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“This eBook is dedicated to the men who want to date the women of their dreams.”
Copyright Pickup Evolution LLC., All Rights Reserved. Pick-Up Evolution isa trademark of Pick-Up Evolution LLC. You agree to all of the following by
accepting and reading this: You understand this to be an expression ofopinions and not professional advice. It is only to be used for personalentertainment purposes. You are solely responsible for the use of theideas, concepts, and content and hold Pick-Up Evolution LLC. and all
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Take this book for what it is…simply it is Knowledge and Nothing more.
Knowledge is power, BUT it is not skill. It brings you power to act, but it will not bring youwisdom.
To get true wisdom you must experience the journey for yourself. Experience the journey
through good times and the bad times. You will live through the experience and become better
for it.
To succeed you must ACT.
Act repeatedly even when it seems like you are getting no result on the outside. You arecultivating your inner world every time you step up and take action. Don’t chase the end result.
Life is not a destination, it is a journey.
Take action.
Take it now and don’t wait for another day to pass you by. Take action even when you think it
seems like it is not working. Take it especially when you think it is not working and before you
know it…
YOU will accomplish your goals.
Nikki Knight
Eric Edgemont
Aka Legend and Edge
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"You've really got your stuff together." - Mystery of VH1's The Pickup Artist
“This kid always has girls with him” - Pat (Hartford, CT)
“Simply Amazing” – CJ (Boston MA)
"They showed me that girls are like locks proving himself to be a true locksmith. Whether you
are looking for a girlfriend or a one night stand he'll show you how to hook them and always get
your way." - Brandon (Hartford, CT)
“You can talk your way into anywhere, you act like a prince.” - Jason (Boston, MA)
“You guys have the best parties, how do you get so many girls to come over?”
– Greg (Boston, MA)
“I thought you knew those girls already.. like old friends” – Eugene (Boston, MA)
“I have never seen so many girls in one place” – Andrew (Boston, MA)
“You have a way of always getting what you want, amazing.” – Jason (Miami, FL)
“Again!!!! You have a different girl every night” – CP (Boston, MA)
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About the Authors
Edge - Has spent the last 9 years of his life wrapped in the seduction community. He devotes hislife to self-improvement and helping those around him. He practices Yoga and meditation.
Legend – Has spent the last 3 years of his life falling down the rabbit hole. He is known for his
fury, fire, and un-surmountable ego. He spends his time improving his life and living his dream.
This book is the culmination of our experiences through 2008. It is written in the form of a
guide, but the information within every chapter was gleaned using the tools in the real world and
then writing down how we would have wanted someone to explain them to us.
This guide strives to put pick-up and seduction into a simpler light. I have found that the simpler
things usually work better. There is no reason to over complicate things. This guide is written in
short chapters. Practice and internalize them one at a time and you will achieve the results you
are looking for.
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IndexSection 1: .................................................................................................................15
The Basics ............................................................................................................................. 16
Chapter 1:............ ........................................................ ....................................................... ....... 17
Taking Action........................................................................................................................ 17
Why You need to take Action............................. ....................................................... ....... 18
Levels of Understanding ....................................................... ............................................ 20How to Practice............................................................ ..................................................... 22
Chapter 2:............ ........................................................ ....................................................... ....... 24
Setting Goals and Expectations ............................................................................................ 24
Introduction........................................................................................................................... 25
What do you want to get from the dating world? ...................................................... ....... 25
Setting Goals....................................................... ....................................................... ....... 27
Chapter 3:............ ........................................................ ....................................................... ....... 29
Beliefs, Female Psychology, Confidence ........................................................ ......................... 29Foundational Beliefs .................................................... ..................................................... 30
Myths..................................................................................................................................... 30
What Women Want and How They Work.............................................................................. 31
Chapter 4:............ ........................................................ ....................................................... ....... 35
Body Language and Eye Contact .......................................................................................... 35
Chapter 5:............ ........................................................ ....................................................... ....... 40
Learning to Start Conversations........................................................................................... 40
The Goal: Opening........................... ........................................................ ......................... 41Types of Conversation starters and Openers .................................................... ................ 43
Chapter 6:............ ........................................................ ....................................................... ....... 47
Fear of Approaching Women................................................................................................ 47
Approach Anxiety ........................................................ ..................................................... 48
Chapter 7:............ ........................................................ ....................................................... ....... 53
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Dealing with Groups and Group Dynamics ......................................................................... 53
Group Theory and Set Logistics .................................................... ................................... 54
Chapter 8:............ ........................................................ ....................................................... ....... 56
Staying in Conversation........................................................................................................ 56
Transitioning ....................................................... ....................................................... ....... 57Stacking........................................... ........................................................ .......................... 58
Multiple Threading ...................................................... ..................................................... 59
Plowing ..................................................... ........................................................ ................ 59
Chapter 9:............ ........................................................ ....................................................... ....... 62
Getting the Number............................................................................................................... 62
Chapter 10:.......... ........................................................ ....................................................... ....... 66
Creating A Connection ......................................................................................................... 66
Wide rapport ....................................................... ....................................................... ....... 68Deep rapport........................................................ ........................................................ ...... 68
Creating a connection .................................................. ..................................................... 69
Chapter 11:.......... ........................................................ ....................................................... ....... 71
Bringing it all together.......................................................................................................... 71
Where you are now ...................................................... ..................................................... 72
Section 2: .................................................................................................................74Taking it to the Next Step...................................................................................................... 74
Chapter 12:.......... ........................................................ ....................................................... ....... 75Talking on the Phone ............................................................................................................ 75
Phone game and TXT message Game .................................................... .......................... 76
Chapter 13:.......... ........................................................ ....................................................... ....... 81
Dates and Day 2’s................................................................................................................. 81
Chapter 14:.......... ........................................................ ....................................................... ....... 86
Getting Physical.................................................................................................................... 86
When to touch ..................................................... ....................................................... ....... 87
Kino Escalation and Sexual Escalation..................................................... ........................ 88Kino Escalation Ladder................................................. .................................................... 89
Sexual Escalation Ladder.......................... ........................................................ ................ 90
Chapter 15:.......... ........................................................ ....................................................... ....... 91
Does She Like Me?................................................................................................................ 91
Indicators of Interest and Indicators of Disinterest............... ............................................ 92
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Plowing an Advanced Look ................................................................................................ 144
Chapter 28:.......... ........................................................ ....................................................... ..... 147
Pulling Girls from the Club ................................................................................................ 147
Chapter 29:.......... ........................................................ ....................................................... ..... 149
Last minute resistance (LMR)............................................................................................. 149How to deal with LMR ................................................ ................................................... 152
Chapter 30:.......... ........................................................ ....................................................... ..... 154
Inner Game and Solidifying Confidence............................................................................. 154
Chapter 31:.......... ........................................................ ....................................................... ..... 156
Getting Good....................................................................................................................... 156
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Section 1:
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The BasicsThere are many guides available, but in my experience they are sorely
lacking in that most of them were published years ago, when pick-up was treated
more like a script-dispensing exercise. This is a guide on everything you need to
know to have an understanding of the core elements of pick-up.
