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biZina ivaniSvili:#34 (218) 8-14.VIII.2012 weli gamodis yovel oTxSabaTs www.saertogazeti.net; E-mail: [email protected] fasi 1 lari
me da Tqven erTadSevZlebT da arCevnebiT
SevcvliT am xelisuflebas!!!
`CixSi moqceul qveyanas
gadarCenisa da ganviTarebis
perspeqtiva gauCnda~
Cems megobrebs pirdapir uTxres: asi piradobis
mowmoba mogvitaneT da 5000 lars
mogcemTo
`nacionalur moZraobas~ ruseTTan
konfliqti SesaZloa imisTvis
dasWirdes, rom arCevnebi CaSalos!
saakaSvils undoda aTaTurqi an petre I gamxdariyo, magram bolos caxes cinoberad iqca...
zaza SaTiriSvili:
paata xizanaSvili: jaba jiSkariani: ramaz sayvareliZe:
xelisufleba male gamorekavsagvistos cxeli Rameebidan `jaSuS koWoiebs~, romlebicTiTs biZina ivaniSvilisken gaiSveren...
miSas da Salvas erTi naTlia xom ar hyavT _ rusi da Tanac`kagebeSniki?~
darwmunebuli var, `nacionalebi~ arCevnebSi `qarTul ocnebas~
ocdaaT procentze mets ar `gamouweren~,riTac qveyanas samoqalaqo
dapirispirebisTvis wiraven...
saerTo gazeTi #34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.2
gazeTi xxelmZRvanelobs TTavisufali ppresis pprincipiT.SesaZloa, aavtoris ppozicia aar eeTanxmebodes rredaqciis aazrs.informaciis ssizusteze ppasuxismgebelia aavtori. ggasaCivrebaSesaZlebelia mmasalis ggamoqveynebidan eerTi kkviris vvadaSi.
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_ ki, batono, Tqveni
nebaa, me, rogorc poli-
tikosi, nu mogwonvarT,
magram erTmaneTis mosmena
xom unda SegveZlos. sir-
cxvilia es... Cven xom oc-
daaTi saukunis istoria
gvaqvs? _ eubneboda biZi-
na ivaniSvili saakaSvilis
mxardamWer axalgazrdebs,
romlebic `miSa~! _ `mi-
Sa~-ss skandirebiT da uxerxuli replikebiT
cdilobdnen xeli SeeSalaT misTvis.
batoni biZina mxolod imiT ki ar Canda
Sewuxebuli, rom mas uSlidnen xels, aramed
ufro imiT, rom es axalgazrdebi cudad iq-
ceodnen da imdenad gulwrfeli iyo es wu-
xili, momeCvena, rom es ymawvilebic mixvd-
nen amas da, mgoni, cotaTi TviTonac Sewux-
dnen.
_ Tqveni brali ar aris es, ase rom iq-
ceviT. es im erTi kacis bralia... qarTvele-
bi varT Cven yvelani, sircxvilia, erTmane-
Tis mosmena rom ar SegviZlia... modiT, dame-
laparakeT, _ am sityvebiT xSirad mimarTavs
xolme biZina ivaniSvili im `politikur de-
sants~, romelsac xelisufleba xan sad Ca-
asafrebs da xan _ sad.
am agresiulad ganwyobil adamianebs biZi-
na ivaniSvili, rogorc wesi, keTilganwyobas
axvedrebs.
xelisufleba Tavisianebad da sxvisiane-
bad hyofs da xleCs sazogadoebas, ivaniSvi-
li xazgasmiT ambobs, rom misTvis yvela Ta-
visiania, maT Soris isinic, romlebic mas
upirispirdebian, cils swameben, Seuracxyo-
fen.
xelisuflebisTvis gansxvavebuli azris
mqone adamiani mteria, romelic unda gala-
xo, gaanadguro, daiWiro, ivaniSvilisTvis
_ moyvare, romelsac, pirvel rigSi, Tanad-
gomiT, TanagrZnobiT, siyvaruliT unda moeq-
ce da Seecado, mcdari azri Seacvlevino.
es ori poziciaa, ori sxvadasxva msofl-
mxedvelobaa, aqedan erTi Rrmad qristianu-
lia, meore Rrmad antiqristianuli.
saqarTvelos amJamindeli xelisuflebis
tragedia isaa, rom am qristianuli qveynis
marTvas araqristianuli meTodebiT cdi-
lobs, es ki imis tolfasia, rom mTeli qvey-
nis mosaxleobas zne da xasiaTi Seucvalo,
suli Seucvalo, guli Seucvalo, ocdaaTsa-
ukunovan istorias xazi gadausva da _ ager,
2003 wlidan, iwyebi Sen, manamde ar yofil-
xaro, _ uTxra.
SecdomaSi Seyvanilni, nacdunebni, monus-
xulni da zombirebulni, adre Tu gvian,
aucileblad gamovlen am buranidan da auci-
leblad mixvdebian, rom adamianis cud Tvi-
sebaTagan yvelaze cudi da saTakilo Tvise-
ba siZulvilia, ara marto saTakilo, aramed
TviT im adamianisTvis yvelaze saSiSi da sa-
xifaTo, romelsac sZuls, radgan siZulvi-
li, pirvel rigSi, swored mas anadgurebs,
vinc siZulvilis demonur nebas emorCileba.
siZulvili TviTganadgurebaa, siyvaruli
_ xsna.
siZulvili hyofs da TiSavs, siyvaruli
_ aerTianebs...
vaxtang xarCilava
redaqtoris sveti
veTanxmebiT mosazrebas, rom sasamarTlos mier `a-
lia holdingisTvis~ 50 000 laris dakisreba fi-
nansuri teroris gziT mediis winaaRmdeg brZolis
axali xerxia.
rogorc `solidaroba mediis TavisuflebisTvis~
acxadebs, `am Tanxis gadaxda araTu finansur prob-
lemebs Seuqmnis holdings, aramed gazeTebi `alia~
da `qronika~ saerTod Sewyveten arsebobas.~
vfiqrobT, sasamarTlos mier holdingisTvis da-
kisrebuli jarima ufro politikuri gadawyvetilebaa, vidre faqtebze damyarebuli sa-
marTliani da miukerZoebeli sasamarTlo ganCineba.
`saerTo gazeTi~
„SesaZloa, maJoritarebis gadaadgileba an cvlileba ganvaxorcie-
loT,“- ganacxada „qarTuli ocnebis“ presspikerma maia fanjikiZem tra-
diciul brifingze.
misi TqmiT, maJoritarebis kandidatebis saboloo siis wardgena ar-
Cevnebamde 30 dRiT adre unda moxdes. Sesabamisad, am vadaSi SesaZloa,
rame gadaadgilebebi gakeTdes.
„Cven Zalian adre daviwyeT maJoritarebis gamocxadeba. muSaobis pro-
cesSi SesaZloa aRmoCndes, rom viRacebi ufro saWiro sxvagan arian. Se-
saZloa, romelime maJoritarma saarCevno siaSi gadainacvlos, an - pi-
riqiT. amaSi sagangaSos da skandalurs verafers vxedav,“- ganacxada maia
fanjikiZem.
koalicia „qarTuli ocnebis“
erT-erTi lideris kaxa kalaZis
gancxadebiT, qarTveli “samarTal-
damcavebis” nawili da “Tavisufa-
li mediis” warmomadgenlebi sru-
liad sxva saxis, maTTvis damaxasi-
aTebeli uniWo, magram, rac mTava-
ria binZuri, Savi piaris axal gi-
gantur talRas agoreben Cemze ara
rogorc koaliciis liderze, ara-
med rogorc pirovnebaze, adamian-
ze.
amis Sesaxeb kaxa kalaZem so-
cialur qsel „feisbukSi“ Tavis
gverdze ganacxada.
„Cemo megobrebo, dRevandeli
kriminaluri reJimis warmomadgen-
lebis uSret fantazias, sazRvari
ara aqvs. wlebis manZilze naciona-
luri arxebis, sodis da kudis er-
Toblivad ganxorcielebulma Savma
piarma ar imuSava da sazogadoeba
ver daajeres, rom var cudi,
uRirsi adamiani. Tumca qarTveli
“samarTaldamcavebis” nawili da
“Tavisufali mediis” warmomadgen-
lebi amas ar dajerdnen da axla
sruliad sxva saxis, maTTvis dama-
xasiaTebeli uniWo, magram rac
mTavaria binZuri, Savi piaris axal
gigantur talRas agoreben ara
rogorc koaliciis liderze, ara-
med rogorc pirovnebaze, adamian-
ze,“ _ aRniSna kalaZem.
vinc aRniSnuli avantiura da-
gegma an iRebs monawileobas, minda
vuTxra, rom arsebobs morali da
agreTve arsebobs kanoni, maT mou-
wevT am ori faqtoris gaTvalis-
wineba. SesaZloa dRes ara, magram
uaxloes momavalSi aucileblad.
_ ganacxada kalaZem.
koalicia “qarTuli ocneba”
kidev erTxel adasturebs Tavis
erTgulebas samarTliani da Ta-
visufali arCevnebis ZiriTadi
principebisadmi, maT Soris, sa-
arCevno kampaniisa da arCevnebis
Sedegebis dadgenis procesSi
Zaladobrivi da antikonstitu-
ciuri qmedebebis dauSveblobi-
sadmi. am suliskveTebidan ga-
momdinare, koalicia upirobod
SeuerTda samoqalaqo sazoga-
doebis mier 16 ivliss SemoTa-
vazebul 17 punqtian dokument-
sac da aiRo masSi mocemuli
principebisa da qcevis wesebis dacvis valdebule-
ba.
amasTanave, koalicia “qarTuli ocnebis” SeSfo-
Tebas iwvevs mmarTveli partiis mxridan aRniSnu-
li qcevis wesebis sistematuri
darRveva. kerZod, bolo dReeb-
Si aWaraSi kvlav dafiqsirda
xelisuflebis warmomadgenelTa
mxridan samoqalaqo dapirispi-
rebis gaRvivebisa da axalgazr-
debis danaSaulebriv qmedebaSi
CaTrevis mcdeloba.
mivmarTavT qarTul da saer-
TaSoriso sadamkvirveblo orga-
nizaciebs, droulad da srul-
yofilad Seiswavlon aRniSnuli
faqtebi da obieqturi Sefaseba
miscen momxdars. Cven mzad varT
viTanamSromloT yvela dainte-
resebul organizaciasTan da mivawodoT Cvens
xelT arsebuli sruli informacia aRniSnul mov-
lenebTan dakavSirebiT.
6 agvisto, 2012
koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~ gancxadeba
maia ffanjikiZe: SSesaZloa, mmaJoritarebis gadaadgileba aan ccvlileba gganvaxorcieloT
kaxa kkalaZe: `̀Tavisufali mmedia~ CCemze, rrogorcadamianze, SSavi ppiaris ggigantur ttalRas aagorebs
3#34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi
gadawyda _ 1 oqtomberi arCev-
nebis dRea!
guli migrZnobs, `nacmoZraoba-
sa~ da saakaSvilis garemocvaSi vi-
Rac-viRacebis Tavebi dagordeba.
vinc saakaSvils urCia, arCevne-
bi 1 oqtombers daniSneo, imaT Ta-
vebs vgulisxmob.
rogorc gairkva, 1 oqtobers bi-
Zina ColoyaSvilis xsenebis dRea,
anu biZinaobaa.
hoda, vinc saakaSvili Secdoma-
Si Seiyvana da arCevnebi 1 oqtom-
bers, biZinaobis dRes daaniSvnina,
imaTi saqme wasulia!
erTi wuTiT yuradReba moaduna
kacma da imwamsve Ziri gamouTxares;
aqamde yvelaferi cno-
bili mCxibavebis, magebis,
astrologebis mier zus-
tad gaTvlil TariRebze
iyo agebuli, axla ki am 1
oqtombriT yvelaferi da-
ingra da xuxulasaviT Ca-
moiSala.
_ ra eSveleba axla am
saqmes? _ bWoben `nacmoZ-
raobis~ StabSi.
_ ra eSveleba da gavauq-
moT es TariRi da arCevnebi
sxva dros davniSnoT, _ uT-
qvams erTs.
_ ar gamova es ambavi...
ras ityvis demokratiuli
Tanamegobroba? didi skanda-
li atydeba... _ uarze damd-
garan sxvebi.
_ ar gavkari demokrati-
ul Tanamegobrobas? ra
dros eg aris, ver xedavT,
viRupebiT? _ wamomxtara
`nacmoZraobis~ klei kakuna
boboqriZe da gamwarebuls
muStis erTi dartymiT, Zirs
daugdia nacebis piradi naTel-
mxilveli nasral nacariZe _
sul am nabiWvris bralia yve-
laferi, `paxmeliaze~ ricxvebi
auria erTmaneTSi da amitom
amovarda es wyeuli 1 oqtombe-
ri cxrilidan... davcxrilav ax-
la am ubedurs, _ ver SoSmin-
deboda boboqriZe da xels mar-
jvena ukanalze ifaTurebda _
aqaoda, pistoleti unda davaZ-
roo.
mokled rom vTqvaT, `nac-
moZraobaSi~ didi ayalmayali
da didi daka-dakaa.
SeiZleba arCevnebis dRe
marTla Seicvalos, an `nacmoZ-
raobam~ raRac moimizezos da
arCevnebs saerTod boikoti ga-
moucxados.
aba, ra qnan, 1 oqtombers,
biZinobaze, eseni biZina ivaniS-
vilisTvis arCevnebis momgebi
ar arian da Tavs xom ar Seir-
cxvenen sajarod?
_ erTi Samfuri (mwvadi), erTi pomido-
ri da erTi kitri TiToeul Cvens mxar-
damWers! _ aseTi deviziT Caatara qdm-m
amomrCevlebTan Sexvedra kaxeTSi.
Sexvedram didi warmatebiT Caiara _
drois umokles vadaSi aTvisebuli iqna
aTasobiT Samfuri, aTasobiT pomidori,
aTasobiT kitri, dailia ramdenime kasri
Rvino, gansxvavebuli sasmisebiT Seisva
`qdm~-s mamis (g.TargamaZe) qdm-s dedis
(i.grigolia) `qdm~-s ded-mamiSvilebis
(`nacmoZraoba~, `axlebi~, `edp-s~) `qdm~-s
biZaSvil-mamidaSvilebis (Sss, uSs) `qdm~-
s gare biZaSvilebis (`endiai~, `airai~)
sadRegrZeloebi.
rogorc `qdm~-s erT-erTma liderma ga-
nacxada, isini aseTive saxis RonisZiebebis
(koduri saxelwodebiT `sma-Wama didad
Sesargi~) gamarTvas apireben saqarTvelos sxva regioneb-
Sic, xolo arCevnebis dRes, 1 oqtombers, TiToeul sa-
arCevno ubanTan gaixsneba swrafi kvebis obieqti abriT _
`ufaso sma-Wama qdm-s mxardamWerebisTvis. danarCenebma
iocnebeT.~
Tu gaviTvaliswinebT im ambavs, rom saqarTvelos mo-
saxleobis did nawils (siRaribis zRvars qvemoT mcx-
ovrebi milionamde adamiani) mwvadis gemo wlebia ar ga-
usinjavs, mosalodnelia, rom qdm-m amomrCevelTa serio-
zuli raodenoba miizidos qedemur sufraze.
visi Tavebi dagordeba `nacmoZraobasa~ da
saakaSvilis garemocvaSi!
`sma-Wama didad Sesargi~
4 saerTo gazeTi #34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.
mogesalmebiT, Cemo baTumelebo! moge-
salmebi, Cemo aWara!
minda didi madloba gadagixadoT aq
SekrebisTvis.
mivesalmebi qedas, xulos, Suaxevs,
qobuleTs, xelvaCaurs, baTums!
mivesalmebi mTel saqarTvelos!
dRes Cven saqarTvelos karibWed
qcul miwaze vdagavarT, romelsac vin
mosTvlis ramdeni Wir-varami gadaxdenia
Tavs!
didi imperiebis WidilSi aWara yo-
velTvis samSoblos, saqarTvelos erT-
guli iyo; xSirad sakuTar qveyanas
mowyvetili, Cumad gulSi qarTvelobas
inaxavda da ucxoelebis qveSvevrdomobas
arasodes Sehguebia.
aq erovnul cnobierebas ise Rrmad
hqonda fesvebi gadgmuli, rom samSob-
los erTguleba da siyvaruli erTi
wuTiTac ar ganelebula.
ai, amitomaa, rom aq, aWaraSi, gansa-
kuTrebuli simZafriT igrZnoba qarTve-
loba, saqarTvelos siyvaruli da erT-
guleba!
aWara iseT drosac moeswro, rode-
sac saxelmwifo sazRvrebi ise gauvles,
rom erT sofelSi mosaxle Zmebidan er-
Ti saqarTveloSi darCa, meore ki sazR-
vris gadaRma aRmoCnda. isini simReriT
exmianebodnen da ise atyobinebdnen Tavis
saTqmels erTmaneTs. aWaram am gansac-
delsac Rirseulad gauZlo!
gansakuTrebulia am kuTxis Rvawli
Cveni qveynis, saqristiano da samusli-
mano saqarTvelos, mTlianobis SenarCu-
nebasa da saboloo gaerTianebaSi.
rodesac saqarTvelos mTlianoba iyo
gadasarCeni, aravin arCevda, vin iyo
qristiani da vin - muslimani.
me kargad vici, axla Tqvens gulSi
ra cecxlic trialebs. es cecxli saxi-
faToc aris da samarTlianic. swored
samarTlianobis gamoa is gansakuTrebu-
lad saSiSi. tyuilis, usamarTlobisa da
ukanonobis gamoa is danTebuli Tqvens
gulSi.
Tqven tyuilisgan Tavisufal, simar-
Tlesa da kanonierebaze aSenebul qveya-
nas imsaxurebT. da axla, saqarTveloSi
simarTlis, samarTlianobis dro modis!
arada, swored simarTles upirispir-
deba es xelisufleba da yvelgan tyu-
ils Tesavs. tyuili da ciliswameba ma-
Ti yvelaze sayvareli iaraRia. mec ram-
deni ram damabrales, rac politikaSi
Semovdgi fexi. isic ki damabrales, rom
me, Turme, sabWoTa kavSiri menatreba.
me kargad maxsovs sabWoTa kavSiri,
romelic sayovelTao, totaluri tyui-
lis imperia iyo - es iyo meqrTameobisa
da daxls qvemoT gadanaxuli sindisis
qveyana, qveyana, sadac kargad cxovreba
mxolod kompromisebs da gaiZverobas
mohqonda.
sabWouri azrovneba dRemde cocxa-
lia da sazogadoebis ganviTarebasac
swored es abrkolebs. diax, swored
tyuili, TvalTmaqcoba da farisevloba
iyo sabWoeTis namdvili, realuri ideo-
logia, romelic adamianebs aiZulebda,
erTi efiqraT, meore elaparakaT da me-
same ekeTebinaT.
nacionaluri xelisufleba gaWrili
vaSliviT hgavs Tavis sabWoTa winamor-
beds, ufro zustad, winapars.
daakvirdiT saakaSvils, daakvirdiT
saakaSvilis xelisuflebas da uzustes
msgavsebas ipoviT sabWoTa xelisufle-
basTan.
saakaSvili gaafTrebiT gahkivis
yvelgan, meti saqme ar maqvs, es qveyana
vinme sxvas gadavabaro da davangrevinoo.
me ar vici arc erTi sxva qveynis xe-
lisufleba, romelic ase daufaravad ga-
bedavda imis sajarod gacxadebas, rom
arsad ar apirebs wasvlas, ar apirebs
Tavisi nebiT xelisuflebis xalxisTvis
gadabarebas. me ar vici amis sajarod
mTqmeli arc erTi xelisufleba, sabWo-
Ta xelisuflebis garda.
Tavisi winapariviT am xelisuflebis
ideologiac tyuilzea agebuli, xolo
sabWouri meqrTameoba elitaruli ko-
rufciiT aris Canacvlebuli.
ori-sami kaci Tavisi neba-surviliT
gankargavs saxelmwifo biujets da ara
marto biujets. saakaSvilis, merabiSvi-
lis, adeiSvilis xelSia yvela safinan-
so nakadi, rac ki qveyanaSi trialebs.
ai, aseTi xelisufleba mdebs me
brals sabWouri cxovrebis nostalgia-
Si. arc es tyuili gauva, radgan yvelam
kargad icis, rom Cemi warmateba swored
iman ganapiroba, rom sabWoeTs moeRo bo-
lo.
es xelisufleba mdebs brals imaSi,
rom me ruseTis Semoyvana minda. ai, amas
mabralebs me xelisufleba da amas gah-
kivian mis mier dageSili adamianebi. mag-
ram swored am xelisuflebis meTaurma,
saakaSvilma, Tavis ugunuri politikiT,
ukve Semoiyvana rusis jari saqarTvelos
teritoriaze, da es rom asea, amis das-
turia Cveni okupirebuli teritoriebi,
iq mdgari ruseTis jari da asobiT da-
karguli qarTuli sofeli.
Cven davasrulebT saqarTveloSi
sabWoeTis epoqas, tyuilis epoqas! eli-
taruli korufciis epoqas! usamarTlo-
bisa da unamusobis epoqas! saqarTvelo-
Si patiosnebis dro modis!
Cvens qveyanas dRes bevri ram sWir-
deba, Tumca arc imdeni, rom misi welSi
gamarTva ver SevZloT. pirvel rigSi,
unda aRvadginoT wonasworoba, romelic
ukiduresad darRveulia dRes saqarTve-
los samarTlebriv, ekonomikur da soci-
alur cxovrebaSi.
Cemo qarTvelebo! yvelani vxedavT,
rom Cveni qveyana sadacaa Tavze dagveq-
ceva. gansakuTrebiT aSkaraa es safrTxe
aq, aWaraSi, da me mimaCnia, rom saqarT-
velos bedi dRes swored aq, aWaraSi, ba-
TumSi wydeba.
baTumi yovelTvis gansakuTrebuli
qalaqi iyo yvela CvenganisaTvis, gansa-
kuTrebuli kulturis mqone, baTums Ta-
viseburi suli da ganumeorebeli xib-
li hqonda. yvelas aseTi gviyvarda, Ta-
visi arqiteqturiT, Tavisi sisadaviT.
dasanania, rom udidesi Tanxa, rome-
lic xelisuflebam baTumSi axal mSeneb-
lobebze daxarja, sabolood, ara imde-
nad mosaxleobis keTildReobas emsaxu-
reba, ramdenadac erTi kacis komfortsa
da pativmoyvareobas.
gana ar SeiZleba aSeno ise, rom qa-
laqis mosaxleoba ar daazaralo, ar da-
aziano baTumis istoriuli ier-saxe da
ganumeorebeli koloriti, tlanqad ar
Caerio urbanul struqturaSi da pri-
mitiuli, ugemovno mimbaZvelobis maga-
liTebi ar dautovo STamomavlobas?! ga-
na ar SeiZleboda es saqme migvendo pro-
fesionalebisTvis da baTumi erTi kacis
ambiciebisa da fantaziebis poligonad
ar gadaqceuliyo?!
kargia, Tu sadme daigo gzebi, magram
wyalgayvaniloba da kanalizacia rom
kvlav mouwesrigebelia, wuxandelma wvi-
mamac dagvanaxa.
dasanania, rom ukontrolod daxar-
julma milionebma, romelic aseT gau-
azrebel da usistemo ganaSenianebas mox-
marda, mosaxleobas, TiToeul Tqvengans,
veranairi sargebeli ver moutana.
danaSaulia, rom saqarTvelos am uZ-
velesi da ulamazesi kuTxisaTvis xeli-
suflebam ver moifiqra sxva funqcia, ka-
zinoebisa da naxevrad legaluri saros-
kipoebis garda.
baTumSi, rogorc yvela zRvispira
qalaqSi, mravali erovnebisa da sarwmu-
noebis adamiani cxovrobs; asea ukve mra-
vali weli da ar yofila maT Soris arc
erTi dapirispireba, an Tundac sul mci-
re gaugebroba nacionalur an religiur
niadagze. Cven xom tolerantobas da me-
gobrobas veravin gvaswavlis.
megobrobis garda, Cven kargi mezob-
lobac viciT. TurqeTi Cveni mezobelia,
natos wevri qveyanaa. masTan Cven stra-
tegiuli partnioroba, keTilmezobluri
urTierToba gvakavSirebs. yvelas gvax-
sovs is sikeTe, romelic 90-iani wle-
bis dasawyisSi TurqeTTan sazRvris gax-
snam mogvitana.
am xelisuflebam, romelic Tavisi
Zalauflebisa da keTildReobisTvis
ukan araferze ixevs, gaugonari viTareba
Seqmna qveyanaSi, gansakuTrebiT ki, aWara-
Si. xelisufleba Tavisi moqalaqeebis mi-
marT aSkarad diskriminaciulad moqme-
debs.
investiciebis xelSewyoba Zalian
kargia, magram es araviTar SemTxvevaSi
ar unda xdebodes sakuTari moqalaqeebis
xarjze. arc erTi Tavmoyvare saxelmwi-
fo ase ar iqceva, arc dasavleTSi da
arc aRmosavleTSi.
samarcxvinoa nebismieri qveynisTvis,
rom misi maRalkvalificiuri moqalaqe-
ebi mezobel qveyanaSi lukma-purisTvis
gadaxvewilebi, maTTvis Seuferebel, Sav
samuSaos asruleben warmoudgenlad mci-
re anazRaurebis fasad.
magram, kidev ufro samarcxvinoa, ro-
desac Seni qveynis moqalaqeebi sruliad
daumsaxurebelad diskriminaciul mdgo-
mareobaSi arian aq, mSobliur miwaze!
Cven SevcvliT Sromis kodeqss ise,
rom arc erT damqiravebels aRar SeeZ-
los daqiravebulis uflebebis Selaxva.
Cven aRvadgenT samarTlebriv da ufleb-
riv wonasworobas damqiravebelsa da da-
qiravebuls Soris. veRaravin gabedavs
Cveni moqalaqis an stumris daCagvras da
Seuracxyofas! es damTavrdeba! amis
sityvas me gaZlevT!
me Tavidanve giTxariT, rom am ums-
gavsobas Cven usaTuod movuvliT, da
rac SeiZleba swrafad! gpirdebiT!
ucnauri qalaqia baTumi. baTumi wvi-
mas uyvars. aseve uyvars baTumi mTel sa-
qarTvelos... es arcaa gasakviri, saqarT-
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velo xom zRvispira qveyanaa.
xolo Savi yavis surneliT
mTvrali baTumi Cveni zRvispi-
reTis mTavari qalaqia. igi
cremlnarevi Rimilia saqarTve-
los pirisaxeze!
Tqven, baTumelebo, amayad da
Tavisuflad ivliT baTumis qu-
CebSi da Tqven iqnebiT am qala-
qis baton-patroni, da aravin
iqneba Tqveni metoqe wvimis
garda...
aqve vaxseneb kidev erT gau-
gebrobas, romelSic Tqven xe-
lisuflebam gagxviaT. xalxo,
Cven xom viciT, rom religiuri
Semwynarebloba qarTuli tra-
diciis erT-erTi saukeTeso da
uZvelesi nawilia.
viciT isic, rom aRmsareb-
lobis Tavisufleba xelSeuxebe-
li unda iyos samarTlian da de-
mokratiul saxelmwifoSi. ami-
tom mxolod unda gveamayebodes
is, rom qristianuli eklesiebis
gverdiT saqarTveloSi dRes
muslimanuri meCeTebi moqmedebs.
Cvens qveyanaSi qristianebma
da muslimanebma erTmaneTis
gverdiT Tanasworad da Rirse-
ulad unda icxovron. me vici,
rom Tqven ara morigi meCeTis
aSeneba gaSfoTebT, aramed Tqven
gaSfoTebT Cveni xelisfulebis
Zalian saeWvo nabijebi. Torem
ucxo qveynis miwaze mdebare
Zveli qarTuli xuroTmoZRvre-
bis Sedevrebs, Tu ra bedi ewe-
va, Cven, am xelisuflebisgan
gansxvavebiT, marTlac gvadar-
debs.
amitom gpirdebiT, rom roca
oqtomberSi arCevnebSi gavimar-
jvebT, dauyovneblad gamovark-
vevT da saaSkaraoze gamovitanT
yvelafers, rac am mtkivneul
da saCoTiro sakiTxTanaa dakav-
Sirebuli. Semdeg ki TqvenTan
erTad gadavwyvetT saqmes ise,
rom Cvens istoriul saganZur-
sac miexedos da arc Cveni mo-
qalaqeebis realuri da kanonie-
ri moTxovnebi darCes ugule-
belyofili.
Cemo megobrebo!
oficialuri monacemebiT
2003 wlidan dRemde saqarTve-
loSi rva-naxevari miliardi
dolaris pirdapiri ucxouri
investicia ganxorcielda. es
cota ar aris CvenisTana qvey-
nisTvis.
am investicias, wesiT da ka-
noniT, sul mcire 170 aTasi
axali samuSao adgili unda Se-
eqmna 170 aTasi Cveni moqalaqis-
Tvis. daujerebelia, magram pi-
riqiT moxda!
xalxo, Turme, dRes saqarT-
veloSi, sajaro, oficialuri
monacemebiT, 150 aTasi adamianiT
naklebia dasaqmebuli, 150 aTasi
adamianiT naklebs aqvs samuSao
da samsaxuri, vidre 2003 wlis
miwuruls!
aseTi sagangaSo viTareba ki
mxolod imitom Seiqmna, rom sa-
akaSvilis xelisufleba Semo-
sul miliardebs ar moixmars
daniSnulebis mixedviT. am Tan-
xis didi nawili elitaruli
korufciis wyaro xdeba.
Cven pirobas gaZlevT, rom
SevqmniT iseT biznesgaremos,
romelic realurad mimzidvels
gaxdis saqarTvelos ucxoeli
investorebisTvis da investici-
ebi erTi kacis axirebas ki ar
moxmardeba, aramed Tanabrad da
Wkvianurad ganawildeba, raTa
Seiqmnas, rac SeiZleba meti re-
aluri samuSao adgili.
