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DISCUSSION PATTERNS ONLINE Lenny Shedletsky TEACHER AND TA INFLUENCE ON UNDERGRADUATE DISCUSSION

DISCUSSION PATTERNS ONLINE Lenny Shedletsky

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DISCUSSION PATTERNS ONLINE Lenny Shedletsky. TEACHER AND TA INFLUENCE ON UNDERGRADUATE DISCUSSION. TEACHER (or TA) INVOLVED What do you notice for a pattern?. TA. teacher. WITH TEACHER (or TA) INVOLVED . Students respond to the teacher (or TA); The teacher (or TA) responds to the student; - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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Page 1: DISCUSSION PATTERNS ONLINE Lenny  Shedletsky

DISCUSSION PATTERNSONLINE

Lenny Shedletsky

TEACHER AND TA INFLUENCE ON UNDERGRADUATE DISCUSSION

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TEACHER (or TA) INVOLVEDWhat do you notice for a pattern?

teacher

TA

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WITH TEACHER (or TA) INVOLVED

• Students respond to the teacher (or TA);• The teacher (or TA) responds to the student;• The students rarely respond to one another;• Look again--

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WITHOUT TEACHER INVOLVEMENTWhat do you notice for a pattern?

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HERE IS WHAT I NOTICE

• Without teacher involvement in the discussion, students either post and flee—i.e., no interaction, or:

• They occasionally respond to one another;• Look again at an example of post and flee;• Look at students responding to one another;• Look at students post but do not respond to e

ach other—where there is 2 posts, it is the teacher responding;

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STUDENTS POST IN PARALLEL—they each post and flee

Every post with more than 1 total post is the teacher responding

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    Another unsuccessful silence exercise...Amanda Munroe5/23/08 9:59 PM

      Most Unfortunate GroupthinkKevin Benjamin6/10/08 3:13 PM                   RE:Most Unfortunate Groupthink Leonard Shedletsky6/11/08 8                                  RE: Most   Unfortunate GroupthinkKevin Benjamin      6/12/08 5:03 PM

POST and FLEETEACHER RESPONDS TO STUDENT & STUDENT RESPONDS TO TEACHER

HERE ARE 2 PATTERNS THAT TEACHERS COMPLAIN ABOUT

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WITHOUT THE TEACHER (or TA)

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SO WHAT IS A TEACHER TO DO?• I suppose if you wish to have a Socratic dialogue, engage the individual;

• If you wish to have students engage one another, stay out of it;

• When do students engage one another?– An educated hunch is:

• When they are moved by topics that matter to them;• When they need one another to complete an

assignment;• When they are not following the rule, “I must respond

to the person with more power and status.”