With this knowledge and with practice, you’ll have enough skill to pull most
girls and get a girlfriend.
If you read through it and practice you should have no problem getting a level of
skill where you could have most girls in 3 months if you practice enough. Practice
in field is the key to success.
We pride ourselves on putting out next generation content and running the best blog in the community providing the most practical free advice. Our Blog has
grown to be one of the most popular Blogs in this area of self-improvement in only
six short months.
Keep reading, commenting on the Blog and checking back for new stuff we’ll be
putting out in 2010 and beyond.
Nikki Knight and Eric Edgemont
Legend and Edge
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Chapter 1:
Taking Action
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Why You need to take Action
Legend : If you’re here reading this, then you are taking the first step to improving
your dating life. We all want to change and get better results or you wouldn’t be
here.
To change you need to take action. It’s not going to come from reading or studying
material. Study a little bit and then learn in real life in the field. An hour in the
field is worth a 100 hours of reading and watching videos.
For many years, we have developed bad habits and society has conditioned us into
a walking daze where we don’t take action and go after what we want. Hollywood
has conditioned us to always look for happiness in the future. The truth of the
matter is if we don’t take action to change our conditions, they will never change.
If you follow the steps in this guide you will get your desired outcome. Some areas
you will need to work on. Some will come naturally to you.
The bottom line is you have to take action and try new things to get results.
Every segment will present a new concept for you to study and then go out
and practice.
If you want to learn, you need to practice this stuff. We’re going to give you the
tools that you will need for free. We’re not going to market this e-book into a $97
thing. We are all about sharing the basic information. These are the core conceptsof pick-up and seduction, which are hidden and spread around all the forums and
websites.
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Levels of Understanding
Edge : When it comes to learning a new skill set or area of study, I believe we have
some limiting beliefs in our culture that blocks our potential to really master
something. I think it’s easy to assume that if you’re able to respond to questions by
spouting back a little fact, you “know” it.
And why not? I mean, that’s what school taught us, right? You stay up all night,
study study study, then regurgitate the information onto an exam sheet. I can’t tell
you how many times I would pass a class only to have forgotten nearly all of the
course material the following semester.
I want to discuss a concept that revolutionized the way that I thought about
learning. I apply this to all areas of self-improvement, but it is especially true in the
area of dating, seduction, and pick-up.
The concept is depth of understanding . I think we’d all agree that there are some
subjects where we have a basic understanding of what’s going on (enough to get
by) whereas in other subjects we have a very deep understanding of what’s
happening. Our deep understanding in an area grants us the liberty to not just
understand or “get by”, but to innovate, to imagine, to strategize and to execute
with finesse.
And executing with finesse is what we should all be aiming for. I mean, I think all
of us know that we can get someone no matter where we are in the game. We’re init because we want to get the best we can get.
And since we’re in this to get better results than what we’d been getting, then we
need to get a deeper understanding of what we’re working with.
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I can promise you that anything you feel you have a deep understanding of is
something that you have working with extensively over a period of time. You
didn’t just read books about it. You didn’t just ask questions on forums. No, you
performed within the area you’re studying. You made mistakes. You felt, saw,handled, moved, reacted, strategized, and gained a lot of “real word experience.”
Learning to improve with women is no different. You are not going to get a skill
from reading a book or watching a seminar. You may get enthusiasm. You may
get inspiration. But you won’t get skill , and that is what you want to get.
Where do you get skill? In the real world… out there.
That’s why Legend and I harp on it time and again. You need to be performing in
this area of study to make any kind of progress. It is required… take it from me - I
spent WAY too long studying and studying this stuff for years because I was too
afraid to actually try it on my own.
Embrace mistakes. Embrace confusion. Embrace discomfort, embarrassment,
anger, loneliness, sadness, frustration. Embrace all of it because by walking the
actual path and actually participating in real life, you will continually be imbued
with more and more skill. The more you can embrace taking on real life
experiences and handling them, the more that you will have skill.
As a closing note on this: Being able to do the right pick-up move at the right time
is only half of this game. The other half is resilience: Being able to handleeverything that comes up, good or bad, and continuing onward.
This all comes from experience.
