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speaker Redmond: ''The House will come ko Order. I've been advised

by the Election Committee that theytre tied up kith some of

khe election conkesàs, so wefll have to skand àt ease for

fifteen minutes. Doorkeeper, uill you make the announcement

to clear the Chamber.f'

Doorkeeper: ''A1l those not entitled to the Ploor, please go to

the gallery.W

Speaker Redmond: ''The House Will be led in prayer by Revemmd

Krueger, the House Chaplain.e

Reverend Krueger: ''In the name of khe Pather, the Son and the

Holy Ghost. Amen. Bless the Lord khis House this day. There

.is nothing so bad tempered as the liberal vho does not always

ge: bis own way. That was a letter in one of our church

publications this last week. Let us pray. Grant us, oh Lorde

to know thak whieh ? s v'ozth knowing; to love. that which lsN.

worth loving; to praise that which pleases us most) to esteem

that highly which to Thee is precious. Give us the rivhk .

judqement Eô dekermine between things visible and spirikual.

and above a1l to seek thy good pleasure and thy Will. To

Jesus Christ, our Son. Amen.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Ro11 eall for atkendance. Committee Reports./

ö'brien: ''Mr. Lechowicz from Committee'oneArpgopriations: Divi-

sion le to which House Bill 52l was referred, reported sending

back with amendments thereko with the recompendation the

amendmenks be adopted and the Bill as amended do pass. Mr.

Lechowicz from the Committee on AppropriationsrvDivision 1,

to which House Bill 639 was referred, reported sending back

with amendments thereto with the recommendation the amendments

be adopted and the Bill as amended do pass. Mr. Boyle from

the Committee on Appropriations, Division II, to which House

Bill 649 was referred, reported sending back vikh amendments

thereto, with the recommendation *he amendments be adopted ..

and the Bill as amended do pass. Mr. Boyle from the Committee

on Appropriations, Division II, ko which House Bill.... Senate

Bill l70 was referred, reporked sending back wi'h :he recom-. . ... i;' from the committeemendation khe Bill do pass. Mr. Fennessey

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Mr. Mcpartlin from Ehe Committee on Public Utilities, to

which House Bill 375 and 485 were referred, reporEed sending

back with the amendments thereto, with the recommendation

the amendments be adopted and the Bill as amended do passw''

Speaker Redmond: ''First Reading.''

O'Brien: ''House Bfll 859. Luft. A Bill for an Act to amend

the Revenue Act. Pirst Reading of the Bill. House Bill 860.'.

Kelly. A Bill for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinôii

Municipal Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 861.'Mann. A Bill for an Act to amend the Public Community College

Act. First Reading of the Bi11. House Bill 862. Greiman.

A Bill for an Act relating to land trusts. First Reading of

the Bill. House Bill 863. Walsh. Bill for an Act to amend

Unemployment Compensation Act. First Reading of the Bill.

House Bill 864. Mautino. Bill for an Act to amend an

Act to revise the law ip relation to snowm3biles. First

Reading of the Bill. House Bi11 865. Deuster. Bill for an

Act to amend the Election Code. Firsk Reading of the Bill.

House Bill 866. Deuster. Bill for an Act to amend the

Electâop Code. First Reading of.the Bill. House Bill 867.

Deuster. Bill for an Act to amend the Election Code. Pirst

2.

the Bill do not pass.

Reading of the Bill. House Bill 868. Borchers. Bill.for an

Act to anend the Nursing Home, Shelter Care Home for the

'Aged. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 869. Cunninqham.

A Bill for an Act to revise the 1aw in relation to slot

hizes. First Reading of the Bill. House Bilï 870. Pouncey.mac4 .ï M

A Bill for an Act to amend the Frozen Dessert Product Act.

Firsk Reading of :he Bill. House Bill 871. Pouncey.. A

Bill for an Act to amend the Illinois Clinical Labratory

Act. First Readinq of the Bill. House Bill 872. Beatty.

A Bill for an Act Eo amend the Retailors Occupation Tax

Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 873. Matijevich.

A Bill for an Act ko amend the Municlpal Code. Pirst Reading

of the Bill. House Bill 874. Bradley. A Bill for an Aet

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. 1 ' 4.ï i ù loyees under certain' circum- 1to amend an Act to requ re. mp

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stances to accept cash from their employers in lieu of I' :1 .. payroll deductions. Pirst Reading of the Bill. House '

Bill 875. Friedland. Bill for an Act to amend the i

Probate Act. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill 876.

Palmer. Bill for an Act to amend khe Pension Code. First !* .

Reading of the Bill. House Bill 877. Calvo. Bill for an Ii

Act to amend the Metro-east Sanitary District Act. First !

Reading of the Bill. House Bill 878. Calvo. Bill for qn '

Act to amend.an Act to create a santita:y district in cer-

' tain localities. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill

879. Calvo. Bill for an Act to amend the Sanitary District

Act. First Reading of the Bi11. House Bill 880. Calvo. ''

Bill for an Act to amend the Sanitary District Aet. First

Reading of the Billa House Bill 881. Ralph Dunn. Bill

for an Act to amend an Act to protect cemeteries. House

Bill 882. Ralph Dunn. A Bill for an Act relating to

p purchase registration, retention of certain bronze cemetery

vases, receptacles: memorial statutes and staturaries. First

' Reading of the Bill. House Bill *83. Capparelli. A Bill

for an Act to amend khe Revenue Act. First Reading of the

Bill. Housta Bill 084. Lundy. J.' Bill for an Ack to amend '

the Election Code. First Reading of the Bill. House Bill !

885. VanDuyne. Bill for an Act making supplemental appro- '1

priations to the Department of Corrections. First Reading . . - -. . !

of the Bill. House Bill 886. LaFleur...Bil1 for an Act.

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.1 to amend Sections of the Downstate county Working Cash Eund. '

j&'' Act. FirsE Reading of the Bill. House Bill 887. Skinnep.

A Bill for an Act ko amend khe School Code. Pirst Reading

of the Bill. House Bill 888. Skinner. A Bill for an Act

to amend the Northeastern Illinois Planning Act. First

Reading of the Bill. House Bill 889. Tipsword. Bill for

an Act to amend an Act in relation to State Revenue Sharing t

with Local government entities. First Reading of the Bill.

Houoe 890. Rayson. A Bill for an Act to provide for the ' .

' licensing and regulation of hand guns. First Reading of ;'.

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khe Bill. Rouse Bill 891. Rayson. Bill for an Act to

regulate the sale and transfer of hand gun ammunition.

First Reading of Ehe Bill. House Bill 892. Williams.

A Bill for an Act to anend Criminal Code. First Readinq

of the Bill. House Bill 893. McGah. A Bill for an Act

ko amend the Purchasing Ack. First Reading of the Bill.

Thates McGrew, 893. House Bill 894. ' Eudson. A Bill for

an Act to amend an AcE relating to the compensation of the

Members of the General Assembly. First Reading of the

Bill. House Bill à95. Gène Hoffman. A Bill for an Act

to amend an Act in relation to requlatidn of business and

vocational schools. First Reading of the Bill. House

Bill 896. Schraeder. A Bill for an Act to amend an Act

in relation to the system of unemployment compensation.

Fitst Reading of the Bill. House Bill 897. Duff. A Bill

for an Act relatipg to affairs of missing persons. First

Reading of the Bill. Pouse Bill 898. Fennessey. A Billcl

for an Act to amend an Act.... A Bill for an Act to revise.

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the establishment of agricultural, conserviiion and pro-

tection areas and to amend an act named therein. First!. .

Reading of khe Bf7.l.. House BilA 890. Duff. A Bill for

an Act making appropriation to the Supreme Court. First

Reading of the Bill. House Bill 900. Duff. A Bill for

an Act to add Chapter 6, entitled 'Organization of'probation

Services to the Unified Code of Corrections'. First Reading

of the Bill. House Bill 901. Brinkmeier. A Bill for an Act

to amend Sections of the School Code. First Reading qf the

Bill. House Bill 902. Brinkmeier. A Bill for an Act to

amend Sections of the School Code. Ffrst Reading of the

Bill. House Bill 902. Brinkmeier. A Bill for an Act to

amend an Act concerninq fees and salaries. First Reading

of the Bill. House Bill 903. Londrigan. A Bill for an Act

making appropriation for the .... from the road fund to the

Department of Transportation. Pirst Reading of the Bill.

House Bill 904. Piekce. A Bill for an Act to relation to' ' .. . . .. . .: ) . ,.. . . : .. , . . . . y . .jj z; . . .J . . . . u . ..r . . Jmarriage and divorce. First Reading of the Bill. House ':! '. y: ,y . . , . , , . : a - ,,!). . . .. . .. ('. . ? u x ' '' ' J . .Bill 905

. .schoeberlein. A Bill for an AcE in rdlation-td': ... .'; ' : :. . . . . J' - . .7 . .. .!

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public information concerning opinions, orders, records

ahd proceedings in or before State agencies. House Bill

906. Sharp. Bill for an Act to provide for veterinary

diagnoskic carrier center. Pirst Reading of the Bill.

House Bill 907. Sharp. Bill for an Act making an appropri-

itioh to the Department of Agriculture. First Reading

of the Bill. House Bill 908. Pierce. A Bill for an Act

to prohibit the concurrent investigation of the office Of

county board members. rirst Reading of the Bill.

Speaker Redmond: ''Therb beinq l6l Members answering the roll

call, a quorum is #resent. Any excuses. RepresentativeWashburn, do you desire recognition? Representative Shea,

do you have any Members that need to be excused. I under-

stand that there are two Republicans that should be excused.

Will somebody so advise the Journal. Representative

Schlickman.''

Schlickman: ''Mr. Speaker, will the Journal show that Representa-! x

tive Waddell is absent due to illness, and Representative

YPVOZ * lî

Speaker Rydmond: ''Hearing no objectionse the Journal will so show.second Readings.' House Bills. Fecond'Reading. House Bill

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OeBrien: ''House Bill ï8. Deuster. A Bill for an Act to'amend

i f the School Code. Second Reading of the Bill.%Sect ons o

Speaker Redmond: 'Representative Deuster.W

Deuster: ''Yes, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House,

amendment Numher l had been adopted to House Bill l8. Amend-

ment Number 2 and Number 3 Were alternative amendments and

I would at this time move to Table Amendment Nnmher 2, which

is my amendment.''

speaker Redmond: ''Gentleman has moved to Table Amendment Number

2. Any discussion? Representakive Berman.'

Bermant . *Mr. Speakere ah.... a point of inquiry. Would the Clerk

i dicated on Amendmentbe able to tell me whether it was n

Numher lz which was adopted yesterdaye whether that was a

floor amendment or a committee amendment?/

O'Brien: *lt's already been enrolled and you can't tell ifvitîs. ; . . . ., r : . '

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floor or committee.''@

. IBermanl ''Olkay, 1!11 save my comments until third reading on k! 1'. . . jjj- 1, ' . .' t S . . , j

Speaker Redmondc NAny fukther discussion? The question is on

the Motion to Table Amendment Number 2 to House Bill l8.

All in favör, indicate by saying 'aye'. Opposed 'no'.'

The 'ayes: have it and the Amendment is tabled. I'd like

to make an announcement. We had some sound engineerse j50th on the Floor of Ehe House and at the St. Nicholas Hotel 1

last night, and we found.khat the noise on the floor is

.'' 10 decibels than it was last nfght when the band was playing. i

Will you please have some order. Third Reading on House' I

Bill 18. Any further amendments. Third Reading for House

Bill l8. House B1ll 20.'' -

o'Bi'ien: ''House Bill 20. A Bill for an Act to mqend Sqctions of 2

an Act to revise the law in relation to marriages. Second

Reàding of the Bill.'' .

Speaker Redmond; ''Representative Deuster.W

Deuster: ''Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House '

's amend- . i.Bill 20 received one amendment in Commiktee. That1

mept Number 1. When the Bill came to khe floory my good l

friènd andzable colleague, Representative Gene Hoffmany came I

!to me to suggest an amendment, which seemed to me at that

k'' ti e to be rather helpful and tha: was incorporated in amend- ,

, I' discovered that my *ndeavor - --1ment number 2. Since then, I ve

d the Bille and we have 1to help my colleague has badly damage. I

b0th agreed that we would like to take that off. At this

time, for that purpose, I would move to suspend the provi-)-sion of Rule 64A so that we can reconslder the vote by which

Amendment Number 2 is adopted.'f

Speaker Redmone: ''Representative Deuster, the Parliamentarian

advises me that the Motion to table the amendment willk

suffice.''

Deuster: ''With that, the parliamentarv advice, I would at this

time move to Table Amendment Number 2 to House Bill 20.*L .

Speaker Redmondt DAny discussion? Question is on the Motion to' .

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All in favor, indicate by saying 'aye'. Opposed 'no'. .. I

The 'ayesî have it and the Amendment is Tabled. Third ' ' ;Q:

Reading . House Bill f 9 . '' ' I

O'Brien: ''House Bill 79. A Bill for an AcE to amend Sections

; of the Illinois Small Budiness Purchasing Act. SecondIReading of khe Bill

. One Committee Amendment.'' I

Speaker Redmond: ''Emil Jones. Representative Emil Jones. House i1Bill 79. Take it ou* of the Record. House Bill 128.'.. Take '-!

. t i r,:I'ê'.it' out of the Record. House Bill 210 . Representative '

Kelly. '' '

O'Brien: ''House Bill 2lQ. Kelly. A Bill for an Act to require

legible price markings of food products. Second Reading

of the Bill. No CommitEee Amendmentsp''

Speaker Redmond: ''Any Amendments from the Plooro''

OfBrien: ''Amendment Numher 1. Kelly. Amends House Bill 2l0

on page 1, line 27 and so forth./ .

Kelly: ''Mr. Speaker and Momhers of the House, House Amendment

Nttmher l would take out, what is the smaller qrocery stores,

. from this Bill. The figure 500,000 sounds veky large, but

it is not, because of the volume it's dealing with on thèiraz *

,. A ''''' chain stcres . This f u.' gure ':Lc rather low f or their purpos es . , '

There's a national, a'ccordingNto the consumer advocate,

cecelia Maloney, the Federal Regulation in what is consideredeq . .

* a slall störe and a 500,000 figure is used, and I move for

the adoption of House Amendment Numher l to House Bill 210.p

. . Speaker Redmond: RAny further discussion? Question is on the' adoption of Amendment Numher l to House Bill 210.4 All in

favor, indicate by saying 'aye', opposed 'nol. Tbe 'ayes'

have it and the Amendmen: is adopted. Any further Amendments?

Any Amendments from the Floor? Tbird Reading. House Bill

' 4 250.* '

o'Brien: pHouse Bill 250. Rayson. A Bill for an Act to amend -

Sections of the Fair Employment Practice Act. Second Reading i' of the Bill. One Committee Amendment. Amends House Bill

' 250 on Page 4 by deleting lines 1, 2 and 3 and so forEhwl

k R dmond: *Re resentative Rayson.l 'Spea er e p

Rays6n: pMr. Speaker and Members of the House, this Is a Com- '.

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Speaker Redmondk ''Any discussion? The question is on the ;

adoption of Committee Amendment Numher l to House Bill 250.

All in favorr indicate by saying 'aye'. Opposed 'no'. The

'ayes' have it. The amendment's adopted. House Bill 251.''

O'Brien: ''House Bill 251. Rayson. A Bill for an Act to amend

Sections of the Criminal Code. Second éeading of the Bill.

. One Committee Amendment. Amends House Bill 25l on Page 2 '

' by deleting al1 of line 5 Ehrough 7.f' '

Speaker Redmond: ''Mr. Rayson.''

Rayson: ''Mr. Speaker, again this is a Committee Amendment to

drop from the Bill a nonsectfon in the Bil1 and I move the -

adoption of Committee Amendment Number l to House Bill 251.'' .

Speaker Redmond: ''Any discussion? Question is on the adoption

of Committee Amendment Number 1 to House Bill 251. Those

in favor, indicate by saying 'aye'. Opposed 'no'. The

layes' have it. Qhird Reading. House Bill 323./

O'Brien: ''House Bill 323. A Bill for an Act to designate a

day to be observèd as Senior Citizens Day. Second Reading

of the Bi11. No Committee Amendments.R

s eaker neamond? ''iny Amendmenes from the F'zoor? 'rhird Reading.p$. House Bill 381.''

O'Brien: ''House Bill 38l O ' - '-- '

Speaker Redmond: ''Take that out of the Record. I understand that

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Representative Hirschfeld is not here. House Bill 510.*' . 4

OîBrien: ''House Bill 5f0. Chapman. A Bill for an Act to amend I

Sections of the Illinois Hea1th Facilities Authority Act. j

Second Reading of the Bill. One Committee Amendment. Anends): House Bill 510, on page 1, line l9, by inserting after 'any',

the following and so forth.''

speaker Redmond: pRepresentative Chapman in the Chamhers? Repre-

tative Chapman.esen

chapman: ''Mr. speakèr, this is a ah-... just a clarifying amend-

ment that adds something which .... nonprofit. which had been

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. iinadvertently omitted in the original bill. I move for

a the adoption of Amendment Number 1 to House Bill 510. '' '

Speaker Redmond: MAny discussion? Question is on the adcption '

of Committee Amendmen: Number l to House Bill 510. All .

those in favor: indicate by saying 'aye'. Opposed 'no'.

the 'ayes' have it and the amendment is adopEed. Any amend-

ments from the floor? Third Reading. House Bill 515.*

O'Brien: ''House Bill 515. A Bi1l for an Act to amend Sections .

of the School Code, Second Reading of the Bil1. One

Committee Amendmenk. Amends House Bill 5l5 on page 2 by '

deleting a11 of lines 26 through 35 and so forth.''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Chapmano'g

Chapman: ''Mr. speaker, this is the ah.... Amendment that apparently

kasn't on everybody's desk yesterdayg and I hope i: is today. -

It is a simple Committee Amendment to House Bill 515, and .it clarifies the Bill khat really had some wording in it

which truly requires some clarification. I move for the

adoption of Amendment Number 1 to House Bill 515.* ,

Speaker Redmond: ''Any discussion? Representative Schlickman.p

Schlickman: ''Mr. Speaker, Ilm sorry to go through the same matter

but I don't find a copy of this Amendment in my Bill book.

The Minority Leader does not have a copy of this Amendment

in 'his Bill book. I have talked to the head of our Pages,

and he said to his knowledgee it has not been distributed

on this side of the aisleg''

Chapman: ''Mr. speaker, I'm in no hurry with this Bill. I cer-

tainly want everyone to have an opportunity to ah.... to seet

*he Amendment. I brdught my amendment over to the Minority

Leader for him to see yesterday, and if this Bill is enough

interest to people that ah..... I'd certainly llke to assist

if there's some difficnlty over on that side of the aisle

in getting amendments passed outo''

S eaker' Redmond: HWell , we ' 11 take this out of the Record. WeP

will make sure that the arendmenEs are distributed. Repre-

sentative Shea . B '.''

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Sheat ''Mr. Speaker, yesterday this same question arose with

regards to this same amendment. The Lady graciously to'ok

this Bill ouE of the Record yesterday, I then checkèd with

the Clerk and I was assurred by the Clerk's Office that those

Amendments were distributed by the Clerk's Office through the

Pages. Ah.... and the Lady did bring her Amendment over to

the Minority Leader yesterday so Z don't see how he could

today complain about it.''

Speaker Redmond: ''We1l, maybe he can't complain about ity but

I think a better practice is to màke sure they have :he

Amendment. Mr. O'Brien, will you prepare to Representative .

Chapman,:qget a copy of the Amendment, see that ik is xeroxed

and distributed to Representative Schlickman and a11 like

intended peoplez House Bill 571.1'

O'Brien: ''You going to take 5l5 outR''

Speaker Redmond: ''Take it out teéporarily, yes./

O'Brien: ''House Bill 571. A Bill for an Act to repeal an.Act

in relation to Lahdlords and tepants, Second Reading of

the Bill. No Coïmittee Amendmentsw''

,1 ,; ': ' t tw espeaker Redmond : M y amendments f rom the Ploor? epresen a

Palmer . 11'Palkner : l'>1r . Speaker , has 'Jhak Bill mzearmw--t.liaytr ilbuted; 1'h:

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SpeakerzRedmondz ''Has the Bill been distributed? Bills up to

588 have been distributedw''

Palmer: ''The last one I have in my book is Nuier 944.''

Speaker Redmond: ''You do not have 571, Representative Palmer?

Representative Totten.''

Totten: ''Mr. Speaker and Representative Palmer, I thihk you will

find that Bi1l ly'ing on your' desk. That's where I found

mine, and 1 think everybody elses is there tooa''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Duff.''

