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ARCHITECTURE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE PLANNING INTERIOR DESIGN 750 E. Pratt Street Suite 1100 Baltimore MD 21202 410 837 7311 410 837 6530 fax www.hcm2.com Meeting Record Date: 1/3/2012 MNCPPC & MCPS Community Presentation Project: Farquhar Middle School Modernization Project No: 211004 Prepared by: Jim Determan Attendee Organization Phone email M. Samiul Alam Parent 301.774.3905 [email protected] Iman Alameh BGES Parent 301.260.8178 [email protected] Celeste Amadei Parent 301.924.3722 [email protected] Claudette Ardizzone Parent 301.774.0649 [email protected] Susan Athey Parent 301.774.0303 [email protected] Tami BennettAdmi Parent 301.525.6989 [email protected] Bobby Berg GSSGS 301.570.5139 [email protected] Fred Boyd MNCPPC Fred.Boyd@mncppcmc.org Sue Bray Parent 301.774.2668 [email protected] Scott Bredow BGES 301.924.4162 [email protected] Andy Bruckner Parent 301.331.4690 [email protected] Robin Bruckner Parent 301.570.8248 [email protected] Andy Campbell Neighbor [email protected] Lynn Campbell Neighbor [email protected] Karen Castle BGES Parent 301.570.4566 [email protected] Bini Chacko Parent 301.570.3614 Yongwan Cho Brooke Grove ES 301.774.4567 [email protected] Arti Choxi Sherwood ES 301.774.4177 [email protected] Debbie Conner Parent 301.399.1523 Tedd Conner Parent 301.399.1523 Jenni Coopersmith Sherwood ES j[email protected] Jennifer Costello Parent 240.678.8397 j[email protected] Liahona Crompton Parent 240.481.7247 [email protected] Neeta Datt Community Advisor [email protected] Debbie Deosaran Parent 301.570.6592 [email protected] Sharon Deutch Parent 301.570.3714 [email protected] Angela Edwards Parent 301.421.5927 [email protected] Paul Edwards Cloverly Parent 301.421.5927 [email protected] Ramez Fahmy BGES Parent 301.529.1676 [email protected] Ramez Fahmy Parent 301.924.8312 [email protected] Sherifa Fahmy BGES Parent 240.535.4554 [email protected] Sumaya Fahmy Parent 240.593.8169 sumaya[email protected] Barbara Falcigno Resident 301.476.4716 [email protected] Brooke Farquhar MNCPPC 301.650.4388 [email protected] Rebecca Feldbush Parent 301.570.8135

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ARCHITECTURE

LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE

PLANNING

INTERIOR DESIGN

750 E. Pratt Street Suite 1100 Baltimore MD 21202 410 837 7311 410 837 6530 fax www.hcm2.com

Meeting Record   Date: 1/3/2012 MNCPPC & MCPS 

Community Presentation 

Project: Farquhar Middle SchoolModernization 

Project No: 211004 

Prepared by:   Jim Determan 

  Attendee  Organization Phone email

   M. Samiul Alam  Parent 301.774.3905 [email protected] Alameh  BGES Parent 301.260.8178 [email protected] 

Celeste Amadei  Parent 301.924.3722 [email protected] Claudette Ardizzone  Parent 301.774.0649 [email protected] Susan Athey  Parent 301.774.0303 [email protected] Bennett‐Admi  Parent 301.525.6989 [email protected] Bobby Berg  GSSGS 301.570.5139 [email protected] Boyd  M‐NCPPC Fred.Boyd@mncppc‐mc.orgSue Bray  Parent 301.774.2668 [email protected] Scott Bredow  BGES 301.924.4162 [email protected] Andy Bruckner  Parent 301.331.4690 [email protected] Bruckner  Parent 301.570.8248 [email protected] Campbell  Neighbor [email protected] Lynn Campbell  Neighbor [email protected] Karen Castle  BGES Parent 301.570.4566 [email protected] Chacko  Parent 301.570.3614Yongwan Cho  Brooke Grove ES 301.774.4567 [email protected] Arti Choxi  Sherwood  ES 301.774.4177 [email protected] Debbie Conner  Parent 301.399.1523Tedd Conner  Parent 301.399.1523Jenni Coopersmith  Sherwood ES [email protected] Jennifer Costello  Parent 240.678.8397 [email protected] Crompton  Parent 240.481.7247 [email protected] Neeta Datt Community 

