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How to Avoid Boring Panel Discussions: Nine Guidelines for Constructive Disagreement 1 November 2, 2016 R I GHT B LE N D I NVE S T I NG

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How to Avoid Boring Panel Discussions:

Nine Guidelines for Constructive Disagreement

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November 2, 2016

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Brooke Southall, Principal, RIABiz.com

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“Boring  panel  discussions  are  one  of  my  pet  peeves.  You  go  to  a  conference  hoping  to  learn  something  new  and  you  get  polite  babble  and  marketing  nonsense.  

There  is  not  enough  disagreement.”

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2-Minutes About Each Speaker

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• Robert  J.  Martorana,  CFAPortfolio  ManagerRight  Blend  Investing,  LLC

• Brian  Gilmartin,  CFAPortfolio  ManagerTrinity  Asset  Management,  Inc.

• Jeff  BriskinDirector  of  Marketing  Advisor  Perspectives  &  APViewpoint

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Methodology

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• I  interviewed  ten  of  my  peers  to  find  out  how  to  make  panel  discussions  more  insightful.

• We  found  that  constructive  disagreement  is  a  key  part  of  an  interesting  discussion.

• Here  is  the  recipe  for  an  effective  panel  discussion…

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Why Do We Need Constructive Disagreement?

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Avoiding  cognitive  biases:• Anchoring:  We  estimate  an  initial  value  

and  we  are  slow  to  adjust.  • Availability:  We  remember  things  that  are  

vivid,  like  plane  crashes.• Representativeness:  We  rely  on  

stereotypes  and  fail  to  ask  “What  am  I  missing?”  

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What Makes a Group Effective?

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Charles  Duhigg described  successful  teams  in  Smarter,  Better,  Faster.  Two  key  elements:1. Interesting  task:  The  group  feels  that  the  

work  is  meaningful.2. Psychological  safety:  “Teams  succeed  

when  everyone  feels  they  can  speak  up  and  when  members  show  they  are  sensitive  to  how  one  another  feels.”  

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Brian Gilmartin, CFA, founder of Trinity Asset Management Inc.

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“When  you  have  highly  intelligent,  highly  motivated  people,  how  do  you  handle  conflict?    It  is  not  enough  to  have  analytical  rigor—do  you  have  integrity  and  a  process  for  handling  disagreement?”  

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Preparation and Execution

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The  nine  guidelines  are  separated  into:• Four  steps  of  preparation  • Five  principles  for  execution

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Tadas Viskanta, Founder and Editor of Abnormal Returns

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“Disagreement  is  constructive  when  you’re  on  the  same  topic  and  you’re  working  toward  the  same  goal.  Online,  people  have  their  own  agendas.  They  are  often  speaking  past  you  to  some  perceived  audience”  [so  their  analysis  and  conclusions  are  suspect].

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Brooke Southall, RIAbiz

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“You  need  to  define  terms  so  you  can  get  to  the  core  of  the  disagreement.  You  may  still  disagree,  but  at  least  you  know  where  your  assumptions  differ.  It  represents  progress  if  you  disagree  coherently,  instead  of  just  talking  past  each  other."

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Nicholas ColasChief Strategist at Convergex

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“Think  about  the  one  or  two  things  that  will  change  their  world.  Don’t  go  in  front  of  a  group  unless  you  have  great  ideas.  Something  memorable.

If  I  don’t  have  it,  I  don’t  do  the  panel.”

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Jeff Briskin, Marketing Director, Advisor Perspectives

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The  moderator  has  to  be  the  advocate  of  the  audience.  The  moderator  has  to  make  sure  that  high-­‐level  talk  applies  to  an  advisor’s  daily  practice  with  clients.  You  don’t  want  a  philosophical  debate  that  the  audience  can’t  apply.  

The  panelists  are  not  there  to  impress,  but  to  inform.    It’s  not  about  ‘I’m  smarter  than  you;’  it’s  about  who  gives  the  best  actionable  information.

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Michael Kitces, Partner at Pinnacle Advisory Group; publisher of the Nerd’s Eye View blog

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Many  people  just  aren't  wired  for  constructive  debate.  You  need  panelists  who  are  naturally  good  at  engaging  in  respectful  disagreement.  In  fact,  I  find  for  the  panels  where  you  actually  have really  good  people  in  the  first  place,  very  little  preparation  is  needed,  and  ‘over-­‐preparing’  the  panel  can  stifle  its  ability  to  have  constructive  discourse  (since  people  worry  about  staying  on  script,  instead  of  staying  on  subject).

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Shifting Gears

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• Now  we  turn  from  preparation  to  execution.

• The  following  page  offers  guidelines,  not  hard  and  fast  rules.

