The Magazine of tbe MG I-Type Register Volwne IV 104~ September 1981

ED_lORIAL

More information has come to light over the pa8~ poundew months on cbassi~ numbers and chassis number presentation From Tom BqscarLQo comes ~thiB breakdown of year-by-year I amp YT production

1947 Y0251 to Yf150

1948 Yft51 to I2208- 1949 Y2209 to Y4239 1950 y240 to I6284 1951 I6285 to TI285

I have checked tbis witb our recorUB al)d it appears to fit wi tli all tbe-information we have~ Secondly the front cover of the YT Parts List (reproduced by the New England T Register Ltd sbows the followingdifferent chassis number groups

YfT HHD for Home market Speedometer in MPH YfTFJL LHD for Export Speedometer in KPH YTEIJi HHD for Export Speedometer in MEH YTfEIJiK HHD for Export Speedometer in KPH YTBXLM LHD for Export Speed ometer in MEH YTEX(U) LHD for USA Speedometer in MPH

Up until tbe time I bought a copy of the p~ts List I had assumed tbat all YTs were either YTXXR or YT[EXU Now r know tbat the situation is more complex tban tbis and tbere is even such a tbing as a UK market YT (I tbink Ie bave at least one on tbe Register)

Ive also discovered (by paying closer attention to my YB Parts List) tbe truth about painted v all-chrome headlamp (as regards YBs anyway) The situation was

YB 0251 to YB 1239 bad painted backs (same colour as car) and chrome rims

YE 1240 to YB 1552 had all-chrome headlamps

hope you all liked the photos last time Their reproduction is in the hands of John Sanderson and I think he does a superb jooone which lends a littl e more sonhistication and interest to the magazine ~ There are photosthis montb toot - 0 - 28th August 1981

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Gathering or The FaithfUl - Mk=l

EVer heard ot a tGOpt or wondered what it wa~ I dld~ r knew that GOFs were rallies held in the United States which hundreds of beautifUlly restored T-Type and their owners attended but I didnt know what the initials stood for until recently The Gathering Of The FaithfUl is aptly named for MG~ f ans in the United States exhibit a proround~slncere and devote~ enthusiasm for the marque MG

I was lucky enough this June to be invited by Walter Genther of New York to visit him for a week and attend the ~2nd GOY organised by the New England MGT Register Ltd hich was held in the sWptuous surroundings of the Playboy Great Gorge Resort amp Caun~ Club~McAfeeNew Jersey

For the purposes- of this Y-orien tated report I wilI lea~e aut much mention of the hundreds of beautifnlXy restored TsoPs (and a Z) which attended surfice it to say that if you like ather HGa besides the Y then tbis is for you IttS quite an overwhelming

experience Before we droe down or the GOF from Walts homejust ttnder one hundred miles awayI was shown his beautifUllyresto~d YT which he rebuilt entirely himself from a total wreck and which wan first placein tIle Premier Cla (top prize taking in all the T as well t) at GOF a Collple of years ago There are so few restored YTts flr England that seeing thi~ earwa~ an education Walt can answer most queries on the Tourer~he me ~ cfrawings tor the sides-creens and had them made up an-d he rewired the ea~middot by amalgamating a TC iring diagram Jor the instrument panel with a YA diagram tor the rest o~ the ~

And so to the GOY we drove dawn on the first day or this- raux-day how in WaltS YB tram his home to the Playboy Club The journey took nearly two hours at a-bout 55 mph and the car- behaved perfectly It was loaded with five people (Walts family) and _luggage That evening and the next day mallY cars arrIved and other Y-Type owners we met were Tom Boscarino (who organised th~ GOF)~Mike Ash~R1chard Boudrais Jim Goguen (or Abingdon S~ares Ltd)Hank GirfenMel ReichenbachRichard TrenerCharles Fa1llkner and Le- amp Susan Polgar On the Friday there was a tRegalia Sa-Iemiddot where I acquired three copies of the YT Parts List 1 We als-o met Mike Lewis from near New Orleanswho was hoping to buy a YT and who told us he knew of several more Xs in that area Tom Boscarino revea2ed that he knew of six YT1~ in South Africa and he has alot of inrormation an this particular sub-type AI Moss of CaliforniaHank Giffen and Mike Ash bave insisted that I stop refering to Y~ as the offical designations were Y YB and 11 This 1s true and it is something we men tioned in an early issue of the magazinePohowever I think that most people in the U - would become eonfused at this stage i~ we were to start refering to YA~ as ~Ys~ - so remember p1ea~erYA is just en unofficial designation

