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In the Matter Of:
SUPERFUND PUBLIC MEETING
PUBLIC HEARING
July 17, 2012
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PUBLIC MEETING ON THE PROPOSED PLAN FOR OPERABLE UNITS 1, 2 AND 3
SOUTHWEST JEFFERSON COUNTY MINING SUPERFUND SITE JEFFERSON COUNTY, MISSOURI
h e l d a t the J e f f e r s o n County F a i r g r o u n d s 10349 Highway 21
H i l l s b o r o , M i s s o u r i 63050 6:30 p.m.
Reported by: Celena D. Moulton, RPR, CCR, CSR
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MR. GUNN: Welcome to the p u b l i c meeting
f o r the Southwest Jeff e r s o n County Mining Superfund
S i t e .
Y o u ' l l notice there are three proposed
plans that are out here. They're a c t u a l l y i d e n t i c a l
except d i f f e r e n t areas i n the county are included i n
them.
I want to introduce some people who are
here. My name i s Gene Gunn. I'm the Branch Chief of
the Superfund Program i n Kansas C i t y . Most of the s i t e s
are i n my branch. I want to introduce Evan K i f e r from
the Missouri Department of Natural Resources; Art Bush
and Mary Locke f o r the Missouri Senior Services.
From the EPA, there are several of us here:
K e l l y C a t l i n , Regional Counsel; Debbie Crane from Public
A f f a i r s ; Jason Gunter, Project Works Manager from
St. Francois County; Preston Law f o r t h i s s i t e ; and Hoai
Tran, oversight f o r the pr o j e c t .
Sorry. John Smith f o r the Jef f e r s o n County
Health Department i n d i c a t e d that there are free blood
screens a v a i l a b l e .
MR. SMITH: For c h i l d r e n , we ask that you
c a l l our o f f i c e . We have.limited funds. We're going to
have our nurses at one or the other s i t e s . But w e ' l l be
glad to do that. Set up an appointment and come i n f o r
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a blood draw, a lead check.
MR. GUNN: Any p u b l i c o f f i c i a l s that want
to be recognized that we haven't recognized yet?
What we're going to do i s go through a
short presentation. Preston Law, the project manager
from the s i t e , w i l l make that presentation.
I t u s u a l l y works best i f you hold questions
u n t i l we get through that; then w e ' l l answer some of
your questions. Then w e ' l l have an exchange,
question-and-answer session a f t e r the presentation.
So why don't we go ahead and get star t e d ,
Preston?
MR. LAW: When we get to the
question-and-answer portion, when you ask a question,
stand up and say your name so the court reporter can get
i t logged down on who i s saying what and who i s
responding.
So w e ' l l s t a r t the presentation. What Gene
Gunn j u s t said, t h i s i s r e l a t i n g to the Southwest
Jefferson County Mining S i t e , Operable Units 1, 2, 3.
Those are a l l r e s i d e n t i a l u n i t s .
The purpose of the meeting i s to provide
basic background information f o r the s i t e , to give you
our preferred a l t e r n a t i v e f o r the clean-up on the s i t e ,
addressing the mine waste and i t s contaminated s o i l at
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the r e s i d e n t i a l properties and provide a forum to
receive p u b l i c comments from the community.
And i n a d d i t i o n to comments here, you
should have some cards you can write on i f you don't
want to stand up and speak. You can c a l l our o f f i c e s .
And we have contact information f o r Debbie, who w i l l
take those.
Another thing, e a r l y on, I'd l i k e to t a l k
about what t h i s i s . So a proposed plan i s -- i t ' s our
proposed remedy f o r the s i t e , s p e c i f i c a l l y . So there's
three s p e c i f i c ones set up there that's 25, 26 pages
long that goes over the h i s t o r y , r i s k and what we're
proposing to do f o r the clean-up. That's what the plan
i s and that's what we're t a l k i n g about tonight.
So f o r a l i t t l e b i t of s i t e h i s t o r y , mining
a c t i v i t i e s began i n Jef f e r s o n County i n the e a r l y 1800s.
The f i r s t two mines were set up i n 1818. We had some
other mines opening up throughout the 1830s and '40s.
And then we have three smelters i n the
area, as w e l l , that were a c t i v e . Three m i l l i o n pounds
were shipped out of the county. That was an annual
shipment, h i s t o r i c a l l y , making i t a large lead producer
i n the area.
There are several other counties nearby
that also produced large amounts l i k e St. Francois
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County, Madison County, Washington County.
So these are the areas that we're t a l k i n g
about. So where we're at r i g h t here, t h i s i s the
southwest quadrant, which i s why t h i s i s designated
Southwest Jef f e r s o n County Mining S i t e s . So t h i s i s the
h i s t o r i c mines i n Jeffe r s o n County.
We have large mining areas throughout the
state, though, as you can see. T r i - S t a t e i n the
southwest p o r t i o n i s a very large mining area, as w e l l .
And we have superfund s i t e s there.
This document -- I know t h i s i s a hard map
to see, so we p r i n t e d i t o f f and you're free to go look
at i t . This i s where we've done sampling f o r
r e s i d e n t i a l yards so f a r .
We have c l u s t e r s here that have some heavy
contamination, that were areas they have brought i n ,
from mine waste i t s e l f .
The Big River has some contamination i n
fl o o d p l a i n s . Some of that was borrowed out to grow
grass and what-not. Those neighborhoods have been
extensively contaminated. So we've been doing clean-ups
i n those areas f o r several years.
There are several other areas i n the county
that have contamination that w i l l be i n red. I f they're
red, they're above 1,2 00; yellow i f they're above our
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clean-up range here; and green i f they're below 400
parts per m i l l i o n . Out of a l l of these counties, there
i s a spread. It's not just a Jefferson County problem.
The only exclusion i s Herculaneum. It's a
separate s i t e that's got a 1.5 mile exclusion zone.
Now, those properties are taken care of under the
Herculaneum s i t e . So you'll see that on the map, as
well.
Some of the background on the remedial
process, we l i s t i t on the National P r i o r i t y L i s t f i r s t .
It goes through a discovery phase where we identify that
there i s some problem on the s i t e . Then we'll do some
investigation work and we'll come up with a scoring
package.