Duff: ''Wellz Mr. Speaker, the last Bill in my book is 544 and

I don': have any Bills lying on my desk that a'ren't in the

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the burden of distributing both Bills and rAendments handledj '

by the Democrakic pages. There seems to be a breakdown onC (

- this other side. If we get you 571, Represenkdtive Palmer,

will khat suffice your objec*ion at the present time. Yougot it now? Representative Palmer nou has 571. He couldn't

find it because the noise distracted him. Represehtative

Palmero'' . .

ialmer: ''Mr. Speàker. It's 571.... 571 was here on my desk. But'

the last book in my Book is 544, and there's a vast gulf

between 544 and 571.': ' '

Speaker Redmond: '''Weïll take vhatever steps are necessary to .

see thht the books are brought up to date. Any further

objections to hearing 571? Hearing no objections, are there

any amendments from the F1o6r to House Bill 5712 Third

Reading. 584.'' '

'Brien: ''House Bill 584 . A Bill for an 'Act to amend the IllinoisO

blic Aid Code. Second Reading of the Bill. Two Committee '. Pu

Amendmenis, Amendment Numher 1. Amends House Bill 584 on .' Page 1, line 11 and so fortho''

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Lundy. kepresentative

Schlïckman . f' . ' .

. Schlickman: ''Mr. Speaker, I'm sorry, but I don't have a copy

of this and everyone else I've checked does not have a copy

. of the Bill or the proposed amendment, and I would suggest .

ik be taken out of the Record.n

Speaker Redmond: ''Objection is well taken. Take it out of the

Record. Meantime, I think we should have a conference of' the Pages immediately afker adjournment and find ouE what's

happening to the Bills. . Amendment 515 been received yet

Representative Schlickman; The Amendment to 515. l've been

advised that the Speaker made a mistake and House Bill 323' should be on Second Reading instead of moving it to third. <

Representative Griesheiner.''

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House Bi11 323 was called.Griesheimer: DMr. Speaker, ah....

The Speaker was not at fault. The Sponsor was asleep ln

his Chair. At least mentally. I'd like to have.this held

on Second Readingv''

Speaker Redmondt ''To be returned to the Order of Second Readingo''

Griesheimer: ''Thank youw''

Speaker Redmond: ''House Bills, Third Reading. On the Order of

House Bills, Third Reading, House Bill 5.''

O'Brien: ''House Bill 5. A Bill for an Act to amend Sections of

the Criminal Code of 1961. Third Reading of the Bill.*

Speaker Redmond: ''Representative Kosinskio''

Kosinski: ''Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the General

Assembly. Ladies and Gentlemen, House Bill 5 hits the Fost

vicious gun ever used by criminals, the sawed-off shot gun.

With Lhe savped-off shot gun, there is no previous Eraininghq

necessary if one can point his finger. One can be intoxicated

or loaded with morphine, and the sawed-off shot gun negates

the two-man squad car and commahds every situation. In

addition, it probably has the most fierce and psycological

affect in armed robberies. With the use ôf a saved-off

shot gun in conmission of a felony: khe possibility of es-'

h '-C/Yœb mass hemorage.capting death is remote. Deat occ 1

You may be shot in the shoulder with a pistol bullet and

survivey but once that sawed-off shot gun blasts: it tears

out the entire shoulder and mass hemmorage occurs. Itls

truly a fierce weapon. House Bill 5 brings the State's

Stakute into complete description with the Eederal description

now existing. Of barrels under 18 inches in length and the

Federal description of less than 26 inch overall length.

The Bill provides a Clxss 4 felony for possession of this

horrid keapon of one to three years and a Class l felony

four years up for the use in an armed felony. This is a

hit at a gun that has no value to anyone except the criminals

and I soliciE your vote.l

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Speaker Redmond: ''Any discussion? Representative Lauerw''

Lauer: '1Mr. Speaker, uill the gentleman yield for a question?''I ,

Speaker Redmond: NHe indicates he will. ''' '

Lauer: MRepresentakive Kosinski, is the possession of a sawed- .

. I 'off shot gunp as part of a leqitimate gun collection?''

Kosinski': ''Absolukely not. ''

Lauer: ''I mean, under this Bill, ah./.. say a collector of

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Xosinski: '1I am a collector of guns. I do not collect sawed- '

' off shot gunsw' Pirst of allyra $20: Eederal stamp is

necessary for the transfer of such a gun.''

Lauer : '' I see . ''

Kosinski: ''The documentary value or the collectors value is

actually nil. It's a œ secraG 6n ' of a good fire arm: the '

shot gun. You can buy khe shot gun ..legitimately on olle'$

floor of a department store, Walk downstairs to the base-

ment and buy yourself a hax-saw blade and you're a do 'it

yourself sawed-off shot gun maker. It has no relation to' collectors.''

Lauer: ''Thank you very much, Mr. Gpeaker.e

Speaker Redmond: ''Any further discussion? The question is shall -

House Bill 5 pass? All those in f a'zczve.xrypte 1 aye f , opposed

vote 'no'. Have all voted who wished? Take the Record.

On the question, the 'ayesl 157, Rnoes' :3, l present. The

Bill having received the Constitutional Majority is hereby

declared passed. House Bill 58./ .' '' O'Brien: ''House bill 58. A Bill for an Act to arend Sections of

the Parental Responsibility Lax. Third Reading of the Bill.%/ w

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Deuster: ''Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of khe House.

under the present Illinois lawz legal guardians of ûnemanci-

pated minors who reside with them are civilly responsible

for the willful or malicious acts of vandalism. This con-

, cept in the 1aw was initiated and guided into law 'by Rvpre-

' sentative Lewis Caldwell, one of the sponsors of parental

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! .! responsibility law. House Bill 58# raises the level of

the civil legal responsibilities from $500 to $1,000. '. Vandalism is a serious problem that is confronting and' . 1 .

perplexing many schoolse municipalities and individual I

citizens, park districts and okhers. I've distributed

an article that appeared in last Sundayls Chicago Sun

Times, outlining th4 wide spread nature of the problem.Most people feel that one of the answers is to take greater j

steps t: convince the parents to get tough with their ' I. ' jchildren and to encourage and provide an incentive to I

!parents to control their children. I have a letter from '

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the Mundelein Village Trustees, which is recipmxal I 14l

i k f the support for this legislation, indicating they Ith n y oii

have unanimously èndorsed ft, and they strongly feel that

responsbility lies with the parents and they hope that the!

raising of'the liability limits will obtain more parental E

attention and involvement. I think this is a good deterent i

and a good civil remedy that should be strengthened and I

urge Suppork of House Bill 58.11 ' I' . j

' Speaker Redmond: î'Mr. Bradlev in the Chair.N i

Speaker Bradley: ''Any further discussions? Gentleman from Cook,4 !

htr . Mutlalia?: . '' '

Mugalian : 1'Mr . Speaker , Ladies and Gentlemen of the Bouse , I

voted against khis Bill in Committee and just would like togive you my reasoning. I have a basic fundamenkal problem . -

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with laws of this kind, which imposes responsibility for. someone else's actions. I'm sorry to even see this law on

the books. I don't make a strong case against this Bill, but

would share wikh you these one or tv/o thoughts about parental

responsibility law, which would now, by this Bille double

the penalty. The problem of delinquency and the malicious' acts of youngskers, I don't think is addressed by this Bill.

The punishment could be doubled or tripled beyond khe penalt#

in the present Bill. In short, I think that this is not

really a deterent and it may distract our attention from

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the real causes of juvenile delinquency and of maliciousacts. Moreover, therels one other element in this Act, that

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I think may be questionnable. I refer to the burden on

a fanily vho may have a child thak is committed of dis-l

tïz tive acts, of having t:o pay $1 , 000 for thos acts . I '. , P'

Ithink we may be treating this problem in the wrong way and 1. i

. . this Bill may in effect be counter productive. '' ' i. I'

jspeaker Bradley: ''Further discussion? Representative Catania .

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fron cook-'' 1. I''Mr. Speaker, there isn': a copy of this in my Bill .i!Cakania:

book: and I can't find anybody else on this side who has '

a copy of it in his or her Bill book.'' ' I

Speaker Bxadley: g'Has Representative Deuster a copy?'' k' jD

euster: %'I have a copy and I just handed a copg of the Bill to l

my dear colleqgue: Representative Catania, and I have an

extra copy here. I'm sorry if it is missing. I'd be glad'

to read it. It only changes one word. Instead of $500,

it says $1#0Qû.''

Speaker Bradley: ''Does Representatfve Catania persist in hearinq

jj ' 'the Bill? .

j . 'Catania: 'Well, I think we should a11 get a copy of it. That's' whgt the rules say.''

1NEvidently we have aopies ah..... Other members 5Speaker sradley:

Iobjecting of nbt having copies? Representative Deustere j

!would it be all right with you if we took this Bill out of ;

. ithe Record for a few minutes. We#11 come hack to you very (

shortly .''

Deuster) ''Well, I'd be very hâppy for you to take it out for a :

. . few minutes until we get th'e Bills around. Thank youo* Ih

Speaker Bradley: e'Take it out of the Record. On the Order of ' '

Third Reading appears House Bill 59.1'I'

jSelrke: ''House Bill 59. An Act to amend Section l of an Act to j

, . $provide law in relation to jails and jailors. Thir; Reading ;...J' jof the Bill.'' ' 1

. < . jSpeaker Bradley: 3'Tho Representative from Peoriae Representative l- i

Schraeder. '' . ' If . . .

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Schraeder: ''Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. This is a Bill

that permits a unit of County government to establish a

jail or a facility outside the county seat as is pres'ently

in the law. This is permissive. I don't know of anybody

that objects to this. It also will allow something new

which will mean a cooperative effort between multi-governmental

units, if they do not neçd a facility in their own particular

county. It is very non-controversial. It came out of

committee without any problem and I would solicit an 'aye'

vote and if Ehere is any questfon, I'd be most happy to answer.'

speaker Bradley: ''Is there discussion? Representative Walsh.''

walsh: ''Will the gentleman respond to a question?l

speaker Bradley: ''He indicates he wil1.''

Walsh: ''Does this Bill deal with the ah.... Public Building. . 9

Conaission Ack2''

Schraeder: ''No: it does notm''

Walsh: ''Does it confine itself to .jails and no other buildings?o

Schraeder: ''Jail or jail facilitiesr, which could be juveniledetention headguarters, work relief and so forth. It's

just any jail facility.''

Walsh: 'fls jail facilities defined in the Bill?''Schraeder: ''No, Ehey are not, buE they' -attGtAjined in the Pre-

sent statutues.''

Walsh: ''How are they defined?''

Schraeder: ''I don't have the statute and I'm not an attorney.

Youlll have to askvsomebody else thatls an authority on:

that./

Walsh: ''Can we take this out of the Record until we get a.ai.

definition df jail facilities?''

Schraeder: ''Mr. Speaker, I'd like to ask the Majority Leader,it seems to me weVre having a little dilitory tactic this

morning. These Bflls have been posted. They've been fn.sl

the Bill book for a long time. This question was raised

and discussed in Committee. There were no Problems With

it. Ah.... and I just question Whether this is going to

hezp the movemen. o, .he Bzzzs in the uouse. But I will

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be glad to on the insistence of the Majority reader.'' . .

Walsh: ''I'm not the Majority Leader and Iàm not insisting on

anything.'' , . '. 1

Schraeder: NI forgot, you were last kession.''

Walsh: ''I simply think to vote on th b intelligentlyr we ought'

. jto have a dèfinition of thatz and I have not engiged in I'

. . jdilitory tactics.'' '

Speaker Bradley: ''Does the gentleman from Cook wish to have. '

. :this Bill taken out of the Record or persist in pursuing 1

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5 jthe Bill at this time? ,Schraeder: ''Well# if he insisks, I will take it out of the

' 1Record, but I'think it's dilitory.'' '' I

Speaker Bradley: ''Thank you, we will take. it out of the Record. i

Is Representative Caldwell seeking recognition?n i'- j

Caldl.rell : ''Not now . '' ' I

Speaker Bradley: ''On the Order of Third Readinge appears Rouse I!, Bill 87. . ,

!Selcke: ''Mouse Bill 87. An Act to lmend the Pair Employment

. Prackice Act. Third Reading of the Bil1.> I

Speaker Bradley: ''The gentleman from Cook, Representative Davis.> l

Davis: ''Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, House . j

Bill 87 is a Bill that will q'ive the=ootmm. ission powers. rve-

j * .We ve passed this Bill at least three times in the House '

. only to 'have it turned back in the Senate. This will put it in. . . '

. !. line with the Federal regulations and wedll be able tp

. handle the eases that have been referred to our Committees -. . l

- . under the Federal regulation. All i: does is give the

Commission the right to initiate charges after an investi-

gate and a vote by three or Vore commissioners.' I#d appre-. 1ciate the vote of everyone. Maybe 1:11 get a betker vote

in the Senake next time.n

Speaker Bradley: NIs there diseussion? The gentleman/ Repre-. 2 'x .

sentative Schlickman.'' '

Schlickman: ê'Mr. Speaker, will the sponsor yield for two questions?p

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S eaker Bradley: DHe indicates he will.'' .P

schlickman: ''Representakive, on Page l of the Bill, Line l6,. i', the words 'reliable written information' are usedy and IImI

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just wondering what is meant by reliable written infornation.''I

Davist ''It's the same as the Federal EEO. Let ne explain to

you, Representative Schlickman. The amendment to the

Federaf Fair Employment Practice Law compels any charges

that is lodged by any place in Illin6ii as an unfair employ-

ment practice, must go - must qo to the Illinois Fafr Employ-

ment Practice Commission. This ?as an amendment put in by

Senator Dirksen, and this is exactl# what it says, reliable

information. Nok you have a double check on a1l of the

commissions. In the first place, theyere confirmed by khe

Senate, named by the Governor and confirmed by the SenaEe.

And tbree of their commissioners must determine khekher or

not it is reliable information after the charges have been

investigated.l' .

. Schlickman: ''Well, I1m kold that reliable written information

are ccdtained in the Federal Act, but I still haven't been

told what those words mean, 'reliable written information'o''

Davisr ''Reliable written information means exactly what it says,

that it's not unreliablee it's been clearly investigated.

You are a maàter.at words. You are a master at word building

and certainly you know what reliable means. It means'after' the charges have been thoroughly investigated and ah... '-'

the commission finds that an unemployment 'act has been

committed, that the Commission will institute those charges.

It means this . Tlaàt ott of the 800 or 900 worfen who have to

haul their bosses in, and thatls just whàt's happening in, yntsfront of the Fair Employment Practice Commission, an po

their finger at their Boss and say 'you have discriminated

aqainst me, you've passed people over me. You haven't given '

me my rights as a citizen for prombyion, and she hag to

point. the finger at him and accuse him. This heans she can

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come before the Commission, give the Commission reliable

information, not unreliable informaEion and thaE the Com-

mission will send an investigator out that will investigate l

it and if whak she says is true, then the Commission will ' '/' . j

' rder a hearing on the charges . I don 't know hbw to tell !ov 1you any more what reliable means. That you Eay it s the !

. Iopposite of unreliable.''

!Schlickman: ''Do you know that khe rederal Government by rules ''

and regulations has interpreted what 'reliable written ' j

information' means.''

Davis: ''Not beyond the interpretation in Websters DicEionary.l

Sehlickman: ''My second question. Whht is the need and what '

eviilence is there of need to give to the Commission inititory

powtqr relative to the issuance of charges and added to that k

by'what amounts do you anticipate the number of charges

will increa&e? In okher words, whak affect will this have !

' on the workload of the commission?> i

Davis: ''We1l# let me say this to youp that the new Pederal funds '. I

will be used to hire sone extra investigators, at least

five investigatorse but in return for Yhis Pederal money, - !

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the Comnission must be able ko banfle at least 800 of those''m *v Icases to get that money. No'w they were only able to handle I

' !about 800 of them that had been before the Federal govern- '

è l able to handle about 300 -' '!ment or the EEOT. Th y were on y r

. And. the eommission estimates that 8433 new charges will be;

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' including the Federal ones added to 1,.,..

. doeumented in Ehis year.

. khel,l4l cases backlogged, mostly by women. Now you've..... 1 !

in tse senate, not you, you've tu'rned back the constitutional

Amendments or equal rights for womene and we don't know'

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whether it's coinq to pass or not. Ah argument has been over

there that we have a Fair Employment Practice Commission to

take eare of those charqes, but 1'11 tell you what kind of -

.' Fair tmployment Practice Commission you have to take care

of those charges. A woman must haul her boss in before' -

. this Commissfon, and if she doesn't haul her boss in before '

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across the Table from him and accuse him of being unfair,

and you know what will happen to her. she'll lose her

job whenever she does it, and this has been proven timeand time again. Now either we ought to pass this and put

it in lfne with the Federal line: because I'm going to

tell you something else, Represenkative Schlickman, all of .

the northern industrial skates have it. How can #ou hère in

Illinois, how can you here in Illinois turn it down when the ' '

. rest of the States are able to have it and the rest of the

States are able to handle the Federal cases.'' ' '

Speaker Brad'le#:'td'Are there any furEher questions?''

Schlickman: ''Yes.' Oh, yes. Yes, I had asked a two-part question

and I understood the gentleman to say that by the passqge: t

of this Billy' a number of charges filed by and before the

Commission will increase by 3:000 during the first year.o

Davis: ''I said.... just a minute, you misunderstood me. I '

said theybve been sending back that many eharges.l .

Schlickman: ''Well, do you know by what amount the charges kill

' increase. This has an effect on the workload of the Commission

and involves appropriations.'

Davis : ?'Nel.'-' , 7. can tell you vhat kha Coc'znission :nay:n . e' r/.

Schlickman: ''Would you? Just a numher. Just an estimate.p

Davis: ''The Federal Comnission will be able to complete investi-

gations of 1,350 charges this yearr khich will leave a -.-

backlog of 1,411 charges for fiscal 76, and then t5e Commission' estimates that 3,433 new charges will be documented, in-

cluding the Federal gne, and added to a backlog of lg4ll'

i: will be a total of 4,844 charges, 90% of themCaSPS,

women . '' .

Schlickman: kobkay, the first part of that two-part queskion

what is the denonstrated need for giving to the Commission

initiatory power?'' .

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.!Davis: ''Ifve tried to convince you the need is to stop Ehese

' . people from héving to face their bosses and go baek and

1 !' lose their jobs and to put it in line with the Pederal .

commission.''

Schlâckman) ''Does the Comnission have evidence, ihdicating

that there are unfair practices, enployment practices Ehak

are being committed: but which are not being reported be-

cause the employee is fearful of recriminatory action?''

Davis: ''The Commission does have that evidencer and it was so

kestified to by the Executive birector of the rair Enploy-

ment PracEice Commission.''

Schlickman: ''The gentleman from Cook, M+ . Palmerm''

Palmer: ''Mr. Speaker, I wonder if ue could have a little order.

. I can hardly hear Representative Davison A .

Speàker Bradley: ''The point's well taken. It's deafening. This

is an ,important piece of legislation.*

Palmer: ''If the Sponsor would yield ko a question. I don't

see in the Bill where àny investigative power is set up

in the Commission after the Commission has recieved reliable

information. Now the.... does :he Act now provide for '

investagory proceeding?'' ' .

Davis ) ''The act now provides for fnvestfgatozy prrvvM xengs J'Z'Z8' that wlll not be changed. The only thing that will change

is that after the investigation has been made and if on

a vote of three or more commissioners: if it's determined

after an investigation is made, that there are unfair

employment practices, they simply send for the boss and khey

. set down and they try' to reconcize their differences. zt

is in the Act.'' , '

Palmer: ''well, z don't see it. zt's not ln the underlx'neu words

and .....''

Davis: ''It's in the oriqinal Act.?

Palmer: >It may be implied, but..... The other question is khis.

Will the person who's called before the Commission be able '

to cross examination b0th persons or organizations that have

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Davis: ''No, because the person who filed the charges will not

be present. The investigators will be present and they'll

be able to cross examine the investigatorsy''

Palmer) ''Well, don': you think their might be some value in

having the person who inikiated the chargeso..a.''

Davis: ''We11 we've tried that. Wefve Eried that and we found#

out, and if you will examine the law in any of the large

northern industrial states, youdll find out that this is

exactly what the 1aw is. If you want to go to the Pederal

government EOCT Commission, theydll tell you that this

is exactly what the law is, that the reason for it isy

is that every time an unfair employment practice is charged

by a womanpagàinst her boss, they find some kind of way toik

fire her. And you want to bring her in and face him and

get her fired'. Is that what yî ou want to do?''

Palmer: ''No, I think that probably under our system of qovern-

ment, that we should have the right to confront witnesseso''

Davis: ''Well let me answer that. There's nothing in khis Bill

that precludes anybody from having their day in Courte and

if they disagree wikh the f indings of the Commission, the .

