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Internet Librarian International 2006. Out-Googling Google: Finding What Google Misses. http://www.rba.co.uk/ili /. Karen Blakeman Internet Search & Retrieval Strategy Adviser UKeiG UK http://www.ukeig.org.uk/ http://www.ukeig.org.uk/blog/ http://ukeig.xwiki.com/. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation
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Out-Googling Google: Finding What Google Misses
Karen Blakeman
Internet Search & Retrieval Strategy Adviser
UKeiG UKhttp://www.ukeig.org.uk/
http://www.ukeig.org.uk/blog/
http://ukeig.xwiki.com/
21 April 2023 1Karen Blakeman www.rba.co.uk
Internet Librarian International 2006
http://www.rba.co.uk/ili/
Is this a Google-bashing session?
No Erm... yer, but no, but yer, but..
(to quote a certain Monday morning presentation)
When you are using Google, make sure you are using the right “bit”– news, blogsearch, images etc.
Use the advanced search options to get the best (?) out of Google
But....
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What is wrong with Google?
Results vary from day to day OR command does not really work similar/related pages limited Numeric range search erratic Synonym search not reliable or consistent link command extremely limited
– cannot always combine commands • e.g. link:www.rba.co.uk –site:www.rba.co.uk
Not very up to date site: command erratic
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Work this one out
Why does
site:charity-commission.gov.uk grants
give 2160 results
and
Site:charity-comm ission.gov.uk grants
give:
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Google is a temperamental beast
Do not attempt to apply logic to the way it works – therein lies the path to madness
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Other search engines...
Different coverage Different search features Different algorithms for sorting results Compare search engines
– http://ranking.thumbshots.com/
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Google vs Yahoo
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Yahoo web search
http://search.yahoo.co.uk/ Results compare favourable with Google’s, sometimes
better Results are ranked in a different order to Google Boolean AND, OR, NOT and parentheses Indexes first 500 K of a document Superior link and linkdomain commands
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Link commands compared
Find pages that link to your known page– pages that link to one another often similar in content
– find listings that often include invisible web resources
– invaluable if you are changing your domain name or restructuring your site and you need to know who links to you
Link command– Google
• link:www.rba.co.uk (47 pages)
– Yahoo• link:http://www.rba.co.uk/ (403)
• linkdomain:www.rba.co.uk (1960)
• linkdomain:www.rba.co.uk –site:www.rba.co.uk (1690)
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AlltheWeb Livesearch
http://livesearch.alltheweb.com/ Owned by Yahoo Results appear and change as you type Suggests alternative search strategies as you type Refine results by filetype and site/domain
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Exalead
http://www.exalead.com/ Supports wild cards
– asterisk (*) at the end of a word• pollut* finds pollute, pollutant, polluting etc.
– in the middle of a word using pattern matching• /psych.*ist/ finds psychologist, psychiatrist, pyschotherapist
NEAR - finds words within 16 terms of one another– NEAR/n finds words within n number of terms one another
• climate NEAR/3 change
Approximate spelling, phonetic search
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Ask
http://www.ask.com/, http://www.ask.co.uk/ Formerly Ask Jeeves Teoma now redirects to Ask Web, news, local search, images, movies, blogs,
feeds Suggestions for narrowing down or expanding your
search
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Windows Live
http://www.live.com/ Was MSN Search Results tend to be more consumer oriented Has the most up to date database Good link and linkdomain command
– link:www.rba.co.uk (1247)
– linkdomain:www.rba.co.uk –site:www.rba.co.uk (4473)
Windows often neglects to advertise new search features– e.g. locating RSS feeds on a specified web site
– site:bbc.co.uk feed:bbc.co.uk
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Windows Live – web search
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Windows Live – Academic
Should you be using Google et al?
Think type of information– news, official company information, statistics
Evaluated subject listings– Intute (formerly Resource Discovery Network), Alacrawiki.com
Reference sources– Wikipedia, Answers.com, Encarta
– Google Scholar
– Scirus
– Academic Live
– Ingenta Connect
Structured databases e.g. STN, EINS, Thompson etc
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Current News
Individual publications, BBC, radio (audio), television (audio) Last 30 days
– Google News • http://www.google.com/news/
– Yahoo News• http://search.yahoo.com/ and click on News link
– Ask• http://www.ask.com/
– Accoona • http://www.accoona.com/ and click on news option
• has SuperTarget
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Archive news
Older than 30 days– Accoona
• searches free news sites
– Google News Archive• http://www.google.com/archivesearch
• some sources going back 200 years
• many articles are priced (check other sources before you buy for free options or it may be cheaper to use LexisNexis pay as you go)
– some web based news sources and individual publications go back several years and are free
– priced options such as Factiva and Lexis Nexis credit card pay as you go
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Blogs and RSS
Google Blogsearch– http://www.google.com/blogsearch
Ask – Blogs and feeds Windows Live – Feeds
– also the feed: command
Yahoo– Advanced Search & file format RSS/XML
Exalead– limit search to RSS feeds
Blog and feed search engines– Technorati, Blogpulse
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Audio & Video
Google Video (?) Yahoo Ask Bllinkx
– http://www.blinkx.tv/
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Audio & Video
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www.visit4info.com
Images
TASI– http://www.tasi.ac.uk/advice/using/finding.html
images.google.com search.yahoo.com – images tab Ask – images tab Windows Live
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Images
TASI– http://www.tasi.ac.uk/advice/using/finding.html
images.google.com search.yahoo.com – images tab Ask – images tab Windows Live Flickr.com
– check the license
– http://www.flickr.com/creativecommons
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Morguefile.com
commons.wikimedia.com
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NASA
Cross searching the search engines
Search several tools with one search Can’t use the advanced search features of the
individual search tools Clustering
– Killerinfo.com, Clusty.com
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Clusty.com
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http://www.trovando.it/
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Top tips from searchers
1. It isn’t your fault if Google doesn’t work There are plenty of other excellent and often better search
tools
2. Google Make sure that you are using the advanced search features
to the full and that you are using the right part of Google for example News for current headlines, Images, Blogsearch etc
3. Experiment with the cross-search engine tools Clusty, Killerinfo, Trovando.it
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Why the Google site search oddity?
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Site:charity-commission.gov.uk grants
Karen Blakemanhttp://www.rba.co.uk/ili/[email protected]