Guide to make a patch for solving conflicts

This is how I do it. It works for me, and I could make around 200 mods compatible (Im not

gonna count them) To give an example, I downloaded the mod Queen of the Damned -

Deadlier Serana and tried to make it compatible.

Note: You will probably notice there are MANY conflicts between your mods. But if you have

a good load order, and didnt picked mods that will clash in many ways. Then you should be

fine with only patching the mods you know that needs them.

random screenshot, to make front page more colorful. Irrelevant? Nah, I had to patch all my

weather and sound mods, the armor is also edited to work with requiem. And the city has also

a patch cause Im using Open Cities.

Inhoud 1. Search for Conflicts .......................................................................................................................... 3

2. Making the Patch.............................................................................................................................. 5

3. More examples, cause we need MOAARRR!!! .................................................................................. 8

a. Other examples for Queen of the Damned - Deadlier Serana .................................................... 8

Example 1: Follower......................................................................................................................... 8

Example 2: Spells for NPC ............................................................................................................... 9

Example 3: Spell Power ................................................................................................................. 10

b. Examples from my mod list ......................................................................................................... 11

Example 1: New weapon/armor (for requiem/skyRe ) ............................................................. 11

Example 2: Creatures (Heimfeigr) .................................................................................................. 13

Example 3: New follower (Sofia) .................................................................................................. 14

Example 4: Multiple factions (falskaar undeath marriable Serana) ........................................ 15

Example: 5: Equipment for NPC (Immersive weapons) ................................................................... 16

A word of Appreciation ......................................................................................................................... 17

1. Search for Conflicts

Open Tes5Edit, and just load everything. You never know if another mod could also conflict.

Click OK to continue

Wait until you see: Background Loader: finished (It can take several minutes if you have many

mods) Then right click on the list, and choose apply filter. Make sure you only check the follow

things.

Click on Filter to apply the filter. Again, this can take a while to load.

Now find the esp you want to make compatible in the list on the left, and expand it so you see

some of the records inside it.

The filter we applied will help you with finding the conflicts.

Info: Red means that its the conflict loser. So another mod just overrides the changes. The text

in orange and khaki means that its the conflict winner, but another mod is the loser. You

probably want to look into it, cause otherwise the other mod wont work like intended.

Text colored in black, green or purple can be ignored (they dont have conflicts you need to

worry about)

In my case, we have to check every record

Now click on the formID that you want to check for conflicts. And you will see that new things

appeared in the right column. At the top you will see every esp that edits something about that

specific ID. The column loaded last will be the one loaded in your game.

This makes it so important to have a good load order. If you notice that there is always the

same mod that has conflicts on places you dont want, you should change your load order

first

Tip: Right click, and then choose hide no conflict rows to make it less cluttered.

This is how my screen looks like for the first record

2. Making the Patch

Note: When you want to close without saving anything. Uncheck everything after hitting

the x button

Now it is important that you know from which mod every esp comes, and what every mod does

generally. The next part can be different for every person. It also depends on your

preferences. And keep track of what record you are actually editing (magic effect, NPC, etc)

You want to make your changes in a new file, cause otherwise you have to do everything

again when you update or reinstall the mod.

right click on your main esp and choose Copy as override into.

For me, requiem is an important mod, its an overhaul, so I like to give it more priority. Thats

why I choose to make it the base of the patch.

You will get a warning message. Choose Yes if you are absolutely sure

Info: At the end Tes5Edit will always make a backup of the original files. So if you messed up

you can still go back.

Check , click OK to continue. And then choose a name

Tip: You can choose to copy it in an existing patch, in place of a new file to reduce your

number of files. For example, I could paste it into my self-made Requiem conflict.esp

It will ask to add the masters. Click Yes to continue. You have to do this for every new master.

Now you have to add/change/delete records to make it compatible with your other mods. But

it is different for every mod, and also differs for everyones preferences. So I will state my

reasons for the changes I made.

Requiem changes the magic effect drain health so that it will be silent and doesnt has a resist

value. I want to keep that so I copy it.

The easiest way to copy something, is drag and drop.

Tip: You can drag/drop a whole branch at once. So in place of both dragging the Resist value:

none and Casting sound level: silent, you can drag the Magic effect Data at once.

Requiem isnt build to be compatible with the Unofficial patches. (But still works fine without

though) And both the unofficial patch and the Serana mod delete 2 conditions. So I chose to

delete the ActorTypeDwarven/Undead.

You can remove things, or just drag and drop the whole branch of the esp you prefer like said

before.

To remove: right click the condition below the new made patch.

