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    The Recent Workshop and Articles

    "... Turn everything into what it really is: the abstract, the spirit, the nagual."J.M.

    These articles were recent posted in !tlan Mailing ist. #rate$ul Thanks to authors%

    &ro': (ack Rat )i!tlan*wwa.co'+ on un, - Aug / 01:2-:3- 4TTo: i!tlan*wwa.co'ub5ect: The &lyer 6ctopus

    At the last Workshop, it was learned that the $lyers are installed at the topo$ the head7 there, there e!ists a vorte! which is not a vorte!7 rather, ithas a back 8 $orth 'otion to it7 $aster than the beating o$ our heart. This isa center which is not our own.

    Also at this Workshop, we learned that the $lyer that is there, is like anoctopus, with thousands o$ tentacles that travel down through the body, withwhich they leach our energy.

    The tentacles o$ this 9octopus9 cannot si'ply be re'oved,tentaclebytentacle7 $or 'ore will si'ply "grow" in to replace the ones thatget re'oved...

    At this Workshop, too7 one o$ the ;nergy Trackers was cutting o$$> the "$low" o$ the $lyers9 thoughts% t was as i$ he were cuttingo$$ their blood supply, or so'ething.

    ?ow, he says that he is not taking all this lightly, any'ore. That he haspassed a sort o$ "point o$ no return," but this e!perience has le$t hi'

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    shaken. @e co'es $ro' a oga background7 and believed that the pressing o$these points was a way o$ "'assaging ones9 sel$ into enlighten'ent," orso'ething si'ilar. But when this sensation occurred to hi', this >realiCation>o$ what was really happening, it sent hi' straight out o$ bed, and don9think he got to sleep $or the rest o$ the night% don9t think he has even

    been in that roo' since it happened% The certainty o$ what had occurred hithi' so solidly, that he has no doubt whatsoever that this is indeed what washappening% And now he9s $rightened, and he called 'e hoping that would tellhi' that he spouting nonsense, and that it was his i'agination7 etc. @e isalso having doubts, and $eels like he shouldn9t try to do that, any'ore. Just

    put the paperweight away and stop this "nonsense." ince couldn9t o$$er hi'any such >consolation,> )yeah, right% 9ve had 'y share o$ strangee!periences that won9t go away, too%+ he now wishes $or 'e to post thise!perience o$ his, and to ask i$ anyone else has had this e!perience, o$sensing this "octopuslike" apparition, sitting on top o$ one9s head, and thetentacles going in to those energy centers to tap our energy7 and that by

    pressing these points one is really cutting o$$ the $low o$ the thoughts o$the $lyers, )thereby "creating" nner ilence by stopping the $low o$ theinternal dialogue right at it9s source%+o, would like to hear i$ anyone has e!perienced this, or anything like it,or anything at all in relation to the leather paperweight7 also, any otherinteresting e!periences since the Workshop. Thanks% :+

    Mark even 'ith>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    D&ro': "(ack Rat"Eate: at, 0 6ct / 0F:-0:2- 4Tub5ect: R;: Toltec dolphins

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    told that ?yei was taking notes throughout

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    saying, "Eaddy, he9s nothing co'pared to you," and then 'i'ics the ??strutting egotistically. o we are going to turn over a new lea$ now and 5uststore everything in our A(. t takes a lot o$ energy $or hi' to be there. @esaid he should have told us at the beginning Iabout not taking notes and usingthe A(. But it9s taken awhile $or hi' to $ully stabiliCe at our level.

    And another co''ent:

    @e 'entioned the nternet again I'eaning the adc newsgroup, and said hehadn9t been on it, but had been told what it said. @e 'entioned how he alwaysavoided reading the reviews o$ his work, but that $riends were always puttingthe' in $ront o$ hi' or insisting on reading the' to hi', especially thecritical ones. " didn9t want to read the reviews, so now have no $riends."

    I . . .

    @e re'inded us about so'e guy on the nternet having written that

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    centi'eters. And it 'ust be sharpened in a triangular 'otion, with the edge onboth sides o$ the blade. Then you 'ust $ace eastward. ou orient yoursel$ tothe sun. Then you take your penis out and walk 0F paces toward the west,

    pissing. And the $ield $or gathering will be taken by the length, duration and

    strength o$ the piss."

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    3. Avoid sugar both natural )$ruit, etc.+ and re$ined.

    t tends to push energy out to the edge o$ our lu'inous bodies, 'aking us'ore sel$ re$lective and sti$$, not to 'ention horny.

    o these are the three 'ain 9suggestions9 that co'e to 'ind with regard tothe practice o$ Tensegrity. $ there are others, 9d love to hear aboutthe'. 6ne last thing would note concerning the 9indoors9 'atter:Recapitulation is de$initely enhanced by an enclosed space.

    Barking in the night . . .

    Randy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    &ro': (ack Rat )i!tlan*wwa.co'+ on Mon, 3 ep / F1:F:0/ 4TTo: i!tlan*wwa.co'ub5ect: los voladores )the $lyers+

    (erhaps so'e direct Guotes would be in order, here:

    I$ro' the archives:

    T@6; @;;?

