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UNITED STA'l'U ENVIRONM!MTAL PJI:OT!CTION ACENCY

PROC!!DINGI AT PUBLIC H!AIHNG 15 IN Rl1

• PROPOS!D PLAN FOR THE PICILLO P'ARM * SUPERFUND SIT!

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10 Western coventry School

11 4511 Plat River Road ., Coventry, Rhode I• land

12 July 13, 199J n7: JO P.M. = " AUQ.U: RICHARD C . BOYNTON, HEARING OFFICER = 14 ANNA KRASKO, PROJECT MANAGER

LEO KAY, COMMUNITY RELATIONS COORDINATOR = 15

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2J 115 PHENIX AVENUE CRANSTON, RHODE ISLAND 02920

401/946-5!500

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MIL BOYNTON: It everybody h ready,

ay naae is Richard Boynton, Chie f of the Rhode Island

Superfund section of EPA's Reqion I los ton office,

and I have su pervisory responsibility for the

i•ph•entation of EPA ' s Juperfund proqraa a nd

hearinq officer tor toni9ht's hearinliJ. Also present

toniqht are Anna Krasko, the EPA project manaqer for

the Picillo site, and in the fro nt row is Ja11es Ball,

10 the State project 11a naqer fo r the Picillo site, and

11 Warren Angell, the State OEM supervisor for the site. ~-12 The purpoae of this hearing tonight is to accept n = " for11al oral comments on the Picillo Superfund Site = Remedial Investigation and Feasibility Study and ca

1 !5 EPA ' • proposed plan fo r addressing contamination at

16 the site. Since this h a hearing, we will not be

17 responding to comments or questions tonight, but will

18 respond to them attar the close of the comment period

1 9 in a formal document called the Responsiveness Study,

20 which will become part of the administrative record

21 for the site . EPA conducted a public information

22 hearing on the proposed plan Wednesday, Ju ne 29,

23 199), at this location in which we presente d

24 information concerning the proposed plan a nd

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raapondad to quau.ione. The public co•••nt period

Thurec!ay, July 24, lttl.

Now, I'd like to daecribe for you the foraat for

overview of the propoaed. plan. rollowinq Anna'•

praaantation, we'll accept any oral co•••nta you •ay

wiah to •aka for the record. Thoae or you whhi ng to

com•ent ahould have already indicatad a daaire to do

10 ao by tilling out the index card• available at the .,11 front door aa yuu calla in. Alae available, it you -12 don't already have one, are copi•• or the propoaed n ll plan. It you have not completed a card and whh to = = 14 11ake a comment, please complete one and/or during the = 15 or the hearing. We need theae carda to make

16 aura that we qat your na11e and affiliation co rrect

17 for the record.

11 I will call on those wishing to maka a comme nt

19 in the orc!er or which you aigned up to apeak , and

20 when called on, I'd aak you that coma up to the rront

21 of the room and atate your nama and addr••• and/or

22 your artiliation ao that our reporter can record your

23 and addraaa tor the record.

24 Please limit your oral comments to about 15

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ainutea. If your preeentation will take lonqer than

15 ainutes, I'd ask you that you au•aarize the

iaportant po inte you whh to •ake thh eveninq and

then provide IPA with a copy of the full text of your

your co11aents to assist us in clarifyinq your

10 After all the coament• have been heard, I will

11 close the for11al hearinq. If you wieh to aub•it

written co•menta, they -..uat be postllut.rkad no later

1l than July 29, 1993 and 11ailed to our o!!ice in

Beaton. The addr••• can be found on Paqe J of the

15 propoead plan, and also we've written it up hers in

16 the front of the room on the eaael.

17 At the conclusion of ths hearing, you co uld aae

11 any of the EPA. raprasantativaa hare tonight it you

19 have any questions on process tor making writte n

20 co11menta. All the oral comment• will ba received

21 toniqht, and tho•• written comment• received durinq

22 the coa•ent period will be addreaaed in

23 Reaponaivanesa Study and become part of the

24 ad11iniatrative record for the aita.