Cven xels SevuwyobT iseTi
axali sawarmoebis gaxsnas, sa-
dac dasaqmebuli adamianebi pa-
tiosani SromiT SeZleben Rir-
seulad cxovrebas.
xalxno, saqarTvelo zRvis-
pira saxelmwifoa da aseT bu-
nebriv resursebs nebismieri
qveyana gonivrulad gamoiyenebda
ekonomikis ganviTarebisTvis.
Cvens qveyanasac hqonda
sazRvao floti, marTalia, arc
ise kargi, magram SeiZleboda
misi gaumjobeseba da reformi-
reba.
am xelisuflebam moaxerxa
da nacvlad imisa, rom mdgoma-
reoba gamoesworebina, mTlianad
wyals gaatana qarTuli sanaos-
no.
15 gemi gaasxvisa mizerul
fasad - 90 milion dolarad,
maSin roca myidvelma kompaniam
am gemebidan 2 gemi erTi wlis
Semdeg 80 milion dolarad ga-
yida. anu saxelmwifom TiTqmis
mTeli floti - 15 gemi - mxo-
lod 2 gemis fasad gayida.
Cvens mezRvaurebs araferi
SeexebaTo, gvpirdeboda xeli-
sufleba da amis sabuTad mezR-
vaurTa dasaqmebis 12-wliani
valdebuleba mohqonda.
magram ise moxda, rom kompa-
nia 5 weliwadSi gakotrda da
yvela iq momuSave adamiani usam-
saxurod darCa.
garda imisa, rom xelisuf-
leba ar dainteresebula Tavisi
moqalaqeebis bediT, Cvens qveya-
nas flotis gareSe darCenis
safrTxe emuqreba. ase eqceva sa-
akaSvilis xelisufleba Tavis
xalxsa da qveyanas.
Cven viciT, rom mezRvauroba
baTumelebisTvis prestiJul,
saamayo, da amave dros Semosav-
lian profesiad iTvleba, rad-
gan zRvaosnobas aq didi tradi-
cia aqvs. qarTvel mezRvaurebs
ucxoeTSi yovelTvis kargi sa-
xeli hqondaT.
Cven, „qarTuli ocneba“,
aucileblad aRvadgenT naosno-
bis tradicias, flotis gadar-
CeniTa da ganviTarebiT gaCndeba
aseulobiT samuSao adgili da
bevri Cveni moqalaqe daibrunebs
Tavis profesias.
umuSevroba rom mZvinvarebs,
sofeli rom misaxedia, da ada-
mianis janmrTeloba rom mTava-
ria, amaze mxolod axla, arCev-
nebis win alaparakda xelisuf-
leba.
Turme aqamde saxelmwifos
aSenebdnen da amitom ar ecalaT
TqvenTvis, Turme saxelmwifos
mSenebloba adamianze zrunvas
gamoricxavs.
ase utifrad gvatyueben,
magram Cvens xalxs moTminebis
fiala ukve aevso. swored amas
daadasturebs xalxi arCevnebze,
1-el oqtombers daadasturebs,
rom tyuils simarTle urCevnia
da gaWirvebas - keTildReoba! me
mjera amis, me mjera Cveni xal-
xis da amitom movedi politi-
kaSi!
qveynis welSi gatexva, qvey-
nis waqcevis piramde miyvana am
xelisuflebam, pirvel rigSi,
soflis meurneobis sruli
ugulebelyofiT moaxerxa. aba
sxva ra SeiZleba uwodo, pirda-
pir vityvi - im avkacobas, ro-
melic xelisuflebam qarTuli
soflis mimarT Caidina.
soflebSi ar aris gza, ar
aris sasmeli wyali, ar aris ga-
zi. glexs ar gaaCnia Sromis
saTanado iaraRi da, Sesabamisad,
ukidures gaWirvebaSi uwevs
cxovreba.
aWaraSi Semosavlis erT-er-
Ti ZiriTadi wyaro citrusia.
Tqven Tavdauzogavad SromobT,
magram am Sromis Sesatyvisi Se-
mosavali ar gaqvT. Cven davkar-
geT gasaRebis bazari da arafe-
ri viRoneT imisTvis, rom axa-
li bazari gamogvenaxa.
aWaraSi citrusis mosavali
gausaRebeli rCeba, an iseT fa-
sad iyideba, transportirebis
xarjsac rom ver anazRaurebs.
Cven gamovnaxavT axal baz-
rebs da rusul bazarsac davib-
runebT.
soflebSi glexebis umete-
soba gaRatakda da amitom yvela
gaqcevazea. ucxoeTSi gadadian
da iq muSaoben kapikebad, raTa
ojaxi rogorme gamokvebon.
ai, am dReSi Caagdo xeli-
suflebam Cveni amayi xalxi, ase
daabeCava! kacs Tavisi nayofieri
miwa-wyali mouvleli aqvs da
ucxoeTSi lamis ymad udgeba
damqiravebels. es unda Sewydes!
Cven davasrulebT aseT yofas!
swored amitom, „qarTul
ocnebas“ dagegmili aqvs aaRor-
Zinos qarTuli sofeli da ami-
saTvis Seqmnas erTmiliardiani
fondi
Cven SevcvliT axlandel
politikas da qarTul sofels
mis mTavar funqcias davubru-
nebT - sofelma qveyana unda ga-
mokvebos. qarTul bazarze dab-
rundeba Cvens miwaze moyvanili
mosavali.
Cven xels SevuwyobT xulo-
Si, Suaxevsa da qedaSi iseTi
tradiciuli dargebis aRorZi-
nebas, rogoricaa meTambaqoeoba,
mefutkreoba, mexileoba da me-
saqonleoba.
xelisuflebis danaSauleb-
rivi politikis gamo zRvis qve-
yanaSi Tevzis rewva Cveni moqa-
laqeebisTvis xelmiuwvdomelia.
dRes es dargi mTlianad mono-
polizebulia.
Cven davamyarebT samarTlian
da konkurentul garemos, ri-
Tac xels SevuwyobT am momgebi-
ani dargis ganviTarebas, srul
cikls avawyobT Tevzis Weridan
mis saboloo gadamuSavebamde da
amiT Seiqmneba realuri samuSao
adgilebi.
ekologiurad sufTa pro-
duqtze axla mTel msoflioSi
udidesi moTxovnilebaa. amitom
Cven davnergavT Tanamedrove
teqnologiebs da Cveni sursa-
TiT ucxour bazarzec Tamamad
da warmatebiT gavalT.
Cven gvjera da gpirdebiT,
rom soflis meurneobis aRor-
Zineba Svebas moutans yovel
adamians, yovel ojaxs, Seiqmne-
ba gadammuSavebeli sawarmoebi
da gaCndeba aTeulobiT aTasi
samuSao adgili.
erT Cems Sexedulebas mo-
gaxsenebT, romelsac, imedi
maqvs, umravlesoba iziarebs. Tu
marTlac ganviTarebul da ara
CamorCenil qveynad gvinda Ca-
movyalibdeT, Cven unda Sevqm-
naT da ganvaviTaroT umaRlesi
rangis saganmanaTleblo dawese-
bulebebi, skolebi, institute-
bi da universitetebi, da, amas-
Tanave, mowinave teqnologiebiT
aRWurvili sawarmoebi, sadac
Tqven da Tqveni Svilebi siamov-
nebiT imuSavebT.
Cven xom swored am, 21-e, sa-
ukuneSi vapirebT Rirseuli
adgilis mopovebas da damkvid-
rebas.
gaxsovT albaT, amas winaT,
baTumelebs saakaSvili evropa-
Si yvelaze maRal - 40-sarTu-
lian universitets dahpirda -
35-e sarTulze eSmakis borb-
liT, kafe-barebiT da biblio-
TekiT. telekamerebis win spe-
cialurad Seqmnili dekoracii-
dan axalgazrdebs mouwoda, ya-
vis WiqiT da wigniT eSmakis
borbalze mokalaTebulebma ime-
cadineTo.
ai, ase dascinis saakaSvili
axalgazrdebs, romelTa umrav-
lesobisTvis umaRlesi ganaTle-
bis miReba finansurad miuwvdo-
melia, mraval students ki
studentis statusi aqvs SeCe-
rebuli, radgan gadasaxadebs
ver ixdis.
saakaSvils ise uWiravs Ta-
vi, TiTqos baTumSi ar iyo, xe-
lisufleba rom daeria baTumis
universitetis studentebs,
roca auditoriebSi cremlsade-
ni gazi gauSves.
2007 wlis 8 noembridan uk-
ve 5 weli gadis, magram am
axalgazrdebisTvis bodiSic ki
aravis mouxdia, viTomc araferi
momxdara, da axla eSmakis bor-
bliT undaT Tavbru daaxvion.
Cven ganaTleba erT-erT mTa-
var prioritetad gvaqvs ga-
mocxadebuli. am xelisuflebam
bevr sofelSi daxura skola da
sabavSvo baRi, es gansakuTrebiT
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6 saerTo gazeTi #34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.
mwvaved maRalmTian raionebSi
igrZnoba.
Cven yvela sofelSi aRvad-
genT skolas, yvela bavSvs mie-
cema ganaTlebis miRebis saSu-
aleba da aRar mouwevT skolam-
de sofel-sofeli siaruli.
mSoblebs ki aRar gauWirdebaT
saxelmZRvaneloebis SeZena.
dRes yvelaze uuflobo da
damcirebuli maswavleblebi
arian. garda imisa, rom maTgan
xelisufleba, arCevnebSi Tavisi
politikuri miznebis misaRwe-
vad, srul morCilebas da msa-
xurebas moiTxovs, maTi ufro-
sia yvela - saministro, direq-
tori, mandaturi, da xSirad,
mSobelic ki. maswavleblis av-
toriteti mTlianad daknine-
bulia.
maswavleblebo, qeds vixri
Tqven winaSe. Tqvenma umravle-
sobam mainc moaxerxa da am mZi-
me dros araferi daiSura, raTa
saTanado codna mieca bavSvebis-
Tvis. magram maswavleblis
upirvelesi daniSnuleba xom
isaa, rom Tavisufali pirovneba
aRzardos, Tavisufali moqala-
qeebi aRuzardos Tavisufal
qveyanas.
dRevandeli xelisufleba ki
Tqvengan sxvas moiTxovs - mor-
Cilebas! daSinebuli maswavle-
beli Tavisufal moqalaqes
ver aRzrdis. maswavleblebo,
SeasruleT Tqveni mTavari mo-
valeoba da nuRar CaudgebiT
xelisuflebas damamcirebel
samsaxurSi, nu miscemT arCevne-
bis gayalbebaSi Tqveni gamoyene-
bis saSualebas, nu miscemT uf-
lebas Tqvenze ibatonos!!! mas-
waleblebo, gaTavisufldiT!
Cven dagicavT, dagicavT yve-
las, TiToeul Tqvengans. nu Se-
geSindebaT! Tqveni sindisis kar-
naxs mihyeviT da aCveneT Tqvens
moswavleebs, rom Tavisufleba
da Rirseba umTavresia adamianis
cxovrebaSi!
dameTanxmebiT, rom jandac-
vis saqme Tu ar mogvarda, aRa-
rafers azri ar eqneba.
yvelam viciT, ra mZime mdgo-
mareobaa am mxriv. Tumca saakaS-
vili speqtaklebs dgams da sa-
avadmyofoebs sazeimod xsnis.
CaqvSic xom gaxsna aseTi saavad-
myofo, romelsac, rogorc aR-
moCnda, am dromde ara aqvs li-
cenzia da verc erT pacients
ver iRebs. baTumSi gadayvanisas
ki araerTi avadmyofi gzaSi
gardaecvalaT. es unda damTav-
rdes!
Cven namdvilad vizrunebT
yvela moqalaqis janmrTeloba-
ze. saxelmwifo aiRebs Tavis
Tavze valdebulebas da yoveli
moqalaqis janmrTelobas dai-
cavs. oqtomberSi, saparlamen-
to arCevnebSi Cveni gamarjvebis
Semdeg, saqarTvelos yovel mo-
qalaqes eqneba janmrTelobis
dazRvevis polisi!
Cven mivxedavT Tqvens jan-
dacvas!
Sua zafxulSi, Tanac aWara-
Si, aucileblad unda Sevexo
TqvenTvis uaRresad mniSvnelo-
van - turizmis Temas.
turizmi aWaris mosaxleo-
bis Semosavlis mniSvnelovani
wyaroa.
ramdenime wlis win sanapiro
zolSi mcxovrebi mosaxleoba
endo xelisuflebas da daije-
ra, rom saqarTveloSi miliono-
biT turisti Camovidoda. adami-
anebma kerZo sastumroebisa da
turistuli infrastruqturis
mosawyobad bankebidan maSinve
aiRes sesxi, romlisTvisac ipo-
TekiT datvirTes TavianTi sax-
lebi.
dRes aq, albaT, isinic ari-
an, vinc am sferoSi xelisuf-
lebis ugunuri, zerele poli-
tikis gamo umZimes mdgomareoba-
Si aRmoCndnen. rogorc yovelT-
vis, xelisuflebam, maSinac mo-
atyua xalxi. milionobiT tu-
risti arsad Canda, da Cveni mo-
qalaqeebic male mevale bankebis
pirispir darCnen. ipoTekiT
datvirTuli maSindeli sesxe-
bis gamo bevrma ukve dakarga
saxl-kari, bevrsac axla emuq-
reba saxlebidan gamoyra.
Cven swori ekonomikuri po-
litikiT, namdvilad SevZlebT
imas, rom sabanko procenti
mkveTrad Semcirdeba, Sesabami-
sad, adamianebs kidev eqnebaT
Sansi, raTa xeli mihyon pers-
peqtiul bizness, romelic maT
saSualebas miscems bankTanac
gaasworon angariSi, biznesic
ganaviTaron da damoukidebeli,
Rirseuli cxovrebis saSuale-
bac moipovon.
Cven, „qarTuli ocneba“, xe-
lisuflebaSi mosvlis Semdeg,
aucileblad SevuwyobT xels
turizmis materialuri bazis
gaumjobesebas da aucileblad
davexmarebiT Cvens moqalaqeebs
momsaxurebis xarisxis amaRle-
baSi.
ra Tqma unda, zRvis sezoni
saqarTveloSi 12-Tviani vera-
sodes iqneba, magram istoriisa
da kulturis Zeglebi da buneb-
rivi landSafti imis SesaZleb-
lobas namdvilad iZleva, rom
sworad warmarTuli turizmi
ara marto zafxulis 2 Tvis,
aramed mTeli wlis ganmavloba-
Si xalxis da saxelmwifos Se-
mosavlis erT-erTi mniSvnelo-
vani wyaro iyos.
aWaraSi miwis mflobelobis
sakiTxi rom mosagvarebelia, am
xelisuflebas marto arCevnebis
win axsendeba. winasaarCevnod
xalxs guluxvad urigebs mi-
webs sakuTrebaSi, xolo, ro-
gorc ki arCevnebi Caivlis, -
utifrad arTmevs.
axlac daiwyes miwebis Camo-
rigeba, magram am ankess ukve
aRaravin wamoegeba. Cven movalT
xelisuflebaSi da miwis samar-
Tlian reformas CavatarebT. er-
Txel da samudamod miwa dauka-
nondeba Cvens moqalaqeebs da
maT sakuTrebas veRaravin Seexe-
ba. xelisufleba mdinare Wo-
roxze, maWaxelasa da aWaris-
wyalze giganturi hesebis mSe-
neblobas gegmavs da es gadawy-
vetilebac iseve naCqarevad da
gauazreblad aqvs miRebuli,
rogorc saerTod sCvevia.
hesebis mSeneblobis winaaRm-
degi aravinaa, magram es mosax-
leobam specialistebTan erTad
unda gadawyvitos, radgan aseTi
hesebis mSeneblobas uamravi
problema da riski sdevs Tan,
iqneba es ekologiuri Tu mig-
raciuli.
ekologiuri viTareba mTian
aWaraSi uamisodac umZimesia.
sul ufro izrdeba ekomigrant-
Ta raodenoba, romelTa beds
xelisufleba ise saxeldaxe-
lod da naucbaTevad wyvets, az-
radac ar mosdis, rom adamiane-
bi ki ar unda mowyvitos saku-
Tar fesvebs da gadaasaxlos,
aramed mSobliur kuTxeSi daa-
saxlos.
Cven yvelafers viRonebT da
gamovnaxavT saSualebas, rom
aWaris mkvidri aWaraSive dar-
Ces. me amas gpirdebiT!!!
dRes erTi adamiani wyvets
yvelafers Cveni qveyanis yvela
sofelSi, yvela qalaqSi, yvela
regionSi, avtonomiur respub-
likaSic ki. adgilobrivi xeli-
suflebis warmomadgenlebi yve-
lgan erTi kacis - saakaSvilis
survilebs emorCilebian da mi-
si axirebebis usityvo Semsru-
leblebi arian.
Cven, „qarTuli ocneba“,
gpirdebiT Tqven, aWaris mkvidr-
no, rom Tqven Tbilisidan veRa-
ravin mogaxvevT Tavs Tavis ne-
ba-survils, Tqven Tavad gadawy-
vetT yvela sakiTxs Tqvensave
qalaqSi, raionSi, sofelSi. Cven
amas gpirdebiT!
axla minda Sevexo jarimebis
Temas. vici, rom bevr Cvens moqa-
laqes dakisrebuli jarimebi
did Tavsatexad eqca. es xeli-
sufleba sul imas gvayvedris,
rom evropul standartebs varT
miaxloebuli. am SemTxvevaSi da-
veTanxmebi maT, diax, rac namdvi-
lad evropuli gvaqvs, es gadasa-
xadebi da jarimebia. magram, vis
sTxoven aseT gadasaxadebs da
jarimebs? sTxoven im mosaxleo-
bas, romelic ugunuri da mta-
cebluri politikiT gaaRatakes
da welSi gatexes, uzomod did
jarimebs axdevineben adami-
ans, romelic diliT lukma-
puris saSovnelad gamosu-
li, saRamos xSirad xelca-
rieli da sasowarkveTili
brundeba Sin.
metic, adamians imis sa-
Sulebac ki mouspes, rom,
Tu dakisrebuli jarima
usamarTlod miaCnia, sasa-
marTloSi gaasaCivros. ga-
saCivreba momCivans kidev
ufro Zviri ujdeba. ara-
fers vambob imaze, rom sa-
marTlis povnis imedi ukve
aRaravis aqvs.
xSirad adamiani drou-
lad ver ixdis jarimas, amitom
jarimas gadauxdelobis procen-
tebi emateba da sabolood
iseT Tanxas aRwevs, saxl-karis
gayidvac aRar Svelis saqmes.
aRarafers vambob im jarimebze,
romlebic Cvens mxardamWerebs
daakisres am ramdenime dRis
win. es absurdi unda damTavr-
des!
Cven saswauls ver movax-
denT, magram davamyarebT samar-
Tlianobas jarimebsa da ga-
daxdis realur SesaZleblobas
Soris. samarTlianobis aRdge-
nas daviwyebT xelisuflebaSi
mosvlis pirvelive dReebidan,
gpirdebiT!
Cven pensiebsac gadavxedavT
da saarsebo minimumsac da es
cifrebi xalxis sasargeblod
Seicvleba.
Cven yvela danapirebs Sevas-
rulebT, sityvas gaZlevT!
bolos minda Sevexo im sti-
qiur ubedurebas, romelic am
ramdenime dRis win daatyda
Tavs kaxeTs, samcxe-javaxeTsa
da mcxeTa-mTianeTs.
me mindoda davxmarebodi
Cems xalxs, magram rogorc
iciT, am xelisuflebam yvela
gza momiWra adamianebis daxma-
rebisTvis. arada, axla xalxs
realuri da saswrafo daxmare-
ba sWirdeba.
amitom me gamovnaxe kanonie-
ri gza dazaralebulTa daxma-
rebisTvis. is mravalmilioniani
jarima, romelic saxelmwifom
ukanonod damakisra - 80 mili-
oni lari - gadavricxe stiqiis
Sedegad dazaralebuli mosax-
leobis dasaxmareblad.
Cven SevamowmebT xelisuf-
lebis yvela nabijs, aRvwerT
zarals da vpirdebiT yvelas,
rom Cveni xelisuflebaSi mos-
vlis Semdeg arc erTi adamiani
ar darCeba realuri daxmarebis
gareSe.
Semodgomidan Cven viqnebiT
is xelisufleba, romelic rea-
lurad izrunebs xalxze, saq-
mes gaakeTebs da arafers daay-
vedrebs Tavis moqalaqeebs,
radgan Cven kargad gvaqvs gaaz-
rebuli, rom xelisufleba
xalxs unda emsaxuros da ara -
xalxi xelisuflebas.
Cveni xelisufleba ise
icxovrebs, rogorc Cveni xal-
xi cxovrobs, me amas gpirdebiT!
erTxel da samudamod damTavr-
deba gaTavxedebuli Cinovnike-
bis TareSi, xelisuflebaSi
yofna udidesi pasuxismgebloba
iqneba da ara TanamdebobiTa da
ZalauflebiT tkboba! me amas
gpirdebiT, da sityvas gaZlevT
, rom SevZlebT!
me da Tqven erTad SevZlebT
da, Rirsebas davubrunebT Cvens
qveyanas!!!
Rirsebas davubrunebT Cvens
xalxs!!!
Cveni qveyana Tavs daaRwevs
gaWirvebas!!!
iseT qveyanas avaSenebT, sa-
dac aravis dasWirdeba lukma-
puris saSovnelad samSoblodan
gadaxvewa.
saqarTveloSi daculi iqne-
ba adamianis yvela ufleba, az-
risa da sityvis Tavisufleba;
sasamarTlo iqneba samarTliani,
media - damoukidebeli, biznesi
- xelSeuxebeli!
iseT qveyanas avaSenebT, sa-
dac Cvens saamayo jariskacebsa
da policielebs miecemaT imis
SesaZlebloba, rom Rirseulad
emsaxuron saxelmwifos da ara
romelime xelisufals!!!
Tavisufal saqarTveloSi
Tavisufali xalxi icxovrebs,
romelsac aRar eqneba politi-
kuri devnis SiSi! me amas gpir-
debiT!!!
qarTvelebi, osebi, afxazebi,
ebraelebi, azerbaijanelebi, so-
mxebi, rusebi, berZenebi da
sxvebi iseT qveyanas avaSenebT,
romelic samSoblo iqneba yve-
lasTvis!
saqarTvelo gaxdeba Tavisu-
fali, demokratiuli qveyana,
evropuli Tanamegobrobis Rir-
seuli wevri!
me da Tqven erTad, SevZlebT
da, arCevnebiT SevcvliT am xe-
lisuflebas!!!
da amas yvelafers Tqven
SeZlebT, me da Tqven erTad
SevZlebT, da win Cven veraferi
dagvidgeba! Zala Cvens erToba-
Sia!!!
am brZolaSi Cven erTmaneTs
vWirdebiT! mxolod erTad dgo-
miT movigebT am brZolas!
Cven gvwams da mtkiced gv-
jera, rom gavimarjvebT arCev-
nebSi, qarTveli xalxi gaimarj-
vebs, saqarTvelo gaimarjvebs,
Cven erTad SevqmniT ukeTes mo-
mavals da erTad avisrulebT
qarTul ocnebas!
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
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iirrmmaa iinnaaSSvviilliiss iinntteerrvviiuu
biZina ivaniSvilTan
- aaxxlloovvddeebbaa aarrCCeevvnneebbii.. xxee-
lliissuufflleebbaamm aaiirrCCiiaa CCvveeuullii mmee-
TTooddii - ZZaallaaddoobbaa.. ssaammwwuuxxaarrooaa,,
rroomm JJuurrnnaalliisstteebbiissaaggaann iiqqmmnneebbaa
zzoonnddeerrbbrriiggaaddeebbii.. rraacc ttrraaggee-
ddiiaaaa CCvveennii qqvveeyynniissTTvviiss.. rrooggoo-
rriiaa TTqqvveennii ttaaqqttiikkaa aamm ssiittuuaa-
cciiaaSSii ddaa kkmmaayyooffiillii xxaarrTT TTuu
aarraa iimm ggzziiTT,, rroommeelliicc TTqqvveenn
ggaaqqvvTT aarrCCeeuullii??
- Tu Tval-yurs adevneb-
diT, sxvaoba Cvensa da „nacio-
naluri moZraobis“ ideologi-
as Soris kargad gamoikveTa
mestiis Sexvedris dros. sxva-
oba, Tu rogoria saakaSvilis
ideologia da rogorebi varT
Cven, kargad gamoCnda mestiaSi,
rodesac oficialurad vxsni-
diT Stabs. Stabis win Sekre-
bili Cveni momxreebis para-
lelurad Sekrebilni iyvnen
nacionalebis mier sxvadasxva
regionidan amoyvanili xalxi.
aq kargad gamoCnda erTi adami-
anis, saakaSvilis Zaladobrivi
ideologia. Cveni erT-erT sa-
nimuSo Sekreba svaneTSi iyo.
svanebma, aseTi istoriis mqone,
Zlierma zorba xalxma, moaxer-
xes TavdaWeriloba, miuxedavad
imisa, rom Zalian gaRiziane-
bulebi iyvnen. rogor dinjad,
kargad iqceodnen svanebi, es
ficxi da mebrZoli xalxi. Se-
uracxyofa aravisTvis migviye-
nebia, vambobdiT, rom isini
Cveni Zmebi arian. swored am
saqcieliT gamoCnda kontras-
ti. Zalian kargad Canda ori –
Cveni koaliciisa da naciona-
luri moZraobis saxe.
-bbaattoonnoo bbiiZZiinnaa,, xxeelliissuuff-
lleebbaa ggaaddaannaaSSaauulleebbTT,, rroomm „„iinn-
ffoo-99““ ddaa TTqqvveenn eerrTTnnii xxaarrTT,,
rreeaalluurraadd rrooggoorr aarriiss,, gguullww-
rrffeellaadd rroomm mmiippaassuuxxooTT??
-mogexsenebaT, Cem meuRles
aqvs iq aqciebis 70%, magram
Cven ar vereviT satelevizio
da saredaqcio politikaSi. an
raSi unda Candes me-9 arxis
araobieqturoba?! Cvens mowi-
naaRmdegeebs Zalian unda ise
warmoaCinon, rom arsebobs sa-
xelisuflebo arxebi, magram
arsebobs ramdenime televizia,
romelic opoziciuria da mxo-
lod opozicias uWers mxars.
es sicruea, arc „maestro“,
arc „kavkasia“ , arc „me-9 ar-
xi“ da arc Tqveni televizia
ar warmoadgens mxolod opo-
ziciur televizias. me Tqven
obieqtur televiziebs giwo-
debT.
-TTuummccaa TTaavviiss ddrroozzee TTqqvveenn
rraammddeenniimmee,, ddaammoouukkiiddeebbeellii ttee-
lleekkoommppaanniiaa ggaaaakkrriittiikkeeTT.. ppoollii-
ttiikkuurrii ZZaalleebbiicc,, rroommeellTTaacc
uuwwooddeeTT ffsseevvddooooppoozziicciiuurrii ZZaa-
lleebbii.. rrooggoorr mmooxxddaa,, rroomm SSeemm-
ddeegg eess aaddaammiiaanneebbii aaRRmmooCCnnddnneenn
TTqqvveennss ggvveerrddiiTT,, rraa mmooxxddaa
TTqqvveennSSii SSeeiiccvvaallaa rraammee TTuu mmaaTT-
SSii??
-cota orive mxare Sevicva-
leT. mec ufro msubuqad Sev-
xede procesebs da maTSic, ox-
da garkveuli koreqtivebi.
Cems mier „maestrosa“ da „kav-
kasiis“ misamarTiT gamoTqmuli
sayvedurebi erosi kiwmariSvi-
lis faqtoriT iyo ganpirobe-
buli. „obieqtivs“, „mecxre
arxs“, „maestrosa“ da „kavka-
sias“ ara opoziciur, aramed
obieqtur televiziebs giwo-
debT. rodesac sayvedurs ga-
movTqvamdi „maestros“ an „kav-
kasiis“ misamarTiT, orive Sem-
TxvevaSi, erosi kiwmariSvilis
gvari mqonda dasaxelebuli.
kiwmariSvilis mier „maest-
ros“ kurireba, bevr kiTxvebs
tovebda. erosis ar vendobi.
misi yofniT am televiziebs
obieqturoba ekargebodaT. mad-
loba RmerTs, erosi aRaraa,
moaxerxes da CamoiSores.
-bbaattoonnoo bbiiZZiinnaa,, TTqqvveenn bbrrZZaa-
nneebbTT,, rroomm SSeeiiccvvaallaa rraaRRaacc
TTqqvveennSSiicc ddaa mmaaTTSSiicc,, mmee ppiirraa-
ddaadd uuffrroo mmoommwwoonnddaa TTqqvveennii
ttoonnii - mmxxiilleebbiiss ttoonnii,, xxaallxxiiss
gguullTTaann mmiiaaxxllooeebbuullii......
-es toni dResac ar damikar-
gavs. Tuki raime iqneba samxile-
beli, me arc axla davixev ukan.
- TTqqvveenn ggaannaaccxxaaddeeTT,, rroomm aarr
ggaaddaaiixxddiiddiiTT iimm aabbssuurrdduull ddaa
uukkaannoonnoo jjaarriimmaass,, mmaaggrraamm mmooxxddaa
iissee,, rroomm eess jjaarriimmaa ggaaddaaiixxaaddeeTT..
mmoottiivvii aabbssoolluuttuurraadd ggaassaaggeebbiiaa
- ssttiiqqiiuurrii uubbeedduurreebbaa kkaaxxeeTTSSii..
TTuummccaa TTqqvveenn xxaazzss aarr uussvvaammTT,,
rroomm jjaarriimmaa ggaaddaauuxxaaddeeTT ssaaxxeell-
mmwwiiffooss ddaa aammbboobbTT,, rroomm ddaaxxmmaa-
rreebbaa ggaauuwwiieeTT aamm TTaannxxiiTT mmoossaaxx-
lleeoobbaass.. xxeelliissuufflleebbaa aammbboobbss,,
rroomm eess aarriiss jjaarriimmaa.. aarrsseebboobbss
mmoossaazzrreebbaa,, rroomm aamm TTaannxxaamm wwaaaa-
xxaalliissaa rreeJJiimmii,, mmaaTT mmiiaaCCnniiaaTT,,
rroomm yyvveellaa kkaapprriizzii ggaassddiiss.. rroo-
ddeessaacc TTqqvveenn aamm TTaannxxaass iixxddiiddiiTT,,
TTqqvveennii mmTTaavvaarrii mmoottiivvii rraa iiyyoo??
