Questions for discussion

Who is Kony? 1. What did the BtN story mainly explain? 2. How many people saw the Kony 2012 film in the first 6 days of release? 3. What is the main aim of the Kony 2012 campaign? 4. Joseph Kony is the leader of which rebel group? 5. Why is Kony number one on the most wanted war criminals list? 6. Why do the creators of Kony 2012 want to make Kony famous? 7. How is social media being used in the Kony 2012 campaign? 8. Why are influential people being targeted to help with the campaign? 9. What criticism has there been about the video? 10. Do you think the Kony 2012 campaign will make a difference to the people in

Uganda? Explain your answer.

` Can the Kony campaign actually make a difference?’ Vote in the BtN online poll

http://www.abc.net.au/btn/

Beating bullies

1. Discuss the issues raised in the BtN story with another student. 2. What do you think the term anti-bullying means? 3. About one in four Aussie kids has been bullied. True or false? 4. What is bullying? 5. Give some examples of bullying-type behaviour. 6. How did bullying affect Tim Pocock from Dance Academy? 7. What sorts of things did Woodville High students do to raise awareness about

bullying? 8. Why is it important for kids to stand-up for their classmates who are being

bullied? 9. Illustrate an aspect of the Beating bullies story. 10. What do you understand more clearly since watching this story?

Create a T chart about the similarities and differences of face to face and online bullying.

Saving orangutans

1. Briefly summarise the BtN Saving orangutans story. 2. How much money has Daniel and his brother raised to help the orangutans? 3. Describe the memorable moment for Daniel when he travelled to Borneo. 4. Which condition does Daniel have? 5. Why are orangutans under threat? 6. Retell what happened when Daniel met former Prime Minister John Howard. 7. How much money did the government promise to give to help the

orangutans?

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8. How are Daniel and William teaching kids about orangutans? 9. What have they done with the money raised from selling books? 10. How did this story make you feel?

Research which products contain palm oil and why it can be difficult for consumers to know if products contain palm oil.

Rookie reporter

1. Retell the Rookie reporter story. 2. How old is Jacob? 3. Which event has Jacob just got a job reporting on? 4. Why is it a huge opportunity for Jacob? 5. Describe the website Jacob has started. 6. About how many hits a day does his website get? 7. Name three facts about blogs. 8. How did Jacob get more people to read his blog? 9. What is Jacob’s aim for his website? 10. What was inspiring about Jacob’s story?

Visit Jacob’s website http://sportingjournal.com.au/ and go to the `about’ and `the team’ pages to find out more about the website.

Swim star 1. Discuss the Swim star story with another student. 2. Why are the Australian Swimming Championships an important event? 3. Which event did Kimberley compete in? 4. How many times a week does Kimberley train? 5. How does she balance swimming with her other commitments? 6. What does Kimberley think about when she’s training in the pool? 7. Which swimming heroes did Kimberley meet? 8. Why are big feet an advantage for swimmers? 9. What character traits do you think you would need to be a successful

swimmer? 10. If you could send a message to Kimberley, what would it be?

Post a message on the Behind the News Guestbook http://abc.net.au/btn/guestbook.html

Who is Kony? Focus Questions

1. What did the BtN story mainly explain? 2. How many people saw the Kony 2012 film in the first 6 days of release? 3. What is the main aim of the Kony 2012 campaign? 4. Joseph Kony is the leader of which rebel group? 5. Why is Kony number one on the most wanted war criminals list? 6. Why do the creators of Kony 2012 want to make Kony famous? 7. How is social media being used in the Kony 2012 campaign? 8. Why are influential people being targeted to help with the campaign? 9. What criticism has there been about the video? 10. Do you think the Kony 2012 campaign will make a difference to the people in

Uganda? Explain your answer.

Who is Kony? Students will examine persuasive texts and create an argument about whether

online awareness campaigns like Kony 2012 make a difference. Ask students to

discuss in small groups what they know about persuasive texts and give examples

of them. Have a range of texts to show students including letters to the editor,

advertisements and brochures. Discuss the purpose of each text and the

techniques used to persuade the audience.

Students will then write a persuasive argument based on the following question: Will the Kony 2012 online campaign make a difference? Some questions to consider:

What is the campaign’s main aim?

What is the value of raising awareness?

Does it oversimplify complex issues?

Structure of an argument Statement of position

State what the issue or topic is. Form a clear, forceful statement of position or opinion. The audience should be clear about the stand being taken by the author.