Courks are w-'' de open ta tlleltl. P --.ww..- M 2<

Speaker Bradley: ''Is there further discussion? Representatives

Gaines, the Gentleman from Cook.*

Gaines: ''Ah.... I wish to ansker the question that was answered

by certain momhers on my side of the aisle. All you have

to be is Black to know that there are discriminations. All

you have to be is Black to know that if you try to object

you are immediately fired. lf they can't fire you, they

A'mmediatély put other kind of mykhitudes upon you and it's

time that the Illinois Leqislature, Members on both sides

of the aisle, khat if they really and truly believe in .. ., . ' ; ' .

' '. -$#< a'Jequality, to quit nit-picking and give the State the ;. .

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Speaker Bradley: R'Does the Representative from Marion, Mr. '

Frederick..... The gentleman from Dupage, Mr. Hudson.''i t( Hudson: '%Mr. Speaker and M-mhers of the House, I have a great :! ' j

Ideal of respect for the Sponsor of this Bill, and I'm E

sure that Corneal is well motivated. He sees what he '

thinks is a situation that needs correction. However,

I did oppose this job in Committee and I did so for the '

following reason. I feel that in granting iniEiatory

powers to this particular Commission, we are extending the

scope and the power of the Commission beyond which it

really should be. According to the bill, it only takes

.. .. it takes a vote of at least three Members of the

Commission to decide to investigate and it would seem to .

me that once thàt vote has been taken, thak this investigantk .

tior. is already prejudiced agailjs'ï those that they' are .

investigating. The language of khe Bill doesnft even re-

quire that ùnfair employment prackices sha/l have takenplace. The language says that these investigations will .

take place in the event that ah.... an.organization =ay be

engaging in any unfair employment practice. It seems to

me that this could be the beginning of witch hunts. It

would seèm to me that again I say, if the Commission in

. requiring the Commission to decide in advance to pick out' 1th

ese cases that they are going to investigatee khey cannot j!

help but be prejudicedy it seems to me# in their opinion ---!

before they start out, and I question serfously whether

any organization, being investigated in such a manner, can '

receive a fair and an impartial assessment or judgement.

The question here is, basicallyyshould ihe Fair Employment1

Practices Commission sit as its prosecuting attorney, judge :

and jury, all in one. It didn't seem to me that issuance

of power was wise for that reason, and that is the reason

I casted a 'no' vote for this Bill in Committee, and wouldi

urge your consideration of these points as you' vote on this .

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1 : ' ' 'Speaker Bràdley: ''Is there further discussion? If notz the

gentleman from Cooky MX . Davis to close.''j '

. Davis: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker/ In response to the distinguished;

gentleman, I have the greatest respect for him./

Speaker Bradley: ''Pardon me, Mr. Davis. Por what purpose does

the gentleman from Peoria, Mr. Tuerk, arisez'' '

Tuerk: I'We1l, Mr. Speaker, I just have one basic cuestion of

the sponsor, if hedll yield for a question.N '

Davis: 'fA11 right, my friendo'' '

Tuerk: ''And this is basic, Representative Davis. Why do you

feel that the machinery that is now existent will not

allow any complainkant to file a complaint to the FEPC?''i' j

Davis: ''I dondt.... the machineryo... they do file complaints,

but they must appear in person and charge their boss with

an unfair smploymenk pracEiue ard tha purpose of the cop-

mission making the charges after a thorough investigation I1

and not only after a thorough investigation, but after a

vote of three of more commissioners. The purpose is to save

, 1, ithat person s job. . . i

Tuerk: ''We1l, my question, though, is# there is machinery availa-

ble today that would allow me, for example: as a complaintant

. to file tne complaint that l have been discrirtinated agaihst.

Isn't that correctz''

Davis: ''That's right-''

Tuerk: ''Then why give the FEPC a1l this fnitiatory power when, .-

in fact, there is a procedure available to each and every

one of us who wants to file a complaintz''

Davis: ''Al1 right, I understand your question. Let me go over

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Speaker Bradley: ''Representative Tuerk. I believe the gentleman

has answered that question once and we donft want to carry

the dialog on. He indicates he'll answer it again, thoughy

' so wefll listen to him again.'' . '

Davis: ''The man who's gone.....'' ' .

Speaker Bradley: ''Representative Davis, weell recognize you to

ahead and close the debate, and answer the question for 7'go

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!Davis: '1My distinguished f'riend and. he is my friend, for many '

years here, the Dirksen Amendment fnsfsted that anytime ,

an unfair employment practice charge was filed with the '

Federal Commissioner in Washingtony Senator Dirksen in-'

jsisted and put in an amendment that those charges would E. ' j

b f d dan't you see, to Ehe Illinois Pair Employment 'ie re erre :' t

Practice Commission. Now this is the Dirksen Amendment. !I!It's a part of the EEOC, the Pederal EEOC, so when a charge !

' . 1if filed with the Federal Government, they send the charge i

in here to bur Commission and what I'm trying to say to you

' is thfs - I#m trying to make it clear tha: our Commission, IIthe Illinois Commission on Fair is unable to investigate !

those charges for the simple reason they have no individual

complaintiff. It is a charge thak the Federal Commission ', # .

has investiqated. It's a charge that the Federal Commissioners li' d so when those 1have lodged and found it to be true, an

charges come to our Commission, they have to send them back.

You have said I can elose the d#bate. Let me just say this.' . I hold 'in my hand here an article that was vritten sometfme

ago fn the Sun Tâmes: in Februaryw which it saide IThe ease

backlog for investigation will continue to grow. The back- -

loqs in 1975 is ant-' cit ated to bf- Gr.eq-Nzr ''chan the invesci- .' v * - n vayw, g . . ,.

gators can handle, even if neW allegations are received'. L '. '!

For the simple reason they keep sending them back. I also .

hold in my hand here a headline from the Chicago Defender. '

It says 'The Illinos Fair Employment Practice Commission ''' .= received Tuesday a number of complaints about discrimination

in January from women and Mel Jorden, Executive .Director, Z '

. said PEPC will b: well over 400 complaints received, lûû' Percent of them more than the Commission has ever had in a

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back, our Commission lFEPC and you have to continue to send khem. . i

will almost be ineffective, because'women do not want to sity 'across from their boss and say 'boss, you know what you ve .

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have been women who have run an institution for any number '

of years and just simply because of a sex, she hasn't beent '

given the title. The man has the title. The man leaves or'2 '

retires and they bring a new man in to take over the job.She mus: show him where to hang his hat. She has Eo show

him everything to be done, and yet she fs denied, àimply

because of her sex, khe right to have that job, and I tellyou that is unfair employment practice. And if she goes in

and makes this charge, she has to face'the 'peqple who run

that institution, and the truth is, she will lose her job

she's worked on for More than 20 years for having tried them.

I tell you Ehis is something khak all the northern industrial

states have and some of the southern stakes has it, and I'm ..

telling you this House is a liberal house. You have never.

defeated this Bill. It's been before you at least three or

four times and youfve passed it. And I plead with you, with

all of the power in me, to pass this Bill gnd send it on to

the Senate, because perhaps wefll have a cood chance nowy

since they tell me they don't use the pocket proxies over

there. Since they tell me they donft indulge in undemocratic

action over there: where they bring you into a Committee.

The last time this Bill was defeated in the Senate, the

Chairman of the Committee made a mokion that the Bill do not

pass and seconded his own motion and brought ouE enough

roxies to f ate it. I ask you, what is more undemocratic ' ' '- ' 'P

then that? can you really call this the land of Lincoln

when right now more then 1400 women are begging f or f air

chance, an equal chance. I ask you wha: for? To be the

V' 1 House that I goliberal House that you are. Be the 11 era

all over this State and brag about and talk about. I go al1

over the Nation and brag about you and tali about you. When

they tell me, when they tell me, when we don'E have in thisz

House a liberal, l tell them, yeowy'the House is liberal but. gonpt .the Senate turns us back. This is the only reason we . .

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p Give me a yes vote on this Bill.'i

speaker Bradzey: ''vhe question ks, shall House Bill 87 pass? .

All in favor will vote 'aye'. Those opposing will vote

'no l. Eor what purpose does the gentleman from Cook, Mr.

Telcser arise?'' '

Telcser: ''Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. We have Mnmhers .

on our side of the aiàle that want to be recognized for '

i ts of parliamentary Inquiry. I think the chair owespo n

it to Members to recoqnize Ehemo'' ' ' .

Speaker Bradley: NWe recognized Mr. Davis to close debate and

then the light came on for Mr. ToEten, and at this time

we will recognize Mr. Totten. We couldn't fnterrupt the

closing of debate. Mr. ToEtene from Cook.H t

Tottenz ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Point of Order. Ah.... there is

. . . . It is my understanding, there is an amendment to this

till which significantly changes the content of the Bill

and we donît have a copy of the Amendment.o' '' ' i to see if the Amendment's been 'speaker Bradley: We re check ng

distributed. Representakive Davis, kill you hold it just' a minute please? You tot it? l!a . 'Potten , iz ê s indicated

to me that they have been distributed. Representative

Gaines has a copy of the Amendment. We have it on the .

Democratic side. Ah.... I think the Amendment's been dis- . .-

tributedy so weAll go ahead with Ehe roll call vote. Por .

what purpose does the Representative from Cook, Mr. Yourell,

arisez '' 'J

Yourell: ''To the Point of Order raised by Representative Totten.

I think Third Reading is not the time to bring up the Point'

of an Amendment. That should have been done when this Bill

was on Second Reading. If you didn't have the Amendment on

Second Reading, that kas the time to bring it up. Not now.

This Bill is on Third Reading.'' ' j . , ..,

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Speaker Bradley: ''We1l the Chair has ruled that the Amendment

has been dlskributed and it is on the Members desks, and

welre on the roll call, Third Reading. The... Representa-

tive'Totken's point is not well Eaken. Have all voted who

wished? For what purpose does the gentleman, Representative

Duff, from Cook, arise?''

Duff: ''Mr. Speaker, in light of the comments that were made

relative to the Amendment, I think it is appropriate to

explain a vote briefly. I have the Amendment on my desk,

Mr. Speaker, and because it was not addressed adequately '

in debate, in explanation of vote, I will only say, that

the Amendment does not, it does strike the.iBill frdm the

enacting clause and it then does go back to the Majority

of the vote. It does not underline the major changes thytare made. On Lines 17 and 18 of Amendment Number 1, part

of that it sàys that a complaint has to be made in writing

under oath or affirmaEion, and then the changeb simply says

'or by the Commission upon a vote of at least'thrpe membersê

and I think itls significant khat a charge has to be made

under oath, and yet the Commission hay do any darn thing

it pleases without limitation or definition or inhibitiop ofowany kind. It is a total grant of total znitiatory powers

to the Commission, and it is, in my opinion, far: far to

broadly written to be able to vote forvp

Speaker Bradley: e'Have all voted who wished? The Clerk will take

the Record. On this queskion, we have l08 'ayes', 28 'noés',

5 voting 'present' and this Bil1..... Representative Davis

votes 'aye' and Bradley votep 'ayef and Shea votes 'aye', and

. . . Brandt 'aye', and this Bill, having received a Constitu-

tional Majority, is hereby declared passed. Welll go to *heOrder of the Resolutionsg''

Selcke: ''House Joint Resolution Number 26. Shea. Resolved by

the House of Representatives of the 79th General Assnmhly

State of Illinois, the Senake concurripg herein, when the

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House of RepresentaEives adjourns on Friday, March 2l, 1975,

stand adjourned until Monday, March 24y 1975 at twelve

o'clock Noon and when the Sènate adjourns on Thursday,

March 20, 1975, stand adjourned until Monday, March 24:1975 at twelve olclock Noon.''

Speaker Bradley: ''Representative from Cook, Mr. Madiganz'

Mr. Sheap''

Shea: f'Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, this is u

the adjournment resolution. When we adjourn today, we will

djourn unsil tomorrow for a perfunctow sessson and khe'a

Mnmhers will be back in Regular Session at twelve ofclock

. Noon on Monday. We will be in session on Monday, Tuesday

and Wednesday next week, and when we adjourn on Wednesday,

' wè'will adjourn until April 7 for the Easter Recess, so that#

. next week, we'll be in session Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday.

d committees will be heardThe schedule is that the Tues ay

Monday afternoon and the Tuesday and Wedne'sday Committees

will be heard at their reqular time and place. So nowe Mr.

Bpeaker, I would move that we do now adopt the Adjournment

Resolution.''

speaker Bradley: ''Prior to doing that, for what purpose does

Representative Màtijevich arise?''

Matijevich: ''Mr. Speaker and Momhers of the Housey Representative

Shea, when we come back after Easter, do we come back.... is

the 7kh a Monday or a Tuesdayzp .

Shea: ''The 7th is a Monday and we will, at this time: be coming

in at four o'cloek on Monday. That has not been cleared. We .

haven't agxeed with that on the senate but tentativel#: that's. f

the time, four oîclock Mondayo''

Matijevich: ''I would ask the leadership to consider that wecome in Tuesday and work until rridayy because the Thursday

Committees meet so late and as you know, get away day: people'

like to leave and we could, not only have a late commfttee,

we could also get our committee report out and then the '

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Friday meeting would àtrictly be a session of the House

and everybody gets out early. 1' think it woùld work vout

a lot better.''

Shea: l'Well, John, let me say this, welll discuss it, but

the tentative schedûle is to be in Monday through Friday

of this week.''

Matijevich: ''Thank youo''

Speaker Bradley: ''The question is on the ad4ption of the

Adjournment Resolution. Al1 those in favor, say 'aye'y

opposed 'nol. The Adjournment Resolution is adopted.'ïBack to House Mills on Third Reading. On the Calendar

on the Order of Third Reading on the Supplemental Calendar,

Supplemental Calendar Number 1, appears House Bill 91,

and it ls in nTrnerical order and the Chair at this time,

will have.... the Clerk pleas'e read the Bi1l.''

Selcke: ''House 3ill 9l. An Act to amend Sections 2 and 4.of

an Act authorizing certain counsies to undert4ke localimprovemenks, define its powers and duties in such counties

in respect thereto. Third Reading of the Bi11.''

Speaker Bradley: ''Gentleman f rom Lakey Representative Deuster. ''

De aster: ''Mr. Spnakez , badifas and Gûntlap..g...!u of the Hpusei. t.hl)H& X

first thing I did was look into the Bill book and this

Bill, House Bill 9lr is in the Bill book: and Amendment

Numher l's in the Bill and Amendment Number 2. Now this

is a Bill, as amended, which will allow the People to re-

quest of their county government the provision of certain

services for which they will pay certain improvements: and

it also provides a safeguard' in Amendment Numher 1, so that

if the request is initiated, and after they find out how much

it costs, they donft want it, they can turn it off by signing

a petition. It does allow the County government to providrthe services that are designated in the Bill, and there are

just four things they can provide for fmprovements. Sanitarysewers, water mains, walks and street lights. All of these

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are also in the municipal code, so there's nothing here

that county qovernment could do that the municipalitiesj '

can't and matter of fact, th: authority is less. There

are the safeguards for the taxpayers ànd'the people in

that, under the law, there iust be a hearing and not only

that, notice must be sent a letter to each property owner,

and then amendment number l provides that alter that hap-

pens, if they find out that it's too costly, they don't

want it, they can sign a petition and stop it all. I think

it's a good Bill. It will help the County government provide

services to the people that they really want and it will

also discourage the necessity for the proliferation of

the creation of special districts. I think it's a good

bill. It will help my county and other counties to serve

the people well, and I urge the adoption and support of

House Bill 91.',

Speaker Bradley: ''Is there further discussion?' If not, the

question is, shall House Bi1l 91 pass? A1l in favor will

vote 'aye'. Those opposing will vote 'noî. The Clerk will

take the Record. Gentleman from Cook, Mr. Schlickmanop

Schlickman: ''Thank you very much: in explaining my vote - this

vote was up for èonsideration previously at Third Reading and

at that time, I objected to the Bill. I objected to it be-

cause it gave two counties local improvement or special

assessment authority that far exceeded what is provided in

the Municipal Code for municipalities. To the credit of the

sponsor, he took the Bill out of the Record, took it back

to second Reading, wknt to the Reference Bureau and did

amend this bill in accordance with the Municipal Code. I

think it's a good Bill. It's one that gives to our counties,

the same authority that municipalities have with regards

to providing necessary public benefits for the residents

of incorporated areas. Improvements such as streets.

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Improvemènts such as sanitary and water sewers and done in1

such a way that if majority of the people to be affected

object to the assessment, they can prostrate it by filinga petition. By that mekhod, there is an extra safeguard

in khis Bill for residents of incorporated àreas that does

not exist in the Municipal Code. I think it is a good 3ill.

I think it is a necessary Bill. I'm most appreciative of '

the Sponsor for putting it in the form that he has and I

do solicik everyones.support.''

Speaker Bradley: ''Have al1 voted who wished? The gentleman from

Adams, Mr. Mcclain.f'

Mcclain: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker, would the Sponsor yield to

a queskion? Oh,....'I

Speaker Bradley: 1'Mr. Mcclain, I'm afraid we*re going to have

to rule that question out at Ehis time. Weîre on.../you

can explain your vote if you want.''

Mcclain: ''All right, maybe the Sponsor could respond back in

his explanation of his vote.'' TG at I'm curious about, 'is

% if a àewer district in an area, which wou' ld be J'. .,.w at

within the the mile and a half zoning right'in municïpalities

would this be affected by this Bi112 Could the County

Board t*en move on that issue?'''N w .

Speaker Bradley: ''The gentleman from Lake, Mr. Deustere ko

explain his voteoH

Deuster: >In explaining my vote, I would aay that it's my

understanding it would have no effect on that. Existing

districts would not be affected by this. This would simply

relake to new areas where the residents do seek an improve-

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Speaker Bradleyt ''Have a11 voted who wished? The Clerk will take

the Record. On this questione there are l43 'ayes', 5 'noes',

10 voting 'present'. Thfs Bill having received :he Con-

stitutional Majority is hereby declared passed. On theOrder of Third Reading appears House Bill 118.*

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Selcke: ''House Bill 118. An Act to amend certain laws relating &

to publication of notices. First Reading of the Bill.Ri

Speaker Bradley: ''The gentleman' from Franklin, Mr. Hart.''

Hart: ''Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, and Ladies and Gentle-

men of the House, this Bill amends the Act on publication of

notices. The bill was amended in Committee at the request .

of Mr. Mcparland of'the Chicago Law Bulletin and it no

longer affects Cook County. The purpose of the present

law reqarding publication- is to provide a notice that'some-

thing is going to happen and interested parties should make

kheir positions known. The structure of the statutesg how-

ever, provide a way where the spirit of the law can be

violated by bearing the publication in .a newspaper in a. >

city or village other then the one in which the gubject

matter is situated. This bill would amend a pùblication

act in al1 counties other then Cook to provide a better

procedure for notice where the subject matter of the publi-cation is within a municipality having a newspaper, and

would provide a better way for persons interested to

ictually receive notice. The Bill came out of Commiftee

14 to 1. I'd appreciate the support of the House.''dSpeaker Bradley: ''Is there discussion? Does the gentleman wish

to close? The question isg shall Mouse Bill 11: passz All

in favor, vote 'aye', those opposing vote fno'. The Clerk

will take the Record. Fred, will you vote me 'aye'. Have

al1 voted who wished? Geo-Karis 'aye'. Simms 'ayee.

The clerk will take the Record. Giglio 'ayee. The Clerk

will take the Record'. On this question, there are l35

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. ' d 7 voting 'present' and this Bill, havingayes , noes an

received a constitutional Majority is hereby declared passed.

on the Calendar, appearing on Third Reading, is House Bill

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Selcke: ''House Bill 122. Schraeder. An Act to amend Section 14

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1 speaker Bradley: ''GenEleman from Peoria, Mr. Schraeder./'f

Schraeder: 1'Mr. Speaker, Mnmhers of the House, this Bill is: ,

and 1911 pinpoint khe explanation very quickly, so that'

the Minority Leader on the other side of the aisle knows

that this was a Bill which cleared the House in the last'

two sessions without any dissenting votes, got clobbered'

ih khe Senate in ,the days when they killed a11 House Bills. .

If there are any questions, this is a Bill that the County '

Board in my district feel khey need. It is not controversiql. '

Itîs permissive, and what it does is :llow the County to .

build facilities outside *he City of Peoria and that's iE.'

Itls permissive only and I would.seek thè support of the

Minority Leader on the other side of tie aisleop

Speaker Bradley: ''Further discussion? The Rçpresent -ative from

Peoria, Mr. Mudd.''

Mudd: ''Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, there's

two reasons why thak I feel a little weak this morninq on

getting up and speaking before the'assembly. One of them

is that parEy last night. I'm still a little shakey around

the knees. But there is opposition to this Bill. The

other reason is tha'c a fellow representative from my district

presented this Bill. I strongly oppose this Bill because I

think what it does, it expands an already Policy of allowing

public buildings to be built without referendums. Itfs a

back door policy that this Legislakive Body passed several

years ago, and I think if we expand on this policyr wefre

doing even a deeper injustice to the people of this State.