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The Reaponaiveneaa Study will be included with a

dechion docu•ent called the Jtacord of Daci.ton that

!PA prepare• at the conclt... ion of the coa•ent.

Do we have any queationa about the conduc t of

the proceedin9 before we begin? All riqht. It

don't have any questions then, Anna will now give a

brief overview of the proposed plan for the Picillo

rara aite.

10 MS. KRASKO: Thank you, Dick. Aa Dick

11 juat aentioned, laat Month !PA announced the proposed

12 chan-up plan for the Picillo Farm Superfund alta.

13 In ita plan, EPA evaluated a range of clean -up

options ranging from no action to various degrees ot

1!5 treatment for the ao il and groundwater. And EPA

16 selected a preferred alternative to clea n up the

17 remaining aoil and groundwater or the site.

18 EPA propose• to clean up t he eoil co ntamination

19 with both volatile organic and semi-volatile organic

20 contaminants using a thermally-enhanced soil vapor

:n extraction. With this technology, heated air would

22 be pumped through contaminated aoil to volatilize the

23 contaminants . The volatilized contaminants would

24 then be thermally destroyed in the unit called

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catalytic oxidation ayataa. The ayatea would convert

t••••• into aoatly water and carbon dioxide. In

of oft .. alta.

EPA' • propos ad plan a lao calh for the pu•pinq

qroundwatar will ba extracted from tha ground and

treated by aithar ultraviolet oxidation or air

10 stripping. Carbon adsorption would ba uaad

11 polhhinq atap. Groundwater at tha fringes of the -a-12 contaainatad plume would ba allowed to naturall y n = lJ attenuata. = Tha p r oposed clea nup ia estimated to coa t ca

15 approximately $16 million. The a oil h eathatad to

16 ba claanad up i n ai x yaara, a nd tha grou ndwater

17 treatment h expected to taka approximately 20

18 yaara.

19 Thank you,

20 MR. BOYNTON: Thank you, Anna. Mow,

21 I'd lika to begin accepting oral comment• . Fir•t,

22 I 1 d 1 ike to otter the State an opportunity to make

23 comments !or the record, and speaking !or the State

24 would be Jam•• Ball, the State project ottica r .

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Mit. BALL: My naae is Ja11ea Jall. I'a

a senior enC)inaer with the

the intoraatlon available at this the, the

Department personnel have conducted a thorough

review ot the Remedial InveatiCjlation and F'eaalbility

10 Study, well aa other technical documents

11 9anerated, including the proposed plan.

12 A.a a result or this review, we have generated

13 COIIIIIanta and concerns dealing with continued

14 moni t oring and additional aampling locations. We'll

1 !5 be providing a written comments latter to the

16 Environmental Protection Agency during thh comme nt

17 pe r iod that includes all ot our concerns in

18 detail. I will only outline our main concern• t h is

19 avaninq.

20 Comment Number 1: Both the Department ot

21 Environmental Management and the Environmental

22 Protection Agency are aware ot the public'• concern

23 with reaidential well monitoring within a halt mile

ot the aite. To addresa this iaaue, it should be

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atated in the Record of Deciaion that reaidential

well aonitorinq will be included in the re•edy and

will be continued until ao11e ti11e certain in the

Environaental Protection Aqancy provide a technical

•e•orandua that raCOIIIftlanda a frequency for

10 raaidantial wall 111onitoring that ia protective of

11 ""C'-Co111mant Nu11bar 3 : oue to the hct that the n 13

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delineation of the plu11a haa bean extrapolated

area of the unnamed awamp, it may be neceaaary

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1!5 the !nviron111ental Protection Agency to evalua te the

16 option of extending the aamplinq locationa a nd

17 aonitorin9 wall location• to nora concluaiva ly

11 dalineate the extent of co nta11ination . Thia concern

19 haa alway• been axpreaaed by citizens of thia area.