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Nicholas Colas, Convergex

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“I  always  tell  panelists:  Put  the  ad  for  your  firm  at  the  top.  You  have  two-­‐minutes  at  the  top  to  give  a  commercial.  Then  it’s  over  and  it’s  open  season."

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Jeff Miller, President of NewArc Investments; blogs at Dash of Insight

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“There  are  people  who  are  bond  guys,  and  that’s  a  vested  interest.  They  are  not  biased  per  se,  but  they  tend  to  hire  people  with  an  approach  that  will  work  with  their  clientele.  The  person  will  have  a  conservative  view  on  risk.  This  leads  to  groupthink.”

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Brooke Southall, RIAbiz

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“The  problem  isn’t  hidden  agendas;  it’s  the  agenda  that’s  hiding  in  plain  sight.  Too  many  people  just  stick  with  a  marketing  message  and  can’t,  or  won’t,  go  off  the  script.The  financial  industry  is  unwilling  to  engage  in  open  dialogue.  They  avoid  unpleasantness  and  accountability.  They  have  trouble  even  defining accountability.”

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Intellectual Integrity

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When  I  host  investment  discussions,  I  have  found  that  two  traits  are  essential  to  promoting  constructive  disagreement:• Intellectual  Humility:  Aware  of  our  limits• Intellectual  Courage:  Willing  to  confront  irrational  beliefs

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Constructive Disagreement

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• Focus  on  Solutions:  There  is  no  point  in  getting  together  to  complain.

• Be  Practical:  As  Jeff  Briskin noted,  you’re  there  to  give  insight,  and  not  to  impress.  (Discussion  is  not  debate.)

• Entertainment  ≠  Effectiveness:  “There  is  a  big  difference  between  what  gets  discussed  and  what  is  effective.”  (Anon.)

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Nicholas Colas:Brevity

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“An  hour  is  an  outside  limit  for  a  panel  discussion,  and  20  minutes  for  a  single  speaker.  Attention  spans  are  shrinking,  so  get  right  to  the  point.”

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Jeff Miller:Accountability

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“It’s  not  the  knowledge  level.  It’s  the  accountability.  [This  is  what’s  missing  in  the  media.]  There  isn’t  a  market-­‐driven  process  that  is  fast  enough  to  detect  nonsense  and  hold  people  accountable  for  bad  forecasts  and  a  bad  process.”

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Accountability

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• Listen  to  your  peers• Acknowledge  their  points  and  your  limits• Apologize  if  you  cross  the  line.  

Remember,  you  give  respect  and  you  get  respect.

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For more information please contact:

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• Robert  J.  Martorana,  CFA:  Portfolio  Manager,  Right  Blend  Investing,  LLC,   [email protected]­‐919-­‐2395

• Brian  Gilmartin,  CFA,  Portfolio  Manager,  Trinity  Asset  Management,  Inc.,  [email protected]­‐810-­‐3480

• Jeff  Briskin:  Director  of  Marketing,  Advisor  Perspectives  &  APViewpoint,  [email protected]­‐934-­‐6252

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Resources 1

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• Valuable  Intellectual  Traits,  Foundation  for  Critical  Thinking.  Describes  intellectual  humility,  intellectual  courage,  etc.

http://www.criticalthinking.org/pages/valuable-­‐intellectual-­‐traits/528

• Thinking  Fast  and  Slow,  Daniel  Kahneman,  2013.  A  simple  guide  to  behavioral  finance  and  a  tale  well  told.  https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-­‐Fast-­‐Slow-­‐Daniel-­‐Kahneman/dp/0374533555

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Resources 2

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• Smarter,  Better,  Faster,  Charles  Duhigg.  Discusses  the  Aristotle  Project  at  Google  in  2015.  Quotation  taken  from  page  67.https://www.amazon.com/Smarter-­‐Faster-­‐Better-­‐Productive-­‐Business-­‐ebook/dp/B00Z3FRYB0#nav-­‐subnav

• The  Aristotle  Project  was  also  described  in  How  to  Build  a  Better  Team,  in  NY  Times  Magazine:  http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/magazine/what-­‐google-­‐learned-­‐from-­‐its-­‐quest-­‐to-­‐build-­‐the-­‐perfect-­‐team.html

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Resources 3

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• Principles by  Ray  Dalio.  Dalio based  the  practices  at  Bridgewater  on  “radical  truthfulness.”  These  principles  are  designed  for  the  investment  process.  https://www.principles.com/#Principles

• How  Meditators  Can  Overcome  Behavioral  Finance  Biases,  Jason  A.  Voss,  CFA.  Identifying  a  bias  does  not  eliminate  it.  https://blogs.cfainstitute.org/investor/2014/09/16/how-­‐meditators-­‐can-­‐overcome-­‐behavioral-­‐finance-­‐biases/

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