And then once i t scores, i f i t scores high
enough, then we'll propose i t for l i s t i n g , put out a
notice on that. And after the proposal period, we'll
actually l i s t i t on the s i t e . So this s i t e l i s t e d i n
2009.
After the s i t e i s l i s t e d , we'll start a
remedial investigation, which we've just recently done
here on the s i t e . So what that entails i s co l l e c t i n g
data, going out and doing f i e l d work, sampling yards.
Some people had their yards sampled again to get some
laboratory analysis.
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So we p u l l e d that i n and got the
b i o a v a i l a b i l i t y data that i n d i c a t e s how accessible the
lead i n the yards i s to humans, p a r t i c u l a r l y c h i l d r e n ,
young c h i l d r e n up to seven years o l d . So that was part
of what the study accomplished.
Then once we're done with a l l that, we
develop a document c a l l e d a Remedial I n v e s t i g a t i o n , The
document i s the administrative record i n the De Soto
Public L i b r a r y and i n our EPA Headquarters B u i l d i n g . I f
you want to review those documents, I can give you that
information s p e c i f i c a l l y . I t ' s i n the proposed plan
there, too.
A f t e r that, we do a f e a s i b i l i t y study.
Those are done oftentimes simultaneously, or they're
staggered. We j u s t f i n i s h e d the remedial i n v e s t i g a t i o n
i n May and then completed the study i n June.
We take the RI r e s u l t s and we se l e c t
a l t e r n a t i v e s out of that. So we fi g u r e out what the
r i s k s are and t r y to f i n d some a l t e r n a t i v e s . Do we
trea t i t with chemicals? Do we need to d i g i t out?
Those sorts of things.
We come up with the best a l t e r n a t i v e . So
what a l t e r n a t i v e makes the most sense, i s the best f o r
the community, the health, the environment, things along
those l i n e s .
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We have a no-action a l t e r n a t i v e that we put
i n there. That's i f we do nothing. We take zero
a c t i o n . We always have that i n there to compare so we
can look at other a l t e r n a t i v e s . That's a requirement.
A f t e r that, we develop a proposed plan.
That's where we are r i g h t now. We j u s t developed that
recently. Again, i t ' s an admin i s t r a t i v e record and
there are copies there. That's where we declare what
our preferred a l t e r n a t i v e i s , which one we s e l e c t . We
send i t out to the p u b l i c . So i t ' s been put out to the
pu b l i c i n the state administrative record. I t ' s been
there since J u l y 5th.
There i s normally a one-month period. The
newspaper was a week l a t e i n reporting i t , probably
because of the holiday. You know, i t ' s hard f o r them.
I t was around J u l y 4th, so i t came a week l a t e r . So
we're going to extend i t one week. I t ' s a c t u a l l y J u l y
5th to August 12th. That's what we're going by.
Then we have the response to comments that
w e ' l l develop l a t e r on. So that's a development that
happens i n between the proposed plan. That's taking a l l
your comments and doing a response to each one.
So i f you say, "I don't l i k e the
a l t e r n a t i v e " , we would look at why that i s i n the
comment, and look at the a l t e r n a t i v e and see what, i f
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any, changes need to be taken.
So then we've got the threshold c r i t e r i a
here. So t h i s i s part of the nine c r i t e r i a we use to
make these s e l e c t i o n on the c r i t e r i a . The f i r s t are the
nine c r i t e r i a .
The f i r s t one i s -- the mission i s to the
o v e r a l l p r o t e c t i o n of human health and the environment.
That's always the f i r s t thing we look at when t r y i n g to
sele c t the remedy, i s what i s the most e f f e c t i v e remedy
we have.
Then there's compliance with the ARARs that
we have, state requirements on various numbers of
things: The d i s p o s a l , how we're handling a l t e r n a t i v e s
that we're s e l e c t i n g . So that's the process of that,
f o l l o w i n g a l l permits that we're able to, both
applicable, relevant and appropriate.
Then we have the primary balancing
c r i t e r i a . There's several of these, as you can see.
Long-term effectiveness and permanence. So how
e f f e c t i v e i s i t going to be over a period of 10 years,
20 years, the l i f e t i m e of the s i t e ? How i s that going
to p u l l through?
Reduction of t o x i c i t y , m o b i l i t y or volume.
So i f we can use a treatment method to take care of a
problem, how e f f e c t i v e w i l l that be i n reducing the
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actual m o b i l i t y or the t o x i c i t y of i t . So i t w i l l make
i t l e s s a v a i l a b l e f o r intake to a c h i l d , f o r intake of
lead, that w i l l be a c r i t e r i a .
Short-term e f f e c t i v e n e s s , a l o t of times
that's the l i f e of the project i t s e l f during the
construction phase. I f we create a high r i s k to the
residents, how much of an impact i s that r i s k to the
construction workers themselves. So that's something we
need to take a look at.
Is i t implementable? So are we able to --
for example, can we implement treatment? We give an
example of -- i f we i n j e c t chemicals i n t o the ground, i s
that a v i a b l e solution? Is the study enough to make
that decision? Those are the things we look at there.
And then cost i s always an important
f a c t o r . This i s a fund lead s i t e . The funding i s
provided by the taxpayer. Funding of the s i t e s i s
always something to look at. Modifying c r i t e r i a , these
are a f t e r we kind of develop the proposed plan.
We have the state's acceptance from MDNR
here. We're going to develop a proposed plan. They're
going to agree with a plan or they're going to come up
with comments the same way the community w i l l and take
those proposed plans.
And community acceptance, that's why we're
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here today. We've received some comments over the phone
already. We'll compile a l l of them. We'll compile our
comments here and come up with a response to comments
and a record d e c i s i o n . That may influence the f i n a l
d e c i s i o n .
A f t e r we're done with that, we a c t u a l l y
develop the Record of Decision. That's the f i n a l
d e c i s i o n that records those comments. The f i r s t thing
to do i s prepare the response to comments. Then w e ' l l
write the f i n a l d e c i s i o n based on proposed plans.