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How to Practice
Legend : You are going to need to create goals and follow them. If you want to get
good you’re going to have to continually go out and practice. It’s not rocket
science, but it will take time. The trick is that only you can hold yourself
accountable. I can show you the tools and you can even watch skilled people in the
field, but in the end no one else is going to open conversations for you and no one
else was going to kiss the girl for you and I certainly can’t have sex with the girl
for you.
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The key is to do something rather than nothing.
Take small baby-steps toward your goals……
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Chapter 2:
Setting Goals and Expectations
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Introduction
In this section we are going to talk about why it is important to manage your goals.
Also we are going to talk about why setting expectations before starting out can
help you greatly in your development.
Legend:
What do you want to get from the dating world?
If you want to change yourself you’re going to have to ask yourself what you want
to get from the game, then plan accordingly. Every person is going to have adifferent desired outcome and your tastes and desires most likely will change over
time. Different skills are going to be required to get different results. Before you
do anything, get clear on what you want.
Do you want a girlfriend?
You might want to develop a plan of action where you are focused more on day
game. By day game I mean meeting women during the daytime in common places
and chatting with them. You’re going to need to get really good at creating a sense
of comfort and connection, and you’re going to have to go on lots of dates. (Day
twos / Day 2s)
Do you want your choice of women and to have multiple relationships?
If you want to date around, you are going to need a combination of night and day
game to give you as many new ways of meeting women as possible. You are going
to have to really round out all of your skills.
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Edge: I agree - have as many avenues as possible in your lifestyle to meet women.
Go out and meet women during the day: in coffee shops, in bookstores, on the
grocery store line, on the subway, on the street, etc. Attend events, groups, classes,
fairs, parties… anywhere where people are getting together where there is acommon interest (even if the common interest is to just have fun and meet people).
Going out to night clubs, bars, lounges, parties, raves, concerts… these are all great
things to do at night, though some people do not like the atmosphere. My approach
was to master these environments though I did not initially find them enjoyable at
all - I like them now that I’ve learned to cut loose and have fun.
Legend:
Do you want Same Night Lays (SNL) and Threesomes?
You are going to want to perfect your attraction game. You’ll be hitting the bars
and nightclubs where you’re going to want to perfect fast sexual escalation and be
extremely good at handling logistics.
Edge: I would also say get comfortable with having women around who are open-
minded and fun. Girls you can go out with who won’t mind you flirting with other
girls. Having women around you who genuinely enjoy your company and think
you’re a good guy makes you very attractive to other women.
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Legend:
You have to create an action plan and train for what you want .
Decide what you want and then plan accordingly. Don’t try to become a guru at
pickup if you just want a girlfriend. You’re not going to need to go out five times a
week to become social. You only need a basic skill to get the girl. If you want to
start doing crazy stuff, then you have to practice more. Manage your expectations
and realize what you really want. You’re not going to need to study for years to get
a girlfriend, but if you want to have repeated same night lays or threesome with
two strippers it might take a lot more practice, skill, and some dumb luck.
Setting Goals
The most important thing about goals is that you write them out, so you can look at
them and consistently hold yourself accountable for the goals. If you write them
out, you are going to be much more likely to actually accomplish them. Settinggoals in a way that you can actually accomplish them is very important. This is
why I break goals into two sections.
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1. Over Arching Goals
The point of an overarching goal is to set an ultimate desired result for your efforts.
It is your main end goal, a goal that could take a month or a year or longer to
accomplish. Whatever your overarching goals may be, take time and write them
down.
2. Step by Step Goals
The purpose of having step-by-step goals is to break your learning into small,
attainable chunks and have small goals that you can reach daily or weekly. This
way you can consistently see progress toward your overarching goals and keep
your motivation to move forward. Write out your step-by-step goals that will allow
you to reach your overarching goal.
This is the beginning step - don’t forget foundational planning or you will run into
problems later.
Edge: I would add that it’s important to find as many ways as necessary to “trick
yourself” into taking action. Starting to do something is the hardest (and most
essential) part. Sometimes I really don’t feel like writing, but I’ll say to myself,
“OK, I’m going to sit down and write for 5 minutes and if it sucks I’ll just stop.”
Before you know it, I’ve spent two hours writing great stuff! So keep that in mind
when you’re stepping outside of what’s comfortable - set an easy first step .
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Chapter 3:
Beliefs, Female Psychology, Confidence
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Foundational Beliefs
Legend:
Myths
There are many myths in society and in the pickup community. One of the greatest
hurdles I have found is the idea that we can come up with perfect lines and avoid
rejection. If you got into the community through Mystery and the VH1 show
“The Pickup Artist”, whether it is season one or two or by reading “The
Game” by Neil Strauss, then you may have developed some bad habits
without realizing it.
The community thinking from a few years ago was that the pick-up artist (PUA)
can come up with this elaborate routine stack or through patterns that would
convey their personality in a way that they would never get rejected. Also that you
could have any woman you wanted. The more I study and the more I practice, themore I realize this is not true.
I’ve found that to really go out and get good at this, you must “become used to the
approach” and embrace rejection. If you can embrace rejection and continually
practice and push your comfort zone, you will learn this stuff very quickly.
There is no magic bullet, but there is a secret. The secret to getting good is to
become confident with women. Now don’t roll your eyes because you’ve heard
that before 100 times… I am going to actually explain what this means in a way
that you can understand concretely and apply in your life later in this article.
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We have a limited amount of time in our lives and we can use it to cultivate value
within ourselves. Society pitches that we need good looks and money to be
successful with women. This is not necessarily true. Women want emotional
stimulation, so I feel that instead of cultivating your wealth or trying to attain someridiculous standard of beauty, it is much easier and sensible to cultivate your
confidence and humor.