The more imporEant issue involved in cost of governmenk today, .

the Public Buildings Commission levied Revenue Bonds. Those

' bonds go at a percent or percent higher then general obli-

qation bonds. The actual cost of building under a Public. < ' w

Building Commission Act is much higher and costs the taxpayers

much more money. I would hope that the People of this House. ' ).' '' :.

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bago, Rtpresentative Simmsp''

Ssmms: ''Well# Mr. Speaker, and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House, '

I rise in opposition to this Bill, and let's 1ay the cards on

the table, the object to the Building Commiision Act really

was to circumvent the will of the People who have voted

, z . 1down certain projects àt Public Feferendum. What this does, Z. . E' !$ .

basically: is just expand upon that and continue to abolish t:'

the will of the people where they have turned down speèific

projects at the fublic éeferendum, and this just opené Tthe Z. ' '. 1

. :door even broader to use this vehicle of building buildings i

that have have been in many cases have 'been not approved by

voters at Feferendum; and I thirjk this is an imposition on y' the taxpayers' of Illinois tq expand the Building Commission

Act to authorize the construction of buildings. t.be public

improvements, and other facilities beyond the County Seat '. .t

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' in which that Commission was orignally established. Basically, !.

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-'d for'the simple kbaàon thatthe Building Commission was establishe .' k

many of these court houses . . . ah . . . were turned down

many times to Public Referendum. The Legislature needed a c .'-NMvehiçle to build these . . . ah . . . facllities and in their

wisdom they passed this situation on; but now you're seeing:

a case where they want to expand the P/ovisions of the Building?/ j

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Commission, go beyond the County Seat, and open up, in .- 0

essence, the old clichl of Pandora's box. I think this is aJ' '

. . terrible abuse of an essence of abusing what the taxpayers -- have said. If thev had said pno'' to building a buildingr that's

the way, in my opinion, it should be) and I don't think inten-' tion of the Legislature khen the Public Building Commission .

Act was approved by the . . . ah . . . General Assomhly was.: j (L; . . ..

' . ever intended to be a catchall' for other projects to be .

built throughout the County in kheir respected areas) so I do.

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Schraeder: ''Mr. Speaker and Members of the House, first of all#jj '

the two opponents who spoke, apparently, didn't read the'Bi11, because it doesn'i have anything to do with the refer-

endum, the provisions bn réferendum are still therei'this

Bill only moves the sight of the . . . of the Public guilding

Commission of . . . bullding outside the City of Peoria or

outside the County Seat, and I wonder if the Representative

from Winnebago realized that the Republican Counky Board of

Winnebago rate Ehe citizens by defaulting on a Referendum

and then the . . . they put the building up and, as a conse-

quence of that, as I understand, that the Denocrats took over

the Court House . . . ah . '. . I don' t know whether Repre-

sentative Simms knows about that or not. . . . Steve,'$' ' ' '

is Just a mazter of simrle placinq of a Dzblic BlTiz.dsng out-

side the City of Peoria in the County. Our County Board

wants to build a mani . . . a Maintenance Building for County

Construction of Roads and Highways. They want it close to

where the need is4 Ehey don't want to put heavy equipment

. righk in the City of Peoria and thatls a1l they're asking.

Again, I would report this Bill came out of Committee 16 to .

nothing. Its the same Bill that was sponsored by Represenka-

tive Day on the Republican side of the aisle last year and' the year before. Wenk through the House without a dissenling

vote and got killed in the Senate in the last daysiof the ' ' '-

Session only because of timing. Againp this is not a partisan

Bill it only allows that County Boards to build where they '

want to in the County. I ask your support.* '

Speaker Bradley: ''The question is shall Hozse Bill l22 pass? All

in favor will vote ''aye'', those opposing will vote Pno/.

The Clerk will take the record. While we're taking the record,

the Chair would like to request that anybody who wishing to

get on the Roll Call that they would cone down to the . . .'

' ah'. .. . Clerk's desk and get on the Roll Call and we#ll

save some time of the House. ah . . . The gentloman from

Pqoria, Representative Mudd--

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jMudd: ''Mr. Chairman, in explaining my vote, I would ask the

House to consider one important factor. Peoria is one of

the most àffluent non-employable areas in the State of

Illinois. One of the ten in the Nation; and America is

the best in the World, and thaE puts Peoria in a pretty .

pretty good position on building anything they wadt to

build to serve khe'people of that County. And I ask

you to let the people decide by referendum if they want

to build these buildings outside the city. Please vote

''no'' on this Bil1.N

Speaker Bradley: nFurther discussion or explanation of votes,

Representative Walsh, did you wish recognition?''

Walsh: ''Yea . . ah . . k Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen

of the Houseg meaning no offense to the Sponsor of this Bill.

nor to Representative Bob Day, who was referred to by the

Sponsor, I certainly can't see where this is a good Bill and.f

ree with the previous Speakers that what it'does is extendag

a bad principle to provide even further abuses: more abuses.

What it does is remove from the County Seat Governing Board,

the remlirement that they vote to a . . . approve a projec#<

by the Public Building Commission. Nowe I sugges: to youy

Mr. Speaker: that that is not a qood ideae that the Bill is

ill-advised and that we shouldn't at this tfme when people

are short of money and besieged kith taxes be extending a bpdy.

that takes upon itself the authority that belongs with the

people to votb the kaxes upon themselves for improvements to

the . . . their public buildixng. so I suggest to you that

this is not a good.idea and that you ought to vote *no/.n

speaker Bradley: WHave all voted who wfsh? The Clerk will take

the record. on this question there are 98 pyeses*, 38 Hnos/

16 voting >present/; this Bill having received the constitu-

tional majority is hereby declared passed. On the Calendaroll Third Reading appears House Bill 132.*

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Seleke: OHouse Bill l32 # an Act to amend Sections 3,8,4.ar1 7,a !1/5 fied' k. ' . . .

code oi correctlons Third Reading of the Bill.'' :

4 * -. .Speake< Bradley: pThe gentleman from Cooky Mr. Porter.e

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Porter: ''Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House: House 4

Bill l32 prohibits disciplinary yestrictions On the youths

. at a prison law library by the inmates, except for abuse of .

the facility. It seems to me ridiculous in this day and time

that we should incarcerate a person /or violating the Law

' and then fail to do everything possible to encourage' him

to persue the Law. This Bill has the support of the Depart-

ment of Corrections; it passed the Judiciary Commitkee 20

to nothing, and it was also voted by that Committee to be

placed on the Consent Calendar. By error it was not placed

on that Calendar and has gone through the normal process.

I . . . I have no objections to the Bill and I encourageyour affirmative vote-'' .

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speaker Brakley: ''Further d.s scussion? If not. the qnestson is .

shall' House Bill 132 pass? A11 in favor vote Oayeî', those

, opposing vote nno''; the Clerk .will take the record. Have

all voted who wish? Take the record. On this question' there are l40 ''ayes'' no ''nos''; this Bill having received#

the constitutional conven . . . ah . . umajority is hereby '

declared passed. Leon ''aye''; we would appreciate if t:e '

Members would like to :et on the Bitqe sL they#d come doml

to the Clerk's desk and get on the Roll Call? down here

wbuld àave time of the House. On House BilM ,yThird Reading '

appears House Bill 139, for which purpose the Chair recognizes

. the Gentleman from Macon.'' -

Speaker Bradley: ''Read the Bil1.>

Selcke: ''An act making appropriations to the Department of

children and Family services . ...R

Speaker Bradley: oGentleman from Deca . . .* '

Borchers: *ah . . . This Bill is not . . . ah . . . I have a lot' of material that's not ready . . .*

/. speaker Bradley: nTzke it out of the record. On Third Reading

appears House Bill 163. Read .the Bil1.'' ' .' . Q '--t - ; - - . ' . . '.-:.ç..j,. c

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k Bradley: 'îThe gentlem' an from Kane, Mr. Grotberg.l' iSpea er'

Grotberg: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the

, House, House Bill 163 passed out of this House.last year

with l20 and some votes and uwab.:- put in Senate Rules be-

cause of restricted nature of last year's Session. I

would remind you that this Bill 163, deals with the dis-

closure of the costs of printing in the State of Illiùois

and in the State of IllinoisfGovernment only. It has been '

' amended several times, and its final amendment read to do

the following: That every Department of the State of Illinois

Government, not local or schools, by only the State of .

Illinois, every co-department and Commissidns only of the

Legislature, not Committees or Reference Bureaus or that

type of thing, musf; if they print l00 copi'es or nore of any- ''

thing for public consumption,'pùt èn the face of the book-

' let or paper the cost . . . the promulgation of the cost of

that document. Now, this Bill pursues an interest of mine

and it shculd be an interest of each of us thqt the printing

costs of the State of Illinois have long been a mysteryy they

are almost impossible to find. This Bill may or may not'

change the printing costs; but i: wille at least, tell us

who the offenders are. I would remind you thak as wé go

through the budgets of the various Departments, we iill find

in fiscal '75 an item of printing on the printing line in

budgets of about eight millions of dollars in appropriations.

This is just a tip of the iceberg. The biggest part of theprintinq costs of al1 of our Departments are under contractuals.

Friday afternoon of this last week, I sought from that wonder-J

fu1 computer that they now havé here the invoice vouchers

for the Xerox Corporation for Calendar 1974. Now, Ladies

and Gentlemen, I would like you to know that the State of.4 '

.'. Illinois paid Xerox Corporation 3.4 millions of dollars just .

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. for space consumption.. It is worth noting that a lot of .

' . . that is internal and will hever be affected by this. '

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The State has several print shops, many of them which you

can throw rocks and hit from where welre standing her'e now.

The contractual printing that we have been able to find is . .

in tie nature of 17 millions of dollars, so when we vote' appropriations and vote for 8 million dollars of printing,

we should know nou that wepre already to the 25 million dollar

mark. I am advised by the General Services Department and

several sources within State Government that it is very

' Possible that we are kpending 100 million dollars a year for '

printing in the State of Illinois because we have not as yet .

' been able to get the University system to disclose any of

. their costs. Therefore, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House,

Mr. Speaker, I have asked for the Bureaucratic Disclosure

Bill, that this is# tltat whoever is printing should at least*. . $ .' ' tell what it costs. There is a companion Bill . . . ah . . .

' ' for the . . . ah . . . Legislative Council to run a tèst on

this subject for a two-year period to see what it brings

forth. It is within the perview of every Depgrtmenk to

promulgate such costs with no added expense to themselves. . '

' It may slow down the presses a little, but . . . ah . . . -

havinq printed many things myself/B<féi'ivou've determined to .roll those presses, you can identify the costs. Therefore,

Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the House: I would

urge that once again we keep the DisclosurezBill to the

o. bureauracy of the cost of printing in the Public- eye and

. would move that this Bill passl' z'hask for a favorable Roll .

Speaker Bradley: RFurther discussionz The gentleman from Cooky '

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Berman: >Will the Sponsor yield to a question?/11 1: ' ' ' ' >e'Speaker Bradley: He indicates he will.

Bermnn: pDoes this Bill apply to the . . . ïàh.'.. . . Print shopsï. .

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' lik h Universities that 7--' ' do rinttng for ,'. e . . . a . . . . . . p

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' profits where they . . . ah . . .' publish books and sell

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Berman: ''Well what . . .'' ; ' '#

Grotbeyg: ''In some cases they are . . . ah . . . foundations of

their own, if I am correct in my analysis. Representative

Berman . ''

éerman: ''Well# I can understand the kationale where we want to

try to check' on all the paper that flows across our desk, ' .

but those are . . . or seems .to me to be more in the profit-

. making, hopefully, profitmaking and commercial enterprises

. . . ah . . . Would #ou object if they were taken out from .under thisz'' ' .

Grotberg: ''Wel1: the ors#inal objection . . . ah . . . Repre-

: ' sentative Berman, was that they were not included, so we .

went to some considerable efforE Eo amend them in ; . . ah '.

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'. I think if ' such a thing would occur as. the dialogue .

increases ' on this subject maEter, . . . ah . . . I am amenable ..'to Senate Amendment or somewhere in the process we expect

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Bem an : '' I wouldn ' t want t'o ''doD it up .today , ' but I . . . ; . >

Berman: 'îThis has been brought to my attention, I . . . I'm nok

sure I understand the rationale for keeping them in. I can

understand the rationale in . . .r

Grotberg: ''Right.''

Berman: >. . . House Publications . . .>

Grotberg: OThey are the biggest printers and these are in house.' r

' publications as regar; to the university system.,

Berman: ''Well, I meant in relation to books that they sell to

. the public-''

speaker Bradley: 'Are you . . . Have you concluded Mr. Berman?#

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L'.-, Mr. sermanl could we cone . . . are you concluded or could

we come back to you . . .''

Berman: >Wel1, . . . ah . . . let me, merely, point out the

. e ngrossed copy *hn't Ifm looking at would appear to exclude the

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agency that I'm talking about, the ones that print books '

for sale'. k . ah . . . if you have no objeçtions for keeping

them out, . . . ah . k . and will adjust your'self to it in

the Senate, then I . . . I hàve no objections.l'. t ' j

Grotberg: ''I have no objection to work with anyone who has an ,1.

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jinterest in this subject, Representative Berman. It . . . ah I

. . . Its the thrust of the legislation is to identify cosks

of khose people that are publishing at the State's expense: -'

who are in many cases for their own self aggrandizementy in

many cases justifiable, I am pot questioning at this Point

anybod#'s motive for printing anything. I think i:s the '

publicls'right to know is at stake here and o'f all the Pon-'' sumer Bills wetkqehéd V l00 million dollars would r'un the.

Department of Childreha and F'amily Saririces . ''

'Speaker Bradlev: PAre we proceedinq with the Bill, Representa-

tive Grotberg? By pursueing the Chair's usual impartiality

there's . . . ah . .' . Representative on the pther side' ' of the aisle, Representative Palmer was se-ksnk' recognition,'

' does he still seek recognition . . . or .. . . Representàtive '

. Palmer? Did you . . . Representative Getty, the gentleman -

f rom Cook, pardon me , the gentleman--fkcfm Cook, RepresGxtativeDG

Beatty.D

. B tt : '''Re Representative Grotberg . . . ah . . . by '' ea y P . . .

this Bill aren't yoù: in effect, actually increasing the cost' and actually adding Yo the problem that you are trying to

'' , solve by now having to have someone to figure out the costs;

and aren't vou also addinq to qovernmental red tape of which' '. jyj jj . .. we ave an awful lot? :

Grotberg: wThank you, Representative Beatty, that question has

. been brought up and asked several times; the facts are if

I'm adding to the costs of anything by telling people what it )'

costs, I Ehink we could apply that philosophy to Ehe . . . '. ' ' . . '' . !' . .. I

everything we do. The . . . the standard costs can be es- I. . . rl .

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so many tons of paper, and we go through 50 tons of paper,

incidentally: in the State of Illinois every month . . . ah

. . . there's a price on paper; these are al1 known factors.

: If youlve got time to write the theme of the story you're

trying to say, I say take another five minukes and then

. weRve got enough people in our bareauracy to handle that

without any additional costs. A little new . . . a little

new problemz yes, but it might help them to learn before tiey

roll those presses that it cosks money and that people are

. going to know what it costs; and I think thatês the thrust

of it . . . ah . . .1' '.

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Beatty: ''In okher words: you're trying to omharrass people who

are publishing to watch the volume and cut out unnecessary

printing?''

GroEberg: ''Yes, . . . ah . . . you know you can make that assumption

you can call it mmharrass, I'm saying consciousness. I .

think we have to be conscious in this era of shortage of

papet and s'nortage of everything and high costs of the voloae

of this subject matter; and if the people should know: forinstance, I did a newsletter in my district and I tried this

on the back of it, I did a 741/2 cents Per copy for so many -thousand copies and told the people what it costs. I got

more good comments on it . . . on that and you don't have

to do it, I've exemp#ed the Legislature, in our wisdom, fromthis drink, so that if any of you're wôrried about your district

office or anything, we are exempt. except for Legislative

W *Commissions . . . ah . . . but ze 'an interestinq factor, you

know, the daily paper puts a price up there at the top .':'.z..w )

Beatty: ''Thank you, Representative, khank you.O

Speaker Bradley: 'Eurther discussion? The gentleman from Union: 4' Mr. Choate.W . '

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I1 choaEe: l'ah . . . Representative Grokberg, one questionz and I

think you gave a qualified answer and I,.to be qùike frahk .. :

with you, this depends on whether I support the tegislation

or not. I share with you the concern of the kremendous

ampunt of taxpayers dollars that g'oes into so terribly much

. spending and much of it is duplicatedseven times over,that .'

you or I or no one else ever looks at is filed in file

thirteen, and you know it and I know it; but, Represenkakive .

Berman asked you a question that to me will get right down .

to Ehe nitty gritty of the thing, that the press down at

Southern Illinois University does do some what we miqht call

no More than commercial printing. ah . . . This is a ', w 'return on the investment as far as SIU is eoncerned . . .

Grotberg: ''Right.'' .. . .. '

Choate: ''. . . and I would hope that if the language is not C

. . explicitly clear that this type of printing would be exempt

that don't give me the qualified answer, say *yes/ that you ' '

' . ' will take in an Amendment to exempt this type of printing.l

crotbergr ''clyde, Representatlve choater'the answer is an un- ' '

qualified ''yes'' on commercial printing for profitiil think ' ''tL ''' ' '

that that's a business of its own and ft helps to keep our. u ''''NW . .university system going. : ..

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.- Grotberg: ''And 1'11, lmmediatèly, draft such a thing for the Senatex

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Choate : ''Very good . '' '

' C G X 1 ZVCX OO6 C ' 'XC . C V Y % *' Speaker Bradley: lFurther discussion? The gentleman from Cookr

Mr. Greiman.*

Greiman: *Will the gentleman yièld for a question?'' .

.speaker Bradleyr' >He indicates he will.e '. 1 1' '

Greiman: *Mr. . . . ah . . .> ' .

speaker Bradley: wplease make it shortk.e ' '. - . ' '

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cation, shall élso be analyzed as part of the cost. Is'

;' that still in the Bill?'' 1. ' I. ;E . i

Grotberg: ''Yes, thatris still in the Bill, that is Section . . .'' '

Greiman: ''Well, O.K., Mr. Speaker, I . . . that's a ratheri

sophisticated cost accounting procedure, I would think. Welre .!

talking about the preparation of a document, we're talking '' about what goes into it . . . ah . . . Ehe analysis that

wenk into it, the dictation of it, I suspecE under this u. . . I

you'd have to have secretaries salaries analyzed. .-lf.khere

was a discussion among mnmhers of an agency, their salaries !IIwould have to be cost accounted out

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under this mandated statute it would be an impossible thinV.''' '.' J I think, also # that we would f ipd ' ourselves breeding a

whole new bureaucratic . . . ah . . . group of jobs. We'dhave . . . ah . . . printing analysts I and printing analy:tà '

'II afker a while, then weîd have a Director of Publication

Analysis and pretty soon we'd have a Bill that would give

scholarships to people to become publication analysis and' eventually, I am sure, there'd be a Code Department. I just

. . . I just think that that we're, as Representative Beatty

said, ïiha: wedre jurt really increasing the costs by an

impossible cost accounting procedure in this Bill.@

Speaker Bradley: lRepresentative Grotberg, do you wish to reply?''%

Grotberg: @If I may, thahk you: Representative Greiman, for that'

healthy criticism. Now, the facts are, if you will restrict

your thinking to the printing for 'public use, Representative

Greiman, the thought processes that have been missing in this

area for so long . . . ah . . . had better star: Being applied II

pretty soon and Ehescapabilit# for such processes are withinevery Department. They figure up the cost of everything else !

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so there's no more or ào less than that. This will not inter- i3 :

' fere with i nter-h ouse communicationsy it has nothing to do

. ' with the everydày'.operations of s Eate government. It has . ï' , j

onlv Eo do with those articles that are mailed out for public i. . ' . .

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consumption.''1r ' ' v1.Speaker Bradleyt The lady from Champaigne Mr:. satterEhwaite.

Satterthwaite: ''I ask', if the Sponsor would yield for a questionz

lease?''P .

Speaker Bradley: ''He indicates he willoe . '

Satterthwaite: ''My question relates to that of Representative

Greimanz I wanted clarification as to your intent that this

would include a11 of khe preliminary work going into the

. publication and that the staff time you're talking about is '

not simply staff time involved in the printing process.?

Grotbergz f'No, its in the preparation of the document.''

h ikO2 DThank yOU.% YSaktert Wa

' Speake'r Bradleyz ''The çenkleman from Cook, . . . ah . . . Mr. .

Maragos.'' .

Maraqos: ''Mr. Speaker and Mnmhers of the Rouse, this Bill has

''' been adequately discussed and, therefore, I move the p'revious' , tion '' ' = -, . . .. . que S . .. . .