And then w e ' l l announce and p u b l i s h that
d e c i s i o n . So that w i l l also be an administrative record
that w i l l be done once we're done with i t . We w i l l have
a f u l l p u b l i c a t i o n once we're done with i t .
A f t e r the de c i s i o n documents f i n a l i z e the
Record of Decision, w e ' l l do a remedial design. For a
project l i k e t h i s , with yards, a l o t of times we have
a d d i t i o n a l sampling of properties. We have a l o t of
properties that need to be sampled. We're continuing
that work today. So remedial design w i l l be an
extension of that sampling.
Also, we've got some yards that are --
they're i n the r i v e r f l o o d p l a i n . There's another f i g u r e
over there that y o u ' l l see that they're very close to
the r i v e r . And we may need some more design work to see
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how we're going to keep from impacting the r i v e r i t s e l f
when we're doing excavation so close. So that w i l l be a
design a c t i v i t y .
Then we have remedial a c t i o n . That's
excavation and disposal remedy. So that's the proposed
remedy.
Afterwards w i l l be fi v e - y e a r reviews. Any
properties that are l e f t that are l i m i t e d use, w e ' l l go
back a f t e r f i v e years, see i f they're s t i l l protected.
I f we're excavating an area, w e ' l l put some p r o t e c t i o n
down to see i f that's s t i l l an e f f e c t i v e measure f o r the
community, i f that's working.
So that's the kind of thing to do i n a
five-year review; also looking at the disposal area and
making sure that s t u f f i s taken care of and making sure
we're p r o t e c t i n g health and environment.
And.after that i s done, we would d e l i s t the
s i t e . That's when we take the s i t e permanently o f f of
the National P r i o r i t y L i s t . And i t w i l l be completely
p r o t e c t i v e of human health and the environment. I t ' s a
long process. There's no s p e c i f i c timeframe f o r the
d e l i s t i n g .
So t h i s s i t e , s p e c i f i c a l l y , t h i s i s what
we're looking at here: We've got s i x operable u n i t s .
1, 2, and 3, which we're dis c u s s i n g today, are
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r e s i d e n t i a l s o i l s . They're div i d e d s p e c i f i c a l l y .
We've got two here: They are Operable Unit
Luebbers and Operable Unit Stewart. Those are people
that t r a n s f e r r e d contaminated m a t e r i a l . They provided
the l i s t and we've gone and checked a l l those homes, so
we s p e c i f i c a l l y know that they belong to that person.
There are more homes i n Operable Unit 1.
We know that material was moved i n people's yards or
i t ' s s i t t i n g i n the r i v e r , but there's no c l e a r
i n d i c a t i o n of where i t came from. So a l l the other
yards lead to there.
Operable Unit 4 i s the r i v e r and f l o o d p l a i n
i t s e l f ; so anything n o n r e s i d e n t i a l that f a l l s i n t o the
r i v e r and f l o o d p l a i n . So farms, f o r example, commercial
operations that may be going on, or ju s t large l o t s of
land that somebody i s l i v i n g on that may not be
categorized as r e s i d e n t i a l , that would be Operable Unit
4.
A d d i t i o n a l property i s the home up to the
acreage surrounding the home. Well, I know a couple of
you guys have maybe 2 0-acre properties, which i s the
acreage around the property. The rest would be
considered n o n r e s i d e n t i a l . I t would be parks, schools,
multi-home dwellings, condos. A l l of that would be
considered r e s i d e n t i a l .
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Operable Unit 5 -- I should step back here.
I t ' s the r i v e r , the f l o o d p l a i n . I t ' s also the r a i l
l i n e s that were b u i l t i n the county out of chat. That
i s something we're going to have to look at. Some of
these r a i l s have been -- they're decommissioned, they're
not running, but they've s t i l l got that chat r i s k .
There's actual mine areas themselves. So
there's a couple p i l e s i n the southwestern quadrant, but
there's lead associated with that. But we're going to
look at that i n the future, too.
But, again, t h i s i s j u s t the r e s i d e n t i a l ,
so that's excluded i n t h i s plan.
We've got groundwater w e l l s . We've got
approximately 75 or 76 contaminated w e l l s , minor lead or
other metals that exceed safe l i m i t s . So those
residents are being provided the opportunity f o r
a l t e r n a t i v e water i f they want i f that contamination
reaches a cap.
Operable Unit 6, that's a mine area.
H i s t o r i c a l l y , that's V a l l e s Mines. I t ' s 4,500 acres.
I t ' s very d i s c r e t e . So i t ' s i t s own un i t that we're
going to be taking care of. But that's not f o r t h i s
proposed plan.
H i s t o r i c a l l y , these are some of the
a c t i v i t i e s that were conducted. MDNR conducted a s i t e
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Study at the V a l l e s Mines. Those are some of the very
e a r l y f i n d i n g s . There was an o l d smelter there with
some contamination around i t . That report i s also
a v a i l a b l e i n the administrative record.
In March of 2007, the EPA conducted a s i t e
screening assessment. There was a c h i l d with elevated
blood lead. So our removal program came i n to take a
look, found contamination i n some of these yards. So we
star t e d a s i t e screening assessment i n 2007.
We st a r t e d the f u l l - o n s o i l screening and
well sampling during the 2007 to 2008 time periods.
That's when we r e a l l y kicked i t o f f and the removal
programs were r e a l l y heavy i n g e t t i n g s t u f f looked at.
Then we decided to take a site-wide
i n v e s t i g a t i o n . So we st a r t e d to look at the e n t i r e
s i t e , which would have been those two neighborhoods. So
we went to a site-wide strategy.
2009, September, we l i s t e d the s i t e on the
NPL through those studies that we talked about a couple
of s l i d e s ago. In A p r i l of 2010, we st a r t e d the
remedial i n v e s t i g a t i o n , f e a s a b i l i t y study. That's 1, 2,
3; and 5 i s not l i s t e d .
The groundwater f e a s i b i l i t y study i s on
hold r i g h t now, and we're waiting on some of those
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June 2010, U.S. F i s h and W i l d l i f e completed
a f l o o d p l a i n and sediment study. We have a group
here -- I know that a couple of people attended those
that reported widespread contamination i n the Big River
and Big River f l o o d p l a i n . That's moved us much fu r t h e r
north.