-rodesac politikaSi mo-
dixar, garkveuli TamaSis uf-
lebas aZlev sakuTar Tavs.
Tumca sakuTari moralisa da
sindisis winaaRmdeg ar unda
waxvide. me, ra Tqma unda, anga-
riSs vuwev im did miznebs,
rac Cven davisaxeT, magram ar-
c erT SemTxvevaSi Cemi saxe ar
damikargavs. vfiqrob, rom ab-
soluturad Tanmimdevruli
viyavi 80 milionTan dakavSire-
biT.
yovelTvis vambobdi, rom
ar wavidodi kanonis winaaRm-
deg, yovelTvis vixdidi dakis-
rebul jarimebs. magram axla
geometriuli progresiiT da-
iwyes Tanxis gazrda da albaT,
raRac etapze momiwevs gaCere-
ba da uaris Tqma.
politikaSi myofi adamianis
naklebad sjeraT, Tanac rode-
sac arCevnebi karzea momdga-
ri, naklebad sarwmunoa misi
sityvebi, magram gulwrfelad
geubnebiT, es ar iyo CemTvis
erTaderTi SemTxveva. 20 we-
lia vcdilob Cems qveyanas da-
vexmaro. garwmunebT, rom 80
milionis gadaxdis gadawyveti-
leba miviRe mxolod imis Sem-
dgom, rodesac xelisuflebam
stiqiiT dazaralebulebis da-
saxmareblad mizerulad samar-
cxvino Tanxebi gamohyo.
kanonmdebloba Cemze ise
moarges, rom dagWirdes wa-
mals ver miawvdi adamians –
dagiWeren. gauWirda qveyanas,
daiwyo xelisuflebam stiqiiT
dazaralebuli mosaxleobis
motyueba, am dros me Zalian
droulad visargeble momen-
tiT, rom davxmarebodi xalxs
da jarima gadavixade.
Cems mier gadaxdili jari-
mis saxiT, saxelmwifos dama-
tebiTi finansebi gauCnda. keTi-
li inebon zarali aunazRau-
ron mosaxleobas. paralelu-
rad realuri danakargis aRwe-
ras vaxdenT. Tu xelisuflebas
axla ver vaiZulebT stiqiiT
dasazalebulebs Sesabamisi
kompensacia gadauxados, mo-
valT xelisuflebaSi da auci-
leblad gadavuxdiT.
-bbaattoonnoo bbiiZZiinnaa,, ZZaalliiaann ddiiddii
mmoollooddiinniiaa TTqqvveennii kkooaalliicciiiissaa
ddaa uuffrroo sswwoorraadd TTqqvveennddaammii.. ssaa-
zzooggaaddooeebbaa ppiirraaddaadd TTqqvveenn ggii-
WWeerrTT mmxxaarrss,, mmaass aaqqvvss nnddoobbaa,,
rraacc,, SSeessaabbaammiissaadd,, aarriiss uuddiiddeessii
ppaassuuxxiissmmggeebblloobbaa ddaa ttvviirrTTii..
rrooddeessaacc rreeggiioonneebbSSii xxvvddeebbiiTT
mmoossaaxxlleeoobbaass,, rrooggoorr TTvvlliiTT,,
rraa aarriiss mmTTaavvaarrii,, rraacc aawwuuxxeebbss
aamm xxaallxxss??
-es aris usamarTlobis gan-
cda da umuSevroba. xalxs ar
aqvs samuSao. SegviZlia gavaTa-
nabroT es ori didi problema.
gvyavs uamravi ukanono patima-
ri, devnili, Cveni Tanamoqala-
qeebi sazRvargareT arian ga-
daxvewili lukma-puris saSov-
nelad, fizikuri gadarCenisaT-
vis. warmomidgenia, rogor ga-
WirvebaSi arian isini. me dal-
xinebiT vcxovrobdi sazRvar-
gareT da mainc udidesi nos-
talgia mqonda Cemi samSoblo-
si. garkveul etapze, Cemi Ca-
mosvla saqarTveloSi ar SeiZ-
leboda, saSiSi iyo da ver
warmoidgenT, ra mdgomareobaSi
viyavi maSin. aseTive dReSi
arian saqarTvelos is moqala-
qeebi, romelTac aq aRar
ecxovrebodaT. warmomidgenia
maT rogor undaT sakuTar sam-
SobloSi dabruneba. Cemi mi-
zani iqneba, sazRvargareT
lukma-puris saSovnelad ga-
daxvewilma Cvenma Tanamoqala-
qeebma daiwyon Cemodnebis Ca-
lageba da samSobloSi dabrun-
dnen. sazRvargareT mcxovrebi
yvela qarTveli erTdroulad
ver dabrundeba, radgan ekono-
mikas erT weliwadSi ver
aRadgen.
ase swrafad ver SevqmniT
amden samuSao adgils da minda
mosaxleoba amas gagebiT moeki-
dos. Tumca Cven daviwyebT
process da procesi iqneba Se-
uqcevadi.
Zalian meSinia dapirebebis,
ar minda xalxs iluzia Seeqm-
nas, rom pirvelsave wels yve-
las eSveleba. samarTlianoba
aRsdgeba Zalian swrafad. amis-
Tvis investiciebi ar aris sa-
Wiro. samuSao adgilebs rac
Seexeba, amas ramdenime weliwa-
di dasWirdeba, rom yvelam mo-
axerxos dasaqmeba da sakuTar
samSobloSi dabruneba.
-eerrTT-eerrTT iinntteerrvviiuuSSii TTqqvveenn
ggaannaaccxxaaddeeTT,, rroomm ssaaaakkaaSSvviillss
aaqqvvss yyvveellaa ssaaffuuZZvveellii,, mmiissaaTT-
vviiss,, rroomm ggaaxxddeess ddiiqqttaattoorrii..
TTqqvveennTTvviiss ssaaaakkaaSSvviillii jjeerr kkii-
ddeevv aarr aarriiss ddiiqqttaattoorrii??
-formaluarad ara! Tavisi
ganwyobiT da xasiaTiT is ti-
puri diqtatoria. mas amis
survili aqvs, magram ar aqvs
resursi. resursSi vgulisx-
mob qarTvel xalxs. sazoga-
doebas samwuxarod, ar gagavC-
nia politikuri kultura. ar
gvaqvs saxelmwifos marTvis,
arCevis praqtika. Cveni ubedu-
reba isaa, rom sworad ver
virCevT da ver vakontrolebT
xelisuflebas. amiT isargebla
saakaSvilma. internet sivrce-
Si garcelda video, sadac
kargad Cans, rogor movida sa-
akaSvili xelisuflebaSi qvis
sroliT, saakaSvils namdvi-
lad aqvs survili, iyos diq-
tatori, magram qarTveli
xalxi ar aris iseTi beCavi da
briyvi, rogorc mas hgonia.
qarTveli xalxi ar aitans
diqtators.
-aallbbaaTT,, SSeeccddoommeebbss ggaavviiTTvvaa-
lliisswwiinneebbTT.. xxaallxxiiss nneebbaa aauuccii-
lleebbllaadd uunnddaa iiqqnneess ggaaTTvvaalliiss-
wwiinneebbuullii.. mmaaJJoorriittaarreebbss mmiinnddaa
SSeevveexxooTT.. mmTTeell rriigg rraaiioonneebbSSii
ddaassaaxxeelleebbuulliiaa iisseeTTii kkaannddiiddaa-
tteebbii,, rroommeelliicc aarr iiwwvveevveenn xxaall-
xxiiss ssiimmppaaTTiiaass.. eess kkaarrggaadd CCaannss,,
rrooddeessaacc CCvveennTTaann rreekkaavveenn ppiirr-
ddaappiirr eeTTeerrSSii ddaa mmTTxxoovveenn,, xxmmaa
mmooggaawwvvddiinnooTT.. mmee eeTTeerrSSii aarr ddaa-
vvaassaaxxeelleebb mmaaTT ggvvaarreebbss,, kkaaddrrss
mmiiRRmmaa ggeettyyvviiTT.. xxaallxxSSii ggaaCCnnddaa
ggaannccddaa,, rroomm ssaaddRRaacc vviiRRaaccaamm
eerrTTppiirroovvnnuullaadd ggaaddaawwyyvviittaa mmaa-
JJoorriirrttaarreebbiiss kkaannddiiddaatteebbiiss vvii-
nnaaoobbaa.. vviinn iiTTRReebbddaa ggaaddaawwyyvveettii-
lleebbeebbss,, TTqqvveenn TTuu kkooaalliicciiiiss
ssxxvvaa lliiddeerreebbiicc??
-arasodes gamomiyenebia ko-
aliciis Tavmjdomaris upira-
tesoba da gadawyvetilebebi ar
mimiRia erTpirovnulad. kandi-
datebis ganxilva xdeba koali-
ciis liderebTan erTad. jer
erTi, Cems xasiaTSi ar zis es
da meore, Secdomebisgan ar vi-
yavi dazRveuli, radgan me maT
faqtobrivad, ar vicnobdi.
vTvli, rom kargi kandidate-
bia, ZiriTadad dasaxelebuli,
Tumca Secdomisgan aravin varT
dazRveuli
-aannuu aarr ggaammoorriiccxxaavvTT kkaannddii-
ddaatteebbiiss SSeeccvvllaass??
-namdvilad ar gamovricxav.
saWiroebis SemTxvevaSi, ar ga-
movricxav „qarTulma ocnebam“
maJoritari deputatobis kan-
didatebSi koreqtivebi Seita-
nos.
biZina ivaniSvili: biZina ivaniSvili:
ar gamovricxav, `qarTulma
ocnebam~ maJoritari deputatebis
kandidatebSi koreqtivebi Seitanos...
8 gv.
8 saerTo gazeTi #34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.
yvelasTvis mosawoni kandi-
datis SerCeva Zalian Znelia.
sazogadoebis nawili gulwr-
felad ganicdis Cvens mier
daSvebul Secdomebs, magram
arsebobs xalxis kategoria,
romelTa mizania sxvadasxva
gzebiT da intrigebiT uari
gvaTqmevinos Rirseul kandida-
tebze.
vici, rom gvismenen, gviT-
valTvaleben, cdiloben in-
formacia moipovon, magram es
CvenTvis didi ubedureba namd-
vilad ar aris. Tumca, rogorc
ki karg, Rirseul kandidats
davasaxelebT, yvelaze metad
imas esxmian Tavs. grovdeboda
cru xelmowerebi, rom es kan-
didati, romelsac ama Tu im
raionSi gamarjvebis realuri
Sansi hqonda, moxsniliyo ro-
gorme. es ramdenjerme ganmeor-
da. amas axerxebs seTuris sam-
saxuri. igive xalxi SeiZleba
moqmedebdes televiziasTan mi-
marTebaSi. maT aseve eWvebi Se-
aqvT Cvens mxardamWerebSi, ra-
Ta SeSfoTeba gamoiwvion maT-
Si.
-rrooddeessaacc aassaaxxeelleebbddiiTT mmaa-
JJoorriittaarrTTaa kkaannddiiddaatteebbss,, iiyyoo
TTuu aarraa CCaarrTTuullii aamm pprroocceessSSii
xxaallxxii,, mmiimmddiinnaarreeoobbddaa TTuu aarraa
ggaammookkiiTTxxvvaa ddaa aa..SS..??
-ra Tqma unda, rom Zalian
bevr regionSi Cven CavatareT
gamokiTxva. xalxs aucileblad
vekiTxebodiT azrs. es proce-
si dResac grZeldeba. magali-
Tad, cagerSi meoTxe delega-
cia gavgzavneT axla da albaT,
male ganacxadeben kandidatis
vinaobas. zogierT raionSi or-
jer-samjer SevxvdiT mosaxle-
obas. marTalia, farTomasSta-
bian gamokiTxvas ver vaxerxeb-
diT, magram zogad suarTs ma-
inc viRebdiT.
-CCvveennii tteelleemmaayyuurreebbeellii xxSSii-
rraadd ggvviivvaammss kkiiTTxxvvaass,, aarriiss TTuuaa
aarraa nnaaTTeessaauurrii ssttaattuussii ssaakkmmaa-
rriissii iimmiissaaTTvviiss,, rroomm aaddaammaaiinnii
ddaassaaxxeellddeess kkaannddiiddaattaadd??
-ra Tqma unda, totalurad
ara, magram, magaliTad is faq-
ti, rom manana berikaSvili gi-
vi berikaSvilis qaliSvilia,
aman, ra Tqma unda, imuSava.
Tumca es erTeuli SemTxvevaa.
partiebi motivirebuli iyvnen
iqiTken, rom kandidati yofi-
liyo Rirseuli.
-kkooaalliicciiaaSSii aarriiaann aaddaammiiaannee-
bbii,, rroommeellTTaacc xxaallxxii xxmmaass aarr
mmiisscceemmddaa,, rroomm aarraa bbiiZZiinnaa iivvaa-
nniiSSvviillii,, rroommeellssaacc vveennddoobbiiTT..
ggrrZZnnoobbTT TTuu aarraa ppaassuuxxiissmmggeebb-
lloobbaass aamm aaddaammiiaanneebbiiss ggaammoo,, rroo-
mmeellTTaacc TTqqvveenn TTqqvveennii ssaaxxeelliiTT
SSeeiiyyvvaannTT ppaarrllaammeennttSSii ddaa aarraa
xxaallxxiiss mmxxaarrddaaWWeerriiTT??
-me Zalian bevri vimuSave
koaliciis SigniT, da arsebu-
li resursidan gamomdinare,
marTlac optimaluri jgufi
CamovayalibeT. gavarkvieT mize-
zebi, ratom ar uWerda maT
mxars sazogadoeba, ratom ar
aqvT reitingi, ratom ar arian
popularulebi. bevri maTgani
amayobs, rom man reitingi sa-
xelmwifos mSeneblobas Sea-
lia. Tumca samSoblos da sa-
xelmwifos cneba xSirad ar
emTxveoda erTmaneTs. isini Ta-
vianTi principulobiT gamoir-
Cevian da amave principulobi-
dan gamomdinare dauSviaT Sec-
domebi da ara Segnebulad. me
yovelTvis vcdilob kargi
mxridan davinaxo adamiani.
iseTi Wrelia Cveni sazoga-
doeba, imdeni sicrue danerga
masSi saakaSvilma, profesiona-
li analitikosic ki fexs mo-
itexs. mirCevnia, adamians Tavi-
si principebidan gamomdinare
daSvebuli Secdomebi hqondes,
vidre yalbi da matyuara iyos.
es xalxi CemTvis gacilebiT
sandoa, vidre uprincipo adami-
anebi, romlebic Zalian xSirad
axerxebdnen Ralats.
-aarriiss ffaaqqtteebbii,, rrooddeessaacc
aaddaammiiaanneebbii,, rroommlleebbiicc ssaaaakkaaSSvvii-
lliiss rreeJJiimmss eemmssaaxxuurreebbooddnneenn
wwlleebbiiss ggaannmmaavvlloobbaaSSii,, uucceebb aaRR-
mmooCCnnddeenn ooppoozziicciiaaSSii,, rrooggoorrcc
kkii ggaammooCCnnddaa iivvaanniiSSvviillii.. xxoomm aarr
ggaammooiiwwvveevvss aasseeTTii ffaaqqtteebbii ggaarrkk-
vveeuull iimmeeddggaaccrruueebbaass ssaazzooggaaddoo-
eebbiiss iimm nnaawwiillSSii,, rroommlleebbiicc aamm
wwlleebbiiss ggaannmmaavvlloobbaaSSii gguullwwrr-
ffeellaadd eebbrrZZooddnneenn rreeJJiimmss,, rraa
aazzrrii hhqqoonnddaa mmaaSSiinn bbrrZZoollaass??
-ra Tqma unda, gansxvaveba
sazogadoebis am or nawils
Soris angariSgasawevia da amas
TiTqmis yovelTvis viTvalis-
wineb. Tumca kargad vacnobie-
rebT, rom sajaro moxeleebis
didi nawili msxverplia saa-
kaSvilis ideologiisa. maT
odesRac iseve moswondaT saa-
kaSvili, rogorc me da abso-
lutur umravlesobas. dResac
am jadosnuri sistemidan gad-
moxtoma arc Tu ise iolia.
SeiZleba viRacas wamosvla un-
dodes, xelfassac Seelios,
magram xelfasi aRar aris gan-
msazRvreli,. SeiZleba Zma, qma-
ri an mSobeli dauWiron da
ufro uaresi - fizikurad ga-
anadguron! is, rom maT ar aqvT
alternatiuli samuSao, iZu-
lebulni arian darCnen sajaro
samsaxurSi, amas gagebiT veki-
debi. vapireb, movuwodo am
xalxs samsaxuris datovebisa-
ken arCevnebamde, mixedon Tava-
inT momavals. Cveni mizania, Se-
vinarCunoT saqarTvelos yvela
is moqalaqe, visac sisxlis sa-
marTlis danaSauli ar qvs Ca-
denili. es sasamarTlom unda
gadawyvitos da ara politiko-
sebma. Cven unda movaxerxoT,
pirvel rigSi, obieqturi sasa-
marTlos danergva da amaze pi-
radad vizruneb.
ver davkargavT verc erT
saqarTvelos moqalaqes. me, pi-
radad, vnaxe, rogor veRar mi-
yurebdnen TvalebSi swored is
xalxi, romlebic mestiaSi mi-
kiJinebdnen. Cven sxva kultu-
ris da tradiciebis qveyana
varT, romelsac ase advilad
ver modrek da ver gadaagvareb!
-TTuummccaa eess xxeelliissuufflleebbaa
yyvveellaaffeerrss aakkeeTTeebbss aamm qqvveeyynniiss
ggaassaannaaddgguurreebbllaadd....
-ar minda davijero da isev
Woris doneze vambob, rogorc
amboben, arsebobs gegma, rom-
lis mixedviTc mxolod mili-
onnaxevari adamiani unda dar-
Ces saqarTveloSi da aqedan
mxolod 40% unda iyos eTni-
kurad qarTveli. Tu es marTa-
li ar aris, maSin ratom agde-
ben aseT dReSi qarTul so-
fels. burebisTvis SeiZleba iq
cxovreba da qarTvel glexs
ar daedgomeba.?! Tu gavixse-
nebT, rogor Tqves uari Cems
fulze, investicia Cadebuliyo
soflis meurneobaSi, rogor
gadauketes burebma svanebis
sofels wyali, es Wori am
fonze Zalian hgavs simarTles.
-TTqqvveenn ppoolliittiikkoossii bbrrZZaannddee-
bbiiTT ddaa aammiittoomm ssaauubbrroobbTT mmoozzoo-
mmiillaadd,, bbaattoonnoo bbiiZZiinnaa,, mmee ddiiddii
xxaanniiaa aammoovvvvaarrddii JJuurrnnaalliissttiiss
CCaarrCCooeebbiiddaann ddaa ppiirrddaappiirr vvllaa-
ppaarraakkoobb iimmaass,, rraassaa,, xxaallxxii aamm-
bboobbss.. rrooggoorr aarr iiyyoo eess mmiizzaann-
mmiimmaarrTTuullii ggaannaaddgguurreebbaa qqvveeyynniiss,,
rrooccaa aammddeennii bbiiWWeebbii CCaaxxoocceess
uuddaannaaSSaauulloodd,, rrooccaa tteerriittoo-
rriiiiss 2222%% ddaaTTmmeess,, rrooccaa rree-
ffoorrmmeebbiiTT ddaaaannggrriieess ggaannaaTTlleebbaa,,
mmeeccnniieerreebbaa,, kkuullttuurraa.. TTqqvveenn kkii
mmooggwwoonnTT ggaannaaTTlleebbiiss rreeffoorrmmaa
mmaaggrraamm......
-vin Tqva, rom momwons. me
aRvniSne, rom mivesalmebi
erovnul gamocdebs. Torem re-
formebis absoluturi umrav-
lesoba iyo damangreveli da
stresuli Cveni sazogadoebis-
Tvis. guSin Cemi ZmiSvili mi-
kiTxavda: merabiSvili da sa-
qarTvelos akademikosebi sa-
qarTvelos gadaarCenen! es
aris samsityviani anekdoti.
arsebulma xelisuflebam, mec-
niereba da ganaTleba, praqti-
kulad, gaanadgura. mxolod
erTiani erovnuli gamocdebisa
da policiis reformam gaamar-
Tla. aTasobiT patrulma uari
Tqva qrTamis aRebaze, magram es
ar iyo arc merabiSvilis kar-
gi menejmentis Sedegi da arc
saakaSvilis ideologiaze dam-
yarebuli gamarjveba – es Sem-
TxveviT gamouvidaT. me SemiZ-
lia asobiT reforma gavixseno,
ris Sedegadac qveyana dangre-
vis piras miiyvanes. es policia
dRes bolomde daingra, bo-
lomde politizirebulia. isev
qarTveli xalxis winaaRmdeg
iyeneben. Tavad policia
gaxda reJimis msxverpli
da Cven maT aucileblad
gavaTavisuflebT.
me Zalian minda move-
fero maT. iq aris Seyri-
li, daaxloebiT, 1000
kaci, zonderebi, aSanta-
Jeben da ubiZgeben danaSa-
ulisaken.
Cven Rirseuli yofa
unda SevqmnaT TiToeuli
Cveni moqalaqisaTvis da
amiT davamtkicoT, rom
marTla niWieri eri
varT!
-mmaaggrraamm jjeerr uunnddaa mmoo-
vviiggooTT aarrCCeevvnneebbii.. TTqqvveenn
bbrrZZaanneeTT,, rroomm aarr mmooxxddeebbaa
aamm aarrCCeevvnneebbiiss ggaayyaallbbeebbaa.. TTuummccaa
aarrCCeevvnneebbii uukkvvee yyaallbbddeebbaa.. pprroo-
cceessiiss ggaayyaallbbeebb uukkvvee kkaannoonnddeebbaa..
rraa mmeeTTooddeebbss mmiimmaarrTTaavvss bbiiZZiinnaa
iivvaanniiSSvviillii ggaayyaallbbeebbiiss SSeemmTTxxvvee-
vvaaSSii ddaa TTuu iiqqnneebbaa aamm mmeeTTooddeebb-
SSii ssaammooqqaallaaqqoo ddaauummoorrCCiilleebb-
lloobbiiss ggzzaa??
-amdeni dayadaRebiT, daja-
rimebiT, faqtobrivad, ukve
yalbdeba arCevnebi, uflebas
ar gvaZleven davafinansoT kam-
pania. daxures organizaciebi,
xdeba sazogadoebrivi azris
Camoyalibeba.
yvela is qmedeba, rasac xe-
lisufleba Cvens winaaRmdeg
axorcielebs, ukve aris gayal-
bebis nawili. is gayalbebis me-
qanizmebi, rac am xelisufle-
bas aqvs SemuSavebuli, ukve
gaTvlili gvaqvs da prevenci-
ul zomebzec aqtiurad vmuSa-
obT. koalicias aqvs gaTvlebi,
romelSic yvela gayalbebis me-
qanizmis faqtori gaTvaliswi-
nebulia da amis Sedegad xeli-
sufleba arCevnebis gayalbebas
5 procentze meti maCvenebliT
ver SeZlebs. xelisuflebas
arCevnebis gayalbeba ukve
dawyebuli aqvs. is, rom sazo-
gadoebis azris Camoyalibeba
surT sxvadasxva tipis kvleve-
biT, jarimebiT, im zewoliT,
rac xorcieldeba Cems Tanamo-
azreebze, gayalbebis nawilia.
Tumca, xelisuflebisTvis ase-
Ti qmedeba sakmarisi mainc ar
iqneba. Cven SevqmeniT specia-
luri jgufi, romelic maT ma-
qinaciebs Seiswavlis. ukve uam-
ravi videomasala arsebobs ko-
ordinatorebze, maT Sekrebeb-
ze, gayalbebis meTodebze.
„qarTuli ocneba“ arCevnebs
didi sxvaobiT moigebs. evrope-
lebTan da amerikelebTan in-
tensiuri muSaoba mimdinareobs
da Tu xelisufleba totalur
gayalbebas Seecdeba, arCevnebi
Semdgarad ar CaiTvleba. Tumca
Cven gasakeTebel aravin gaake-
Tebs. dasavleli megobrebi ar
gariskaven bevrs, maT aq aqvT
kavSirebi. Tumca totalur si-
yalbeze xels ar mouweren.
rac Seexeba diqtaturas, maT
amis resursi namdvilad ar
aqvT. arsebul xelisuflebas
civiluri meTodebiT gavistum-
rebT. Tu saWiro gaxda, bolos
da bolos mTel saqarTvelos
quCaSi davayenebT da amerikel
Tu evropel damkvirveblebs
naTlad davanaxebT arsebul
realobas. da Tu mainc moaxer-
xes amaT gayalbeba, mouwera
Tundac xeli evropam da ameri-
kam, me arasodes ar movuwodeb
qarTvel xalxs dapirispirebi-
saken. quCaSi gamoviyvanT sazo-
gadoebas da pirdapir davaTv-
levinebT gamosul xalxs ame-
rikelebsa da evropelebs.
-ssaazzooggaaddooeebbaa ggaanniiccddiiss,, rroomm
aarr mmooxxddeebbaa iissee,, rroomm `̀qqaarrTTuullii
ooccnneebbaa~~,, vvTTqqvvaaTT SSeevvaa ppaarrllaammeenn-
ttSSii,, ddaaiikkaavveebbss 2200 ssaavvaarrZZeellss
ddaa rreeJJiimmii ddaarrCCeebbaa rreeJJiimmaadd.. rraass
iizzaammss iivvaanniiSSvviillii mmaaSSiinn??
-es ararealuaria. Cven
gvaqvs gaTvlebi, viTvaliswi-
nebT Zalian bevr gare da Sida
faqtors. `qarTuli ocnebisT-
vis“ yvelaze optimaluri Se-
degi, parlamentSi 60 procen-
tiT Sesvla iqneba. yvelaze
uares SemTxvevaSi, SeiZleba
miviRoT 40%. naklebi ara. da
es 40% amaTvis damangreveli
iqneba, radgan sicruiT veRar
gvmarTaven. saakaSvils aRar
aqvs perspeqtiva, qveyana gada-
Cexos. igi an Tavad gadaiCexe-
ba an darCes da perspeqtiva
Seiqmnas. amitom movuwodeb,
dabrundnen kanonier sivrceSi
da moemsaxuron sakuTar
xalxs.
-iiZZaabbeebbaa ssiittuuaacciiaa CCvveennii rree-
ggiioonniiss iirrggvvlliivv.. aammaazzee ssaaxxeellii-
ssuufflleebboo aarrxxeebbii aarr ssaauubbrroobbeenn,,
mmaaggrraamm pprroocceesseebbii iimmddiinnaarreeoobbss..
rraammddeennaadd SSeeZZlleebbTT TTqqvveenn ddaaiicc-
vvaaTT qqvveeyyaannaa mmoossaallooddnneellii kkaa-
ttaakklliizzmmeebbiissaaggaann??
- saakaSvilma SeiZleba Ta-
vis sasargeblod gamoiyenos
iranis irgvliv mimdinare mov-
lenebi, swored am katakliz-
mebze vsaubrobdi,roca vaxsene,
Cveni parlamentSi 40%-iT
Sesvla. Cven rodesac xeli-
suflebaSi movalT, maqsimalu-
rad SevecdebiT gatardes yve-
la prevencia qveynis gadasar-
Cenad. swori politikis da
analizis Sedegad minimumamde
unda daviyvanoT is safrTxee-
bi, rac garedan gvemuqreba.
mediakavSiri „obieqtivi“
iibbeeWWddeebbaa SSeemmookklleebbiiTT
7 gv.
ar gamovricxav, `qarTulma
ocnebam~ maJoritari
deputatebis kandidatebSi
koreqtivebi Seitanos...
9saerTo gazeTi#34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.
gvesaubreba filosofiis doq-
tori zaza SaTiriSvili:
_ zaza, xelisuflebis mxridan
jarimebs, yadaRebs bolo ar uCans.
es yvelaferi ukve sajarod gaupa-
tiurebis scenas emsgavseba. amiT
xelisufleba Zalis demonstrire-
bas axdens. rodemde viTminoT es?
_ xelisufleba gvaSantaJebs,
anu mas yvelaferi iqamde mihyavs,
rom xalxis quCaSi gamosvlebi ga-
moiwvios. SantaJis arsi Semdegia,
igi ambobs _ me Tu ar viqnebi, re-
voluciis mowyoba mogiwevT, Tu
ara moiTmineTo, Tqven xom ar gin-
daT revolucia, amitom me viqne-
bio. igi sargeblobs imiT, rom
gvaxsenebs samoqalaqo oms. misi
`plusia~, is rom igi `bezprede-
li~ tipia da amiT sargeblobs. es,
ra Tqma unda Zalian saxifaToa. sa-
erTod, revoluciebis dros
msxverplis momenti saxifaToa imi-
tom, rom es ukanaskneli TviTon
aris xolme damnaSave. aseTi damna-
Save msxverpli mudmivad arsebobs,
CrdiliviTaa arsad midis, sul xe-
laxla Cndeba da Cndeba. es serio-
zuli problemaa. arsebobs dilema
_ Cven Tavisuflad SegviZlia da
sruli, legitimuri uflebac
gvaqvs, am xelisuflebis demonta-
Jis, radgan rasac igi akeTebs es
realurad `bezpredelia~. es legi-
timaciis sakiTxia, rac Semdegs gu-
lisxmobs _ ratom akeTebs xeli-
sufleba imas, rasac akeTebs? _
bolo periodamde es xdeboda imi-
tom, rom igi progresuli da pro-
dasavluri iyo. nebismieri xeli-
sufleba garkveuli legitimaciis
wyarodan gamomdinare Zaladobs _
an aris imitom, rom RvTaebrivia,
an raRac miTologias eyrdnoba. am
SemTxvevaSi, es iyo fizikurad
jorj buSis mxardaWera. ufro
metic, es iyo buSis proeqti, ro-
melic aSS-s dominirebas, ruseTis
daSlas gulisxmobda, raSic saqar-
Tvelos Tavis roli unda Seesru-
lebina. es oreuli da plus prog-
resuloba, xelisuflebas dRemde
mohyveba. es seriozuli ramaa. oba-
mas xelisuflebac ki iZulebulia
Tavisi winamorbedis proeqti gaiT-
valiswinos. aSS-Si ase ar xdeba,
rom momdevno xelisuflebam winas
demiTologizacia moaxdinos, gans-
xvavebiT sabWoTa kavSirisgan, sa-
dac momdevno xelisufleba winas
demiTologizacias axdenda. aqedan
gamomdinare, es seriozuli momen-
ti iyo. xelisuflebisTvis 7 noem-
beric, 26 maisic pro-rusuli, anu
CamorCenili gadatrialebis mcde-
loba iyo. xelisufleba ambobs _
me var progresi, yvela revolucia
progresia, zemoxsenebuli ki aris
kontrrevolucia, amitomac ufle-
ba maqvs xalxi davsajo, represie-
bi ganvaxorcieloo. xelisufleba
cdilobs igive ivaniSvilTan mimar-
TebaSi ganaxorcielos. igi miiC-
nevs, rom ivaniSvili pro-rusuli,
CamorCenilia, Tavad ki progresu-
lia.