20 comment Number 4: c urrently the propoaad plan

21 calla for deep bedrock walla, aentinel we ll a , to act

22 early warninq aya te111 ahould con ta111ination

23 travel in the deep bedrock aquifer i n a n aaate rly

:u direction . The St a t e a trongly c oncu r • with thia

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propoaal. However, aa the citizens of this a rea have

ewpraaaed concern fer conta•ination potentially

aentinel well ayatea to the west of the alta.

Although the DepartMent of Environmental

expedited reMedy

10 ahould be addreaaad in the propo..d plan prior to

11 finalization.

12 That concludaa what we c onaider to be our 11ajor

13 concarna . Aa I have previously menti oned, we will be

14 providlnq the Environmental Proj ection Aqe ncy with a

1!5 detailed comme nt latter. Copha of thi a h ttar will

16 alae be forward e d to the appropr iate loca l

17 repra aantat ivaa a nd wrill alae be e ntered into the

18 adJiinhtrative record. Thank you .

HR. BOYNTON: Thank s, Jim . Next I'd

20 like to give Ci ndy f'a qan , the Cove ntry Conserva tion

21 Commission Chairman, an opportunity to maka a

22 sta t ement.

23 MS. FAGAN: The statement that I waa

24 goinq to make ou r OEM haa already made. I did want

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to •ake eure that the well• in the area and

throu;hout the whole 20 yean that it take• for the

well.

MR, BOYNTON: Thank you.

MS, FAGAN: Thank you.

10 MR. BOYNTON: Naxt I'd like to uk .,11 Bob Haviland ot tha Rhode Iahnd Dapartmant ot -12 Health, Divhion or Drinking watar Quality. He aaked n

to make a atatemant. = " = ca14 MR. HAVILAND: My nama ia Dave

15 Haviland. I'm with tha Rhoda Island Department ot

16 Haalth Division of Drinking: Wa t ar Quality. Tha

11 following: commanta ara in raaponaa to the propoaad

18 claan-up plan tor the Picillo Farm Superfund Site.

l!'i Tha plan tor continued monitoring of raaidantial

20 drinking watar walla, apacitically thoaa walla within

21 a halt mila radiua of tha Picillo Farm, ahould ba

22 includad in tha Record of Dacision. Proviaiona tor

23 tha moni t oring ot tha axiating homaa and naw

24 davalopmant• ahould be included in tha plan.

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It should be stated in the Record ot Dechion

that the •onitorinq ot residenthl wells within •

halt .tle radius ot the dhpoaal area will be funded

All 111onitorin9 ot private drinkinq water welh,

State of Rhode Island, •hould be coordinated with the

Drinkinq Water Quality.

10 MR. BOYNTON: Thank you, Bob. Next

11 ie Crystal Martin. Do you wis h to 11ake a CO!IIIIIent

12 tor the record?

1 3 MS. MARTIN: No, I have no comment ,

14 MR. BOYNTON: Okay. Thank you,

1 5 Wou ld Virginia Soucy like to make comment• tor the

16 record?

17 MS. SOUCY: Not at thh time.

18 MR. BOYNTON : Not at this time,

19 okay. Robert Guastinl?

20 MR, GUASTHU: Guastini.

21 MR. BOYNTON: G-U-A-5-T-I-N-I.

22 MR. GUASTINI: That'• correct.

23 MR. BOYNTON: Robert P., Greenville,

l4 Rhode Island.

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MR. GUASTINI: Greene, not Grunvillo~2 MR. BOYNTON: Greene, Rhode

Excuse 11'18.

MR. GUASTINI:

that I addressed to Anna on behalt of my own personal

concerns and also the members of SOW. That 'a Save

our Water for the record. And I've got. about tour

points I \olan t to cove r here, and I will maybe

aumaarh• a litth bit. But tirat o! all, the

10 uaponae time of JO daya allowed by EPA h

11 unreasonable. Thh study took two years by EPA or

12 nearly two years by EPA, aaaociatea and contrac tors .

13 There' a not near enough time for any technical review

14 ot thia proposa l !or a lay parson, or in my opinion,

1!5 it waa not commu ni ca ted vary well to the State of

Ui Rhoda Island loca l au thorities, a nd that needs to be

17 evaluated . So, therefore, any decision as to whether

18 thh h a viable plan, I think we just have to si t

19 back a nd wait, a nd that will leave the door o pen

20 obviously, and we 'll see how the cleanup pr ogresses.