We're looking at the properties that are
e l i g i b l e f o r sampling that we're going to t r y to get
ahold of. We sent those mailings out l a s t week. We're
planning on s t a r t i n g those w i t h i n three weeks.
May of 2012, the Rl/FSs were completed
i n i t i a l l y . We're done with those. We have some ongoing
studies going on f o r the s i t e s .
USGS, the U.S. Geological Service, has
awarded a grant. They're looking at suspended sediment
flow. So some of these yards are along the f l o o d p l a i n .
We don't have a f u l l grasp on how much lead i s contained
going down the r i v e r . We're going to look at to see how
much lead i s s t i l l there i n the yards a f t e r the study.
We're conducting r i g h t now PRP searches,
p o t e n t i a l responsible party searches, to f i n d out who i s
responsible f o r these clean-ups. They have some names
on there. So, c l e a r l y , there's some idea of who d i d
that.
But the responsible party p o r t i o n i s j u s t
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to know who they are, that they're a v a i l a b l e . There's
always p o t e n t i a l f o r a future cost recovery f o r people
that are transporting t h i s s t u f f . We'll be completing
those i n the f a l l of 2012.
We sta r t e d an e c o l o g i c a l r i s k assessment i n
January of 2 012 f o r Operable Unit 4. That's looking at
the e c o l o g i c a l r i s k . The human health r i s k i s s l a t e d to
begin s h o r t l y . We'll be looking at the human r i s k of
the r i v e r i t s e l f . ^
We're s t i l l sampling properties to t h i s
day. The removal program, w e ' l l s t i l l take people that
need to be sampled. We sampled eight properties l a s t
week f o r people that s a i d that they wanted sampling. So
we're always a v a i l a b l e to do that i f you know anybody or
i f you need your own sample.
During the remedial i n v e s t i g a t i o n , we
completed a human health r i s k assessment saying what the
r i s k of t h i s lead a c t u a l l y i s to human beings; not j u s t
saying i t ' s there, but what r i s k i t imposes. That was
done simultaneously.
That was located at the properties we done
during the remedial i n v e s t i g a t i o n . Part of that was
IVBA sampling, b i o a v a i l a b i l i t y sampling that was done.
It looks at the lead i t s e l f and sees how much of that
can a c t u a l l y get absorbed i n the blood system.
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For example, i f you eat a pure piece of
lead, you probably wouldn't f e e l much of that. But i f
you ground a l l that up i n a form that was oxi d i z e d , i t
makes i t a l o t more bad.
And that's how we found these r i s k s , from
that exposure to the imported mine waste and
contaminated s o i l s . So i t came down the r i v e r ; people
picked i t up i n t h e i r yards.
We determined our clean-up goals. Our
numbers were based on the b i o a v a i l a b i l i t y . That's what
we base our clean-up numbers on.
We develop pre l i m i n a r y remediation goals,
which are concentration l i m i t s to protect human health.
They are lead and arsenic and chromium i n the s i t e . 232
we have b i o a v a i l a b i l i t y data f o r . Four had arsenic that
exceeded our goal. Chromium was on one property and i t
was also associated with lead.
The arsenic was 22 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n ; the
chromium was 2 9 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n ; and the lead was 400
p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n . So, again, those were c o l l o c a t e d
with the lead i n every property I've seen so f a r . We're
going to continue to sample portions of pro p e r t i e s , make
sure that -- i f we do f i n d i t , we can take care i t .
So our remedial a c t i o n o b j e c t i v e s , t h i s i s
what we're t r y i n g to get fi g u r e d out here, f o r
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pro t e c t i n g human health based on those clean-up numbers
that we j u s t saw.
So the number one remedial a c t i o n objective
i s to reduce exposure of young c h i l d r e n , 0 to 84 months,
to lead such that an i n d i v i d u a l c h i l d or group of
similarly-exposed c h i l d r e n have no greater than a
5-percent chance of exceeding a blood lead l e v e l of 10
ug/dl.
And the second p o r t i o n i s reduce the r i s k
of exposure to s o i l s containing arsenic and chromium
such that l e v e l s do not exceed the carcinogenic r i s k of
1 X 10 -4 and a noncancer hazard index of 1.
So that's the carcinogenic r i s k . And those
are the most p r o t e c t i v e values out there, too. So each
one has a carcinogenic r i s k , so we take the most
pr o t e c t i v e values, which was 22 to 29.
So what s i t e r i s k d i d we a c t u a l l y find?
Well, f i r s t of a l l , we've a c t u a l l y found c h i l d r e n
on-site that a c t u a l l y have elevated blood lead. That
blood lead was p a r t i a l l y being a t t r i b u t e d to the
contamination.
We're s t i l l f i n d i n g some. This i s n ' t
something that we found one 10 years ago. We do f i n d
that o c c a s i o n a l l y . We haven't done a wide blood lead
study. Part of the outreach i s we're going to t r y to
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get some more blood lead done.
The damages that are done from lead i n
c h i l d r e n are often n e u r o l o g i c a l damage, and that's
permanent. And once i t happens, i t ' s done. You can't
reverse i t .
So preventing that by reducing the
p r o b a b i l i t y i s why we come up with these numbers and why
we pick that number to reduce the future r i s k ; not j u s t
once we f i n d i t .
And then we have t h i s a d d i t i o n a l r i s k of
the representative of the PRCs that we ta l k e d . And of
the 232, a l l of those were c o l l o c a t i o n s , a very small
number. But there was very small r i s k associated.
Some a d d i t i o n a l s i t e r i s k , groundwater was
found above 15 micrograms, 15 p a r t s - p e r - b i l l i o n . So
that's a r i s k that's there that we're addressing through
removal a c t i o n r i g h t now. We'll come up with a remedial
a l t e r n a t i v e and do a proposed plan f o r that i n the
future.
So the proposal plan that y o u ' l l see, that
includes t h i s background data we're t a l k i n g about, study
r e s u l t s and the p u b l i c comment process. So how can you
comment, other than j u s t being here? By c a l l i n g or
w r i t i n g us.