The Friday had been cool (55 F)overcast and so~ewhat windy For the main day of the show howeverthe Saturday the temperature climbed back up to its usual mid-eighty figure and I quickly got sunburned as we were outside all day with the cars Hank Giffen and his wife arrived in their brown and beige Y Penelope ear2y in the day and this car was soon confirmed to be the oldest one we know of an the Register (Y 0296) Les and Susan Polgar arrived from Connecticut in Harriet (Green 1949 Y

Y 2677) and stayed a few hours before heading home We held a Y Seminar 1n th e shade of some trees behind our cars at 1230 that dmiddotay This was a very pleasant gathering indeed The topics we covered were

(1) Forma tion of the Os East Coast Chapter of the Register

(ii) Acquisition of parts in England from cars which are being scrappe4 and shipment of parts to Walt in New York for onward distribution We need a trustworthy and enthusiastic member in England to take this on but failing any volunteera yours truly wil1 have a go

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(111) AcquisItion of cars in England for shipment and sale in the USA and Canada A healthy demand for decent examples was exhibited at the show

At the noa market ere parts of Y 3393 (doors in good conditionrear window glass and wQoden windowsurrounds in poor condition) and also those fabulous bolt-on chrome wire wheels were there - reduced to $1~OOO per set of five - I still cant afford them t

Finallywe got hold of a couple of gorgeous bunnies to photograph draped over our cars There We-re many hands suffering from camera shake A memorable weekendthen Where else could you see an English brick attctioned for $25 - it was a rather special one~though

Why cant we have a Y-Type GOF in the UoX Why arent wein the ma1nas enthusiasticZ I have to say this - coming back to England seemed most depresBing I will try not to let this magazinebecome totally American in content over the coming months t

Forthcoming GOFmiddots

30th July to 2nd August 1981 GO] WeBt 81 SpokaneWashington September 1981 GOF Kk=n Virginia Beach- Virginia~ August 1982 GOP West 82 San ta Barbara California-

Por details of the Virginia Beach eventcontact Mike Aah5149 Bellamy Manor DriveVirginia BeachVirginia23464USA A good turn-ant of Ys i~ expected at this event

J GLawson

AUSTRALIAN IMPOR~ PART = First ownersbullbullbull ~

Y 1009 GBArthur Y 1856 Barclay Motors Y 1000 MoECropley Y 1814 RDemley Y 0911 Barcl ay Mo tors Y 1812 ERGlashien Y ~092 Barclay Motors Y 1873 DHWilliams

1091 Capt SJBendall Y 1869 HBSelby- amp Co Y 1065 Les Baddock pty Ltd Y 1937 Barclay Motors Y 1066 Barclay Mo tors Y 1870 Barclay Motors Y 1049 Barclay Motors Y 1935 Barclay Motors Y 1089 BMRome Y 2415 Barelay Mo tors Y 1038 GMMacPherson Y 2458 Barclay Motors Y 1059 KMWilson Y 2805 Barclay Motors Y t063 BWFinigan Y 2837 Barclay Motors-Y 1096 Barclay Motors Y 2804 Barclay Motors Y 1060 Barclay Motors Y 2907 Barclay Motors Y 1051 WHHancock Y 2923 Barclay Motors Y 1056 Barclay Mo tors Y 2926 Barclay Motors Y 1064 Barclay Motors Y 3015 Barclay Motors Y 1036 Barclay Motors Y 3220 Barclay Motors Y 1032 LAlderson Y 3269 Barclay Motors Y 1001 BarcIay Metors Y 3199 Barclay Motors Y 1098 Barclay Motors Y 3235 Barclay- Mo tors Y 1041 WWForsyth Y 3367 Barclay Mo tors Y 1537 Ii Wil kins Y 3577 Barclay Motors Y 1465 HTMoore Y 3790 Barclay Motors Y 1811 Barclay Mo tors Y 3854 A bull WP Hodges

