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InformationandListeningSessionsonProposedCo-location:SummaryofCongregantFeedbackAprilandMay2019
FirstUniversalistChurchofMinneapolis23May2019
ExecutiveSummaryThisreportsummarizesthecongregantinputprovidedatCongregantInformationandListeningSessionsaboutproposedco-locationwithShirTikvahheldonApril15,April25,May2,May8,andMay19.AninformationandlisteningsessionfortheRacialJusticeEducationTeam,FaithfulActionCouncilandBelovedConversationsparticipantswasheldonMay14;thisgroupaskedthattheirfeedbackstandaloneandissummarizedinaseparatereport(alsoavailableundertheco-locationtabonourwebsite).Inputfocusedonjoysandexcitementaboutco-location,concerns,remainingquestions,andpossiblesolutionstoconcerns,aswellasexcitementaboutremainingindependentanddisappointmentsifwechosetoremainindependent.InformationfromboththeFeedbackFormsandtheworkshopactivity(postedhalfsheets)isincludedinthesummary.TheFeedbackFormratingsondegreeofsupportfortheco-locationproposalarealsosummarizedandincluderatingsfromallsixsessions.Keythemesandratingsaresummarizedbelow.TheDetailedReportprovidesalloftheverbatimcommentsfromcongregantsgroupedbythemewithineachcategory.JoysandExcitementaboutpotentialCo-location
• Boldvision;excitingnewpossibilities;desiretobecomeabravespace• OpportunitytoliveourUUvalues:collaboration,community,racialandsocial
justice• AlliancewithaJewishcongregationoffersopportunityformulticulturallearning
andopportunitytostandwithShirTikvahagainstanti-Semitism• Relationshipandcommunitywithanorganizationwhosharesourvalues• Decreasedimpactontheenvironment• Newpossibilitiesforourbuildingspace;excitementaboutthethirdfloor• Positivefinancialimpactwithafinancialpartner• Capabilityandcommitmentofthoseinvolvedinplanningforco-location
ConcernsaboutCo-location
• Logistics:difficultywithsharingspacescheduling• Parking:impactonbothcongregantsandtheneighborhood• Potentialdistractionfromourmissiononracialjustice(RJ)• Building:safety,security,ADAconcerns,elevator• Complexityofgovernanceinaco-ownedbuilding• Lackofclarityaboutexitstrategy• Financialrisksandcomplexity• ImpactonourUUIdentityandculture
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• Generalworries/risksaboutchangeandfuturedevelopmentsExcitementaboutremainingindependent/onourown
• Clearfocusonourmission,especiallyracialjustice• Weareagoodplaceasweare• Lesscomplexityingovernanceandoperations• Maintainingautonomyandcontrol• Processhasbeenhelpfulinevaluatingandbetterinformingourownneeds• Likestatusquo;wanttominimizechangeanddisruption
Disappointmentsifwedon’tco-locate
• Lostopportunityforboldleadership,collaborationandinnovation• Lostopportunityforsharingresources• Nothirdfloor;lossofbenefitsofthirdfloortocommunityandus
PotentialSolutionstoConcernsaboutCo-location
• Continuesharinginformationandtransparencyincommunication:meetingsarewelldone;teamdrivingthisiswellinformedandopenwithinformation;keepitup
• Providemorespecificandinformation,especiallyaround:financialarrangements,thegovernancemodel,successfulexamplesofco-location,andunwindingprocess
• Charteragrouptoexploreparkingissuesandsolutionsnow• HoldmoreeventswithShirTikvahcongregantssowecangettoknoweachother• Proceedwithmoregradualco-ownershipandprenuptialagreements• Identifyexpertstohelpwithspaceandeventmanagementanddisputeresolution• Ensureflexibilityinbuildingspace
SummaryofRatingsonFeedbackForms*Whatareyourthoughtsrightnowaboutco-locationwithShirTikvah?
Numberofresponses
%ofTotal
Iamenthusiasticaboutco-location. 33 23%Iamsupportiveofco-location. 45 32%Iamundecided 38 27%Ileantowardremainingonourown. 20 14%Iamnotinfavorofco-location 6 4%Total 142 100%*IncludesratingsonFeedbackFormsfromallsessions(4/15;4/25;5/2;5/8;5/14;5/19).Continuingquestionsaboutco-locationManyofthequestionedraisedbycongregantsareansweredintheFAQsabutco-locationandaboutShirTikvah,availableonourwebsiteundertheco-locationtab.Wewillcontinuetoupdatethesedocuments.
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Allofthequestionsraisedbycongregantsaresummarizedinthedetailedsection.FollowingisasummaryofsomeofthekeyquestionsraisedinthesessionsthattheSteeringCommitteewillcontinuetoaddress:
• Howdowemakesureco-locationfurthersourracialjusticemissionandisnotadistraction?
• Whatisthetimelinefordecisionmaking?• Whatistheconstructiontimelineandhowwouldwemanagethedisruptionof
construction?Will1UbeatSTduringremodeling?• Whataretheimplicationsofthelostcapitalcampaigngift?• Whatexactlywouldtherenovatedbuildinglooklike?Howmuchmorespacewould
wehave?Whataretherequirementsforsharingthekitchen?• Whatprovisionswouldbemadeforincreasedsecurity?• Specifically,howmuchwouldeachcongregationcontributetotherenovation?How
wouldequitybeassigned?• WhatwouldbethefunctionsoftheNewEntityBoardandhowwoulditworkin
practice?• Howwillschedulingandeventplanningbemanaged?Whataretheguidelinesfor
doingso?• Whatwouldbetheprocessforunwinding?• Whatwouldbetheprocessfordisputeresolution?• Whatdoesitmeantoenteracovenantalrelationship?Whatculturalshiftsdowe
needtomake?• Howdowemitigatetheparkingissues?• Howandwhendowebestinvolvetheneighborhood?