Argument stage

Construct arguments that support the author’s point of view. Each paragraph starts with a topic sentence which introduces each point. The rest of the paragraph gives more reasons. Arguments can be ordered from strongest to weakest.

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Learning Area

English, Society and Environment

Key learning

Students will write a persuasive argument about whether the Kony 2012 campaign will make a difference. Students can include photographs, pictures or diagrams in their report.

Conclusion

Restates the author’s position. Summarises the main arguments.

Language features Words that link arguments (because, therefore) Evaluative language (important, best, safest) Thinking verbs (we believe, people think) Persuasive Writing Plan Introduction Firstly Argument 1 + 2 elaborations In addition Argument 2 + 2 elaborations Finally Argument 3 + 2 elaborations Conclusion Students can publish their arguments in one of the following ways:

Slide show using Microsoft Power Point

Brochure using Publisher

Letter to the editor

Speech/oral presentation

Short film using Movie Maker or Photo Story

Reflection

Ask students to think about how difficult it was to think of arguments to support

their case. Do they think they could have created a stronger argument for the

opposing view?

Further Investigation

A group called Invisible Children are responsible for the Kony 2012 campaign. Write a letter to Invisible Children asking three questions about the campaign.

Related Research Links

ABC News – Who is Joseph Kony?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-08/who-is-joseph-kony/3877490

ABC Darwin – Kony social media campaign sparks scepticism

http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2012/03/08/3448740.htm

UNICEF – Talking with children about conflict and war

http://www.unicef.org.au/downloads/Advocacy/Talking-with-children-about-

conflict-and-war.aspx

Beating bullies

Focus Questions 1. Discuss the issues raised in the BtN story with another student. 2. What do you think the term anti-bullying means? 3. About one in four Aussie kids has been bullied. True or false? 4. What is bullying? 5. Give some examples of bullying-type behaviour. 6. How did bullying affect Tim Pocock from Dance Academy? 7. What sorts of things did Woodville High students do to raise awareness about

bullying? 8. Why is it important for kids to stand-up for their classmates who are being

bullied? 9. Illustrate an aspect of the Beating bullies story. 10. What do you understand more clearly since watching this story?

Beating bullies Negotiate with students how many activities they will need to complete from each section. Remember and understand

List all the ways to help stop bullying that you can think of.

Create a T chart about the similarities and differences of face to face and online bullying.

What behaviour counts as bullying-type behaviour?

Apply and Analyse

Research ways to deal with face to face or cyber bullying. Find out: Three things a victim/target can do if they are being bullied Three things a bystander can do to help stop bullying Three ways adults/parents can respond to or support someone who is being bullied. Share your responses with the class.

Survey the class to find out the ways they know of to stop bullying or what they already know about bullying. Incorporate the information into a board game or quiz about bullying.

Put strategies to stop bullying in order from most effective to least effective.

Evaluate and create

Using the online poster making software Glogster

http://www.glogster.com/ create a guide about cyber bullying to educate

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Learning Area

Health and Physical Education, Society and Environment

Key learning

Students will develop a deeper understanding of what bullying behaviour is and strategies to deal with it.

Students can include photographs, pictures or diagrams in their report.

and support young people. Include information about:

What it means to be a responsible cyber citizen

How to stay safe online

What can be the consequences for people who bully online?

What support is available for people who are being bullied online?

Choose a one of the bullying episodes from ABC 3’s My Great Big Adventure http://www.abc.net.au/abc3/mygreatbigadventure/ (click on the bullying tab) and review it. Does the information included in the episode help those who are being bullied? Explain your answer.

Determine the best ways to prevent bullying in your school. What policies/strategies does you school have in place to prevent and deal with bullying? What more could be done? Come up with some recommendations to present to the Student Representative Council, school leadership or Governing Council.

Related Research Links

ABC News – Anti-bullying phone app released

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-16/fed-government-releases-anti-bullying-

phone-app/3895140

Bullying No Way – Resources for children

http://www.takeastandtogether.gov.au/under13/index.html

Think u know - National Day of Action Against Bullying and Violence

http://www.thinkuknow.org.au/site/ndaabv12.asp

Kids Helpline

http://www.kidshelpline.com.au/

ACMA – Cybersmart

http://www.cybersmart.gov.au/

Raising Children Network – Bullying: How to spot it

http://raisingchildren.net.au/articles/bullying.html

ABC 3 – My Great Big Adventure

http://www.abc.net.au/abc3/mygreatbigadventure/

BtN: Episode 06 Transcript

20/3/12

On this week's Behind the News.