Advisor [email protected] 

Debbie Deosaran  Parent 301.570.6592 [email protected] Sharon Deutch  Parent 301.570.3714 [email protected] Angela Edwards  Parent 301.421.5927 [email protected] Paul Edwards  Cloverly Parent 301.421.5927 [email protected] Ramez Fahmy  BGES Parent 301.529.1676 [email protected] Ramez Fahmy  Parent 301.924.8312 [email protected] Fahmy  BGES Parent 240.535.4554 [email protected] Sumaya Fahmy  Parent 240.593.8169 sumaya‐[email protected] Falcigno  Resident 301.476.4716 [email protected] Brooke Farquhar  M‐NCPPC  301.650.4388 [email protected] Feldbush  Parent 301.570.8135

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Robert & Joanne Fishman 

BGES Parents 301.260.2575 [email protected] 

Stephen Fye  BFR Resident 301.774.4688 [email protected] Gatlin  Parent 301.438.6556Shelley Gordon  Brooke Grove 

Parent 301.924.5708 [email protected] 

Valerie Gormley  Parent 301.774.0715 [email protected] Gould  Parent 301.570.1176 [email protected] Michael Greenberg  Parent 202.596.2679 [email protected] Guernsey  BGES GR2‐5 301.260.2099Jennifer Hallmark  Cloverly Parent 301.421.4305 [email protected] Tommy Henry  BGES Parent 301.455.6976 [email protected] Young Hill  FMS Parent 301.774.4722 [email protected] Michelle Hintz  Cloverly Parent 301.421.1704 [email protected] Hintz  Cloverly Parent 301.421.1704 [email protected] Hirsch  Cloverly Parent 301.260.0556 [email protected] Hogan  Neighbor 301.570.2275 [email protected] Bronson Hoover  Parent [email protected] Hyde  Neighbor 301.924.0025Hank Hyde  Neighbor 301.924.2254 [email protected] Tom & Ruth Hyde  Next Door 

Neighbor 301.774.3147 [email protected]

Tom Hyde  Rep. for Stanmore, LLC 

301.440.0907 [email protected] 

Jules Jacobs  MCSCAnn Johnson  Parent 301.421.1340 [email protected] Kahan  BGES  PTA 

President 301.774.2999 [email protected] 

Jeffrey Kahan  Parent 301.774.2999 [email protected] Adrienne Karamihas  MCPS 240.314.1035 [email protected] Keller  Parent 301.774.7630 [email protected] Kimmel  BGES Parent 301.260.7551 [email protected] Klinger  BGES Parent 301.570.1256 [email protected] Krakaur  Stonegate 301.924.0149 michael.krakaur@aggreggate‐us.comGregory Lampshire  Parent 301.570.1042 [email protected] Laura Lampshire  FMS Parent 301.570.1042 [email protected] Jeff Lanning  Hallowell 

Resident 301.774.6976 [email protected] 

Jeff Lin  Parent 301.570.1957Mike Lowden  BGES 

Grandparent 301.556.0202

Mikki Lynch  Parent 301.260.7768 [email protected] Ray Marhamati  MCPS 240.314.1010 [email protected] McKneely  Sherwood 

Elementary 301.260.0181 [email protected]

Claudia S. Mercado  Sherwood Parent 

301.570.5289 [email protected]

Debbie Metrey  Parent 301.570.3917 [email protected] E. Metrey  Resident 301.774.6995 [email protected] Elizabeth Miller  BGES Parent 301.570.4556 [email protected]

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Diane Morris  Principal, FMS 240.484.4995 [email protected] Niverth  FMS Parent 301.570‐0938 [email protected] Stacy Noland  BGES & FMS 301.570.3645 [email protected] Stephanie Noland  BGES 301.570.3645 [email protected] Peter Norris  Parent 301.260.1476 [email protected] Joe Pasternak  Parent 240.425.7303Meg Pease‐Fye  BFR Resident 301.774.4688 [email protected] Penacoza  Sherwood 

Parent 202.312.6448 [email protected]