-Right now we've got three a l t e r n a t i v e s f o r
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these three operable u n i t s . Each one has three
a l t e r n a t i v e s . They're ex a c t l y the same i n each one.
Each of those three have the same a l t e r n a t i v e s
i d e n t i f i e d . We've selected the same a l t e r n a t i v e f o r
each operable u n i t .
In that, i t w i l l e xplain our preferred
a l t e r n a t i v e . So i t w i l l go i n t o d e t a i l on those
c r i t e r i a and why we made the s e l e c t i o n , the RI and the
FS and several other t e c h n i c a l documents that are i n
there.
So these are our proposal a l t e r n a t i v e s .
The f i r s t one i s no actio n . There's no money. Let the
r i s k s t i l l be present i n the county.
The second one i s s o i l excavation, disposal
and replacement up to 12 inches i n r e s i d e n t i a l yards and
24 inches i n garden areas -- gardens root. There's a
l i t t l e more r i s k i n gardens coming i n and rooting -- any
properties that exceed the PRC of 400 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n
for lead.
In a d d i t i o n , we would sample 10 percent.
10 percent of a l l the samples would go to the laboratory
so we can make sure that these chromium and arsenic
r i s k s are s t i l l c o l l o c a t e d .
The t h i r d a l t e r n a t i v e i s also s o i l
excavation, disposal and replacement, but i t ' s up to
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24 inches i n a l l p r o p e r t i e s . So instead of a foot, we'd
go down to two feet i n each property. So i t ' s b a s i c a l l y
the same, i t ' s j u s t a matter of depth d i f f e r e n c e , i s
what we have there.
Our preferred a l t e r n a t i v e i s a l t e r n a t i v e
two. That's excavation of s o i l that are equal or
greater than 400 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n up to 12 inches of
excavation. I f there's anything above 4 00, we're able
to take up to 12 inches, and then the 24 inches of
garden areas I spoke about.
Any area that you guys designate f o r
clean-up that's a garden area, sometimes i t ' s not
obvious to me what i s a garden area, we would do 24-inch
removal i n those places.
At 12 inches of concentration, places that
exceed 1,200 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n , we're going to be
put t i n g a b a r r i e r down. I t ' s t y p i c a l l y an orange,
h i g h l y - v i s i b l e , h ighly-permeability mesh-like
construction fencing, or snow fencing, i f you're more
f a m i l i a r with that. That's what i t looks l i k e .
Drip zones w e ' l l be sampling, as w e l l .
That's a 30-inch area around the house. I f you f i n d
contamination over 400 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n , w e ' l l do a
clean-up only i f an a d d i t i o n a l area of the property i s
contaminated.
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So that i n d i c a t e s sometimes that the house
i t s e l f contains paint that i s leaded that's chipping o f f
and going i n t o the ground. This clean-up i s not f o r
that. This clean-up i s f o r imported mine waste that
came i n . So that would be a s p e c i f i c exclusion, unless
there was contamination found somewhere else on the
property.
A f t e r we're done excavating, i t would be
transported to an EPA-approved disposal f a c i l i t y . We've
been taking i t to Timber Ridge L a n d f i l l . We're s t i l l
evaluating that area. There are other a l t e r n a t i v e s to
be looked at. We may sel e c t one i f there's a cost
savings f o r the clean-up.
And then a f t e r we're done with the t o t a l
area, we've excavated i t , we've disposed of the
contaminated ma t e r i a l , we w i l l replace i t with clean
s o i l . So we w i l l use clean s o i l on t h i s , being l e s s
than 100 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n of lead, Missouri standards
are 260 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n . We're going much lower than
that i n case of any changes to that. The lead numbers
are below that, j u s t to make sure we're being safe.
So we think there's every reason to expect
that we can f i n d that e a s i l y i n the county. We've found
several areas that are lower than 100 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n .
We t y p i c a l l y reseed the property. So a
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driveway would have gravel put back on i t . Grass would
be seeded and we would monitor that over a period of
time.
One of the l a s t portions w i l l be i n the
i n s t i t u t i o n a l controls that w i l l be put i n place on the
property. I f we didn't get a f u l l clean-up or we needed
to get some more information on that property, these are
a l l options. This i s n ' t everything we do on an
i n s t i t u t i o n a l c o n t r o l . I t may be a combination of a
couple of these.
The f i r s t t hing being establishment of a
r e g i s t r y of r e s i d e n t i a l properties that meet some
c r i t e r i a . We keep that w i t h i n the Je f f e r s o n County
Health Department. So we j u s t keep track of that. And
people come i n and we say, "Yeah, that was sampled.
That was good to go."
We have a l o t of p o t e n t i a l buyers that want
information l i k e that. Real estate agents are becoming
i n c r e a s i n g l y aware of the contamination of property and
they want to know whether properties do or do not have
contamination. So a r e g i s t r y l i k e that might be
valuable.
Also r e j e c t i o n . Some people don't want us
to come on t h e i r property. We need to keep track of who
those people are.
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S p e c i f i c p r o p e r t i e s , those where
contamination i s l e f t i n place, which may be in-depth or
may be at the surface, some spots, some p r i z e rock
garden where you say, "Don't get near that", you s t i l l
may have contamination there. That's the kind of
property we need to continue to monitor so we can track
where that contamination i s .
People forget a f t e r a couple of years and
then they s t a r t moving s t u f f a l l over the yard and
creating a bigger hazard.
We may have some County permit options that
allow prescreening f o r lead. So there are a l o t of
people that s e l l materials, s o i l , sod, gravel, a l l sorts
of things. That's how t h i s got st a r t e d i n t h i s county.
So there's some way to prescreen that.
And then another would be through the
County i t s e l f . We're working with the County counsel on
t r y i n g to achieve -- again, e s t a b l i s h a b u i l d e r and
developer education program; how to handle i t i f they
they f i n d i t ; how to sample f o r i t .
We w i l l j u s t be l e t t i n g them know that the
Big River i s hi g h l y contaminated. They need to take a
look at i t . They become l i a b l e f o r moving that, and
that's something that these businesses need to know.
