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    VETS IN CRISIS HOTLIN1.800.273.82

    John Katherma309.799.79

    [email protected] President-Terry Lyn

    [email protected] Roma

    [email protected] Kram

    [email protected]

    Membership - Larry Tschapp309.788.27

    [email protected] Srv Ofrs (VS

    Al Btch Hber-VS309.721.14

    Steve Lowther-VS309.737.29

    VVA Naonal Of800.882.13

    VA Otpatient Clinic Bettendo563.332.85

    VA Med Cent IA C319.338.0581 & 800.346.184

    IL Dept of Veterans AffaVSO Dan Bebb

    309.793.14RI Cty Vet Ast & VS

    Todd Harlo309.558.354

    VET Cent - Fred Wyemo309.762.69

    IL Vet Employ ReKen Lilly & John To

    309.764.87IA Vet Affairs & VSDavid Woo

    563.326.87Honor Gard Co-Captai

    Dennis Laird - Fnera309.278.34

    Andy Anderson - ParadC: 563.940.59

    C. Norris & J. KeIA Workforce Vet Rep

    563.445.320

    CHAPTER 29

    ATTENTION CHAPTER MEMBERS!!!

    Your attendance is requestedat our next scheduled Chaptermeeting on Tuesday, 19February, 1900 hours at the RIArsenal Cafeteria. Although thisis a regularly scheduled meeting,it is essential that we get amembership quorum (15%) toattend. Our membership standsat 375 and 15% puts the numberneeded at 56.

    The reason that we need aquorum is there is an importantChapter motion that will bebrought to the floor and theamount of money needed to

    fund it will exceed the normalspending cap. A quorumis needed to approve (ordisapprove) the allocation offunds.

    Chapter member and master hogroaster builder Dan Carothershas spent numerous hours inresearching and locating a trailerto haul all the accoutrementsneeded in putting on a Chapter

    hog roast. Further, Dan hasdesigned a highly efficientinterior system to organize andcodify the tools of the trade.As you are no doubt aware, thehog roast program has turnedinto quite a cash cow for theChapter and with our interestin supporting the WoundedWarrior Project and the QCA

    Honor Flight program, we needto be completely organized andbe ready to roast a hog at amoments notice!

    The 15% quorum needed toexceed our Chapters two tieredspending cap ($400 Boardapproval/$800 non-quorummembership approval) wasput into place to protect ourChapters assets. Any Chapterspecial event, expenditure orproject that needs fundingbeyond the cap must bepresented to a membershipquorum for approval.

    We need the hog roasterprogram up and running by earlyspring. To restate, the trailer isneeded for efficiency and willsimplify, organize and protectitems needed for our roasts.

    Please give us an houron the 19th.

    Bill Albracht

    INSIDE: MiNuteS ANd MOtiONS; PAge 2 PRESIDENTS MESSAGE; PAGE 8 ARMY HeRO ANd NFL LegeNd; PAge 9 WWW.upcoming ch apter 299 events honor FLight Bears panthers game a message From Your presiDent

    We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit

    violence on those who would harm us.George Orwell

    QuAD CITIES CHAPTER 299 WWW.QCVVA299.ORG FeBRuARY 20

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    Minutes VVA299 Board

    of Directors Meeng-

    15Jan2013

    Call to order by Vice

    President Terry Lynch with

    he Pledge of Allegiance

    nd a moment of silence

    emembering our fallen

    nd missing Brothers and

    isters.

    Present were: Terry Lynch,

    Terry Kramer, Ray Hamilton,

    im Loveless, Paul Frenchy

    aves, Bob Brooks, Dennis

    aird, Bob McSparin, Ron

    Roman

    Commiee Reports

    Membership Dennis

    aird reported for Larry

    hat we currently have

    375 members (206 Life

    nd 169 Regular) and 42

    AVVA members. Proposed

    waiver of membership

    dues for one member in

    need. Moon was made,econded and approved.

    our members transferred.

    Charies Bob Brooks

    proposed a $200 donaon

    o Arrowhead Ranch. Bob

    Brooks moved and Ray

    Hamilton seconded we

    pprove the expenditure.