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DETAILEDREPORTThissectionincludesalloftheverbatimwrittencommentsfromthecongregantswhoparticipatedintheInformationandListeningSessionsonApril15,April25,May2,May8,andMay19.Thecommentsaregroupedintothemeswithineachcategory,butnoresponseshavebeenleftout.ThereportfromtheracialjusticefocusedgrouponMay14issummarizedinanotherreportasrequestedbythegroup.Tableofcontentsforthissection: Page JoysandExcitementaboutpotentialco-location 4 Concernsaboutpotentialco-location 8Excitementaboutremainingonourown 14Disappointmentsifwedon’tco-locate 16Suggestions/solutionstoaddressconcernsaboutco-location 18Questionsaboutpotentialco-location 21JoysandExcitementaboutPossibleCo-locationBoldvisionandnewpossibilities
• Thepossibilities/potential/newopportunities(6responses)• Modelsrisktakingandinnovativethinking• Excitingmerging2progressivecongregationsandtheopportunitiesitallows• Synergy,groundbreaking,nowisthetimetodosomethingbig• Wewouldbedoingsomethingboldandexciting,likewehopetoliveourlives• Boldideaandsupportsmyvalues• Expansionofopportunitiestomeetnewanddifferentpeopleandideas• Anewwayofdoingthingswithadifferentgroup• Bravespace;bravestatementofvalues• Braveandinspiringvision• Co-locationbuildsexcitement• Intellectualexcitementandvigor• Modelofgovernancethatisunusual
Opportunitytoliveourvalues:collaboration,communityandracial/socialjustice
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• Longterm,itwillbeavisionforthefuture,avisionofcooperation• Possibilityofcreatingadifferentfuture,especiallyanti-racism• Avisionofnewsynergyandenergytoaddresssocialjusticeandcommunityissues–
bigbridgebuilding• Alliesonsharedvaluesandvisions• SupportingourRacialJusticework,visionofsharedjusticework• Modelingsharingformykids• Possibleincreaseofspiritualuniversalism• OpportunitytoliveourUUvaluesandamplifyinstate,nationalissues• Expandingourcovenantalcommunityandpracticingitinnewandrealways• Puttingourmoneywhereourmouthsare.Radicalexpressionofenactingoutour
values• Livingourvalues(3responses)• Synergyofenergyforsocialjusticeandcommunityengagement• SocialJusticevision• Joiningforcestobeastrongervoiceinthecommunity• Potentialforgreateradvocacywith2groups/religiousorganizationsfocusedon
similarjustice/spiritualissues• Co-programmingforfaithfulactionwork;“criticalmass”largecongregationsoffer
forcommunityimpact• Creatingabetterspaceforbothgroupstocreatecommunityanddosocialjustice• Beingamodeltothelargerworldforhowtocometogetherandhavenewwaysto
beinacommunity• Synergies• Wehaveanaffirmingvoiceinanincreasinglynegative,tearfultime• Co-locfitswiththeconceptofuniversalism• Sharedgoals,sharedvalues;sharingwithincommunities• Alargervoicewithactionstofurtheroursharedjusticevisionsbycombiningforces• Livingintoourvalues;makingapositivestatement/actioninatroubledtime• Chancetolivecollaboratively–greatlessontopassontoourchildrenandyoung
people.• Expandingmyexposuretoreligioustraditions;expandedhorizonintoanotherfaith
community• Increasecommitmenttocombatdiscriminationandsocialjustice• Moremissiondrivenworkwithfreedupfunds• Justicepartners;opportunitiesforjointprogramming• Potentialco-effortsforsocialjustice,RJ,environmentalaction• Politicalstatement• Progressivepartnership;increasedunderstanding;whatnewpartnershipcanbring
AlliancewithJewishcongregationoffersmulticulturallearningandstandagainstanti-Semitism
• ExpansionofourlegacyofalliancewithJewsinMinneapolis• ContinuesourhistoricalliancewithJewishcommunity
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• Movestowardbreakingdowntribalism• Standagainstanti-Semitismxx• Tangiblesupportinananti-Semiticera• Relationshipbuildingacrossreligiousdifferences• GettingtoknowaJewishcommunity• CoaxourpointofviewandoutsideofourcurrentmindsettowelcomeJewish
congregation• Religiousinstitutionparticipationmakessense• Ecumenicalnatureofthisisgood• Modelingcoexistencebetweenreligions;culturalexchangewithaJewish
congregation• Progressivemulticulturallifeenhancingpartnership• Exposuretoanothertradition;interactionwithJewishcommunity• JusticeimplicationscohabitingwithJewishcommunity• Eventstogether(4responses)• SynergywithSTmembers,newpeoplewithnewideasdifferentideas• Visiblesupportofasynagogueinagrowinganti-Semiticera• Culturalsharingandunderstanding,activestanceofsolidarityinrisinganti-
Semitism• Makingalargerentitythatstandsfortoleranceandaffirmationofotherfaiths• Learningaboutanothercultureandreligionincludingmusic• Gettingtoknownewpeoplenewtraditions• Culturalenrichment• SynergywithaliberalJewishcongregation• Itjustfeelslikeanexpanding/cominghome,goodpossibility• Thesymbolicgift–therealopportunitytolearnfromthem• Theopportunitytolearnmoreabout“theother”• Theideaofhealingoldwoundsaboutanti-Semitism• Counter-culturalnatureofco-location• StandingwithourJewishneighbors• Partneringwithanothercongregationtoaddressanti-Semitismandwhite
supremacyandislamophobia• Culturalenrichment• Jewishcommunityreconnectingwiththeirrootsinthespace• SupportingourJewishcommunityandstrengtheningourpartnership• Opportunitytoexperienceanothersystemoffaithandpractice• Authenticanddirectactionagainstanti-Semitism• SJgrowth,crossculturalgrowth• StandinginsolidarityforSJ,peace,deepencrossculturalandreligious
understanding• LearningmoreaboutJudaismandopinionsonIsrael/Palestineconflicts• BuildingacloserrelationshipwithaprogressiveJewishcongregation;new
perspectives,questions,relationships• Interesting,educational,funintersection
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• Thetwobodiesofworshipcouldfinallybehometogetherinonebuilding• Politicalstatement• Experiencedifferentworshipstyleandfaith,morehumanityanddiversity,coming
hometogether• Deeperunderstandingofdiscriminationduetoreligiousbeliefs• Directauthenticstatementagainstanti-Semitism• GettingtoknowJewishvaluesandJudaismincloseproximity;“shouldertoshoulder