21 So, I don 't think we can pass judgment ot

22 whether it's a good plan, or at least I can ' t,

2J bad plan because simply we haven ' t had the

24 opportunity to review it or to bring in any expertise

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in to do that. And I know that there was a phone

don't recall who that waa, and asked if I 'aiOUld

waa concerned about it, it I wanted to do the

axtanalon, and what I aaid at that point no, I

did not want to behbor it; wa •va got. to get on the

act here; within the future, I think there should ba

consideration by EPA .

Thera waa no me nti on of surface water clea nup in

10 thia proposal. Eve rything that I could ••• ia rea lly

11 aimed at looking at U1a c leanup of surface -a-12 groundwater. I don't really to thia date know n = 13 of whe r e we s t a nd with surface water problema other = 14 than the PCBS laying on t op of the soil down there. ca 15 so, I would like t o know it a ny action is goi ng to be

16 taken, o r if it's baing addressed as part o f the

17 cleanup.

18 At the i n itial o nset ot the c leanup ot the

19 Picillo dump, which was around 1980 and therea bouts,

20 by EPA and the State, and there was a l o t ot

21 commitments made to residents a round the area

22 concerning drinking wells withi n a halt mile ndius

23 ot the site. That commitme nt, both by EPA, the

2 4 Rhode Isla nd OEM, the Rhod e Island He alth, a nd the

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outht to continua on with thh, and I think the

vood pereon fro• the Town aaid the aa11e thing tro•

the environ•antal, but the kay aix months, okay?

And, and the reaaon I '• bringing thia up is that

because at that ti111a that was felt to bring

peace ot •ind to the people that lived in that

vicinity. Now, we've lost that peace ot mind, it you

10 will, okay? And 111ore i111portantly what that was

11 supposed to do waa to be the early warni ng signal tor ., 12 any conta111inants that was flowing out and beyond the ­n 1J site that would be a tlag that would go up a nd that = = would be -- that data would be transmitted to EPA via ca

OEM, okay? The well sampling taken by t ha

16 Department ot Health. And it you go back in the

17 recorda I '11 not juat dreaming thia up. The

11 recorda clearly a tate in the State' a recorda

19 someplace and in your recorda, you will tind that

20 that monitoring waa in !act taken every aix months or

21 thereabouts, and that was discontinued. So, you

22 don't need my word. You don't need anybody alae to

23 aand you a letter. Just go back and check your

24 recorda. It' • all there.

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" And I feel, I really feel absolutely hu•iliated

ve•re aayin~ here. I think thet•a vary poor on the

would like to know, and I'd like to be, pleased be

continued, indefinite cleaning or - ­ sorry - ­

•onitoring of the welh, and who will be reaponaibla,

and who will ba financing it. Will !PA and the

10 Jupertund7 If not, why not7 I think there'• enough

11 •oney to do that. And I think if you go back through

12 your recorda, I thouqht that was part of the

1l agreement way, way back.

" There seems to ba much co ntusion over - ­ the

1 5 fourth point - ­ over the communications between the

16 responsible parthe considering the unfair response

17 ti11e that waa given to residents or local

18 authorities, and I think what's got to happen hare ia

19 that EPA h herewith raquutad to provide all data,

20 all correspondence to the undersigned. Included in

21 that dietribution ahould ba the Town of cove ntry, the

22 Rhode Island OEM, and the Department of Health. And

23 I'm aura that you're aware of the Freedom of

24 Information Act can be enacted or can be invoked to

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qet. this inforaation. So, aa of nov there should be

no aiCcuaaa a a to why people didn't get on the •ailing

liat or people not knowing what's going on around

I expect !PA to do that, okay?

Also, I think that, and lastly, there ouqht to

be - ­ EPA ' s requested to co nduct a quarterly or

provi de a quarterly report to the Waatarn coventry

residents in the stat u e of the cleanup efforts, ita

10 problaaa and ita accomplhhmanta, and that's all I

11 90t. It's a little mora formal hera.

