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CALICE meeting Prague 2007, Hervé MATHEZ 1 DHCAL PCB STUDY for RPC and MicroMegas (Electronics recent developments for the European DHCAL) William TROMEUR, Hervé MATHEZ, Renaud GAGLIONE, Imad LAKTINEH, Christophe COMBARET, Rodolphe DELLA-NEGRA (CNRS IN2P3 IPNL) Collaboration with LLR and LAL

CALICE meeting Prague 2007, Hervé MATHEZ 1 DHCAL PCB STUDY for RPC and MicroMegas (Electronics recent developments for the European DHCAL) William TROMEUR,

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CALICE meeting Prague 2007, Hervé MATHEZ 1

DHCAL PCB STUDY

forRPC and MicroMegas

(Electronics recent developments for the European DHCAL)

William TROMEUR, Hervé MATHEZ, Renaud GAGLIONE, Imad LAKTINEH, Christophe COMBARET, Rodolphe DELLA-NEGRA

(CNRS IN2P3 IPNL)

Collaboration with LLR and LAL

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CALICE meeting Prague 2007, Hervé MATHEZ 2

Design RPC PCB front end board prototype 4x64 1 sq cm pads4 Hardroc Asics chained1 FPGA to concentrate and send data using USB

4 areas of 64 pads of 1 sq cm : bottom layerHardroc external components : top layer

FPGA

LAYOUT DESIGN

40 cm

10 cm

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6 areas of 64 pads of 1 sq cm : bottom layerHardroc external components : top layer

FPGA FPGA

LAYOUT DESIGN

1 m

If only one FPGA, PCB connexion ?Others solutions can evaluated : 1 pcb for 1 Asic (see Christophe's talk)

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CALICE meeting Prague 2007, Hervé MATHEZ 4

Cross-talk in PCB

FR4e=100µm

130µme=35µml=1cm w=200µm

Cou

pl in

g c

ap

aci

t or

Coupling capacitor

l=1cm

Cross-talk depends on coupling capacitor valuesEr (FR4)=4.5 C=800fF/cm abacus gives 1 pF/cm for 2 path face to faceC is less than 1pF/cm in all other cases Er (glue between 2 level of PCB)=4.5 C=100fF/cm first approximationBut the real calculation is more complicated (with abacus C = 500fF/cm)Cross-talk increase as C increase and depends on PCB achitecture

C=Er*E0*S/e

gnd

w d

h

h=100µm,w=200µm,d=330µm

C = 150 fF/cm

gnd

gndh

d

wh=50µm,w=200µm,d=330µm

C = 50 fF/cm

130µm

Best way to reduce Xtalk

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Prototype Design :PCB 8 layers for 2 blocks of 64 padsPCB 7 layers for 2 blocks of 64 pads (if we reduce Asics external components we can probably use 6 layers)PCB 8 layers with 2 GND layers added : not possible for this design

LAYOUT DESIGN

Prototype Design :PCB extra thin ( 0.8 mm in 8 layers and 0.6 mm in 6 layers )Special PCB with blind and buried vias

Bottom layer is free to accept RPC pads without constraints and vias

Passive Component extra flat ( 0.3mm max except Hardroc in cqfp package )Total thickness 1.1mm

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Layout in 8 layers (solution1)

Blind via Buried viaThrough via

TOPGND

DIGITAL SIGNALPOWER

ANALOG SIGNAL

ANALOG SIGNAL

GNDBOTTOM

TOP LAYER : Component layerGND : Ground layer and access to internal layersDIGITAL SIGNAL : Layer to interconnect hardroc and FPGAPOWER : Power to hardrocANALOG SIGNAL : Layer to interconnect pad signalsBOTTOM : RPC pads layer

Layer definition ( except FPGA area )

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Analog input and Pads (8 layers)

Pads

Track between pads and hardroc Input

Track between pads and hardroc Input

We have to paid attention to this routing points

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Layout in 6 layers (solution2)