What Men Want
Let’s look at how men work. When deciding if we are attracted to a woman or not,
we look at visual cues. We think logically and step-by-step. To get good withwomen we need to realize how they work, how they think, and above all what they
are attracted to.
What Women Want and How They Work
I am going to state this very simply because there is no reason to make thiscomplicated. I would encourage you to read each sentence and contemplate it -
what it means, what it looks like, what are the implications. Really contemplate
each sentence of the next paragraph.
Women are attracted to behavioral cues. It takes them longer to select a mate andthey think emotionally. It doesn’t matter what you look like, if you can stimulate
them emotionally. They look for confidence and humor above all else.
This game is all about Creating Confidence and Becoming Competent
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The number one thing that women want is a confident man. This leads us to the
question of how do we become confident with women. It is not rocket science, but
it will take time.
Being confident is all about being comfortable in any situation and knowing what
to do. This really comes down to practicing enough so that you’ve experienced
many things and you automatically do the right thing.
Edge: I think there are two elements to cultivate here.
One is worldliness – exposing yourself to as many different things, situations,
circumstances, places and types of people as you can. Open-mindedness is
definitely a plus here.
The other is your ability to handle different situations and circumstances . I have
found the best way to get good at this is to: 1) experience a lot of situations, even if
they may be uncomfortable, foreign or scary to you at first, 2) stay in the present
moment – don’t retreat into your mind, don’t judge things, don’t think about the
past, don’t think about the future and stop trying to analyze, strategize and
mentally pigeonhole everything. Let new experiences wash over you and
remember that every new experience is one step towards mastery.
There are unpleasant things that I can handle much better now since I’ve
experienced them a bunch of times and I’ve learned to deal with them with
composure and presence of mind. Being rejected is hard. Breaking up withsomeone you love is hard. Approaching women when you’re afraid to approach is
hard. But it all gets easier as you handle it, learn from it and then mentally
“release” the experience (that is, let go of it and not ruminate on it.)
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Legend:
Let’s relate this to something that we can all understand: Driving a car.
Almost everyone can relate to driving a car. Think back to when you just started
learning to drive. It was extremely scary and you probably had trouble backing up
out of the driveway let alone even being able to look in your mirror while
signaling.
After practicing for days in the parking lot, you are then comfortable enough to
take it to the side streets. The highway still scared the crap you. Maybe after a year
of solid practice you didn’t have to think about doing everything anymore. Instead,
it became natural to merge onto the highway at high speeds or use your turn signals
without thinking about it.
This is how we have to be in order to be good with women. Slowly we have to
progressively desensitize ourselves to being around women and being in
different situations with them until we are comfortable and all the skills that
you’re going to learn come out naturally.
This is an experimental process. Don’t expect an overnight transformation, but if
you practice you will get good.
Getting yourself to a place where you can start achieving results in your life can be
difficult. I’ve been doing the “success with women” thing for a long time and I’ve
learned a few special tricks along the way to dial my internal state and learning the
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Chapter 4:
Body Language and Eye Contact
Introduction:
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Edge: I think a lot of guides on eye contact focus on the mechanics of eye contact
itself or ways to use eye contact to be more appealing. I will touch on what I have
found to be most effective, but before I do I want to talk about what I have found
to be the most essential and most foundational element of eye contact.
Speaking from experience, I don’t believe that people worry about their ability to
have good, attractive eye contact because they don’t know the mechanics. My
belief is that the problem is that eye contact creates a feeling of anxiousness in the
aspiring pick-up artist (PUA) and as a result, they reflexively avert their eyes from
other people.
So what do I feel the key element is to good eye contact? I believe that element to
be: Thought.
What you think and how you think about it…
It’s been said countless times across all cultures throughout time that the eyes are
the window to the soul. I think a practical and effective way to interpret that is that
people can catch your “vibe” when they look into your eyes.
And I believe that your vibe is made from your thoughts and your beliefs. Not
what you do, not what you say, but what you “think” in the privacy of your own
mind.
If you are thinking fearful thoughts like the person looking at you is going to do
something bad, you’re going to feel anxious when they look at you because you’ll
feel like their seeing that. Like they are seeing your insecurity.
Or if you think critical, judgmental or mean thoughts of other people, you’ll feel
like they’re “catching you” in the act of committing some minor crime against
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them. Sure, your actions in the outer world may be very nice – you may be polite,
considerate and do good things for people. But if you’re judging people in your
head in a negative way as a default habit, eye contact will be tough.
Another common “thought crime” is being out only for yourself and looking at
someone in terms of how you can use them. Your eye contact may not necessarily
be bad (as in, you may not avert your eyes when someone looks at you), but you
will have the look of a “predator” or someone who is up to no good.
So I’ve talked about thought habits that make eye contact hard or unsuccessful. But
what do I think is the successful way to think in order to have good, warm, sexyeye contact?
Well, in terms of thinking, I make it a habit to think good thoughts of people
wherever I go and whomever they are. This takes discipline. It takes practice. I am
telling you this as a guy who’s reformed my own thought habits and found it to be
quite effective in attracting the women I want.
When I’m attracted to a woman, I “breathe in” her beauty through my eyes. When
I think about sex with her, I think about it as a giving act that is tremendously
pleasurable and liberating for her. Thinking of sex in that way (as if you are
dangling some delicious that she wants to take a bite of) will get you much further
than thinking of sex as a notch on your belt or as a masturbatory aid for you. Plus
your sex will most likely be better too.
Now that we’ve talked about eye contact and thought, now we can talk about some
mechanics of eye contact .
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Generally speaking, I would say focus on your thoughts and eye contact will be
eye and natural for you. In fact, I would say focus exclusively on the thoughts you
have and avoid thinking about physical eye contact mechanics – it’s a weird thing
to distract yourself with during a conversation.