Working with the contamination i s the best
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management p r a c t i c e s f o r both the proj e c t s going on f o r
construction workers and also f o r future workers that
may be working on some of these p r o p e r t i e s . Let them
know i f they f i n d mesh i n a depth, there's contamination
there.
Otherwise, deed r e s t r i c t i o n s may be put
in t o place on some of the properties that s t i l l have
contamination, or they're not allowing us to get on
there. That's another thing.
And then environmental covenants may be put
in t o place on some these places that have contamination.
So we have covenants i n place through the State so they
can say they're aware and they're not going to move that
m a t e r i a l . Again, these are a l l options. None of these
are set yet. Or there may be a combination.
What do we have r i g h t now? Operable Unit
1, we have 800 properties estimated to clean up. We
know about 474, and we estimate that sum t o t a l w i l l be
800 pr o p e r t i e s . We're sampling --we sent access
agreements out to about 500 properties along the
f l o o d p l a i n . We're s t a r t i n g to get feedback on those.
Then there w i l l be some more i n the county.
We're going to focus on the r i v e r , the f l o o d p l a i n .
These other areas that a l l have dots, w e ' l l be doing
those on request. There's been no s p e c i f i c complaint of
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contamination.
Arnold i s very b i g suburban area. We have
no i n t e n t i o n of sampling every area i n Arnold. There's
probably four dots here that are above
400 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n . So we'd be doing that on s i t e s
that we believe have lead on them.
Operable Unit 2 has 16 properties l e f t f o r
remediation. That's not a guess. We have a l i s t . So
we know there's 16 more that we're going to do some kind
of work on above 400 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n .
Operable Unit 3, again, we have a l i s t .
That's 59 prope r t i e s . So 2 and 3 are much smaller, but
we're keeping them separate. This i s an example of an
excavation that's been conducted i n a s i s t e r s i t e i n
St. Francois County.
This i s what an excavation looks l i k e .
I t ' s about a foot deep. This i s afterwards, what the
yard looks l i k e . So we f i l l the yard back with s o i l .
We have some straw and some hydroseed here to protect
i t , l e t the grass grow.
F i n a l l y , that's a very b e a u t i f u l yard.
They don't look l i k e that at the beginning. But t h i s i s
a f t e r a couple of years. And t h i s person i s v i g i l a n t i n
maintaining t h e i r growth.
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i n having some good yards l i k e that. But i t ' s the
r e s p o n s i b i l i t y not only of us to get t h i s s t u f f put i n
place, but the homeowner to take care of that once i t ' s
put i n t o implementation. They have to water i t , and
i t ' s a young yard and i t takes a while to grow. So
that's what we're looking at f o r t h i s .
The comments period i s J u l y 5th to
August 12th, This i s where you can send the comments
to. There's a phone number there. She has an e-mail
address that i s always a c c e s s i b l e . So you can send an
e-mail to her. She sends i t to me immediately, so I ' l l
have them p r e t t y quick.
These are the websites associated with the
p r o j e c t s . That's probably very d i f f i c u l t to read.
Those are i n the handouts. You can go onto that website
and look at any of t h i s s t u f f . And I'm done, so I w i l l
take -- I'm going to leave t h i s r i g h t now.
I'm going to take questions. Can you stand
up and say your name?
MR. SMITH: I t ' s j u s t c l a r i f i c a t i o n on the
date. You say i t changed from August 12 to August 19th?
MR. LAW: The date f o r comment?
MR. SMITH: Yes.
MR. LAW: No, from J u l y 5th.
MR. SMITH: I thought you s a i d i t changed
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because of the holiday.
MR. LAW: We didn't get i t i n t o the paper,
so i t was a week l a t e g e t t i n g i t i n t o the paper. We
wanted to give people an extra week. August 12th,
that's a week past the 5th.
MR. GUNN: Thanks, Preston, f o r the
presentation.
Now we're at the p u b l i c comment po r t i o n of
the meeting, and I'd l i k e to take questions. We'll have
a court reporter that w i l l record the presentation and
w i l l record your questions and w e ' l l t r y to answer i f we
can. I t w i l l be part of the record. I t w i l l be
answered o f f i c i a l l y as part of the record.
But Preston mentioned the record d e c i s i o n
i s the document proposing what we're proposing to do.
And the dec i s i o n , attached to i t i s a response to a l l of
the questions and has an answer associated with those
questions. And that's part of the record and part of
the Record of Decision.
So with that, I would l i k e you to state
your name so the court reporter can get i t and then ask
your questions. So go ahead.
MS. STRAND: My name i s Barb Strand. I
l i v e at 45 Coles Lake. They brought a load of t o p s o i l
i n i n 1999. I t was since tested. I was t o l d i t was
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safe. I now have a three-year-old l i v i n g with me. I
l i v e on the water. What happens when that s t u f f goes
down the h i l l s ?
Some lawns have been removed at Coles Lake.
I was t o l d that several people i n my immediate area
might be contaminated. So, again, what i s happening to
the water? Can I swim i n i t ? Can I f i s h ? What w i l l
happen to my three-year-old granddaughter? She l i k e s to
dig i n the s o i l .
What i f those numbers change; that what
they decide i s okay today i s not okay ten years down the
road? What do I t e l l my three-year-old? I'm not t r y i n g
to be hard.
I do know Bob Luebbers, and I know he d i d
not i n t e n t i o n a l l y bring t a i n t e d s o i l . I've known him
over 3 0 years.
MR. LAW: That was a long question. You
said he d i d not do t h i s i n t e n t i o n a l l y . We don't claim
that he d i d . We haven't taken any ac t i o n against him
other than to n o t i f y him that he hauled contaminated
material and n o t i f i e d him that i n the future he needs to
test i t . You say you --
MS. STRAND: Bob Luebbers used to l i v e
there. He also brought chat to my home i n the driveway.
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been tested, any area you want, we can t e s t that. I ' l l
go through a f t e r the meeting and I ' l l take your
information down, your name, address, number so I can
make sure I have i t .
We're going to be out here f o r three weeks.
For the lake p o r t i o n of the community, you have a lake,
so you probably have several backyards coming up from
the lake.
We haven't done the lakes themselves yet.