Beating the bullies schools stand together to say No Way to

bullying.

We meet the amazing kid who's on a mission to save the

orangutans.

And from bedroom blog to Olympic dream how this kid

snagged a job as a sports reporter.

Hi I'm Nathan Bazley, welcome to Behind the News. Also on the show

we meet a young swimmer who got to line up against her heroes at the

national swimming championships. But first today:

Who Is Kony?

Reporter: Nathan Bazley

INTRO: it's one of the most talked about news stories of the year, an

online campaign called Kony 2012. It's all about a war criminal in

Africa called Joseph Kony. And the campaign hopes that by making

him famous it will encourage governments to try harder to catch

him. It's an unusual media strategy so could it actually work?

NATHAN BAZLEY, REPORTER: Have you ever watched a film and

come out of it feeling different. As if just seeing it, changed how you

view the world.

A staggering 100 million people saw this film in just its first 6 days of

release online. And for many of them, their world changed as they

learnt about one man for the first time.

KONY 2012: To level with you, this movie expires on December 31,

2012, and its only purpose is to stop the rebel group, the LRA, and

their leader, Joseph Kony.

But who is this man that until two weeks ago, went unnoticed by so

many? Can he really be that bad? To find out, let's take a look at the

man with his name now plastered over social networks worldwide -

Joseph Kony.

Uganda is a country in Africa that has been plagued by violence for a

very long time.

A rebel group, called the Lord's Resistance Army or LRA, has been

fighting the government under the leadership of Joseph Kony. And

under his orders, they're known to have done some horrible things,

like abducting tens of thousands of children and forcing them to fight

in his war.

These acts have made Kony number one on a list of the United

Nation's most wanted war criminals. Yet most people hadn't heard of

him. That was, until this 21st century social media experiment came

along and swept the globe with a success not even seen by Hollywood

blockbusters.

But how does this film aim to fix such a big problem? What's the

strategy?

KONY 2012: I'm about to tell you exactly how we're going to do it.

Well simply, they just want to make him famous.

KONY 2012: We are going to make Joseph Kony a household name -

not to celebrate him but to bring his crimes to the light.

Their first step is just asking you to watch the video and send it on.

The second step in the plan is to target influential people, including

celebrities like Rihanna and Lady Gaga.

These people have huge followings online and as you know, they have

the ability to make a big impact with the things they say. And finally,

the third step is to blanket whole cities with posters next month.

Through these steps, the filmmakers are hoping to use massive people

power to put pressure on politicians to try harder in their hunt for

Kony.

That strategy has seen the film rocket around the world in an

unbelievable way. But it's also that strategy that has got some people

offside.

Some say it doesn't ask people to do enough, while others say it makes

a very complicated problem sound way too simple. And some warn

that getting rid of Kony won't solve all the problems in Uganda

anyway. But the organisation that made the film say they are going to

keep following through on the problem until it's solved. And they ask

everyone who's watched the film, all 100 million of them, to follow it

through with them.

Presenter: It's an interesting issue let's make it our poll this week.

Online Poll

The question is:

Can the Kony campaign actually make a difference?

To vote just head to our website.

Last week we asked whether people should be forced to leave their

homes during a serious flood. 80 per cent said yes and 20 per cent

said no. Thanks for voting.

Let's see what else is making the news. Here's Sophia with the Wire?

The Wire

A man has died in Sydney after being shot by a police Taser. Police

thought the man may have been involved in a robbery on a

convenience store. Some reports suggest all that was stolen was a

packet of biscuits. Police sometimes use Tasers instead of handguns.

They give people an electric shock which stops them moving. But in

some cases the shock can cause death. A police investigation is

underway.

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Wikileaks founder, Julian Assange, says he's going to run for a seat in

the Australian Senate. His website has been responsible for leaking of

lots of top secret government documents. He lives in London where

he's currently under house arrest but he can run for a seat in the

Australian parliament because he was born here.

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And a big happy birthday to the Sydney harbour bridge. The

landmark is 80 years old having been officially opened back in March

1932. It's crossed by more than 160 thousand vehicles on weekdays

and is climbed by thousands every year.