Legend’s method for eye contact is much simpler, “Just believe that you’re good at
it.”
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Chapter 5:
Learning to Start Conversations
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Introduction:
Starting a conversation can be as simple as walking up and saying Hi or we can get
really complicated talking about Pick-up Lines, many different types of Openers,
and Opening routines.
Then we have different classifications which are basically all about how much
interest your showing and what type of frame your coming from.
Legend:
The Goal: Opening
In this section, I am going to talk about openers and give you some examples. The
goal for this section is to get you familiar with openers and opening routines so that
you can go out and practice starting conversations with the sole goal of just starting
a conversation.
The purpose of an opener is just to create situational comfort, unless you “go
direct” (that is, open the conversation with a statement that directly communicates
your interest in the woman). When you’re in a bar, you are just another random
person at the bar. You want to create a dialogue between you and a girl where she
is comfortable talking you. The point of openers is just to get a girl or the group
comfortable talking to you.
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Edge:
A note on pick-up lines
A lot of guys think that the power in meeting women in bars is in the pick-up line
they use. I know this because men are constantly e-mailing us about it!
Yes, Legend and I have some stock lines that we open conversations with, but we
don’t look at them like “pick-up lines”. We look at them as conversation starters…
something to move us from not talking to the women into talking with them. That’s
it – an opener should just be a quick 30-second pop just to get the ball rolling.
Pick-up lines are not my preference because I think they’re cheesy, they’re
contrived and worse, they are perceived to be the source of the man’s
conversational power instead of the man himself.
Now I want to talk briefly about the different styles of opening and about openingroutines. Everything can work whether it is an Indirect opener or Direct opener.
Many people prefer different things and different situations call for different
approaches. Also some integral elements to approaching such as False Time
Constraints, Body Rocking, and Rooting
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Types of Conversation starters and Openers
Situational
A situational opener can be used anywhere. This is where you comment on
something in the surrounding environment that you see. In that it is something
someone else is doing, something about the venue, or something that a girl was
wearing. These are extremely low risk and will almost never get bad reactions or
blowout.
Examples:
Talking about the weather
Talking about something you can see
Talking about something that’s happening
Talking about random comments that you don’t really pre-plan
Questions and Opinion Openers
Opinion openers are classic community openers such as “Who lies more”, “Jealous
girlfriend”, or “Spells.” The basis behind opinion openers is that you are just
asking a question. They’re great and work well in a social bar and nightclub
situations. They are very useful for people just starting to work on their social
skills. When you have a good question you can make the conversation about it for
20 minutes. This is not ideal for solid game, but a great way to get started being
social.
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Examples:
There are many classic community openers. I suggest making your own based on
something women talk about or something you like.
Direct
A direct opener is a type of opener where you express interest in talking to the girl
immediately. These can vary widely from expressing interest in her clothing to
telling her that she is sexy and you wanted to come over to meet her. The moreinterest you express, the more you instantly force her to make a decision whether
she wants to talk to you or not. This doesn’t give you time to win her over, but the
upside is that if she complies you are already setting the framework for the
interaction. It is usually a good idea to be qualifying her immediately after direct
opener. We’ll talk about qualifying and screening in a future section.
Examples:
Hey, I’m _______ I just had to come meet you.
You are adorable I just had to come meet you.
You sexy as fuck I just had to come meet you.
Screening and Qualification Openers
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A screening or qualification opener is where you are seeing if she will live up to
your standards right off the opener. These are more of a type of direct opener, but
from a screening perspective.
Examples:
Who are you?
Are you guy’s fun?
False Time Constraint
A False Time constraint is a technique that gives the impression that you are about
to leave, so whoever you are starting a conversation with doesn’t think that you
will hang around all night all night in the event that you are annoying or boring.
Verbal False Time Constraints
These can be used at any time during opener or whenever you need to convey the
fact that you were about to leave.
Example:
Real quick
I have to get back my friends
I only got a second
I have to go but
Nonverbal False Time Constraints
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Body Rocking is a technique where you move in and out giving the impression that
you were about to leave. This can be done by taking steps or by just shifting your
weight from 1 foot to the other.
Rooting in Your Opener
This is the technique where you give a reason why you’re asking the question. It
sometimes is necessary with opinion openers if your delivery is off or if they ever
ask you why you asking me this. It is a preemptive technique.
Example:
My buddies and I were having an argument and we need a female opinion to settle
it
My buddy had (some situation) happen to him; I want to get a woman’s
perspective
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Chapter 6:
Fear of Approaching Women.
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Legend:
Approach Anxiety
Approach anxiety really encompasses any fear that you may experience aboutstarting conversations with strangers. I believe this comes about from being
socially conditioned not to talk to strangers our entire lives.
Edge:
We Created Approach Anxiety
Let’s look at some of the social conditioning that we’ve seen as men throughout
our lives. I live in America where media images of love, dating, sex and
relationships are abundant.
Think of how many commercials you see where the product makes the man sexy
whereas he was a dud before. Think of how many scenes you’ve witnessed in
movies where a guy approaches an attractive woman and she flips out and throws a
drink in his face like he’s a flaming piece of shit. Think of how many TV shows
glorify the act of some woman rejecting the guy.
These are just images. They’re not real. They were created by advertisers, screen
writers and actors to be interesting to watch.
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Still, I can’t help but think that this has had a profound effect on guys in
mainstream America and the Western World at large. This is a cultural
phenomenon. There are other cultures and American subcultures where the idea of
a man having “approach anxiety” is just ludicrous.
What I’m driving at is that those of us who experience “approach anxiety” created
the experience ourselves. It may have been active (by interpreting our own failures
in life in an unuseful way) or it may have been passive (through witnessing
countless media images of approaching women being painful and something to
fear).