    Discussion followed, the

    moon was approved. Bob

    Brooks proposed a $200

    donaon for a student

    towards her $5000 needed

    for a Student Ambassador

    trip to Australia. Bob gave

    a detailed report of the

    students background and

    accomplishments. Ray

    Hamilton moved and BobBrooks seconded. The

    moon was passed aer

    brief discussion.

    Honor Guard Dennis Laird

    reported the upcoming

    trip to New Glarus, WI this

    weekend.

    Vet2Vet Frenchy Eaves

    reported upcoming visit

    to St. Anthonys Care

    Center on 12/12/2013 at

    1400 hours. Aendees

    are requested to arrive 10

    minutes early.

    Treasurers Report Terry

    Kramer reported nancialresults. He has included the

    recommendaons from the

    December Board meeng.

    The report was accepted as

    presented.

    Old Business

    Holiday Baskets Bob

    Brooks reported delivering

    a total of 144 baskets

    for Thanksgiving and

    Christmas. Chrisan Care

    sent us a Thank You for

    our donaon of turkeys and

    hams.

    The February membership

    meeng will have a

    presentaon on the history

    of 1st Army at the RockIsland Arsenal.

    New Business

    Board Meengs schedule

    for 2013 Discussion

    regarding pros and cons

    of remaining meengs

    with current Board. It was

    agreed to have the Board

    again meet next month

    before the Membership

    meeng at 6:00 p.m.

    Rock Island Property

    Discussions are connuing

    with the property owner.

    Scholarship Commiee

    Commiee will be meeng

    in January.

    Respecully submied,

    Ron Roman, Secretary

    Minutes Of VVA299

    Membership Meeng-

    Meeng Called to Order

    by Vice President Terry

    Lynch. The Pledge of

    Allegiance was recited

    followed by a moment o

    silence remembering ou

    fallen and missing Broth

    and Sisters. Twenty-one

    Members were present.

    Dennis Laird introduced

    Stephanie Smith who

    presented a brief overvi

    of an upcoming Welcom

    Home trip for VietnamVeterans, sponsored by

    Burlington Trailways. Th

    trip will run from April

    14th through April 19th;

    desnaons include

    Louisville, Dollywood an

    Cincinna. During the

    there, several special ev

    are planned to honor

    Vietnam Veterans. For

    more informaon, conta

    Burlington Trailways or Q

    Times Plus 60 Club.

    Terry requested that

    the Minutes from the

    Membership Meeng of

    20 November 2012 be

    approved. Bill Albracht

    moved, Ray Hamiltonseconded and the Minut

    were approved.

    Commiee Reports

    Membership Dennis

    Laird reported for Larry,

    that we currently have 3

    members (206 Life and

    VVA299 BoArd of dIrectors meetIng - 15 JAn 2013

    VVA299 memBershIp meetIng - 08 JAn 2013

    minutes cont. on page

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    169 Regular) and 42 AVVA

    members.

    Charity Bob Brooks

    moved to donate $200

    o Arrowhead Ranch,

    Andy Anderson seconded,

    moon passed. Bob Brooks

    moved to donate $200

    or a student to go on

    n internaonal trip to

    Australia, sponsored by

    People to People. Andy

    Anderson seconded,

    moon passed. Andy

    eported that the CharityCommiee to date has

    donated $6295.

    Honor Guard Andy

    Andersen reported their

    rip to New Glarus, WI is

    oming up, the 17th me

    hey have been invited to

    Present the Colors. The

    group will also again be

    marching in the St. PatricksDay parade, between Rock

    sland and Davenport, on

    Saturday March 16th.

    Vet2Vet Frenchy Eaves

    eported the next visit is to

    St. Anthonys Care Center

    on 12/12/2013 at 1400

    hrs. Aendees are asked to

    arrive 10 minutes early.

    Treasurers Report

    Terry Kramer reportedthe monthly income and

    expenses. The report was

    accepted as presented.

    Old Business

    Hog Roaster Ray

    Hamilton reported he

    currently is working with a

    list of about 27 members/helpers. He could use more

    people for the upcoming

    season. Please contact Ray

    if you can spare some me.

    President John is sll

    looking for programs for

    meengs.