embracing”• Cross-culturallearningandgrowth
Opportunitytobuildrelationshipandcommunitywithanorganizationwhosharesourvalues
• Challengingourselvestobuildarelationshipacrossdifference• Aninvigoratingpartnership• Largerimpactwithtwocongregationswithsimilarvision• Strongercommunity,greatercommunity,expandingourcommunity• Jointlyworkingonissuesandlearning• Havingsharedvalues;sharedvaluesmadepublic(3responses)• Closelyrelatedsharedvision• Increasingtolerance• Possibilityofsharingactivities,ideaswithanothercongregation(2responses)• Sharingwithnewpeopleandnewreligion• Modelingacoexistence–morethantwocongregations• Theyseemlikenicepeople• Possibilitiesforprogrammingforsharedvalues• Alliesonsharedvaluesandvisions• Integrationoftwocongregations• Note:Severalcommentsfromthosenotleaningtowardco-locationstated
theywouldwanttocontinuearelationshipwithShirTikvah.Lessonourimpactontheenvironment
• Environmentalimpact;lessimpactonenvironment;smallerfootprint(8responses)• Makesenvironmentalsense(2responses)• Moreenvironmentallyfriendly• Ourworldisover-built.Ourresourcesremainvacantandunused.Let’sshare
resourcesandallkindofwealth.• Sharingspace;usingspacemoreefficientlyfortheenvironment• Morecompleteuseofbuilding–betterenvironmentalfootprint• Strongervoiceinfaithfulactionworkonenvironmentaljusticexxx• Environmentaladvantage,maximumuseofresources• Sparingtheenvironment;usingthislargebehemothofabuildingmorethanitis
beingusednowNewPossibilitiesforourBuildingSpace
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• 3rdfloorspaceandopportunities(19responses)• MorespaceforactivitiesIlikehere• Opportunitiesofarenewedbuildingspace• Opportunitiesthatcomewithalarger,dynamic,newandexpandedfacility• Betteruseofspacethatisotherwisenotusedattimes• Thatourtwocongregationswillagreeonkitchenrenovations• Ourbuildingwillbekeptcleanandingoodrepair• Sharedexpensesthathelpsoursecurity• Chancetocreateafacilitythatwillbettermeetourneedsforalongtietocome• Improvedfacilities(twocomments),includingbathrooms• MoreclassroomsforRE(2responses)• Utilizingphysicalspacetoitsmaximuminanerawhenwehavetopracticeresource
managementandsustainability• Improvedaccessibility
PositiveFinancialImpact
• Financialpartnertohelptakecareofourbuilding(4responses)• Makesfinancialsense;economicadvantages;strengthensourfinancialposition(6
responses)• Financialadvantages–canaffordmoreexpansion• Increasingfinancialsecurity(4responses)• Savingmoneyonoperatingcosts• Reducingouroperatingcosts(3responses)• Sharedresource,sharingexpenses(4responses)• Moreresourcestohelpwithmaintainingthislargestructure• Strengthenbothcongregationsbyreducingoperatingexpenseseachcarry
independentlytodayCapabilityandCommitmentofthoseinvolved
• Ourpeopleinvolvedareverycapableandcommitted• Commitmentofpeopleworkingoncommitteestomakethisopportunityhappen• Theforward-thinkingstaffwhodreamedupthisidea• Thoughtfuldecisionmaking;Icantrusttheprocessmore
CONCERNSLogistics,sharingspace,scheduling
• Logistics,spaceuse,scheduling,coordinating(15responses)• Concernaboutuseandsharingofkitchen;currentarrangementwithtenantshas
beenasourceoffrustrationformany;howwouldtheseissuesbeaddressedinapartnership?(3responses)
• Competitionforthirdfloor• Howrealisticisittothinktwolarge,activecongregationscanmakethescheduling
andlogisticswork?• Communication,evenwithgoodintentions
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• Ifwecan’tfixtheleakingtoiletsandkeepthekitchencleanonourown,howarewegoingtohandle/dealwiththeordinaryadministrationandmanagementoftheplaceinamorecomplexarrangement?
• Concernaboutrituals,overnights,smallgroupsmeetings–asbothcongregationsgrow,isthereenoughspace?
• Dowehaveenoughspaceformeetings,circles,choir,etc.forbothcongregationsduringtheweek?
• Bringingmorecongregantstothechurch• Confusion-whogetswhatroomwhen?How?Whodecides?(2responses)• Toocomplicatedintermsofscheduling,space,coordination,• Competingforresources–schedulingactivitiesandevents• Thatexpertlogisticsandspaceuseandexpectationsofeventswillnotbeaddressed.
Italreadydisappoints.• Hopingtheschedulingisnotimpossible• REsharingspace;STREmeetsonSunday,RESundayclasstimeconflict(NOTE:Shir
TikvahhasagreedtomovetheirSundayREtoSatam)• Wouldsharingbeaburdentostaff• Cumulativeannoyanceofexperiencingroomschedulingconflicts,especiallyforthe
kitchenandsocialhall• Concernedabouteventmanagementandspaceplanningandwhetherthestaffhave
enoughexpertisetohandletheincreaseddemandandlogistics• ConflictswithREuseofsamespaceatsametime–howtoresolve?• Shrinkageduetoculturalandschedulingconflicts• Howdoweallfit?Howdoesgrowthfitinsharedspace?Howlongisthisviable
basedonhistoricandprojectedgrowthpatterns?• Sanctuaryeventsandceremonies;weddingsandmemorials(potentialconflicts)• Eventcollisions• FridayandSaturdaybuildingavailability• Hastherebeenastudyofhowmanyroomswehaveandhowmuchwe/theyuse
eachdayweek?• Isthereroomtogrow?• WhatwouldhappentoAUW(spaceneeds)• Isthereenoughofficespace?• WearealreadyfullonSundaymornings–thiswon’tmakethesanctuarybiggerand
limitsoptionsformoreservicetimes.6thgradeovernightlastweekendwasoverbookedandthishappensalot.
Parkingandimpactonneighborhood
• Parking(26responses)• Parkingwithkids• Bringingmorecongregantstothechurch• Needtoaddresshandicapaccessibility• Impactonneighborhood(4responses)• Doesn’tsolvetheparkingissue
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• Neighborhoodassociationimposingresident–onlyparkingzones(3responses)• ConcernedthatCARAGwillbeopposedandimposeresidentonlyparking
restrictions• ParkingonWednesdaywhentheyhaveHebrewschool• Shuttle?Organizedcarpooling?• Couldwebadlyaffectneighbors,especiallyparking?• Wearealreadylimitedbyparking;addingmorespaceinsidedoesnotincrease
capacityforparking.• Devilisinthedetails.Parkingisahugeproblem.IfIcan’tfindclosepartingona
Wednesdaynight,itwillnotbesafeformeasasinglewomantowalktomycarafterchoirpractice.