Regardless, we create approach anxiety and we can deconstruct it, desensitize
ourselves to it and replace it with something that is helpful.
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Legend:
Overcoming Approach Anxiety
Permanently overcoming approach anxiety comes down to progressively
desensitizing ourselves to the approach. It will take a lot of work and many
approaches, but I believe we can get there just like we can conquer any fear.
Dealing with approach anxiety in the field is only accomplished by pushing
through the fear. Once we take action and start to approach it becomes mucheasier. Using tactics like immediately approaching the first group you see when
you enter a venue and utilizing Mystery’s 3 second rule (where you see the girl you
want and you immediately approach her, within 3 seconds) will help you
immensely with approach anxiety.
If you follow the rule of always being in set (that is, always being in a conversation
with people), even if you’re only talking to guys, as long as you are talkative and
pushing forward you’ll avoid a lot of anxiety.
My simple advice: Act before you can think yourself out of taking action.
Hesitation kills motivation.
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Bottom line the more that you practice and gain reference experiences, the easier it
will become.
Edge:
Getting Over Approach Anxiety through Visualization
I heard about a scientific study that was done once regarding visualization and
success. In the study, they split a gym class into 3 groups. Each of the 3 groups
practiced free-throws in basketball and the amount of successful throws in each
group was recorded.
Then, over the course of the month, they gave each group a different task. The first
group did nothing. The second group practiced free throws everyday for 10
minutes. The third group visualized throwing successful free throws for 10 minutes
(they only visualized; they never actually touched a basketball.)
After a month, the practitioners tested each group’s ability to successfully shoot
free throws. The first group showed no improvement. The second group showed
significant improvement.
But the astounding finding of the study was that the third group improved just as
much as the second group at shooting successful free throws… and they never
touched a basketball once during their 10 minutes of “practice”.
I am a strong advocate of daily visualization. I practice this myself – I even chart
my daily practice of visualizations to record that I am indeed doing them every
day.
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When it comes to women, I visualize that when I talk to women they have big
smiles on their faces. They’re excited to talk with me. They’re attracted to me –
hell; they’re even throwing themselves at me. And it works – my abilities with
women increased tenfold when I began visualizing success on a consistent, daily basis.
At the very least, I would encourage you to STOP practicing “missing your free
throws”. Speaking from experience, I can tell you that it is incredibly counter-
productive to imagine things going badly before you approach women. If you’re
not going to take on the practice of visualizing success, at least find a way to
interrupt and replace any habit you may having of anticipating failure.
I will add one final comment : This is NOT a replacement for taking action in the
real world. This is a supplement to help you improve your real world results. You
must be continuously and consistently talking to new women as often as possible
to make a marked improvement in your skills and abilities.
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Chapter 7:
Dealing with Groups and Group Dynamics
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Group Theory and Set Logistics
Legend:
Group theory
When we are out gaming, there are different kinds of groups (sets) and each one
requires slightly different tactics for the best results. Remember, everything is just
a guideline and sometimes rules are meant to be broken.
In all groups you are going to have a girl that you want (target) and her friends (the
obstacles). I find it best to befriend and be nice to everyone until they give you areason not to be. If you are trying to game a girl in a group, you’re going to have to
win over her friends.
Single girl (One Set or “Lone Wolf”)
The “lone wolf” is a single girl. This is very common during the day and rare at
night. From my experience, I suggest going direct because you do not have to
worry about disarming and befriending her friends. Her peer group is not standing
there and able to judge her, so she is free to act in any way she chooses. If you see
a single girl out at the bar, she is usually there for one thing, to get laid. Go
approach her now.
Two People (Two Set)
A group of two people is one of the more difficult sets because you will have to
keep them both occupied. If you leave one of them alone, they are likely to drag
the other one off. You can game them as a single set or enlist someone nearby to
occupy the obstacle.
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Chapter 8:
Staying in Conversation
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Legend:
Staying in conversation
One of the first sticking points you may encounter is staying in conversation. Once
you learn to open you need to learn how to transition into starting a conversation.
The first major pitfall that some people experience is ejecting for no reason. This
may come about because you feel that you don't know what to say next or there
was an awkward silence. The more you force yourself to stand there "in set", themore your brain will begin to come up with things to say. Even if they aren't so
good, the point is that you learn to deal with the social pressure.
Transitioning (Hooking the Conversation)
After opening, you want to get into a normal conversation and this is where you
reach the Hook point. For me hooking is all about that point where instead of
them wanting to leave, they want you to stay. This can be done in a number of
ways, but your goal is to make them want to talk to you.
You can set up a situation where they want to talk to you before you even open.
This is the most effective way to Hook the group or you can use one of the
techniques listed below.
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Stacking
Stacking is a technique where you stop talking about one thing and start talking
about a completely different thing. When you're talking in a bar there really is no
transition necessary. You can go from talking about the sky to talking about
apples; you don't need a reason to just talk. A technique known as stacking
forward is where you cut the thread (whenever you're talking about) and just start
talking about something else. This allows you to shift the conversation through
different topics rapidly till you hit something that the people you're talking to are
interested in and then they will hook.
Edge: Something to consider here is that this does not just apply to choice of
conversational topics. Sometimes what you choose as a topic doesn't really matter
as much as how you talk about it and what within that subject you choose to talk
about.
For example, once I was talking about something with a group of girls and the
conversation wasn't really going anywhere. At that time, the real problem was thatI was just moving my lips and there was no engagement or real interest behind
what I was saying. But then I just noticed something in the environment and
commented on it in a sarcastic way... it was at that moment that the girls busted up
laughing and the whole tone changed. Hooking the conversation didn't take place
in this instance because of a different topic, but because of a different energy .