12 MR, BO'tNTON: Could 1 aak you one

question about your firat point?

14 MR. CUASTINI: Sure.

15 MR . BOYNTON: You talked about th e

16 response time of JO days, and then you said aoma thlnq

17 about in the future we s hould consider that. Do I

18 understand to that - ­

19 MR. GUASTINI: What I eaid wu, I

20 thou9ht vhat I aaid waa that the responae time of 30

21 daye s tarting one day after va had the meeting, which

22 the 29th or whateve r it was, the first of .July,

23 totally, was totally, a a f a r as I ' m concerned,

:u not enough time to give a nybody, evan an educated

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person, the the -- that'• educate:! in thia field

a the to really look at the data that waa provided,

Attar all 1 you've had it for two years. Why do you

keep that atutt aecrat7 Why don 1 t you paaa it on to

ua ao wa can understand it, ao wa can be intelligent

And that's 11y concern. No'ol, in tha future, what I'•

aayinq h that you have a raaponaibility, you should

have a reaponaibility, and we'll e nact that

10 raaponaibility to anforca you to provide that data to

11 tha orqaniza t io n , Save our Water, to tha Tow n of "a Coventry, to tha Rhoda Island OEM, to tha -n

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16 whoavar ia r a qu aa tinq it. wa wa nt to know, i n other

17 words, what's going We want to read your lipa.

18 We wa nt to hear it. We want to see it . And we wan t

19 to ask questions. So, I ca n call up Jim dow n a t the

20 State Houae, like I did today, a nd say, "Jim, what do

21 you think? " And I want to be able to talk

22 i nt elligently to him.

" MR. BOYNTON: Okay. I understand

24 your comment.

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MIL GUASTINI: So, I think that the

rule ouqht to be changed, the 30 days. That's all I

90t to uy.

MR, BOYNTON: Okay. Thank you for

your coM•ents, Doss Marion Sykes wish to ••k• a

stats11snt? That 1s S-Y-K-!-5.

MRS. SYKES: That's correct.

MR. BOYNTON: Perry Hill Road,

Coventry, Rhoda Island.

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11 Hill Road,

MRS . SYKES:

Coventry, Rhoda

That's

Island.

right, 220 Parry

My comments of .,-the proposed plan dated June, 1993 for clea nup at the n = " Picillo farm sits. First of all, funding. Proceed =

" with the plan and do not wait for funding. Waiting = 15 for funding first coul d be a much larger wait it tied

16 up in the courts.

17 OEM participation. I would i nsist that a OEM

18 representati ve be on the si te during all operations.

19 Town officials should be notithd ot the progress on

20 a minimum of a monthly basis. Residents, OEM, town

21 officials, a nd health department should be notithd

22 immediately of the fo llowing:

2J 1. If contaminants begin to move further off

24 the site.

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" aquifer.

J. Reddantial walh should be tea tad at the

a tart than periodically during tha work procaaa.

And I capitalize, h•adiately if there ia a break in

the aquifer.

4. Pu·iodic meetings should ba held to inform

the COIIIIIunity of prograaa or lack of.

5. In caaa of an amargancy, I would lika to •••

10 a plan imphW~antad to anaura the aataty of the .,11 community. -n12 Notes: If trucks are entering or leavi ng t h e = 1l alta, a time achadula should ba aat up when achoola

ca= 14 are in aaaaion ao they wil l no t ba

Hi Par ry Hi ll Road at tha time sch ool buaaaa wo uld b a

16 tro ve ling on t h a t road.

17 Alao, it's bean a long, hard, trying bat t le, a nd

18 I hope that this plan h finally going to ba t h e

19 Thank you.

20 HR . BOYNTON: Thank you. Oami nq

2 1 Sherman, would you like to make a statement? That's

22 S-H-E-R-M-A-N .

23 MR. SHERMAN: Good evening. My name

24 is Deming Sherman. I'm an attorney with ott ices in

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vill be subaitting a fonaal w-rit t en co•••nt h ter on

thh aonth.

