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josephmacias1 Member Member Geek Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: south carolina Posts: 89 Real Name: joseph Invicta hate squad Well let me start my post by saying this is not a "HATE" post towards invicta or anyone in this forum. I know that like every other forum we have our issues with certain brands etc... but we keep it formal without trying to bash each others heads in two,Now i do not post very much not becouse i don't want to but becouse i don't have the time. I do however love to read and sometimes i find myself reading all the interesting posts that come from all the watchgeeks in the forum. I find that i have learned more about watches etc... reading about what others think of a brand,movement,price and this includes other threads that have nothing to do with watches.Well in saying all that "WATCHGEEKS" is the first forum that i have ever joined until 2 days ago.I have nothing to hide so i will put the initials of the forum which so many of you probably already know "WL". I registered to be a member,i got excepted and was truthful in the way that i stated that i belonged to another forum "WATCHGEEKS" and then the sloughter began, Not even 5 minutes into the sight posters began saying i was a troll that i was a Jim Skelton and Mike davis lover and some other CRAP I really can't say at this time so i will just leave it as a PG rating for now.I can only tell you after a few choice words i felt like it was time for me to go. Some of the garbage that goes down there has nothing to do with watches or anything thing else. Some are just there to talk S..T and nothing else. Well i just wanted to say that you really don't know how good you have it here, it could be worse alot worse.So i'm happy to be back to my first and only forum. Thankyou for reading. 3 Lastest Threads by josephmacias1 Thread Forum Last Poster Replies Views Last Post Invicta hate squad General Invicta Watch Discussions Chief68 97 2187 01- 12- 2011 05:14 PM harbaugh to dolphins "maybe" The Locker Room 50mm&up 15 80 01- 06- 2011 11:28 AM so who's gonna win miami or the lakers The Locker Room reliefcp 14 74 12- 23- 2010 06:26

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josephmacias1

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Invicta hate squad

Well let me start my post by saying this is not a "HATE" post towards invicta or anyone in this

forum. I know that like every other forum we have our issues with certain brands etc... but we

keep it formal without trying to bash each others heads in two,Now i do not post very much not

becouse i don't want to but becouse i don't have the time. I do however love to read and

sometimes i find myself reading all the interesting posts that come from all the watchgeeks in

the forum. I find that i have learned more about watches etc... reading about what others think

of a brand,movement,price and this includes other threads that have nothing to do with

watches.Well in saying all that "WATCHGEEKS" is the first forum that i have ever joined

until 2 days ago.I have nothing to hide so i will put the initials of the forum which so many of

you probably already know "WL". I registered to be a member,i got excepted and was truthful

in the way that i stated that i belonged to another forum "WATCHGEEKS" and then the

sloughter began, Not even 5 minutes into the sight posters began saying i was a troll that i was

a Jim Skelton and Mike davis lover and some other CRAP I really can't say at this time so i will

just leave it as a PG rating for now.I can only tell you after a few choice words i felt like it was

time for me to go. Some of the garbage that goes down there has nothing to do with watches or

anything thing else. Some are just there to talk S..T and nothing else. Well i just wanted to say

that you really don't know how good you have it here, it could be worse alot worse.So i'm

happy to be back to my first and only forum. Thankyou for reading.

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harbaugh to dolphins

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so who's gonna win

miami or the lakers The Locker Room reliefcp 14 74

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2010

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there all a bunch of funny little men,who got beat up as a kid.that's there way of having

fun now.there also a bunch of followers too.now there going to take this post & post it all

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This is a civilized place, and watchgeeks are accepting of all brands..And on top of that the

community here is extremely helpful and knowledgeable..And we are all here because we

LOVE our timepieces regardless of the Brand...Sadly it's no surprise how you were treated at the

"WL" forum...

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01-12-2011, 05:27 PM

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I'm a newbie and don't know anything about WL. I'm curious. How do I reach and read them?