Just something to keep in mind...
Legend:
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Multiple Threading
Multiple threading is a form of conversation that we use with people who we are
familiar with. Think of it as stacking different things and weaving one into
another. When you're in the middle of one conversation topic or story you can cut
and move to a different one and cut and move to a different one, then when one
runs out you can change back to whatever one you want. This is a great technique
for quickly getting into conversation with a stranger and then all of a sudden, they
don't think of you as a stranger anymore.
PlowingPlowing is a technique that is somewhat more aggressive. You will force your
conversation on people by cutting their conversational threads and talking over
them. I find it useful in loud fast-paced environments to quickly gain attention and
get people into your conversation. Some people prefer a more tactful way of
getting to the conversation. This is blunt, but it works very well if it fits your
personality.
Leading Back and Locking In
Being in a relaxed position; one where you are in the position of power is probably
the most important aspect of staying in conversation. If you can be leaning against
the bar or a wall and have the girls leaning into you, then it looks like they are
gaming you . As a result of this you will start to notice proximity (proximity is
other girls standing near/around you within a few feet.) Many times you will even
get approached by girls. This almost never happens when you are not locked in set
(again, that is having a girl or girls in a position where you are in a laid back
position and they are standing, talking to you as if they are gaming you). Basically
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you want to look like you are the most relaxed. You should be the one sitting or
leaning back, not them. Go into set, open, and then move the set around so you
have the position of power. If you are in an uncomfortable position in relation to
the group, then your value will drop (that is, other women in the bar will view youas some guy who's walking up to chicks and trying to talk to them like some
beggar). If you are in the position of power then your value will stay the same if
not rise. Probably rise.
Edge:
A couple thoughts on this. I have found my best conversations with strangers at
bars were when I was doing something in my life that I was passionate about.
Note: That doesn't necessarily even mean that I was talking about those things!! It
just means that what I was doing at that moment in my life was so captivating, so
compelling and so interesting to me that it really didn't matter whether or not I
talked to a woman nor had any success at all that night.
At the same time, it is tremendously helpful and important to have something (or
several things) in your life that you passionately enjoy and are excited about. For
some, that means working on a major work project. For some, that means just
loving life - REALLY loving it and enjoying it. Generally speaking, the guys that
do the best with women are the fun guys who really enjoy life. Movies and TV
might dictate that it's the "tough guy", the one who doesn't smile and is just an
asshole, but this isn't the case in real life. Have balls, but be happy.
Staying in conversation can be a huge challenge if you don’t know what to say.
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once and for all solve the “I ran out of things to say” syndrome. Go here and check
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Chapter 9:
Getting the Number
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Getting the phone number
Legend:
The next step is getting the number. A lot of guys wonder how to get a girl's
number or how to ask a girl for her phone number. Really, this one is short and
sweet - a lot of people complicate the entire getting a girl's number situation. If
you can start the conversation and get them interested in talking to you, you can
get the number almost every time. All you have to do is just ask for it.
At this point, don't think about flakes or how to deal with them. Right now, if you
are at the point where you are learning to get into conversations, you should ask for
the girl's number before you part ways, just so you get in the habit of asking them.
For so many pickup artists, this is a huge sticking point where they remain for six
months. They can open and start conversations, but they don't get numbers
because they just don't ask for the number .
All the number is... is a number. It just means she's open to the idea of talking toyou more right now. The best tip for exchanging numbers I can think of is make
sure she saves it in her phone . You never know if they will pick up or not. I've
had girls that I've made out and talked for hours with not pick up the phone. On
the flip side I've had girls that I talked to for a minute pick up the phone. You will
never know unless you try calling. At this point, get into the habit of doing it
with everyone. Get their number, just ask for it. If they don't want to give it to
you for some reason then fluff talk some more or more make them laugh some
more or connect little more ask again and you'll get it without failure.
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Edge:
I completely agree with Legend: Getting numbers is easy and over-thinking about
it is a trap. Avoid that trap.
One thing to remember is that you NEVER know. Don't assume you do. Don't
assume you know whether or not she'll give you a number. Don't assume she will
or will not pick up. Don't assume anything.
Instead, just go for it. You always win: you'll either get a great experience or you
may end up getting laid or starting a great relationship. You never know.
During the initial phase of learning to meet women, I always asked for their
number just to get into the habit. This was a great and very useful practice for me.
However, these days I do things differently now that I am used to asking for
numbers and completely comfortable with it.
These days, I assume the follow-up . What does this mean? Well, once I've talked
to a woman for more than 5 minutes, I'm going to start tossing out imaginary
things that we're going to do when we hang out. If I happened to mention a
carnival and she said, "I love the carnival!" I might respond with something like,
"You know what? We totally should go to the carnival together," and then I'll
follow it up with some really silly playful push like, "oh wait, what am I talking
about? You're weird, I don't even like you." (I would say something like this with
a big, playful smile on my face.)
Over the next few minutes, I would just talk with her and imply that we have
plans... Or just explicitly make plans. Depending on the girl and situation,
sometimes I'll use direct game and sometimes I'll use indirect game (my criteria for
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what I'll use is a different discussion for a different time). All in all, the basic rule
is that I will set up the date and make her feel that feeling of "of course we'll hang
out!" before I ask for the number.
One great tip someone mentioned (I can't remember who or I would give credit)
- he said to give the girl some kind of playful nickname during your conversation.
That way, you can use it when you call her and re-establish the memories and
feelings she had with you during the first conversation. In NLP terms, one might
call that a conversational anchor .
