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    First Flames:

    Burning, Turbulence and Buoyancy Jonathan Dursi (CITA), Frank Timmes (LANL),

    Mike Zingale (SUNY SB)

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    Flame Ignition

    Highly nonlinear,transient

    phenomenon

    Interaction of nuclear reactions,conductivity,

    hydrodynamics

    Difcult to model

    Nigel Gorbold, Univ. Colorado

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    Ignition

    Turbulentconditions

    Many potential`ashpoints Important to

    understand where/when points doignite

    Niemeyer, Hillebrandt &Woosley (1996):

    success of explosioncan depend sensitivelyon number, location ofignition points

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    Early Burning

    Ignition can occur on ~cm scales

    Not resolved by large-scalesimulation

    For initial conditions in large-scale simulations, need to map

    turbulence ignition points ignition early ame bubbles

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    Outline

    Some notes on ignition One-zone Flame (ongoing) Detonation

    Early burning: what happens next? Characteristic size of ame bubbles Flame model?

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    Flame vs Detonation

    Flame/Deagration

    Subsonic

    Heat propagates byconduction

    Detonation Supersonic

    Shock-driven heating

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    Our contributions

    Dursi & Timmes 2006: One-zone ignition times Very hard to ignite det n at low densities:

    need much more than local supersonicow. Geometric constraint.

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    Our contributions

    Zingale & Dursi 2007:

    Under given conditions, there is acharacteristic size of a ame bubble -larger is shredded by motions, turbulence

    This characteristic size may lead to newame model

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    One-zone ignition

    Ignition: interactionof:

    `chemistry

    hydrodynamics

    conduction

    Even in one-zonemodel (no hydro,cond n) not trivial

    1e+09

    2e+09

    3e+09

    4e+09

    5e+09

    6e+09

    7e+09

    8e+09

    9e+09

    0 0.005 0.01 0.015 0.02 0.025 0.03 0.035 0.04 0.045

    T e m p

    ( K )

    Time (s)

    Ignition Delay Time

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    One-zone ignition

    `map out ignition timesfor various conditions

    Density, temp, comp.

    Measurement of a`burning time

    ignition if burning timefaster than ow,conduction times

    8.0 8.5 9.0 9.5log10(dens)

    8.6

    8.8

    9.0

    9.2

    9.4

    9.6

    9.8

    10.0

    l o g 1 0 ( t e m p )

    m illio n s e c1 0 0 0 s e c

    1 s e c

    1 m il l is e c

    1 m ic r o s e c

    1 n a n o s e c

    1 p i c o s e c

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    One-zone ignition ~7000 calculations

    Can build ignition timetting function

    Quite good over ~15orders of magnitude inignition time

    Surprising dependence oncomposition - eg, evenmodest amount of Ne

    10 -15 10 -10 10 -5 10 0 10 5 10 10

    Computed Ignition Time (s)

    10 -15

    10 -10

    10 -5

    10 0

    10 5

    10 10

    F i t I g n

    i t i o n

    T i m e

    ( s )

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    One-zone ignition time Necessary input into

    ignition models

    Ignition time must becompared to ow ( )and conduction ( )time scales

    Also directly givesdetonation thickness -distance behind shock where burning occurs

    -0.001 0.000 0.001 0.002 0.003Position behind shock (cm)

    0.0

    0.2

    0.4

    0.6

    0.8

    1.0

    1.2

    P r e s ,

    E n e r g y

    R e

    l e a s e

    Pred. Width

    i

    h c

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    Flame ignition

    Only a small part of thequestion we really wantanswer to:

    Given a particularturbulent hotspot, canthat point ignite beforeeddies/conduction diffuseit away?