Sergio Penacoza  Parent 301.570.5289Melissa Pophan  Sherwood PTA 301.573.3310 [email protected] Pulju‐McCudden 

Parent 571.277.3027 [email protected] 

Susan Ramsay  Parent 301.412.1742 [email protected] Robert Rapp  Sherwood 

Parent 301.774.5824 [email protected] 

Barbara Ray  GSSGS [email protected] Suzanne Redman  Parent 301.570.9082 [email protected] Riley  M‐NCPPC  301‐495‐2500 [email protected] Rohrman  FMS Parent 608.217.3242 [email protected] Ronan  Parent 301.651.5409 [email protected] Anne Rood Parent 301.570.3251 [email protected] Jeff Rosen  Parent 301‐570‐9199 [email protected] Leisa Sarecky  Brookeville 

Resident 301.924.0405 [email protected] 

Linda Schenkel  Parent 301.570.2128 [email protected] Schenkel  Parent 301.570.2128 [email protected] Schilling  Parent 301.570.1488Beth Schiavino‐Narvaez 

Community Superintendent 

301‐315‐7364 [email protected]

Muriel Senderling  Parent 301.774.9573Michael Shpur  MCPS [email protected] Shueh  FMS/Cloverly 

Parent 301.384.6360 [email protected] 

Craig Shuman  MCPS [email protected]. Sikri  Sherwood  240.277.2358 [email protected] Andrea Smith  BGES/Farquhar 

Parent 301.774.5724 [email protected] 

Ken Smith    301.774.5724Krag Smith  Parent 301.924.3722 [email protected] James Song  MCPS 240.314.1064 [email protected] & Allison Soussi‐Taneri 

Parents 301.768.3631 [email protected] 

Heather Steffan  Parent 301.922.2056 [email protected] St. Laurent  Parent 301.774.0032 [email protected] Tesavio  Sherwood 

Parent 301.774.8072 [email protected] 

Dennis Twombly  MCC PTA  301.451.3371Virginia Twombly  Cluster 

Coordinator 301.570.0394 [email protected] 

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Arlynn Unger  BGES Parent 301.260.8840 arlynn‐[email protected] Velazquez  Parent 301.774.8269 [email protected] Velazquez  SH Cluster 

Coordinator 301.774.8269 [email protected]

Satya Velivela  Parent 301.260.2807 [email protected] Patricia Via  Parent 301.438.3219 [email protected] Virkus  SSCA‐SSVCA 301.774.7794 [email protected] Kevin Walsh  Parent 301.570.5766 [email protected] Weinberg  Sherwood ES 301.774.6558 [email protected] S. Weske  GSSGS 301.774.7564 [email protected] Michael Whelan  Parent 301.260.0723 [email protected] Willems  AMT [email protected] Wogalter  Parent 301.570.8099 [email protected] Julie Wogalter  Parent 301.570.8099 [email protected] John V. Wylie  Batchellor Forest  

Resident 301.774.2452 [email protected] 

Richard Yallow  MCR‐SGA 301.229.1237Matt Zaborsky  GOCA 301.774.1311 [email protected] John Zamog  Parent 301‐570‐1641 [email protected]    

No  Item    Action by:

1‐1  

Diane Morris, Farquhar Middle Principal, introduced Ms. Beth Schiavino‐Narvaez, Community Superintendent.  Craig Shuman, Director, Division of Construction, MCPS, introduced the staff from Maryland National Capital Park and Planning Commission including, Brooke Farquhar, Supervisor, Park and Trail Planning; Mike Riley, Deputy Director of Parks; Fred Boyd, Parks Department.  Craig introduced the design team including Jim Determan, Architect with Hord Coplan Macht, Inc. and Matt Willems, Civil Engineer with A. Morton Thomas & Assoc.      

  

1‐2  Brooke Farquhar stated the purpose of the presentation is to solicit feedback from the community regarding the MCPS request to swap land in order to modernize Farquhar Middle School, so that Parks staff can take a recommendation to the Planning Board.  

  

  

1‐3  Ms. Farquhar presented the current condition.  The north site is designated to be dedicated to M‐NCPPC by Pulte Homes; there is currently no street access to this site.  The south site is the existing school.  There are two existing access points to Bachellor’s Forest Rd.  