My au te11ent h as follows: I speak on bahalt

at the Pic illo alta. Th••• companies did not own the

alta. They did not ope rata the alta. They did not

knowingly aa nd a ny ma t erials to the alta . Any wasta

10 aatarhls that ware bro ught to th is Picillo dta wa re

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13 As I indicated, wa will ba submitting formal

14 written comll'lanta at a later time; however , va wish to

1 !5 Juke soma ganaral comments this evening.

16 Our co11paniaa ara sensi tive to the conce rns of

17 the naiqhbora. Together, wa have s pe nt mora than

18 $10 million to pay for tha investigation and tha

19 cleanup of the Picillo site. wa believe that any

20 additional monies s hould ba wisely s pent and s hould

21 respond to the real risks, not hypothetica l ones.

22 We think that tha proposed plan, coating at

23 least an a dd i tional $16 million , ia based primarily

future hypothetical risks rather than on actual

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to aay, riaka such •• potential hu1nn exposure t o

fro• wa lla, awu1p water. The only real risk

present ed by thh al t a h to ao•a o ne who bu il d• a

ho• • on the a lt a a nd dr ills a dri nki ng wat e r wall and

A.e the EPA itse lf s t a ted i n the proposed plan on

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Page ll, and I qu o ta, "EPA c oncluded that the major

risk to public health would result from ingestion of

co!"' t alllinatad groundwater and surface water. This ie

not a currant risk, because the contaminated

qroundwatar surrounding the alta and the unname d

swamp are not presently uead aa water auppliaa. If

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from the contaminated aquifer or the unnamed swam p aa

a drinking water supply, such use would pose

unacceptable long-t e rm risk s to human health, " end of

quote.

We th i nk that th e $16 million would be better

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spent on o the r si t es where there a r e a ctual

inc lud i ng ot her si t es i n Rhode Isla nd . The

risks ,

ot the r es ide nt s c an be bes t addr e s s ed by d e veloping

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a aonitorint plan to provide continuing assura nce

that no contaaln&nta are !loving towards the

years before any contaainatio n reached a drinking

We note that there ia no evidence that the

contaainatlon on the al ta ia !lowing toward the

reaidencea north and east of the site. Indeed the

10 EPA has found that the plu111ea of conta11ination

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12 aqo, and that the plu11aa flow again t o the awampa.

1 3 The contamination ia not flowing downstream fro• the

14 awampa. Therefore, there ia no threat to Whitford

15 Pond. Our inquirh• ot the Town of coventry have

16 p roduced no infonaation that the Town i ntends t o use

17 the surface ""atera of the unnamed s wamp tor drinking

18 water supply. The unnamed swa mp in !act will

19 probably not be used as a drinking wa t e r s upp l y tor

20 requlatory a nd ecoloqical The remaininq

21 contamination is confi ned to the a r ea under the ei te

22 and the ama 11 between the s ite and the swa mps .

23 The only real risk to anyone's health would be it o ne

24 were to build a home o n the Picillo property, drill a

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drinking water wall, and drink that water.

The proposed plan u built on the pr••i•• that

the d ta ia llkal y to be davalopad for raaidancaa,

and that the vroundwatar under the alta will be uaad

tor drinking water for thoaa raaidancaa. To

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it did, it would find that tha pra•i•• ia a tlavad

for a null bar of raaaona.

Firat: Davalopmant of tha alta ia not likely

11 davalopmant in tha area ia alo ng roads. .,-

12 Second: Thera ara we tlands near the al ta that n = 13 will restrict development i n any = = 14 Next, tha Picillo property ia tied up with

lS numerou s liana, including II'IOrtgaqaa, judgments, and

16 taxes. It will taka a monumental effort and a

17 substantial amount o f money to clea r the title to

18 aall tha prope rty to any pot.nthl developer. And

19 there is no evidence that anyone has any i ntention o!