• Needaconcreteplanforparkingbeforecommitmenttoco-location• Workingoutconflictswithspace• Timeandspaceandparkingforcrossoverevents
BuildingIssues
• SafetyandSecurity(3comments)• Safetyandsecurityinlightofincreasinganti-Semitism• ADAconcerns• Expandingexistingelevatorisexpensiveandproblematicforeldersanddisabled• Elevatoruse/outofserviceformanymonthsduringconstruction• Timeframeofdisruptionandeffects• Sanctuaryisstillunderutilized• UseandartdisplayintheSocialHall• HVACsystemforsanctuaryandwholebuilding;needconstructionthatsolves
heating/coolingissues• Bathroomsneedrenovation;bathroomsaredisgustingtoinvitethewider
communityinto• Makingsurebuildingisaccessibleandinvitingtopeoplewithdisabilities• Notabigenoughfootprintnowandinthefuture(2responses)
ComplexityofGovernanceandOperationsinaco-ownedbuilding
• Co-ownershipfinanciallyanddecisionmaking;whodecideswhattodowhentherearedifferentviewpointsaboutwhattobuild,whattomaintain,whatcolorstopaintthewalls,etc.
• Complexity(4responses)• Governance–twoBoardsandasuper(NewEntity)board• Lackofspecificsaboutbudgets• Complexitydetractsfromfocusonmission• Createsanotherlevelofauthority.• LossofAutonomy(2responses)• Risksofco-ownership• Greatercomplexityofdecisionmaking• Difficultyofco-ownership:financialissuesandspacesharing
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• Managingownershipofassetsandoperatingcostallocation• Methodforconflictresolution• Costandcomplexityofcreatingandmaintainingthe“newentity”• Faithin50/50governancevs.variableassetvalue• Consensusisavaguedecisionmethod• Deadlockatthe50/50Boardlevel• Financial/legalseemsvague• Givinguphalfownershipinbuildingfinancessoundsunrealistic;concernabout
addingalevelofbureaucracy• Addedgovernancedemandsinanerawhenfindinggovernancevolunteersseems
moredifficult• Congregantswithstrongopinionswhostrugglewithrelationshipframeofdecision
makingandconflictresolution• Transferownership–substantialriskandcomplexrelationship• Concernregardingcontinuityofrelationship• Whatifwedisagreeonacriticalpoliticalissue?
ExitStrategy
• Waytounwindtherelationshipifitdoesn’tworkout(4responses)• Whathappensifonepartywantsout?• Whogetsthebuildingifco-locationendsatanypoint?• Riskto1Uifthingsdon’tworkout• Developmentoffactionalismandfinancialproblemsinanunwind• Concernthatthishasnotyetbeenfullyaddressed/answered• Ifco-locationdoesn’twork,whokeepsthebuilding?(2responses)• Whathappenstobuildingownershipifamutualunwindingoccursbutboth
congregationswanttokeeptheco-ownedbuilding?Definethatriskpossibilityandcontingencyplan.
• TwodynamiccongregationsmightoutgrowthespaceFocusonco-locationcoulddistractusfromourmission
• Ourbuildingandparkingsituationdonotallowthesuccessfulaccomplishmentofourvision,evenwithco-location
• Doesco-locationstrengthenorweakenourmission,especiallyRJ?• HowtopreserveourvalueofracialjusticewithagroupwithaZionistelement• Focusandenergyofthe“bravespace”andRJinitiativesbeyondSTwillbelostinthe
focusonco-loc• Willitdistractfromourmission?Potentialdistractionfrommission(two
responses)• Wearen’tbeingradicalenoughandaddressingstructuralracismdirectly• Narrowingofourculturalandjusticefocusbecauseofthedemandsofco-
loc/excludingracialjusticeandIslamconnections• Willourbuildingbesofilledthatwewillbelessabletoinvitecommunityeventsin?• VisionforCapitalCampaignatFirstUdoesnotequalournewvision.
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• Willthisfurtherourracialjusticemission?• PublicappearanceoftheIslamicschoolvanishingandJewishcongregationmoving
in.WeneedtobeverymindfulofworkingagainstIslamophobia.Ourownanti-Semitism
• UU’sbenignanti-Semitismneedstobeaddresses• Confrontingourownanti-SemitismandattitudesaboutIsraelandPalestine• Levelofanti-Semitisminourcongregation• Doesn’taddressinternalanti-Semitism
Difficultprocesstomakeithappen;processofdecisionmaking
• Willtakelotsofmoney,time,confusion,people• Burnoutontheplannersofaverycomplexprocess• Disruptiontoourspacewhilewegothroughrenovations• Howtoparticipateduringconstruction• Buy-inofourowncongregation• Disruptionstotimeframe• Timeandenergytomakeithappenandonanongoingbasis• Willamajorityofmorethan50%berequiredtogoforward?Myconcernisthatif
wedon’thaveabigmajorityonbothsides,itwon’twork.• Shrinkageduringconstruction• Arewestrongenoughtotakethison?• Leadership“pulling”acongregationthatisnotonboard.Wordatthewatercooler
is“whyarewedoingthis?”• Communicationtoeachcongregation• Thatwestillseemtohavelotsofquestionsandfewanswersandthatinthepublic
discussions,wehavenotfocusedtheconversationonwhatarethe“makeorbreak”issues–e.g.,howdoweunwindtherelationshipwhenneedschangeinthefuture?
• Ourcapacitytobalancemovingforwardandreflection–Iworryaboutlosinglong-timememberswithresources
• TimelineforviabilityofthiscampaignFinancialrisks• Financialrisksandissues(2responses)• Money• Nodetailedinformationonmoneyorprograms• Committingtoongoingfinancialobligationsthatwecannotmeetonourown.Ihope
therewillbeadetailedplanonhowtominimizefinancialrisk.• Financeanddetailsseembasedonoptimisticthinkingnotcriticalthinking.• Thatfinancialagreementsarefairtobothcongregations.DoesShirTikvahhavethe
financialresourcestobeafullpartner?• Financialsavingsneedtobesignificantenoughtojustifysomeofthechallengesand
sacrifices.• Money–howcertainisthefutureofmoney?