    Honor Express/Honor Flight

    Bill Albracht reportedon results of meengs

    with the Honor Flight

    organizaon. Our member

    Mike Haney is on their

    Board of Directors. The

    local Honor Flight plans

    to connue to oer their

    service to the Korean Vets

    and later to the Vietnam

    Vets, if their sponsors

    connue to support the

    organizaon. Bill also

    reported that any VietnamVet who has signicant

    health problems could

    apply to go to the front of

    the line. With our inial

    concerns for our era vets

    resolved, and the many

    logiscal problems that

    developed with our plans

    for train service, the

    commiee recommended

    to the Board to merge

    the funds for The Honor

    Express into the Honor

    Flight fund. The Board

    approved. Bill moved that

    the membership approve

    merging these funds,

    Bob Brooks seconded the

    moon. Aer discussion,the moon was approved.

    New Business

    Hog Roaster Trailer Dan

    Carothers reported on

    the Special Events request

    for the Trailer expense,

    which was approved by

    the Board in December.

    Extensive discussion

    followed, including the

    need for a quorum of 15

    of the total membershipto vote on this as it is a

    major expenditure. The

    by-laws were discussed,

    Terry suggested we tabl

    this item unl February

    so that we can aempt

    to get a quorum of 15%

    membership in aenda

    Again, discussion follow

    with the nal agreemen

    to aempt passage at th

    February Membership

    meeng if enough

    members are present.

    Good of the Order

    Mike Haney won the $2

    drawing and donated

    it back to the HonorFlight. There was no Life

    Membership drawing th

    month.

    Respecully submied,

    Ron Roman, Secretary

    chapter 299 thanK You LinDa petersonAVVA Member Linda Peterson became involved with

    QCVVA Chapter 299 through her brothers Membership

    nd decorated combat service in Vietnam as a U.S.

    Marine. Since his death, Linda has moved to Kentucky

    but she connues her involvement in Chapter 299.

    Responding to the Sick Bay Sick Call secon in the

    anuary 2013 issue of Shoulder To Shoulder, Linda took

    he me to get the contact informaon of our under

    the weather Chapter 299 Members to give them a

    telephone call with her personal, eusive style of Ge

    Well Soon.

    Linda, we thank you for your kindness and considera

    for Members who are ill. Its impossible not to feel be

    when Linda engages you in conversaon a Chapter

    Salute to Linda Peterson.

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    vva chapter 299 event pLanning guiDe

    Descripon of Event:

    Primary objecve is to acquire an enclosed cargo trailer

    o assist the BBQ Cooking Team in fundraising. The

    econdary objecve of this project is to reduce the

    amount of physical labor from our volunteers and to

    epresent Chapter members in a professional manner to

    he public.

    Date and Time of Event:

    This applicaon is oered on 12/11/2012 to the Board

    of Directors. The me of acquision and modicaon

    upgrades will begin upon acceptance by the Board and

    ater by full Membership in January 2013.

    Planned Locaon:

    Quad Cies area through volunteers and merchants.

    Event funding amount

    Not to exceed budget of $11,000. See aached itemized

    amounts. We also qualify the line item budget esmate

    o allow commiee to increase or decrease line items at

    our discreon. This request is made so in the event we

    ome in under budget that we will have the commieereedom to add features at our discreon.

    Our commiee will be solicing sponsors, for

    various commitments, to assist the Chapter funding

    equirements. All donaons will be submied into

    Chapter treasury, with disbursements for purchase and

    mprovements to be made through Treasurer, or such

    nstrument as Board may approve.

    Budget for BBQ Team Trailer VVA Chapter #299

    Project Name: CHINOOK ONE

    Item Descripon Cost

    2013 Haulmark 14 Cargo trailer $5,000

    Electrical 110v hookups $250

    Air compressor and accessories $125

    Seville 12 drawer stainless roll around $800

    Seville 5 drawer stainless roll around $400

    Steel, caster, powder coat for roll arounds $1100

    Steel, wood, aluminum for shelving $1100

    Graphics and leering $850

    License $100Insurance $200

    Utensils, openers, containers $125

    Canopy tent cover-replacement $150

    Brake controller for tow vehicle $150

    Overrun conngency $650

    Budget Request $11,000

    Requested by: Dan Carothers, Chairman, Support trail

    Commiee

    Commiee Members: Ray Hamilton, Bob Jackson, BobMcSparin, Mike Healea, Frenchy Eaves,