20 doinq now or in the !uture,

21 Even assuming that this property could be

22 devel oped economically, the Town ot Coventry, amo ng

23 others, will have to improve the property tor

24 settl ement - ­ tor dava l opma nt, excuse ma . Thi s

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property is not alon9 the road and will have to be

•ubdivided into a house lot• under a •ubdivhion

on the National Priorith• List. We find it hard to

ot the site, would approve such a plan. And we ti nd

it harder to believe that •o•eon• would knowi n9ly

purcha•e a ho•e site on the Pioillo site 9iven it•

10 history .

11 In addition, there are new and atringent ""a-12 disclosure law• that have jus t taken effect in n = 13 Rhode I•land that 'oiOUld require full disclosure of = 14 the site to a potential buyer aa a former hazardous ca 15 waste eite. We canno t imagi ne that properties could

16 be aold tor home sites in liqht of auch required

17 diaclo•ure.

18 Finally, it is highly unlikely that a pote ntial

owner could obtain financing !or a house a former

20 hazardous waste site. As you know, the FHA right now

21 will not approve mortgaqe insurance !or properties

22 within two miles o! the site. we cannot imagine that

23 it 'oiOUld approve mortgage insura nce !or lots and

24 houses on the si t e.

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developed tliea in the tace ot reality.

We think that the only realistic uae ot thh

proper lnatitutional controla, by that I 111ean, auch

thing• aa ordinancaa raatrictinq the drilling or

drinking water walla on the property, and aiailar

kinde ot raatrictiona, with theae controla, the aita

can be restricted with rhk to the public health,

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welfare, and aafaty. The Picillo aita, aa it axiata

today, doaa not represent a real riak to public .,-

1 2 health and therefore doaa not warrant the expenditure n c::t

1 J of an additional $16 million for unrealiatic, c::t 14 hypothetical future riaka .

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1 5 Thank you ve ry much.

16 MR. BOYNTON: Thank you. Ia there

17 anyone e l se here tonight that wou ld like to make a

18 comment for the record?

1 9 MR. CUA.STINI: I have a queation.

20 MR. BOYNTON: No questions during the

21 hearing. We can close the hearing and have queationa

22 afterwards.

2J MR. CUASTINI: Well, it's a question

24 pertaining to the hearing, not a question abou t the

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duap. Can we rebut any ot the -·

MRS. SYKES: Any ot the teati•ony.

MR. GUASTINI: Can we, can we clarity

MR, BOYNTON : You c an •• to your ow n

MR. GUASTINI: Yeah.

MR, BOYNTON: If you would like to

tonight , or in a comment, you could do that it you

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in the paeeage I juet heard that I'd juat like to

13 •aka a notation on that. There ie no law, to my

14 knowledge, in the State ot Rhode leland pertaining to

1 5 tull discloaura ot a co ntaminated site. That'• o nly

16 it it's a used home, not a new home or a new home

17 aite, which probably ought to be cha nged. And ao,

18 that ought to be clarified, I believe.

19 MR. BOYNTON: Thank you.

20 Do you have any questions?

21 MS. KRASKO: No.

22 MR. BOYNTON : Do you have any

23 queationa ?

24 MR. BALL: No.

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MR. JOYNTON: It there are no further

co•••nta, I'd like to thank you all for participating

toniqht and reMind you that the co•Ment period vill

cloaa on Thuraday, July 29th tor ••king written

COI'III'Ianta and, tharatora, thia hearing ia clos ed.

to entertain soma queationa ott the record.

(HEARING CLOSED AT I: 1!5 P.M.)

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I, CLAUDIA KATHIUN, RPR•CM, do hereby certity that

accurate, taken at the tiae ot the above-entitled

aatter.

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IN WITNESS WHEREOf', I have hereunto ae t my hand thia

--~~-day •'---~..)------- • 1991.

Oo..u.~'ro:l.~-~c CLAUDIA RATHBUN, NOTARY PU BLIC/RPR-CM

IN RE: PUBLIC HEARING ·­ PROPOSED PLAN FOR THE

PICILLO f'ARM SUPERFUND SITE

Date: July lJ, 1993

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