_ magram, zaza, am `progresu-
li~ qmedebebiT mogebuli isev xe-
lisufleba rCeba _ jarimebis ga-
daxdiT ivaniSvili isev da isev xe-
lisuflebis cariel jibeebs av-
sebs...
_ ra Tqma unda, geTanxmebi, es
Tanxa xelisuflebis jibeSi midis.
magram ivaniSvils ar gadauxdia
jarima. 80 milionis gadaxda _ es
qvelmoqmedeba iyo.
_ riT mtkicdeba, es faqti,
vinmes SeuZlia daadasturos, rom
am 80 milionidan erTi TeTri ma-
inc moxmarda kaxeTs?
_ xo, magram, faqtia, rom xe-
lisuflebas fuli saerTod ar
hqonda da 80 milioni gauCnda. oq-
tomberSi axali xelisufleba mo-
va da am 80 milions gaakontro-
lebs. 80 milionis gadaxdas, ro-
gorc qvelmoqmedebas ise ganvixi-
lav. rac Seexeba danarCens, ivaniS-
vili amas iZulebiT akeTebs. igi
jarimas ar ixdis, magram arsebobs
iZulebiTi aRsrulebis meqanizmi,
anu viRaca modis da yvelaferi da-
ukiTxavad miaqvs. am yvelafers Se-
iZleba winaaRmdegoba gauwio, mag-
ram es ukve Zaladobrivi aqtia.
rodesac ivaniSvili jarimis
gadaxdaze uars ambobs _ es araZa-
ladobrivad arSesrulebuli aq-
tia. amiT igi ambobs, rom es kano-
ni cudia da ar asrulebs mas, mag-
ram rodesac viRac modis da Seni
saxlidan miaqvs, am SemTxvevaSi wi-
naaRmdegobis gaweva ukve Zalado-
bis dialeqtikaSi gagdebs, amitom
ivaniSvili sworad iqceva.
_ marTebuli saqcielia isic,
rac giga bukias saxlis auqcionze
gamotanas ukavSirdeba? xelisuf-
lebas Tanxa ar aqvs da verc iyi-
dis am qonebas. imis magivrad, rom
saxlis yidva davgmoT da es Rala-
tad gamovacxadoT, piriqiT ratom
viqceviT, es Tanxa xom bukias ki
ara xelisuflebis jibeSi midis?
ra logika devs amaSi?
_ am saxls veravin iyidis imi-
tom, rom nebismieri myidveli go-
nivruli eWvidan gamomdinare iva-
niSvilTan iqneba dakavSirebuli.
mokled, es iseTi dialeqtikaa, ro-
melsac sjobs Tavi davaneboT. xe-
lisuflebis logika midis Semde-
gisken igi iqamde midis, rom fuli
akrZalos, rasac praqtikulad ake-
Tebs kidec. igi ambobs, rom fuli
ar unda arsebobdes, esaa misi lo-
gika. aqedan gamomdinare, ase vityo-
di, sxva saSualeba ar arsebobs _
kanoni ar unda Seasrulo, magram
rodesac saqme iqamde midis, rom
viRac Semodis SenTan saxlSi da
daukiTxavad miaqvs, sxva gamosava-
li aRar gaqvs, winaaRmdegobas ver
gauwev. winaaRmdegoba Zaladobis
logikaSi gagdebs.
_ aba rogor moviqceT, ase ga-
laxulebi mivideT arCevnebamde?
sanam fuls uxdi, xelisufleba
yovelTvis gamoZebnis dasayadaRe-
bels da amas bolo ar eqneba.
_ amaze verafers vityvi, es
politikosebis saqmea. amaSi saer-
Tod ver verkvevi. vsaubrob imaze,
Tu ra unda moimoqmedo araswori
kanonis winaaRmdeg _ aseTi kanoni
ar unda Seasrulo. ratom aris
gandizmi mniSvnelovani? _ kanoni
unda daarRvio araZaladobrivad.
sazogadoebam unda ilaparakos, Se-
fasebebi gaakeTos. Cven didi xania
Sefasebuli gvaqvs saakaSvilis re-
Jimi, rogorc Rrmad Sizofreniu-
li movlena. sxva rogorRa Sevafa-
sod. diagnozi dasmulia.
_ gasagebia, magram diagnozis
dasmas mkurnaloba mosdevs xolme,
anu qmedebaa saWiro.
_ qmedeba Semdegia _ radganac
ivaniSvils Zaladobrivi aqti, re-
volucia ar surs da Cven mas ven-
dobiT, amitom mis strategias un-
da mivyveT. vinc ar endoba, ki, ba-
tono, moawyos paralelurad re-
volucia.
_ ivaniSvilis gamoCenam garda
magisa xelisuflebas Semosavlis
wyaro xom ar gauCina? xelebaweu-
li vdgevarT da gaviZaxiT _ wai-
ReT, gagvZarcveT...
_ ki, magram es seriozuli
araa. es fuli mniSvnelovani araa.
xelisuflebas aranairi resursi
aRar aqvs. roca Zaladoba erTa-
derTi iaraRia, amiT Cans, rom sxva
resursi amowuruli gaqvs. roca
sxva resursi ar dagrCa, garda qo-
nebis dayadaRebis, antenebis akr-
Zalvis, amaze seriozulad saubari
SeuZlebelia.
dRevandeli situacia garkveu-
li tipis gamowvevebs gvTavazobs,
rasac pasuxebi sWirdeba. amis gamo-
xatvis formebi SeiZleba improvi-
zaciuli iyos, radgan situacia
sruliad gauTvaliswinebelia, ara-
fers ar hgavs, aqedan gamomdinare
pasuxebic gansxvavebulia.
_ iqneb erT-eerTi gansxvavebu-
li pasuxi isic iyos, rom yadaRe-
bis dadebiT fulis miRebis gamow-
veuli imedi davukargoT xelisuf-
lebas, ris Sedegadac igi iZulebu-
li gaxdeba gaCerdes.
_ es represiuli logi-
kaa. Zalian mniSvnelovania
Tu rodis amuSavda igi. rep-
resiuli manqana swored ma-
Sin amuSavda, rodesac Zala
dainaxa, anu es represiuli
aparati 27 maisis Semdeg
amuSavda. roca 200 aTasi
kaci dainaxes, xelisuflebam
gadawyvita, mTavaria ivaniS-
vils fuli waarTvas da qve-
bi esrolos, magram es lo-
gika ar muSaobs imitom, rom
ivaniSvili mxolod fuli
rodia. iseve, rogorc mxo-
lod qvebis sroliT ver
SegvaSineben. dRes `naciona-
luri moZraoba~ ukve warsu-
lia, CamorCeniloba, goimobaa.
davakvirdeT ra moxda _ jer
xalxi TbilisSi gamovida, Semdeg
quTaisSi _ xelisuflebas egona,
rom quTaisi misi mxardamWeria,
radgan iq parlamenti aaSenes. Sem-
deg iyo ozurgeTi, mcxeTa, baTumi,
romelic mixeil saakaSvilma daa-
fuZna da am dros aqciaze xalxis
raodenobis rekordebi ixsneba. amas
xelisufleba sxva verafers uzam-
da da aqedan gamomdinare represi-
uli aparati aamoqmeda. sxva riT
unda upasuxos am yvelafers xeli-
suflebam? _ ra Tqma unda imiT,
rasac am 9 wlis manZilze akeTeb-
da _ piariT, dayadaRebiT, yaCaRo-
biT. es xom yovelTvis iyo. xom mi-
viReT TamaSis es wesi, rom Catar-
des arCevnebi?! sazogadoeba amas
Tavisi gamosvlebiT, arsebuli re-
itingebiT ambobs. ivaniSvils, daax-
loebiT xalxis 70 procenti
uWers mxars, `nac.moZraobas~ _ 8
procenti.
_ xom ar xdeba ise, rom xal-
xi damarcxebas SeaCvies da maT Se-
iZleba, am fonze aRarc arCevnebSi
damarcxeba gaukvirdeT?
_ xalxi, amas rogorc damar-
cxebas ise ar aRiqvams. iseve, ro-
gorc arsebobs raRac momentebi,
roca adamiani usamarTlobas sCa-
dis. damarcxeba da gamarjveba maSi-
naa, rodesac brZola Tanabaria,
roca orives iaraRi aqvs. roca
orives iaraRi aqvs da erTi meores
amarcxebs, amas hqvia brZola, mag-
ram roca meores iaraRi ar aqvs da
saxeSi urtyamen, es usamarTlobaa.
xalxi ki yovelTvis imis mxaresaa
visac urtyamen. axla swored ase-
Ti situaciaa, anu es ar aris ga-
marjveba da damarcxeba, aramed
usamarTlobaa. xelisufleba amaSi
scdeba, magram mas gamosavali ar
aqvs. iciT xelisufleba ras ake-
Tebs _ urtyams adamians, romel-
sac iaraRi ar aqvs.
_ zaza, neba momeciT, am SemTx-
vevaSi ar dageTanxmoT. dadgeba mo-
menti, roca daCagrulis mimarT
xalxs TanagrZnoba aRar eqneba,
elementalurad mixvdeba, rom Ta-
vad daCagruli maT ver uSvelis
da xalxi Zlieris mxares daiWers.
es xom xalxis Tvisebaa?
_ ki, magram, saqme iciT, raSia?
_ xalxi Zlieris mxares gadadis
maSin, roca es ukanaskneli realu-
radaa Zlieri. SeiZleba Zlieri
usamarTlo iyos, magram axla ase-
Ti situaciaa _ is, vinc Zaladobs
ukve Zlieri aRar aris, mas Zala
ecleba da sakuTari Tavis rwmena
ekargeba. es ki imitom xdeba, rom
mas ukve aRar sjera imis, risic 8-
9 wlis win sjeroda. mas sakuTa-
ri simarTlis aRar sjera. amito-
macaa, rom dRes erTs ambobs, xval
meores, zeg mesames, babilonur ena-
ze laparakobs. yvelaze mniSvnelo-
vani momentia rwmenis dakargva.
roca adamians rwmena dakarguli
aqvs, mas ar aqvs Zala. Zala araso-
des ar dgas mxolod Zalaze, ara-
med Sinagan rwmenaze. yvela dampy-
robels napoleons, Cingiz xans,
Temur lengs hqondaT is, rasac Ca-
nafiqris sidiade ewodeba. napole-
oni aleqsandre makedonels baZav-
da, mas erTiani evropa undoda.
aleqsandre Tavis Tavs rogorc
aqilevss warmoidgenda da aRmosav-
leTis da dasavleTis gaerTianeba
surda. demokratiis evropuli
idea iyo yvela adamiani gavaTavi-
sufloT. demokratias, feminizms,
ra ideebi aqvs?! _ rom unda mivi-
deT mahmadianebTan da qals faran-
ja avxadoT, raTa is ganviTardes.
meore sakiTxia, ramdenad unda ira-
nels es gaTavisufleba, magram
aris Canafiqris sidiade, roca Se-
gaqvs am tipis ideebi da amis gje-
ra. magram saakaSvils amis ukve
aRar sjera. saakaSvils da mis xe-
lisuflebas Zalauflebis Senar-
Cuneba surs imitom, rom amisgan
seriozuli dividendebi aqvT, anu
oligarqiuli sistemis xibli _
roca biznesi, fuli da Zalaufle-
ba erTi da igivea. xelisuflebas
yovelTvis, sxvadasxvanairad miR-
weuli, raRac garkveuli tipis as-
ketizmi sWirdeba. rodesac Zala-
ufleba pirdapiraa siamovnebasTan
dakavSirebuli, am tipis xelisuf-
leba didxans ver Zlebs.
_ saakaSvili vis baZavs?
_ saakaSvili, faqtobrivad yve-
las da yvelafers baZavs. es unika-
luri fenomenia, Zalian araorigi-
naluri da Tan ekleqturi adamia-
nia. yvelaze axlos, albaT caxes
cinoberTanaa _ visTanacaa imas em-
sgavseba. misi reJimi Zalian arase-
riozuli, Teatraluria, romelic
Tan seriozul sisxls Rvris. saq-
me imaSi ki araa, am reJimma 2 aTa-
si kaci daxoca Tu milioni. mTava-
ri isaa, rom Tavisi SinaarsiTaa
represiuli.
gamarjvebas da damarcxebas az-
ri aqvs maSin, roca orives iaraRi
aqvs, roca erTsac samurais xmali
aqvs da meoresac. magaliTad, due-
lis dros puSkini damarcxda da
dantesma gaimarjva. ara, es magali-
Ti ar gvinda, ityvian, rom pro-ru-
suli var (icinis). rodesac dar-
tanianma roSfori daamarcxa ori-
ves daSna hqonda, ubralod, erTi
ukeTesad xmarobda, vidre meore.
aqedan gamomdinare, roca fuls,
antenebs garTmeven, qvebs gesvrian,
sul sxva movlenasTan gvaqvs saqme.
antenebis da TefSe-bis warTmeviT xelisuf-leba iciT, ras ambobs? _rom is, rasac TviTonlaparakobs, amas aravi-Tari fasi ar aqvs. imTefSiT, xom `rusTavi-2~-ic, `imedic~ iseve gavido-da, rogorc sxva arxebi.anu, am saqcielidan Cans,
rom igi realur in-formacias marTlaaniWebs mniSvnelo-bas da ambobs _ ra-sac me vlaparakob,imas aranairi fasiar aqvs. me vityue-bio, ai, amis aRiare-baa es yvelaferi.
amaze didi aRiareba da
sakuTari Tavisadmi urwmu-
noeba, ubralod warmoudge-
nelia. stalinis dros ar-
Cevnebi rom Catarebuliyo,
90 procenti mas miscemda
xmas imitom, rom rwmena ar-
sebobda. amis naTeli gamo-
xatulebaa omi, romelic
rusebma moiges. mogvwons Tu ara,
es rwmenam ganapiroba. naTqvamia,
yvelaferi rwmenis simkveTreze
rom iyos damokidebuli, maSin eS-
maksac eyoleboda Tavisi wamebu-
lebio. eSmaks gauCnda ukve Tavisi
wamebulebi, esenia: me-19 saukunis
teroristebi, evropeli teroris-
tebi, ideisTvis wamebulebi. magram
sabWoTa kavSiri rodis daingra? _
rodesac rwmena daikarga. saakaS-
vils aqvs parodiuli reJimi, ro-
melic yvela arsebul reJims ba-
Zavda. mas garkveuli azriT undo-
da reigani, aTa Turqi an petre I
yofiliyo. magram, ra gamouvida,
esaa mTavari. es aris absolutu-
rad parodiuli, groteskuli re-
Jimi, Tumca pirvel etapze prog-
resis rwmena arsebobda. xalxSi
iyo rwmena, rom saakaSvili, rome-
lic xuT enaze laparakobs, ufro
progresulia, vidre SevardnaZe,
romelic mamaTidanaa. dRes es
rwmena daikarga da rac mTavaria,
saakaSvilmac dakarga rwmena. swo-
red am uimedobidan, urwmunoebi-
dan daibada imedi ivaniSvilis sa-
xiT. viRacisTvis es imedi rusTa-
velis Teatria, viRacisTvis same-
bis taZari...
Tamar SveliZe
saakaSvils undoda aTaTurqi an petre I gamxdariyo, magram bolos caxes cinoberad iqca...
10 saerTo gazeTi #34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.
oriode Tvis win romm gekiTxaT,,
aqttiuur ppolittikuur saqmmianobaSi
Cabmmas xomm ar appirebTo,, kattegori-
uul uuars gettyodaT. dRes koalicia
`qarTuuli ocneba-ddemmokrattiuuli sa-
qarTvelos~ mmaJorittarobis kandi-
dattia dmmanisis raionSi. igi koali-
ciis lidermma battonmma biZina ivaniS-
vilmma walkaSi gammarTuuli winasaar-
Cevno Sexvedrisas Tavad waruudgina
mmosaxleobas. mmarTalia,, ppolittiko-
sobis gammocdileba ar gaaCnia,, mmag-
ramm Tuu mmis biograffias gadavxedavT,,
yovelTvis iq iyo,, sadac,, mmisi az-
riT,, yvelaze mmettad gammoadgeboda
qveyanas. axla mmSobliuur dmmanisis
raions sWirdeba mmisi gammocdileba.
ra akavSirebs dmmanisis raion-
Tan,, rattomm daTanxmmda ppolittikaSi
Cabmmas,, rogor appirebs raionSi ar-
sebuuli pproblemmebis mmogvarebas da
ranairad gegmmavs saarCevno kammppaniis
warmmarTvas _ amm da sxva SekiTxvebs
dmmanisis raionis mmaJorittarobis
kandidatti paata xizanaSviliuuppasuuxebs.
paata xizanaSvili: _ vfiqrob,
rom mkiTxvelisTvis saintereso iq-
neba vilaparakoT im mizezebze, ra-
mac politikaSi mosvlis survili
gamiCina. Cemi cxovrebis mTavari
idea usamarTlobasTan Seurigebeli
brZola iyo da aris, qarTvel
xalxs mravali qartexili gadagvi-
tania, axla ki bolo wlebis erT-
erTi yvelaze mZime omis mogeba
gvmarTebs. es iqneba gamarjveba sa-
kuTar Tavze, sisustesa da simxda-
leze, ampartavnebasa da damoukide-
beli azrovnebis deficitze, si-
Zulvilsa da cinizmze...
unda vaRiaro, `vardebis revo-
luciis~ Semdeg, sazogadoebis did
nawils, maT Soris mec, Cagvesaxa
imedi imisa, rom xelisuflebaSi
mosuli axali politikuri Zala
qveyanaSi demokratiul cvlilebebs
ganaxorcielebda. saxeldobr: dau-
pirispirdeboda marTvis klanur
sistemas, korufcias, proteqcio-
nizms, gaaTavisuflebda bizness sa-
xelisuflebo wnexisgan da sakuTa-
ri moqalaqeebis kanonier uflebeb-
sa da interesebs daicavda.
_ iseve rogorc bevri Cveni Ta-
namoqalaqe, Tqvenc imedgacruebuli
aRmoCndiT...
_ samwuxarod, xelisuflebaSi
mosulma axalma Zalam araTu ar ga-
naxorciela demokratiuli cvli-
lebebi, kidev ufro ganamtkica qve-
yanaSi totalitaruli mmarTveloba
da elitur-klanuri korufcia da-
amkvidra.
mmarTvelma Zalam, Zalauflebis
SesanarCuneblad, qveynis marTvis
iseTi sistema aago, romelic qvey-
nis aRmSeneblobas ki ara, ngrevas
emsaxureba. mmarTveli gundis mona-
morCilma parlamentma antisaxelm-
wifoebrivi, antimoqalaqeobrivi ka-
nonebi miiRo; faqtobrivad, abuCad
aigdo qveynis upirvelesi kanoni _
konstitucia, absoluturad ugu-
lebelyo saerTaSoriso samarTlis
elementaruli normebi da principe-
bi, sakuTari moqalaqeebis yvelanai-
ri ufleba SebRala...
sabolood, qveyanaSi Seiqmna
iseTi viTareba, roca xelisufle-
bis mmarTvel elitas usityvod
emorCileba sakanonmdeblo, aRmas-
rulebeli, sasamarTlo xelisuf-
leba da masmedia. faqtobrivad, qve-
yanaSi policiuri reJimi damyarda,
romlis mTavari amocana moqalaqeTa
daSineba-daSantaJebaa da ara maTi
dacva, rac civilizebuli saxelm-
wifos xelisufalTa upirvelesi
amocanaa.
_ axla saxelmwifos cxovreba-
Si yvelaze kritikuli momenti
dadga da misi radikaluri Secvlaa
saWiro...
_ marTlac erT-erTi yvelaze
kritikuli da gadamwyveti perio-
dia Cveni qveynis cxovrebaSi _ sa-
xelmwifoebriobasTan erTad gada-
sarCenia saqarTvelo, misi TiToeu-
li moqalaqe, maT Soris isinic,
vinc sxvadasxva garemoebis gamo
iZulebulia, axlandeli xelisuf-
lebis samsaxurSi iyos, an vinc Se-
egua arsebul situacias da moqala-
qeobrivad pasiuria. TiToeulma un-
da vitvirToT Cveni wili pasuxis-
mgebloba, rom Tavi davaRwioT sic-
ruiTa da cinizmiT gajerebul
mdgomareobas, rom CixSi moqceul
qveyanas gadarCenisa da ganviTarebis
perspeqtiva gauCndes.
_ amitomac aRmoCndiT biZina
ivaniSvilis gundis wevri, ufro me-
tic, koalicia `qarTul ocnebas~
warmoadgenT dmanisis raionSi. ro-
gorc cnobilia, koalicia deputa-
tobis kandidatebis SerCevisas
xelmZRvanelobda sami kriteriumiT:
cnobili saxeebi, adgilobrivi kad-
rebi da Tavis dargSi warmatebuli
profesionalebi, sazogadoebis
TvalsaCino warmomadgenlebi. mkiTx-
velisTvis sainteresoa, Tqven ra
kriteriumiT SegarCies?
_ jer erTi, deputatobis kan-
didatad mivdivar raionSi, sadac
davibade, cxovrebis garkveuli
wlebi gavatare da bolos da bo-
los, dmanisis raionSi ama Tu im
soflis mosaZebnad rukis moSveli-
eba ar mWirdeba. am aremareSi Cemi
winaprebi mravali saukunis win da-
saxldnen. amJamad, raionSi bevri Ce-
mi axlobeli Tu naTesavi cxovrobs
da Cemi gvaris fuZe aqaur toponi-
mikaSic aris asaxuli _ dmanisis
raionSi arsebobs xizanaanT ekle-
sia, xizanas wyaro, mTa...
Cems Sromis wignakSi pirveli
Canaweri sofel did gomareTSi,
jer kidev saSualo skolis peri-
odSi swavlisas gaCnda. amitomac
aqaurebis gasaWiri bavSvobidanve
vici da Tu rame ulxinT, esec
cnobilia CemTvis. pirovnuli Rir-
sebis sakiTxad mimaCnia, Tuki ram
SemiZlia, mSobliur raions wavad-
ge.
Tbilisis saxelmwifo universi-
tetis damTavrebis Semdeg, profesi-
iT inJiner-ekonomisti, 27 wlis
ganmavlobaSi administraciul
struqturebSi vmsaxurobdi, maT
Soris, saqarTvelos uSiSroebis
akademiaSi veweodi pedagogiur saq-
mianobas. _ vxelmZRvanelobdi pe-
dagogikisa da fsiqologiis kaTed-
ras. vimsaxure saqarTvelos Seiara-
Rebul ZalebSi xelmZRvanel Tanam-
debobebze, maqvs samxedro Cini _
polkovniki. bolo Svidi welia, sa-
banko sistemaSi vmuSaob _ `banki
qarTus~ sakredito departamentis
ganyofilebas vxelmZRvanelob. ase
rom, Tu trabaxad ar CamiTvliT,
albaT, kandidatTa SerCevis mxo-
lod erTi kriteriumiT ar Semar-
Cies.
Cemi mSoblebi pedagogebi iyvnen.
SesaZloa, vinmes piradul sakiTxad
moeCvenos, magram mainc unda vTqva
_ mamaCemi istorikosi gaxldaT da
surda, arqeologi gavmxdari-
yavi, rom udidesi istoriisa
da uZvelesi kulturiT ga-
morCeuli raionisTvis Tavi
gadamedo _ man piroba Camo-
marTva, lamis anderZad dami-
bara, dmanisi msofliosTvis
gamecno. TiTqos winaswar-
metyvelebda da guli mwyde-
ba, rom mamaCemi ver moeswro
dmanisis naqalaqarSi pirve-
li evropelebis sacxovrisis
aRmoCenas.
_ radganac ase axlo ur-
TierToba gqoniaT dmanisTan,
sxvaze ukeT gecodinebaT,
yvelaze metad ra probleme-
bi awuxebs iqaur mosaxleo-
bas?
_ Cvens raionSi, iseve
rogorc saqarTvelos TiTq-
mis yvela mTian regionSi, mouwyo-
beli infrastruqturaa: ar arse-
bobs gzebi, mosaxleobis gazifika-
cia ukve mravali welia, dauZleve-
li problemaa. erT-erT sofelSi
16 weliwadia Suqic ki ar aris.
arada, vidre axlandeli mmarTveli
gundi xelisuflebaSi movidoda,
raionis soflebSi intensiurad mim-
dinareobda gazifikaciis procesi _
gahyavdaT milebi da umokles xanSi
mosaxleobisTvis gazis miwodebac
igegmeboda. saakaSvilis xelisuf-
lebam Tavidanve fasaduri politi-
kis gatareba daiwyo da qveynis ga-
zifikaciis procesic piarisTvis ga-
moiyena _ milebi arsebobs, masSi ga-
zis gaSvebaze ki aravis arasodes
ufiqria. gazi, erTaderTi, mxolod
raionul centrSia, soflebi ki am
sikeTes moklebulia. dmanisi mdida-
ria tyeebiT da es procesi rom ar
SeCerebuliyo, warmoidgineT, ramde-
ni xe gadaurCeboda gaCexvas da eko-
logiuri safrTxeebic Semcirdebo-
da.
dmanisis raionSi ZiriTadad
Savmiwa niadagia da samwuxaroa, rom
amas bolomde da efeqtianad ver vi-
yenebT. bevria daumuSavebeli savar-
gulebic. Cems bavSvobaSi da Semd-
gom, mowiful asakSic, erT goj mi-
wasac ki ver naxavdiT daumuSave-
bels. aqaurebisTvis sruliad miuw-
vdomelia miwis damuSavebis yvela-
ze martivi sasoflo-sameurneo
teqnikac ki, romelic ara marto
Sromas Seumsubuqebda, aramed gle-
xis muSaobas ufro rentabelurs
gaxdida. qarTveli glexi, TiTqmis
yvelgan, miwas sakuTari xelebis
imedad erkineba. soflad, am mxriv,
isev XX saukunis dasawyisia da
glexs xar-kameCi da guTani Tu Se-
eSveleba isev. es imiT aris gamow-
veuli, rom sawvavi, realur fasTan
SedarebiT, sul cota, 70 TeTriT,
xelovnurad aris gaZvirebuli. me-
urnem misi yidvis fuladi resursi
romc moiZios, sawvavis siZviris ga-
mo mosavlis TviTRirebuleba izr-
deba da Sesabamisad, konkurencias
veRar uwevs ucxoeTidan Semotanil
saeWvo warmomavlobisa da albaT
janmrTelobisTvis mavne, genmodifi-
cirebul iaf produqcias. amas ema-
teba sairigacio sistemis ararsebo-
ba da sasmeli wylis deficiti.
dmanisis raionSi wamyvani dar-
gebia mesaqonleoba da miwaTmoqmede-
ba, romelic aqauri mkacri klima-
turi pirobebis gamo, mravalfero-
vani produqciiT ver gamoirCeva _
aq ZiriTadad saukeTeso jiSis eko-
logiurad sufTa kartofilis moy-
vana SeiZleba, romlis realizacia
aqauri mosaxleobisTvis yovelTvis
problemas warmoadgenda.
raionSi, romlis wamyvani dargi
mesaqonleobaa, faqtobrivad aRar
arsebobs saZovrebi _ igi `naciona-
luri moZraobis~ dmanisis deputa-
tis naTesaobam Caigdo xelSi da sa-
mi aTas heqtarze meti saZovari mo-
saxleobisTvis ukve xelmiuwvdome-
li gaxda.
saxelmwifos axlandeli mmarT-
veli gundis gaumarTlebeli poli-
tikis Sedegad, qveyanaSi uamravi
problema dagrovda. TiTo-orola
gamonaklisis garda, gansakuTrebiT
mZime dReSi aRmoCnda regionebi;
faqtobrivad, soflis meurneoba sa-
xelmwifoebrivi yuradRebis miRma
darCa iseT qveyanaSi, romlis ganvi-
Tarebis erT-erTi umTavresi prio-
riteti agraruli dargis ganviTa-
reba unda yofiliyo.
_ swored aseTi politikis Se-
degia, rom soflebi icleba. Tqven
iseTi suraTi daxateT, mosaxleo-
bis migracia Tqveni raionisTvisac
ar aris ucxo...
_ drouli SekiTxvaa. Cems dros
gomareTis skolaSi, albaT gagik-
virdebaT da, 1200 bavSvi swavlob-
da, daaxloebiT imdeni moswavle,
ramdenic Tbilisis Cveulebriv sa-
jaro skolebSia. amJamad ki, anu 30-
35 wlis Semdeg, 100 moswavleRaa.
asea sxva soflebSic. gausaZlisi
pirobebisa da elementaruli sayo-
facxovrebo pirobebis uqonlobis
gamo, verc gaamtyuneb, Tuki adamia-
nebi, TavianTi nebis sawinaaRmdegod,
mSobliur keras toveben. TiTqmis
arc erT sofelSi aRar SemorCa
medpunqtebi da xalxs elementaru-
li samedicino daxmarebis miRebis
saSualeba ar gaaCnia. isini, faqtob-
rivad, bedis anabarad arian mitove-
buli da amis gamo xSiria letalu-
ri SemTxvevebic. amasTan, farmacev-
tuli bazari, iseve rogorc sxva,
TiTqmis yvela momgebiani dargi mo-
nopolizebulia da mosaxleobas me-
dikamentebis yidvis saSualebac ar
gaaCnia.