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• Toocomplicatedintermsoffinances• Notmaking50/50financialinvestments(2responses)• Whatdoeslossof1Mincapitalcampaignmean?(2responses)• Whathappenswithabudgetshortfall?• Possibilityofincreasedinequalityofabilitytomaintainequalsupportoffacility
throughgrowthordecreasesofcongregation• WhatifSTbuildingfailstosell?
ImpactonourUUIdentityandculture
• ImpactonUUidentity–especiallyvisuals,art,aestheticsinsanctuaryandRErooms.ItMatterstofeelUUhereandknowourUUidentity.
• MaintainingourUUidentityinthesanctuary• Culturalclashes• MaintenanceofaclearphilosophicaldifferencebetweenUUismandJudaism• Roommateproblems• Childrenandprospectivenewmembers:amIaUUorJewish?
Generalworries/risksaboutchangeandfuturecircumstances
• Wemaylosesomepeople• Therisks,time,energyallthethingsthatcangowrong• Practicalityofthiscampaign• Generaluneaseaboutchange• Rosecoloredglassesofearlystagedating?• Don’twanttoseechurchfallapartlikeithasbefore• Co-locationnowplacescertainlimitationsandcontingenciesonfuturegenerations
whethertheywantitornot.• WillwehaveironcladguaranteefromCityofMplstogoforwardwithconstruction
beforeagreementwithST?• Membershipdecreasesineitherorbothorganizations• Willthisactuallyallowourcongregationtogrow?Isthereroomforexpansion?• Something“bad”happensthatwasoverlooked,legallyorotherwise• Potentialunevennessinmembershipandresources• WhenSeniorleadershipchanges,willthecommitmentstaythesame?• Renovated3rdfloorwillbecomego-tospace.Peoplewillseesuchastyleofchurch
asanencumbrance• Willweshiftourcongregationalemphasisawayfromthishugeundertakingina
coupleyearsaswehavedonewith“thehousethatlovebuilt”emphasisto“onepercent”to“racialjustice”tothis?
• IfSTgrowsoutofproposed3rdfloorspace,thenwhat?• Palestinepolitics• Themvs.Usthinking• Loosingmembersbecauseofchallenges;whowillwenotbecaringfor?Whowillbe
lost?
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• Riskandlong-termdisputes.ImovedherefromanotherUUcongregation…Theyhadfailedtokeeptheircontractsup-to-dateforseveralyearswhichlefthugevulnerabilitywhentherewasafallingoutwithaministeryearslater.Wemustbereadyforlongtermcommitment.
• LongtermviabilityWHATISEXCITINGABOUTMOVINGFORWARDONOUROWN(WITHOUTCO-LOCATION)Clearfocusonourmission,especiallyRacialJustice
• Useenergytofocusmoreonracialjusticewithlesswork• Clarityinracialjusticeworkandmission• Capacitytofocuson1stU• Continuingtheracialjusticeworkwithourvision• Allourenergygetsfocusedonthingswealreadyagreeupon• WearemovingforwardwithKarenHutttodiversifyourofferings• Abilitytocompletelycontrolourvisionanditsimplementation• Moreopportunitiestoconnecttoothergroups• Abilitytogrowasafaithcommunitywithfewerconstraints• Possibilityofexploringco-locationwithablackchurch• Fullenergyofstaffandministersfocusedonmission,lessadministrativeenergy
spentonverycomplexlegalandfinancialissues• Potentialforgrowthcontinues• Maintainingaclearidentity• Lessresourcesbeingputtowardsco-location• Inputandinterestofeveryone• Wehaveresourcestodomostofcapitalcampaignprojects• Generatingmorevariedjusticeandbravespacepossibilities• Gettingmoreinvolvedwithracialequityandenvironmentalissues;youdon’twant
tosqueezeoutgroupsthatwearealreadyworkingwith–Nativegroup,SanctuaryandResistance
• Continued/expandedsocialjustice• Beingabletofocusonourownmissionandneedsshouldbetoppriority• Notexcitedtostayonourown,butwanttoexpandprogramswhichIfearco-
locationwouldlimitMaintainingautonomyandcontrol
• Independenceandflexibility(tworesponses)• Flexibilityinpursuingourgrowth• 1Uhastotalcontrol;completecontroloverourdestinyandlong-termfuture• Simplerandcompleteindependence• Freedomtomakeourowndecisions;ourcapacitytocontrolourowndestiny• Controlofourspace
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• Abilitytorespondandgrowasweseebestinresponsetotheunknownandunknowablefuturedevelopments
• Control• Stillhavetheopportunitytomakechangesinthebuilding• Updatedbuildingmaybeevenakitchenre-do• Thatwecanassureourselvesthatthefacility/programmingmeetsourneeds
subjectonlytoourresources/limitations• Gettingfullcontrolovernewspaces;lowerriskofabigshake-up• Makingthebuildingourown• Maintain100%controlandhavingfulldecision-makingauthority• Havingtheindependenceandflexibilitytodowhatweneed• Wecanchartourownfuture;wewon’tbestuckowning50%ofbuilding• Wewouldkeepouridentitymoreindependent• Reestablishingourownculture
Weareagoodplaceasweare;likestatusquo
• Thisisalreadyagoodplace• Wewillbefine,fortimesweshallsee• Wewillbefineeitherway• Needsaremet• Wearedoingwellnow–Idon’tseeanysignificantchangesifwedon’tco-locate• Weareagreatplacetobealready• Ilovethischurchandwillbeherenomatterwhat• Statusquo,lessturmoilandanxiety• Keepingthingsfamiliar,nostartlingchanges• Ilovethischurchandwouldbehappytogoitalone,evenifitmeansscalingbackon
programming• Myfeelingofjoyatbeinginmyhomechurchwouldbecomemuchmorecomplete• Weareonagoodpath–continuingandincreasingourcommitmenttoourmission
andgrowthLesscomplexityingovernanceandoperations;lessrisk
• Lessworkandcomplexity• Relievestimeandenergytobeusedonotherthings• Easierandsimple• Lesscomplicated• Lesshasslenegotiatingwithothers• Havingmoretimeandenergytopursueourgoalswithoutenergybeingtakento
managespaceissues• Lesscomplicateddecisionmaking,lesscomplicatedfeelingofbeinginmyspiritual
homewithmycovenantedfellowjourneyers• Nothavingtoblendoperationsandlegalstructures• Itseemssaferandmorerealisticbuttheproblemswiththebuilding,fundingand
membershipgrowthremain
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• Eliminaterisk• Nothavingtoworryaboutco-locationissuesandconcerns• Simpleradministration• Fewerlogisticalproblemstosolve• Lessneedtocollaborate;lessconflict• Havingspaceweneed(evenwithout3rdfloor);nothavingthestressofsharing,not
makingparkingevenworse• Lessrisk;lessstressfultonotfacerisksassociatedwithco-location.