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Welcome back Joseph. Take the good and ignore the bad. Look forward to your posts. Hope you

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Yes, it is something many of us have experienced first hand as well. Thankfully this here is a

forum where differences in opinion are tolerated and also welcomed.

FWIW I don't know Mike Davis or Jim S personally... so I am neutral on that one, and I often

politely disagree with their opinions too.

Anyhow... welcome to WG brother

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welcome bck as well...i still dont get how other forums think we are all invcta people or

whatever,we talk about any and every thing here,so people love to T.S. on line...I THINK IT IS

BALLESS,im just saying.

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First off I would like to say Welcome to WatchGeeks. As for

the haters on those forums you speak of I do not give their

grievances much creedence. Most of the members on those

forums have been burned one time to many and have decided

to spend their lives waging a Vendetta against the company

that did them wrong. Invicta does have its share of problems,

but it will take more than someones diatribe against Invicta to

keep me from buying more Invicta watches in the future.

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there all a bunch of funny little men,who got beat up as a kid.that's there way of having fun

now.there also a bunch of followers too.now there going to take this post & post it all over

there site.F'them & there leader.

Right On Dave!

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welcome bck as well...i still dont get how other forums think we are all invcta people or

whatever,we talk about any and every thing here,so people love to T.S. on line...I THINK IT IS

BALLESS,im just saying.

Ball-less indeed!

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Joesph life is short and no time for hate here!!!!!

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Have heard ALOT about 'other' forums saying bad things about invicta and this forum .. and

heard over here at this forum.

Never been to any other forum , do not need to and do not want to ... Happy here !!!

Enjoy your stay here ...

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Thanks for the info. Sorry you had to run into people like that, but glad you're back home with

us. This was also my first watch forum. I joined just as I began my interest in watches. Because

of all the great people here, and all that I have learned and continue to learn, I have never given

a second thought to even testing another forum. Thanks to all the hard work of the owners,

mods, administrators and other members this is the only place I call home for my watch passion.

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I don't always like Invicta as a company, but I wear one to work everyday. Invicta Elite I bought

8 years ago. Just bought another on ebay. Rosegold, silver dial. Looks brand new. Hope you

enjoy this forum!

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Well it has been over 30 years since I was in elementary school and that behavior reminds me of

such actions. I am not going to bash any one site or those individuals as if this is how they chose

to live their lives, then so be it. I joined here not because I was a fan of Invicta, but to have a

comfy environment to learn about this great hobby without being criticized for what I like. I

have gained some real friends here thru thick and thin. This place has been a safe haven for me.

I have been an active member for almost three years and will continue so because this is a place

I call home.

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When I am doing Google searches for certain watch related items I find myself on some of the

other forums and I can't help but to laugh at the hate that gets spewed on them. ZERO posts of

substance there.

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Welcome back Joseph and I guess it goes like this here- and I LIKE IT.

NO PROBLEM in criticizing a brand or person- but it has to be BALANCED and TRUTHFUL.

If I own 30 Invicta's (insert you number here) and I have a problem with one that Invicta CS

screws up on- THE SKY IS NOT FALLING AND INVICTA IS NOT A CRAP COMPANY

BECAUSE OF IT. Jim Skelton is not a Invicta Shill because of it- Mike Davis is not a liar

because of it!

(Truth is for me I have bought and sold and own over 40 with but ONE problem they fixed in

less than 30 days- amazing QC for me personally)

It needs to be brought up and see if anything can be done but...

Nothing should deteriorate into bashing as it does on other sites that I have seen.

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AND further more I have seen posts where Jim and Mike have personally intervened to make

things right for some fellow geek (CUSTOMER) kudos to them and it keeps me being a

member.

If people want controversy and bashing- there are plenty of sites to go to-I hope this never

deteriorates into that.

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This is why we are here and not there. I was in it for a few days before I joined WG...could not

handle the negativity. This is a great family...

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Welcome back.... We all here might not agree on everything, but we are watchgeeks to the end...