_ dRes arsebuli praqtikiT, ma-
Joritari deputatis funqciebi
umeteswilad aRreulia _ Zneli ga-
samijnia, ra aris centralizebu-
lad mosagvarebeli problema da ra
_ adgilobrivi xelisuflebis kom-
petencia. Tqven ras fiqrobT, raio-
nis problemebidan ra iqneba Tqveni
upirvelesi sazrunavi?
_ sazogadoebas ver SevuqmniT
imaze met molodins, rac SegviZlia
am etapze gavakeToT. amitomac kar-
gad unda gaviazroT Cveni SesaZleb-
lobebi, romlebic realobas Seesa-
bameba. amis Sesabamisad unda davsa-
xoT da mosaxleobas SevTavazoT
axlandeli Tu Soreul perspeqti-
vaze gaTvlili gegmebi. koalicias
SemuSavebuli aqvs saxelmwifos
ganviTarebis safuZvliani koncefcia
_ saprogramo dokumenti, romelic
moicavs qveynis politikuri, soci-
aluri da ekonomikuri ganviTarebis
mimarTulebebs. maT Soris gansakuT-
rebuli adgili eTmoba regionebis
ganviTarebas.
erT-erT upirveles amocanad
mimaCnia mosaxleobis dasaqmeba, re-
gionaluri mcire sawarmoebis Seqm-
na, investiciebi, glexisTvis xelmi-
sawvdomi iafi kreditebi, biznesis
gaTavisufleba mudmivi SiSisgan da
zogadad samarTlianobis dabruneba.
Cven TiToeul moqalaqes unda gavu-
CinoT samarTlianobisa da pirovnu-
li Tavisuflebis, daculobis ganc-
da, radgan adamianis Rirseba samar-
TlianobaSia.
_ axlandeli mmarTveli gundi
azerbaijaneli eleqtoratis garan-
tirebul xmebs iRebda yovelTvis.
amis gaTvaliswinebiT, ras upirispi-
rebT nacionalebis `propagandis-
tul manqanas~, romliTac arsebuli
balansis Secvlas moaxerxebdiT?
_ propagandistul, cinizmiT
savse politikas unda davupirispi-
roT simarTle da patiosneba. Ti-
Toeulma adamianma unda SeZlos da
sakuTari xma daicvas, iswavlos ga-
dawyvetilebis damoukideblad mi-
Reba. Cven ar vupirispirdebiT kon-
kretul adamianebs, Cven unda visw-
rafvoT win sikeTisa da samarTli-
ani garemos Sesaqmnelad.
unda movaxerxo da arCevnebamde
darCenil mcire droSi TiToeul
sofelSi Cavide, sofel-sofel Ca-
moviaro, TiToeuli ojaxisa Tu
adamianis gasaWirs gavecno; davinte-
resdebi Cveni azerbaijaneli Tana-
moqalaqeeebis problemebiT, romle-
bic miviwyebulni arian yvelasgan
da xelisuflebas mxolod saarCev-
nod, xmebis misacemad axsendeba.
Cemi mama-papebisgan maxsovs, ro-
gor megobrobdnen isini azerbaija-
nelebTan. miuxedavad imisa, rom im
dros mimosvla gaZnelebuli iyo
utransportobis gamo, mainc axer-
xebdnen mWidro urTierTobebis dam-
yarebas. amJamad es tradicia moS-
lilia _ qarTvelebisa da azerbai-
janelebis megobrobis gza aq, dux-
Wiri cxovrebis gamo, karga xania,
sarevela balaxma dafara. unda ga-
ikvalos es biliki da aRarasodes
amovides iq balaxi.
adgilobrivi mosaxleoba aqtiu-
rad unda Caebas TavianTi probleme-
bis mogvarebaSi. me Cems jgufTan
erTad Seviswavli, Tu ra awuxebT
aqaurebs, am problemebis mogvarebis
gzebze Sesabamisi dargis specia-
listebTan erTad vimsjelebT, xo-
lo TviTon problemis mogvarebis
procesSi, rogorc aRvniSne, auci-
leblad mosaxleobasTan erTad viS-
romeb.
esaubra g. WavWavaZe
paata xizanaSvili: paata xizanaSvili:
`CixSi moqceul qveyanas gadarCenisa da ganviTarebisperspeqtiva gauCnda~
11#34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi
saqarTvelos `leiboristul-
ma partiam~ oficialuri ganacxadi
Seitana saparlamento arCevnebSi
monawileobasTan dakavSirebiT da
rogorc partiis liderebma brZa-
nes, agrZeleben ukompromiso brZo-
las saakaSvil-ivaniSvilis mZarc-
velur, kriminalur, oligarqiuli
bandebis winaaRmdeg, romlebmac ga-
Zarcves, gaaRatakes da daaqcies es
qveyana. maTi umTavresi devizi iq-
neba `mdidars varTmevT, Raribs _
vaZlevT!~
`Tu ar ganeitralda es banda,
romelic daeufla mTeli qveynis
qonebas da gaaRataka, gaaRariba da
gaaubedura danarCeni mosaxleoba,
Tu amaT lagami ar amosvdeT, Tu,
kargi gagebiT, ar gavparseT da ar
movwveleT da es maTi naZarcvi qo-
neba xalxs ar davubruneT, ise, am
qveyanas gadarCena ar uweria~. vir-
CevT an gadarCenis gzas `leibo-
ristuli partiis~ (Salva naTe-
laSvilis saxiT), an virCevT oli-
garq mdidarTa gzas, romlebic ga-
agrZeleben am qveynis Zarcvas, ga-
agrZeleben am qveynis ngrevas, ga-
Ratakebas, Cvens daCagvras da Cvens
Svilebs amiTi movuspobT moma-
vals. Cven imedi gvaqvs, qarTveli
xalxi brZenia da gaakeTebs swor
arCevans~, _ aseTia maTi saerTo
azri.
saqarTveloSi, albaT, bevr
axsovs `vardebis revoluciamde~
batoni naTelaSvili wamdauwum
rom gaiZaxoda, zogierTebiviT
dalxinebuli ki ar var, samzareu-
loSi `leJankaze~ mZinavso. maSin
im msmenels Tu mayurebels egona,
baton Salvas (zogadad `leibo-
ristul partias~) tanSi dro da
dro rom `aJuilebs~, gamouZineb-
lobis braliao da gauTvlel Tu
piriqiT, kargad gaTvlil aca-baca
politikur nabijebs didsulov-
nad utevebda mSromelTa partiis
Tavkacs.
mas Semdeg, Tu meti
ara, sruli aTi weli mainc
gavida. baton Salvas aRar
uxsenebia `leJankaze~ Zili,
anu unda vivaraudoT, rom
`eSmakis manqanebiT~ rogor-
Rac SeZlo `kraotis~ SeZe-
na, magram raRac ucnauroba
ki dautrialdaT partiaSi,
amjerad sruliad `leibo-
ristuli Tavkacoba~ hgavs
gamouZinebels. gamouZine-
bels kidev ra uSavs, TiT-
qos, SeRamebulze, janmr-
Teli ZiliT rom unda eZi-
nos yvela normalur adami-
ans, mRviZared yofnas aiZu-
leben TiToeul maTgans da fsiqi-
kas uZilobiT uryeven. gamoiSle-
bian mere dRisiT da 10-TeTriani
`fiSkebiviT~ cxel-cxel gancxade-
bebs, saCivrebs, mowodebebs da po-
litikuri kulinariis sxvadasxva
Sedevrebs acxoben.
batonma Salvam brZana, vinc
vaSingtonSi, TeTr saxlTan Cems
politikur SeZaxils: `daun vi
diqteite! daun vi diqteite!~ ro-
melic ideaSi gulisxmobda
moTxovnas: `Zirs diqtatori!~
(Down The Dictation!) dascinebs,
mindorSi dagdebuli dakreWili
mkvdari viriao. dacinva ra sakad-
risia, piriqiT, orive xeliT unda
miesalmo diqtatoris Zirs Camog-
deb-CamobrZanebas, magram amxela
moTxovna rom aqvs adamians, an
adamianTa jgufs, mTlad Tu ara,
cota xom mainc unda gamoiZinon?
sxvas kidev, SeiZ-
leba, magram profesi-
idan gamomdinare, ba-
ton Salvas ra eswav-
leba, im sxvaze ukeT
icis, rogor urevdnen
(axla, ra Tqma unda,
sxva xerxs mimarTaven
saqarTveloSi) Tavg-
zas dakavebul pirs
uZilobiT.
gaugebaria, rat-
om ar iZinebs da arc
Tanapartielebs aZin-
ebs batoni Salva?
ar Semomedavos
romelime maTgani, mS-
venivrad var gamoZine-
buli da arc ZilSi
mimirtyams Tavi rame-
zeo, Torem, gamouZineblobas ra
uSavs, namdvilad uaress vifiqreb,
miTumetes, rom mxolod batoni
Salvas `leJankaze~ Zili ki ara,
sxvac bevri ram maxsovs aTi wlis
winandeli.
TaTariaxnad erT ambavs gavix-
seneb, batonebis, saakaSvilisa da
naTelaSvilis `gabaasebas~ 2003
wlis Tebervalis bolos paraske-
vis `Ramis kurierSi~.
mayurebels rom egona, amiran
da devi Seibmebian, ra gveSveleba,
daingreva `rusTavi-2-is~ miuker-
Zoebuli studiao, imedi gaucruv-
da _ miSa darigebuli bavSviviT
Cumad ijda (albaT, Salvas mier
misTvis daTmobili sakrebulos
skamis xaTriT da araa gamoricxu-
li isic, rom piarSikebs daerige-
binaT, ar aqoTqoTdeo), batoni
Salva ki, uberavda `kamaziviT,~
mxolod erTxel aijagra miSa.
aRar maxsovs, rasTan dakavSi-
rebiT, magram batonma Salvam bebia
uxsena miSas. bebiao?! `daanebe be-
biaCems Tavi!~ – ixuvla miSam.
bebiaSens mec did pativs
vcem, magram Sen rom parazitolo-
giis institutSi komkavSiris ko-
mitetis Tavmjdomare iyavi, mere
ki, SevardnaZis fraqciis Tavmjdo-
mare, eg rogor iyoo? _ miuRimi-
la saxeganaTebulma naTelaSvilma.
SevardnaZesTan Senc gadasare-
vad siamtkbilobdi, iuridiuli
komitetis Tavmjdomarec iyavi da
partkomic brZandebodi Tavis
droze, aba, jer Sen miTxari, eg
rogor iyoo? _ ar Seepua miSa.
`gabaaseba~ imiT damTavrda,
rom pirdapir eTerSi lamis xeli
moaweres erTmaneTis warsulze
Tavdausxmelobis paqts. maTi Jri-
amulidan bevri da didi veraferi
gaigo mayurebelma, magram is ki
cxadi gaxda, rom bebiebi aSkarad
sxvadasxva hyoliaT, rac Seexeba
babuas, oRond politikurs _ sa-
erTo da ara mxolod babua...
axla, am saeWvod ajanyebul
leiboristebs rom mohkres Tvali,
maT erT nawils, visac mexsiere-
ba SenarCunebuli aqvT, kiTxva da-
ebadaT, amaT, miSas da Salvas,
mxolod babua ki ara, naTliac sa-
erTo xom ar hyavT da Tanac ru-
sio? meore nawili gaepasuxa, ru-
si – ho, magram araa gamoricxuli
`kagebeSnikic~ rom iyoso.
gagixaria! – TiTqos maT gul-
Si ijdao, aliluiasaviT zepirad
Camoarakraka batonma Temur SaSi-
aSvilma iseTi eWvSeuvali ambebi
brifingze da ise garkveviT, rom
gamouZinebeli kaci ki ara, mZina-
rec rom gaigebs.
Temur SaSiaSvili: _ `Tqven
xedavT, rom yoveldRe mixeil sa-
akaSvili da misi gundi ras ar
akadrebs mis politikur oponen-
tebs da pirveli braldeba
aris ruseTTan urTierTobebi.
minda giTxraT, rom yvela biz-
nesmeni (Tqven SegiZliaT mki-
TxoT, romeli ar aris), rome-
lic dRes mixeil saakaSvilis
gverdiT aris, vinc xelSi Ca-
igdo `silqnetica~ da eleqt-
ronul mediasTan dakavSirebu-
li mTeli rigi sakiTxebi, yve-
la biznesmeni, romelic dRes
saarCevno procesSi dgas `na-
cionaluri moZraobis~ gver-
diT, yvela es xalxi aris Ca-
mosuli ruseTidan, ruseTis
fulia da ruseTis biznesia
maTTan dakavSirebuli.
saerTod, xelisufleba,
romelic internets akontro-
lebs, is xelisufleba im qvey-
nis xelisufleba aRar aris, am
qveyanaSi ki akontrolebs swo-
red is gundi, romelic ruse-
Tidan Camoiyvana batonma saa-
kaSvilma, Tanac, es is adamianebi
arian, romelTac seriozuli biz-
nesi aqvT. Cven ar vlaparakobT,
rom vinmem benzingasamarTi sadgu-
ri an restorani aaSena, aq aris
saubari milionebze, romelsac
isini mixeil saakaSvilis miTiTe-
biT ama Tu im regionSi deben. mTe-
li rigi organizaciebi gaakotres,
saintereso pirovnebebi da
maT Soris, xelSi Caigdes
saagentoebic.
dRes, praqtikulad,
araviTari Seferxeba ar
aqvT, pirdapir Tu iribad,
saqarTveloSi yvela Ziri-
Tadi biznesis ukan rusu-
li kompaniebi dgas. Cveni,
rogorc sabadoebi, aseve
energetika, tyeebi, buneb-
rivi resursebis Zalian
didi nawili, dakavSirebu-
lia ruseTTan.
generali generalovi,
romelic aris `kgb-is~ ge-
nerali, `dum-is~ wevri da
daaxloebuli xelisuflebasTan,
Zalian seriozul gavlenas axdens
rusuli biznesis ganviTarebaze sa-
qarTveloSi. es is generalovia,
romlis Camosvlis winaaRmdegi
2003 wlamde iyo albaT, bevri da
maT Soris mec, roca baton Sevar-
dnaZes vuTxari, rom Tu `kgb-is~
general;i generalovi saqarTvelo-
Si Camova, icodeT, rom amas yvela-
fers xmamaRla vityvi, rom ruse-
Tis fuli da ruseTis `kgb-is~
warmomadgeneli SemoiyvaneT saqar-
TveloSi – es saubari maSin Zali-
an mZimed Sedga.
praqtikulad, gadawyvetili
iyo, rom es biznesi Semosuliyo
da misi warmomadgeneli gaxldaT
bolnisis dRevandeli deputati
batoni nayofia, romelic viTom
gamovida am biznesidan – Svili
datova da misi Svilis (19 Tu 21
wlis) yovelTviuri xelfasi Se-
adgens naxevar milion lars Tve-
Si. pirdapir vambob, is aris `kgb-
is~ general generalovis warmo-
madgeneli saqarTveloSi. aseTive
mdgomareobaa WiaTura iqneba, zes-
tafoni Tu romeli, mniSvnelovani
rac aris CvenTan, yvelafris ukan
dganan rusuli kompaniebi.
gansakuTrebulad minda Seve-
xo `raoeess~. Tqven iciT, rom es
aris rusuli kompania, romelic
Semovida saqarTveloSi. rodesac
amerikelebi yiddnen `Telass~, ba-
tonma saakaSvilma atexa mTeli am-
bavi, ratom xdeba, rom amerikele-
bi gadian da rusuli kompania Se-
modiso _ Semdgom gairkva, rom ma-
Ti lobirebiT Semodiodnen da am
lobirebis magaliTebi grZeldeba
dRemde.
gaxsovT, maSin batoni Cubaisi
Camovida saqarTveloSi, Sexvda ba-
ton saakaSvils, Sexvda Zalian
bevrs, baton Jvanias, daregulirda
es saqme da daregulirebulia
dRemde. aseve gaxsovT, iyo aq di-
reqtori, Tu ar vcdebi, panfilo-
vi iyo misi gvari, romlis iubile
erTi wlis win taS-fanduriT aRi-
niSna saqarTveloSi, romelsac es-
wrebodnen maSindeli premier-mi-
nistri gilauri, qalaqis meri,
dRevandeli energetikis ministri,
uamravi ministri da saqarTvelos
xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebi.
amis Semdgomad sami ministri
Sexvda erTmaneTs somxeTSi, ruse-
Tis, somxeTisa da saqarTvelos
policiis maSindeli ministri ba-
toni vano merabiSvili, sadac mTe-
li rigi gadawyvetilebebi iqna mi-
Rebuli – ori Zlieri, me vityo-
di strategiuli hesi: `xrami-1~
da `xrami-2~, praqtikulad, gadae-
ca ruseTs.
jer kidev 1997-1998 wels
noRaidelis mier aris, rodesac
`raoeesi~ Semodioda da saboolo-
od oficialurad gaformdnen
2002-2003 wlebSi, rom 2014
wlidan unda gadaxediliyo fasebi
eleqtroenergiaze misi Semcirebi-
saken. rodesac es sami ministri
Sexvda erTmaneTs, es gadaido
2024 wlamde.
rusuli kompania `raoeesi~
saqarTvelos TiToeuli moqalaqis
jibidan, yovel kilovat/sT ener-
giaze iRebs 3-4 TeTriT mets,
romliTac unda Semcirebuliyo
fasi. Tu Tqven amas gadaiyvanT
TanxebSi, ras niSnavs es, ramdeni
kvt/sT-ia – es miliardebia.
ukve cnobilia, rom bolnisis
sabadoebidan, rac rusuli kompa-
nia damkvidrda, 2 miliard do-
larze meti aqvs miRebuli, anu sa-
qarTvelos fuli rusuli kompani-
is xelSi aRmoCnda saqarTveloSi.
isev vubrundebi `raoeess~,
panfilovi ganTavisuflda (2-3
Tvis win xdeba es yvelaferi) da
mis adgilze dainiSna somxeTis
moqalaqe. pirdapir vTqvaT, imis
gamo, rom xmebi miiRos xelisuf-
lebam iqidan, sadac kompaqturad
dasaxlebuli arian somexi erovne-
bis adamianebi saqarTveloSi, som-
xeTis Sss-is ministris lobire-
biT da ara mxolod misi, moxda
swored am pirovnebis daniSvna. sa-
qarTveloSi dRes `raoees-is~
xelmZRvaneli da ori pirveli pi-
ri vinc aris, oriveni arian
somxeTis moqalaqeebi da orive-
ni, erTi maRali rangis, meore
_ dabali rangis `kgb-is~ muSa-
kebi.
rogorc giTxariT, ori
moqalaqe Semovida somexi, xo-
lo ori _ qarTveli. TqvenTvis
sainteresoa, vin arian es qar-
Tvelebi – rusul kompania `ra-
oeesSi~ teqnikuri direqtori
(erT-erTi upirvelesi da um-
Tavresi figura) gaxda batoni
arsoSvili, (yofili guberna-
tori da yofili Ss ministris
moadgile-m.W) nu, axla, saqar-
TveloSi visac sjera, rom na-
cionalebis didi sayrdeni ar
aris, darCes mis azrze da meo-
re, xaCiZis yofili moadgile,
romelmac nacionaluri moZrao-
bis organizacia Camoayaliba
aWaraSi, vinme futkaraZe _
lojistikis departamentis
ufrosad dainiSna.
rogorc gavarkvieT, aseTi we-
si yofila, 12 kaci zis moskovSi,
`raoeesis~ did sabWoSi, xuTi TviT
adre urigdebaT pirTa biografiu-
li monacemebi da es 12 kaci iRebs
gadawyvetilebas, dainiSnos Tu ara
wardgeneli piri Tanamdebobaze. ver
getyviT, romelia energetikosi, an
ra urTierTobebi hqondaT enegeti-
kasTan, magram batoni arsoSvili
da batoni futkaraZe daniSnulebi
arian moskovSi arsebuli am sabWos
mier da maTi misvla `raoeesSi~ da-
iwyo imiT, rom politikuri niSniT
samsaxuridan gaaTavisufles (Cven
viciT, rom 300 kacis farglebSia)
adamianebi da maT adgilze mihyavT
mxolod `nacionalebis~ mier reko-
mendirebuli pirebi. (zurab arsoS-
vilma Tan gaiyola Tavisi megobre-
bi, e.w zonderebi: Semosavlebis
ganyofilebis ufrosad _ aleko
laSiaSvili; energogasaRebis ganyo-
filebaSi _ avTo metiviSvili; teq-
nikur samsaxurSi _ eliko qoba-
lia; Tavisi modeli meuRle TaTa
qarTveliSvili, `stereos~ yofili
wamyvani _ rac dadasturebulia _
m.W)
dRes, realurad, is somxeTis
moqalaqeebi saerTo xelmZRvane-
lobas ukeTeben kompanias, Torem
ZiriTad sakiTxebze muSaoben swo-
red arsoSvili da futkaraZe.
`nacmoZraobis~ ori mTavari saxe
rusuli kompaniis mTavari saxeebi
arian saqarTveloSi.
miSas da Salvas erTi naTlia xom ar hyavT _
rusi da Tanac `kakebeSniki?~
12 gv.
12 saerTo gazeTi #34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.
Tu rogor emzadeba nacxelisufle-
ba arCevnebisTvis?? amis Sesaxeb `̀saerTo
gazeTs~ arasamTavrobo organizacia
`̀samoqqalaqqo frontis~ lideri jabajiSkariani esaubra.
_ jaba, rogorc amboben, vasil sa-
noZe gamojanmrTelebula da maRal pos-
tzec dauniSnavT. Tqven Tu gaqvT amis
Sesaxeb raime informacia?
_ ramdenadac vici, sanoZis dabrune-
ba undodaT Sss-s geninspeqciis ufro-
sis postze. im gaxmaurebuli faqtis
Semdeg giorgi gegeWkori daniSnes mis
adgilze, magram axla roca gegeWkori
saxlSi wavida, sanoZis am postze dab-
runebaze midis saubari. sazogadoebas
kargad axsovs misi araerTi kriminalu-
ri qmedeba, dawyebuli sandro girgvli-
anis mkvlelobiT. 2009 wlis mitinge-
bis dros CitaZis quCaze mdebare uSiS-
roebis samsaxuris aivnidan igi viTom
wylian parkebsa da `kistis~ Tofis
tyviebs esroda aqciis monawileebs, si-
namdvileSi ki pnevmaturi iaraRidan
pirdapir saxeSi, TvalebSi esroda
xalxs tyviebs. es iaraRi `kistis~
Tofze aTjer ufro mZlavria.
maRal Tanamdebobaze daniSnes megis
qardavas Zmac, romelic Tavis `saxelo-
van~ ZmasTan erTad uSualod monawile-
obda 2007 wlis 28 oqtombers zug-
didSi momxdar incidentSi, rodesac Za-
ladobrivad gauswordnen opozicione-
rebs. am pirovnebis saxels ukavSirdeba
zugdidSi arCevnebis gayalbeba, saarCev-
no yuTebis gataceba, adamianebis mota-
ceba, daSineba da muqara. sod-is axlad-
daniSnuli ufrosi irakli boWoriSvi-
li, 2009 wlis 28 maiss parlamentTan
ganxorcielebul darbevas xelmZRvane-
lobda. is kud-is 200-kacian zonderb-
rigadasTan erTad Semovarda furcela-
Zis quCidan. mis gamo zis dRes cixeSi
Cveni organizaciis wevri Salva gogi-
naSvili. Salvas boWoriSvilis daWra
daabrales da 15-wliani patimroba miu-
sajes. goginaSvils maSin e.w. duti
qurTuki ecva da iman gadaarCina, Torem
mis qurTukze basri sagniT miyenebuli
aTamde dazianeba daviTvaleT. am zon-
derjgufs TviTon hqonda basri iaraRe-
bi, romelsac umisamarTod iqnevdnen da
boWoriSvilic Tu marTla daWrili
iyo, TviTonve daWridnen. Salvas advo-
katma am qurTukze eqspertizis Catare-
ba moiTxova, magram saakaSvilis mona
mosamarTlem, es Suamdgomloba ar daak-
mayofila. goginaSvili roca daiWires,
piradad boWoriSvili xelmZRvanelobda
mis wamebas Zveli Tbilisis raionis po-
liciaSi. maSin am policiis ufrosi
irakli yifSiZe gaxldaT. axla isic da-
awinaures da Tbilisis Ss mTavari sam-
marTvelos ufrosad daniSnes. yifSiZem
pirad kontrolze aiyvana goginaSvilis
wameba, misi kabinetis gverdiT oTaxSi
scemdenen svel zewarSi gaxveul gogi-
naSvils da aiZulebdnen eTqva, rom rag-
bis federaciis yofili prezidenti bi-
Zina gegiZe kriminalia, mas hqonda civi
iaraRi da ukanono kriminalur dajgu-
febebs qmnida.
yvela es dawinaurebuli piri, dana-
Saulebrivi klanis wevrebi, e.w. zonde-
rebi arian. saakaSvili rom keklucobs,
qurduli instituti movspeo, ki ar
mospo, saxelmwifo rangSi aiyvana da
gacilebiT uaresi principebiT moqmede-
ben.
- xelisuflebas policiis da saer-
Tod Zalovnebis imedi hqonda yovelT-
vis da cxadia, axlac maTi ime-
di aqvs, rom daicaven. maT ami-
tomac anebivrebda, Tumca bolo
xans, aqtiurad vrceldeba xmebi,
rom am uwyebebis warmomadgen-
lebs xelfass veRar uxdian,
ufro metic operatiul avto-
manqanebs sawvavsac veRar usxa-
meno. ras fiqrobT, uxelfaso
formiani kaci am reJimis dasa-
cavad xalxs daupirispirdeba?
- daviwyeb imiT, rom aero-
portis gverdiT momzadebuli
aqvT 18 metri siganis specialu-
ri moedani, sadac Sss specrazms
ki ara, kriminaluri policiis
danayofebs amecadinebs. wvrTnis
dros gazis pistoletebs iyene-
ben, rezinis tyviebis samizneebic aqvT
gakeTebuli da mizanSi srolas aswav-
lian, im iaraRiTac amecadineben, rome-
lic mxolod erTxel, 2009 wlis 6 ma-
isis darbevis dros gamiyenes, roca or
adamians Tvali gamosTxares, danarCe-
nebs ki Tavebi dauxeTqes. es araleta-
luri iaraRia, romelic safantis tipis
tyvias isvris, 100 metris manZilze
moqmedebs, adamianis sxeulSi naxevari
santimetris siRrmeze Sedis da natyvi-
aris garSemo 10 santimetris diametr-
Si Slis da fleTs sxeuls.
ramdenadac vici, am proeqts Ss mi-
nistris TanamdebobaSenarCunebuli mo-
adgile Salva janaSvili xelmZRvane-
lobs. es aris `ruxi kardinali~, rome-
lic dRemde ar Cans. kuluaruli in-
formaciiT, 7 noembris mitingis dros
vano merabiSvils ki ara, swored mas
daureka saakaSvilma droze daarbieT
xalxi, raRas ucdiTo.
rac Seexeba policiis finansur si-
duxWires, mogexsenebaT, am uwyebas bi-
Zina ivaniSvili afinansebda. mimdinare
wlis 31 marts arsebuli kontraqti ga-
uqmda da dafinansebac Sewyda. saakaS-
vils saerTod uWirs ufulod mobili-
zeba. man bolo xans Sekriba `karis~
biznesmenebi, romlebsac fulis dadeba
sTxova. Cemi informaciiT `zaralas~
(yofili `mxedrioneli~ ramiSvili), ke-
zeraSvilsa da benduqiZes didi fuli
mosTxova da seriozuli Cxubic moxda,
radgan maT ar dades imdeni, ramdensac
saakaSvili arCevnebisTvis eloda. vfiq-
rob, es adamianebi grZnoben saakaSvilis
reJimi rom mTavrdeba da fiqroben, ar
gariskon, vinaidan xelisufleba Tu Se-
icvala da gaqceva mouwiaT, SeinarCunon
es fuli. esec iluziaa, radgan yvela
maTgans aucileblad movZebniT, erT
TeTrsac ar SevarCenT da yvelafers,
rac maT am wlebis ganmavlobaSi moipa-
res, biujetSi davabrunebinebT.
- jaba, xelisufleba rom masobrivi
gayalbebisTvis emzadeba, es aSkarad
Cans. amisTvis raime damatebiTi meqaniz-
mebic xom ar SeimuSaves?