TOP LAYER : Component layer+interconnect between hardroc and FPGAGND : Ground layer and access to internal layersPOWER : Power to hardrocANALOG SIGNAL : Layer to interconnect pad signalsBOTTOM : RPC pads layer

Layer definition ( except FPGA area )

Blind via Buried viaThrough via

TOPGND

POWERANALOG SIGNAL

GNDBOTTOM

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CALICE meeting Prague 2007, Hervé MATHEZ 9

Analog input and Pads (7 layers)

(Same picture as before, just to illustrate)All tracks are on the same layer Pads

We have to paid attention to this routing points

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CALICE meeting Prague 2007, Hervé MATHEZ 10

Board with components

4 hardroc

FPGA

DAQ connector

6 layers design 8 layers design

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CALICE meeting Prague 2007, Hervé MATHEZ 11

Setup Xtalk measurement

1 8 9 16 2417 25 32

From Square waveGenerator

To scope

10 µm probe

Shield connection

Injection Pad

Measurement Pad

6 layers design 8 layers design

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Blind via Buried viaThrough via

TOPGND

POWERANALOG SIGNAL

GNDBOTTOM

Layout in 6 layers (2 parallels paths on 1 layer)

POWERGND

TO FAB

gnd

gndh

d

wh=50µm,w=200µm,d=330µm

C = 50 fF/cm

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PCB 6 Layers : 2 parallels paths Hardroc Pin 2-3 (50 Ohms to GND) Pad 6-8Input on Rpc Pad = 1VMeasure = 3.5 mV Xtalk = 0.35%

Input

Measure

Average of Measure

Layout in 6 layers (2 parallels paths on 1 layer)

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Layout in 8 layers (2 parallels paths on the same layer)

Blind via Buried viaThrough via

TOPGND

DIGITAL SIGNALPOWER

ANALOG SIGNAL

ANALOG SIGNAL

GNDBOTTOM

POWER

GND

TO FAB

gnd

gndh

d

wh=200µm ,w=200µm,d=330µm

C = 120fF/cm

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PCB 8 Layers : 2 parallels paths on the same layerHardroc Pin 2-3 (50 Ohms to GND) Pad 22-24Input on Rpc Pad = 1VMeasure = 4 mV Xtalk = 0.4%

Input

Measure

Average of Measure

Layout in 8 layers (2 parallels paths on the same layer)

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Layout in 8 layers (2 face to face paths on 2 layers)(Not on the total lenght)

Blind via Buried viaThrough via

TOPGND

DIGITAL SIGNALPOWER

ANALOG SIGNAL

ANALOG SIGNAL

GNDBOTTOM

POWER

GND

TO FAB

gnd

gnd

h

h=100µm,w=200µm

w

h

w

Tracks between 2 gnd Layer

Convoluted With

120fF/cm < C < 1 pF/cm

C = 1 pF/cm

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Xtalk = 0.15%

Input

Measure

Average of Measure

Layout in 8 layers (2 face to face paths on 2 layers)(Not on the total lenght)

PCB 8 Layers : 2 face to face paths (2 layers) Hardroc Pin 2-7 (50 Ohms to GND) 29-32Input on Rpc Pad = 1VMeasure = 1.5 mV

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6 layers 8 layers same layer 2 diff layers

Coupling Cap 50 fF/cm 120 fF/cm 120fF/cm to 1pF/cm

Xtalk 0.3 % 0.4% 0.3%

Xtalk summary

gnd

gndh

d

wh=50µm,w=200µm,d=330µm

C = 50 fF/cm

gnd

gndh

d

wh=200µm ,w=200µm,d=330µm

C = 120fF/cm

gnd

gnd

h

h=100µm,w=200µm

w

Measurements results depends on shield connectionDifficult to conclude what configuration is the bestXtalk < 0.5%

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PCB status• 6 boards manufactured• 3 boards with there components• 1 of this 3 boards is use to debug hardware and firmware• 3 boards without components

Conclusion

Xtalk measurement• PCB Xtalk difficult to mesaure but less than 0.5%• Major part of Xtalk will be in the ASIC Chip• We can probalably use a 6 layers design