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Gunmen patrol during clashes with Iraqi security forces in Fallujah, 40 miles (65 kilometers) west of Baghdad, Iraq on January 5.

Washington (CNN)-- The recent fighting in Iraq has posed a seriouschallenge to Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and his government, raisingquestions about his ability to hold the country together amid a risinginsurgency.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said Sunday that the UnitedStates will help the Iraqi government in the battle against al Qaeda-linked fighters in western Iraq, but he stressed it won't send troops.

Here are five questions about the deteriorating situation:

1. I thought the Iraq war was over. Why is there still fighting?

Well, actually last year was the deadliest since 2008. The number ofdead reached its worst levels since the height of the Iraq war, whensectarian fighting between the country's Shiite majority and its Sunniminority pushed it to the brink of civil war. Those tensions continue tobe fueled by widespread discontent among the Sunnis, who say theyare marginalized by the Shiite-led government and unfairly targetedby heavy-handed security tactics.

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Last year was the deadliest yearin Iraq since 2008

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Anbar province shares a 400-mile border with Syria andbecause of the power vacuum there, ISIS fighters moveback and forth between the countries and mount attackson both sides of the border. But with recent setbacks inSyria, ISIS has increased its attention to Iraq.

5. I heard these ISIS guys are in Lebanon, too? Thisregion is a mess.

There are signs ISIS may have its sights on Lebanon as well. Thegroup said it carried out a suicide bombing on Thursday in aHezbollah-controlled southern suburb of Beirut. And it warned aboutmore attacksagainst Hezbollah if it continued to send fighters toSyria to defend Syrian President Bashar al-Assad against the rebels.

Weak governments in Iraq, Syria and Lebanon have helped al Qaedagain strength, and now Kerry calls ISIS "the most dangerous playersin the region."

Iraq, Syria and Lebanon are all seen by many experts as proxy warsbetween Shiite Iran and Saudi Arabia, a Sunni nation. A full-blowncivil war in Iraq, in addition to Syria, could further increase sectariantensions and destabilize the region.

Still out there and growing -- al Qaeda on the rebound

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David Dougherty

If you look at the middle east today the majority of the states are in turmoil. It is

obvious that American military intervention has not only failed to create a stable

Iraq but has also caused instability in the region. The fault lies with the politicalleadership in both parties who have made the mistake of using military force as

our primary tool in regards to foreign policy. It is ironic that one of the most stable

countries, Iran is the one we seem the most intent on plunging into war.

intruder1400

They should have left Saddam Hussein in there, it would be a normal

country still, well their normal anyway.

MNLFoodcritic

This is what is annoying: The US invades Iraq, turns it upside down

to almost total chaos with various warring factions and has the gall

to question the Iraqi PM's ability to keep the country together.

Kris

Sad fact was that Iraq was in better hands with Hussein and

it should of been the Iraqi people alone who made the

decision to rise up and overthrow him.

Riks

This is a Sunni v.s. Shia war, Muslims will not stop killing

each other (and non muslim), Peace in Islam is fight untilthere is only 1 type of Islam in this world.. and the whole

world under SHARIA..

ISLAM + MUSLIM = WMD!

Islam can make your very cute young neighbour kill u for

the reason that u think NEVER exist.. and can blow

themselves in ANY places... and the best is there are 1.5

billion of them!!

Check this out, this is REAL and still LEGAL until TODAY in

ALL Islamic Apartheid Sharia Country (SAUDI, PAKISTAN,

AFGHAN, etc)..

Islamic shariah is the REAL threat for Human Rights!..

In ALL (dozen of countries with hundreds of millions of

45 S&W

Their style of organised killing as opposed to total chaos killing.

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scott

Not really god knows how many people died thanks to him. Also

add the deaths from the wars he started and there own troops

deaths, then all the people being murdered and tortured.

They need a strategy and a plan to take over this area, then a plan

to hold it & stop weapons getting back in once they clear it.

To do it right they need to go in from many different ways "5". 3 of

them are fakes that will see troops move in a small bit, then hold

there ground "making them think there holding them back" There

for they will send backups to there "3 fake attack areas", thinking

they will push them back with more men, freeing up other areas of

the real assault to come.