_ amasTan dakavSirebiT seriozuli
informaciebi gvaqvs da vmuSaobT, vapi-
rebT gamoviyvanoT is adamianebi, rom-
lebic am yvelaferze Riad ilaparake-
ben. `saqarTvelos bankSi~ Tbilisis
meriam studentebis dasaqmebis prog-
rama daiwyo, maT pirdapir uniSnaven
xelfasebs, oRond jer piradobis
mowmobebs arTmeven, iqidan nomrebs
iweren da Semdeg ricxaven maT saTana-
do siebSi. sxvaTa Soris, amas hqvia
somxuri kareseli. arCevnebis wina
dRes am adamianebs dauZaxeben, miscemen
saarCevno biuletenebs, sadac xuTiani
winaswar iqneba Semoxazuli. am biule-
tens isini saarCevno kabinaSi Seitanen
Secvlian da yuTebSi ise Cayrian, ca-
riel biuletens ki meore dRes naci-
onalebs miutanen. es iqneba imis garan-
tia, rom maT namdvilad nacmoZraobas
misces xma.
isic minda giTxraT, rom marto
studentebs ki ara, bankis TanamSrom-
leblebs, maswavleblebsa da Cems uam-
rav Tbilisel nacnobsac SesTavazes ba-
Tumis jazfestivalze ufasod wagiy-
vanT, oRond piradobis mowmoba mogve-
ciTo. bolo ori Tvis manZilze, uamra-
vi axalgazrda daiWires iseTi wvril-
manisTvis, razec adre ar iWerdnen, ra-
Ta maTi mSoblebi da garemocva aiZu-
lon, rom saarCevno xmebi da piradobis
mowmobebi miutanon. dakavebulebs mere
gamouSveben da arCevnebSi gamoiyeneben.
saqme imaSia, rom am meqanizms veravin
SeebrZoleba, radgan am xalxs realu-
rad eqneba `nacmoZraobis~ sasargeblod
xma micemuli. amitomac vambob, 2008
wlidan moyolebuli, rom arCevnebi ar-
Cevnebamde unda movigoT da ara arCevne-
bis dRes. rogorc vici, mixeil maWava-
riani da xaTuna gogoriSvili arian am
yvelaferze momuSave Stabis wevrebi.
isini Sexvdnen Cems megobrebs, Tumca ar
icodnen, rom Cemi megobrebi iyvnen da
pirdapir SesTavazes, as piradobis mow-
mobas Tu moitanT 5000 lars mogcem-
To.
arsebobs safuZvliani eWvi, rom xe-
lisufleba am arCevnebSi gegmavs 65 Tu
80% daiweros. amasTan dakavSirebiT
`maestroze~ gasul siuJets, albaT,
yvela moismenda. am yvelafris Semdeg
merabiSvilis kai kacobaze saubari, ub-
ralod sircxvilia.
manana suxiSvili
Cems megobrebs pirdapir uTxres: asi piradobis mowmoba mogvitaneT
da 5000 lars mogcemTo
rusul kompaniaSi muSaobda (xan Tavisuf-
ldeba, roca gaakritikeben) da dRes, ramdenadac
viciT, aris _ mixeil maWavarianis Zma, romelic
dakavSirebulia bolnisTan; baramiZis Zma, rome-
lic dakavSirebulia Savi zRvis erT-erT por-
tTan; bokerias sidedri muSaobs `ra-o-es-Si~ da
ara mxolod is. energetikis ministris, batoni
xeTaguris 12-mde axlobeli maRali rangis war-
momadgenelia `ra-o-es-is~ sistemaSi. minda ico-
deT maTi xelfasebi _ 15 000 dolarze nakle-
bi arc erTs ar aqvs 30 000-40 000 dolaram-
de aris TveSi. ai, ase kargad arian ganawilebu-
li rusul kompaniebSi xelisuflebis warmomad-
genlebis ojaxis wevrebi.
maCvenon msoflioSi erTi kompania, Tundac
rusuli, sadac im qveynis mmarTveli politiku-
ri Zalis warmomadgenlebi arian warmmarTvele-
bi, igive somxeTSi, igive azerbaijanSi da sadac
gindaT, Tanac, es yvelaferi moxda arCevnebis
win.
kidev erTxel vambob, rusuli kompaniebi
arian yvelaze didi lobistebi am saarCevno pe-
riodSei mixeil saakasvilisa da ruseTidan Ca-
mosuli biznesmenebi...~
rac batonma Temurma Tqva, imis realur su-
raTs Tu ver xedaven `leiboristebi~, jandabas,
CavTvaloT, rom isev gamouZineblobis mizeziT
aqvT Tvalebi dabletili, magram Tu arc esmiT,
gamouZineblobasTan erTad mwvave otitis prob-
lemac hqoniaT.
SeiZleba, rusebisTvis miyiduli yvela obi-
eqti arc icodes kacma an yvela maTgani verc
gaixsenos, magram saqarTvelos ZiriTadi stra-
tegiuli obieqtebi mainc gamaxsovrdeba, miTume-
tes, rom ruseTzea miyiduli: `Telasi~, `Jin-
valhesi~, `varcixe 1~, `varcixe 2~, `varcixe 3~,
varcixe 4~, `xrami 1~, `xrami 2~, `xrami 3~ _
mflobeli `raoeesi~; `xrami 4~ _ mSeneblobis
nebarTva `raoeesis~ xelSekrulebiT; `xrami 5~,
`engurhesi~, gardabnis `me-9 energobloki~,
`gardabnis me-10 energobloki~, `Saorhesi~, `a-
Waris wyali~ _ mflobeli `energopro; `yazt-
ransgazTbilisi` _ mflobeli rusuli kompania
`energoinvesti~; `gumbaTi 1~ da `gumbaTi 2~ _
mflobeli CexeTSi registrirebuli rusuli
kompania `energopro~; `lajanurhesi~, `madneu-
li~, `kvarciti~, `Tbilisis wyali~, `elmavalm-
Senebeli~ _ es, rac gamaxsenda.
rogorc amboben, mxolod rkinigza da gaz-
sadeniRa darCa rusebisTvis gadasacemi da saoq-
tombrod, albaT, masac gadascemen, `engurhesi~
xom swored agvistos omis Semdeg gadaeca ru-
seTs, raTa ar `CamoSliliyo~ sisxliT naSeni
`nacxelisufleba~...
ragind moZule iyos kaci (Tu kacia) `ru-
seTis agent mZarcvel ivaniSvilisa~, is mainc
unda aRiaros, rom `am mZarcvels~ saqarTvelo
ar gauZarcvavs, piriqiT, lamis saqarTvelos bi-
ujetisodena Tanxa aqvs Sewiruli wlebis man-
Zilze saqarTvelosTvis, rom misi arseboba ar
icoda imave saqarTvelom.
ruseTis Tema rusuli fulianad rom yve-
la arsebuli parametriT TiTidan xelovnurad
gamowovili `buas Temaa~, karga xania, rac naTe-
lia. iqneb, sjobdes, yvela misma moZulem Tavis
wilad Tqvas, sinamdvileSi ratom ebrZvis yve-
la xerxiT ivaniSvils?
maia WeliZe
11 gv.
miSas da SalvaserTi naTlia
xom ar hyavT _ rusi da Tanac`kakebeSniki?~
13saerTo gazeTi#34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.
prezident mixeil saakaSvilis 2011
wlis 15 noembris brZanebulebiT Seqmnilma
21 kacisgan dakompleqtebulma siebis da-
zustebis saxelmwifo komisiam, sadac mmar-
Tveli partiis, opoziciuri partiebisa da
arasamTavrobo organizaciebis warmomadgen-
lebi, mamuka kacitaZis TavmjdomareobiT er-
Tiandebian ,,kardakaris“ pirveladi monace-
mebi gamoaqveyna, romelic biujets oTxi mi-
lion oras ormocdaTeqvsmeti aTasi laris
daujda. komisiis mier gamoqveynebuli mo-
nacemebi ase gamoiyureba: saarCevno siebis
dazustebis saxelmwifo komisiam ,,kardaka-
ris” principiT 3 483 142 amomrCeveli Sea-
mowma. rogorc komisiis Tavmjdomare mamuka
kacitaZe acxadebs, ,,kardakaris” principiT
Semowmebisas gardacvlili aRmoCnda 25 949
amomrCeveli, sazRvargareT imyofeba 291 871
amomrCeveli, registraciis misamarTidan
moxsnilia 132 156, Sida migraciaSia 649
839, xolo kontaqti ver damyarda 183 621
amomrCevelTan. komisiis Tavmjdomaris mamu-
ka kacitaZis gancxadebiT, aRniSnulis sie-
bi saboloo araa, igi koreqtirebas eqvemde-
bareba da bolo monacemebi 15 seqtembers
gamoqveyndeba.
saxelmwifo komisiis paralelurad, al-
ternatiul kardakars ,,amomrCevelTa liga“
da ,,qarTuli ocneba“
axorcielebs. saxelmwifo
komisiis Sedegebis parale-
lurad ,,amomrCevelTa li-
gam“ Tbilisisa da zugdidis
masStabiT Catarebuli
kvlevis Sedegebi gamoaqvey-
na. Sedegebi ase gamoiyu-
reba: Tbilisis saerTo sia-
Si 903.171 adamiani iyo, aqe-
dan “amomrCevelTa ligam”
aRwera 732.554. gardacvlili aRmoCnda
5.048, ucxoeTSi wasuli - 41.226, daudge-
nelia - 97.735, misamarTi ar iZebneba -
21.013 da siaSi ar aris 9.016. misi ganmar-
tebiT, saerTo cdomileba, daaxloebiT, 21
procentia. aseve gamoqveynda zugdidis sie-
bic. siaSi saerTo raodenobaa 106.134, aqe-
dan aRwerilia 97.563, gardacvlilia - 824,
ucxoeTSi imyofeba - 2.059, daudgenelia -
12.655, misamarTi ar iZebneba - 2.757 da si-
aSi ar aris - 1201.
kaxa kaxiSvili arCevnebisa da poli-
tikuri teqnologiebis kvlevis centris
xelmZRvaneli: siebis dazustebis saxelmwi-
fo komisiis muSaobis Sedegad dadginda,
rom saqarTveloSi Sida migraciis maCvenebe-
li sakmaod maRalia, daaxloebiT, 7 000
adamianamde. didia im amomrCevlebis raode-
nobac, romlebic sxvadasxva adgilebze ari-
an miwerili da mesame erT-erTi did prob-
lebas sazRvargareT gasuli adamianebi war-
moadgenen, radgan maTi zusti raodenobis
dadgena ver moxerxda. Sss informaciiT, maT
saqarTvelos farglebs gareT gasuli saqar-
Tvelos moqalaqis maCveneblebi mxolod
2007 wlidan aqvT, manamde aseTi informaci-
as, ubralod, ar flobdnen.
_ sagareo saqmeTa ministris gadawy-
vetilebiT, sazRvargareT mcxovrebma
qarTvelebma arCevnebSi monawileobisTvis
unda warmoadginon Sesabamisi dokumenta-
cia sacxovrebeli adgilis Sesaxeb. mo-
gexsenebaT, rom Zalian bevri qarTveli
ucxoeTSi aralegalurad imyofeba, cxa-
dia, aseT dokumentacias ver waradgenen
da arCevnebSi monawileobasac ver miiRe-
ben, rogor fiqrobT, ras ukavSirdeba sa-
gareo uwyebis gadawyevtileba?
_ sazRvargareT myofi amomrCeveli
arCevnebSi monawileobis TvalsazrisiT,
xSir SemTxvevaSi, pasiurobas iCenda,
radgan garkveuli mizezebis gamo ar sur-
da sakonsulo aRricxvaze dadgoma, ris
gamoc verc arCevnebSi iRebda monawile-
obas. Tumca saqarTveloSi politikuri
procesebis gaaqtiurebis gamo, bevrma
qarTvelma, maT Soris vinc aralegalurad
cxovrobs, sazRvargareT saparlamento ar-
CevnebSi monawileoba gadawyvita. mogexsene-
baT, maTi umravlesoba opoziciuradaa gan-
wyobili. Aamitom am gadawyvetilebiT vaSa-
Zem, faqtobrivad, dabloka opoziciurad
ganwyobili amomrCevlebis arCevnebSi monawi-
leoba. es yvelaferi imis gaTvaliswinebiT,
xdeba, rom qarTveli kanonmdebloba ucxo
qveynis moqalaqes SesaZleblobas aZlevs
airCios saqarTvelos xelisufleba. saku-
Tar Tanamoqalaqeebs ki uars eubneba arCev-
nebSi monawileobaze. samwuxarod, xelisuf-
leba yvela meTods iyenebs, raTa opozici-
urad ganwyobilma amomrCevelma arCevnebSi
monawileoba ar miiRos. Sida migraciis maC-
veneblidan Tu vimsjelebT, faqtobrivad, 7
000-mde amomrCeveli arCevnebSi monawileo-
bas ver miiRebs, radgan Znelia da bevr ada-
mians gauWirdeba registraciis adgilze
misvla da arCevnebSi monawileobis miRe-
ba.Aaqedan gamomdinare, SeiZleba iTqvas, rom
xmebis es raodenobac dakargulia.
_ Tumca mamuka kacitaZis gancxadebiT,
saarCevno siis dazusteba 15 seqtembramde
gagrZeldeba. rogor fiqrobT, ra unda ga-
keTdes arsebuli xarvezebis aRmosafxvre-
lad?
_ problemebi im SemTxvevaSi mogvardeba
Tu amomrCevlebi im adgilis mixedviT dare-
gistrirdebian, sadac realurad uwevT cxov-
reba. am sakiTxTan mimarTebiT meore proble-
mac arsebobs, radgan bevr maTgans axali pi-
radobis mowmobis asaRebad Sesabamisi Tanxa
ar gaaCnia, ris gamoc Tavs ikavebs. imisTvis,
rom saarCevno siasTan dakavSirebiT ukeTesi
Sedegi gvqonoda arasamTavrobo seqtoris
warmomadgenlebma xelisuflebas winaswari
registraciis procesi SevTavazeT, razec
uari miviReT. sanacvlod, mmarTvel gunds,
Tundac Sida migraciis mosagvareblad, ara-
nairi qmediTi nabijebi ar gadaudgams.
_ konkretulad, ras gulisxmobT winas-
war registraciaSi, an ra saxiT unda momx-
dariyo?
_ winaswari registraciis safuZvelze
konkretuli adamianebi mividodnen amomrCev-
lebTan da realuri sacxovrebeli misamar-
Tis mixedviT moxdeboda amomrCevlis saar-
Cevno siaSi daregistrireba. winaswari re-
gistracia mogvcemda SesaZleblobas, saar-
Cevno siebSi dublireba ar yofiliyo, gavar-
kvevdiT umisamarTo adamianebis raodenobis
da sxva. Tumca, cxadia, rom Cveni winada-
deba umravlesobam ar gaiTvaliswina.
qveyanaSi Seqmnil politikur pro-
cesebTan dakavSirebiT ,,saerTo ga-
zeTs” politologi, ramaz sayva-reliZe esaubra.
_ batono ramaz, arCevnebamde ori
Tvea darCenili da SeiZleba iTqvas wi-
nasaarCevno kampania piks uaxlovdeba.
matulobs sityvieri, Tu fizikuri da-
pirispireba ivaniSvilsa da saakaSvi-
lis mxardamWerebs Soris, rogor
fiqrobT sadamde SeiZleba mivides es
situacia?
_ mas Semdeg, rac politikaSi bi-
Zina ivaniSvili gamoCnda procesebis
am mimarTulebiT ganviTareba namdvi-
lad mosalodneli iyo. biZina ivaniS-
vilisa da misi koaliciis arCevnebSi
gamarjvebis SesaZlebloba, rac uf-
ro izrdeba da es xdeba sakmaod
TvalsaCinod koaliciis aqciebis sa-
SualebiT, paralelurad mcirdeba
xelisuflebis SesaZlebloba Seinar-
Cunos is mdgomareoba, rac dRes
aqvs. im SemTxvevaSi, Tu xelisufle-
bam arsebuli mdgomareobis SenarCu-
neba ver moaxerxa niSnavs imas, rom
elitaruli korufciiT mopovebul
qonebasa da arasamarTliani gziT gamo-
tanil ganaCenebs seriozuli safrTxe
daemuqreba.
_ batono ramaz, ras fiqrobT mi-
xeil saakaSvilisa da biZina ivaniSvi-
lis taqtikaze arCevnebSi gasamarjveb-
lad?
_ mixeil saakaSvili swori taqti-
kiT, rom ar midioda, TviTonac kargad
dainaxa. ris gamoc merabiSvili premi-
erad daniSna da konkretuli davaleba
misca: daimsaxuros xalxis keTilgan-
wyoba. saakaSvili xvdeba, rom mas sa-
zogadoebis keTilganwyoba aklia da
icis, daSinebiTa da zewoliT, mxolod
SiSis mopovebaa SesaZlebeli da ara
keTilganwyobas.
_ ivaniSvilis winasaarCevno taq-
tikis Sesaxeb ras fiqrobT?
_ biZina ivaniSvilis winasaarCeno
piari martivi da gamWvirvalea da dam-
yarebulia aqciebze. daTqvams aqciis
dros, cdis sakuTar Zalas, ramdeni
mxardamWeri hyavs. aqciebze ki xalxis
sakmaod didi raodenoba modis, rac
imis dasturia, rom ivaniSvils sakma-
od bevri mxardamWeri hyavs.
_ ivaniSvilis azriT, xelisufle-
ba arCevnebis totalurad gayalbebas
ver SeZlebs. rogoria Tqveni pozicia,
eTanxmebiT ,,qarTuli ocnebis” lide-
ris pozicias?
_ gaaCnia, ivaniSvili arCevnebis
totalurad gayalbebaSi ras gulisx-
mobs. sxvadasxva qveynebSi totaluri
gayalbebis maCvenebeli 10%. magali-
Tad, saakaSvilma saprezidento arCev-
nebSi xmebis 20% gayalbebac moaxerxa.
ivaniSvils politikaSi Semosvli-
sas sxva molodini hqonda, ris gamoc
ar moagvara moqalaqeobis da arc mos-
kovSi misi biznesis sakiTxi. albaT, bi-
Zina ivaniSvils mixeil saakaSvilis
gundTan adrindeli urTierToba iseT
STabeWdilebas utovebda, rom dapiris-
pirebis miuxedavad, misi misamarTiT
pativiscemas gamoiCendnen. ganvlil pr-
ocesebs Tvals Tu gadavavlebT, iva-
niSvilis molodini ar gamarTlda.
_ biZina ivaniSvilma saqarTvelos
regionebis umetes nawilsa da Tbilis-
Si maJoritari kandidatebi daasaxela.
misi TqmiT, maJoritarebis umravleso-
ba misaRebia, Tumca ,,qarTuli ocnebis”
lideri maJoriatarebis siaSi koreq-
tirebas ar gamoricxavs. rogor fiq-
robT, ra gaxda cvlilebis mizezi da
ramdenad dadebiTad imoqmedebs ,,qar-
Tul ocnebaze” maJoritarebis gadaad-
gileba?
_ garkveuli TvalsazrisiT, swori
iyo is, rom ivaniSvilma maJoritarebi
pirvelma dasaxela, magram sirTulee-
bic gaiCina im kuTxiT, rom sxva opo-
ziciuri partiebis kandidatebis dasa-
xelebis Semdeg erT raionSi ramdenime
Zlierma opoziciurma kandidatma moi-
yara Tavi, ris gamoc saWiroa erTia-
ni opoziciuri kandidatis dasaxeleba.
faqtobrivad, opozicia aseTi ara-
koordinirebis gamo Zlier figurebs
dakargavs. Tumca, SesaZlebelia, kvlav
Sesworebebi moxdes da opoziciam Se-
Tanxmeba erTian maJoritar kandidateb-
Tan dakavSirebiT moaxerxos.
_ arCevnebi ukve pirvel oqtombers
orSabaT dRes dainiSna. rogoria Tqve-
ni damokidebuleba saparlamento ar-
Cevnebis TariRisadmi?
_ mgonia, daniSnes imis gamo, rom
pirveli oqtomberi biZinaobaa. mogexse-
nebaT, saakaSvili TariRebs simbolur
mniSvnelobas aniWebs. orSabaTi dRe xe-
lisuflebisTvis im kuTxiTacaa misaRe-
bi, rom ucxoeTSi mcxov-
rebi qarTvelebi arCevneb-
Si monawileobas naklebad
miiReben, radgan orSabaTi
samuSao dRea. amasTan,
iuristebis mxridan sain-
tereso poziciac gaCnda,
gamoricxuli araa saakaS-
vili parlamentis daTxov-
nisTvis emzadebodes da
amas garkveuli vadebi
sWirdeba da Cqarobs Tavis
prezidentobis periodSi
moaswros sakanonmdeblo
organos daTxovna.
_ saubroben, rom ru-
seTi saqarTveloSi Semo-
sasvlelad emzadeba da amisTvis sa-
fuZvels ,,qarTuli ocneba” umzadebs.
ras fiqrobT amis Sesaxeb?
_ zogadad, konfliqti sust mxa-
res awyobs da susti mxare am SemTx-
vevaSi ,,nacionaluri moZraobaa”. mmar-
Tvel gunds ruseTTan konfliqti Se-
saZloa, dasWirdes imisTvis, rom ar-
Cevnebi saerTod CaSalos.
gverdi moamzada
miranda nabaxtevelma
xelisufleba yvela meTods iyenebs, raTa opoziciurad ganwyobilma amomrCevelma
arCevnebSi monawileoba ar miiRos
`nacionalur moZraobas~ ruseTTankonfliqti, SesaZloa, imisTvis
dasWirdes, rom arCevnebi CaSalos
14 saerTo gazeTi #34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.
`vardebis revoluciidan~
dRemde saerTaSoriso demokratiu-
li institutebi Tvals xuWavdnen
imaze, Tu rogor sastikad uswor-
deboda nacmoZraoba da misi lide-
ri Tavis politikur oponentebs
da uswordeboda, faqtobrivad, er-
Ti da igive primitiuli scenariT,
erTi da igive xerxebiT da meTo-
debiT, rac imis dasturia, rom xe-
lisufleba TviTonve Txzavda am
`danaSaulobaTa~ siuJetebs, Tvi-
Tonve dgamda scenebs, TviTon wer-
da da TviTon axmovanebda misTvis
sasurvel `mamxilebel~
testebs.
Cven yvelas kargad
gvaxsovs saidumlo ki-
no da telestudiebSi
Seqmnili `dokumentu-
ri~ videofilmebi, `do-
kumenturi~ audioCana-
werebi da sxva `mamxi-
lebeli~ masalebi, rom-
lebic siuJetiT, Sina-
arsiT, Sesrulebis teq-
nikiT tyupis calebiviT
hgavda erTmaneTs, ubra-
lod, am `mxatvrul-
dokumentur~ produq-
ciaSi situaciis da sa-
Wiroebis mixedviT personaJebi ic-
vlebodnen SigadaSig da Salvas
igori cvlida, igors badri, bad-
ris `greCixa~, grexiCas _ nino da
a.S. da a.S.
Cven is qveyana varT, sadac da-
idga istoriuli `filmebi~: `enve-
ri~, `koWoia da misi Zmebi~, fil-
mi pirobiTi saxelwodebiT `bad-
ris ra?~ modelirebuli qronikis
specialuri gamoSveba 2008 wlis
agvistos omis siuJeturi qargis
gamoyenebiT, `boeviki~ _ `muxrova-
nis ajanyeba~, moklemetraJiani
filmebi sxvadasxva wvrilfexa da
msxvilfexa `Spionebze~ da `agen-
tebze~.
am cxra wlis ganmavlobaSi sa-
qarTvelos `fxizelma~ da `goneba-
gamWriaxma~ xelisuflebam aRkveTa
ramdenime `SeTqmuleba~, ramdenime
`saxelmwifo gadatrialebis~
mcdeloba, cixeebSi Cayara jaSu-
Sobasa da saxelmwifos winaaRmdeg
mimarTuli agenturul saqmianoba-
Si braldebuli aseulobiT adami-
ani.
rogorc vTqviT, saqarTvelos
xelisufleba Tavs ar iwuxebs axa-
li scenarebis da axali siuJete-
bis gamogonebiT. is mravaljer ga-
moyenebul da mravaljer nacad er-
Ti da igive `balvankas~ iyenebs mi-
zanSi amoRebuli axali msxverp-
lis gasanadgureblad da arc ara-
visi rcxvenia da arc aravisi eri-
deba.
* * *
Tu gavixsenebT am xelisufle-
bis mier badri patarkaciSvilis
winaaRmdeg ganxorcielebuli sa-
damsjelo RonisZiebebis drama-
turgias, is erTi-erTSi jdeba im
gegmaSi, romliTac biZina ivaniSvi-
lis CaZirvas da politikuri pro-
cesebidan mis CamoSorebas apire-
ben.
patarkaciSvilTan dakavSirebi-
Tac ase iyo _ jer patarkaciSvi-
lis kuTvnili `standartbanki~ ga-
anadgures, gayines patarkaciSvi-
lis yvela sabanko angariSi, daar-
bies da miiTvises telekompania `i-
medi~, gadaketes yvela arxi, sai-
danac SeiZleboda Tanxebi Semosu-
liyo patarkaciSvilis sateliti
partiebis da saerTod, qveyanaSi
mimdinare politikuri procesebis
dasafinanseblad, patarkaciSvilis
kapitali rusul kapitalad, xo-
lo TviTon patarkaciSvili ruse-
Tis agentad da misi dakveTis Sem-
sruleblad gamoacxades, rac Sem-
dgom sababad gamoiyena zogierTma
`patriotma~ politikosma _ Cven
rusul fuls xels rogor movki-
debT da ruseTis kacTan rogor
viTanamSromlebTo, Tumca, rogorc
amboben, patarkaciSvilis fulisT-
vis xelic kargad hqondaT mokide-
buli da gemoc mSvenivrad hqondaT
gasinjuli.
samwuxarod, qarTu-li politikis jungleb-Si dRemde daTareSobspolitikosebad wodebu-li bandebis jgufi, rom-lebic xan erT SeZlebuladamians Zarcvaven, xanmeores, xan _ mesames, me-re ki ganze dgebian da pa-tiosani, umwikvlo darac mTavaria, patriotimoqalaqeebis niRbebsirgeben.
swored aseTma bandebma imsxver-
ples patarkaciSvili _ milionebi
waRlites, kritikul momentSi ki
uRalates da marto datoves.
sakmarisia, qarTuli politi-
kis junglebSi vinme SeZlebul
adamians Semoucdes fexi da es ban-
debi myisve mis garSemo iwyeben
wrials da warwals, rom axal
msxverpls rac SeiZleba Rrmad Ca-
uZvrnen jibeSi, mere rac SeiZleba
Rrmad CauZvrnen mkerdSi da saWi-
ro momentSi guli amoaWamon.
marto fuliWamia ki ara, gu-
liWamia afTrebi arian eseni _
afTris siveragiT, afTris daun-
doblobiT da sixarbiT daRdas-
mulni.
zogierTi maTgani dRes ivaniS-
vilis karTan dasunsulebs, zogi
xelisuflebas Sehymuis da Sesci-
cinebs, nadavls ki oqtomberSi,
arCevnebis periodSi daiTvlian da
gaiyofen, albaT.
* * *
aris aseTi poli-
tikosi _ daviT gamy-
reliZe _ eqimi, mewar-
me, politikosi.
swored ase gvac-
nobda gamyreliZis mra-
valprofilian una-
rebs. klipi, romelic
gamyreliZes saarCev-
nod misma amerikelma
`piarSCikebma~ daumza-
des.
am klipis da saar-
Cevno kampaniis dros
gaweuli sxva piarmom-
saxurebisTvis, `maRalkvalifici-
urma~ amerikelma specialistebma
maRali honorari, dauzustebeli
informaciiT, 700 000-mde dola-
ri waiRes da wavidnen, eqimi, me-
warme, politikosi gamyreliZe ki
`maRalkvalificiurebis~ daxmare-
bis miuxedavad arCevnebSi Caflav-
da.
klipSi gvaCvenebdnen eqimis xa-
laTSi gamowyobil gamyreliZes
avadmyofebTan, Tumca ar uCvenebi-
aT misi warCinebuli mewarmeobis
damadasturebeli faqtebi, faqte-
bi, romlebic gamyreliZis kuTvni-
li sadazRvevo kompania `aldagis~
wyalobiT mTelma qveyanam icis.
SevardnaZesTan damis samTavrobo struq-turebTan, gansakuTre-biT Sss-sTan da mis mi-nistrTan SeZmakacebul-Sexmatkbilebulma gamy-reliZem `aldagis~ saSu-alebiT, rogorc ambo-ben, didi fuli iSova.
gamyreliZe Sevardna-Zis `mefobis~ dros, ro-gorc ityvian, duRda dagadmoduRda.
`moqkavSirTan~ Zmobis fic-ver-
cxliT Sekruli misi politikuri
organizaciac hyvaoda da ifurCqne-
boda, Tumca `vardebis revoluci-
am~ gamyreliZis triumfaluri
msvleloba daamuxruWa, magram gam-
yreliZe ar dabneula _`aldagi~
gayida da mTeli TaviT politika-
Si gadaeSva da yofilma warmate-
bulma mewarmem politikaSi gan-
sacvifrebeli komerci-
ul-mewarmuli niWiereba
da elastiuroba gamoav-
lina.
konkretulad raSi
gamoixateboda es, amaze
saubari sxva droisTvis
gadavdoT, aq ki imis aR-
niSvniT davkmayofildeT,
rom `moqkavSirTan~, anu
mmarTvel partiasTan me-
gobruli da partnioru-
li urTierTobis sitk-
bonagemma gamyreliZem
`nacmoZraobis~ mowyale
gulisken misasvleli
gzebic male gamoZebna.
moarul xmebs Tu da-
vujerebT, pirveli `sdelka~ `nac-
moZraobasa~ da gamyreliZes Soris
maSin Sedga, roca gamyreliZem
2008 wlis saparlamento arCevne-
bis dros opoziciuri partiebis
gamarjvebul kandidatebsa da xe-
lisuflebas Soris momrigeblisa
da Suamavlis roli Seasrula.