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there all a bunch of funny little men,who got beat up as a kid.that's there way of having fun

now.there also a bunch of followers too.now there going to take this post & post it all over

there site.F'them & there leader.

+1 Dave.

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So many watches to wear, so little time.

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I guess that got some people doing covert acts becouse my post already got to them.

"FUNNY"....

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LOL,it's on there site already.the funny thing is they said we called them out.ain't that

some dumb sh-t.what are they in jr.high.i think i'll meet them after school & staighten this

out.LOL.they are a bunch of scary guys,especially that mr.fish.LOL,he's there leader &

general of there cool army.LOL __________________

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Pick just about any topic or hobby and you are likely to find the same type of situation.

Motorcycles, cars, RCs, anything. There is always a site where technical knowledge and

gathering for a positive purpose creates jealousy and seems to bring together that element you

saw on the other site. Call it human nature or some unexplained flaw in our genetics. Go figure.

Once I found WG I knew I did not need to belong elsewhere as far as watches were concerned.

Very simple: You can get with this or you can get with that, you can get with this or you can get

with that!

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I dont understand where there coming from. All I know is ive been collecting just over a yr and

have purchased alot of Invictas and only had truble with 1 and Rebecca had me taken care of in

3 days. I went over to that site just to see and couldnt believe what was said. Not worth my time.

I'm not sure where you can go that the site is sponcerd by Jim Micheal and Invicta andthey let

you descussed about all the brands and other things we talk about. This is the ONLY site I

belong to.

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They do make me laugh over there, can you imagine living your life trying too screw people

over. Once you think about that scenario imagine being a follower like the rest of the sheep over

there. I can not fathom following any one person like those people over there. But again I guess

"Everybody needs something to believe in" it kind of reminds me of the Jim Jones cult over

there. I guess I could only hope for the same outcome.

Oooooops did I just say that? LOL

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they want the truth they can't handle the truth.

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Good move! Just a bunch of hate going on over there. They need to get a life! Ron is right just a

bunch of sheep!

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True...when contacted and when they have the time, Jim and Mike can make all the difference.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z4MC

Welcome back Joseph and I guess it goes like this here- and I LIKE IT.

NO PROBLEM in criticizing a brand or person- but it has to be BALANCED and

TRUTHFUL. If I own 30 Invicta's (insert you number here) and I have a problem with one that

Invicta CS screws up on- THE SKY IS NOT FALLING AND INVICTA IS NOT A CRAP

COMPANY BECAUSE OF IT. Jim Skelton is not a Invicta Shill because of it- Mike Davis is

not a liar because of it!

(Truth is for me I have bought and sold and own over 40 with but ONE problem they fixed in

less than 30 days- amazing QC for me personally)

It needs to be brought up and see if anything can be done but...

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Nothing should deteriorate into bashing as it does on other sites that I have seen.

AND further more I have seen posts where Jim and Mike have personally intervened to make

things right for some fellow geek (CUSTOMER) kudos to them and it keeps me being a

member.

If people want controversy and bashing- there are plenty of sites to go to-I hope this never

deteriorates into that.

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I read one of these threads every other day....perhaps you should do a search before adding

another unnecessary post about this issue. It does nothing more than spawn debate that serves no

purpose...IMHO.

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Well Welcome Back. These guys are just jealous because thier IQ matches thier age, n thier

wives gave them the nickname of Stubby, because they are short ofcourse.

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I think a lot of us have taken a look at the other site. What is funny is that they think everyone

here is an Invicta apologist, which is the farthest thing from the truth. I have seen some posters

here with huge post counts call out Invica on several issues. I like Invicta and own a couple and

admit that the company could do better in certain areas based upon what I have seen and read.

That being said I think the biggest problem with that other site is the personal vendetta a lot of

posters have against Invicta, its owner, ShopNBC and Jim and Mike. I just want to know who

held a gun to their head and made them purchase watches?

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I for one do not know how anybody can call Mike D. a liar; anybody who uses helium before

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Do it again!

