TTY SIEMENS INTARFACE

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I found the following pinout on the forum:http://www.plctalk.net/qanda/showthread.php?t=3700

-----!"! unit is upright:starting upper left pin as #$ %not la&elled using con'ention(opposite side is #)* ke+ is on right side of connector.

$-,, in erial-"nd3-1 'olts2-4 for card1-5 for card)-,, out , erial

6ou will need ,,-83 con'erter %ie 940( powered &+ pin 3 of !"!. ;aud rate is ow can +ou connect !"!B with a @5? and follow the links...

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ppatcher imple Cser

>i to all

Is there a schematic for this ca&le?Dhere can I find the logoB connector for the ca&le?>as an+one made this ca&le?

,hank +ou

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4ctuall+ I found schematic for this ca&le.@ins are* like Eick sed* &ut $0deg rotated.%it depends* where is +our pin nr. $(!n this schematic i tFs lower right. 943 is

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powered from ;< %@5(* !"! and @5 are opticall+ isolated with optrons* afteroptrons are in'erters and !"! side of the schematic is powered from !"!.5an I upload the schematic somewhere?

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Heaimple Cser

lo Crmas*

If u email the schematic* I will put it online and spread it accross the whole wide

worldBmail me : HeaJeurope.com

thKea

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quote:5an I upload the schematic somewhere?

6es* +ou can alwa+s send new pinouts information and schematic toinfoJtechnick.net

,he following is the schematic sent &+ Crmas:

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ppatcher imple Cser

>i to all*

I ha'enLt understood the pinout of ogoB iemens ca&le.ILll send +ou a picture &+ e-mail in infoJtechnick.net* in order to understand m+ quesstion.Dhich is the pinout?,hank +ou

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$-,, in erial-"nd3-1 'olts2-4 for card1-5 for card)-,, out , erial

Eote also that the order of the pins on the schematic is relati'e to the ca&leconnector. ,he connector on the ogo is specular to this:

!n the iemens ogo connector:

M$N MN M3NM)N M1N M2N

!n the ca&le connector:

M3N MN M$NM2N M1N M)N

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ppatcher imple Cser

,hank +ou Eick for +our repl+.

$.>a'e +ou made this ca&le according to the schematic posted?.Dh+ the pin:"nd and the pin3:1 Oolts on the iemens ca&le connector not used?

;est egards

007-03-30 07:0a'e +ou made this ca&le according to the schematic posted?

Eo* I ha'enLt.

8 . Dh+ the pin:"nd and the pin3:1 Oolts on the iemens ca&le connector notused?

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;ecause the circuit on the ca&le is alread+ powered from the serial connector.

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good morning* first of all thanks for tha schematic circuit.

I donLt speak 'er+ well nglish &ut I will tr+ to do it.

I done the @5; for this circuit &ut It doesnLt work. I donLt know if is a wrongconnection in the logo* parameters %like &aud rate* e'en* num&er of &its*...( inwindows p or another thing.

,he steps I do to connet are the following:$.- 5onnect ogo to -3 throught the circuit ,,-3..- tart ogo 5omfort in the computer 3.- ,urn on the ogo2.- ,r+ to find the ogo &+ ogo 5omfort--8 It canLt find itBB :-%

5an an+one help me what ILm doing wrong?

If an+ in the forum want this pc& to post in the forum donLt deshiderate talk to me.

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,he logo ca&le @5; drawing from logrodiego was added on the download section ofthis site.

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>i* I finished the pcd and put all the component in the &oard.

Dhen I check the signals* I see that for pin 2 and 7 %;


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download section. ,hat is &ecause those files and images ha'e the pins num&eredaccording to con'ention. o* again* if we look at the !"! in upright position thepins are num&ered:

|6|1|

|5|2|

|4|3|

o the pin functions* using the standard num&ering are:

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4nd now the schematic makes senseB

4&out the question of the 943 power +ou can see that a the 'oltage is reducedto 1.$O &+ what seems to &e a enner diode %I donLt understand that s+m&ol(*howe'er I donLt see something that limits the current drained &+ the enner. 9a+&e a'oltage regulator can work &etter? I donLt know.

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IL'e tried with and without opto-couplers with no success. 9a+&e is &ecause ILmusing a C;-83 dongle.