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speaker Bradley: ''The previous question has been moved. A1l

' those in favor say l'aye'' those I'not'; the ''ayesn have it.# . .

' .' ' The gentleman, Mr. Grotberg, to close debate./ -

' Grotberq : ''Yes , Mr . Speaker z and Ladieù-v risizcentleman of the .

Housee I think therels been enough dialogue on the Bill.

- Again, the khrusk of khe Bill is a simple disclosure by .) . .

. ' ' those who use public moneys for public information and '

often times haMe the . . . credit for their DepartmenE or

their own personal leadership of a Department enclosed in

' . such documents. Let s tell the people what it costs, and I. N

'' would move f or a f avorable 'Roll Call .> '.'

Speaker Bradley: ''The question is shall House Bill l63 pass?

' All in favor vote Waye/, those opposing vote *no/. The

' entlc an f rom Macon, Mr . Borchers . * ' i. 3. : g..

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.' Borchersz >Mr. speaker, and fellow Momhers of the Höuàe: I rise '

- ': ' ' in support of this Bill and I want to show you a few things. .' . . . : ' . r . . '. w : w . . . .. . .@ . . .. : > t .( ;- w ê .' .1 .

. ..''.,, . .'xrt , Now, here is a pamphlet or a book of one of our Departments . .

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is the . . . ah . . . accountability budget. I wank you '

to observe the cover. Here's another one and another one

d another oneievery one of these yamphlets could just as z ian . . :

easily have been made with a small or white sheet; buty'in- ;' j

stead, some of them arq usually thick and very expensive.. !

'' I think ità high time we try to reduce the cost of printing l

in the State of Illinois. A five years ago I mentioned it E

before, I'm very happy to see that.Representative Grotberg ''

has tried and is trying to do something about it. So I

urge the support of this Bil1.''

Speaker Bradley: ''Have all voked who wishf The genkleman

from Kane, Mr. Grotberg.'' '

Grotberg: ''I'would like to have the opportunity to explain myvote if I may?'' ' i

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Speaker Bradley: ''Go ahead.''

G/otberg: ''ah . . . Again, the justifiable fears thak go with

something like this are symtoms of what the thrust of the'' Bill is. Those of us who have to account for the public

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' '' every day and sit in this fish bowl and ask ladies and ' i

gentlemen to watch us on the floor accomplishing o' ur mission ' ;

are not 'at all like tha avnrage lersart--mfant that gerkerates!

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tremondous printing costs. This is all done in khe back. . 2

room where nobody can see it. I was amazed yesterday after-

noon when we were vfsited by a distinguished gentleman from

. Chicago and he said, 'Wha: are you doing in the House of '

Representatives that's such confusion?' This gentleman

' happened to be the President of a major bank in Chicago. And.I said if ''w u'nkduld'''p'ut a callery around the back room of

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''' 1' your bank instead of around the lobby, you would qet the .

- ' ' . ' same questions asked of rour business. Nobody knows what

: . goes on in your back room and I'm here to tell you that by '. ' . ;! '

: and large the public éoes not know what goes on in the back' ' . room of our hard working bureauracy; and that we've got to

c;:. , have them and I'm a1l for them. All I want them to do is .' lj' ' ' -J 7) . , ' . . . . . . . . qL1. ..

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4. j- .-'g.(;.'n. , ,.. ., . . j, ttv - , y s uffer through the s ame spot l ighi o f di sc lo sure that each ' I. k . . . . . . . j

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here and then daily after he arrives on the scene. I seej . .. . . .

we have 92 votes and I will see some desist.'' ' 'u-'' 'j . ' ê v

. speaker Bradley: ''Have all voted who wish? The Clerk kill take

! the record. On this question there are l08 ''ayes'' 25 ''nos''e #

' 6 voting ''present/. This Bill havinq received the constitu- .,.

tional majority is herebv declared p'assed. On the order of

Third Readinq is Eouse Bill 184.,1 .. .. . . ..tg

. rf.' t,n ; k -. .Selcket House Bill 184: an Act to nmend the Revenue Act o'

Third Reading of the Bill.? '' '

I speaker Bradley: ''The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Schlickman.'' .

Schlickman: ''Thank you very much, Mr. Speakerl Mr. SpeakerI .

and Momhers of the House, House Bill 1:4 concerns itself '

. . with the problem that confronts real estate property tax-' '

. payers who either, inadvertently, have paid an installmentI .

' '' twice or in those eounties where the acceleratèd method of

' billing is employed they paid the first installment bill and

., discovered later that the . . . ah . . . total bill for the. . z . , . .

' ' ' year is less than . . . ah . . . the first estimate. Pre-

. sently, there is no statukory authority in the Revenue Act s

by which the county collectors can make refund of over-payment. . . . . . ; . ''*.

. . taxpayers. a zs ailz as amend'e, . . . ah . . . zizzsy' ''N ux

'. that void . . . ah . . . that presently exists in 'the Revenue

Act. The Bill as amenced . . . ah . . . Nas co-operated in ''.. ' ,:* ' 1 j. ... . . .y . . ., . j . (7 : . . .by the Cook County Collector has his support and the Bill '

. ' ; ' '' * 'was reported out with :he recommendation do pass by khe

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Revenue Committee by 22 to nothing; and I solièit-yqur'support./. . . ' , 'z . '

, Speaker Bradley: ''Further discussion? The gentleman wish to ,

close? If not, the question is shall Hduse Bill l84 pass?' . x . '. . 7

Al1 in favor vote ''aye/, those opposinq vote Wnof. The. . ' ' l ''s = Clerk will take the record. Have al1 voted who wish? Take.. . . . . . :

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' ' : .. . .. . . .2. - 1 . .;#.y. . .. th è rd on ehzs quession there are z4a wayes's' ho pnos-e r CO . @ . '

. .. .' 2 voting wpresent''. This Bill having received the constitu-. . -

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. tional majority is hereby declared passed. On the order of. ' .- . . . . . . ; . . . -. .

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Third Reading of the Bill.1'

Speaker Bradley: 'lThe gentleman from Cook, Mr. Leinenweber.l -.?

' Leinenweber: ''Well, thank you Mr. Speaker and Mpmhers of the '.'

. House, this is probably one of the least important 'Bills to

come before this session of the Legislatute, however, its ' - -

also a good Bill. Two years ago, this Legislaturees wisdom. ' ' ' ''

. ' . :& . 'sought to require the prfnting on mechanic's lien and ze- . .

leases a protection statement. Eor the prokection of the '

owner of this rèlease should be filed with khe Recotder bf ' :

' . Deeds in his office, the claim for lien was filed. We man-

. ' dated that'the lettering be bold, at least l/8 . . . ah . . .

l/4 inch in heightkt House Bill l89 redùces that requirement

from' l/4 to l/8 inch in height and this is being pressed forby the kRecorders Associ aticn . , I wouls rea; n'erY briefly f r.3m #

a letter of support from'Recorder of Deeds of Dupage Countyyv '' a, . * *' - ''' ''- .

' 'In dis'cussing this particular Bill, we are al1 of alike V

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opinion. It is mosk apparent that we receive these documentsv'' in the mail bearing the statement that said notice is being

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imprinted over other important numhers and words in the

contents of said documents, affectih'g saMe to the point that'' ') .. .j . ' '. - L

j we cannot determine the correct spelling. Often there is not. : ' . .;

. sufficient space for the stamping of the record dates and ' . .y 1. ' . '- numher and other pertinent data; furthermorey in soMe inskancesy

' we have 'found that is was impossible to photograph a repro- - - --

duced document satisfactorily.' This does not mandate that: ' ' ' '

I ' the dotice must be l/4 in'J. in height; but it cannot be less '') . . '

' than l/8ih. in heiqht'l, therefore, whoever had any statements. . '

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printed up are still valid and useable. I urge ado>tion of' '' L ' ''

House Bill 189. . .. . .: '

speaker Braaleyz ''The chair apologizes, Harry, if you will from .

' now on. Further discussion? Does the gentleman wish to 'r.'

. close? Pardon me, the lady from Lake, Miss Geo-KarisaO ' Q. . . . . ' . . ..z. ' e .

' ' ceo-Karis t lah - . . Mr. Speaker, may I address my co= ents to .r. .,..':. , . ' . .

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should be l/8 inch size instead of 1/4? I didnêt quite get* -

' your loqic on thake would you 7'usk restàke it for me. I ' . .

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- Leinenweber: ''Well, the smaller prinking will fit more easily. . , . . . . ,

. on the 'release and the Recorder's have found that the . . . . .

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t illeèible other a=' portant màtters in the m-chanic's lièn k''l f ' . . . . . . . 1' . . .

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Geo-Marzsl Thank you. . .. . .

Speaker Bradley: ''Further disucussion? If not, the question is

. ' shall House Bill l89 pass? All those in favor vote aye y '. . .

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those opposing vote ''no'' We ' 11 take a .R011 Call vote. .. .' '* .

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' rave all voted who wish? The Clerk will take the record. .L1, w p p w '

' - ' on this question there are l24 ayes . 6 nays y 7 votlng.

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'' resent/ This Bill having received the eonstitutional ' -.P * .- . . .

majority is hereby declared passed. On House Bills'on the. ' <

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f ,.- 'order of 'zhird Readinq appea' rs House Bill l95 . nead the B1ll .*x?'''1v zaw.. ' J

. O'Briqn: 'House . . . nouse Bill l95 Brtnkmeier, a Bill for an .'''#' .

. ' . . . ' . . . rz. '' Act to amend sections of the School Code. Third Reading of ,

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' ' & '-the Bill. ' '

speaker Bradlev: pThe qentleman from oqley Mr. Brinkmeier.* '

inkmeier, wMr. speakere it is uow stephenso' n county/ it shouldsr

be corrected. Mr. Speaker, and Memhers of the Eousee . . . ah'

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. ' of the Digest. Nok,v'uhder the exzstlng schooi code, if a ' '

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' school distriet fails to provide the minimum school term of '. . .

. .. y. .gyq . . . .. . . .. 176 elass days, then the SEate Superantendent Is required to

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, ' those days that they were shork. Now With the posslbility:. J . . . . . . . . r, - '' . ) ?; . .. . ' .v:ï . % . . . . ,= f i is arising again itz another yeark 'o .i.s ' ... '.' 'f..'--'.h'.. . . u.. . : . O an enerW Cr S . . g. ,v .

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even: that a school ià forced to close down becauee of the. . ;

energy crisis that they will not be penalized. I would --, . :

point out thak some of you may questiony why extend the .. .

' school term? Well, if this is donee and it may be done#. !

' then the school board must pay all those school employees ..'

for the additional time that they are in school and that

. . . that is the basis of khis Bill; and I know of no . '. . . . . .. I

, opposition and I urge your supporto/ . . .

' Speaker Bràdleyr 'fFurther discussion? The gentleman wish to. . .

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. Brinkmeier: nI just . . . ah . . . urge your Javorable vote.? :Speaker Bradlev: ''The queskion is shall House Bill l95 pass?

. All'those in Tavor vote ''ayel: those oppose will vote ''nof'.. . . . ' .

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Wefll take a 'zoll call vote. Have all voEed kho wish? V '.: . .. .

The Clerk will take the record. On thfs question there

are l47 ''ayes '' l ''no'' no voking 'tpresentr'' nobody .

:' ' ' voting ''presenE/ on this . . . Bill having received a '

constitutional majority is hereby declared passed. On Third' '

. . jReading appears House Bill 199. The Clerk will read the '

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Bill . #' . l. ' '

. j' !O'Brian: ''House Bill 199, Maragos, a Bill for an Act creating E

' the Illinois Commission on Delinquendy Prevention. ' Thi/d ' :. ! p . . . ., A '. . . . .

Reading of the Bill . ' 'u..,' .,. . ' . I. . . . J...... .. - .

Speaker Bradleyk l'The genkleman from Cookg Mr. Maragoso/ ' ' .'' Maragos: ''Mr. speaker, I would like to say that I'm one of the

. . . . . ( 'Chief Co-sponsors of this 3illy the other one is Representa-

e ' ' .''. tzve capparezzz ana a' zso another very acttve co . . u chief 'b' J .'

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' Co-sponsor is Representative Caldwellz and I'd also like ko .'' '

u. say that two very distingulshed gentlemen on the Republican'.. . , . . . . .. . . .

.Q. ' side of the àlsze, Representatlve collins and Representative . .'.h ked very azligenszy as wezl as' Represensattve ' '. .'': . Lauer , . ave wor -. !5 -

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because something has ariseinoe'.rLAt this tim' e 1111 take it

t of the record . '' '' '. ou ...... . . .oy

Speaker Bradlev: ''Take it out of the record. On Third Readinq'

. appear's . . House Bill 206. Will you read the Bil1.N k'' .;' ' O'B ' '1H se Bill 206 a Bill for an Act making an appro- 'rzen: ou ,

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prlatlon to the Mollne Heatlng and Constructlon Company.

Third Reading of the Bill.'f ' Q '' ' Speaker Bradley: ''The gentleman from Rock Island, you wnnt '

. . ik out of the record? Take it out of the record. On '

the calendar on Third Reading appears House Bill 24 . . . ' '

' ah . . . 222. Will you please read the Bill.''. .. a g l.# .

OlBrie'n: House Bill '222, Londkigan, a B1ll for an Act to amend '...

' . . . . p * ' -.. 'Sectlons of the Illinois Penslon Code. Third Readlng of '' . . . . . . ' . '

. !( .j.. 41 . . . .' ' .the Bn. . . .

. p yj . . .). Speaker Bradley: f'The gentleman from Sangamon: Mr. Londrzgan. ..

. . q . . . . .' Londrigan: ''Mr speaker, and Lad-ies and Gentlemen of the H'ouse, '

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* ..C * * ' ' 7.. . this Ball nust extends the time In whlch a State employee ... ' . . .

who has retlred early may get back Into the system by re-

.. ' paying the funds. It now provides for a one and two-year

p ' : - '-'' : eriod and this extends it Eo a three-year p'erzod. In '. P , .' @ @ # 3-***** D''M *addltlon, thereto, there s a very lmpdrtlnt Amendmenke whlch-.

-.,.' ' makes the Bill even better and the present Law better, In ..p . ; . . . . . .; ..'''''' ' z' ' that 1 t provides when they repay ' thi s money , they do so at '' '. . . . . T . :

- ' f t interest. This was put on with the approval '' '.t . a our percen .

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.. . of the state Employees Association. So I ask for your sup- '' Port of this Bi1l.> . n-. ,1 ' ' ' . '

... '' Speaker Bradley: wFurther discussion? The gentleman from Cooke

. % ' ' ' J'' . . .1 + ' -Mr . Schlxc% an. . ..

r J. : ' . * > * j: s s or W e1d f Or a. CIICSYIL OR? W. .s:. Schllckman: Mr. Speaker, wIll t e Pon .. z ) - Q. . . . . . -.' '' k, - ' s eaker Bradley: wHe indi cates he wi 11 '' '' ' '-zrw 1E7, .' . .. .. z , - . . . . .

.L-.' Schlickman: >ah . . . We are informed that our . . . pension funds

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Lbndrigan: ''There . . there was no fiscal note requested by

anyone. The cost will be very, very small bacause wedreN

. ' >.k.only talking about State employees, who hlve retired and '

this gives them an opportunity to put the money back intq'

. the system when khey go back to work; and, now, webre

making it, specifically, more sound because we're putting

on a four percent interest that they have to pay. Now,

they don't have to pay anything. So what the Bill does is

extend the period in which they can get baek in to three

years and also put the four percent'interest penalty oh

top. So it will improve the system.p

Schlickman: ''Could you be more specific as to the anticipated

COSY? lî

Londriganr ''No, because no one asked for a fiscal note. I

would say, though, that . . ah . . you can understand .'. .

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that this only applies to State employees who retire, fhen 'z

they come back into the System. which is going to be a snall

nnmher and the only thing my Bill did, originally, was give

them a longer opportunity to pay back their funds that they

have taken on retirement back into the System.l

schlickman: ''Oh, I know what youlre doing . . . ah . . . I was

just wondering what the cost would be and I guess àll':thàtwe know as we vote on this, is that it will be relatzvely

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Speaker Bradley: lThe gentleman from Cook. Mr. Totten./

Totten: nThahk youatMr. speaker, I Wonder, in this casek none of

our Bill books here have Bill 222, but we do have the Amend-

Ment. Mr. Speaker, none of the Bill books on this side of

the aisle have a copy of House Bill 222e and if . . .. ohy well,. 'z- . : ''' . ' . . . ' . .

we do have the M endment . > . .' . . ..' ' ': .' . . .. . :: . . '' . IJ ' ' '. . . . . . , . + : : .. ï' t . '' .' L.. J ) .

Speaker Bradley: DHouse Bills up to Numher 588 have been passed. . v . .. '. .. : ' ' .' ' ' ' 2 '

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' Speaker Bradley: ''Wel1, we . . . we find that those Bills are

' on the desks on this side of the aisle and . . . ah . . . I '

' . . would hope that they'd been passed out on that side.l N '.

Totten: ''Wel1, I wonder if he would pull it out of the record,

. . we have . . . we . . . I know Representative Schlickman'' doesn't have a copy or Minority Leader, Representative Wash-

' ' ' burn doesn't have a'copy in his book, I don't have a copy in '' m kook Representative Danlels * ' . ' '' .'. Y a #

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' speaker Bradlev: >Do vou . . . are they not in the books 'or are, '''' '''

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l. t . . . . ' . .' ' they not on your desks?'' . . .. '. '

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'' h t . ''' ''.'. the V oks or on the desks '' ' ' ''Totten: T ey are no . .

. ' Londrigan: 'They were put on the desks yesterday when we voted '' .

body whn repays the poney ko pay a four percent interest ... .*

Totten: ''z have the Amendm'ent, bu't I don't have . . . we don't have

. the Bill. The ,Amendment's on our desk: but the B1ll I.s not '

' the desks '' .'' '' . . On . a . ..4.( . A '- . .

. Londri an: ''The Bill is not in your book?u ' %': . - !:12 . . -. . .t -.

. Totten : No . . . ' . ,, ..u. .'.. ' ' . ' . . .

' S' s eaker Bradley: pThe .'. . ah . . . it has been brought to the -. . . 17 .

Chai z ' s attenki on that the Bi 1ls are.-i r-uwwotlle Bi 11 bnoks on '-.h. e ,'' r. . ..w. . 1... . , . . ? .' . . . . . . o'ij ..' . .p V y- -

.' .' Democratic side and I would suggest that you talk to the Pages. zf

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. , . . 4 .. :. on the Republican side to flnd'out why. if they are noty why . ;. .- .. . . . ank. . ' . . . . . . : .. ' $..' they're not therevm Representative Washburn.w ' 7...9? '' ' ' ' *. ' -. . . .. .:& .; , . . @ , . $: jS.

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, Mr..speaker and Ladzes and Gentlemen of the . .. . j. w . ::. . ,. . . . . y)g . r . jf..

' '' . . House , we have talked to t e .. k,.. . . - . . . i) ' . . .t : ' . . J . 'Y ' Z1.v - ' ' . p i . ' .; .7. . i

.t.' . ' and they infom me that they don't get our eopies of the -,,, ' '. . ' 'b. - 2. . . . .. ; ' œ. ; . d . .. gbl'i .. ; jg:. . .. . ., :r:.. . - Bills until they re dzstrlbuted and put on t e. . . , j .. .

'' ' side of the aisle, and whatever zs left over, we get. - .. . ! ; * t '. ' (,.%

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does.à/pear to the Chair thkt the Bills were in the Bill

book on second reading, when the amendment was adopted,

so if the,pàges will check ind see where those bills are

and distribute them smmediatelY. >1e!1l go ahead to House

Bills Third Reading, House Bill 228. The Clerk will read

the Bill.''

O'Brien: ''House Bill 228. Geo-Karis. A Bill for an Act to

amend Sections of the

Bill.* .

School Code. Third Reading of ihe

Speaker Bradley: ''The Lady from Lake: Mrs. Geo-Karis./

Geo-Ear s: ''Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the House,

this Bill, the amended Bill, extends disciplinary authorfty '.'

to certified education employeess through the grounds owned: :

or leased by the .school board and used for school purposesv'''

and activities , and se ilarly it extends authority to these . ... ' . . r ' . ..y

employees, to demand âdentificatiôn and purpose of visit of MD-.

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any #erson èntering the grounds. Purpose of the Amendmentz''Amendment Education of

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Chicagoo.... I'm just trying to explain myself, all right?

They doù't have the Bill, I guess.d'

1, was to' include also the Board of

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IT . v.Speaker Bradley: Pardon me, Mr. Palmer.