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Yeah but it's uncensored and you can say dirty words,Beavis and Butthead would be proud. I

checked it out on a number of occasions and really didn't learn much about watches. Learned

some fancy new words though. I'll let those cats make a mess in their own litter box, but they

sure have trouble dealing with this playground. To each their own. They say we are all sheep,

but their small membership seems to be the one with the all consuming need to agree with each

other. There are some very knowledgeable people there who have been on watch forums for

years so it's a free country they deserve their place to vent, I'll pass I prefer a more civil place to

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peaceful, relaxing respite from my chaotic life. If my hobby gets me that cranked up then it's

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I'm not a follower ,when I wear my Invicta in gas station or restaurant 7 out of 10 time

someone will make a comet on watch.

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mmmm..... Yummy! Just what I was lookin' for. A dead carp to chow down on..... Some

people call them koi, but they're just bottom feeding carp... nothin' special, but an acquired

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taste all the same. We're really not supposed to eat them, 'cause their nasty. But, what's a

Vulture to do?

Sorry you had to go there and endure the inhumanity of the wicked, Joseph.

The good news is that you're here, and we are glad to have you.

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Is it my monitor or does Jim Jones look like a rotting Carp?

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Is it my monitor or does Jim Jones look like a rotting Carp?

not the monitor....if it is then we both have the same one

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I read one of these threads every other day....perhaps you should do a search before adding

another unnecessary post about this issue. It does nothing more than spawn debate that serves

no purpose...IMHO.

I couldn't agree more. It seems that the people starting threads about this are just looking for

acceptance and they get it by prodding the vulgar and ignorant comments that they accuse others

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Sometimes the "Dark Side" rears its head ... welcome back and post more ...

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A little dose of their own medicine doesnt hurt a damn thing Boyz, so chill a bit!

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Thanks for the info. Sorry you had to run into people like that, but glad you're back home with

us. This was also my first watch forum. I joined just as I began my interest in watches.

Because of all the great people here, and all that I have learned and continue to learn, I have

never given a second thought to even testing another forum. Thanks to all the hard work of the

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owners, mods, administrators and other members this is the only place I call home for my

watch passion. Keep the posts coming!

+ 1. Could not have said this better. Quite similar experience.

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LOL,it's on there site already.the funny thing is they said we called them out.ain't that some

dumb sh-t.what are they in jr.high.i think i'll meet them after school & staighten this

out.LOL.they are a bunch of scary guys,especially that mr.fish.LOL,he's there leader &

general of there cool army.LOL

Careful Dave. They might bring their big brother with them.

Kind of ironic that this site was started as a sort of antithesis of those kind of forums, yet they

now use things we do and say here to feed their vitriol.

Oh well. Live and let live. (Anyone over there ever heard that one?)

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Let me just say that a friend of mine told me about that "WL" forum sometime ago and he told

me what went on and i went and saw it for myself it was pure craziness.Is really sad to see some

people going so far with hate and pure anarchy just to hurt somebody .That forum owner and his

clowns hate Jim and Eyal with such passion that the focus is not on watches at all .Im not pro

Jim or Eyal and invicta is not even my brand of choice but let me say this i think Mr.Skelton

might have enough grounds to punch that guy in the face or sue him .

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Joe,

I would imagine that in life, without the ability to compare,

we would never have a guage to measure what we have.

I have seen these posts about this other website.

The internet is like the ocean, an abyss of the unknown in some aspects.

Watch geeks is a community of artist's, who collect, discuss, and create, an art museum,

if you will, of fellow watch geek art collection and analysis, of appreciation.

That being, each member of the community, and their collection, their choices of engines,

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and complications and desires of brand, and attributes of timepiece equipment.

Passion exists here, for opinion, desire and honest opinion of a given timepiece,

style, or price wrapped in size of timepiece as well.

I am puzzled but not surprized by other sites where the," Lord Of The flies," mentality is alive

and well.