And choose remove

Thats all that Im going to change for this magic effect. The Req_SpellConcentration is already

added because I choose the requiem.esp when I was overriding it into the new file. But I might

want to delete the DLC1VampireDrainEffect. Im not sure what for impact it will have, so I keep it

for requiems sake.

I will post some rules I use to decide what to add and what not.

Try to be consistent, and pick some mods that you want to be superior. Most of the time

the records of overhaul mods shouldnt be overwritten by others.

Dont copy blindly. Always know what you are doing. I already said it, but if you know

what the mod does, and what it should change. You can know what you should keep

and what not.

If every other mod have the same values for a specific record as the

skyrim/dawnguard/dragonborn/heartfire.esm only 1 does something different. Then

you should add that one record most of the times.

Some records doesnt need to be added cause they are automatically merged at

startup. Like DOBJ, DIAL, LCTN, IDLE records. Source:

http://afkmods.iguanadons.net/index.php?/topic/3940-skyrim-tes5edit-records-that-

merge-at-runtime/

Dont change counters like perk counts. They are automatically calculated. And they

should reflect the amount of perks the npc has.

If you dont know to what something is referring too. Press ctrl + click on it. And it will

bring you to it. Maybe it gives you more information.

Some things just doesnt work together. Deal with it (_)

Use your brains and common sense, I know you have them.

You dont always have to copy, maybe you find another value that works better.

Keep doing this for everything else. If you need a few more examples, then go to the last

section of this guide There is most likely an example similar to your mod.

But once you are finished, you can close Tes5Edit, just hit the button at the top right

corner. After you did this a new window will popup.

Normally, only the new .esp should be listed here. If not, you most likely changed something

accidently in another file. (even if you added something, and then removed it again) But

nonetheless, if your intention was to only make a patch. Then only that specific esp should be

checked. Also dont change the Backup plugins, it should always be checked.

Info: If you messed up something and just want to close the program, so you can try again.

Then leave everything unchecked. So nothing will be saved.

In addition, (as long as you didnt touched the Backup plugins. Tes5Edit always make backups in

your skyrim/data/Tes5Edit Backups folder.

They are named x.esp.backup.YYYY_MM_DD_hh_mm_ss so you can find the right backup, if

you know the time when you did your edits wrong. Just drop them back in your Skyrim/data

folder, and remove the everything after .esp in the name. Your computer will say something

about extensions, choose yes/ok.

Dont forget to sort the new file in your load order, run patchers like ASIS again and make

rebuild your bashed patch if you use Wrye smash (highly recommended)

Irrelevant to this guide, but if you use requiem. DONT check import names/stats when building

your bashed patch with wrye smash.

3. More examples, cause we need MOAARRR!!!

I always hate it when I experience something different then described in the guide. So I will

give a few more scenarios. Beware that this part contains the most text. Its just necessary to cover

as much of possible of all the occasions. I still come across new things I need to figure out constantly.

a. Other examples for Queen of the Damned - Deadlier Serana

Example 1: Follower

Requiem just completely removes a whole part. The Serana mod not only adds the script from

dawnguard again, but changes it a little. Notice the name of the script DLC1SeranaLevelingScript

Requiem is know for deleveling the world. So you have to decide if you want to keep Serana

deleveled. Or not, but add the magicscaling of some spells that the mod introduced. If you

scroll down you will also see this:

So if you didnt added the script in the patch, then make sure you didnt flag Serana with the

PC Level Mult, and that she is already level 50 with some extra magicka and stamina. Choose

and stay consistent. Dont mix things.

Example 2: Spells for NPC

For all things like items and spells you can choose which you want to be added. I will add the

spells of the Serana mod to the patch. But notice that this mod also removed the RaiseZombie

spell. My guts tells me that the UDS_CorpseCurse is a similar spell. But this is an example why

you should check the mod page. (I havent done that, cause I only downloaded the mod for this

guide)

Its the same for perks. But a bit more tricky. Cause perks isnt always to make the npc only

stronger. Some perks are required to do something else. If a perk starts with a weird prefex

you should add them.

The AA000Xarrian prefix is from requiem. You definitely need those, cause otherwise the

follower will be too weak in the world of requiem. The UDS_SeranaPerlk Coldharbours Strenght

will increase the overall strength of the npc. Which is safe to assume, cause that was the whole

point of the mod. If you think she is too weak, add it. If not, then dont (but why did you

needed the mod then? :p) I know it will work without the perk, cause I checked the other spells

etc the mod alters. And none of them added the condition that the perk is required.

Note: On the first screenshot you could see that ASIS hasnt been repatched yet. So remember

to do that after you made the patch.