Beating Bullies

Reporter: Sarah Larsen

INTRO: Bullying is a big problem for kids all over the world. It's

something schools, parents, and the government take really

seriously and last Friday there was a national day of action against

bullying and violence. Sarah takes a look at how bullying affects

people and how kids are standing up against it.

SARAH LARSEN, Reporter: If you've ever felt lonely in a playground

full of kids, if people have made you feel sad, scared or angry, then

you're not alone. About one in four Aussie kids has been bullied.

REPORTER: Bullying can take all different forms and it's not always

obvious. If someone deliberately makes you feel bad whether it's with

words or actions, that's bullying.

KID: I get home one day and on Facebook this really mean comment

from one of my friends. I don't think they understood that it really

hurt me.

KID: I was just like sitting down and this kid just walked up and

slapped me in the back of my head. I didn't want to go to school. I

used to try and get detention because he couldn't hurt me.

KID: Opened up my locker and there was this note in there basically

telling me to go back to my own school. They called me names. They

told me I didn't fit in here; I was feeling really alone even though

there were thousands of girls around.

But the good news is, it doesn't last forever. Some really successful

and popular adults were bullied as kids, like Dance Academy star Tim

Pocock who talked to Kayne from ABC 3 about how bullying affected

him.

TIM POCOCK, Dance Academy Actor: One of the things my mum

used to say all the time; “don't let it get to you, rise above it, take it on

the chin. I know it's going to be really hard but just put up with it

because in ten or fifteen years time it's not going to matter”.

KAYNE: People always offer that kind of advise, don't they? Like they

always, go "it won't last forever so just grin and bear it and be strong"

but when you're in it, it is often really hard to pull off.

TIM: That's right and you don't believe them because right here and

then in that moment it's your life and it seems like it's been going on

forever you don't see any rainbow at the end of the cloud but I know

that's not true, your life goes off in a different direction after school.

Even at school there are things you can do and that's what last Friday

was all about.

Here at Woodville High students ran workshops on staying safe and

avoiding bullies on Facebook.

KID: We're basically just helping the year nines to change their

privacy settings, their account settings just so they're safer on the

internet.

They also made a poster encouraging kids to report bullying even if

it's happening to someone else.

KIDS: on our school website we have a special section to report

bullies if you're not too conformable going to a teacher and telling

them this person being bullied. I'm being bullied and you just go on

the website from home or school.

The kids at St Frances Xavier take inspiration from a cartoon bully

busting mascot called Frankie.

KID: It's a good way to teach the little kids not to bully when they're

older.

They're taught to stand-up for their classmates and not be a

bystander.

KID: A bystander is when you just stand there watching people being

bullied.

KID: Because if bullies don't have the numbers behind them they'll

start to decrease

And by working together, kids have the power to make school a

happier place for everyone.

KIDS: Bullying NO WAY

Presenter: And if you're affected by that story you should talk to your

teacher or a parent. Or there's lots of information and helpline

numbers to call on the BtN website.

OK, we're going to have a story about orangutans next. But first let's

have a quiz about them.

Quiz 1

Reporter: Natasha Thiele

The question is:

Where would you find orangutans in the wild?

Borneo

Brazil

Bhutan

Answer: Borneo

Borneo is a large island in South East Asia and that's where we're

heading for our next story.

Saving Orangutans

Reporter: Sarah Larsen

INTRO: It's about an Aussie kid who's made it his mission to save the

endangered orangutans. And on his journey so far Daniel Clark has

met a Prime Minister, travelled to Borneo, written a book with his

brother and together they've raised more than six hundred thousand

dollars for the cause. Sarah has their story.

SARAH LARSEN, Reporter: It's a moment Daniel and his brother

William will never forget; travelling through the forests of Borneo and

coming face to face with wild orangutans.

DANIEL CLARKE: Just to be able to see the orangutans in their

natural habitat, was really a moment I'll remember for the rest of my

life.

It's a pretty extraordinary experience for any 10-year-old but, then,

Daniel's a pretty extraordinary kid. He was born with Cerebral Palsy

which is a condition that affects his speech and movement. But he's

always been smart and doesn't let disability stop him from doing

anything.

But it was Daniel's passion for organutans that set his whole family on

a life changing journey. These gentle red apes are some of humans'

closest relatives. They live in the forests of Borneo and Sumatra, and

they're under threat. Lots of the jungle has been cleared so people can

farm palm oil which is used in cosmetics and food.