Paimer : ''Mr . Speaker , h: don ' t llave 228 in .the book either azzd

several of the rest on this side: don't have the B1lls.*sc:Sp

eaker Bradley: ''We're gèing to take just a minute here and. 1

see where these Bills are. For what purpose does Mr. Totten --

ar 1 se? ''

Totten: '!Mr. Speaker, for a point.... I wonder if the Sponsor

wquld mind checking sefore we call these Bills in their

own Bill books to make sure we don't wàste the time.o

''That would be helpful; howevere the Chair isL*.2 - .

going right down the list of Bills, calling them in nunerical

order. ''

Speaker Bradley:

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Speaker Braoley: ''The Chair would appreciate it. Mrs. Geo-Karis.n '

Geo-Karis: ''I'm sorry that I have to report that it's not in my

> ok either '' ' : ' .

. Speaker Bradley: ''All right, ve wl'll check on that one. We wâll '

m .go àhead with House Bills on Third Reading, House Bill 249.= '

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The Clerk will read the Bil1.@ . . .

O'Brien: ''House Bill 249. Raysona A Bill for an Act to amend'

Sections of the Illinois Horse Racing Act. Third Reading .

' of the Bi11.'' -* :.

Speàker Bradley) ''The genkleman from Cook. Mr. Rayson.'' '

- Rayson: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members of the House. House' Bill 249 established criteria for the Racipg Boaro to

evaluate those kho are being assigned racing dates. .The

Amendment to the Illinozs Horse Racing Act, the same thing/ .

that's in the Illinoâs Harness Rccing Ack. vsomehow, when

' Ehese laws kere changed in 1967, the criteria was not es-

tablished in both Sections'of the Code. . This Bill caml out

. of Committee by a vote of 21 tooo and I solicit your suppork.''. . , &'

- ' Speaker Bradley: ''rurther discussion? Anybody take..... A1l

i ht the ventleman f rom Cook , Mr . Kosinski 11r g , . . # .

Kosinski: ''Will the Speaker respond to a question, rakher khe 'l . . ' : . ! '' Sponsor'respond to a question?'l ---.mx= '

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' ' Speaker Bradley: * ''He indicates he will .* ' ' . ''''' ' ' ''. Q w. ' '. . ' x .

u' - .Kosinski: >Mr. Rayson, were Racing Board Membersy Mr. Scariano'!!. '. . . ' . .

. or others, in Committee at the time this Bill was heard?'' '

... Raysonr NNo, because khey had supporked this Bill in the last. '.-' session. . '' . . . .

' x ' ki o h s * ylpp . . . . .- . oslns : They do support t e z. .

. J. x % . .7' - Raysonz *Yes.'' . ' ..:.:3 .

. .. Kosinski: ''Thank youo' That answers my questiono- .

' ' Speaker Bradley: pFurtber discussion? The genkleaan to close.*

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r ' Rayson: .1 sola*clt your favorable voteoe. * . ,

- . '; . ., . . .';L Speaker Bradley, OThe question is, shall House 8111'249 pass? '

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Wefll take a roll call votet Have al1 voted who wished?

Bradley 'aye'. Vince, will you put me on there, please?

on this questlon.... Take the reaord . The gentleman from .

1y ' ' ' ' ' ' . 'Cook, Mr. Rayson. . .

Rayson: .''I'd like to explain my vote on this. Apparentlyy --X. Q ''f' .

there's some confusion with all the lights on. I don't

. know what the deal is, but ah.... I donet know if somebody's

trying to tell me a message or what, but this Bill adds to .

. the Illinois Racing Act those criteria which are in the ,

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. Illinois Harness Act, and if this has the support of the '

Illinois Racing Boardg and it never got a hearing in the '

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' Senate two years ago, and ah.... welre just correcting thecodes for something that should have been in there a long. 7.

txm' e ago. It merely establishes certain criteria that the ..

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' Board must use in establishing racing dates to the applicants.

It should have a favorable votea'' .'J . '. ' ' ' Q .

Speaker Bradlev: R'The qentleman from Lake. Mr. Matin'evich. ' '

' . for what purpose do you rise?'' t . '. : . , . . . . .U 1. -2. ' . ' ;t '

' Matijevich: 1'Mr. Speaker, I'd like to explain my votd if ites

not too late. As the Ciairman of the Executive Committee. '' . X ' '.'

. ' . we did hear this Bill. Now I think I '. may understand why '

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there ' s .k lot. of prtiser. k vokes oz. tkle Boarél. Really ft rca - '

. ' . .:'. lates to a problem that I think involves the f act that the .

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' leqislature in manv of the states all around the coun are '

being investiqated for just about everything, and really we -=.-X '

don't have the freedom to vote our eonscience as legislators. .. . 1, y .

We've Seen reporEs that if you may vote yes or no on a raeing '.,Q. . : x. . z . .è. . :., . . , r c. . . . az. x. '. .. .. 2 . .*

. ' bill , you may be investigated or you may be sub . It ? s Z ,..1 1.. . Q. 4::1 m .Lt'/' '

going to be very difficult to vote yournconsèience in this Lf'J'. . . . .. -1 xj.ù j)..', k,

Legislature on any racing bill, for example: whether it's - .. %... . . . . C! a''%. kl#

good or bad for the geople of the State of Illinois. On mnnye''. ...' . .. j

many issues, many legislators are going to have pause to vote è'',i. .... ..

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. ' racing dates..qk'' . . '': . . .

speaker Bradley: ORepresentative Matilevich, if you would please

let us cuk in. We've been advised we called a little early' '

. for khe.... to take the roll, so we're going to dump this

' one and ask for a neW roll call.''. . . Ns -o' ' Matijevich: ''Al1 right, well, I will just close in saying that '

I think it is a'good Bil1.''

Speaker Bradley: 'lThe switches are now open, and the question is

shall House Bill 249 pass? All in favor, will vote 'aye', u

those opposed will vote 'no'. ' Representative Matijevich, '''' to continue with his explanation of his votewl .

' ' Matijevich: ''We1l, I just want to conclude by saying this is

, '.. the dif f iculty we have in f reedom +bat we have as legi slaton

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' on issùes such as this. I have a feeling on every racing

. , bill that may 'come before the legislaturè, many people are- '

not qoinc to vote, whether it's a good Bill or not, and I

' ' think that's unfortunake, and ah.....# but this is a good'

.- Bill. We ought to look into the character of such applicants

. ,. .J . ' 'kût' ' and ; woul.d tlrge yOl1 :0 VOVC V YES ' OR YhX* S Ciii X7 . . e. y .

' Speaker Bradley: ''Are khere furkher explanations; . The gentleman. . . .. . . . . . ' '

' . from Cook, Mr. Mugalian.n Ak .t= ! ê ... . '

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4 '. ' Muqalian: ''Mr. Speaker. in explaining my vote. 2 have the Bill

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. .. .: . in front of me to detee ïne for myself exactly what this. lq ' ..' ' . ...,.' ' 7. Bill does, and lt states that fn allocating racing dates. ' '

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..'.i L.'$ . <'' these are the criteria that shall be considered, and it seems

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,>. ' to me without this kind of mandate to the Raeing commission,' . ' :' 'a . .' z .. j. .. oz- ' ' we ean do dzsservice to our constituents and to the State.

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.A.'k.,. M d these cri teria are : the character z reputation, experi ence''!: . ; . .m' ; .

- 'n' ' and financial stability and integrity of the applicant. '/ . .

' ' ' . Pacilities and accoxmodations for the conductinq of racing

! ' 'V'meets and the loeation of the track in relation to the' z. ( .: b. . , . ' c . . .?c' .,,. . .

' r principal centers of population and the highest perspective. . .5 . ' ' ' . .

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.. >. x . ')... ';.''. . .' total revenue to be derived by the State in the conducting- .

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' 'the Racing Commission has no standards. and that the door's.. . . r . .j . . . .

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Speaker Bradley: ''Have all voted who wished? The gentleman '

from Eane, Mr. Hi1l.'# l .

11 . '.7 - ' 'Hill; Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the Housee I d

just like to say this, that if the present Racing Board-'loGn h-''

. :he State of Illinois don't understand Nhat is good, l think. . ( .

it is pantomine, then, that we sit here and pass a piece of ' '

legislation to explain Eo that group just what should happen .. '. . . i . f . . . ' .

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in racing in the State of Illinoise and if we have to set '' '

. these guidelines out for them to make up their mind, then ' u .

that is what we should do and we should vote for this piece ' .r.

of legislation. '' . ' ''' . '

Speaker Bradley: ''Further explanation? Have a1l voted who wishedz' ' ' The Clerk will take the racord . For wlzat pua ose does the ''A' ''

' j '. z ) . . .' gentleman from Cookr Mr. Mann, arïse?/ ' '. . : .

Mann: 'lMr. Speaker, ah.... and Momhers of the House, in looking

. 1 over this Bill and reflecting upon the history of racing, '

. in this State,.which has on occasion been a source of em-. . . . . . . Q. . -) ;

: barrassment to a 1ot of us, ah.... who look upon racihg as ' '''- '. Y

' a wholesome sport and a source of great revenue in the State,

I can't understand what's wrong with passing t idelines with '. . j t

regaro to the ass içpr-mer t cf dates ': which in'ir'xlvio c'ha.racte: : ,. . . ' &1 .'

. experience, financial stability, integrity, facilities, ' . .-.

locations and potential state revenues. 'It seems to me that 'f , . .

these are all the criteria that any one of us would sit down . - - .

. : '' and reeite if we were to be called upon to indicate guide- ''lines for the assignment of racing dates. Now surely we don't

prefer ah.... the way 'lt was done in the paste when eertain .$ . . o

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people okould.... wiEh clout and inside. advantage were able

to get advantageous racing dates. We certainly don't approve

of that past Rrocedure, and certainly I would hope that no.

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one on this floor on either side of 'this aisle would allow ... . . . .= 'his feelings for any of the personalties on the Racing Board-

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f. . . . . . j j i f.l r ' - .' Speaker Bradley: The Chatr recognlzes a dlstinguished v1# - . . .

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' Shea: ''Well Mr. Speaker, Ladies 'and Gentlemen of the Hou#d' '' . J-

' ' d Bob I don't know why you talk mhout the Leadershlkl ''an , .

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. - . - . 4 j va ;q some trouble wlth the Racing Board. Ah..... Represent#l: .

Klosak and I have a Bill in to try to let muhicipal g0. VGv. . .. l asd . ' .. . Tne:lt ral se ssme mc nthy wi 'uhouk putki..r c4 a prcperty t.#' # # '. .. , . yf ' d the Raci n Bor d down here opposi ng the Bi 11 1)11 V '. . . . , I a.n q . . .

't find anybody from the Board to tell me w'hyy but 1'' VOu I. .' . .'' Can . . .. p . r. . ' . k -. z, . . , . . . . . )( jj j, yy . - I: thznk this will help them, If you thxnk this w1ll ma - I

. . . . y. ja zike I' . better legislation, 1911 give you a vote for it but l t' - I.. . . . . j,j . r ao t, j.o ,3 1. , I. ... . them to start belng a llttle responsïble an t ei ... ,. ' ,, ' , . . jr# yve . 'Speaker Bradley: Mr

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Stonel NTo explain my vote, Mr. Speaker.'' . ' ' ''. .:. ' . '. . .. .

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stone: ''Mr. Speaker, Ilm record present. Now it seems to Me) '

that if we have a Racing Board that doesnêt have sense

j 'enovgh to do what this Bill kells them tozrdo, then we

should gei a new Racipg Board, and change my vote from' $

' ' to 'no' Mr Speaker '' *present , . .

Speaker Bradleyt ''Record Representakive Stone 'no'. On this

question, there are 83.#ayes?, 3 êno', 64 voting êpresentêe

and this Bill, having failed to receive a constitutional

majority, is hereby declared lost. Representative Fary.lPary: ''Record me as voting laye' on that Billz Mr. Speaker./

Speaker Bradley: *They have you recorded as voting îaye' on that

Bill, Mr. Fary. On the Order of Third Reading, House Billsy

appears House Bill 261, and ik is the intention of the

Chair to call this Blll and ther. gc to resolutionse agreed

resolutions and if time allowp, we will come back to House

Bills, Third Reading. Read 261.9' .

O'Brien: ''House Bill 261. Satterthwaite. A Bïll for an Act

to amend Sectidns of an Act in relation to CounEy zoning.Third Reading of the Bill.''

Speaker Bradleyz ''Lady from Cjampaigny Mrs. Satterthwaiteo/Satterthwaite: ''This is a very simple Bill that went through

* im l e'limi-committee without any dissenting votes. I s p y

kes from the étatutes now the restriction for the perna

diem in mileage that eounties were allowed to provide for

county zonihg board of appeal momhers. It leaves it eom-

letely open to any county now to set their own tateoe

Speakêr Bradleyr >Furkher discussion? Does the Lady wish ko

close?o

SaEterthwaite: 'fI just ask for a favorable vote on 261.*

Speaker Bradley: f'The question is. shall Hduse Bill 26l pass?f

A1l in favor, will signify by voting 'aye'. A1l opposedN:y

by voting 'no'. Werll take the roll call vote. Have all::

voted who wished? Bradley laye'. The Clerk will take the

Record. On this question, we have l40 'ayes', l enoT 4 .-# . . . . ... . . . ' ' :' ...c t . L . ; . .... ytig'. ft (jy.. , . g .. . .

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voti n ' resent ' and thi s Bi 11 havx' ng recei ved the ''con- : ' '% Ih ,

* Y Q i 1 X Y 6 h. ' ' X '. stI u ona maporlty, Is ereby declared passed. We 11 .

4 , ' ' .' .go to the Order.... Wlth leave of thehHouse, we 11 go to . .# .. r . ''

the Order of Resoluti ons .'' ' ' ' . . ' ' ' '. . ,. p .: . . . . . .- w..

' Bri en : ''House Resoluti on 14 6 . Ryan et al . '' , . . c,#'a. . ' ' '

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Speaker Bradley: ''It's been read and the Chair recognize's .'

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Re resentative Ryan. '' ' . . ' ','.' .. Ip . . . . . .. . c . . :*2*

$ ' L ' '' Ryanz lThank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of the . .i'''-'/ t. .

' House. I1m going to ask your support to suspend Rule 4la

f ' th .'. ' d ' t ' d t * d d ti f House '' '''' '. Or .. e e a.a e consl era Ion an a op on o . . . .. .. . Q . .

Resolutionll46. I'm sure that a11 you people are aware '''' . ''..' .. 1' .'

:' that the Klu Klux Klan has been in the State of Illinois '.. .. .

' ' jtjg * * . * â '' ' .an are now gozng through our cttles such as Clcero, Aurora/. .

'' Joliet and Kankakee, and House Pesolution l46 would direct<; . qk ,, '. ., xp xk . '

the Illznols Legzslative Invesklgati'ng Commlsslon to under- .. ' 7 . . .

' ' ''' take an I'mnediate inquiry into the activities of this .group

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. ' ' ' '; '. s . . : ; . . . . . qwhile theydre in Illinois so we can find out just what it

r 'is they'reaç. p to. This mandates the Commission to make a. , ,+ . . . x . .

' '''report back o'n the first of May and to make continuing ''

, reports responsive to its charge on the first day of the ' -v' . ' '' ': ' . months o'-t October , l 9. 7 hf # March of 194 6 and Oe tobez' o.f l 9 *1 6 '. . . . . .='< v -. , . , , t:w.. . . , . . .

.'. and I would like to move for the suspension of Rule'4la for .. . . . . ;

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.7 House Resolution l46 to be adopted ' ediatelv. Mr.' Speaker.l-. . . $ . ) . . .

' '' j:)gj . ' j: ' ' . ' , .Speaker Bradley: Do you want to move, theny at It not go o .. : ' . c t . ;

'' ' .commi'ttee? You want to address vourself-to the Resolution . '

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an : That s rlght . ' . . . '.'.' '. .''= 'ip '. '. : . . . . ' ' i

Speaker Bradley: ''Is that the Motionzî' ' ' ' '' -. . . ..

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Ryan: ''Mr. chairman, the Motion is to suspend the Rule 4la to . .. ' ' ' . ' ê 'keep it from going to committeee so 'it can be adopted and ' ''Q''''.e . f + ' ' ' k

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Speaker Bradley: OThe gentleman has moved to suspend Rule 4la .

for immediate consideration of House Resolution 146. It . i

will take 107 votes, and we will have a roll call. . The , . i.-'* . . r . ,. . . . ' . ; .t . .. ' !. .

' . .: : ' jChair recognizes the gentleman from Winnebagov . . . for what ., .

' urpose does the gentleman f rom Wirmebago , ah. . 7*.* Mr . . ' ''- : .

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. Giorgl, arise?'' ' ' ' '

Giorgi: ''I'd like to question thp Sponsor of the Resolution in ' -

what the urgency is? Is the Klu Kltzx Klan somethu' g new . '.'' ' '''

. . .y ..t ' .. - %in M erica? '' -'

Ryan: . ''No, itfà not hew in America, Representative Giorgiu but X'

it's my understanding that they are now in the State of ' ' .

j . . el '' . rIllinois, an; they re going from cxty to c1ty..... ''

Giorgi: ''Are you going to be nominated from Grand Dragonza Heed '' I.

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- win hands down. I don't have a copy ofethe Resolutionw/ '

Ryant î'I'd be glad to supply you with one.'' ' .%. . . -' -- -' -- ' .à

Giorgi: ''The entire House doesn't have a copy of the Resolution./l'/. . q j. .. . . I.4 jgsy. ...

Ryan: . ''Do you obj ect to this Resolution, Represenkative Giorgi?'' ''.'.':. jj ë. . jet. . ,. . . à.. ' ''' kiorgiz ''I object to the precedent. I eon't object..... You're t%' '

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such a cooperative person, I don't obaect to any of your ' '

intentions. but I think the precedent is bad, and I thl*nk . ''

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' I. it ought to go to comnittee, becàuse it's going to create '' I. ). i

an expendit'ure of funds and I don't think theregs anything :, .

. , . . . . è' I . '. 1 x. . . ''b nd new about the Klu Klux Klan.p . ' ' .. '

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the reason that this.... that I want to move this today Is . .

' 2. ..because khe Klan is in the State of Illinois now.e

Btadlèy: ''Pardon me# Mr. Ryan, we don't print Resolution, Repre- . .

. f Z ' J C '. * ' . vk . 'sentative Giorgi. The gentleman has made the Motlon. I

''' thi nk we should. . . . . '' .' ' '' ' -' '' ' !. ; ' ' t ., . ''

Giorgiz Maust a moment, I have the Parliamentarian beside me. We ''. ' e * n ' .w':'* ', . '! .. > (' ' t h i s of the Resolutions We must have them.O '.' '''' ' ' ImuS aVe COP e . s. : . ... ' 7: tv - :

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Speaker Bradley: ''Would you like a copy, Mr. Giorgi?/ % '

Giorgi: ''Yes, I'd like to see... . . ah....> .

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Speaker Bradley: Maybe yourlparliamentarian can read it to you.1. O r:'1 ' If the Motion to suspend prevails : we will have the clerk ' ' .

read the Resolution complete in its entirety. The question '

is on the Motion. It wilr.'... to suspend Rule 4la, it will *. . .

' ' '. JEake 107 Alotes. We will now have a roll call vote on the '' / .

. MoEion. RepresentaEive Ryan.'' ' ' '

Ryan: ''Mr. Speaker, maybe it would be in order for the Clerk to

; read this Resolukion nowe so that we can get the necessary

l07 votes . '' ' ' . ' '' '

Speaker Bradley: AThe Clerk will read the Resolutionw'' ' '. ' . . .. *

O'Brien: ''House Resolution 146. Whereas the K1u Klux Klan has

in recent days an invisible and concentrated drive.to propar '

Vdize the residents of many Illinois cikies , includinq Cicero' , ''. g

Aurora, Joliet, Kankakee; and whereas the Constitution of ' .' L

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t:e Unitèd StaEes and the constitution of Illinois protects .é . .- . .: . .the freespeech rights of those mouthing even such adherent '

preachings of those espoinded by the K1u Klux Elan, and: .' . . '

whereas the Klan haB been potorionsly known to be less ' * ''--w '*<

$b t in'its regard and kèspect of the constitutional .o servan. ; . . . . . . J7 lk .:'. . . . , .. .

,. rights of others and those it rails against; and whereas '' ...' J * '. . . . .. ,

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' rumor ahd controversy and violence all too often accompany '4'n

, . a search in Klan activity; now therefore be it resolved by ': $''

the House of Representatives of the 79th General Assemhly

that the state of zlzindis'regislative znvestigating èommission .

be directed to undertake an immediate incuiry into the '

activities of the Klu Klux Klan' in Illinois to determine '' ' '

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excite violence, intimidate ordinary citizens and be it

further resolved that the Commission seek the cooperation

of Ehe officers of local, state and national police authorities

. in their investigations; and be it further resolved that the

' commfssion make itssfirst report of findings to this General '. Assomhly no later than May 1, 1975, and they continue their

reports, responsive to a charge under the resolution, on the .

first day of the month of October, 1975, March, 1976 and

' ' ' October, 1976 . '' , ' . . '*> ' '

* Speaker Bradley: ''The Chair will recognize the gentleman from' Cook, Mr. Bluthardt, to explain his votee'' '

Bluthardt: OThank vou. Mr. Speaker and Members of the House. So

that my present vote won't be misinterpreted, 1et me say that

I dispise the Klu Klux Klan and what they stand for - every- 'TG ' ' . .