Processhasbeenhelpful
• Thediscussionsareenergizing• Thisprocesswilldeepenandbetterinformourownneeds• Wehaveevaluatedanddiscussedsome(inthesteeringcommittee)everyaspectof
howweoperatOther
• PossiblerelocationtobrandnewsiteatLakeandNicollet–parkingaddresses• Sogladwe’vepaidoffthemortgageandalreadyimprovedaccessibilityinsanctuary• Everything• Iwouldprefertoco-locate.Notexcitedaboutgoingonalone
DISSAPOINTMENTSIFWEDON’TCO-LOCATELostOpportunityforboldleadership,collaboration,andinnovation
• Loosingalltheopportunitiesweareexcitedabout(9responses)• LostopportunitytobecomealeaderwithinourUUcommunity• Lostopportunitytoenlargeandexpandthemissionof1U• Missedopportunitytoseizethemomentforaboldmove• Missedopportunitytodosomethinggreatandstrengthenourministrytothe
community• Ifweletourconcernsaboutparkingandlogisticspreventusfromengaginginthis
amazingopportunity,Iwillbeverydisappointed• Missedopportunitytochallengeourselvesandgrow• Missedopportunitytobeanexampleofreligiousorganizationsworkingtogether
andbeingvisibletoourcommunity,city,etc.• Inabilitytoshowreligioustolerancetothoseinourextendedcommunity• Lossofopportunitytocreateadifferentfuture• Missedopportunitytolivemorefullyintoourvalues• Missingachancetomakeapowerfulstatement• Achancetobereallyinnovative• Agreatadventurethatdidn’thappen• Wewillhavelostanopportunitytobebetter• Ifnotco-location,whatisnext?• Impactonrelationshipwiththiscommunityandremainingspace-hogs• Theboldnessandexcitementofpossibilitieswouldbelost
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• Sameold,sameold• Continuedspacepressureshere• Thatwedidn’ttryoutthenewmodel;notexperiencinganewmodel• Itmayfeellikealotofworkresultinginalossofpossibility• Ourfailureofcourage• Finallysoundsgoodespeciallyafterlosingamajordonor• Notbuildingonalltheinformationthathasbeengatheredsofar• Lostopportunityforlearning• Missedopportunitybothrealandsymbolic• Chancetoexperiencenewandexcitingperspectiveandenergy• Chancetobeeducated,tolearnandpracticenewalliancesandsupportnewwaysto
addresssignificantconcerns• Weloseoutonamorediverseexperience• Wewillhavelosttheopportunitytoengagewithanothergroupwhohasasimilar
vision• LossofdirectsupporttoJewishcongregation• Missingoutonsocialjustice• Stagnationispossible• Lostchancetodeepenrelationships
Lostopportunityforsharingresources
• Financialstrain,lossoffinancialgainsintheexpansion• Missedopportunitytocohabit,collaborate,shareresources• Lostthepossibilityofcombiningresources• Nothavingafinancialpartnertotakecareofthisbuilding• LosingthepossibilityofrelationshipwithShirTikvah• Loosingopportunitytodecreaseenvironmentalimpact• Missedopportunitiesforsharedexperiences,lossofcross-culturalsharing• Lossoffinancialbenefits;longtimefinancialchallenges;chancetolowercosts
Nothirdfloor
• Nothirdfloor(8responses)• Nothaving3rdfloorandchancetoofferthattothecommunity• NothavingelevatortoArchesroom,balcony,etc.• Maynotgetenoughrenovationsdone• Loseoutonamoreworkablefacility
Other
• Impactsonthosesoexcitedaboutthepriorityofco-location• IhavethreefamilymemberswhoaremembersofShirTikvahandhavewitnessed
thepositiveenergyofthecongregation.Theyarevisionary.• Thetimeandeffortwecouldhaveusedtomoveforwardmorequickly• WanttostillpartnerwithShirTikvah
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• Wouldliketoworkcloselywiththemonmutualunderstandingandjointsocialjusticework
• Dependsonwhatitisthatmakesusnotchooseco-locationSUGGESTIONS/SOLUTIONSTOADDRESSCONCERNSContinueSharingInformationandOpenCommunication
• Continuethefeedbacksessions• Keepofferingupdatesanddiscussions• ThesenseIgotfromtoday’spresentationistherearededicated,competentpeople
workingonthis.Itrustyoutotakecareofdetails.Thiswasechoedatourtableandatanothertable.Keepdoingwhatyouaredoingaroundthis.
• Theteamiswell-informedandopenwithinformation• Greatfaithinthepeopledrivingthis• What’sbeingdoneisgreat!Keepuptheinfosharingandgoodtransparency• Continueddialogueandtransparency• Continuetomoveforwardslowlyforbothcongregationsthisisgreatdiscernment.
Thisisanimportantdecisionwithlonglastingimplicationsforthenextgenerations.• Ihopethebestfortheco-locprocess• Treatthislikestrategicplanningsothatitbecomesaclearpartofourmission–Shir
Tikvahornot.Clarifynextsteps.• If75%ofthecongregationvotesforco-locationitwillbegreat• Allowactualdiscussionsratherthanstructuredsmallgroupsessions• Considerspending3to5yearslayingthegroundworkforthiseffort• Don’trushthedecision–makesurequestionsarediscussedandanswered• Combinedboardwillbegoodforissueresolution• Keepdoingthesesessions• Thissessionmovedmefromneutraltosupportive.Itisreassuringthatthisisa
thoroughprocess.• Havemoreopenmeetings–thisonewasdonesowell• Moretimetothinkaboutitandtalkwithothers–Ineedtodosomeofthismyself• Moretimeforthemembersofbothcongregationstoexplore.Thesteeringteams
andJenaredoingwonderfulwork,butitwon’tcometofruitionwithoutthemajorityofcongregantsbuyingin.