    Dan Carothers

    Chairman____________________________ 12/11/12

    Board Approved Date:

    Chapter Membership Approved Date:

    avva meeting FeBruarY

    AVVA chapter meengs are held on the 3rd Tuesday of the month at

    6:30pm at the Rock Island Arsenal cafeteria. We would like for you to

    oin us with your ideas and thoughts. Come join us in parades, helping

    with hog roasts and other charity events along with the members of the

    VVA chapter.

    We look forward to seeing you!

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    SHOuLdeR tO SHOuLdeR iS BROugHt tO YOu eAcH MONtH BY:

    BILL ALBRACHT & JIM LOVELESS NEWSLETTER CO-EDITORS

    SeAN MuRPHY - cHAPteR WeBMASteR & NeWSLetteR cOORdiNAtOR

    JIM HIxSON; MANAGING EDITOR [ 309 ] 792-0068 E-MAIL = [email protected]

    the cut oFF Date to orDer Your chapter 299 varsitY JacKet WiLL enD JanuarY

    21st. the orDer WiLL Be suBmitteD JanuarY 22nD, 2013.iF You Want a chapter

    JacKet at these prices: orDer noW ! prices are going up !

    apriL 2013 eLection notiFication

    Quad Cies Vietnam Veterans of America Chapter 299

    lecon Board announces that Elecon Night will be held

    Tuesday, April 16, 2013 at the Moline American Legion at

    6 P.M.Any Member may advance the candidacy of another

    Member or himself for Chapter Ocers, Board Members

    nd Delegates.

    1. Please advise any Member of the Elecon

    Commiee proposals for Elected Oces. Contact Tom

    Marxen [ 309-523-2727 ], Joe Ramos [ 309-755-1471 or

    Mike Ellis [ 309-792-8569] who will prepare the slate of

    Candidates.

    2. A short, simple biography may or may not be

    ubmied by the Candidate. This is the decision of the

    andidate.

    ALL CANDIDATE NAMES MUST BE SUBMITTED NO LATER

    THAN FEBRUARY 25, 2013 TO APPEAR IN THE MARCH

    SSUE OF SHOULDER TO SHOULDER.

    MEMBERSHIP REPORT

    VVA Chapter 299 currently has 374 members. Our newest annual member is Billy Montgomery.

    AVVA Chapter 299 has 42 members. Their newest annual member is Tom Stout.

    Welcome aboard to you both !!!

    Regreully, I must report the passing of long me VVA member Barrie Gibson. He was a 19 year Navy veteran. An

    he was a member of our Chapters Honor Guard for many years. His good nature and winning smile will be missed

    ll of us good ol boys. Our condolences go out to his family and many friends for their loss.

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    honor eXpress out honor FLight in

    Over two years ago, our

    Chapter set about to

    gure out a way to send

    rea Vietnam Veteransour Naons Capital

    o see the Vietnam

    Memorial as well as other

    naonal monuments and

    memorials. It seemed to

    be the right thing to do,

    ive those who had served

    n-country a chance to

    ee The Wall. A chance

    o reect, remember and

    heal. The Honor Flight

    Program (HFP) for WWII

    ets was having such

    tremendous posive

    eect on all that went, we

    decided to put on our own

    ersion.

    The only problem withhe HFP was that the

    WWII vets were dying o

    before they could make

    he trip. Realizing that we

    s a group are not geng

    ny younger, our Chapter

    undertook a bold iniave -

    our goal: transport QCA VN

    ets to the VN Memorial.

    Not wanng to diminish

    he support for the HFP

    or confuse the public,

    he decision was made to

    empt to make the trip

    by rail. A commiee was

    ormed, fund raising was

    niated (over $3000 to

    date), and research

    begun. The commiees

    diligent research revealed

    that although it could be

    done, the logiscs andnancial consideraons

    to accomplish the mission

    were monumental. It

    became a bridge too

    far in that the obstacles

    presented were stang to

    overshadow the reward.