I guess it's human nature, or a form of fear by others, as this community is civil,

fun, mind expanding in thought patterns, and contemplation of new ideas,

and improvement of existing idea's.

Enjoy yourself here and feel secure in knowing, that here we are all in a museum of

horological beauty,

and elsewhere, I imagine, a prize fight seems to exist.

I'll opt for the museum, I guess you like the museum of art as well.

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I'm not standing up for WL, which I don't belong to...but it doesn't take a lot of reading on

that site to realize that it's unabashedly anti-WG...so why would anyone go there, join, and

then announce that you're a Watchgeek?

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Before you join another forum, maybe you oughta do your homework first. This is really

no different than going onto, say, a Ford forum and announcing that you're a Chevy lover.

Sorry, but it just doesn't make any sense.

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Let me just say to the ones that think i made this post for acceptance or anything else,come on

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made it for the general public and the "NEWBEES" that are coming to this forum becouse i still

consider myself a "NEWBEE" when it comes down to watches and forums. I wanted to let the

public know that we at watchgeeks have it pretty good. Now must of the time we really do not

know the person behind the post but if you knew me you would understand that i'm neither a

follower or as some members put it need "ACCEPTANCE". Thank you one and all.

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I'm not standing up for WL, which I don't belong to...but it doesn't take a lot of reading on

that site to realize that it's unabashedly anti-WG...so why would anyone go there, join, and

then announce that you're a Watchgeek?

Before you join another forum, maybe you oughta do your homework first. This is really no

different than going onto, say, a Ford forum and announcing that you're a Chevy lover.

Sorry, but it just doesn't make any sense.

It's simple really what don't you understand or what doesn't make sense to you. I don't need to lie

to anyone and i don't need to hide. There always going to be negative posts but i didn't know it

was that bad over there. See is really very simple so i hope you understand.

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Jeez..

Oprah doesn't have as much drama. The fact that some people feel the need to say "look what I

stepped in and let me tell you how you can step into too" is silly.

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Oprah doesn't have as much drama. The fact that some people feel the need to say "look what

I stepped in and let me tell you how you can step into too" is silly.

Silly to you but may not be silly to others.But thankyou for your wise opinion

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Opinion...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoffrey_Thorpe

Oprah doesn't have as much drama. The fact that some people feel the need to say "look what

I stepped in and let me tell you how you can step into too" is silly.

Don't watch Oprah so i couldn't tell ya, never have...never will, thanks for the heads up though.

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Oprah doesn't have as much drama. The fact that some people feel the need to say "look what

I stepped in and let me tell you how you can step into too" is silly.

Interesting observation " Totally irrelevant though"

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I'm a newbie and don't know anything about WL. I'm curious. How do I reach and read them?

i wont say anything too negative, but wl is a site mostly composed of former members here who

were banned for one reason or another. i was shocked to read some fo the things they say about

everyone here, even innocent members who have never had a bad thing to say about any of them

personally. the site is not worth visiting, very little watch talk goes on. it is mostly hating on JS,

Michael and WGs, and of course Invicta. if you become a member there, you will most likely be

banned or warned here as the two sites cannot really coexist without turmoil. just an FYI

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...if you become a member there, you will most likely be banned or warned here as the two

sites cannot really coexist without turmoil. just an FYI

===

Well... If that is the case, then I am VERY GLAD to be here at WatchGeeks.net.

I haven't figured out the new, let me call it, "cyber anthropology," as to why some people on

some Forums get into flaming and super hurtful behavior that they probably wouldn't do if they

were in the same room. On the caricature side of things, there were a couple of guys that flamed

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themselves so badly that real friendships got damaged permanently. Flaming out of control, I

feel, is akin to bullying.

I know someone who talks like, "Bevis & Butthead." I know 'cause I asked him to back down

his swearing I bit when we met in public. He said, "I am saying nothing worse than Bevis &

Butthead would." I said to myself, "Oh, God, help us!!"