• Thiswasaverygoodsession.Thankyou!• Continuewithwhatyouaredoing-communicate.• Continuecommunicatingallthatyouhearfrommembers• Keeptalking• Keepconversationsgoing.Iknowitisnotadonedealfromthepintofviewof
eithercongregation.• Keepitup• Youguyshavedoneanamazingandthoroughjobofresearchingthis• Ongoingmonitoringprocessonprogress• Thankyouforallyourhardwork
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• Keepformingad-hocgroupstoinvestigate,coordinate,andconsultwiththevariousinterestedparties
• Perhapsattentiontobenefitsto1Ucongregantscouldhelpwiththecost/benefitanalysis
• Separatethequestions.Dowewanttoco-locate?Thecongregationneedstowrestlethisthroughthendecidetermsofco-location,thendecidewho
• Findwaystoinvolvemorecongregants;noteveryonecancometomeetingslikethis• Wemustremainflexiblewithouractionsandoursolutions• Keeptalingandfocussessionsonsolutionstopotentialproblems.Thatwillbuild
trustintheplanandbringevenmoreideastothetable.• Morelistening-sharingsessions• Continuetheopenandtransparentcommunication• Educate!• Keepbeingtransparentregardingaddressingpotentialconflicts.Thanks.• Continuediscussionforoptions• Morelong-termvisioning
Parking:remoteparkingwithshuttle;startworkingonitnow(15responses)
• Parkingisamakeorbreakdealformany.Canwegeneratesomepossiblesolutions?Startworkingontheparkingproblemnow;don’twait.Formacommitteenowtolookatissuesandsolutions.
• Startaplanforparking;sayingwe’llfigureitoutisn’tasolution.• Goodideatotalkaboutparkingneeds.Iwasaskinginthepasttoprovideinfoon
parkingoptionsotherchurcheshavedeveloped.• Parkingramp• Rideshareprogram• UsetheLakewoodCemeteryforparkingandhaveshuttlesbringcongregantsto
building• Remoteparkingwithvanorshuttle;carpooling• Whatcanwegleanorforecastabouthowtransit,rideshare,couldchangeparking
demandsespeciallyasnextgenerationisthecorepartofourcongregation(lesscar-dependent)
• AcquirepropertiesforparkingProvidemorespecificsanddetailedinformation
• Talkinginspecifictermsaboutthingsthatcouldcomeuplikeporkinthekitchen• Needmoredetailsbeforethevote• Givemorespecifics• Keepworkingallthedetails• Includemorespecificsaboutsecurityandfinances• Moreinformationonfinancesandhandlingofpotentialbreakup• Hopebyfallmorefinancialandlegaldetailsbecomeclear,realizingthatamutually
trustingelementalsoneedstoexist,asnoteverydetailcanbesetforth• Timelinesforhowlongpartsofthebuildingareoutofcommission
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• AddtotheFAQ• Addressiftheletterwereceivedexplainingourshiftingbudgethaveanimpact• Moreinformationaboutandperhapsfromthecongregationyoufoundwhoare
doingthis.CouldtheycomeandtalkonaSunday?• Showusamodelthat’sprovensuccessandwhy• HearfromAnnArborchurchleadership–maybeSundayspeaker?Todiscussthe
journeythey’vehadtogether• Shortertermfactorsconcernmelessthanlong-termissuesandexitstrategies
EquityIssues:gomoreslowly,givemoredetails
• Isthereapossibilityofamoregradualco-ownershiptoensurethattherelationshipwouldbeastronglong-termcommitment?
• PrenuptialagreementforFirstUniversalisttoretain3400Dupont• IsupportgradualequityassignmenttoShirTikvahdependingontheresourcesthey
canbringtothetable• 50/50issueaddressedearlyinprocesswithclearplan• Developaformulatore-balancecostinputifcongregationsizeschange
Governance:involveexpertstohelp
• Eachcongregationwouldpledgetoreplaceseniorleadershipwithindividualswhoembraceco-location
• Needongoingtransparentdisputeresolutionteam• Hireexpertstomanagespaceandeventmanagement• Hireamasterscheduler
IncreaseinteractionswithShirTikvah
• Havemoreinteractionofmembersonatrialbasis• IwouldliketomeetleadersandmembersofShirTikvah• Needtohearmoreco-presentationsfromSTandhowtheyviewtheprospectofco-
location• Trial“livingtogether”period–onedayperweek?• Perhapswecanpracticeworkingwitheachotherbeforeco-locatingofficially(forat
leastayear)BuildingNeeds
• Startarealestatepurchasefundnowtobereadytoexpandourfootprintwhentheopportunitypresents.Thiscouldincludeaseparatecapitalpledgefundreadytoact.
• Makesurespacecanbeusedflexiblysothatsmallandlargegroupscanmeet.Mightmeanmovablewalls
• Addelevatortosouthendandimprovedsecurity/vestibuleonsouthend• Smallerelevatorbyparkinglot.NotsureweneedanelevatortoArchesandchoir
loft.• Usemoneyfor3rdfloorrenovationtoredooursanctuarytoaccommodateboth
congregations’vision
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• Takemoretimetofundraiseandsaveforthisvision.Makesuregrowthinmembershipcontinuespast2020election
• ConsultwithHVAConsmartthermostatsystemthatintegrateswitheventschedulingtoadjustsystemswithproperleadtime
• AddressHVACissues(2responses)• Addressbathroomissues;womeninchoirneedtohave30-50womenuse4toilets
during7-minutebreak• 2ndsmallelevatorwhichholdsonepoweredwheelchairandoneperson• Extremesoundproofing.Iamparticularlyconcernedaboutourcapacitytosupport
loudchildrenAcquireadditionalFunds
• Majorfundraising• Startarealestatepurchasefundnowtobereadytoexpandourfootprintwhenthe
opportunitypresents.Thiscouldincludeaseparatecapitalpledgefundreadytoact.Supportracialjusticework
• Ensurewesharespacewithcongregationsofcolor,especiallyblack• Offerfree/reducedspaceforracialjustice• Creativewaystobuildrelationships(mediapresence)• Separateplanningandassessmentofbravespaceandracialjusticeinitiativefrom
planningorrationalizingco-location• Lookforaschooleitherwaywithorwithoutco-location• Outlineandcommittoaplanforbravespace(acrossreligionandculture)distinct
fromco-location• Developsocialjusticeworknowthatincludesbothcongregationsequally
ADDITIONALQUESTIONSNote:ManyofthesequestionsareansweredintheFAQsand/orwereansweredinthesession.FAQsaboutco-locationandaboutShirTikvaharealsofoundontheco-locationtabonourwebsite.Process/DecisionMaking/Timeline
• Howwillweknowifthisisano-go?• Howwillcontinuedtransparencybeinsured?• What’sthetimeline?WhatistimelineforSTtosell?Ifweproceed,whenwouldST
move?• Whatistheproposedtimeframeforconstructiontobecompleteeitherway?• WhathappenstoREduringconstruction?• Howwillweparticipateduringconstruction?WillwebeatSTduringremodeling?• Doweneedtoreplacethelostcapitalcampaigngiftinordertomoveforwardwith
eitherplan?