    In the inial stages of the

    commiees research, a

    meeng was held with

    the QCA Honor Flight

    commiee. Our commiee

    wanted to learn what

    works and what does

    not. In conversaon it

    was learned that it was

    the intenon of the HFP

    to start sending the QCAKorean War vets when

    the WWII vets were

    done. Further, there were

    seriously contemplang

    reaching down to the

    Vietnam vets aer the

    Korean vets were taken

    care of. This has since been

    recently rearmed. The

    posion of the HFP Board

    is as long as the funding

    connues and the interest

    remains, the VN Vets are

    next up.

    When you look at what

    the HFP has accomplished

    in their relavely short

    existence, it is almost

    beyond belief. The naonal

    recognion, the funding

    and their organizaonal

    structure speaks volumes

    to the devoon and self-

    sacrice of all those who

    have dedicated their me

    and resources to this

    incredibly worthwhile

    project.

    This year, there will beeight Honor Flights. The

    majority will be Korean

    vets. Keeping in mind that

    many Korean War Vets

    were also WWII vets, the

    list should move along

    quickly. But to be very

    realisc, VN vets would

    not be making the trip for

    at least two years. There

    is one caveat, if a VN vet

    is suering from a life

    threatening illness, they go

    now.

    Chapter member Mike

    Haney is on the HFP Board.

    Mike has volunteered to

    be our Chapters liaison to

    the HFP as well as head

    Chapters commiee in

    support of the HFP. Mik

    will provide updates wit

    reference to the progres

    and meline of the Kore

    vets transport.

    At the Chapter meeng

    in January, an oral

    report was given on the

    aforemenoned facts. Amoon was made and

    the membership voted t

    dissolve the Honor Expr

    project and back the Ho

    Flight Program. Remem

    there are no guarantees

    that the HFP will conn

    aer the Korean War ve

    are nished, but then

    again what in this life is

    guaranteed?

    Bill Albracht

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    the mYth anD the truth oF trang Bang inciDent

    By chance, you might

    ead a report or a story

    n American mainstream

    media that asserted that Kimhuc, the lile nine-year-

    ld Vietnamese girl running

    aked from the napalm

    trike near Trang Bang on 8

    une 1972, was burned by

    Americans bombing Trang

    Bang.

    Unfortunately the public

    ever realized that no

    American had involvement

    n this incident near Trang

    Bang that burned Phan Thi

    Kim Phuc. The planes doing

    he bombing near the village

    were VNAF ( South Vietnam

    Air Force) and were being

    own by Vietnamese pilots

    in support of ARVN troops on

    the ground.

    The Vietnamese pilot who

    dropped the napalm in

    error is currently living in

    the United States. Even the

    AP photographer, Nick Ut,

    who took the picture, was

    Vietnamese. The incident in

    the photo took place on the

    second day of a three-day

    bale between the North

    Vietnamese Army (NVA) who

    occupied the village of Trang

    Bang and the ARVN (Army of

    the Republic of Vietnam) who

    were trying to force the NVA

    out of the village.

    The reports in the news

    media that an American

    commander ordered the air

    strike that burned Kim Phucare incorrect. There were no

    Americans involved in any

    capacity. We (Americans)

    had nothing to do with

    controlling VNAF, according

    to Lieutenant General (Ret)

    James F. Hollingsworth, the

    Commanding General of TRAC

    at that me. Also, it has been

    incorrectly reported that two

    of Kim Phucs brothers were

    killed in this incident. They

    were Kims cousins not her

    brothers. A dierent detail

    report is presented as follow.

    This is also a Tribute to Re

    Major Ron Timberlake. He

    was a great warrior, and

    defender of the truth. In hunwaining search for the

    truth, he has contributed t

    dispelling the MYTH about

    the Bombing of Trang Ban

    His unmely death has be

    a real loss not only for his

    family but also the Vietna

    Veteran community. He ha

    led the way in dispelling th

    myths of the war. One suc

    myth is listed below.

    In Honor of Ron Timberlak

    may the truth be our light

    *submied by Dan Johnso

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    a DaY i WiLL never Forget!

