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Moneyweb Seminar Rajay Ambekar October 2011

Rayjay Ambekar on valuations, asset allocation and markets

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Moneyweb Seminar Rajay Ambekar

October 2011

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The world is not close to being fixed

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The crisis was averted – but the problem not solved

US DEBT (RELATIVE TO GDP)

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NET SAVING RATES

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NBER RECESSIONS SHADED

PRIVATE

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Too much debt… …and not enough saving…

Source: Morgan Stanley Research; 14 July 2011

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Stress in Europe

Source: BofA Merrill Lynch Global Equity Strategy, Bloomberg

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Central banks – Balance sheets keep growing…

Source: Bloomberg

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QE1

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US, UK, ECB, BOJ, PBOC Balance sheet assets

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And the effects of cheap money are evident

Source: I-Net Bridge to September 2011

S&P 500: Policy driving equities

China fiscal

stimulus package

QE1 start

ECB rate hike

QE1 exit

QE2 start

QE2

end

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What if the US follows Japan?

Source: BofA Merrill Lynch Global Equity Strategy, Bloomberg

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How has our market performed?

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FTSE/JSE All Share (US$) MSCI Emerging Market Index (US$)

SA/Emerging markets – a great decade

Source: I-Net Bridge to 31 August 2011

All Share Index

Emerging Markets

ALSI ($) versus Emerging Markets ($)

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We all went offshore ten years ago

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SA Equiy relative to Global Equity performance (rolling 5-yr annualised)

Global Equities outperform SA Equities, rolling 5yr annualised

SA Equities outperform Global Equities, rolling 5yr annualised

The four most dangerous words in investing:

This time it’s different!

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What about valuations?

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Equity Markets do not look expensive…

EM v DM: Forward P/E

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But earnings are high!

S&P 500 Trailing 12 month EPS

Source: Bloomberg, September 2011

Current estimate: 99.22

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Not so cheap on 10yr average earnings

Source: Morgan Stanley Research; 14 July 2011

S&P through-the-cycle PE ratio

S&P THROUGH-THE-CYCLE PE RATIO*

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ON 10YR REAL AVERAGE EARNINGS

LONG-TERM

AVERAGE: 16.4

12M TRAILING PE

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SA Equities...looks fair but again earnings is the risk

Source: I-Net Bridge to September 2011

ALSI trailing P/E

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ALSI expensive

ALSI cheap

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Mean +1 Standard Deviation

SA equities…expensive vs global equities

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Rand – the wild card

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Foreign net purchases versus the Rand

Source: I-Net Bridge

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Foreign net purchases of SA Equities & Bonds (R'billion, rolling 12 months) USDZAR

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The rand is still overvalued

Source: I-Net Bridge

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Summary

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Steadily holding our cautious mode

● The domestic equity market is over-valued – earnings are high

● We anticipate a great environment for stock picking…we are holding defensive

positions, cheap stocks and Rand hedges

● We are attracted to stocks with resilient, depressed or below average profit margins

● We are positioning for continued Rand weakness

● Global risks (Sovereign debt etc) are not going away and the economic recovery will be

muted

WE ARE DEFENSIVELY POSITIONED

● Markets have not sold off enough to warrant a broad scale acceptance of risk

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Thank you

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