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thinq thev stand for. buE it seems miqhtv strance to me '

that when resolutions to investigate some o'her organizations

H'ke the communist party, the socialist party or some o'her

' like organization, we hear screams of violations of the civil

vk. rights and Ehat and we're raitroading resolutions through, '' and that type of reaction to those other resolutions. Why '

is it that therels an emergency and an urqencv for investi- ''

atins the activitie: of the 1(lyt F? ul Flan that have bqenC .--.. .. n ow a .

in exiskence for perhaps a hundred years? Isn't this a type. . 0 ' ' .ir

' :. ' of resolution that ought to go to Committee, Where there ought

to be some proof that there is some illegal or improper

activity by this organizaEion? I am voting 'present' because

..,. ' I cannot agree that there shall be two dif ferent standards

. . . for various organizations.''

Speaker Bradley : BThe Chair would like to announce. '.' - .' . . I see

some food coming in. Webre intending to break shortly after

. . this vote. before lunch. Wedll try to get you one-half hour

for lunch before the Committed meetings begin. The gentle-

' ' ' man from Cook, Mr. Gaines, to explain his voteoO '

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Gaines: ,1 just got Mr. Totten to co-sponsor this resolution wikh. him, and I want to tell you, if you don't think there's

an emergency.... If something isn't donee there's going to

be some violent reactions in the Black communities from

one end of Ehe State to another, because the Klan is to the

Black community like the Nasis is to the Jews. You mention

. it and we fight, and if that isn't an emergency, I don't know

what is. There hasn't been as much distnrbance in the Black

it in the last ten years as there is now, and if thecommun y

Legislature doesnlt do sonething about it, Black folk are '

i to take up their arms and do it theirselves./ '. 'S' 'go ng

Speaker Bradley: ''Further explanakion? The gentleman from Will,

Mr. Eempiners/'to explain his vote.''

Kempiners: l'hank you, Mr. Speaker, that'p exactly whak I want

to do. The question here is the Guspension of uhe >1les....O

Speaker Bradley: ''Pardon me, Mr. Kempiners, for what purpose

' does the gentleman from Lake, Mr. Matijevich: arise?l '' Matijevich: *Mr. Speaker, Momhers of khe House. I think this

F . . . .. can be resolved and I believe it is an MAportant Resolution,

but I think it can be 'resolved. The Executive Committee is

. . meeting today, and if we had unanimous consent, this Resolu-

tion could be heard today. Now.... and I really think we'. . . ought to go through the coMmittee system, but I want to tell z'

... , : .- : ,'' z ' khe sponsor of the Resolukion, you've cot a lonq wait/because. . ' w ..

'.'' we do have a 1ot of business in that Committee. and I1m going -- -

to take care of Bills first, even though this is important,'. . but I'm going to be there until the Committee's overe and

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' ' ' the Resolution will be heard, and I think that will take care' of it. It is an important Resolutionf-but even so, it ouqht

,.. . . to go through the committee system.N

.''' Bradley''l think it's an intriguing offer, but it appears to me'' that the Gentleman would persist in his motion.- All right,

' . . .: ' . *'' ' L''k welll return to the centleman from Will. Mr. Kempiners.e .

. J ':.(>' 'Kempiners: lThank you, Mr. Speaker. If Mr. Ryan is going to per- .

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. committee for the offer, but the guarantee is not there'

that everybody in the Committee will be present for'the . :' .

' ' ' l' ' vote, and I am concerned about what is happening in the . 1

' state of Illinois with the Klu Klux Klan. I represent !. i

a district with two major urban areas in it and the Klan i. ' !

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. is bécoming very active in b0th of those communities, and . I' ' ' what others have said before me about the reaètion of the

; . '' ' ëlinority groups to the Klan coming into these areas and ' - I

. noE just minority groups, but many who are not mmmhers of .

minority groups. I've received mail on this kubject. I've ''

received comments from very concerned citizens, and I think .

it is imporkant that this legislature do take positive action

to evaluate what is occurring, and I would prge everyone .

to support Ehis Motion . '' . ,

Speaker Bradley: ''The gentleman from Unione Mr. Choate.''

Choate: ''Mr. Speaker, i.... I have strong feelings about the'. Resolution sponsored by Represeptative Ryans and it's veryl.' 2 '

seldom that I vote to suspend the Rules for an m'mmediate '''. ' . .... .. . j. ' ... .. . . .. .. . j

hearing or for Ammediate passage unless I thinf it s of the'

. '' emetgency nature, and I truthfully feèl, coming from the -

part o f t'Jze- itute tllat 1 come f rrpm...t-h-ar- this .ls a matter. . ''''+*k*llr-.:>...

. . #. that needs to be looked into , but I would reiterate the

' =''. suqgestion made by Representative John Matijevich, Repre- . -t . . .sentative Ryan, take the offer of the Chairman of the

Executive Committee, that it will be heard in Executive: . .

, a.... Committee this afternoon, and hopefully, hopefully the

'. Momhership in attendance of that Committee will qive you .

' ' the necessary numher of voEeM to get it out of committee

this afternoon. I would suggest thaE.* ---

. - Speaker Bradley: OMr. Ryan.e

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. Ryan: *Mr. Speaker and Ladies and 'Gentlemen, and Representative. ' '. A: y think yuaklg a very gracious Offpr. Tf. Choate. ....

- .', this Motion fails: then I may take you up on that offero*

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' Matijevich: *1 donlt know if the offer skill stands./ ' '!

.V . . speaker Bradley: ''The gentleman from Macon.....'' .

. Ryan: ''However, I just would like to add for those of you who. . are here that in Cicero the other nightz a eclagel' and for

those of you who don't know what a 'clagel' is, a 'clagel' '. . N

. . is the head of a local klan unity and he made this statement

to d crowd of about 30 people and I quote 'the vehicles must' break the shackels of Jew-lead Niggers''afd added that only

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death or extradiètion or Niggers could save this countryol .'' ' ' Speaker Bradley: ''Mr. Ryan, the Chair didn't recognize you for '' '.

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that purpose. I Ehought you were going to agree to the'

.1: offer from the Chairman of the Executive Committeeo/

Ryan: ''I don't agree to that offerm''

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. Speaker Bradley: ''So welll go Eo Mr. Borbhers from the County

. of Maeon for his explanation of his vote.'' ày ,' 'c Borchers: ''In explaining my 'no' Note, if an Amendment will be

' ' put on that ah....' Resolution to include the Black Panthers,. ' . . -

',... I will chanqe mv vote to fyesl, because I have the pictures, >' '. v: ' '* '*' ''. ' t ryj .z . -1 . 'J h ?: . .- '

'-'- ' and the records of numerous seizures of weapons of all sorts' ' h ho have had tkese' raids and whofrom the Black Pant ers, w'.

'.' have raided some of our armories in this country, ahd who '. '>...

'.;, '.).. bave been active in their own wa&e the same as the Klu Klux. ..> s%s . . . ww w . ..' ''? . '; . .. . Klan. I have no use for ei ther one of them, but I think we

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.' should be fair. Let's also investigate the Black Pankhers' 1/77; e . .' nm ..:u2 . , ' ' ' ..' , :)Q' .tQ , j. go f ar I 'm not def endinç the Klu Klux Klan. and the r arms . ,

' .:''','. ' on this, so f ar no raid of weapons have been found in. j .

- ' possession of the xlu Mlux Klan, but I sure had the Pi*tures '

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'and the records of the Black Panthers. So let's be fair./''' 'j . s J: . .

' Speaker Bradley: rehe Chair will remind the Mpmhers, youRre ''

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some of the things would ever happen khat I've seen happen' ' '

in this Nation. The last report, and Ehere mfght be morey ' ''

. we had elected more than l0B black mayors in the United ' '.

States. I never dreamed. I stood on the Ploor and was ' ' .. . . . ; . . . .,

introduced in the Legislature of the State of Mississippi Y ..

and I donft mind telling you, I left Mississippi with my

' hat in my hand. I'm talking about the great strives in '' '.

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racial relations to which this Nation has made. It has ''

. 2made great strives. And we are continuing to make strives. .

I watched last nichtls televisionê and I saw a beautiful ' .

lady awarding, I guess you call it Oscars or whatever they . n

award in the movie world: she was beautiful and brown and .

. ' prettier than anything I ever saw in my life, and I said :

what great strives. And I don't think we need anything. -u. !.'' '

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. if any of youdve seen the Klan in action or not. When I was' ' seven years old: in the back woods of the delta, I can see '

. . ' .them now, riding on their horses, I can see them nowy when .

khey rode up ko my grandfather's house'and they tried to ride

the horses into the 'house and told him to leave the delta and' ? I. .u ' '

. he cleaned up ''zhat land and laid.claim to it when he came out .

- of slavery. Cleaned ft up from nec ground, and kold him ko '. ' .; . .

leave, and hè had to leave. I campàigned for John Pitzgerald '

Kennedy and I campaigned for hin with feeling. Talk about '. . %

the West Virginia campaign. I went for him with a feeling. l

Because I know what it meant to be hated by the Klan. They

tell me theyRve changed now, that they're not against Catholics '

anymore, but at that'time, they were. I know what it means

. . . . meant, and I was so 'glad when he was elected, not that :

I hated his opponenty but because I thought that once we '

destroyed keligious prejudice in this Nation, we were on our . ,.

way to destroying racial prejudice in the Nation. We donlk 'y,' .. . :

. . ;. need anything now, to'' try to destroy the good public relations -'

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speaker Bradleyt ''Further explanakion of vokes? The Lady from

Lake, Mrs. Geo-Karis.''

Geo-Karis: ''Ah.... Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Genklemen of khe

House, in explaining my vote, knowing that you're hungary,

the K1t Klux Elan is also skarting and has been in my County

and theylre getting very active again. I think we better

face our responsibility to defend the Constitution of '%L 'y.N .

. Illinois and the United States, which is suppose to be for

equal protection of all, and I can remomher the Nasis boom

right before the war, that's the kay khey started. Nowg

theyrre braging and going to various city councils.. For

heavens sakes, let's do the decent thing and vote it up.*

''Have all voted who wished? Tale-the Record.Speaker Bradley:Pardon? We're on explanation of votes. On this question

The Chair assumed, Representakive, you had already ..

explained your vote. The Chair reeognizes the gentleman

from Kankakee, Mr. Ryan, to explain his vote.'', ' z .

Ryan: >Well, thank you, Mr. Speaker and Ladies and Gentlemen of

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h inthe House, I nust wan: to relate to you peoplevw o are

this Chamher a story, a little thing that hlppened to me..Athe other night. I called home and I happen to have six

*N >Q<children at home and they go to the public school and they're

.: integrated schools, and Monday niqht in the Kankakee Paper,' 5 . . '

.: . .'''':'' ' ' this liktle quip I read you was on the front' page of the

paper about what the Klan was going to do in Kankakee and

khroughout the State. My kids, my little white kids, are

petrified by the actions that they read and know about and

heard about from their little black friends at school., Now

there's fear in the beart's of Ehe people in this State,

because of the actions that this group have brought about

and al1 weêre asking to do here, Ladies and Gentlemen is to

monitor what the Klan is trying to do in the State of

' 7 ' '' 'll'inois . Representative Gaines hit it on the head.' We ?ve .-, . ., . u; .g d p .v .. 7 1- L ' .. ' w ; .) . ' ' ' .. 1 a7 ' . ... .. .. , . y . .' . .. . . . .

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come a long way since the riots of the 60's. There'sI

nothing wrong with this Resolution. There isn't anything. . ë

wrong with giving l07 votes to suspend these rules, and I ''

certainly hope those of you who can't find the way to give '

. '' Re a green vote on this, that your constituents and the

People in your diskricE have looked over this roll call Z

and read it well, and I urge you to give me l07 votes.e

Speaker Bradley: ''The Chair recognizes the Lady from Cook, Mrs. ':.

catania . 1' ' ..

Catania: O'Thank you, Mr. Speaker and Mnmhers of the House, to

briefly explain my vote? r just wanted to mention, first

the Black Panther Party has been disbanded fn Illinois and

some of the people who were hwmhers of that orgamization have ' ',e'

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kaken the advice they were given and are now trying to :' leazn the politicàl proeess and tu beccma vezy constructive

citizens. Some of them have run for office and have earned

. the respect and support of Black and White. voters alike.. :

The tegislakive Investigative Commission is set up in the

. 'ztatutes to investigate any matter of concern to this General

Assomhly. I think it's very clear that whatever position you'

.u tike, this matter is of concern to all the people who hate' spoken. The Legislative Investigating Comnission is set '

' . . up by us precisely to examine this sort of situation, which

. is clearly becoming a problem in Illinois. lt's been docu-

mented thoroughly on television. I think wegre all aware - --'-

here of the issues thaE wedre talking about. I donlt think'

d further hearings in committees. z think everybodywe nee

in this room knows preeisely what the fssues are. I think

. that we are not here to. serve the rules of the General

Assomhly: *he rules are here ko serve us# and the people who' seem to feel for some reason or okher that this must go to

. *' committee and that itRl'a violation somehow of the rules if

it doesn't, needs to understand that we are here to do the .'

>eoplees business, we are not here to worship the rules of '' .'. ; . . ' . $ '

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. the General Assembly. We have an obligation to thespeople 'i . . . & . .

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Speaker Bradleyt ''The gentleman from Cook, Mr. Capuzi.''

.. Capuzit ''Ah.... Mr. Speaker, I notice thak our swikches are all .

locked here . '' ' ' C

Speaker Bradley: ''We have asked the Clerk to take the Reeord, ' .

thinking everybody had had an opportunity to explain their '

vote. If you wish to be recordede welll recognize you for .

that purpose.'' '

capuzi: ''Well, I am recorded. I'm recorded as voting 'aye', but

I know there are several other Members who would like to '

either change their vote from 'aye' to 'no' or lno' to 'aye'

aùd they just don't have the opportunity, as long as theirswitches are lockede nnH I suggest a new roll callo/ '

' Speaker Bradley: ''The Chair would like Eo be shown by a vign .

of hands, how many woûld like to change their vote. Take

the roll call. The question is now on the A'entlemanls motion.1..

Those in favor will vote laye', and those opposed will vote

'no'. It will take lQ7 votes.' Have a1l voted who wished?

' Have all voted who wished? Th& Clerk uill taxe the kecord.' On this que'stion, we have 94 'ayesfe-zo 'naysl.... and

.. 9 'present' and this Mokion, having failed to receive-the .

. required majorïty, is hereby declared lost. The gentleman '

Yrom Lake: Represenkative Matijevichvwlfqm. what purpose do

you rise? ' . . ' . . '

'.'. Matij evich : ''Well , f irst of 'all , I 'm going to tqll Reprelentative

Ryan, the offer is s'ill open. I want to see what he says./

Ryan: pWell, certainly, Representakive Matijeviche I'm goinq to'= ' accept your offer. z think that this matter is such that...

of such importance that the fasker that we get it out ofl.'

here: the better. Also, I'm afraid that do to the aèkions

of you and a few others, that the Bill is going to be too

late. We're gofng 'to be a little late vith the Resolution.

I think the Klan wfll have pisséd through Illinois by then./

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Speaker Bradley: DThe Chair recognizes Representative Matijevich,

for the purpose of a Motiont'': . ,

Makijevich: 1%1. Chairman, I think he has sone apprehensions;therefore, 1111 make khe motion ko suspend Rule 18 and the

posting provision so that this Resolution can be heard this .

afternoon in Executive Committee. I think 1lm more interested

than hee'' . '

d1e : î'The Committee on Assignment has just had a 'Speaker Bra y%. .

meeting and has assigned that Resölution to the Executive

committee and his Motion is in order. The question isz shall

' Rule 18 be suspended so- that House Resolution Numher l46

' can be heard in Executive Committee this afternoon. It takes' l07 votes and al1 those in favor will vote 'aye'. Those

opposed wïl.l vote 'no'. Have all voted kho wished? Take

the Record. On this question: there are l34 'ayes', 6 'nos'

and none voting present. The gentleman's motion prevails. .

The Rnle is suspended and the Resolution will be heard in '

. Executive Committee. The.... it is to the attention of the' chair that further matkers will be perfunctorye sm we will

' be..... Pardon me, we better have Agreed Resolutions: before

* ' we gt- 'zb the perfulïctol.'y. '' '

O'Brien: ''House Resolution 145. Choate and Hart, et a1.O' speaker Bradley: *We recognize Mr. Giorgi from Winnebago.-

. Gibrgi: 'fMr. Speaker: I have the Agreed Resolution from Clyde .. - - . .-

Choate that honors the Eldorado High School team and then ''

I have a death resolution. l move for the adoption of

. House Resolution l45 by Clyde Choate.H

Speaker Bradley: ltHe moveé for khe adoption of the Agreed

' Resolution. All those in favore say 'aye'. Those opposed,

the 'ayese have it. The Resolukion is adopted. The Chair

will now go to the Consent Calendar, Bills on 'Third Readinge. ?

third day. Read the Bills./

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o'Brien: ''House Bill 168. A Bill for an Act to amend Sections

of an Act authorizing formation of river consèrvation dis-

tricks. Third Reading of the Bill. House Bill 277. A Bill

for an Act to amend Sections of the Illinois Police Training

Act. Third Reading

for an Act ko amend Sections of the Illinois Public

of the Bill. House Bill 279. A Bill

Aid

the Bill. House Bill 379. A BillCode. Third Reading of

for an Act to amend Sectlons of the Code of Crininal Proce-

dure. Third Reading of the Bi11.*

Speaker Bradley: 'fThe gentleman from Cook, Mr. Shea.r

Shea: %Mr. Speaker, I move... or I ask that the Bills on Third

Reading, Consent Calendar, be passed./

S#eaker Bradley:: ''The gentleman moves that the Bills on Third

Reading, Third Day, Consent Calendarj. be passed. All in

favor, will vote 'aye' and those opposed will vote 'no'.

It takes 89 vokes. Have all voted who wished? The Clerk

. will take the récord. On this question, there are ll2

tayes', no 'nos', 4 voting 'presenk' a-nd these Bills having

' reeeiked a constitukional majority is hereby declared passed.''

We would go to the order of Consent Calendare Second Reading,

Third Day, for tye purpnse of moving the Bill; ko Third''- %7..:-.

Readinq. Read the Bills.O

O'Brieni 'House Bill 7l. A Bill for an Act to amend Seetions

of the Unified Code of Corrections. Second Reading of the

Bill'. House Bill 257. Bill for an Act to amend Sections

of the Unemploymè'nt compensation Act. .second Reading of the

Bill. House Bill 304. Bill for an Act to amend Sections of

an Act to promote welfare of wage earners. Second Reading

of the Bill. House Bill 527. A Bill for an Act to provide

for the recordinq of livestock brands. Second Reading of

the Bill. House Bill 570. A Bill for an Act to repeal

a section of the Probate Act. Second Reading of khe Bf1ï.e

speaker Bradley: lThird Readinq. Messages from *he Senate.l

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O'Brien: ''Message from the Senate by Mr. Wright, Secrekary.

Mr. Speaker - I am directed' to inform the House of Repre-

sentatives that the Senate has concurred with the House in the

adoption of the following Joint Resolutions to wit: House

Joint Resolution 23, together wikh the following amendment

thereto, in the adopkion of which I am instructed to ask

concurrence of the House, Amendment Number 1, concurred

in by the Senate as amended, March 20, 1975. Kenneth Wright,'

Secrekary.''

S k r Bradleyk ''On the Order of Resolutions the Gentlenanpea e ,

from Henry, Representative McGrew, is recognized.''

McGrew: 'lehank you very much, Mr. Speaker. As the Clerk has

indicated, the Senate has passed the House Joint Resolution

23, but. with gn anendment. Frankly, the amendment made it

compaEible with what Senator Savickas is already creatingin

a subeommittee to ânvestigate the delàys in paying unemploy-

ment compensation. Therefore, we have amended the Resolution

to include that subcommittee as the Senate's participaton

in this e udy. The only other change is tha: we now would

only have five House Members instead of khe original seven.

There ïizulc. be. three appointed by the Eenate, tWa appoinked

by the Minorfty Leader. Ah.... I would khêrefore move to

eoncur with the Senake Amendment Number l to House JoiniResolution 23.1' -- -- -

Speaker Bradley: ''Is there discussion? No discussion, khen the

i is o'n khe Motion to adopt. . . . to concur in Senatequest on

Amendment to House Rdsolution.... House Joint Resolution 23.