  

1‐4  A view of the Olney Master Plan was presented.  It indicates additional athletic fields are needed.  Sites adjacent to schools are desirable to leverage the synergy between school and park.    

  

1‐5  Jim Determan presented the proposed building and site plan for the north site, produced by the Facilities Advisory Committee during the feasibility study.  The building is three‐stories but is sited into the topography so that two‐stories will be apparent from the street.  The 

  

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site is graded lower in the front to flatten and allow for accessibility to the athletic venues at the rear.  A site section of the current design indicates a 24’ set back of the bus loop from the property line, a landscaped buffer and distance of 122’ +/‐from the Hyde residence to the property line.   The bus loop is shown to be approximately 8’‐6” lower than the grade of the Hyde residence.    

1‐6  Fred Boyd identified Policy Guidance documents.   

  

1‐7   Brooke Farquhar presented relevant issues and site comparison.  There is a shortage of rectangular fields in the area.  Parks Department looks for opportunities for synergy between new parks and schools.  In comparing sites, developable area of the north is approximately 12.27 acres vs. south at 15.0 acres.  The south site can support all the potential uses proposed for the north site plus additional. Brooke listed potential park uses that could be considered and supported on the site. The Parks Department would not decide on an ultimate program for the park until a future, publically informed facility plan is developed. The new park must comply with forest conservation and the Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA).       

  

1‐8  Brooke Farquhar identified the benefits of the land swap.  

There is more land for the park. 

There is shared access and parking. 

Because the athletic fields and parking on the sought site would be salvaged, the public would benefit from an interim park sooner.  If the land swap does not take place, the Parks Department could not create a new park on the north site for 8‐10 years.    

  

1‐9  This presentation is available to be viewed at the following websites.   http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/constrution http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/farquharms   

  

Q‐1  Question: (Troy Kimmel) If the swap is not done, would it be 8‐10 years before the park is designed, or would it be even longer? 

Answer:  (Mike Riley) The Parks Department operates on a 6‐year budget cycle.  There is no funding in the current cycle for the design of this park.  Depending on the community pressure an estimate of 8‐10 years is optimistic.    

 

  

Q‐2  Question: (Barbara Gray) How long before the current building is torn down? 

Answer:  (Mike Riley) The terms of the land swap have not been fully negotiated.  It may be a condition of the swap that MCPS demolishes the building.  The building may not be demolished until the new school is occupied.   (James Song) Funding for the existing school demolition will be included in the construction budget.  If the new school is built on the north site, the construction will be complete in 

  

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August, 2016.  Choosing the north site gives MCPS more flexibility on when the existing building is demolished.  

.  Q‐3  Question: How much will the project cost?

Answer:   (James Song) The construction budget for the new Farquhar Middle School is $35‐$36 million.  This does not include furniture, fixtures and equipment.  It also does not include design or construction on the park site. 

    

  

Q‐4   Question: Was an addition to the existing school considered?Answer:   (James Song) The facilities advisory committee began the 

feasibility study by looking at addition/renovation options at the existing school.  Because of existing conditions the committee evaluated the most cost effective option was a replacement school.  Those conditions included but were not limited to: 

Low floor to floor height ‐ there is inadequate space for an updated HVAC system that is needed to meet the current building code. 

Existing foundation design is inadequate to support adding multiple floors to the existing building. Sprawling laterally consumes too much site.  

The existing building envelope does not meet current energy efficiency requirements and would be expensive to upgrade.    

A Life Cycle cost analysis indicates a new building is a better buy.       

  

Q‐5  Question: Does Batchellor’s Forest Road have a sewer line?Answer: (Craig Shuman) The sanitary connection is at the south corner 

of the south site.  Currently the sanitary line does not extend to the north site.  The school on the north site would require a new sanitary line to run through the south park site and connect to the existing sanitary line.  This could be done as an easement through the park site, which could be done as part of the transfer agreement. 

  

  

Q‐6   Question: Would the existing building be a holding facility once the new Farquhar Middle School is built on the north site?  

Answer: (Craig Shuman) No.    

  

Q‐7   Question: Explain the Storm Water Management design.Answer:  Storm water management is typically designed during a later 

phase.  However, the civil engineer has allowed space for storm water management in the proposed site plan.  

 

  

Q‐8  Question: What happens to the excavated material from flattening the site?  