9a+&e I9E has updated the port or there is need to pull up or down 4 or

5 in order to make the !"! detect the serial ca&le and enter in !"!-8@5mode.

ILm tr+ing with a )$ 01-$900-0;41 mostl+ known as a !"!B $/2 5.

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- 4sk the status of communication &etween @5 - !"!B @5

- 4sk the status of the @5 %,he @5 responds CE/,!@ status(

- Aorcing the status of the @5 to CE mode.

- Aorcing the status of the @5 to ,!@ mode.

- 4sk the current 'alues %in real-time( of all channels of the @5:

o 2 digital inputs

o $) digital outputs

o analog inputs

o analog outputs

o 2 digital marks

o ) analog marks

o 2 cursors

,he application de'eloped in a&OID performs the main function of communicate the esktop / aptop with @5 !"!B %,hat is to sa+ link Eational Instruments withiemens ... Ha Ha(. ,he software performs the following functions:

- 9onitors and displa+s all channels of the !"!B

- 5hoose the communication port.

- ,he user can sa'e in a file all the data* each configura&le period.

I ha'e made man+ tests with different logic modules* and it has not gi'en an+ pro&lems.

In the image attached* I show +ou some of the topologies that can &e implemented knowing this protocol of communication. I ask +ou to spread this to engineers/technicians

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I've also been working on this

and I'm sharing knowledge I've

adquired and the source code of

the VI. It's not finished and it's

not commercial. I'm just willing

to share something useful.

This program communicates

with Logo! Tested with th

generation" former versions

ma# not work$ and retrieve the

status of the inputs" outputs%

It&s just an outline of what I

think it should be. I eplainever#thing I&ve done so an#one

can use it or create other

programs.

It uses LabView (.) and the.*+T librar#" I&m sorr# if this

bothers someone but it was the

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easiest wa# for me to establish the serial connection. ,o #ou will need the .*+T framework to make it works" or improve the program using

built-in LabView libraries.

The communication with Logo! is based on ,/0/ but it&s not revealed. 1ere #ou have some of the protocol configuration and control words that

I&ve learned and how I have interpreted them.

2audate 3)44. 5arit#64. 7atabits6(. ,topbits6/. The 89n:89ff 1andshake seems to work quite fine.

;ll control words and answers are written in 1eadecimal code. *o terminator is needed.

$ ;nswer Logo$

,tatus=$ /? ,tatus 9@ $ 4) 40 /? AA

Bode=$ CC ? ? ;; ---Dif ,T95$ 4) A/

if E*$ 4) 4?

Fo to ,top Bode$ CC ?? ?? ;; ---D9@$ 4)

Fo to un Bode$ CC ?( ?( ;; --D 9@$ 4)

ead all status$ CC ?0 ?0 44 ;; --D 3 b#tes length packet$ 4) CC ?? ?? A; 7) 44 ?3 /4 44 44 44 44 44 44 44 %.. ;;

Ghere b#te 0A represents the status of the digital inputs" b#te 0( is the status of the digital outputs and b#te AC is the status of the cursors. 2ut

there is much more like analog inputs" analog outputs and marks both digital and analog$ that I haven&t identified.

The cable E,2 version$ create a virtual >9B 59T in order to use the ,/0/ protocol. It uses a )pin connector but I haven&t been able toidentif# the pins. The# use a Teas Instruments chip 1;?A ;@ FA but I couldn&t find an# information about it. I believe that the Logo! itself

power the chip on the cable with HCV bottom left pin$ and F*7 is middle left pin so it left A pins for T8" 8" T, and 7T but tr#ing to

identif# the pins was when m# Logo! died. ,o be careful.

1ope #ou find it useful and if an#thing is wrong or #ou learn something more" please post it.

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,hanks for sharing ....

I send +ou some interesting items:

- ,he @5 data frame depends on the 'ersions of the @5

"eneration 2 and 1 mistra not send the data frame.

,he "eneration ) sends a data frame larger.

,he generation 7 mmmm. I do not know. iemens has not +et released it to atin 4merica.

- Dith respect to the data ca&le @5-@5. ,his link ma+ help +ou.

iemens !"! @5 ca&le pinout

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6ou ha'e done an ecellent Ho& gongratulations.6ou would like to share with all of us +our knoweldge of how +ou create this &+ posting +our Oi code?,hanks
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