All in favor, say êaye'. All opposedg vsay pno'. The 'ayes'

have it. The Amendment is adopted and we do concur in

Senate Amendment to the House Joint Resolution. Death

Resolution.w

o'Brien: ''House Resolution 147. Younge. In respect to the .,'.

Memory of Mary Prince Cladwell.'' '. ' : rt. . . f

Speaker Bradley: ''Could you hold that one moment. The centleman ''':., '. . . . . . : z. 'l L & r '- 'j ' * ' . 1 . .' ' ' ' '

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Pïerce: ''Don't you have announcements before Death Resolutions?:

I want to announce that the House commitkee on Environment,

Energy and Natural Resources will not be meeting in its

usual'' room or the rdöï for which the 'Bills were posted, but

in Room C-l of the State Office Building: nçt in Room 22l

of the Capitol Building. Room C-l of the House Office

Building ak 2:00 PMy or 45 seconds after adjournmentw''

Speaker Bradley: ''Purther Announcements. The' Lady from Lake:

Mrs. Geo-Karisa''

Geo-Karis: ''Mr. Speaker, Ladies and Gentlemen of the Houser I'd

like to have leave to remove my name as a co-sponsor of

House Bill 357 and to add my name as co-sponsor to House

Joint Resolution 23.''

Epeaker Bradleyr ''Does khe Lady have leave. Hearing no objecti.on .N.it will be so recordedo' Mrs. Geo-Karis, will you come up to

the Clerk's désk, so weCll be sure we have it correck,' please?

On the death resolution, the Chair will recognize, Mr.

Wâshington fron Cook.''

Washington: ''Thank you, Mr. Speaker, Members qf the House. On

February 20 of this year, the mother of one of our dis-A ,

tinguished Mnmhers has ' passed from -k-h-isxzmozld . >2s'. 14ary'

Prince Caldwell died at the age of 93. She was a vigorous'and amazingly bright and inkelligent and civic minded directed

woman. She spent-her entire life attem/tinq to uplift herpeople and to bridge the gap between the races so that we

would have piece and tranquility an' d so that such things as

what happened on the Floor today in reference to the organiza-

i hich I shall not Dentio'n would not continue. She wast on w

a proud wonan. She raised proud children. She raised youth-

ful children. One of them sits in this House, my seatmatee. . ' ' .. A , . . w k '' ....

Representative Lewis H. Caldwell. In deference and in

memory to that grand old ladyr I at this time move the .

suspension of the rules and the adoption of House ResoluElon

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speàker Bradley: ''The gentleman .has moved the adoption of thej '

Death Resolution, House Resolution 147. A1l in favor, say: : .

'ayel.. Those opposed say 'no'. The layes' have it. The

Agreed Resolution is adopted. Representative Shea from

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Shea: ''Mr. Speaker, I move that the House do now adjourn until10:00 AM in the morning: perfunctory session, and to return

in full session at 12:00 PM on Monday. Twelve o'clock Noonely '

Speaker Bradley: ''You've heard the gentleman's motion. . All in

favor, say- 'aye' those opposedy say eno'. The 'ayes'. #' .

have it. The House sEands adjourned.''' 2

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INDEXHOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

March 20, 1975

TllV SPEAKER DESCRIPTION

10:47 Speaker Redmond Come to Order

10:47 Reverend Krueger Prayer

10:48 Speaker Redmond Roll Call

10:48 Speaker Redmond Committee Reports

10:49 Jack OlBrien Reports by Clerk

10:S0 Speaker Redmond Pirst Readings

10:50 Jack O'Brien Pirst Readlng of Bills

10:59 Speaker Redmond Excused Absents

11:00 Schlickman Absentaes

11:00 Speaker Redmond

11:00 Speaker Redmond Bouse Bill l8, Second Reading

11:00 Jack O'Brien House Bill 18

11:01 Deuster House Bill 18

11:01 Speaker Redmond House Bill 18, Table Amendment #

11:01 Berman House Bil1 18: Inguiry

11:01 Jack O'Brinn House Bi11 18

11:02 Berman House Bill 18

11:02 Speaker Redmond House Bill 18, Amendment Tabled

11:02 Speaker Redmond Announcement of House

11:02 Speaker Redmond House Bill 18r Third Readinq

11:02 Speaker Nedmond House Bill 20

11:03 Jack O'Brien House Bill 20, Secand Rea6inc

11:03 Deuster House Bill 20, Frendment #2

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11:04 Speaker Redmond House Bill 20 .

11:04 Deuster House Bill 20, Moved to TableAmendment #2

llrO4 Speaker Redmond House Bill 20# Amendment Tabled

llJ04 Speaker Redmond House Bill 79, Second Reading

11:05 Jack OlBrien House Bill 79, Second Reading

11:05 Speaker Redmond House Bill 79z OUR

11:05 Speaker Redmond House Bill 128: OUR

11:05 Speaker Redmond House Bill 210

11:05 Jack O'Brien ' House Bill 210, Price Markings

11:05 Speaker Redmond House Bill 2l0

11:05 Jack OlBrien House Bill 210, Amendment 41

11105 Kelly House Bill 210, Amendment #1f 11:06 Speaker Redmond House Bill 210, Adoption of

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11:07 Speaker Redmond House Bill 250

11:07 Jack O'Brien House Bill 250, Second Readingt ona amendment

11:07 Speaker Redmond

11:07 Rayson House Bill 250, Move to adoptAmendmenk 11

11:07 Speaker Redmand House Bill 250, Amendment Adopte

11:08 Speaker Redmond House Bill 251

11:08 Jack O'Brien House Bill 251, one Amendment

11:08 Rayson House Bill 251, Discussion' Amendment

11:08 Speaker Redmond House Bill 251, Arendment Adopte

11:08 Speaker Redmond House Bill 323

11:09 Jack OrBrien House Bill 323, Second Reading

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11:09 Speaker Redmond House Bill 323, Third Reading

11:09 Speaker Redmond Souse Bill 38l

11:09 Jack O'Brien House Bi1l.38l, OUR

11:09 Speaker Redmond House Bill 5l0

11:09 Jack O'Brien Housm Bill 510, Second Readingone Amendment

11:10 Speaker Redmond House Bill 510

11:10 Chapman House Bill 510, DiscussionAmendment 4111:10 Speaker Redmond House Bill 510, Amendment Adopte

11:10 Speaker Redmond House Bill 5lS

11:10 Jack O'Brien House Bill 515, Second Reading,one Amendment

, 11:11 Speaker Redmond House Bill 5l5

11:11 Chapman House Bill 515, Move to AdoptAmendment 41

1lJl1 Speaker Aedmond House Bill 515

11:11 Schlickman House Dill 515, Discussion

11:11 Chapman House Bill 515, Discussion oh !copy of Amendment

11:12 Speaker Redmond House Bill 515

11:12 Shea House Bill 515, Discussioncontinued 1

11:13 Speaker Redmond House Bill 515, OUR

11:13 Speaker Redmond House Bill 57l

11:13 Jack OfBrien House Rill 571, Second Reading

11:13 Speaker Redmond House Bill 571

11:14 Palmer House Bill 571, Distribution ofBills

11:14 Speaker Redmond House Dill 571, DisEribut'ion ofBills

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11:14 Speaker Redmond House Bill 571, Distrfbutl.on ofBills

11:14 Collins House Bill S71, Distribution ofBills

. 11:14 Speaker Redmond House Bf1l 571, Distribution ofBills

11:14 Duff House Bill 571, Distribution ofBills

11:15 Speaker Redmond House Bill 571, Distribution ofBills

11:15 Palmer House Bill 571

11:15 Speaker Redmond House Bill 571, Bring Books Up-/to-Date

11:16 Speaker Redmond House Bill 584

11:16 Jack O'Brien House Bill 584, Amendments,Second Neading

11:16 Speaker Redmond House Bill 584

11:16 Schlickman House Bill 584

11:17 Speaker Redmond House Bf11 584, OUR

11:17 Speaker Redmond House Bill 584, Conference ofPages

11:17 Speaker Redmond House Bill 584

11:19 Griesheimer Hou'se Bill 323, Second Readinq

11:19 Speaker Redmond House Bi1l 5: Third Reading

11:19 Jack O'Brien House Bill 5, Third Reading

11:20 Speaker Redmond House Bill 5

11:20 Kosinski House Bill 5, Discussion on Bill

11:22 Speaker Redmond House Bi11 5

11:22 Nauer House Bill 5, Ouestion

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11:23 Speaker Redmond House Bill 5

11:23 Lauer House Bill 5, Discussion

11:23 Kosinski House Bill 5, Discussion

11:23 Lauer House Bill 5, Discussion

11:23 Kosinski House Bill 5, Discussion

11:23 Lauer House Bi1l 511:23 Speaker Redmond House Bill 5

11225 Speaker Redmond House Bill 5, House Bill 45Passed

11:25 Speaker Redmond House Bill 58

11:25 Jack O'Brien House Bill 58, Third Reading

11:25 speaker Redmond House Bill 58

11:25 Deuster House Bill 58, Discussion

11:27 Jack O'Brfen House Bïll 58

11:27 Speaker Bradley House Bill 58

11:28 Mugalian House Bill 58, Discnssion on Bi1

11:29 Speaker Bradley House Bill 58

11:30 Catania House Bi11 58, No Bill on Book

11:30 Speaker Bradley House Bill 58'

11:30 Deuster Housl Bill 58, Discussion11:30 Speaker Bradley House Bill 58

11:30 Catania House Bill 58

11:30 speaker Bradley House Bill 58, OUR for severalminutes

11:31 Deusker House Bill 58

11:31 Speaker Bradley House Bill 58

11:31 Speaker Bradley House Bill 59, Third Reading

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11:31 Jack O'Brien House Bill 59

11:31 Speaker Bradley House Bill 59;

11:31 Schraeder House Bill 59, Discussion

11:31 Speaker Bradley House Bill 59

11:32 Wall House Bill 59, Question

11:32 Speaker Bradley House Bill 59

11:32 Wall House Bill 59, Discussion

11:32 Schraeder House Bill 59, Discussion

11:32 Wall House Bill 59, Discussion

11:32 Schraeder House Bill 59, Discussion

11:32 Wall House Bill 59, Discussion

11:33 Schraeder House Bill 59, Discnssion

11''33 Wall House Bill 59: Discussion

11:33 Schraeder House Bill 59, Discussion

11:33 Wall House Bâll 59, Discussion

11:33 Schraeder House Bill 59, Discussion

11:33 Wall House Bill 59, Discussion

11:33 Schraeder House Bill 59, Discussion

11:33 Wall House Bill 59, Discussion

11:33 Speaker Bradley House Bill 59,

11:34 Schraeder House Bill 59

11:34 Speaker Bradley House Bill 59, OUR

11:34 Speaker Bradley House Bill 59

11:34 Caldwell ' House Bill 59

11:34 ' Speaker Bradley House Bill 87, Third Reading

11:34 Jack O'Brien House Bill 87, Third Reading Rea .

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11:35 Davis House Bill 87, Discussion '

11:36 Speaker Bradley House Bill 87, Discussioh

11:36 Speaker Bradley House Bill 87, Discussioh on Hou eBi;l 87

11:36 Schlickman House Bill 87, Question

11:36 Davis House Bill 87, Discussion

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11:39 Schlickman House Bill 87, Discussion

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11:39 Schlickman House Bill 87, Discussion

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11:42 Speaker Bradley House Bill 87, Discussion

11:42 Schlickman House Bill 87, Discussion

11:42 Davis House Bill 87, Diseussion

11:42 Schlickman House Bill 87, Discussicn

11:42 Davis House Bill 87, Discussion

11:42 Schlickman House Bill 87. Diseussion

11:42 Davis House Bill 87, Discussicn

11:43 Schlickman House Bill 87, Discussion

11:43 Davis Nouse Bill 87, Discussion

11:44 Schlickman House Bill 87, Discussion

11:41 Davis House Bill 87p Discussion

11:44 Schlicknan House Bill 87, Discussion

11:44 Speaker Bradley House Bill 87, Discussion

11:44 Palmer House Bill 87, Discussion

11:44 Speaker Bradley House Bill 87, Discussion

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11:45 Davis House Bill 87, Discussion

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11:45 Davis House Bill 87: Discussion

11:45 ? House Bfll 87: Dfscussfon

11:46 Davis House Bill 87, Discussion

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11:47 Speaker Bradley House Bill 87

11:47 Gaines House Bill 87# Disaussion

11:48 Speaker Bradley House Bill 87, Discussion

11:48 Hudson House Bill 87, Discussion

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11:51 Davis House Bill 87, Discussion

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11153 Davls House Bill 87, Discussion

11:53 Speaker Bradley House Bill 87, Discussion

11:53 Davis House Bill 87r Discussion

11:53 Speaker Bradley House Bill 87, Discussion

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11:54 Davis House Bill 87, Discussion

11:59 Speaker Bradley House Bill 87, Vote House Bill 8

11:59 Telcser House Bill 87z Asked to be Heard

11:59 Speaker Bradley House Bill 87, Recognized Tottqn

11:59 Totten House Bill 87# Point of Order

12:00 Speaker Bradley House Bill 87, If was Amended,Distributed

12:01 Yourell House Bill 87r Procedure

12:01 Speaker Bradley House Bill 87, Proceeding onRoll Call

12:02 Speaker Bradley House Bill 87

12:02 Duff House Bill 87, Explain Amendmenk

12:03 Speaker Bradley House Bill 87, Roll Call Vote

12:03 Speaker Bradlny House Bill 87, House Bill 87,Passed

12:04 Speaker Bradley Resolution 26

12:05 Jack O'Brien Resolution 26, Reading ofResolution

.12:05 Speaker Bradley Resolution 26

12:05 Shea Resolution 26, Discussion

12:06 Speaker Bradley Resolution 26, Discussion

12:06 Matijevich Resolution 26, Discussion

12:06 Shea Resolution 26, Discussion

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12:07 Shea

12:07 Speaker Bradley Resolukion 26, Adopk ResoluEion

12:07 Speaker Bradley House Bill 91, Third Reading

12:08 Jack OfBrien House Bill 9l, Reading of Bill

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12:08 Deuster House Bfll 9l, Discussion andExplanation

12:09 Speaker Bradley House Bill 91, Call for Vote

10:10 Schlickman House Bill 9l, Explain vote

12:12 Speaker Bradley House Bill 91

12:12 Mcclain House Bill 91r O-uestion

12:12 Speaker Bradley Rule out of Order

12:12 Mcclain Explain Voke

12:12 Speaker Bradley House Bill 91

12:13 Deuster House Bill 91, Answerfng Questio

12:13 Speaker Bradley House Bill 9l, House Bill 91Passed

12:13 Speaker Bradley House Bill 118

12:13 Jack O'Brien House Bill 118, Third Reading

12:14 Speaker Bradley House Bill 118, Recognition of' Representative

12:14 Hart House Bill 118, Discussion

12:15 Speaker Bradley House Bill 118, Call for vbkel

12:15 Speaker Bradley House Bill 118, Have a1l voted?

12:16 Speaker Bradley Housa Bill 118, House Bill 91sassed

12:16 Speaker Bradley House Bill 122

12:16 Jack O'Brien House Bill 122, Third Reading

12:16 Speaker Bradley House Bill 122, Recognition ofRepresentative

12:16 Schraeder House Bill 122, Discussion

12:17 Speaker Bradley House Bill 122, Discussion

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12:21 Schraeder To close

12:22 Bradley Call for vote

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12:23 Bradley Recognition of Representative

12:23 Mudd Explain vote

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12:25 Bradley Hb l22 passed

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12:25 Jack O'Brien l32 Third Reading

12:25 Bradley

12:26 Porker . Explanation of Bill

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12:27 Bradley HB l32 passed

12:27 Bradley l39

12:27 Jack O'Brien l39 Third Reading

12:28 Bradley Take out of record

12:28 Bradley l63

12:28 Jack O'Brien 163 Third Reading

12:28 . Bradley Reeognition of Representative

12:28 Grotberg Discussion

12:32 Bradley Further discussion

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12:33 Berman Discussicn

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12:34 Berman

12:35 Grotberg

12:35 Bradley Recognition of Representative

12:36 Beatty Discussion

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12:40 Greiman Discussion

12:40 Grotberg

12:40 Creiman

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12:41 Grotberg Discussion

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12:43 Bradley

12:43 Grotberg

12:44 Bradley Voting

12:44 Bradley Recognition of Representative

12:44 Borchers Discussion

12:45 Bradley

12:45 Grotberg Asks to explain vote

12:45 Bradley ''Go ahead''

12:45 Grotberg Explanation

12:46 Bradley

12:47 Bradley Clerk take record

12:47 Bradley HB 163 passed -

12:47 Bradley l:4

12:47 Jack Q'Brien l81 Third Readinq

12:47 Bradley Recognition of Representative

12:47 Schlickman Discussion & Explanation of Bill

12:48 Bradley Call for vote

12:49 Bradley HB 163 passed

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12:49 Bradley l89

12:49 Jack OlBrien l89 Third Reading

12:49 Bra-dley Recognition of Representative

12:49 Leinenweber Discussion & Explanation of Bill

12:51 Bradley Purther Discussion

12:51 Bradley Recognition of Representative

12:51 Gea-Karis Quistion

12:51 Bradley

12:52 Geo-Karis Discussion

12:52 Leinenweber Discussion

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12:52 Bradley Call for vote

12:52 Bradley Take record

12:52 Bradley HB 189 passed

12:53 Bradley l95

12:53 Jack O'Brien l95 Third Reading

12:53 Bradley Recognition of Representative

12:53 Brinkmeier Discussion & Fxplanation of Bill

12:54 Bradley Further Discussion

12:54 Brinkmeier Closed

12:54 Bradley Take vote

12:54 Bradley l Take record - Clerk

12:55 Bradley HB 195 passed

12:55 Bradley l99

12:55 Jack O'Brien l99 Third Reading

12:15 Bradley Recognition of Representative

12:55 Maragos Discussion & Explanation of Bill

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12:56 Bradley 206

12:56 Jack O'Brien 206 Third Reading

12:56 Bradley Take out of record

12:57 Bradley 222

12:57 Jack O'Brien Third Reading

12:57 Bradley Recognition of Representative

12:57 Londrigan Discussion & Explanation

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12:58 Schlickman Discussion

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12:59 Schlickman

12:59 Bradley Recognition of Representative

12:59 Totten Books do not have Bill

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13:02 Bradley 228

13:02 Jack O'Briûn 228 Third Reading

13:02 Bradley Recognition of Representative

13:03 Geo-Karis Discussion & Explanation

13:03 Bradley

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13:05 Jack O'Brien 249 Third Reading

13:05 Bradley

13:05 Rayson

13:05 Bradley Recognition of Representative

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13:06 Bradlny Call for votn

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13:08 Bradley Recognition of RapresentaEive

13:08 Rayson Explains vote

13:09 Bradley Recognition of Representative

13:09 Matijevich Explains vote

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13:12 Bradley Recognition of Representative

13:12 Mugalian Discussion

13:13 Bradley ''All voted''

13:13 Bradley Recognition of Representative

13:13 Hill Explains vote

13:14 Bradley Clerk take record

13:14 Bradley Recognition of Representative

13:14 Mann Discussion

13:16 Bradley Distinguished visitor - Hartigan

13:16 Bradley Recognition of Representative

13:17 Shea Discussion

13:18 Bradley

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13:20 Satterthwaite Closed

13:20 Bradley Roll Call lrote13:21 Bradley Clerk take record13:21 Bradley HB 26l passed

13:21 Bradley Resolutions

13:22 Jack O'Brien House Resolution 146

13:22 Bradley Recognition of Representative13:22 Ryan Discussion

13:23 Bradley

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13:24 Ryan

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13:26 Jack OïBrien Reading Resolution

13:28 Bradley Recoqnikion of Representative

13:28 Bluthardt Explains vote

13:29 Bradley Recognition of Representative

13:30 Gaines Explains vote

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13:31 Kempiners13:31 Bradley Recognition of Representative

13:31 Matijevich Discussion

13:32 Bradley

13:32 Kempiners Explains vote

13:33 Bradley Recognition of Representative

13:33 Choate Discussion

13:34 Bradley Recogniticn of Representative

13:34 Ryan Discussion

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13:35 Borchers Explains voke

13:36 Bradley Recognition of Representative

13:36 Davis Explains vote

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13:40 Bradley Recognition of Representative

13:40 Ryan Explains vote/13:42 Bradley Recognition of Representative

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13:44 Capuzi Discussion

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13:45 Bradley Mokion lost

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13:48 Bradley

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13:49 Bradley

13:49 Jack O'Brien Third Readings

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13:50 Shea Bills be passed

13:50 Bradley Vote

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13:51 Bradley Second Reading - third day

13:52 Jack O'Brien Second Readings

13153 Bradley Message from Senate

13:53 Jack O'Brien

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13:55 Jack O'Brien Death Resolution

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