Adult orangutans are often hunted, leaving babies orphaned. Daniel

was determined to help. So when the Starlight Foundation offered to

grant Daniel a wish back in 2007, he only had one answer.

RODNEY CLARKE, Daniel's Father: We said to Daniel, well, yes,

"What would you like? Would you like a new car for Daddy? Or would

you like to go to Disneyland or something like that?" And after a

while, he came back to us and he said, "I really want to save the

orangutans in Borneo and Sumatra. That's my wish".

Unfortunately it wasn't something the kid’s charity could do. But they

did send Daniel to a Wallabies match where he met John Howard -

the prime minister at the time.

DANIEL: I told him my passion to save the orangutan, and back then

my goal was to raise $10,000.

Six weeks later Daniel got a letter in the mail from the PM himself.

The government promised $500,000 to help save organutan habitats.

DANIEL: I thought, "Wow, that's fantastic."

But it didn't end there.

Daniel became the youth ambassador for the Australian Orangutan

Project.

And it was here at an orangutan sanctuary in Borneo that Daniel's

dream became his brother's too.

WILLIAM CLARKE: When I was looking into the eyes of the

orangutan - and I really saw for the first time, when you actually see

them with your own eyes, you can just see into them. They're so like

us. They laugh like us, they feel hurt, they feel emotions the same as

us.

Now the boys are working together to teach kids about organutans

They've written a book using pictures from their Borneo trip.

WILLIAM: So maybe, "Organutans give birth every five years"?

WILLIAM: We sold so many books that we've been able to protect

500 acres of land over in the jungles of Borneo.

They hope that if others can learn to love these amazing creatures

they'll join the fight to save them.

So in the future there'll still be orangutans around to inspire kids like

Daniel.

Presenter: Amazing effort.

Rookie Reporter

Reporter: Matt Holbrook

INTRO: Now, imagine getting a front seat at the Olympic Games to

watch all the action. Sound pretty cool? Well, that dream is about to

come true for one Aussie kid.

But this 14 year old isn't only there to watch the games he's going to

be working as a reporter! Matt finds out how he landed the gig.

For many of the world's greatest athletes, all their hard work, time

and dedication is aimed at one thing: the Olympic Games. Only the

very best make it there, and that's not just true for athletes! Reporting

from the Olympics as a sports journalist is about as good as it gets.

And among all these experienced reporters at London 2012 will be an

Aussie school kid who's landed the reporting role of a life-time.

Jacob's a regular kid. He plays video games and loves sports. But

when he comes home after a long day at school he gets down to work.

Jacob runs a website all about sport. He doesn't make money out of it

yet, but he's hoping to build it up, and it seems to be working. What

started out as a simple blog now gets up to 500 hits a day.

JACOB: I couldn't even think about doing this a year and a half ago

even, it's gone a long way really, really fast.

From looking at the articles on his site, you'd probably have no idea

that on the other end is a fourteen year old kid who created it and

writes the stories. Jacob's worked really hard to make his site as

professional as possible, and that's paid off. He's now been invited to

write for a news site in Canada, and as a result gets to go to the

Olympics as an official reporter.

JACOB: I'll be doing stories as well as interviews for their daily today

news show which will be broadcast online.

It's a huge opportunity for Jacob, but when his mum found out, she

couldn't believe it.

JACOB'S MUM: I remember just sort of gulping and going okay, be

positive. You know, encourage him. Where really inside I was going,

no way.

Jacob's journey all started by writing down a few ideas on a blog.

REPORTER: Starting a blog is usually free, but most sites require you

to be at least 13. There are templates you can use to help design your

site, and then it's as simple as typing what you want to say, and

hitting the post button.

But if you think that making a blog is a quick ticket to reporting at the

Olympics, think again! There are hundreds of thousands of online

blogs that rarely get seen by anyone.

Jacob used social media, like Twitter, to draw more people to his blog.

And when it took off in a big way, he decided to pay to get a proper

website address, and sportingjournal.com.au was born.

JACOB: I'd like to make it a lot bigger than it is now hopefully get a

larger audience and get more people so providing more content online

for the sporting journal.

Like any other fourteen year old, Jacob's got homework to do. And his

mum says that has to come first! Looking ahead, he hopes to study

journalism at uni. And if he does, there may be many more Olympic

trips to come.

Presenter: OK, there's been a lot of talk about social media and the

internet today. Let's have a quiz about it.