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Gathering or The FaithfUl - Mk=l

EVer heard ot a tGOpt or wondered what it wa~ I dld~ r knew that GOFs were rallies held in the United States which hundreds of beautifUlly restored T-Type and their owners attended but I didnt know what the initials stood for until recently The Gathering Of The FaithfUl is aptly named for MG~ f ans in the United States exhibit a proround~slncere and devote~ enthusiasm for the marque MG

I was lucky enough this June to be invited by Walter Genther of New York to visit him for a week and attend the ~2nd GOY organised by the New England MGT Register Ltd hich was held in the sWptuous surroundings of the Playboy Great Gorge Resort amp Caun~ Club~McAfeeNew Jersey

For the purposes- of this Y-orien tated report I wilI lea~e aut much mention of the hundreds of beautifnlXy restored TsoPs (and a Z) which attended surfice it to say that if you like ather HGa besides the Y then tbis is for you IttS quite an overwhelming

experience Before we droe down or the GOF from Walts homejust ttnder one hundred miles awayI was shown his beautifUllyresto~d YT which he rebuilt entirely himself from a total wreck and which wan first placein tIle Premier Cla (top prize taking in all the T as well t) at GOF a Collple of years ago There are so few restored YTts flr England that seeing thi~ earwa~ an education Walt can answer most queries on the Tourer~he me ~ cfrawings tor the sides-creens and had them made up an-d he rewired the ea~middot by amalgamating a TC iring diagram Jor the instrument panel with a YA diagram tor the rest o~ the ~

And so to the GOY we drove dawn on the first day or this- raux-day how in WaltS YB tram his home to the Playboy Club The journey took nearly two hours at a-bout 55 mph and the car- behaved perfectly It was loaded with five people (Walts family) and _luggage That evening and the next day mallY cars arrIved and other Y-Type owners we met were Tom Boscarino (who organised th~ GOF)~Mike Ash~R1chard Boudrais Jim Goguen (or Abingdon S~ares Ltd)Hank GirfenMel ReichenbachRichard TrenerCharles Fa1llkner and Le- amp Susan Polgar On the Friday there was a tRegalia Sa-Iemiddot where I acquired three copies of the YT Parts List 1 We als-o met Mike Lewis from near New Orleanswho was hoping to buy a YT and who told us he knew of several more Xs in that area Tom Boscarino revea2ed that he knew of six YT1~ in South Africa and he has alot of inrormation an this particular sub-type AI Moss of CaliforniaHank Giffen and Mike Ash bave insisted that I stop refering to Y~ as the offical designations were Y YB and 11 This 1s true and it is something we men tioned in an early issue of the magazinePohowever I think that most people in the U - would become eonfused at this stage i~ we were to start refering to YA~ as ~Ys~ - so remember p1ea~erYA is just en unofficial designation

The Friday had been cool (55 F)overcast and so~ewhat windy For the main day of the show howeverthe Saturday the temperature climbed back up to its usual mid-eighty figure and I quickly got sunburned as we were outside all day with the cars Hank Giffen and his wife arrived in their brown and beige Y Penelope ear2y in the day and this car was soon confirmed to be the oldest one we know of an the Register (Y 0296) Les and Susan Polgar arrived from Connecticut in Harriet (Green 1949 Y

Y 2677) and stayed a few hours before heading home We held a Y Seminar 1n th e shade of some trees behind our cars at 1230 that dmiddotay This was a very pleasant gathering indeed The topics we covered were

(1) Forma tion of the Os East Coast Chapter of the Register

(ii) Acquisition of parts in England from cars which are being scrappe4 and shipment of parts to Walt in New York for onward distribution We need a trustworthy and enthusiastic member in England to take this on but failing any volunteera yours truly wil1 have a go

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(111) AcquisItion of cars in England for shipment and sale in the USA and Canada A healthy demand for decent examples was exhibited at the show

At the noa market ere parts of Y 3393 (doors in good conditionrear window glass and wQoden windowsurrounds in poor condition) and also those fabulous bolt-on chrome wire wheels were there - reduced to $1~OOO per set of five - I still cant afford them t