Answer:  (Matt Willems) The design team has reviewed the grading 

  

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impact of the conceptual design. Lowering the building as the topography drops greatly reduces the amount of excavation.  Retaining walls are proposed to reduce excavation and protect existing forest. These walls are at the site perimeter and visibility is reduced.   Achieving a balance of cut and fill will be a goal.  If there is excess material, it could be used as fill after the existing school is demolished.    

 Q‐9  Question: If the swap doesn’t occur how long will the modernization 

project take?  Answer:  (James Song) 24 months for design and permit.  24 months for 

construction.   

  

Q‐10  Question: Did the budget delay the project one year?Answer:  Yes.  The design will be done in (fiscal year) FY13 and FY14.  

This means design starts in mid‐2012.  MCPS currently has only a portion of the design funds available.  Construction funds are not obtained until FY15 at the earliest.  They could be delayed further.  Current Board of Education budget indicates construction completion and school occupancy in August, 2016.  

 

  

Q‐11  Question: Does M‐NCPPC own the north lot yet?Answer:  (Mike Riley) No, but we expect to receive it in a matter of 

months.   

  

Q‐12  Question: Has anyone done soil borings of the north site yet? The developer did not want to build on this site and it may have to do with soil condition. 

Answer:  No.    

  

Q‐13   Q‐14 

Question: How do you connect the sewer from the north site?Answer:  See item 2‐14.  Question: How do we know the housing developer could not build 

because of soil conditions? Answer:  (Resident) was involved with the developer’s process. 

(Craig Shuman)  Typically a developer does not build on a site if there is a sanitary perk issue.  This does not inform us about the soil’s bearing capacity. (James Song)  MCPS has not done borings on the north site, but we have done borings on the south site and the soil condition obviously supports a building, paving, fields, etc.  We do not anticipate great difference in soil condition.  If permission is granted from the current owner MCPS can do borings soon. (Resident) Historically the site has been soft and cows would sink in the soft soil during the spring.   

 

  

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Q‐15  Question: (Neighbor) One reason for the land swap was to avoid a bus drive to Tilden Holding School.  Parents would accept a 30 min bus ride.  Is there a holding school within 30 minutes of this area? 

Answer:  (James Song) Broom will not be available.  MCPS looked at many, many holding school options and there are none available. The consideration leading to the land swap solution is partly about the long bus drive to Tilden, but MCPS also considered the transportation cost for the 2‐year construction duration.   

 

  

Q‐16  Question: Why did MCPS originally say it would take 3 years for the design and construction and now they say 4 years? 

Answer:  (James Song) Before the 1‐year delay the design/permit process would be truncated to meet the Board of Education schedule.  Now there is a delay and the design/permit phases can proceed normally. 

 

  

Q‐17  Question: Resident is concerned the existing building will not come down. 

Answer:  (James Song) The money for construction is not budgeted now, but when it is budgeted the funds for demolition will be included. 

 

  

Q‐18  Statement: There are so many benefits of a land swap.  More ball fields sooner will benefit all.  More people attracted by these amenities will come and that is a benefit for our community.  There will be a school either on the north or the south.  It is the ICC opening that has generated more cut through traffic.  Thanks to MNCPPC and MCPS for working on the swap.  (Applause) 

 

  

Q‐19  Question: We can only build a 3‐story on the north.   There is no reason to believe we can build a 2‐story on the south.  If we build a 3‐story on the south site it might be worse.  

Answer:  (Jim Determan) The size of site is not the sole governing factor in determining the number of stories.  Sustainable design requirements direct us to reduce impervious surface.  The incentives to build 3‐stories exist on both sites.  More than likely the solution on either site would be a 3‐story building working with the topography and appearing as a 2‐story from the street.  

 

  

Q‐20  Question: Will the video‐recording of this session be made available to attendees?  

Answer:  (Craig Shuman) The video recording is by a private citizen and will not be on the MCPS website.  

 

  

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Q‐21  Question: Please design this building to feel rural and rustic. Answer:  (Jim Determan) The design will be a good fit in the 

community.  

  

Q‐22  Question:  (Parent) The neighbor was asked how many children he has in school, and responded, “None”.  “Don’t assume a 35 minute bus ride is acceptable to parents”.  Research done on negative impact of bus rides on students determined longer bus rides produced more EMT visits to buses.  Thanks to MCPS for considering the alternative.  