Meantime, Joseph, you can relax and enjoy yourself here. The MOD(erators) do a great job. The

ONLY reason my watch collecting hobby has grown is because of the direct and friendly help I

have received here. And info I can share back is my payback to the kindness given me. Have

fun.

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Why Bother I do not get it, Ones likes are their own opinion.

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Put me in the confused and don't understand category as to what your expectations were when

you joined WL?

As other posters have indicated the two forums are about as diametrically opposed as they can

be. Look at the responses that members here have made about them and we all (or most all)

know how the WL members and owner feel about this place, JS, MD, Invicta, Shop etc.

Unless you went there to just look, and not participate with posts, there was no way it could

have lasted. If you supported WG in your posts or got into verbal sparring matches of course

you would be viewed as a troll, the same would happen to a WL member that would join here

and start airing their opinions in support of WL, they would be run out of here pronto!

Sometimes one needs to stay out of certain playgrounds, otherwise the bullies will gather.

my 0.5 cents.

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Yes, that "other" site is a very negative place. HOWEVER... there are several responses in this

thread, right here on our beloved friendly WatchGeeks forum, that are nearly as bad as what is

posted daily over there. I'm talking about the dead fish posts in this thread. Those posts are not

funny, and they are down at the same level as what is posted at WL. Please don't stoop to that

level!

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I usually don't get involved in this stuff, but allow me to try to be a voice of reason.....

My only point here is: Who cares what anyone says? I think too many here are too sensitive.

These are just blogs, for heaven's sake. It's when people try to make these things into something

they aren't that makes the trouble begin.

On a personal level, criticism is part of my game. As a few of you know, I'm a singer and have a

few albums out nationally. They all were reviewed in national publications, and a couple of the

reviews weren't all the kind - in fact, one was pretty vicious. But I always harken back to what a

fellow singer once told me: "It doesn't matter what was in the review, as long as they spell the

name right."

I've lived by that credo ever since. I think most people believe I'm a nice guy, but you can't

please everybody. Plus, I'm very happy with my personal life and professional accomplishments,

and I don't need a website or a watch brand to validate my existence.

Aren't we supposed to be talking about watches? I think more than a few people need to take a

chill pill and start to enjoy the hobby again instead of making it some kind of end-all and be-all.

As we say in the blues, crazy, man, crazy!

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Originally Posted by erictrumpet

Yes, that "other" site is a very negative place. HOWEVER... there are several responses in this

thread, right here on our beloved friendly WatchGeeks forum, that are nearly as bad as what

is posted daily over there. I'm talking about the dead fish posts in this thread. Those posts are

not funny, and they are down at the same level as what is posted at WL. Please don't stoop to

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I agree not funny for some, but down right hilarious for others!!! LOL

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I usually don't get involved in this stuff, but allow me to try to be a voice of reason.....

My only point here is: Who cares what anyone says? I think too many here are too sensitive.

These are just blogs, for heaven's sake. It's when people try to make these things into

something they aren't that makes the trouble begin.

On a personal level, criticism is part of my game. As a few of you know, I'm a singer and have

a few albums out nationally. They all were reviewed in national publications, and a couple of

the reviews weren't all the kind - in fact, one was pretty vicious. But I always harken back to

what a fellow singer once told me: "It doesn't matter what was in the review, as long as they

spell the name right."

I've lived by that credo ever since. I think most people believe I'm a nice guy, but you can't

please everybody. Plus, I'm very happy with my personal life and professional

accomplishments, and I don't need a website or a watch brand to validate my existence.

Aren't we supposed to be talking about watches? I think more than a few people need to take a

chill pill and start to enjoy the hobby again instead of making it some kind of end-all and be-

all. As we say in the blues, crazy, man, crazy!

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people made it personal and did things that went way above forum words. It is not

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01-13-2011, 01:19 PM

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Can someone please post what forum is called "WL" (or PM me)? Thanks!

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If it was just all talk I would agree with you to a certain extent but it is not ,

certain people made it personal and did things that went way above forum words.