`dazaralebulTaTvis~ gankuTv-
nili sakompensacio Tanxa, `zemo-
dan~ gamogzavnili, boroti xmebis
mtkicebiT, gamyreliZis ofisSi mi-
itanes da iqidan dauriges `meambo-
xeebs~.
gamyreliZem saarCevno garemos
gaumjobesebisTvis gamarTul xang-
rZliv diskusiaSic danebebis niS-
nad pirvelma aRmarTa TeTri ala-
mi, ris sanacvlodac partiam seri-
ozuli honorari, xolo `memarj-
veneebis~ erT-erTma liderma kaci-
taZem amomrCevelTa siis dazuste-
bis uzrunvelyofis komisiis Tavm-
jdomaris posti miiRo.
rogorc `amomrCevelTa liga~
amtkicebs, sia 17-20 procentiT
aris gayalbebuli, Tumca kacita-
Zis komisias es sagangaSo ambavi
arc SeumCnevia.
daviT gamyreliZemwlis dasawyisSi `xatzedaifica~, rom `memarjve-neebs~ parlamentSi Seiy-vans Tu arada, gadadge-ba.
rogor apirebs urei-tingo, saxelgatexilida ndobadakarguli par-tiis lideri amis gake-Tebas? rogorc Cans, nac-moZraobasTan partnio-robiT da arCevnebis ga-yalbebaSi wilSi Cajdo-miT.
gamarjvebis sxva San-si `memarjveneebs~ araqvT!
aaxxllaa kkii ggTTaavvaazzoobbTT iinntteerrvviiuuss
ddaavviiTT ggaammyyrreelliiZZeessTTaann,, rroommeelliicc
`̀pprraaiimmttaaiimmSSii~~ ddaaiibbeeWWddaa::
daviT gamyreliZe,, `̀aaxxaallii
mmeemmaarrjjvveenneeeebbiiss~~ lliiddeerrii::
_ biZina ivaniSvili daJinebiT
acxadebs, rom man unda aiRos sa-
konstitucio umravlesoba, rac
mxolod erTaderTi gziT _ revo-
luciiT aris SesaZlebeli. dRes
Cveulebrivi saarCevno procesi
warmoudgenelia, rom erTma poli-
tikurma Zalam, Tundac miliar-
derma, 3/4 miiRos momaval parla-
mentSi da konstituciuri umrav-
lesoba gaakontrolos. meore
mxriv, mis mier dafinansebuli `a-
momrCevelTa liga~ pirdapir qmnis
fons da ganwyobas, rom amomrCe-
velTa siebSi aris uamravi Secdo-
ma. isini Segnebulad axdenen mamu-
ka kacitaZis komisiis diskredita-
cias. mizani ki erTia _ momzaddes
foni, rom arCevnebis Semdeg sie-
bis gayalbebis mizeziT xalxi qu-
CaSi gamoiyvanon da daiwyos revo-
luciis procesi. igive mizans em-
saxureba regionebSi Catarebuli
aqciebic. es aris garkveuli re-
peticia, rom Semdeg ara mxolod
TbilisSi, aramed regionebSic er-
Tdroulad moxdes xalxis gamos-
vla da Zalauflebis xelSi aReba.
es aris Cemi varaudi da Tu is ar
gamarTldeba, mzad var, amis gamo
bodiSi movixado, Tumca mgonia,
rom is yvelaferi, rasac ivaniSvi-
li akeTebs, am mizans emsaxureba,
ara mgonia, rom ivaniSvils saku-
Tari milionebis xarjva undodes
imisTvis, rom parlamentSi 38-40
an Tundac 50 adamiani Seiyvanos.
misTvis erTaderT SemTxvevaSi iq-
neba es xarji gamarTlebuli: _
Tu is absolutur Zalauflebas
aiRebs xelSi. am survils ivaniS-
vili arc malavs. mas surs, rom,
ubralod, saakaSviliviT erTpi-
rovnuli mmarTveli iyos. sxva
SemTxvevaSi, warmoudgenelia amxe-
la Tanxebis daxarjva im arCevneb-
Si, romelSic Tavad ar monawile-
obs.
__ ggaammooddiiss,, rroomm iivvaanniiSSvviillii eemm-
zzaaddeebbaa aarraa aarrCCeevvnneebbiissTTvviiss,, aarraammeedd
SSeemmddggoommii ppeerriiooddiissTTvviiss,, rraaTTaa ggaa-
yyaallbbeebbaa mmooiimmiizzeezzooss ddaa rreevvoolluucciiaa
mmooaawwyyooss??
_ ra Tqmaunda gamixardeba. Tu
arCevnebis Semdeg yvelani, xeli-
suflebac, ivaniSvilic da yvela
Zala aRiarebs im Sedegebs, rasac
xalxi Tavisi arCevnebiT gadawy-
vets, magram, samwuxarod, ivaniSvi-
lis koaliciis dRevandeli gan-
cxadebebi da moqmedebebi metyve-
lebs imaze, rom swored arCevnebis
Sedeg gegmavs revoluciuri scena-
ris ganviTarebas. is Seecdeba am
gziT aiRos absoluturi Zalauf-
leba.
xelisufleba male gamorekavs agvistos cxeli Rameebidan `jaSuS koWoiebs~, romlebicTiTs biZina ivaniSvilisken gaiSveren...
ra sqemebs amuSavebs xelisufleba
biZina ivaniSvilis winaaRmdeg?
15saerTo gazeTi#34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.
...ivaniSvilma arCevnebSi 45
procentic rom aiRos, am sistemis
pirobebSi es imas sulac ar niS-
navs, rom ufro meti deputati
eyoleba, vidre ormocdaaTi. mas ki
unda, rom 150-ian parlamentSi
100 da 120 deputati hyavdes. es
warmoudgenelia. amitom ityvian,
rom arCevnebi gayalbda da iqneba
mowodeba quCaSi gamosvlaze. ne-
bismieri sxva Sedegi, garda erTi-
sa _ aiRos Zalaufleba. misTvis
iqneba miuRebeli da xalxs pro-
testisa da daumorCileblobisken
mouwodebs. ...kvlevebis Sedegad 27
procenti ambobs, rom mzad aris
gavides quCaSi. es sakmaod maRali
ricxvia. ra Tqma unda, es ar niS-
navs, rom marTlac 27 procenti
gamova. Tumca es mainc sakmarisia
imisTvis, rom areuloba Seiqmnas
da garedan daxmarebis imedi gaCn-
des.
__ rruusseeTTss gguulliissxxmmoobbTT??
_ gamovricxav, rom rusebi
pirdapir Semovidnen, an SemoiWran,
magram, bunebrivia, ruseTi Seecde-
ba, rom amaze xmauri atexos da sa-
erTaSoriso azris mobilizeba mo-
axdinos. sakmaod saxifaToa es yve-
laferi...~
naTelia, am interviuSi daviT
gamyreliZe xelisuflebis im dema-
gogiur scenars axmovanebs, romli-
Tac xelisufleba winaswar qmnis
safuZvels im braldebebisTvis,
romlebsac is upirebs wauyenos
ivaniSvils arCevnebis Semdeg sap-
rotesto gamosvlebis SemTxvevaSi.
Turme nu ityviT da gamyreli-
Zis (igulisxmeT xelisuflebisac)
mtkicebiT, ivaniSvilisTvis ara
aqvs mniSvneloba sinamdvileSi ga-
yalbdeba Tu ar gayalbdeba arCev-
nebi. es ivaniSvils ar ainteresebs.
mas ainteresebs revoluciis
mowyoba, arCevnebi ki misTvis mxo-
lod da mxolod sababia, mizezia
revoluciis dasawyebad.
ra unda qnas am SemTxvevaSi xe-
lisuflebam? gulxeldakrefili
xom ar daelodeba `revolucione-
ri~ ivaniSvilis mier sabrZolo
moqmedebebis dawyebas da qveyanaSi
areulobis, samoqalaqo dapirispi-
rebis eskalacias?
xelisufleba, rogorc TviTon
ambobs TavisTavze, sakuTar xalx-
ze usazRvrod Seyvarebuli xeli-
sufleba, stabilurobis, wesrigis,
demokratiuli ganviTarebis garan-
ti, valdebulic ki aris yvelafe-
ri gaakeTos `SfoTisTavi~ ivaniS-
vilis `avanturistuli zraxvebis~
aRsakveTad.
da, ai, aq amoqmeddebais scenari, romelic xe-lisuflebas bevrjergamouyenebia ivaniSvil-isnairi `buntovSCike-bis~ gasaneitraleblad_ sadRac, romeliRacsardafSi, sadRac, rome-liRac tyeSi, sadRac,romeliRac baRCaSi, qar-Tveli Serlok holmsebiuceb `aRmoaCenen~ did-Zal iaraRs, romelsacTurme ivaniSvili imara-gebda arCevnebis Semdegomis dasawyebad.
es iaraRi rom namdvilad iva-
niSvilisaa, amis damdasturebeli
pirebic gamoCndebian, romlebic
`gulaxdil~ Cvenebebs miscemen sa-
marTaldamcavebs.
paralelurad nacionaluri
telearxebis ekranebze gamoCndeba
axali `dokumenturi videofilmi~,
sadac sadRac `romeliRac~ kons-
piraciul binaSi, sadRac romeli-
Rac restoranSi Tu kafeSi sai-
dumlod Sekrebili adamianebi sai-
dumlod ilaparakeben arCevnebis
Semdeg saerTo-saxalxo ajanyebis
saidumlo gegmis detalebze, daw-
vrilebiT aRweren, sad da rogor
unda daiwyos areuloba, vis ra
davaleba eqneba, am areulobis
dros, vin ra unda gaakeTos da a.S.
saxelmwifos winaaRmdeg mimar-
Tuli `SeTqmulebis~ monawileebi
saubris dros aucileblad bevr-
jer axseneben biZina ivaniSvilis
saxels, rogorc am revoluciis
mTavar organizators da xelmZR-
vanels.
aseve aucileblad iqneba naxse-
nebi ruseTi, rogorc am revolu-
ciis SemkveTi da damfinansebeli,
romelic, saWiroebis SemTxvevaSi,
qveyanaSi SemoiWreba da ajanyebu-
lebs daexmareba.
`dokumenturi~ filmis, iara-
Ris maragis `aRmoCenis~ da sxva
mamxilebeli masalebis gverdig-
verd gaCndeba satelefono saubre-
bis faruli Canawerebi, romlebic
kidev ufro ganamtkiceben ivaniSvi-
lis `veraguli~ gegmis realurad
arsebobis namdvilobas. yovelive
amis Semdeg xelisuflebas sxva
gza ar rCeba, garda erTisa _ da-
uyovnebliv aRZras sisxlis samar-
Tlis saqme saxelmwifo SeTqmule-
bis organizatoris ivaniSvilis da
SeTqmulebis sxva monawileebis
winaaRmdeg da amiT qveyana omsa da
ubedurebas gadaarCinos.
Tu vinmes daujereblad eCvene-
ba movlenebis amgvari ganviTareba,
gaixsenos uamravi epizodi axlo
warsulidan _ gaixsenos, rogor
`ipoves~ igor giorgaZis momxree-
bisTvis gankuTvnili iaraRi, ro-
gor ipoves iaraRi irakli oqru-
aSvilis `nacnob-megobrebis~ baRCa-
Si, gaixsenos, rogor `daiWires~
faqtze malxaz gvelukaSvili da
misi megobari, romlebic samxedro
gadatrialebis mosawyobad iaraRs
`iZendnen~, gaixsenos muxrovanis
`amboxebis~ `iniciatorTa~ `TaTbi-
ris~ videoCanaweri, sadac TiTqmis
mTeli opoziciuri speqtri jaSu-
Sur-agenturul saqmianobaSi iqna
braldebuli, gaixsenos 26 maisis
wina dReebis video da audio Cana-
werebi, gaixsenos monasterSi da-
patimrebuli 25 adamiani, romle-
bic TiTqosda SeiaraRebuli ga-
mosvlebisTvis emzadebodnen, gaix-
senos kidev uamravi msgavsi faqti
da darwmundebiT, rom advili Se-
saZlebelia biZina ivaniSvilis wi-
naaRmdeg absoluturad igive sce-
nariT imoqmedon.
rogorc vTqviT, xelisufleba
Tavs ar iwuxebs axali siuJetebis
gamogonebiT, is moqmedebs erTxel
SerCeuli sqemiT da, faqtobrivad,
erTi da igive Sinaarsis sisxlis
samarTlis saqmeebSi mxolod gvar-
saxelebs cvlis.
daviT gamyreliZismier `gaSifruli~ da xe-lisuflebisTvis miwo-debuli `operatiuli~informacia, Tu rogoremzadeba biZina ivaniSvi-li revoluciisTvis, sx-va araferia, Tu ara ama-ve xelisuflebis mierwlebis winaT Sedgenilida mere mravaljer gamo-yenebuli trafaretisasli.
gapolitikosebul eqimsa da me-
warmes, rogorc Cans, axali, ori-
ginaluri sqemebis SesaTxzvelad
fantazia ar hyofnis, ise, rogorc
ar hyofnis sindisi, saqarTvelos-
Tvis uamravi keTili saqmis gamke-
Tebel adamians cili ar daswamos
da sacixod ar gaimetos.
* * *
arsebobs varaudi, rom biZina
ivaniSvilze sisxlis samarTlis
saqmis aRZvris sababiT xelisufle-
ba amuSavebs kidev erT samarqafo
variants, riTac Seecdeba teroris-
tisa da kriminalis iarliyi miake-
ros `qarTuli ocnebis~ liders.
saubaria teraqtze,romelsac viTom ivaniS-vili da misi gundi geg-mavs mixeil saakaSviliswinaaRmdeg.
ra Tqma unda, mTavari persona-
Ji aqac ruseTi unda iyos, rome-
lic am `teroristuli aqtis~ su-
lisCamdgmelad da SemkveTad da-
saxldeba, riTac kidev ufro gaiz-
rdeba saakaSvilis, rogorc boro-
tebis imperiasTan mebrZoli gmi-
ris, wona da avtoriteti.
cxadia, saakaSvilzeTavdasxmas da mis likvi-dacias aravin apirebs,Tumca es sulac ar SeuS-lis xels am xelisufle-bas dabejiTebiT amtki-cos, rom teraqti namd-vilad mzaddeboda darom ara samarTlebrivistruqturebis saocradgamWriaxi muSaoba, vinicis, ra ubedurebas ga-daveyrebodiT.
bunebaSi ararsebuli teraqtis
scenaric iqve daiwreba, sadac
sxva, msgavsi tipis scenarebi iwe-
reboda. mere es scenari `warmoe-
baSi CaeSveba~, `msaxiobebs~ role-
bi gaunawildebaT, filmi gadaiRe-
ba, teqsti daedeba, gaxmovandeba
da saerTaSoriso mniSvnelobis
skandaluri istoriac mzad aris _
rogor upirebda afeTqebas demok-
ratiis Suquras _ saakaSvils ru-
seTis kaci ivaniSvili.
eh, Tqve marTla dedaafeTqebu-
lebo, riT ver daiRaleT, riT ver
daSoSmindiT, riT ver dacxriT?
saqarTvelo didi xania did ki-
nopavilionad iqca, gadasaReb moe-
danze yoveldRe iReben axal-axal
filmebs arnaxuli ekonomikuri
miRwevebis Sesaxeb, arnaxulad ke-
TilSobili da keTili xelisuf-
lebis Sesaxeb, arnaxuli demokra-
tiis Sesaxeb da kidev Spionebis,
agentebis, xalxis mtrebis, rezi-
dentebis, teroristebis, mavneble-
bis Sesaxeb, romlebic cdiloben
Ziri gamouTxaron arnaxulad ayva-
vebul, arnaxulad demokratiul,
arnaxulad humanur qarTul sa-
xelmwifos da mis xelisuflebas.
saqarTvelo realo-baSi ar cxovrobs, saqar-Tvelo cxovrobs saSine-lebaTa filmSi, romlisreJisoric, scenaris-tic da mTavari rolisSemsrulebelic erTi daigive kaci _ mixeil saa-kaSvilia,
romelic TavgamodebiT cdi-
lobs moatyuos ara marto saqar-
Tvelo, aramed mTeli msoflio,
Tavisi saerTaSoriso demokratiu-
li TanamegobrobiT, Tavisi demok-
ratiuli institutebiT da sxva
aTasi jandabiT da dozaniT.
cdilobs da axerxebs kidevac...
aferum, mis moxerxebas da ki-
dev im demokratiul Tanamegobro-
bas, romelic cxra welia am mra-
valserian saSinelebaTa films
mSvidad da aumRvrevlad uyurebs.
Tfu...
* * *
daimaxsovreT, 2012 wlis ag-
visto yvelaze sabediswero agvis-
to iqneba bolo oci wlis agvis-
toebidan.
darwmunebuli var,
xelisufleba male ga-
morekavs agvistos cxe-
li Rameebidan jaSuSo-
basa da teroristoba-
Si eWvmitanil koWoi-
ebs, erT xelSi ce-
lofnis Sav parkebs
daaWerinebs, romelSic
iqneba trotili an
sxva feTqebadi nivTie-
reba, meore xelSi xe-
lisuflebis mierve da-
weril teqstebs SeaCe-
Cebs, sadac laparaki
iqneba imaze Tu rogor
apirebdnen koWoiebi
sxvadasxva diversiul-
teroristuli aqtebis
ganxorcielebas, koWo-
ebi daasaxeleben organizaciis
xelmZRvanelebs, Tanamzraxvelebs
da daiwyeba nadiroba kudianebze.
37-iani wlebi dabrunda saqar-
TveloSi, Tumca raRa dabrunda,
roca is arsad wasula...
Cven vcxovrobT ukana ricxviT,
vcxovrobT axal neobolSevikur
qveyanaSi, romelsac msoflios
Tvalis asaxvevad demokratiuli
saqarTvelo hqvia.
P.S. 2 agvistos `edp~-ss li-
derma baCuki qardavam preskonfe-
rencia gamarTa, sadac lamis sity-
va-ssityviT, igive gaimeora, rac da-
viT gamyreliZem `praim-ttaimSi~ ga-
nacxada.
qardavas mtkicebiT,`qarTuli ocneba~ arCev-nebis Semdeg xmebis ga-yalbebis gaproteste-bis sababiT, areulobis
provocirebas apirebs,ris Semdegac situaciisdaregulirebis mizniTsaqarTveloSi ruseTisjarebi SemoiWrebian da`qarTul ocnebas~ dau-Weren mxars.
_ amis Sesaxeb amomrCevlebTan
Sexvedrisas `qarTuli ocnebis~
koordinatorebi Riad saubroben
da arc malaven, rom maT ruseTis
imedi aqvT, _ brZanebs pativcemu-
li qardava.
misi azriT, rusuli jaris
mravalricxovani kontingentis
koncentrireba saqarTvelos sazR-
vrebTan, agreTve rusuli samxed-
ro katarRebis mobilizeba Savi
zRvis akvatoriaSi, farTomasSta-
biani samxedro wvrTnebi Crdilo-
eT kavkasiaSi, yvelaferi es pirda-
pir kavSirSia Turme saqarTvelo-
Si oqtombris saparlamento arCev-
nebTan da uSualod `qarTuli oc-
nebis~ miznebTan da amocanebTan.
unda vivaraudoT, rom qardava
xelisuflebis im scenaris ideo-
logiurad gamyarebas cdilobs,
romlis Sesaxebac am werilSi
vrclad visaubreT.
daviT gamyreliZe, baCuki qar-
dava da sxvebi am TavianTi absur-
duli braldebebiT da ciliswame-
bebiT xels uwyoben xelisufle-
bas, Sekeros sisxlis samarTlis
saqme `qarTuli ocnebis~ winaaRm-
deg, romelic, Turme, danaSauleb-
riv farul garigebaSia ruseTTan
da sababs umzadebs mas saqarTve-
loSi SemosaWrelad da mis da-
sapyrobad.
es umZimesi bralde-baa, es saxelmwifos Ra-latSi dadanaSaulebaada, vfiqrob, `qarTuliocnebis~ mesveurebmadroulad unda mimar-Ton sasamarTlos amusafuZvlo braldebe-bis gasaqarwyleblad.
dabolos, ar SeiZleba gverdi
avuaroT erT garemoebas, kerZod,
im sakiTxs, rom baCuki qardava
wlebis ganmavlobaSi TviTon muSa-
obda ruseTis samarTaldamcav
struqturebSi, ekava sakmaod maRa-
li postebi, rac safuZvlian eWvs
badebs, rom qardava swored ruse-
Tis garkveuli wreebis dakveTas
axmovanebs, romelTa mizania, ra-
dac ar unda daujdeT, daexmaron
saakaSvils Zalauflebis SenarCu-
nebaSi.
arCevnebi 1 oqtom-bers, anu im dros, rocaruseTi saqarTvelos me-zoblad farTomasSta-bian samxedro wvrTnebsatarebs, ivaniSvils ardauniSnavs, is daniSnamixeil saakaSvilma.
aqedan gamomdinare,Tu raime garigeba arse-bobs, is SeiZleba arse-bobdes ruseTsa da mixe-il saakaSvils Soris daaraviTar SemTxvevaSiruseTsa da biZina iva-niSvils Soris.
giorgigamezardaSvili
16 saerTo gazeTi #34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.
gvesaubreba `Tavisufali
saqarTvelos~ Tavmjdomare
kaxa kukava:
_ kaxa, bolo dros `Tavisu-
fal saqarTveloSi~ aqtiviste-
bis da maJoritarebis sxva par-
tiebidan gadmodineba SeiniSneba.
_ partia `Tavisufal saqar-
TveloSi~ sxvadasxva partiebi-
dan mxardamWerebis mateba namd-
vilad SeiniSneba. es exeba, ro-
gorc aqtivistebs, ise axalgaz-
rdul organizaciebs, aseve ma-
Joritar kandidatebs. imereTSi
Cveni maJoritari kandidatebis
prezentacia gvqonda, uaxloes
dReebSi kidev ramdenime region-
Si Catardeba analogiuri. aras-
dros miTqvams vin, romeli par-
tiidan SemouerTda `Tavisufa-
li saqarTvelos~ rigebs. Tumca,
politikaSi Caxeduli sazoga-
doebisTvis es saidumlos ar
warmoadgens. maT Soris, imereT-
Si prezentirebul kandidatebs
Sorisac iyvnen iseTebi, romle-
bic `qarTul ocnebaSi~ ganixi-
lebodnen. es Cveulebrivi momen-
tia. `qarTul ocnebas~ mTavar
konkurentad ar miviCnevT da ar
vTvliT, rom masTan mtruli da-
mokidebuleba unda gvqondes.
_ kaxa, riT axsni sxvadasx-
va partiebis rigebidan Tqvens
rigebSi xalxis gawevrianebis
survils?
_ es miswrafeba gamowveulia
Semdegi viTarebiT _ sanam eifo-
ria iyo, yvela mxolod `qar-
Tul ocnebas~ amCnevda. rac uf-
ro axlovdeba arCevnebi da Suq-
deba politikuri sakiTxebi,
xalxi gansxvavebas amCnevs. yve-
la vinc gansxvavebas amCnevs _
eleqtorati Tu aqtivistebi,
`Tavisufali saqarTvelos~ upi-
ratesoba eWvqveS ar dgas. imi-
tom, rom igive sagareo, saSinao
politikasTan mimarTebaSi Cveni
upiratesoba Zalian didi da
sagrZnobia.
_ kaxa, rogor fiqrob, ra-
tom gierTdebian Tqven _ imi-
tom, rom gulwrfelad saub-
robT im realobaze, razec sxve-
bi mxolod `gulSi mRerian~,
Tu sxva ganmapirobebeli mizeze-
bic arsebobs?
_ ramdenime dRis win xara-
gaulis raionSi Sexvedra gvqon-
da, sadac adamiani, romelic
Cven dagvyveboda, ambobda _ ar
mgonia ivaniSvili amerikelebis
kaci iyoso. es Zalian saintere-
so, simptomaturi frazaa. adami-
anebs sxva molodini aqvT _ isi-
ni ramdenjerme rom moismenen
ivaniSvilis an misi garemocvis
saubars sxvadasxva politikur
sakiTxebze, ra Tqma unda saku-
Tar pozicias Seicvlian. damo-
kidebuleba ivaniSvilis mimarT,
rogorc mecenatis, pirovnebis,
metwilad pozitiuria, magram
misi politikuri prioritete-
bis, garemocvis mimarT damoki-
debuleba, ufro metad negatiu-
ria.
_ ivaniSvilis gundma imis
apelirebiT, rom pro-aameriku-
lebi arian, garkveulwilad xom
ar gamogiTavisufla is niSa,
romelic axla gikavia?
_ Cven gvaqvs grZelvadiani
prioriteti, `Tavisufali sa-
qarTvelo~ aris erTaderTi po-
litikuri partia, am sityvis
namdvili gagebiT, rogoric ar-
sebobs evropaSi. Cven dRemde is
pozicia gvaqvs, rac SarSan,
SarSanwin da imis win gvqonda
ar gviTqvams rom SarSan nato-
Si integracias vuWerdiT mxars
da wels aRar. bevri politiku-
ri lideri amas akeTebs da es
Zalian sasaciloa. ra Tqma unda,
politika lavirebis xelovnebaa
da aq SesaZlebelia aqcenti xan
erT rameze gaakeTo, xan meore-
ze, magram is, rom erTi da ima-
ve sakiTxze diametralurad sa-
winaaRmdego poziciebi daikavo,
es grZelvadian perspeqtivaSi
wamgebiania. Cveni partia Sedare-
biT axalia, cota ufro adre
roa dagvewyo saqmianoba, darw-
munebuli var Cveni eleqtorati
ufro farTo iqneboda imitom,
rom realurad, dRes mosaxleo-
bis 70-80 procenti, albaT, im
faseulobebs iziarebs, romelic
eqskluziurad mxolod da mxo-
lod Cveni partiis programaSia
warmodgenili. ubralod, amis
adamianebamde mitanas didi dro
da resursi sWirdeba.
_ kaxa, ra Sehmata Tqvens
reitings mxardamWerebis Sema-
tebam da ra Sedegi gamoiRo
NDI-ss kvlevebze Tqvenma pro-
testma?
_ Cveni protestis Semdgom
NDI-m Zalian saintereso rei-
tingi gamoaqveyna _ `naciona-
lebs~ `qarTul ocnebas~ da
`qristian-demokratebs~ gan-
sazRvruli procenti miakuTvna
da Tqva, rom danarCeni partie-
bis procenti jamSi 10-is to-
lia. msoflioSi aseTi ram ar
arsebobs, NDI-s da `ai-rais~
gamokiTxvebi ukuRma tardeba. aq
jer iwereba jami da Semdgom
formalurad gamokiTxva tarde-
ba. NDI-m dawera, rom jamSi
`Tavisufali saqarTvelos~ da
`erovnul-demokratiuli parti-
is~ procenti 10-ia. iqneb gviTx-
ran _ 5,5 procenti gvaqvs ori-
ves Tu Cven gvaqvs _ 9,9 pro-
centi da maT 0,1. momaval kvi-
ras vapirebT erT-erT kerZo
kompanias davukveToT gamokvle-
va, Tumca CvenTvis cnobilia,
rom pirveli da meore arCevanis
jamuri raodenoba 14 procen-
tia.
_ kaxa, Tumca Tqven araer-
Txel aRgiRniSnavT, rom am pi-
robebSi arCevnebs azri ar aqvs,
rom jer aSS-ss kolonizatoro-
bidan unda gavTavisufldeT da
es Zlieri mokavSiris
gareSe SeuZlebelia. es
Zlieri mokavSire ki
ruseTia, romelsac mx-
olod afxazeTi da
oseTi ki ara, aramed
saqarTvelo sWirdeba,
rogorc mis mimarT ke-
Tilganwyobili qveyana.
_ mosaxleobis 95
procenti Tvlis, rom
saqarTvelos mTavari
strategiuli partnio-
ri ruseTi da aSS unda
iyos. amavdroulad, Cve-
ni politikuri speqt-
ris 95 procenti Tv-
lis, rom mTavari part-
niori aSS da ara ruse-
Ti unda iyos. anu Zali-
an didi, kardinaluri
winaaRmdegobaa polit.
elitasa da eleqtora-
tis ganwyobebs Soris. bunebri-
via, aqedan gamomdinare, Cveni
partiisTvis es Zalian didi ni-
Saa. ubralod, ivaniSvilis pi-
radi reitingi imdenad maRalia,
rom xSirad es adamianebisTvis
erTgvari barieria, raTa poli-
tikur sakiTxebs Sexedon. adami-
anebma rom icodnen, maTTvis say-
vareli liderebi arian is po-
litikuri partiebi, romlebic
mxars uWeren avRaneTSi Cveni
biWebis xocva-Jletas, Cineleb-
ze tyeebis gadacemas, baTumSi
meCeTis mSeneblobas, rusTave-
lis gamzirze gei-aRlumebis Ca-
tarebas, ieRovelebis propagan-
das, ra Tqma unda am SemTxveva-
Si xalxi am politikur Zalas
mxars ar dauWers, magram samwu-
xarod, es Tematika debatebis
sivrceSi warmodgenili ar aris.
_ bevri moqalaqe ruseTSia
lukma-ppuris saSovarze gasuli.
ruseTTan dapirispirebiT Cven
xom am qarTvelebze vambobT ua-
rs?
_ ra Tqma unda. es partiebi
yvela antierovnulebi arian imi-
tom, rom isini xelisuflebaSi
mosvlas aSS-s mxardaWeriT geg-
maven da ara qarTveli eris
mxardaWeriT, angariSvaldebu-
lebas vaSingtonis winaSe grZno-
ben da amas arc malaven. yvelas
gvaxsovs erTi politikosis gan-
cxadeba, rom ar SeiZleba meCe-
Tis mSeneblobis gaprotesteba,
radgan es Turme aSS-s saelCos
ar moewoneba. amas pirdapir gav-
lenis agenti ewodeba. ruseTSi
myofi qarTveli moqalaqeebi
erT-erTi mTavari Temaa. xalxi
maT fexebze hkidiaT. maTTvis
bevrad ufro mniSvnelovania
aSS-s saelCos meore mdivnis Ri-
mili daimsaxuron, vidre ruseT-
Si mcxovrebi 1 milioni qarTve-
lis mxardaWera.
_ magram xelisuflebam we-
sad daamkvidra, rom visac oku-
pant qveyanasTan urTierTobis
mogvareba surs, igi qveynis
mtris iarliys ikravs.
_ am frontze Cvenma parti-
am ukve gaimarjva. roca Tbilis-
Si ar viyavi irakli alasanias
uTqvams, rom moldaveTis Tema
saqarTvelosTvis unda iqnes ga-
moyenebuli. rogorc ruseTis
bazris winaaRmdegni iyvnen da
bolos yvela partia vaiZuleT
eRiarebinaT, rom es erTaderTi
gamosavalia, aseve, roca aSS-s
mTavari mokavSire alasania
iTxovs moldaveTis precendent-
ze saubars, yvelas vaiZulebT
da CavatarebT plebisits saqar-
TveloSi, sadac 99 procenti
natos winaaRmdeg miscems xmas.
imitom, rom es momavlis erTa-
derTi Temaa. yvela vinc dRes
saqarTvelos natoSi integraci-
aze saubrobs, ar minda uxeSad
gamomivides, magram am adamianebs
sakuTari maJoritarobis manda-
ti ufro anaRvlebT, vidre
afxazeTis dakarguli terito-
ria.
_ am fonze, ramdenad sworia
xalxis aqtivobis SeCereba, maTi
procesebSi CarTvis ignorireba?