 

  

Q‐23  Statement:  (Parent) The benefit of not bussing children is of most value.  

  

Q‐24  Statement: (Parent) There has been a lot of change that has come and more changes are coming to Batchellor’s Forest Road.  There are a lot more houses and a lot more traffic.  There is currently a school and there will be a park.  Regardless of what site they are on, that will not change.  There is already a 3‐story building on Batchellor’s Forest Road, Good Counsel High School. Developers are the ones changing the neighborhood, not MCPS or MNCCPC.   

 

  

Q‐25  Statement: (Neighbor) It is clear parents have moved from a position of acceptable 30 minute bus ride to no bus ride.  Broom High School would have been acceptable in May.  There is concern that the proposed 3‐story building is going to be higher than the existing 2‐story. We want the old school building totally gone. 

 

  

Q‐26  Statement:  (Parent) I understand there will be a 3‐story building with one story below street level, regardless  of north or south site.  We understand MCPS will tear down the old school.  We appreciate both agencies looking into this.  We don’t have enough ball fields now.   

  

Q‐27  Statement: (Parent) We appreciate MCPS listening to parents.  I am very concerned with long bus rides with Middle School students on the bus.  The FMS boundary goes all the way to Sunshine and that would be an unacceptable ride for students.  I went to FMS and it is an awesome school.  The huge houses built south of the school have destroyed the rural rustic neighborhood.    

 

  

Q‐28  Statement: (Parent) Key Middle School had a 35 minute ride to Tilden with 6th, 7th and 8th graders on the same bus and was a big challenge.  Good Counsel High School is a large eyesore.        

 

  

Q‐29  Question: Will Old Vic Blvd. still terminate at the existing school entrance?  

Answer:   If the school is built on the north site, the existing school 

  

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entrance where Old Vic terminates will remain.  MCPS proposes to close the second existing school entrance but provide a new entrance on the new school site.  There will be no net change in the number of entrance on Batchellor’s Forest Road.  Parent traffic will use Old Vic and enter at the park site.  Buses will use the north entrance.  Separate entrances are safer for students.  

 Q‐30  Question: M‐NCPPC asked for a show of hands for those in favor of the 

land transfer.  Answer:   Majority of the attendees are in favor of the land transfer.  

Eleven attendees opposed.  

  

 

These meeting notes were prepared by Hord Coplan Macht, Inc for the purpose of recording the information covered during this meeting.  Should anyone object to any statement or interpretation contained herein, please inform Hord Coplan Macht, Inc. within seven days or the meeting notes shall stand as written. 

Submitted by,  HORD COPLAN MACHT, Inc. 

  Jim Determan, AIA, Principal 

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M-NCPPC, Department of Parks, Montgomery County, MD

Park Planning & Stewardship Division

PARK PLANNING & STEWARDSHIP

PARK & TRAIL PLANNING SECTION

Potential Land Transfer between Local Park Site and

Farquhar Middle School

and Montgomery County Public Schools

January 3, 2012

http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/construction http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/farquharms

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Purpose of Meeting

To hear the community’s thoughts on the proposed land transfer.

Agenda

Introductions by MCPS Staff

Request from Montgomery County Public Schools (MCPS) to MNCPPC, Department of Parks

Process and Timeline

Potential School Layout on North Site

Parks Staff Analysis of Site Suitability

Potential Uses for Interim Park on South Site

Questions, Comments from Audience

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Land Transfer Request Evaluation Process

MCPS asked Parks Staff to consider a transfer between the existing school site and the site to the north.

Parks Staff prepared preliminary Program of Requirements (PPOR) for the park site

we currently expect to acquire.

Parks Staff Provided PPOR to MCPS and asked they show how the PPOR can be met on the existing school site.

January 3, 2012 MCPS and Parks host a community meeting to present

the analysis related to the requested land transfer.

Parks Staff presents a recommendation to the Planning Board regarding the land transfer and Mandatory Referral.