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    Spark-ignited counterow ames:Mastorakos, Marchione, Ahmed, Balachandran, Cambridge

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    Flame ignition Simplied setup:

    Spherical gaussianhotspot, quiescent ow

    Even still, huge parameterspace

    Work withundergraduate studentsDoucette, Hiratsuka,ongoing

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    Detonation Ignition Ignition at a point --

    drives hot shock

    Shock must slow down todetonation speed fordetonation to ignite

    How big a region?Naively, about a shock thickness ( )

    About a factor of 5000too small!

    ignitionpt

    shock

    cold fuel

    ashD i

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    Detonation Ignition Curvature strongly

    modies detonation

    Speed drops withcurvature

    Beyond certain point, nosteady detonation.

    Size of region must be~5000 detonationthicknesses

    Detonation Curvature (10km) -1

    D e t o n a t

    i o n

    S p e e

    d ( 1 0 7

    k m

    / s )

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    Detonation Ignition Corresponding physical

    size of region growsrapidly with decreasingdensity

    By 5x10 7, already ~km forlow carbon fraction

    Hard for purely localprocess to ignitedetonation

    But very easy tospuriously numerically

    ignite detonation

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    Outline

    Some notes on ignition One-zone Flame (ongoing) Detonation

    Early burning: what happens next? Characteristic size of ame bubbles Flame model?

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    First Burning

    Once a pointignites, what canhappen?

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    First Burning

    Once a pointignites, what canhappen?

    Spherical ameburningoutwards

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    First Burning

    Once a pointignites, what canhappen?

    Buoyant rise

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    First Burning

    Once a pointignites, what canhappen?

    Distortion byturbulence

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    First Burning

    Each hascharacteristic

    velocity Flame speed xed

    at given dens

    Others bubble-sizedependent Flame speed always

    wins until grows

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    Size where ame speed

    stops dominating

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    What happens then?

    Robinson,Dursi et al

    (2003)

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    What happens then?

    Robinson,Dursi et al

    (2003)

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    Iapichino et al, (2006)

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    Buoyant rise

    Vortical motionsof bubbles own

    rise tear it apart Unless ame

    speed is faster

    Balance setscharacteristicame bubble size

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    Balance between two

    sets bubble size

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    Characteristic bubble

    Size

    Sets initial condition`ame bubble sizefor large-scalesimulation (~0.5 km)

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    Compared against

    simulations Semi-analyticcalculations

    comparisons of velocities checkedwith `real amecode developed at

    LBNL (Zingale, Bell,Day, Rendleman)

    Note non-constantame properties!

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    Simple semi-analytic model forthis case: amespeed ~ risespeed between30-50 ame

    thicknesses in size

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    Flame modeling Flame modeling

    based on planarpicture of ame

    Simulations w/ ~50ame thicknesses

    Turbulent, RTcorrugation

    But much largerrange of scales

    Zingale et al, (2005)

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    `Fragmenting Bubbles

    Flame Model Volume V burning

    outwards,fragmenting intocharacteristicvolumes

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    Rapid decrease in bubble size just where increased burning needed?

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    Conclusions One zone ignition times - changes w/ Ne Hard to ignite detonations

    Flames burn out signicantly (~km) beforethey start to rise Initial conditions need roughly this res

    Found typical burning bubble size Rapid decrease in size - increased burning? Is planar ame model appropriate?

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    Conclusions One zone ignition times - changes w/ Ne Hard to ignite detonations

    Flames burn out signicantly (~km) beforethey start to rise Initial conditions need roughly this res

    Found typical burning bubble size Rapid decrease in size - increased burning? Is planar ame model appropriate?

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    Characteristic Bubble

    Size Can also predict if

    burns through centre

    If ignites within ~25km will certainlyburn through centre

    No remaining poolof fuel

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    Zingale et al, (2006)

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    Sedov ignition of a

    detonation

    0.1 1.0 10.0 100.0 1000.0Shock Position (cm)

    0.1

    1.0

    10.0

    100.0

    S h o c

    k V e

    l o c

    i t y

    ( V 0

    )

    90 100 110 120Shock Position (cm)

    0.900.95

    1.00

    1.051.10