Quiz 2

The question is:

Who has the most followers on Twitter?

Barack Obama

Lady Gaga

Justin Bieber

Answer: Lady Gaga

She has more than 20 million followers. Biebs has around 18 million.

And poor old Barack has just under 13 million. And I have 350 not

million just 350. OK, let's move on before I start feeling sorry for

myself.

Here's the sport Sophia has the Score.

The Score

Jenson Button has taken out the Melbourne Grand Prix. He overtook

teammate, Lewis Hamilton in the first lap and never let go of the lead.

Defending world champion, Sebastian Vettel, came second. Aussie,

mark Webber, finished fourth.

The Adelaide Crows have won the AFL pre-season cup. They defeated

the West Coast Eagles 95 to 61.The crows pulled away in the third

leading by 31 points. The Eagles reduced the margin in the final

quarter but the Crows finished strongly for the win. The regular

season kicks off this weekend.

To swimming, Olympic gold medallist Ian Thorpe has failed to make

the Aussie Olympic team. He was trying to make a comeback at the

Australian Championships in Adelaide. He swam well early on but in

the end was a long way short of qualifying. Thorpe says he won't give

up on competitive swimming.

Swim Star

Reporter: Nathan Bazley

INTRO: Well as we just mentioned lots of big names were on show at

the national swimming championships. But alongside them were

some young up and comers hoping one day to reach the same kind of

level. We caught up with one girl who's hoping to make a big splash in

the sport.

NATHAN BAZLEY, REPORTER: Imagine the dream you've been

working towards for years, all coming down to one jump, one race and

one stretch to the wall. Sound a little intense? Well maybe world class

competitive swimming isn't for you!

Welcome to the Australian Swimming Championships - the one and

only chance some of Australia's brightest stars have to make their

dreams come true at the London Olympics.

It's sink or swim in every sense. But it's not just big names lining up

on the blocks. Some very talented kids are also pulling on the suit.

This is Kimberley, and while she's 15, she's already competing against

swimmers double her age at the Aussie Champs!

KIMBERLEY: Not every swimmer gets to this level so I'm very

thankful to my coaches, everyone who's helped pitch in with my

swimming because it's one of the biggest things I've ever done in my

life.

And just a few hours before I got to meet her, Kimberley had already

hit the pool for her first event - the 50m backstroke.

NATHAN: How did it go?

KIMBERLEY: It went really well actually. I didn't get a personal best

time but I got a very close to it time. I'm so happy I got 32.72, which is

good for me.

Pretty good for most people really. Especially considering she only

has time to hit the pool three times a week, because of school, night

classes, work and a leadership program.

NATHAN: It must be tough balancing all of that stuff, plus a part time

job, plus school work, plus swimming. How do you do it?

KIMBERLEY: It has been a challenge, but I have gotten used to it

now. As soon as I get home from school I do all my homework until I

either have to go to work or go to swimming or go to Japanese.

NATHAN: A lot of swimming training I suppose is just going up and

back and up and back, what do you think about that whole time?

KIMBERLEY: Well usually I lose count of my laps because I'm singing

a song in my head, or I'm thinking about my biology homework and

reciting Japanese in my head. I'm always doing something, so I lose

count of my laps while I'm swimming.

Something Kimberley hasn't lost count of during her swimming

career is the number of her hero's that she's met so far.

KIMBERLEY: I got to meet Ian Thorpe and Geoff Huegill today and it

was the most amazing thing I've ever done in my life!

She even got the photos to prove it!

KIMBERLEY: I got to talk to him about my swimming, how old I am,

explaining to him how many times I train per week and he was just

helping me a lot.

NATHAN: I suppose it's hard when Ian Thorpe gives you advice like

he did today, because he's got such massive feet, he can't really tell

you to grow your feet can he?

KIMBERLEY: No, but I do have big feet myself!

NATHAN: What size?

KIMBERLEY: 11

NATHAN: That's pretty big!

KIMBERLEY: We have our own personal flippers!

Big feet have got to help a lot, but in the end, all that really matters is

who touches the wall first. And if Kimberley's age and talent are

anything to go by, you'll be seeing her touching first more and more in

the future.

Presenter: Good luck to her.

Closer

That's it for the show. You can jump onto our website if you want to

get more info on any of the stories. You can send us your comments

and don't forget to vote in this week's poll. I'll see you next time.