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The Sacred and the Secular
Douglas Medin
Northwestern University
With the following key people
Dan Bartels, Rumen Iliev, Sonya Sachdeva,
Will Bennis, Scott Atran, Jeremy Ginges
Overview
1. How is morally-motivated decision making similar to or different from secular decision making?
2. What do we know about the special case of so-called sacred or protected values?
Semantic Side of Decisions
In addition to the concrete outcomes, decisions convey information to others and to oneself concerning values, goals and the like. A 2-component view:
1. Instrumental, involving probabilities and utilities associated with outcomes
2. Symbolic, expressive or meaning component that may be linked to identity
Special Case: Sacred or protected values
Tetlock: ”Any value that a moral community implicitly or explicitly treats as possessing infinite or transcendental significance that precludes comparisons, tradeoffs or indeed any other mingling with bounded or secular values”
Protected Values
1. Resist tradeoffs—especially between the sacred and the secular
2. Quantity Insensitivity---e.g. harming one is no less wrong than harming five
3. Involve deontological rather than consequentialist decision rules (e.g. do no harm; do it because it’s the right thing to do regardless of the consequences).
Baron, Ritov and others
Protected values and omission bias:
Example: disease threatens to kill 1000 children but there is a vaccine that can prevent deaths but sometimes causes deaths. What’s the highest number of deaths you would allow from the vaccine and still go ahead with it?
Typical Results
1. People with protected values have lower thresholds (are less willing to make tradeoffs).
2. People with protected values are more likely to give a zero response (not willing to trade off at all)
Prevailing View
1. Sacred values get in the way of making the tradeoffs that inevitably must occur.
2. Sacred values may be associated with “posturing” and may be only “pseudo-sacred.”
An alternative view
1. Maybe sacred or protected values have some function
2. We should be suspicious of generalizing from results with undergraduates in fairly restricted and artificial paradigms.
Further aspects of sacred values
• Privileged link to emotions
• Bound to notions of identity and trust
• Often have a strong inter-personal component
Bartels and Medin(2007)
Comparison of Baron and Ritov’s methods with those modeled after Connolly and Reb (2003)
Baron and Ritov: As a result of a dam on a river, 20 species of fish are threatened with extinction. By opening the dam for a month each year, you can save these species, but 2 species downstream will become extinct because of the changing water level.
Would you open the dam? Y N
What is the largest number of species made extinct by the opening at which you would open the dam?__________
Connolly and Reb: As a result of a dam on a river, 20 species of fish are threatened with extinction. By opening the dam for a month each year, you can save these species, but some species downstream will become extinct because of the changing water level.
Would you open the dam if it would kill 2 species of fish downstream as a result? Y NWould you open the dam if it would kill 6 species of fish downstream as a result? Y NWould you open the dam if it would kill 10 species of fish downstream as a result? Y NWould you open the dam if it would kill 14 species of fish downstream as a result? Y NWould you open the dam if it would kill 18 species of fish downstream as a result? Y N
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Followup with jihadists (with Scott Atran and Jeremy Ginges)
Does God love the martyr
Kills one ten
Less? 13 12
More? 0 38
Approve ten hundred
Less? 13 21
More? 1 39
Further Cognitive Consequences of Sacred Values
Rumen Iliev
The area of decision making has more or less neglected cognitive processes and mental representations
Consequences for conjunction fallacy and effects of an irrelevant anchor
Predictions and Results:Cognitive properties of SVs
1. Greater conjunction fallacy for relevant information
2. Smaller effect of an irrelevant anchor
3. From a Stroop task (say the color in which a word is printed and not the word itself). Larger Stroop effect for value-related words and better incidental memory for value-related words
Some followup studies
Context effects on judgment
Attraction effect and Compromise effect
Dimensions = moral values such as a plan that prevents 10 species from extinction and saves 100 children from starving
Attraction Effect
• Two alternative choice set
• P(2)<P(3)
Attraction Effect
• Two alternative choice setP(2)<P(3)
• Three alternative choice set (1 is a decoy)
• Decoy increases choices of 2
Compromise effect
• Pick 2,3 so people are indifferent
• 2 becomes a compromise when 1 is added
• Compromise = more choices of 2
Results so far
Moral values are associated with clear attraction effects
Compromise effects absent or weak
No evidence that SV versus no-SV changes results
Interim Summary
Two keys properties of SVs--tradeoff reluctance and insensitivity to quantity, are undermined by these studies.
The sensitivity of SVs to attentional manipulations and context effects is a challenge to understanding processes associated with moral judgment
Other Challenges
1. How do sacred values help us understand (intra- and inter-) group formation, cooperation, and conflict?
2. How can we bridge between basic research conducted under artificial, (over) simplified conditions and real practical problems.
Example from field research in northeast Wisconsin
• Participants: Members of various cultural groups in two neighboring counties, including – Native Americans living on the Menominee
reservation,– Evangelical Christians living in neighboring
Shawano county,– Avid hunters and fishers (in both locations).
Scenarios
1. Requiring Native Americans to give up tribal regulation of fishing and hunting practices.
2. Allowing public schools to teach secular (non-religious) evolutionary theory in science class, but not a Christian perspective on creation.
3. Allowing the mother and family to decide whether or not to have an abortion in cases where she would almost certainly lose her life delivering the child.
4. Allowing farmers to use fertilizers that pose a very small risk of groundwater contamination if they dramatically increase the yield of a large field.