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    'e insane with this nonsense o$ the $lyers." But it9s a $act o$ energy, thatcan be proven to us even at our toe level o$ awareness. "Eon9t you $ind it'addening that all hu'an beings are at that levelH Eespite the age, culture,orientation it9s all about M;. Why all this conniving consistencyH oucan9t e!plain this in sociological or psychological ter's. We have all been

    eaten down to this level." EJ "$ound it disgusting." EJ said "&lyers and wehave a sy'biotic relationship: we give the' $ood and they give us our belie$s.Another thing that should attract our attention," is the $act that, $ore!a'ple, an engineer, a brilliant 'an, $alls $or the sa'e belie$s as 'an hashad $or centuries. "There9s no 'ystery to this the $lyers keep us at thatlevel." Another proo$ is that as a sorcerer begins to discipline hi'sel$, hisawareness grows, like a tree that is constantly pruned. "They Ithe sorcerers'ake their awareness so hard it is unpalatable to the' Ithe $lyers."

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    that point. They learned di$$erent positions the body could adopt that gavethe'selves a sense o$ well being, and thereby learned the 'agical passes. Theyguarded these with the greatest secrecy. n the course o$ $inding orcollecting the 'ove'ents, they also $ound the presence o$ so'ething. They$inally called this presence the $lyers possessors o$ awareness but not an

    organis' that $eed on us.

    Awareness is a sheen, like a plastic cover, that 'akes the lu'inous egg even'ore lu'inous. t goes $ro' the top to the botto' o$ the egg. ?ow 'ankind onlyhas lu'inosity $ro' the $loor to our ankles. o sel$ re$lection is all we cando. t9s not our $ault. Eon Juan9s revolution was to re$use to take part inagree'ents that weren9t his choice e.g., being eaten by $lyers.

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    that sorcerers intend to touch with the passes. 6ur intent doesn9t belong withthe 'agical passes. We 5oin the'. They have intent o$ their own, which is toconnect to that cohesive $orce."

    &;R E;AT;:

    The only area that is even hal$ inGuiring today is theology. And yet a 'a5orconcern there is with the virginity o$ Mary. This is the way to cancel out the

    perception syste'.

    "My $ather was i''ortal. My grand$ather was i''ortal. And yet they died. Theywere i''ortals preoccupied with the idealities that the $lyers give us. Theytell us to keep Guiet, don9t 'ove, 5ust let us eat you." The only awarenessnot eaten by the $lyers is that generated under hard conditions o$ discipline.They leave this alone.

    9(66R BAB9 ?ER6M;:

    "We I'eaning

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    "We I'eaning

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    ideas and ideals." EJ said that, "$ le$t to 'an hi'sel$, we wouldn9t be thatdu'b."

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    think on his own he9d be obsessed with vaginas and virginityH @ow can that beHWe9re not that du'b%9"

    "t9s a terri$ying thought. @ow can counteract itH We are saddled withbelie$s that are contradictory and don9t e!press anything about our li$e or

    our death. Eon Juan said, 9@ave you thought about the pace o$ heavenH nheaven, you cannot rush. ou have to walk with one $oot in $ront o$ the otherslowly. I@e de'onstrates. And no noise. #od doesn9t like any noise.9 Eon Juanalso said, 9The worst thing is, do you realiCe that heaven is a big JewishstoreH #od sits in the 'eCCanine and has two sons: one takes care o$ the

    books, while the other is out soliciting. 6ne is t. (eter, the other isuci$er.9"

    "n this pseudosy'biotic relationship, the $lyers take the best and they giveus this crap. @ow true. @ow devastating. go to talk in Me!ico, and Me!icansare very strange.

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    6M;6?; W@6 "J6?;E T@;M":

    n our individual group,

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    6? T@64#@T A?E W@ W;

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    the sa'e guttural noises he does. o'eone asked how Tony took the picture.There were "F,FFF Me!ican

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    bipedally." @e e!plained that sorcerers see with their whole bodies. To seeenergy as it $lows in the universe is a speci$ic ability o$ the hu'an body. Wecan all see the $low o$ energy, without interpretation, but we block ourselves$ro' this perception.

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    6r was back.

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    D $ound an article by ?ina Wise in the &ebruary 9/ issue o$DThe un MagaCine. t is an account o$ two conversations sheD and a $riend had with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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    D&ro': Brandy Eo'inickEate: at, / 6ct 0/ 0:2:-N F2FFub5ect: Re: n ;nglish Articulo de

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    with "A eparate Reality" and was granted a doctorate with "Journey to!tlan"+. The te!t o$ Ei!ey and

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    than the vengeance o$ the anthropological 9ob5ecr9 )a orcerer+ over theanthropologist until he beco'es a 'agician, Antianthropology." When (aC wrote that article signed in

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    Baba: 6ur path consists only o$ 'editation. This awareness co'es through'editation. As you go deeper and deeper into yoursel$, you beco'e 'ore and'ore aware o$ the $act that you are not gross 'atter but that you are

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    'e.

    Baba: n ndia, also, one has to serve as an apprentice $or at least twelveyears. But there co'es a ti'e when the #uru knows that his disciple has beco'e

    per$ect and lets hi' go.

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    ;very word he spoke is still in 'y head.

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