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Site Context

Olney Master Plan Existing and Proposed Parks

Farquhar MS and Adjacent Site

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Site Context

Constraints

Surrounding Uses

Access

Conservation lot Future Single Family Development

Future Single Family Development

SOUTH SITE Existing School Site

NORTH SITE Park Site to be Dedicated by

Developer

Existing Access

Existing Access

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Park Site Context

Forest Conservation Plan (FCP) for the Batchellors Forest Site Plan, including north site

SOUTH SITE

NORTH SITE

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Policy Guidance

Community Planning Topics

Olney Master Plan (MNCPPC, April 2005)

Three additional ballfields are needed in the area (p. 28).

Designate 17.2 – acre portion of the Casey Property as rural open space under the RNC Zone and acquire it through dedication for a local park for active recreation purposes at the time of subdivision (p. 28). Acquire the open field site adjacent to Farquhar Middle School for a new local park (p. 119).

Appropriate for ballfields and possible other active recreation since it is clear with no significant environmental features (p. 28).

Can share its ballfields and parking area with adjoining middle school site (p. 28).

Coordinate access to the 17.2 acre portion through the middle school site to reduce impact on Bachelors' Forest Road (p. 28). Access to the ballfields should be from the Old Vic Boulevard extended and through the middle school property (p. 28).

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Potential School Layout on North Site

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Potential School Layout on North Site

Cross Section View

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Policy Guidance

Park Topics

Vision 2030 Strategic Plan (MNCPPC, June 2011)

2005 Park Recreation and Open Space (PROS) Plan Land / Preservation and Open Space Plan (LPPRP)(MNCPPC, 2005)

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Potential Users

Existing residents

New residents of new single family developments

Middle school students – students ages 11-15

Middle school faculty and teachers

Athletic teams

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Site Comparison

Potential Park Components Athletic Field(s) for Soccer, Football, Cricket,

Lacrosse Skate Spot Playground Picnic Shelter Community Garden Hard Surfaced Loop Trail Natural Surface Trails Gatherings Space Conservation Areas Comfort and Convenience Features:(drinking

Fountain, Signage, Bike Racks, Benches, Portable Restrooms)

Parking Storm Water Management Facilities FCP, ESD and ADA Compliant

Conservation lot Future Single Family Development

Future Single Family Development

SOUTH SITE Existing School Site

NORTH SITE Park Site to be Dedicated

by Developer

Existing Access

Existing Access

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Benefits of Transfer

Both options accommodate the PPOR

Both options assume some shared parking and access

A swap with the existing school site would have the following benefits over a park on the north site:

There are 2 or more additional developable acres which would accommodate more park facilities

A park would be available to the public several years sooner, first in an interim condition, and subsequently as a fully developed local park.

Conservation lot Future Single Family Development

Future Single Family Development

SOUTH SITE Existing School Site

NORTH SITE Park Site to be Dedicated

by Developer

Existing Access

Existing Access

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Public Input

Questions?

Comments?

Conservation lot Future Single Family Development

Future Single Family Development

SOUTH SITE Existing School Site

NORTH SITE Park Site to be Dedicated

by Developer

Existing Access

Existing Access

http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/construction http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/farquharms

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Additional Background Slides

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Parking for Outdoor Facilities

Total Spaces*

Needed:161

Park: 73

School: 88

Provided: 243

Park: 73

School: 120 overflow

Bus Bays: 50

* does not include indoor facility needs for non-school-day hours

Parking for Outdoor Facilities

PARK PPOR

SCHOOL PPOR

TOTAL NEEDED

Athletic Fields 60 60 120

Skate Spot 0 - 0 Community Garden 5 - 5

4 Tennis Courts - 8 8 3 Basketball Courts - 20 20

Playground 2 - 2

Picnic Area 4 - 4

Trail 2 - 2

Small Local Outdoor Gathering Space

0 0 0

73 88 161

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Cricket Field

POR includes a large graded flat area that accommodates either a minimum sized cricket field (360’ x 450’) or an adult rectangular field

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Outdoor Classrooms

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Existing School Program

School Building

Athletic Fields

2 Rectangular

1 Softball Overlay

4 Tennis Courts

3 Full-sized Basketball Courts

4,000 S.F. Paved Play Area

109 Parking Spaces

Restrooms (Indoor)

SOUTH SITE

NORTH SITE

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Meadows

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Picnic Shelters

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Skate Spot Models

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Current School Field Use

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