Participants asked to indicate agreement with 2 statements
1. “This is the kind of decision where it's best to rely on moral rules of right and wrong”
2. “This is the kind of decision where it's best to [weigh the costs & benefits/pros & cons]”
7 pt. Likert scale, 7 = completely agreeAverage across scenarios
(All four scenarios had the same cross-over pattern). “This is the type of decision where it’s…
p < .001
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"This is the type of decision where it's best to relyon moral rules"
"This is the type of decision where it's best toweigh the costs & benefits"
SV="No"
SV="Yes"
…But…people with SVs believe relying on
moral rules helps them improve consequences:
Relationship between the endorsement of two statements:
a. “This is the kind of decision where it’s best to rely on moral rules of right and wrong”
b. “This is the kind of decision where relying on moral rules of right and wrong will lead to better long-term consequences.”
r = 0.74
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"This is the kind of decision where it's best torely on moral rules of right and wrong."
"This is the kind of decision where relying onmoral rules of right and wrong will lead to better
long-term consequences."
SV="No"
SV="Yes"
Why might Ps think relying on moral rules works better than weighing costs & benefits?
• Consequentialism is only as good as our ability to accurately anticipate consequences
(research suggests people are not good at this)
• Decision researchers tend to make a number of “closed-world” assumptions: That Ps will and should limit the information they
use to that provided in the scenario itself (i.e., they will not use experience or knowledge they bring to scenario).
Other Field Studies
Middle-East
Palestinian refugees and displaced Israeli Settlers reasoning about potential peace agreements with sacred (e.g. right of return, recognition of Israel) and secular (the UN offers 10 billion a year in aid) components
“Taboo versus Taboo+ versus Symbolic”
Palestinian recognition of the “sacred right” of Israel
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Compromising Palestinian sovereignty over East Jerusalem
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Studies in Guatemala
Original work by Atran, Medin et al
Itza’ Maya and the forest spirits—sacred values promote sustainability
Ladino---forest spirits play no such role
Next Generation follow up work by Iliev, Medin, LeGuinn and Atran
Social network distance correlated with values from God’s perspective
Expert network distance correlated with values from the forest spirit perspective
Itza’ Maya (and Ladino) personal values shift from being aligned with forest spirits to cash value and God…..Maya notion of forest spirits replaced by Ladino concepts
Forest itself—much more degraded
Work in Northern India by Sachdeva, Medin and Ginges
Clash between Hindu fundamentalists and Muslims over sacred site of ancient temple and mosque (Ayodhya/Faizabad) and Kashmir
More or less replicate Ginges et al that sacred and secular do not mix….more detailed ethnography
Where did I go?
Faizabad/ Ayodhya
Delhi
The Babri Masjid/ Ram Janmbhoomi debate
• Hindus believe this land to be the birthplace of an holy incarnation, Ram.
• Muslims believe this land to be a mark of the first Mughal emperor to conquer India, Babar.
• December, 1992 - thousands of Hindu fundamentalists broke down all the security placed around this site in 1990 and tore the Babri Masjid down.
This sparked the worst riots seen in India between Hindus and Muslims since the partition.
Kashmir Issue
• Began with the struggle for Muslim autonomy in the newly independent India and lead to the partition and creation of Pakistan
• Kashmir’s Maharaja sought Indian assistance in 1947 when it was invaded by tribes people from Pakistan
Three wars have been fought over KashmirCurrently, India holds two-thirds of Kashmir while
Pakistan holds the rest
Again scenarios with Taboo, Taboo+ and Symbolic Tradeoffs
Results
Deals with symbolic concessions are better than taboo tradeoffs
Taboo+ backfires for Hindu fundamentalists
for the sacred site of Ram’s birth and for
Muslims for Kashmir
But for the other two combinations of scenarios and groups secular concessions may help (analyzing interviews currently)
Why are these two sites of interest?
Guatemala work shows the unraveling of a sacred value
Northern India shows how sacred values may be recruited over time (e.g. the elevation of the God Ram) with violent consequences—destruction of the mosque in 1992 and associated killing that go on to this day
Challenges
Building Models that address the role of sacred values on moral decision making (see progress by Forbus group), partly because we need a deeper understanding of SVs and partly because they may vary with cultural contexts.
With respect to the latter we need to know more about the link between SVs and action (e.g. Amish vs. Fundamentalists)
End
Protected Values
Anti-abortion versus Women’s right to choose
Conjunction Fallacy:All three scenarios
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Other Results
Larger Stroop for value-relevant words
Better incidental recall of words
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Babri Masjid - Symbolic Tradeoffs Across Various Dependent Measures
Sacred Values
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Symbolic Tradeoffs Taboo+ Tradeoffs
Acceptability of Deal by Religion
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Symbolic Tradeoffs Taboo+ Tradeoffs
Likeliness to Vote for Trade-off Deals by Religion and Sacred Values
Kashmir Scenario
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Summary – Kashmir Scenario
• Suggest that Muslim participants are, in fact, more sensitive to changes in trade-off type than Hindu participants in this scenario
• In the Kashmir scenario, Muslim participants with sacred values are less approving of any trade-off deal than Muslim participants without sacred values. However, in in the Babri Masjid scenario, this result is reversed.
• Different degrees of sacred values– Kashmir issue resonates with the Muslim identity which is even
stronger for most Indian Muslim participants than their national identity - therefore stronger attachment to this issue (negative correlation between feelings on Kashmir and Babri Masjid issue)
– The Babri Masjid issue is more relevant for the Hindu nationalist identity (strong positive correlation between Kashmir and Babri Masjid issue)
Likeliness to Vote
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