That's something that w i l l need to be addressed f o r any
of these neighborhoods that had massive amounts of s o i l
brought i n that may be contaminated. So we can look
in t o those i n the future.
So i f the person's property i s a l l the way
up to the lake, we need to get access from each person.
We can't j u s t go i n t h e i r backyard and s t a r t sampling
without at l e a s t g e t t i n g permission.
As f a r as the community refusing access,
we're going to t r y to get access. We're s t a r t i n g to go
door-to-door. Sometimes face-to-face, rather than
through mail, sometimes works better. We already do
that.
And then what else?
MR. GUNN: Future clean-up l e v e l s .
MR. LAW: That's a very good question. CDC
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does have a proposal that i t ' s lowered than 10
micrograms per d e c i l i t e r . There's a recommendation of 5
micrograms per d e c i l i t e r , which would lower the clean-up
l e v e l . We haven't evaluated that yet. So we haven't
cut that i n h a l f because i t ' s going to a f f e c t the way we
do our modeling.
So t h i s i s a l l done on p r o b a b i l i t y
modeling, so we're s t i l l evaluating that. The EPA has
not come out with an evaluation model f o r that. That's
one reason we're using that 100 p a r t s - p e r - m i l l i o n clean
s o i l .
So by any standard, i t ' s not going to go
that low. So that's near back ground i n Je f f e r s o n
County. So once we approach back ground, we're not
going to clean up back ground i n the whole county.
That's not part of the mission.
I can never promise anything i n the f a r
future. Sometimes clean-up goals j u s t change and I have
no c o n t r o l over that. So I can't make any promises that
they w i l l never change. We are aware of these other
recommendations.
One way we're planning on r e a l l y addressing
i t , though, i s through p u b l i c outreach and education.
We've got programs. We're going to t r y to set up part
of t h i s as p u b l i c outreach. There's a whole p o r t i o n
t. :•• I C .'J
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that we're going to t r y to get set up to do t h i s p u b l i c
outreach.
And that's informing parents how they
should clean t h e i r k i d s ' shoes, blood screening, a l l
these sorts of things to help prevent these exposures.
No lead i s safe i n a c h i l d ' s blood.
We're t r y i n g to make the best reduction we
can using these clean-up goals.
MR. GUNN: You had one more question which
was the m o b i l i t y of t h i s material from one yard to
another and that kind of thing.
We found generally that that's not the
case; that i t doesn't n e c e s s a r i l y -- i f there's good
vegetation, i t ' s p r e t t y well-balanced s o i l . So i f the
s o i l i s not moving i n any b i g way o f f of the property,
there's probably not a l o t of runoff.
On the issue of the blood lead l e v e l
dropping, the model we're using now i s a p r o b a b i l i s t i c
model. We do clean-up based on the quadrants. So the
model c u r r e n t l y protects to an average blood lead l e v e l
of a 5. We go a l i t t l e extra and do 95 percent.
B a s i c a l l y , i t ' s below 10.
And so that's an average. The actual blood
lead l e v e l i s below 5. We're not sure how,we're going
to use that i n our clean-ups yet.
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There's about 16,000 yards that have been
remediated.
John, you had your hand up e a r l i e r ?
MR. SMITH: I t was more on the date. I f I
may ask her: Has your granddaughter been to the
p e d i a t r i c i a n ? Have they done any testing?
MS. STRAND: Yes. So f a r , she's good.
MR. GUNN: And we would recommend that of
anybody. I f you're concerned, have your c h i l d tested,
blood lead t e s t i n g . I t sounds l i k e the county i s ready
to do i t .
Other questions?
MR. HENDRICKS: My name i s Neal Hendricks.
I have a farm. My question i s t h i s : I have a farm, and
my lower farms are i n the lower f l o o d p l a i n . T h e y ' l l be
-- u n t i l t h i s clean-out, a l l those t a i l i n g s are down
r i v e r from me, so there's nothing you can do with that;
r i g h t ?
MR. GUNN: I t ' s a d i f f i c u l t problem. We're
i n St. Francois County.
MR. HENDRICKS: But those t a i l i n g p i l e s are
s t i l l down there.
MR. GUNN: There are some t a i l i n g p i l e s
that are down there. But most of them are federal and
na t i o n a l . We're t r y i n g to wrap up.
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MR. HENDRICKS: The r i v e r i s contaminated;
i s that correct?
MR. GUNN: That i s cor r e c t .
MR. HENDRICKS: So any kids p l a y i n g i n the
sand and gravel could get contaminated; i s that true?
MR. GUNN: That i s correct. I t i s a r i s k
and i t i s one of the future operable u n i t s .
MR. HENDRICKS: But you're not doing
anything with that u n t i l you clean up a l l t h i s t a i l i n g
crap?
MR. GUNN: Yes, s i r .
MR. HENDRICKS: I ' l l be dead by then.
MR. LAW: The r i s k that you were j u s t
t a l k i n g about to these yards, that's a more-limited area
than r e s i d e n t i a l yards.
MR. WARD: My name i s Jim Ward. I l i v e on
Riverview, which i s o f f of Ware Lake i n Brown's Ford.
We j u s t r e c e n t l y moved down and we closed on a property
yet i n March. And we were t o l d by neighbors that
previous owners refused to have the s o i l and the water
tested. And I ju s t want to know how we go about g e t t i n g
that tested.
MR. LAW: You can t e l l me r i g h t a f t e r t h i s
meeting -- I ' l l take your information down and I ' l l
schedule you f o r t e s t i n g . I t ' s a p r e t t y easy process.
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If you have a groundwater w e l l , I ' l l t e s t that. I'm
happy to do that.
MR. GUNN: Any other questions?
MR. EHLEN: My name i s Chris Ehlen. I l i v e
on A l b e r t Road i n De Soto. And, you know, you mentioned
about -- or the other guy about sand and gravel
contamination.
I have three c h i l d r e n that l i v e with me who
are on the r i v e r . And, you know, i t ' s common p r a c t i c e ,
we play down at the r i v e r . And I have a rather large
sand and a gravel bar upwards of two acres. And
that's -- you know, we do a l o t of hanging out there.