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Chapter 10 :
Creating A Connection
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Creating Rapport, Deep Comfort and Wide Rapport
Legend:
What to talk about once you hook
Once you're reaching a point where a girl wants you to stay and talk, I assume
attraction and begin to connect with her. The point of forming a connection is
really to figure out some commonalities and things that you can do together to set
up a future date. Some people argue that they want to talk about crazy deep
subjects but for now I would suggest that you just get used to talking about what
each of you do for work, what you guys do for fun, and if you want to get into it
really what you're passionate about.
Edge:
I would say that conversations in clubs should really focus more on vibe than
subject matter. In other words, DEFINITELY don't try to be deep or profound -
keep it fun, light and engaging, but not deep.
I very much enjoy having deep, profound conversations about different subjects.
But I can guarantee that even if you manage to get a girl engaged into a deepconversation with you, she will run off the moment she sees something shiny-
looking and fun (metaphorically speaking). Women do not go to clubs to think .
They go there to feel .
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Legend:
Creating rapport and connection also known as building comfort
In the seduction community, there are two types of rapport:
Wide rapport
Getting wide rapport would consist of talking about any number of subjects andkeeping it light / surface-level as you talk about a ton of things. You talk about
your job, talk about her job, her about pets, talk about what you like to do for fun...
really anything. The principle behind wide rapport is that you both get to know a
little bit about everything in each other’s lives.
I suggest get to know a little bit about her then pick one topic and delve deeper into
it.
Deep rapport
Depending on the situation, I think deep rapport is a great way to feel a really
strong emotional connection. Think of deep rapport as deeply delving into one
specific topic that you're both interested in or that you yourself are interested in or
something that she is passionate about. If it's something that she is passionate
about and you can connect it to your life, great. I like to talk about what I do for
work and how I'm passionate about it and I like to talk about her passions. You're
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talk about things that she is passionate about. The same way if you go into a set
nervous, then you will make everyone nervous and uncomfortable. Emotional
states are contagious. Use this to your advantage. Talk about things that you love
and really feel them inside. She will start to do the same and then you will create aconnection.
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Chapter 11:
Bringing it all together
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Legend:
Where you are now
A lot of the methods of vastly over complicate things. If you practice the first 10steps you will be at a point where you can start practicing your phone game and
going on day two's. If you can open and hook the conversation to the point where
the girl wants to talk to you then you can get her number almost all the time.
Then, if you work on connecting on topics then you have all you need to give you
a solid start in cold approaching. With just those skills and repeated
approaching you should have girls to go on a dates with if you practiceenough.
If you are hitting a sticking point and not getting the results you want yet then
sometimes you need a professionals touch. I know since I’ve been there before
learning “game” that I can quickly help you get to where you want to be.
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Where are you Going
Over the next four articles, we are going to talk about what you'll need to really
progress from connecting with the girl to actually bedding the girl. Once we have
gone through these steps we will talk about more advanced aspects and techniques
that you can work into your cold approach game to drastically improve it. I think
it's great to keep things simple and small chunk your learning but once you have
the fundamentals down it's time to expand into the advanced section. Still there is
no point in worrying about building massive attraction or qualifying a girl if you
can't get her interested in having conversations with you. Stick to the basics until
you have them then expand.
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Section 2:
Taking it to the Next Step
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Phone game and TXT message Game
Legend:
How to use the phone number
My perspective on using the phone number is to text her that same night or
immediately the next day. I like to throw a few texts back and forth and then
transition to the phone as soon as possible. I can't tell you how many numbers have
stalled out on me just because of not transitioning to talking on the phone quickly.We all feel accomplished because we got the phone number, but it can come at a
price. Now that the feeling of accomplishment is there, it can actually prevent us
from calling to prevent us from possibly losing that feeling of validation by the fact
that now she might not pick up.
In reality a guy could've had a perfect cold approach and she just doesn't pick up
for some unknown reason. You have to get in the mindset that some things are justout of your control and just because it's not working on the phone doesn't mean
you didn't do a good job before. This is a very difficult barrier to push through, but
phone numbers just mean they want to talk to you - use them as quickly as possible
to get the two of you back meeting in real life.
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Edge:
I think a lot of guys get carried away in worrying about phone rules and whatnot. I
have had a lot of success calling the girl when I feel like it because I don't put a ton
of stock on it either way. It doesn't really matter to me all that much if I don't get
this particular girl, this particular time. So for anyone concerned about the 3 day
rule or how long to wait before you call a woman you met , I would just say put
your focus on lightening up and not caring so much about results. Caring too
much about how something might turn out is a sure-fire way to lose...
Legend:
TXT message Game
My text message game really consists of sending a simple text of "do you speaktext?" then I will usually say something funny connecting what we talked about the
night before and move on to the phone.
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Edge:
When it comes to texts, I keep it simple, light and funny. I'll usually call her some
nickname and be a little playful, referencing something I talked to her earlier. It's a
great way to build up a one-on-one bond with you... even if it is just by texting
over a phone, she's still focusing entirely on your banter and that further bonds her
to you.
Legend:
Phone game and talking on the phone
The phone is a great comfort building location. Really, I want to just get on there
and get comfortable talking to each other like you're just old friends. Once you've
established that it's okay to call each other then it's much easier to meet up and
continue to talk to each other.
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Edge:
When it comes to phone game, I usually do a few things. First, typically before I
call them I will have already talked to them for a while and had some kind of
banter. I will probably have gotten a sense of her sense of humor and maybe even
come up with a nickname for her. When I make the call, I touch on those themes
again to kind of re-enliven the feelings she had when she was talking to me
originally. Then, once the conversation is at a high note, I will quickly say, "Hey, I
gotta go . Any big plans tomorrow?" or whenever I want to
plan the date... Then I'll just say that we're going to go somewh