It is not my place to say anymore but trust me you do not know the half of it.

That is where things get out of line. Look, we all know the internet is filled with haters, bashers,

and the like. Some of them just get a charge out of trying to rile up a crowd. But, to take it to a

personal level as evidently they have is at least libelous. It is unfortunate...

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Aren't we supposed to be talking about watches? I think more than a few people need to take a

chill pill and start to enjoy the hobby again instead of making it some kind of end-all and be-

all. As we say in the blues, crazy, man, crazy!

I agree 100% We are here to talk about watches.. Why lower ourselves to their level & bring attention to this small forum of haters...

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I for one do not know how anybody can call Mike D. a liar; anybody who uses helium before

talking on a national TV show is alright in my book!

Do it again!

+1 !!!

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What I've gotten out of this thread (and several other threads posted about this lately) is, don't

visit other sites because they bash us. Why venture out when one can see bashing done right

here? It's o.k here though, becasue we are better. It's o.k if we do the bashing and act like the

very thing we accuse others of. It's all clear to me now, thanks.

I'm going to rush right out and join a "hater" group so I can get my feelings hurt, then come back

here and start a thread about it so I can be accepted here, stir the pot and sit back and watch

members here turn into "haters".

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Allison,

A great point. Well done.

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What I've gotten out of this thread (and several other threads posted about this lately) is, don't

visit other sites because they bash us. Why venture out when one can see bashing done right

here? It's o.k here though, becasue we are better. It's o.k if we do the bashing and act like the

very thing we accuse others of. It's all clear to me now, thanks.

I'm going to rush right out and join a "hater" group so I can get my feelings hurt, then come

back here and start a thread about it so I can be accepted here, stir the pot and sit back and

watch members here turn into "haters".

Apparently you're either not reading what i said or full of hot air. It was not meant to bash

anyone or be accepted by anyone. Read the post before thinking or knowing what a person is

feeling.Sometimes you learn more just being quiet!

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Dont understand why the poster even wrote this

I dont get the whole thing at all. Why would the poster go over to another site put out that he's

from a site that they disagree with then come back and complain that he went over to said site

and that they were talking about us over there ?

Sounds like he has done the very samething that he claims the other site does.

That would be like me starting out in a club, army, group, crew, professing im in with said like

crew, leave to join another crew and spout out yeah I belong to that crew knowing full well that

most crews dont get along anyway and expect to get some sympathy. Come on man your wrong.

This whole thing you couldve kept to yourself instead of letting it out spewing more hatred and

kaiosk (sp?)

just saying

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Apparently you're either not reading what i said or full of hot air. It was not meant to bash

anyone or be accepted by anyone. Read the post before thinking or knowing what a person is

feeling.Sometimes you learn more just being quiet!

Had you just been quiet and done a search, you would have learned that these threads have been

started before and serve no purpose. None of this would be happening had you just been quiet.

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I dont get the whole thing at all. Why would the poster go over to another site put out that he's

from a site that they disagree with then come back and complain that he went over to said site

and that they were talking about us over there ?

Sounds like he has done the very samething that he claims the other site does.

That would be like me starting out in a club, army, group, crew, professing im in with said like

crew, leave to join another crew and spout out yeah I belong to that crew knowing full well

that most crews dont get along anyway and expect to get some sympathy. Come on man your

wrong. This whole thing you couldve kept to yourself instead of letting it out spewing more

hatred and kaiosk (sp?)

just saying

Man are you sure you're a "WATCHGEEK" just saying.

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The man was giving us a description of his experience over there nothing more, and nothing

less. Only now are those trolls enjoying this thread, because a selected few have decided Joseph

is in the wrong. Unreal!

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Joseph I would suggest you request to have this thread shut down, to end the existing redicule

you are facing for no apparent reason. Just a thought.

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Okay Ladies and Gentlemen ,I think we have just about covered this and before

it turns Nasty , I am CLOSING it.

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