    On October 28, 2012, four members

    of the Chapter Honor Guard (Andy

    Andersen, Dennis Laird, Bob Brooks,

    and myself) were privileged topresent the Colors at the Chicago

    Bears/Carolina Panthers football

    game. Man, what a day that was!

    First of all, the Manager of Events and

    Entertainment, Lee Sicinski met us at

    gate 14. He in turn introduced us to

    he young lady (probably around 21

    years old or so) who was to be our

    escort and leader throughout our

    tay, Paulie Bassin.

    She was as an absolute joy to work

    with. These two people as well as

    any other members of the Bears

    organizaon with which we came in

    ontact treated us with the utmost

    kindness and respect. It was a great

    experience for us to be able to honor

    all veterans, the NFL, and

    the Chicago

    Bears. As for me, beinga Bears fan all of my life,

    I thought I had died and

    gone to heaven!

    The Chicago Bears fans

    were incredible! When

    we came o the eld

    and were headed to

    the tunnel to await the

    kicko, the fans along the railing

    of the rst few rows of seats made

    us feel like celebries. They were

    shaking our hands, thanking us for

    our service to our country, taking

    pictures of us and with us.

    As Vietnam veterans, we are not

    used to this kind of reacon. This

    scenario connued as we made our

    way up the upper levels of the sta

    to our seats. Again, the fans made

    a point to shake our hands, thank

    for our service, take pictures of us

    and with us, and even oered to b

    us beer and something to eat. Wh

    an incredible day it was!

    Jim Loveless

    veterans get Designation on ioWa Drivers Licenses

    A new Iowa law will allow veterans to have a designaon

    on their drivers license or idencaon card.

    The state Department of Transportaon says the law was

    mplemented several months ahead of schedule. The

    aw, signed by Gov. Terry Branstad last year, is a voluntary

    niave designed to help veterans get discounts

    throughout the state without carrying ocial military

    documents. Iowa law only allows the designaon whe

    a drivers license or idencaon card is rst issued or

    renewed.

    If you would like an applicaon, please contact either J

    Loveless or Steve Lowther.

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    a message From Your presiDent

    Here in the middle of a good old

    Midwest winter it is a treat to be able

    o look forward to the days geng

    onger and thoughts of Spring onlywo months away. With that, we can

    lso think of our Annual Meeng and

    lecons.

    Our Chapter is loaded with quality

    members, have really stepped

    p, this last year in parcular, and

    been involved in our many chapter

    cvies. We have a good number

    of experienced and relavely new

    members who have shown leadership

    ability in many ways. This year, as

    in other years, there are 4 ocers,6 Board of Director, and 2 State

    Delegate posions up for elecon.

    If you are interested, contact Tom

    Marxen, 309-236-5652.

    We also have some important

    business to discuss and vote on at

    our February meeng, and we Really

    need as many members as possible

    to be in aendance. We will have

    guest speaker, George Eaton, who

    is the Historian for the First Army.

    Should be very interesng, and thwill be NO test aerwards!

    I hope to see as many of you as

    possible at the February meeng.

    John Katherman

    President, VVA #299

    WiLLiam r.i. easY smith

    asy Smith served with A Company, 1st Baalion,

    7th Infantry Regiment, 25th Infantry Division { The

    Wolounds } in Vietnam in 1967. William was awarded

    wo Purple Heart Medals and the Bronze Star Medal with

    V device for saving a couple of troopers, also wounded,

    rom a canal.

    asy is a Lifeme Member and Past President of the 27th

    nfantry Regiment Historical Society. He serves on the

    oard of VVA Chapter 500 and is acve in the Veterans

    ommunity.

    asy travels a great deal vising Veterans, their Families,

    ncluding trips to Schoeld Barracks, Hawaii to support

    Wolounds and other units of the 25th Infantry Division

    when they deploy and re-deploy.

    he Wolounds have 14 Medal of Honor recipients

    which include Master Sgt. John F. Baker, deceased

    Member of 299 and personal friend of Easy ] and more

    than 29 Bale Streamers with over 12 Citaons on its

    Colors.

    Easy and the Wolounds have supported the Holy Fam

    Home [ orphanage ] in Osaka, Japan for over 60 years.

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