I would say at first attack them and leave all phone towers on &

don't use jammers yet, so they send extra men to them areas "they

think they are holding them off". Once the real groups of troops

starts to moves in, after the fake assault "Cut everything off at

once".

The enemy will be in 85% of the area they are first getting attacked

"ploy assaults" & will not be able to talk when the other 2 massive

assaults take place.. Even if they can they will be in disarray 100%.

Yossirian

"Not really god knows how many people died thanks to

him."

Sure, we dont know.

But we do know how many people died since the US

decided to get rid of those wmds in iraq and evil al qaeda.

Between 250.000 and 750.000 people depending on

source. I doubt Hussein would have been that busy.

Iraq study estimates war-related deaths at 461,000.

scott

Source 250k to 750?? lmao yeah adds up. Massive gap

there that tells me "Sure "we dont know".

Lets just say how many died from the Iran war?

They should of started that war to remove him, but they

should of had strategist in place ready to go.

Yossirian

Just google, you know i cant link sources here.... There are

even some figures above 1 million deaths since 2003.

Iran war figures are somewhere around 200-350k.

But why compare it?
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sco

You can put a link. just put spaces in it and say "put it

together" like this. But add h t t p : / / w w w.

you tu be . com / watch ?v = G C Q Q D w Q o 2 x I

scott

"But why compare it"

I don't it would not of been that bad if they had a

strategist's in place.

I remember hearing how 1,600 people dled from 1 car

bomb attack in the markets. That was 1 car bomb times 10

a day killing mass people.

How hard is it to put check points around the markets, or

around a area with big groups of people?

How hard is it to put check points and road blocks

"stopping car getting near all them people near the

markets"?. At a check point only 2 to 7 people can be

killed, not 1,600. That seen a instant 95% drop of civiliansdeaths instantly.

Anyone like him should be taken out, but it was all done

wrong with not 1 strategy put in place.

It took 1 guy to give them over 50 strategy's, that forced the

Sunnis to change sides, and seen not even 1 U.S troop

killed "each week" most weeks in the end of that war.

If things got done from the start, F all deaths would of

followed.

iontech

"Strategy to take over the area". You don't take over a

country. The us has never been any good in nation building

after "taking over" a foreign country. Intruder1400 is right,

should leave that country alone - Sadam was dead set

against them Al Qaeda and they were under tight control in

Iraq. Now have a part of the country? And remember the us

was the one which helped Al Qaeda in the 80's? What a big

mistake. Now it is coming back to haunt us big time, started

with 911.

scott 911? Odd because last i herd the CIA & FBI new about it

"but some how" it just slipped there minds and something

happened in "BOTH DEPARTMENTS" at the same time, to

make them slip up and forget "SOME HOW".

really?????

scott

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Graham the Cracker

Solution: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert

them to Christianity." - Ann Coulter

Harry Seaward

In the big picture, the one based on reality, it might be the right

move. Of course you see the world as you want it to be.

Kim

What do you mean? the head of snake is in Tehran that support both Shia

dictator of Syria and Iraq and making bomb to establish its empire.

Brian Munch

the head of the snake is in Washington!

Rabbi_Tastes_Baby_Penis

... and the tail is in Tel Aviv

suddam

And e snake shi t hole is e whole of middle east,

Mike

al malik implements Iranian policy to establish its empire ,, usa should not

support him before survey the situation on ground because al maliki uses

the phobia of terrorism to kill his politic opponents ! please usa has no

interest to be bias to al maliki who is the chief of islamic daawa party

another face of terrorism

They call me Joe

Yeah you're right. We should have left Saddam invading other countries,

you know like Kuwaiti. You all act like it's America's fault for the killing that

goes on a daily basis in the Middle East, but nothing about the Sunni's

against the Shiites. Whether we got involved or not, these folks were

going to go at it regardless. They just got tired of the same Allah excuses

that it was a blessing (for them) that they can blame someone else for a

change. You'd think that after thousands of years that these to groups

would finally agree to peace. But noooooooooooooooooo not happening.