Finallywe got hold of a couple of gorgeous bunnies to photograph draped over our cars There We-re many hands suffering from camera shake A memorable weekendthen Where else could you see an English brick attctioned for $25 - it was a rather special one~though

Why cant we have a Y-Type GOF in the UoX Why arent wein the ma1nas enthusiasticZ I have to say this - coming back to England seemed most depresBing I will try not to let this magazinebecome totally American in content over the coming months t

Forthcoming GOFmiddots

30th July to 2nd August 1981 GO] WeBt 81 SpokaneWashington September 1981 GOF Kk=n Virginia Beach- Virginia~ August 1982 GOP West 82 San ta Barbara California-

Por details of the Virginia Beach eventcontact Mike Aah5149 Bellamy Manor DriveVirginia BeachVirginia23464USA A good turn-ant of Ys i~ expected at this event

J GLawson

AUSTRALIAN IMPOR~ PART = First ownersbullbullbull ~

Y 1009 GBArthur Y 1856 Barclay Motors Y 1000 MoECropley Y 1814 RDemley Y 0911 Barcl ay Mo tors Y 1812 ERGlashien Y ~092 Barclay Motors Y 1873 DHWilliams

1091 Capt SJBendall Y 1869 HBSelby- amp Co Y 1065 Les Baddock pty Ltd Y 1937 Barclay Motors Y 1066 Barclay Mo tors Y 1870 Barclay Motors Y 1049 Barclay Motors Y 1935 Barclay Motors Y 1089 BMRome Y 2415 Barelay Mo tors Y 1038 GMMacPherson Y 2458 Barclay Motors Y 1059 KMWilson Y 2805 Barclay Motors Y t063 BWFinigan Y 2837 Barclay Motors-Y 1096 Barclay Motors Y 2804 Barclay Motors Y 1060 Barclay Motors Y 2907 Barclay Motors Y 1051 WHHancock Y 2923 Barclay Motors Y 1056 Barclay Mo tors Y 2926 Barclay Motors Y 1064 Barclay Motors Y 3015 Barclay Motors Y 1036 Barclay Motors Y 3220 Barclay Motors Y 1032 LAlderson Y 3269 Barclay Motors Y 1001 BarcIay Metors Y 3199 Barclay Motors Y 1098 Barclay Motors Y 3235 Barclay- Mo tors Y 1041 WWForsyth Y 3367 Barclay Mo tors Y 1537 Ii Wil kins Y 3577 Barclay Motors Y 1465 HTMoore Y 3790 Barclay Motors Y 1811 Barclay Mo tors Y 3854 A bull WP Hodges

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(111) AcquisItion of cars in England for shipment and sale in the USA and Canada A healthy demand for decent examples was exhibited at the show

At the noa market ere parts of Y 3393 (doors in good conditionrear window glass and wQoden windowsurrounds in poor condition) and also those fabulous bolt-on chrome wire wheels were there - reduced to $1~OOO per set of five - I still cant afford them t

Finallywe got hold of a couple of gorgeous bunnies to photograph draped over our cars There We-re many hands suffering from camera shake A memorable weekendthen Where else could you see an English brick attctioned for $25 - it was a rather special one~though

Why cant we have a Y-Type GOF in the UoX Why arent wein the ma1nas enthusiasticZ I have to say this - coming back to England seemed most depresBing I will try not to let this magazinebecome totally American in content over the coming months t

Forthcoming GOFmiddots

30th July to 2nd August 1981 GO] WeBt 81 SpokaneWashington September 1981 GOF Kk=n Virginia Beach- Virginia~ August 1982 GOP West 82 San ta Barbara California-

Por details of the Virginia Beach eventcontact Mike Aah5149 Bellamy Manor DriveVirginia BeachVirginia23464USA A good turn-ant of Ys i~ expected at this event

J GLawson

AUSTRALIAN IMPOR~ PART = First ownersbullbullbull ~

Y 1009 GBArthur Y 1856 Barclay Motors Y 1000 MoECropley Y 1814 RDemley Y 0911 Barcl ay Mo tors Y 1812 ERGlashien Y ~092 Barclay Motors Y 1873 DHWilliams