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• Howmuchcontroldoestheneighborhoodhaveoverplansforthethirdfloor?• Whatdataexiststoindicatethiswouldwork?(parking,finances,spaceuse,etc.)• Whatisthe#1reasonforthisco-locinitiative?• WhydoesSTwanttomove?
Buildingandsharedresources
• Willtherestillbeaneasyhandicapdropoffentrance?• Whatabouttheirlibrary?Oursisfull.• Withco-location,dowegainadditionalclassroomspace?• Isthekitchenrenovationstillinplans?Renovationofsocialhall?Increasing
storage?• Willtherebeincreasedneedforofficespace?Whatwouldtheeffectonstaffbe?• WhathappenedtotheideasofremodelingtheSocialHall,movingofficestoChalice
RoomArea?• Wouldthereberestrictionsonkitchensuchasservingporkorneedforkosher?• Whatconsiderationisthereabouttechnologysolutionsforthingslikeshared
schedulingwithseparatewebsites?• Willanevaluationofthecurrentmechanicalsystemsbedoneastheyarequiteold.
Whatwillbedoneforenergyefficiencyaswemoveforward?• Howmuchoftheoriginalarchitecturaldesignwillbecarriedover?• Parkingandaccessibility?• Istherealawregardingwhetherwecanexpandthe3rdfloorandaddanother
congregation?• Municipalcodes?• Permittingandzoning?• Willthe3rdfloorhaveasolarroof?• Plansforparking?• Willtherebeahandicappedtransferdropoff?• Howwillsecuritybehandled?Arethereplansforupgradingsecurity?• HowmuchmoreREspaceisthere?• Acoustics?• Howwillwehandlethedesignoftwoworshipspacesandschedulingofthespaces?
(Likechoirrehearsal)• Howdoweaddressspaceconflict?Howwillwehandleovernights?• Whatisprojectedgrowthforbothcongregations?Willweoutgrowthespace
together?• Istherestillanimmigrantsanctuary?
RacialJusticeMission
• Willthistrulyadvanceourracialjusticeadvocacy?Governance
• Whatistheadministrativefunctionoftheoversightboard?• Howwilltheadminboardsolvedisputes?
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• Why50/50representationifFirstUiscontributingmore(money)?• Wouldofficestaffmerge,orkeeptheirown?• Whatmodelshaveyouusedtodemonstratehowthismightworkornotwork?• Willtheentirebuildingbeshared?Kitchen?SocialHall?Library?• Willalldecisionsbe50/50regardlessofdifferingsizes,budgetsofthetwo
congregations?• Areadminandotherstafftobeshared?
EquityandFinance
• Howistheequityinthebuildingdividedifwecontributedifferentamounts?• DoweknowforsurethatSThasthefinancialstabilityandstrength?• Financialcapabilitytoco-locate• Whataretherealisticfinancialnumbers?• Whatisthedivisionoffundsfromeachcongregation?• HowmuchmoneyisSTbringingtothetable?Whenwillthefinancialcommitments
beknownsowecanbudgetthechanges?• Howmuchmoneycanbesavedthroughsharedstaff?• Willsecuritystaffcostbesharedifused?• Howstablearethesizesandoperatingbudgetsofbothcongregations?• Whathappensifonecongregationbecomesfinanciallylesssecure??• Willwebeabletomaintainparity?
Future
• Willwehavetroubleattractingclergyinthefutureduetothecomplexity?• Howlongwillspacebeviablewithgrowingcongregations?• Willwemaintainourcommitmenttoco-location?• Whathappenswhenthecapacitieschangeduetomembershipsize?• Whatisthelifetimeofchangebeforeweneedtodoitagain?• Willministersstaytoworkthroughthisprocess?
RelationshipwithShirTikvah
• WhatisourcurrentactivitywithST?Wouldthischange?• Willwedojointactivities,worshipormissionwork?• Canwearrangeatimefor1Ucongregantstomeet/hangout/eatwithST
congregantsbeforewetakeourvoteinthefallof2019?• Howdoweaccommodatebothcongregations’expressionoftheirspiritualityin
termsofdecoratedspaceswithoutimposingontheothercongregation’sspiritualexpressions?
• Willtherebeopportunitiesforjointprogrammingandsharingexperiences?• Isthisapracticallyforeverrelationship?• WhydoesSTwanttomove?• HowbigistheSTcongregation?WhatareST’sfeelingsaboutus?• WhatisST’spositiononIsrael/Palestine?• WillSTmoveSundayschooltoadifferentday?
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• WouldthisrestrictourfreedomofspeechsuchasmembersprotestingIsrael’streatmentofPalestinians?
• Willtherebeprogramstoeducateeachcongregationontheothers’religion?• Whatifwedisagreeonanimportantpoliticalissue?
Other
• Willpeopleleaveeithercongregationbecausetheydon’tlikewhat’shappening?• WhatwillhappenonSundaymornings?IamtoldthisiswhenSTdoestheirSunday
schoolduetokidseventsonSaturdays.• WhatistheplanforincreasingREunderco-locationornon-co-location?• Whatisourmessage/publicfaceintheworld?