Stop blaming the US for the mass killing that these people do to each

other anyways.

suddam

Thats typical of muslims, they will go on twitter, fb, u tube begging

e west for help. When e west does help and they cant control their

own blood thirsty islamic brethen, they will turn around and blame

e west... as iraqis and libyans r now doing. I am glad e west has

left bashar alone... let e muslims learn. Let not help, people who

will stab u , once yr back is turned. E west helped obl liberate

afghanistan from e russians and he paid back with 9/11. The u.s
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s ou ave gnore ya ... u s oo a e now

TimeMoneyWorld

"the mistake of using military force as our primary tool in regards to

foreign policy"?

Use of military force except in defense, and certainly as a "tool of foreign

policy", is a crime of war of aggression. The German Leaders were put on

trial for such "foreign policy" (World War II) in 1945.

45 S&W

Iran is so head strong, that is why it appears ready to plunge...

PerishableNews

Well, thank the U.S. -- al-Qaeda is a by-product of U.S. foreign policy of the

1970s and '80s.

See: How Jimmy Carter and I Started the Mujahideen(later to become al-

Qaeda) by former National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski.

http://www.counterpunch.Org/1998/01/15/how-jimmy-carter-and-i-started-the-mujahideen/

Tom Thompson

The policy of "My enemy's enemy is my best friend"

kaansker

Supporting rebels in Syria was a terrible decision by the Obama

administration, even worse was when it started back in Libya. Eventually

al qaeda and other hard liner extremists filled in the power gap when the

dictators in these countries started losing power.

The arab spring was the perfect occasion to recruit new members to al

qaeda. Now the al qaeda leaders could easily call the fresh recruits to

jihad as they had a new purpose to fight; getting rid of dictators to open

the way for democracy (the latter being obviously a lie to implement an

authoritarian and theocratic regime).

The Obama admin never saw it coming. Pulling troops out of Iraq was at

the same time Obama's campaign goal for re-election; without taking into

account the fragility and instability inside the whole ME by supporting

rebels, removing secular dictators by force (bombing Lybia, civil war in

Syria) and paving the way for al qaeda and splinter groups to pour in.

The whole ME has become a total mess. Kurds want their own nation,while fighting against Assad (shia) and ISIL (islamic state of iraq and

levant, sunni). Meanwhile Assad is fighting against ISIL, Iran is supporting

Assad, Iraq is fighting ISIL and is at odds with Iran and its Kurdish

minority. Saudi Arabia and other gulf monarchies are supporting ISIL and

al qaeda. Saudi Arabia supported the military regime to topple Morsi in

Egypt but Morsi (the muslim brotherhood) were against Assad and were

also against Saudi/gulf monarchism (wahabbi salafism) while trying to

improve relations with Iran.
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you:)

Ali

Kuwait was not burned to the ground, the army was

welcomed, if you dont know the facts. Halabja was proven

to be not a Iraqi attack, thats why they never charged him

with it in that fake courtroom, because people knew the

truth, you're still a little behind brother.

Mike

They killed SADDAM HUSSEIN because of Mliki party request that is

under control of Iran.

fuzzball

Bush went after Saddam because his continued rule embarrassed

his father, that is the only reason we went in. 5,000 American

deaths, hundreds of thousand wounded, a trillion dollars to "get"

even. Bush wanted to attack Iraq from the first month of his

administration, long before 9/11. Within a year everyone new it was

a phoney war and would end up just like it is now.

TimeMoneyWorld

"Bush went after Saddam because his continued rule

embarrassed his father"?

G.W. Bush, as President, did NOTHING of his own will.

He did what he was told by those around him, and all his

speeches were written for him.

Whenever he did say anything of his own, it was a "gaff"

that made people laugh, like "... civilized countries do not

invade other countries ...".He would have made such a good comedian, it was a

waste of talent to take on a President's job.

scott

Mind you if they put mass Intel in place from the start $, it

never would of got so bad.

Also in the end 20089/2010 there was not even 1 U.S

troops death a week "most weeks".

Its up to Iraq now and making U.S troops pull out was there

biggest mistake.

Before America left "after the strategy's changes it all".

They has Good Intel put in place, and in the last 2 years the

Intel was crushing AL-Q. Troops were not even going after

them in city's, because there was F all left. If you remember

they were going to villages and chasing them away.

scott

I believe that was a main reason & the sole reason why :"2".
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Illilll

Invading Iraq was never necessary. The military industrial complex has played all

of our troops for fools ...

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