1091 Capt SJBendall Y 1869 HBSelby- amp Co Y 1065 Les Baddock pty Ltd Y 1937 Barclay Motors Y 1066 Barclay Mo tors Y 1870 Barclay Motors Y 1049 Barclay Motors Y 1935 Barclay Motors Y 1089 BMRome Y 2415 Barelay Mo tors Y 1038 GMMacPherson Y 2458 Barclay Motors Y 1059 KMWilson Y 2805 Barclay Motors Y t063 BWFinigan Y 2837 Barclay Motors-Y 1096 Barclay Motors Y 2804 Barclay Motors Y 1060 Barclay Motors Y 2907 Barclay Motors Y 1051 WHHancock Y 2923 Barclay Motors Y 1056 Barclay Mo tors Y 2926 Barclay Motors Y 1064 Barclay Motors Y 3015 Barclay Motors Y 1036 Barclay Motors Y 3220 Barclay Motors Y 1032 LAlderson Y 3269 Barclay Motors Y 1001 BarcIay Metors Y 3199 Barclay Motors Y 1098 Barclay Motors Y 3235 Barclay- Mo tors Y 1041 WWForsyth Y 3367 Barclay Mo tors Y 1537 Ii Wil kins Y 3577 Barclay Motors Y 1465 HTMoore Y 3790 Barclay Motors Y 1811 Barclay Mo tors Y 3854 A bull WP Hodges

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ILLUSTRATIONS TO ARTICLE ON PAG ES 31 amp 32

The oldest car on the Register Penelope belongs to Hank Giffen (chassis no is Y02 96)

The th ree Y Types which attended the Now Jersey GoF Front to rear

Y0296 Hank Giffon YBI 099 Welter Genther (wearing the

octagon) Y2677 Les amp Su~n Polgar

Harriel (V26n) which is owned by Les 8 Su~n Polgar of Connecticl1t1

Photos by John Lawson

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3853 ERoberla Y 3884 AMarshali Y 3E83 AJWagg Pty Y 3E85 RSWard Y 3931 RS Ward Y 3847 Barclay Motors Y 4304 Barclay Motors Y 4636 Barclay Motors Y 4681 RSWard Y 4689 Barclay Motors YTEIR 461 4 Barclay Motors YTEXR 4222 Barclay Motors YTEXR 4373 Barclay Motors YTEIR 4121 Barclay Motors

Credit Australian T-5eries Association amp DEMiller

AneL so we begin a list of Y Types sold by Ron Wards of Strathfield Sydney First weill cover those cars Bold new and then those which were sold second-band t bullbullbullbull

Chassis lIo Engine No ExtColour IntCUour Reg No Date Sold

Y 0770 XlAGSCn 0524 Grey Red XL 734 9448 Y 0810 XPAGSCXl0574 Grey Green XC 335 20248 Y 0830 XIAGSCX10522 Grey Green IF 446 6348

XPAGSCX10529 Grey Green Xli 801 248 Y 0942 XPAGSCXr0579 Grey Green XI 587 2448 Y 0977 XPAGscnOB02 Grey Green XJ 323 24348 Y 1001 XPAGSCn0774 Grey In 966 17748 Y 1002 XlAGScn0775 Grey Green XJ 028 3348 Y 1007 XPAGSCXl0782 Grey Green XS 352 30448 Y 1036 XlAGS C X10143 Black Beige ZF 3E2 30 1148 Y 1049 XlAGSCxr0897 Black IF 022 29748 Y 1056 XPAGS CX10898 Black Beige YU 216 151048 Y 1060 XPAGSCX10899 Blaclt IE 974 1)748Y 1064 XlAGSCX10873 Black Beige Xl 352 5648 Y 1066 XPAGSCX10879 Black XT 213 Zl548 Y 1089 XlAGSCX10843 Black YH 838 6848 Y r092 XIAGS CX10878 Black Red XO 025 2)44-8Y 1096 XPA(SCXr08)5 Black Beige IT )50 5648 Y 1098 XPAGSCxr0840 Black Red XX 548 18648 Y 1856 XEA(SCX11688 Black Red ZNgt 115 13149 Y 1870 XIAGSCX11624 Hlack ZW12) 21349 Y 1871 XPAGSCXrr644 Black Beige ZS 08B 1O24e Y 1935 XPAGSCX1 1722 Maroon zv- 656 49Y 1937 XPAGSCXn658 Maroon ZY6J7 23)49