Example 3: Spell Power

Here we are looking at conflicts of a spell. More specific about the magnitude of the spell

(=strength)

Requiem makes the world hard. So the spells also needed to be a little stronger. Using the

changes of the mod that makes Serana stronger, will in this case NOT make here stronger. So

if you still felt that here spells are too weak in requiem, then you have to override it to the

patch, and change the values yourself. (double click, and type the numbers)

b. Examples from my mod list

Example 1: New weapon/armor (for requiem/skyRe )

First, its not a patch, but I merged all my armors together. (I dont recommend this, cause if you

have that many mods, without the knowledge to merge mods. You should uninstall some mods)

But I can still explain how you can make your new weapons compatible with mods like SkyRe or

Requiem.

Open the armor mod, and then open the branch weapon/armor, click your item. And then search for

the keywords. This armor has the keyword ArmorMaterialGlass. Then look for an existing armor that

is also from the glass category. And see what the overhaul mod changes on it.

glass armor: skyrim requiem Weapons and armor fixes

Requiem changes the weight a little. And also the value. Another mod adds a new keyword. So I

could add that keyword too.

Note: even when an armor is made from the same material, it can still be slightly different.

So you could add these records in the patch.

For requiem it is more noticeable when you have dragon or daedric items. Cause requiem makes

them much stronger (Surprisingly, I just dont have an armor mod of this type)

Daedric armor: skyrim - requiem

For requiem its mostly only the gold Value, weight, armor rating, and sometimes an extra/missing

keywords that should be added. But it doesnt hurt to check the other thing quickly.

For SkyRe there is the reproccer iirc. If you dont have dawnguard you can still do it this way.

And I heard stories that some mods arent changed even with the reproccer. For what I know the

reproccer works according to the keywords the items have. So I think it misses an important

keyword. But dont hunt me down if Im wrong about that. I have only installed that mod for a short

time, and that was a year ago.

Example 2: Creatures (Heimfeigr)

You immediately see there are a lot of perks missing for the Heimfeigr.esp Cause they arent

there in the original skyrim for the dragonpriest.

You can do the same for new creatures. But you have to find them, cause they doesnt conflict.

(Turn off the filter, cause it wont be visible otherwise) And compare them with similar

creatures (ctrl + c/ctrl + v works for copying, cause you cant drag/drop in this case)

Not recommend for creature overhaul mods, they mostly already have a patch somewhere. But

it works for quest mods that adds a few enemies.

Tip: You can open 2 windows of Tes5Edit at once. Just be sure to only edit in 1 of them.

Otherwise it can cause confusion, and sometimes it doesnt safe properly if you are editing in

both. But it does make a backup with the changes somewhere iirc.

Example 3: New follower (Sofia)

I compared sofia with a light armored follower that requiem altered. I added the same perks

(the alchemy and perkskillboost are from Requiem Hard times)

And lowered the skill values. I noticed they are almost always 10 levels lower.

Example 4: Multiple factions (falskaar undeath marriable Serana)

This is pretty straightforward. To make the every mod works properly, I just added all the

factions in one esp I know the patch is called requiem conflict, and has nothing to do with

requiem.

Example: 5: Equipment for NPC (Immersive weapons)

If you use multiple mods, even their patches can start to conflict. I have Immersive weapons,

and Ethereal elves. Both have a requiem patch. But the patch for Ethereal elves is loaded later,

so the npc wont have the sword if I dont add it.

Changing the load order will solve this also, but you wont have the changes ethereal elves

made to the look. If the load order was reverted, adding these changes will solve it too:

This is actually a good example from what I said in the intro Note: You will probably notice

there are MANY conflicts between your mods. But if you have a good load order, and didnt

picked mods that will clash in many ways. Then you should be fine with only patching the mods you

know that needs them. Its a minor conflict and only 1 thing will revert back to default,

depending on your load order.

A word of Appreciation

Thank you if you made it this far. I hope you learned something and can make your game

more to your liking. I tried my best to make this guide informative, understandable for

everyone, without wall of texst. I wasnt really succesfull in that. But I dont think I could make it

better.

For now, nobody else helped with the guide then myself (Zrynoth)

But I still want to thank Arthmoor which I found several useful information from around the

nexus.

And Missjennabee for a usefull guide to merge patches. But this also give me a better insight

of Tes5Edit. Link to guide: http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?showtopic=1775296

Also the makers of skyrim, Tes5Edit, Wrye bash, LOOT ofcourse :p

But if you found any ideas, improvement, lay-out, errors (also grammatical, English isnt my

mother language) feel free to tell me

How? I actually dont know. Im not really planning to post it on many places. Most likely I

just posted it if asked for it, so responds back then. Or mail to Zrynoth@hotmail.com (Im not

really active on this account though)

Just so that I certainly wont spread wrong information.