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First Flames:
Burning, Turbulence and Buoyancy Jonathan Dursi (CITA), Frank Timmes (LANL),
Mike Zingale (SUNY SB)
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Flame Ignition
Highly nonlinear,transient
phenomenon
Interaction of nuclear reactions,conductivity,
hydrodynamics
Difcult to model
Nigel Gorbold, Univ. Colorado
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Ignition
Turbulentconditions
Many potential`ashpoints Important to
understand where/when points doignite
Niemeyer, Hillebrandt &Woosley (1996):
success of explosioncan depend sensitivelyon number, location ofignition points
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Early Burning
Ignition can occur on ~cm scales
Not resolved by large-scalesimulation
For initial conditions in large-scale simulations, need to map
turbulence ignition points ignition early ame bubbles
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Outline
Some notes on ignition One-zone Flame (ongoing) Detonation
Early burning: what happens next? Characteristic size of ame bubbles Flame model?
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Flame vs Detonation
Flame/Deagration
Subsonic
Heat propagates byconduction
Detonation Supersonic
Shock-driven heating
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Our contributions
Dursi & Timmes 2006: One-zone ignition times Very hard to ignite det n at low densities:
need much more than local supersonicow. Geometric constraint.
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Our contributions
Zingale & Dursi 2007:
Under given conditions, there is acharacteristic size of a ame bubble -larger is shredded by motions, turbulence
This characteristic size may lead to newame model
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One-zone ignition
Ignition: interactionof:
`chemistry
hydrodynamics
conduction
Even in one-zonemodel (no hydro,cond n) not trivial
1e+09
2e+09
3e+09
4e+09
5e+09
6e+09
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9e+09
0 0.005 0.01 0.015 0.02 0.025 0.03 0.035 0.04 0.045
T e m p
( K )
Time (s)
Ignition Delay Time
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One-zone ignition
`map out ignition timesfor various conditions
Density, temp, comp.
Measurement of a`burning time
ignition if burning timefaster than ow,conduction times
8.0 8.5 9.0 9.5log10(dens)
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l o g 1 0 ( t e m p )
m illio n s e c1 0 0 0 s e c
1 s e c
1 m il l is e c
1 m ic r o s e c
1 n a n o s e c
1 p i c o s e c
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One-zone ignition ~7000 calculations
Can build ignition timetting function
Quite good over ~15orders of magnitude inignition time
Surprising dependence oncomposition - eg, evenmodest amount of Ne
10 -15 10 -10 10 -5 10 0 10 5 10 10
Computed Ignition Time (s)
10 -15
10 -10
10 -5
10 0
10 5
10 10
F i t I g n
i t i o n
T i m e
( s )
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One-zone ignition time Necessary input into
ignition models
Ignition time must becompared to ow ( )and conduction ( )time scales
Also directly givesdetonation thickness -distance behind shock where burning occurs
-0.001 0.000 0.001 0.002 0.003Position behind shock (cm)
0.0
0.2
0.4
0.6
0.8
1.0
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P r e s ,
E n e r g y
R e
l e a s e
Pred. Width
i
h c
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Flame ignition
Only a small part of thequestion we really wantanswer to:
Given a particularturbulent hotspot, canthat point ignite beforeeddies/conduction diffuseit away?
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Spark-ignited counterow ames:Mastorakos, Marchione, Ahmed, Balachandran, Cambridge
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Flame ignition Simplied setup:
Spherical gaussianhotspot, quiescent ow
Even still, huge parameterspace
Work withundergraduate studentsDoucette, Hiratsuka,ongoing
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Detonation Ignition Ignition at a point --
drives hot shock
Shock must slow down todetonation speed fordetonation to ignite
How big a region?Naively, about a shock thickness ( )
About a factor of 5000too small!
ignitionpt
shock
cold fuel
ashD i
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Detonation Ignition Curvature strongly
modies detonation
Speed drops withcurvature
Beyond certain point, nosteady detonation.
Size of region must be~5000 detonationthicknesses
Detonation Curvature (10km) -1
D e t o n a t
i o n
S p e e
d ( 1 0 7
k m
/ s )
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Detonation Ignition Corresponding physical
size of region growsrapidly with decreasingdensity
By 5x10 7, already ~km forlow carbon fraction
Hard for purely localprocess to ignitedetonation
But very easy tospuriously numerically
ignite detonation
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Outline
Some notes on ignition One-zone Flame (ongoing) Detonation
Early burning: what happens next? Characteristic size of ame bubbles Flame model?
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First Burning
Once a pointignites, what canhappen?
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First Burning
Once a pointignites, what canhappen?
Spherical ameburningoutwards
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First Burning
Once a pointignites, what canhappen?
Buoyant rise
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First Burning
Once a pointignites, what canhappen?
Distortion byturbulence
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First Burning
Each hascharacteristic
velocity Flame speed xed
at given dens
Others bubble-sizedependent Flame speed always
wins until grows
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Size where ame speed
stops dominating
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What happens then?
Robinson,Dursi et al
(2003)
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What happens then?
Robinson,Dursi et al
(2003)
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Iapichino et al, (2006)
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Buoyant rise
Vortical motionsof bubbles own
rise tear it apart Unless ame
speed is faster
Balance setscharacteristicame bubble size
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Balance between two
sets bubble size
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Characteristic bubble
Size
Sets initial condition`ame bubble sizefor large-scalesimulation (~0.5 km)
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Compared against
simulations Semi-analyticcalculations
comparisons of velocities checkedwith `real amecode developed at
LBNL (Zingale, Bell,Day, Rendleman)
Note non-constantame properties!
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Simple semi-analytic model forthis case: amespeed ~ risespeed between30-50 ame
thicknesses in size
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Flame modeling Flame modeling
based on planarpicture of ame
Simulations w/ ~50ame thicknesses
Turbulent, RTcorrugation
But much largerrange of scales
Zingale et al, (2005)
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`Fragmenting Bubbles
Flame Model Volume V burning
outwards,fragmenting intocharacteristicvolumes
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Rapid decrease in bubble size just where increased burning needed?
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Conclusions One zone ignition times - changes w/ Ne Hard to ignite detonations
Flames burn out signicantly (~km) beforethey start to rise Initial conditions need roughly this res
Found typical burning bubble size Rapid decrease in size - increased burning? Is planar ame model appropriate?
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Conclusions One zone ignition times - changes w/ Ne Hard to ignite detonations
Flames burn out signicantly (~km) beforethey start to rise Initial conditions need roughly this res
Found typical burning bubble size Rapid decrease in size - increased burning? Is planar ame model appropriate?
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Characteristic Bubble
Size Can also predict if
burns through centre
If ignites within ~25km will certainlyburn through centre
No remaining poolof fuel
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Zingale et al, (2006)
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Sedov ignition of a
detonation
0.1 1.0 10.0 100.0 1000.0Shock Position (cm)
0.1
1.0
10.0
100.0
S h o c
k V e
l o c
i t y
( V 0
)
90 100 110 120Shock Position (cm)
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1.00
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