And 90 percent of my property i s i n the f l o o d p l a i n .
So you mentioned -- I t a l k e d to you on the
phone e a r l i e r today and you had mentioned how t h i s focus
i s only one acre around the house f o r t h i s i n i t i a l
clean-up. But greater than 50 percent of the clean-up
where c h i l d r e n play on the property i s not i n that area.
So i s that a s p e c i a l s i t u a t i o n that you
consider, or i s that part of a future thing?
MR, LAW: Yes, So i f you have areas that
are outside the p r o v i s i o n a l acreage, w e ' l l s t i l l take a
look at them, I've seen that i n several properties
along the f l o o d p l a i n , where the house i s more than an
acre away and there's play equipment at the bottom of
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a -- there's a rope that kids swing i n t o the r i v e r ,
things l i k e that. We'll d e f i n i t e l y take a look. Those
are some of the highest p r i o r i t y areas we have.
The clean-up strategy that close to the
r i v e r , however, we're going to have to fi g u r e out how to
do those clean-ups by not crea t i n g more hazard by
erosion. So i t w i l l be a strategy that we're going to
implement during the design phase. But we're happy to
sample i t .
I f there's a gravel bar out by the r i v e r
close to your property, we can probably take samples of
that, too.
I don't want to give you the impression
that every gravel bar i s super-contaminated. Some are
f i n e . But we need to take each one as i t comes and
sample i t . I'd be happy to go out and sample your
gravel bar. I f i t ' s highly-contaminated, then w e ' l l
s t a r t t a l k i n g about a strategy.
MR. GUNN: Primary route of exposure i s
ingestion. So clean hands and whatnot.
MR. EHLEN: Yeah. We already do that now
because we're aware of i t .
MR. GUNN: And then blood lead t e s t i n g
would be another option.
MR. LAW: Are there any other questions?
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(The meeting was adjourned at 7:26
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acreage
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action 30:19
actual 33 :23
address 31: 3
addressed 31 : 10
addressing
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adj ourned 38 : 3
affect 32 : 5
ahead 29 : 22
Albert 36 : 5
amounts 31 : 11
approach 32 : 14
area 30:5, 25 31:1 35 : 14
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case 33:13
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child's 33 :6
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people 29:4 30:5
pe r c e n t 33 : 21 36 : 13,17
p e r m i s s i o n 31 : 17
person
31 : 15
person's
31 : 14
phase 37:8
phone 36 : 15
p i l e s 34 :21,23
p l a n n i n g
32 :22
p l a y 36:10,18, 25
p l a y i n g 35:4
p o r t i o n
29:8 31:6 32 : 25
p r a c t i c e 36 : 9
prev e n t 33 : 5
p r e v i o u s
35 :20
Primary 37 :19
p r i o r i t y 37 : 3
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p r o b a b i l i t y 32 : 7
problem
34 :19
pr o c e s s 35 :25
programs 32 :24
promise
32 :17
promises 32 : 19
p r o p e r t i e s
36 :23
p r o p e r t y 31 : 14 33 : 15 35 : 18 36:13,18 37 : 11
p r o p o s a l 32 :1
p r e s e n t a t i o n p r o p o s i n g
29:7,10 29:15
Preston 29:6,14
protects 33 : 20
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p u b l i c 29 : 8
32:23,25 33 : 1
quadrants 33 : 19
q u e s t i o n 30 : 17 31:25
33 : 9 34 : 14
q u e s t i o n s 29:9,11, 17,18,22 34 : 12
36 : 3 37 : 25
ready 34 : 10
reason
32 : 10
r e c e n t l y 35 : 18
recommend 34 : 8
r e d u c t i o n 33 : 7
r e f u s e d 35 : 20
r e f u s i n g 31 : 18
remediated 34 : 2
removed 30:4
r e p o r t e r 29:10,21
r e s i d e n t i a l
35 : 15
response 29 : 16
r i s k 13
35:6,
r i v e r 34 : 17 35 : 1 36:9,10 37:1,5,10
R i v e r v i e w
35 : 17
road 30:12
36 : 5
rope 3 7:1
r o u t e 37 : 19
r u n o f f 33 : 16
recommendation 32:2
recommendations-32:21
r e c o r d 29:10,11, 12,13,14, 18, 19
s a f e 30:1 33 :6
sample 37:9,16
samples 37 :11
sampling
31:16
sand 35:5 36 :6,11
schedule 35:25
s c r e e n i n g 33:4
s e t 32:24
33 :1
shoes 33:4
s i r 35:11
s i t u a t i o n 36 :19
SMITH 34:4
s o i l 30:9, 15 32:11 33:14,15 35:20
s o r t s 33:5
Soto 36:5
sounds 34 : 10
s p e c i a l
36 :19
St 34:20
s t a n d a r d 32 : 12
s t a r t
31:16 37 : 18
s t a r t i n g
31: 19
s t a t e 29:20
t h i n g s 33:5 37:2
t h r e e - y e a r - o 30:1,8,12
today 30 : 11
super-contciminate^' "'"̂ t o l d 29:25
30:5 35 : 19
S t r a n d 30 : 23 34 : 7
S t r a t e g y 37:4,7,18
S t u f f 30:2
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37 : 14
swim 3 0:7
swing 37:1
t a i l i n g 34:21,23
35 : 9
t a i l i n g s 34 : 16
t a i n t e d
30 : 15
t a l k e d
36 : 14
t a l k i n g 35 : 14 37 : 18
te n 30:11
t e s t 30:22 36 : 1
t e s t e d 29 : 25 31:1 34:9 35 : 21,22
t e s t i n g
34:6,10 35 : 25 37 : 23
t h i n g
33 : 11 36 : 20
t o p s o i l 29 :24
t r u e 35:5
U
u n i t s 35:7
upwards
36 :11
v e g e t a t i o n 33 :14
W
wanted 29:4
Ward
Ware
35 : 16
35 : 17
water
30:2,7
35 : 20
week 29:3,
4,5
weeks 31:5
w e l l -balancec^
33 :14
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works
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wrap 34:25
y a r d 33:10
yards 34:1 35:14,15
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