Credit Noel Gerdes M GRestorers- Association more next timebullbullbullbull

Magazine EditorMembership SecretaryRegistrar - J GLaws on MerseysideL England

Maga~ine Printing - UKEdition Prontaprint amp JRSanderson USWest Coast Edition The

Worksb~p Manuals (Printed by MGOC) - MJDobby GYorkshireEngland

UKSpares Secretary - ABrler WYorksbireEngland

US West Coast Chapter - Tory Skopecek amp David Miller California9 USA

US Fast Coast Chapter - Wal terLGen therP New York USA

Cover Design - Geof ChenneUJ GLawson 1978 Register Emblem Design - Chris WilIiamsJ GLawson tC) 197B bull t The Classi c Y is published by Skycol Publications amp The Jenni Press

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3853 ERoberla Y 3884 AMarshali Y 3E83 AJWagg Pty Y 3E85 RSWard Y 3931 RS Ward Y 3847 Barclay Motors Y 4304 Barclay Motors Y 4636 Barclay Motors Y 4681 RSWard Y 4689 Barclay Motors YTEIR 461 4 Barclay Motors YTEXR 4222 Barclay Motors YTEXR 4373 Barclay Motors YTEIR 4121 Barclay Motors

Credit Australian T-5eries Association amp DEMiller

AneL so we begin a list of Y Types sold by Ron Wards of Strathfield Sydney First weill cover those cars Bold new and then those which were sold second-band t bullbullbullbull

Chassis lIo Engine No ExtColour IntCUour Reg No Date Sold

Y 0770 XlAGSCn 0524 Grey Red XL 734 9448 Y 0810 XPAGSCXl0574 Grey Green XC 335 20248 Y 0830 XIAGSCX10522 Grey Green IF 446 6348

XPAGSCX10529 Grey Green Xli 801 248 Y 0942 XPAGSCXr0579 Grey Green XI 587 2448 Y 0977 XPAGscnOB02 Grey Green XJ 323 24348 Y 1001 XPAGSCn0774 Grey In 966 17748 Y 1002 XlAGScn0775 Grey Green XJ 028 3348 Y 1007 XPAGSCXl0782 Grey Green XS 352 30448 Y 1036 XlAGS C X10143 Black Beige ZF 3E2 30 1148 Y 1049 XlAGSCxr0897 Black IF 022 29748 Y 1056 XPAGS CX10898 Black Beige YU 216 151048 Y 1060 XPAGSCX10899 Blaclt IE 974 1)748Y 1064 XlAGSCX10873 Black Beige Xl 352 5648 Y 1066 XPAGSCX10879 Black XT 213 Zl548 Y 1089 XlAGSCX10843 Black YH 838 6848 Y r092 XIAGS CX10878 Black Red XO 025 2)44-8Y 1096 XPA(SCXr08)5 Black Beige IT )50 5648 Y 1098 XPAGSCxr0840 Black Red XX 548 18648 Y 1856 XEA(SCX11688 Black Red ZNgt 115 13149 Y 1870 XIAGSCX11624 Hlack ZW12) 21349 Y 1871 XPAGSCXrr644 Black Beige ZS 08B 1O24e Y 1935 XPAGSCX1 1722 Maroon zv- 656 49Y 1937 XPAGSCXn658 Maroon ZY6J7 23)49

Credit Noel Gerdes M GRestorers- Association more next timebullbullbullbull

Magazine EditorMembership SecretaryRegistrar - J GLaws on MerseysideL England

Maga~ine Printing - UKEdition Prontaprint amp JRSanderson USWest Coast Edition The

Worksb~p Manuals (Printed by MGOC) - MJDobby GYorkshireEngland

UKSpares Secretary - ABrler WYorksbireEngland

US West Coast Chapter - Tory Skopecek amp David Miller California9 USA

US Fast Coast Chapter - Wal terLGen therP New York USA

Cover Design - Geof ChenneUJ GLawson 1978 Register Emblem Design - Chris WilIiamsJ GLawson tC) 197B bull t The Classi c Y is published by Skycol Publications amp The Jenni Press

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