_ `qarTuli ocneba~ ibrZvis
meore adgilisTvis da ara xe-
lisuflebis SecvlisaTvis. Cven
maT vTavazobT erTian maJori-
tar kandidatebze SeTanxmeba
Sedges, isini amaze uars ambo-
ben, aq sxva logikuri pasuxi
gamoricxulia. garda amisa, iva-
niSvili arCevnebSi ar monawi-
leobs, rac niSnavs, rom `qar-
Tuli ocnebis~ fiqsirebuli
xmebis mTavari Sedegi alasanias
da `respublikelebis~ fraqcie-
bi iqneba saqarTvelos parlamen-
tSi. amiT damTavrdeba mTeli es
kampania. dRes es fraza viRacas
yurs moWris, magram Cven gvax-
sovs rogori didi ndobiT sar-
geblobda alasania da swored
asec damTavrda _ vice-spikeris
posti iyo mTavari miRweva Tbi-
lisis sakrebuloSi. es imedgac-
rueba qarTvel sazogadoebas
win elodeba, magram Cvenma sazo-
gadoebam nel-nela unda iswav-
los, rom wyalwaRebuli xavs
eWidebodao _ ase Sedegs ver
miviRebT. ar SeiZleba raRac-ra-
Racebis daviwyeba. roca amboben,
TiTqos fsevdoopoziciaa is, vi-
sac 26 maiss Tavebi gauxeTqes,
xolo realuri opozicia ala-
sania da `respublikelebi~, vinc
am yvelafers fanjridan uyura,
es ukve tyuilia. tyuilze da-
fuZnebuli politikuri stra-
tegia Sedegs ver miitans.
Tamar SveliZe
zogierTisTvis ufro mniSvnelovaniaaSS-s saelCos meore mdivnis Rimilisdamsaxureba, vidre ruseTSi mcxovrebi
erTi milioni qarTvelis bedi
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
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17saerTo gazeTi#34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.
qalis bedi iseTivea, rogo-
ricaa qveynis bedi; ar SeiZleba,
isini erTmaneTisagan gansxvavde-
bodnen. bednieri qalebis arse-
boba qveynis bednierebis sawin-
daria da piriqiT.
... lado asaTianis striqone-
bi gamaxsenda: `sxva rom ar
iyos, Cven am lamazi qalebis
Suqi dagvifaravda, Torem mters
isic ki SeaSinebs, erTxel xma-
maRla rom vTqvaT `marabda~.
albaT, an Cven SevicvaleT, an _
mteri. an Cven aRar Segvwevs Za-
la, rom erTxmad SevZaxoT, an
mterma gaimagra guli da `marab-
dis~ gagoneba sasacilodac ki
ar hyofnis. Tanac, meTodebi
daxvewa, brZolis forma Secva-
la. iqneb, orive erTadaa? rac
Seexeba lamaz qalebs, maTi Su-
qis imedad yofna, cota ar iyos,
saxifaTo saqmea: dgeba momenti,
roca isini, didi survilis mi-
uxedavad, veRar aSuqeben da ve-
Rarc gifaraven _ piriqiT, axla
iqiT sWirdebaT gafrTxileba da
mzrunveloba. es _ naxevrad
xumrobiT, Tumca saxumarod nam-
dvilad ara gvaqvs saqme, radgan
saqarTvelo lamis qalebisagan
daicalos. es gansakuTrebiT ig-
rZnoba regionebSi, sadac TiTq-
mis yoveli meoTxe-mexuTe oja-
xi diasaxlisis gareSea darCeni-
li _ midian, miemgzavrebian,
garbian Cveni dedebi, debi Tu
bebiebi; RvTis wyalobad Tvlian,
Tu aqedan gaRweva moaxerxes, mi-
dian legalurad Tu aralega-
lurad, midian Cvengan... Cvens ga-
dasarCenad, dasapureblad, Sesa-
mosavad... es maTi surviliT
xdeba? mTeli cxovreba amaze
ocnebobdnen? uxariaT? ara, ra
Tqma unda, ara! esaa ojaxis ga-
dasarCenad gaRebuli msxverpli,
TviTSewirva, uzarmazari riski,
radgan veravin iZleva asprocen-
tian garantias, rom ucxo qveya-
naSi yvelaferi kargad aewyoba.
Zalian didia imis albaToba,
rom Seilaxos maTi uflebebi,
Rirseba, safrTxe Seeqmnas fizi-
kur arsebobasac ki...
am werilSi ar vsaubrob im
qarTvel gogonebze, romlebic
saswavleblad Tu samuSaod mi-
emgzavrebian sazRvargareT. zo-
gierT maTgans umarTlebs, zogi-
erTs _ ara, zogierTi trefi-
kingis msxverplic ki xdeba _ es
calke saubris Temaa. amjerad im
qarTvel qalbatonebze mogaxse-
nebT, romlebic qmar-Svils to-
veben (cxadia, urTierTSeTanxme-
bis safuZvelze) da, RmerTma
uwyis, ramdeni xniT swydebian
mSobliur garemos. albaT, dame-
TanxmebiT, gamoricxulia, rom
maT bednierad igrZnon Tavi; ga-
moricxulia im SemTxvevaSic ki,
Tu, RvTis nebiT, gaumarTlebT
da keTilSobil adamianebTan da-
saqmdebian, romelTaTvisac ucxo
ar iqneba qristianobis umTavre-
si mcneba: `giyvardes moyvasi Se-
ni~ _ avi da kargi yvelganaa,
RmerTma amravlos da dalocos
aseTi ucxoelebi!
dasawyisSi aRvniSne, rom
araerTgvarovania qarTveli qa-
lebis damokidebuleba ojaxis
institutTan mimarTebiT, magram,
samagierod, erTgvarovania maTi
sulieri mdgomareoba, roca
fesvebs iZulebiT mowyvetilni
gadamTielis samsaxurSi dgebian
_ am mdgomareobas nostalgia,
ganuwyveteli dardi, samSoblo-
sa da ojaxis tkivilamde gam-
Zafrebuli monatreba hqvia da
saerTo araferi aqvs bedniere-
basTan. am mxriv tyupiscaliviT
hgvanan erTmaneTs ojaxSi mamaka-
cis erTpirovnuli liderobis
momxre da mowinaaRmdege qalba-
tonebi _ isini bevrni arian, Za-
lian bevri da, samwuxarod, ax-
la maT yofili colebi, yofili
dedebi da bebiebi (iqneb, yofili
qalebic?) hqviaT; mware realo-
baa, magram asea. roca qali
wlobiT tovebs ojaxs, oficia-
lurad Tu ara, araoficialu-
rad mainc xdeba `yofili~. axla
maT erTaderTi funqcia gaaCniaT
_ saqarTveloSi darCenili
ojaxis wevrebis rCena da isinic
uZleben, welebze fexs idgamen,
aTasgvari gaWirvebisa Tu damci-
rebis atanis fasad, ase Tu ise,
uzrunvelyofen sayvarel adami-
anebs _ cxadia, fortuna Zali-
an Wirveuli vinmea da yvelas ar
uRimis. es ician, magram mainc
midian soflelebi Tu qalaqe-
lebi, diasaxlisebi Tu mecnie-
rebi, xelovanebi Tu teqnokra-
tebi, gaunaTleblebi Tu inte-
leqtualebi... yvela erT qvabSi
ixarSeba _ maTi socialuri
statusi da cenzi warsulSi
darCa, awmyoSi ki vxedavT davr-
domili moxucebis momvlelebi-
sa da e.w. `beibisiTerebis~ armi-
as, romelic xan invalidis
etls daaqrolebs aRma-daRma da
xan aWyivlebul patara evro-
pels an amerikels ucvlis pam-
perss...
Cemo kargo qveyanav, razed
mogiwyeniao, _ ara? rogor ar
moiwyens, roca amdeni qarTveli
qalia mowyenili, gatanjuli,
samSoblodan emigrirebuli da
ukeTesi momavlis momlodine. es
ukeTesi momavali ki mova? isev
ilia: `ra giTxraT, riT gagaxa-
roT...~ dro yovelTvis iseTia,
rogoric Cven varT. maSasadame,
sanam Tavad ar gavxdebiT uke-
Tesni, arc ukeTesi momavlis
imedad yofna gvmarTebs.
ki, magram sad arian qarTve-
li mamakacebi? _ ismis ritori-
kuli SekiTxva. _ ram gadaagva-
ra da gadaajiSa isini? ratom
gaimetes aseTi satanjvelisaT-
vis TavianTi dedebi, debi, meuR-
leebi? ratom ahkides esoden
mZime tvirTi sust mxrebze? sad
dakarges saukuneTa manZilze ga-
momuSavebuli da Sesisxlxor-
cebuli sanaqebo unari qalis
dacvisa da gafrTxilebisa?
diaxac, gadagvardnen da da-
beCavdnen. cxadia, beCavia is ka-
ci, romelsac uRlidan Tavi da-
uxsnia, sakuTar ufunqciobasa
da ususurobas Seguebia da co-
lis gamogzavnil fuls elode-
ba Tvidan Tvemde. RmerTma dag-
vifaros, rom es yvelas exebo-
des, magram bolo wlebSi aSka-
rad TvalSisacemia aseTi ten-
dencia _ aRarc ki gvikvirs
taxtze wamokotrialebuli qmr-
ebisa da `saSovarze~ gadagebu-
li colebis arseboba. _ gana
Cven ki mogvwons aseTi cxovre-
ba, magram ra vqnaT, diplomi
saxlSi gviobdeba, samsaxuri
versad gviSovniao, _ amiT imar-
Tleben Tavs es ukacuri kacebi
da bolos daayoleben xolme, _
aba, yvelafers xom ver vikad-
rebTo. SeiZleba, vinmes zedme-
tad mkacrad moeCvenos Cemi Se-
faseba, magram mimaCnia, rom maT
aranairi gamarTleba ara aqvT da
arc SeiZleba hqondeT, radgan
amas mxolod Rirsebadakarguli
adamiani ityvis _ gamodis, rom
maT ukve ikadres yvelaze ukad-
rebeli ram, dakarges Rirseba.
gamodis, rom es axali drois
`Semodgomis aznaurebi~ Taki-
loben fizikur Sromas da raxan
kabinetebSi ver gamoiWimnen, yve-
laferze xeli aiRes. ai, qalma
ki ojaxis gadasarCenad `ikadra~
da daxlTan dadga, quCaSi daga-
va, sxvis moxucebuls mouara,
sxvisi bavSvi gaaseirna da daa-
Zina... qalisaTvis ufro Zvirfa-
si aRmoCnda ojaxis wevrebis ke-
TildReoba da sakuTar intere-
sebze, sakuTar Tavmoyvareobaze
maRla daayena qmari, Svili,
mSoblebi...
albaT, dameTanxmebiT, rom am
situaciaSi yvelaze damcirebu-
li da amazrzeni swored mamaka-
cia, e.w. Zlieri sqesis warmo-
madgeneli, romelsac an ver ga-
ucnobierebia Tavisi damamcire-
beli mdgomareoba, an, ubralod,
egueba mas. egueba da qreba, nav-
ldeba, iferfleba grZnoba, ro-
melic ojaxis Seqmnis safuZve-
li gaxda. gasakviria? vai, rom
aRar. ojaxebi an ingreva, an
fsevdo ojaxebiT icvleba.
... mavanis colma veRar gauZ-
lo TurqeTSi mZime CanTebis
Trevas da maRaziis mepatronis
`xanumoba~ arCia. Tavidan, cota-
ar iyos, eCoTireboda, magram me-
re Seifera da gautkba uzrun-
veli cxovreba. sofelSi xma ga-
varda da `keTilismsurvelebma~
qmarsac CaawveTes, Seni Tamro
is Tamro aRar ariso. qmarma er-
Ti kvira `kacurad~ iloTa, me-
re ki yurebi daixSo da Tvale-
bi daibrmava. rac mTavaria, mo-
Ralate coli regularulad
ugzavnida sakmaod solidur
Tanxas da kaci isev netarebiT
abolebda aCemebul `parla-
ments~, CacmiTac ise ecva, rom
Tanasoflelebs Suris rwyilebi
kbendaT...
... rZal-muli erTad gaemg-
zavra germaniaSi. erTad dasaqm-
dnen, binac erTad daiqiraves. ma-
le rZalma mepatronis simpaTia
daimsaxura, simpaTia ormxrivi
aRmoCnda da, bevri rom ar ga-
vagrZelo, qalma germaniaSi dar-
Cena da germanel `romeoze~
gaTxoveba gadawyvita; ganaTxo-
vari muli iman ki ar aRaSfoTa,
rom mis erTaderT Zmas ubodi-
Sod tovebdnen, aramed iman, rom
rZalma daaswro sakmaod mdida-
ri kacis gulis monadireba. Su-
riT gaxelebulma qalma Tbilis-
Si dareka da Zmas yvelaferi mo-
axsena. qmari, upirveles yovli-
sa, imiT dainteresda, ramdenad
sqeli jibis patroni iyo misi
Zvirfasi meore naxevris axali
meore naxevari, roca Tanxis ra-
odenoba daazusta, mzrunvel
daikos xalisiT gadmoulaga
colis intimuri saidumloebebi,
romelTa winaswar codna namd-
vilad ar awyenda ucxoel sasi-
Zos. amas, cxadia, is mohyva, rac
unda mohyoloda _ mulma yo-
velgvari sindisis qenjnis gare-
Se daaSantaJa rZali da soli-
duri Tanxac miiRo dumilis sa-
fasurad _ Zma, ra Tqma unda,
wilSi gaiyvana...
mgoni, gagrZeleba aRar
Rirs, ara?
axla isic vTqvaT, rom ukve
mTeli Taoba gaizarda udedod.
internatis bavSvebze ar mogax-
senebT, _ imaT vgulisxmob, vi-
sac wlebis ganmavlobaSi hyavda
`deda telefoniT~ da `deda
skaipiT~, vinc moklebuli iyo
dedis siTbos, mzrunvelobas,
kontrols, Zilis win moyolil
zRapars da `iavnanas~. gaizard-
nen, magram aRizardnen ki? dedis
wyalobiT xorcieli sazrdo ar
moklebiaT, magram sulieri? ra
garemoSi Camoyalibdnen? gada-
urCnen Tu ara moZalebul mas-
kulturas, WeSmariti faseulo-
bebis yalbi faseulobebiT Ca-
nacvlebis process? ai, es aris
sakiTxavi. samwuxaro da TavSi-
sacemi ki is gaxlavT, rom Tana-
medrove e.w. Tineijerebis (sity-
va `mozardi~ xom warsulis
gadmonaSTad iTvleba) garkveu-
li nawili Zalian kmayofilia
amgvari xvedriT _ maT sruliad
gauqraT dedis moferebis, mas-
Tan sulieri siaxlovis survi-
li, arc Zilispiruli da zRap-
rebi sWirdebaT, mTavaria, mSo-
belma materialurad uzrunvel-
hyos (Tundac cxra mTas iqidan),
mTavaria, ise ecvaT, iseTi mobi-
luri telefoni hqondeT, iseT
Ramis klubSi erTobodnen, rom
TavianT Tanatolebs araferSi
CamorCnen. cxadia, es yvelas ar
exeba, magram aseTi, mxolod ma-
terialur Rirebulebebze ori-
entirebuli axalgazrdebis ar-
seboba, mgoni, seriozuli gans-
jis sagania.
mgoni, isic sagangaSo faq-
tia, roca xelmokle ojaxSi
umamod gazrdili 18 wlis ymaw-
vili internetis meSveobiT Ta-
vad arCevs ucxoel saqmroebs
dedisaTvis _ raki `ar gaumarT-
la~ da deda sazRvargareT ver
dasaqmda, iqneb mdidar maminac-
vals mainc gamohkras xeli.
aristo qvaSavaZe maxsendeba, da-
uviwyari personaJi `samaniSvi-
lis dedinacvlidan~ (is mamidas
mainc aTxovebda)...
ra hqvia amas? saidan amdeni
uzneoba? iqneb davijeroT, rom
mizani marTlac amarTlebs sa-
Sualebas? rom yofiereba marT-
lac ganapirobebs cnobierebas?
visac dajereba ar gvsurs, yi-
JiniT gvawvebian, _ visac gvje-
ra, gagvatareTo. ra vqnaT, ga-
vataroT? pasuxi Senzea, mkiTx-
velo. pasuxi Senzea, radgan Za-
lian kargad mogexseneba, sai-
dan, vis mier da ra mizniT im-
Rvreva wyali. zeviT ukve aRv-
niSne, rom mterma meTodebi
Secvala, brZolis axali forma
gamoigona da radgan yvela
wmindanis saxis miReba SeuZlia,
garda RvTismSoblisa, swored
qals Seutia, swored misi
cduneba da damarcxeba gadawy-
vita_ Tu qalSi dedobrivi in-
stiqti Cakvdeba, Tu qali Tavad
moiWris RvTismSoblamde amaR-
lebis gzas, maSin mtersac gau-
ioldeba miznis miRweva. Sen
kargad ici, ra hqvia mters da
misi nebis aRmsruleblebs _
imaT, vinc gaafTrebiT ebrZvian
marTlmadideblur eklesias,
erovnul cnobierebas da, zoga-
dad, sulierebis yovelgvar ga-
movlinebas. rasakvirvelia, oj-
axis institutic maTi samiznea,
vinaidan ojaxis gareSe gazr-
dil adamians, xSir SemTxveva-
Si, ar gaaCnia mtkice zneobri-
vi sayrdeni da misiT manipuli-
reba sakmaod iolia.
es esmis yvelas, visac WeSma-
ritebis danaxva da gageba unda.
da radgan esmiT, isic Segnebuli
aqvT, rom swored qalia ojaxis
xerxemali, misi Semnaxveli da
gadamrCeni, magram qarTveli qa-
lebis did nawils dRes Tavad
sWirdeba Svela, Tanadgoma, auta-
neli tvirTisagan gaTavisufleba
(ukve iTqva, vis mxrebze unda ga-
danawildes es tvirTi). qarTve-
li qali unda daubrundes Tavis
ZiriTad arss, Tavis meobas. man
xelaxla unda gaacnobieros, rom
monad ar dabadebula da ufleba
aqvs, bednieri iyos Tavis samSob-
loSi, sayvareli adamianebis
gverdiT, xolo ucxoeTSi gamg-
zavrebas nebayoflobiTi xasiaTi
unda hqondes da ara_ iZulebiTi.
qarTvelma qalma Tavad unda ga-
dawyvitos, vis ekuTvnis: ufals,
samSoblos, ojaxs, sakuTar Tavs
Tu yvelafers erTad. aseTi Tavi-
sufali arCevanis SemTxvevaSi igi
gonivrul da Rirseul gadawyve-
tilebas miiRebs, magram manamde...
manamde yvela `adams~ didi mokr-
ZalebiT minda Sevaxseno (Tu ar
miwyenen), rom swored maT ekis-
rebaT pasuxismgebloba `evas~ si-
cocxleze, keTildReobasa da
jansaR fsiqikaze. `eva~ maTi nek-
nis nawilia da dRes es nekni gab-
zarulia.
ar gtkivaT, batonebo?!
nino sixaruliZe
gabzaruli nekni anu `visia, visia qali lamazi...~
18 saerTo gazeTi #34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.
vesaubrebiT parlamentar
petre mamraZes
_ batono petre, Tqven bolo
gamosavlis dros ganacxadeT, rom
momaval saparlamento arCevnebSi
monawileobas aRar miiRebT da
moRvaweobas momavalSi ukve sxva
struqturaSi _arasamTavrobo or-
ganizaciaSi gaagrZelebT, ratom
miiReT es gadawyvetileba?
_ mTeli am wlebis ganmavlo-
baSi me damigrovda didi masala
Cemi muSaobisa da dakvirvebis Se-
degad, analitika, qveyanaSi arse-
buli riskebis Sefaseba, mogexsene-
baT, wignis avtoric var da dRes
vxedav, rom Cemi margi qmedebis
koeficienti am etapze, gacilebiT
maRali iqneba am seqtorSi. aqve
minda davZino, rom rodesac adami-
ani aris politikur partiaSi, yo-
velTvis SezRudulia. rasac fiq-
rob, imas, srulyofilad, yovelT-
vis ver ityvi. mTavrobaSi roca
muSaob maSinac igive xdeba, raRac
CarCoebSi xar moqceuli Segaxse-
nebT erT faqts, wlebis win, ger-
maniis iusticiis ministrma ga-
nacxada, rom berluskonis gamosv-
la musolinis maxsenebso. am sity-
vebisaTvis mas meore dRes mouwia
gadadgoma! imitom, rom germaniis
mTavrobas sulac ar surda ita-
liis mTavrobasTan urTierTobis
gafuWeba. am SemTxvevaSi, ministr-
ma kanoni daarRvia, mas unda eTq-
va ara is, rasac fiqrobda, aramed
is, rac oficialuri xelisufle-
bisTvis iyo misaRebi. amitom, mi-
maCnia, rom roca adamians surs
Tqvas is, rasac fiqrobs, jer un-
da gadadges da mere Tqvas.
_ Cans, rom Tqven Zalian bev-
ri saTqmeli dagigrovdaT iseTi,
rac jer ar giTqvamT?
_ saTqmeli marTlac rom da-
migrovda, amitom me Cems daniSnu-
lebas vxedav am etapze imaSi, rom
Cems xalxs vuTxra, rac SeiZleba
meti simarTle da Tanac iseTi,
romelic maT Zalian sWirdebaT.
mTeli am oci wlis ganmavlobaSi
bevri ubedureba datrialda
Cvens Tavze, iyo bevri Secdome-
bic, imitom, rom xalxi ar iyo
informirebuli. miTi, Wori Tu
SeTqmulebis Teoria batonobda
saR azrze, amitomac iyo mudam qa-
osi. dRes me es gza avirCie, si-
marTlis Tqmis gza.
_ Tqven didi daxmareba gauwi-
eT `mwvaneTa partias~ am arCevne-
bis win, rodesac misi wevroba
aRidgineT da mieciT maT saSuale-
ba, miiRon saparlamento arCevneb-
Si monawileoba. risi saSualebac
maT wlebis ganmavlobaSi ar misce-
miaT...
_ diax, 1992 wels me parla-
mentSi gia gaCeCilaZesTan erTad
amirCies swored am partiis siiT,
isic minda dasZino, rom am parti-
as aqvs miznad dasaxuli is, rom
daicvas Cveni qveynis buneba, eko-
logia da mas yovelTvis bevri
mxardamWeri hyavda Cvens qveyanaSi.
qarTveli kacisTvis, buneba da sam-
Soblos dacva xom upirvelesia.
dRes am kuTxiT me gamovyofdi
baton biZina ivaniSvils. arc erT
politikur liders ara aqvs ise
gaTavisebuli saqarTvelos buneba,
misi dacva da movla, rogorc am
pirovnebas. mas es gacnobierebuli
aqvs mrwamsis doneze. me mimaCnia,
rom adamiani bunebasTan harmonia-
Si unda iyos da ara misi ganadgu-
rebiT dakavebuli. ocdameerTe sa-
ukuneSi es erT-erTi mTavari sa-
kiTxia. amitom, vinaidan `mwvaneTa
partia~ arCevnebSi warmoadgens
`qarTuli ocnebis~ koaliciis
erT-erT saxes, me mxars vuWer
maT. amis gamo aRvadgine Cemi wev-
roba am partiaSi.
_ praqtikulad Tqven `mwvanee-
bi~ gadaarCineT...
_ vfiqrob, es asec unda yofi-
liyo, magram vimeoreb, aqeTken me
mibiZga iman, rom isini biZina iva-
niSvils uWeren mxars, sxva SemTx-
vevaSi, me am nabijs ar gadavdgam-
di.
_ oci welia politikaSi xa-
rT, rogor SeafasebdiT ganvlil
periods, romeli wlebi iyo ufro
Zneli, rogorc Cveni samSoblo-
saTvis, ise parlamentSi muSaobis
TvalsazrisiT?
_ ganvlil periods Tu Seva-
faseb SemiZlia vTqva, rom 1992-
1995 wlebi urTulesi iyo, Ria
terorizmi iyo, SegaxsenebT, me im
manqanaSi vijeqi, romelsac bombi
esroles da masSi SevardnaZe iyo.
am SemTxvevis gamo pirvelad me
davade xeli jaba ioselians, xa-
CiSvils, igor giorgaZes da sxv-
ebs.
_ daSavdiT am afeTqebis
dros?
_ sakmaod davSavdi, Tumca,
yvelaze metad daSavdnen rCeuliS-
vili da SevardnaZe, aseve mZRo-
lic. rCeuliSvili fanjarasTan
ijda, amitom ufro metad daSavda,
moxvda bombis namsxvrevebi da xe-
lic dauzianda. me sxeuli damese-
ra namsxvrevebiT da yu-
ris barabnebi gamiskda.
magram maSin ra ar iyo,
iciT? kako boboxiZe ma-
Sinac mTvrali modioda
parlamentSi da maSinac
dedas igineboda, magram
Zala ar hqonda! maSin
qveyanaSi avtoritaruli
reJimi ar iyo! aseve, re-
Jimis TavkacTan daaxlo-
ebuli pirebi ver akont-
rolebdnen parlaments!
`sqiniusma~ rom `saa-
kaSvilis `klounebis
Teatri~ uwoda, am
xalxs rom ufro meti
gavlena aqvs parlament-
ze, vidre parlamentis
Tavmjdomares baqraZes,
_ maSin ase ar iyo! dRes
baqraZe dekoraciaa mxolod!
dRes, vidre vano merabiSvili
premier-ministri gaxdeboda, yve-
lam icoda, rom baqraZis da gila-
uris gavlena bevrad naklebi iyo
qveyanaSi, vidre vano merabiSvilis
maSindeli romelime moadgilis
is, rom Cveni parlamenti iqca, ame-
rikelTa SefasebiT, `rezinis
Stampad~, romelic yovel sxdoma-
ze `Stampavs~ saakaSvilis morig
axirebebs, es yvelasaTvis cnobi-
lia! is, rom konstitucias `Wri-
an da keraven~ ise, rogorc undaT
da samarcxvinod _ es araxalia! es
gaxlavT konstituciis abuCad ag-
deba da mTeli erisa! is, rom dRes
evropeli politikosebi saqarTve-
loze anegdotebs hyvebian, samar-
cxvino ar gaxlavT? TurqmeneTsac
ki adareben saqarTvelos, sadac
maSindelma prezidentma Turqmen
baSim konstituciaSi Seitana cv-
lileba, rom wlis erT-erT Tves
darqmeoda dedamisis saxeli! meo-
re Tves ki daarqva sayvareli po-
etis saxeli. man aseve Secvala
kviris dReebis saxelwodebebi. es
iyo 8-9 wlis win, anu arc Tu ise
Soreul wlebSi. parlamentSi
aris dRes sruliad daxSuli at-
mosfero, roca arsebobs sruli
umravlesoba _ 116 kaci naciona-
lebis warmomadgenlebi da kidev
ufro aqtiuri e.w. `opozicione-
rebi~ _ romlebic emsaxurebian na-
cionalebs _ sul raRac 20 kaci.
nacionalebis umravlesobis mTel
nawils, ramodenimes garda, wle-
bis ganmavlobaSi xma ar amouRiaT
ise isxden parlamentSi! dabolos,
minda vTqva, es aris yvelaze cudi
parlamenti rac ki Cvens istoria-
Si bolo 20 wlis ganmavlobaSi
yofila! praqtikulad, maT gatexes
parlamentis fici! me, srulad
Segnebulad SemiZlia vTqva, rom me
es fici ar gamitexavs, miuxedavad
imisa, rom xSirad iyo Cemze zewo-
la, fizikuri Tavdasxmis CaTvliT.
roca kako boboxiZe parlamentSi
Tavs damesxa, xeli ar gaminZrevia,
mxolod vfiqrobdi, rom damabra-
lebdnen, TiTqos kako boboxiZes
TiTebi vatkine Cemi Tavis qaliT
da amaze gamasamarTlebdnen! es ar
iyo gamoricxuli _ iseTi usamar-
Tloba trialebs qveynis parlamen-
tSi!
_ Tumca, Tqven parlamentari
iyaviT, yvelaferi televiziiT da-
fiqsirda da normalur qveyanaSi
sisxlis samarTlis saqme unda aR-
Zruliyo?
_ wesiT ki. wlebis win is xom
Jurnalistsac daesxa Tavs, magram
maSin is daawinaures kidec, gvar-
diis sardlad daniSnes pasuxism-
gebaSi micemis nacvlad! ai, aseT
qveyanaSi vcxovrobT!
2007 wels, kidev moifiqres
da gaakeTes is, rom parlaments
CamoaSores iseTi autaneli nacio-
naluri saxeebi, rogoric iyvnen
maia nadiraZe, da sxvebi. samagie-
rod, dRes uaresi saxeebi miiRes
wiklaurisa da boboxiZis saxiT.
dRes nugzar wiklauri gamo-
dis da acxadebs, rom biZina iva-
niSvili aris recidivisti da amas
Riad afiqsireben, imitom, rom ase-
Ti gamoTqmebi moswons saakaSvils.
imasac ver xvdebian, rom, rac uf-
ro meti eyolebaT parlamentSi
wiklaurebis, minaSvilebis, bobo-
xiZeebisa Tu gabaSvilisnairebi,
miT ufro wamgebian poziciaSi iq-
nebian da xalxis risxvas daimsa-
xureben.
dRevandelze ufro cudi da
qmeduunaro parlamenti qveyanas
jer ar hyolia! sabednierod, male
mTavrdeba am ficis gamtexi da sa-
marcxvino parlamentis vada!
_ parlamentaris ficSi yvela-
ze mTavari romeli punqtia?
_ es gaxlavT xalxis, adamia-
nebis interesebis, uflebebis dac-
va, qveynis usafrTxoebis dacva!
ficis gatexva Zvelidan moyole-
buli saqarTveloSi yvelaze sa-
marcxvinod iTvleboda da iTvle-
ba axlac. es ki ficis gamtexi
parlamentia! morCili parlamenti
rom ar yofiliyo, saa-
kaSvili ver miarTmevda
`langriT~ xelSi sa-
qarTvelos teritorie-
bis did nawils ruseTs.
_ oriode TveSi, 1
oqtombers, parlamentis
arCevnebi Catardeba, ama-
ze ras gvetyviT?
_ rodesac `davTre-
biT~ Sedian ojaxebSi
da gamokiTxvas atare-
ben, es sruli uazro-
baa, iq simarTles maT
aravin etyvis. marTa-
lia, SiSis sindromis
daZlevis niSnebi aSka-
raa, magram pirdapir
xalxi amas jer ar ake-
Tebs. Cemi upiratesoba
is gaxlavT, rom kargad
vicnob, rogorc saakaSvilis re-
Jims, aseve biZina ivaniSvils. ba-
toni biZina gaxlavT is adamiani,
romelic araviTar SemTxvevaSi ar
daarRvevs kanons da arc dauSvebs
qveyanaSi Zaladobas, magram vici,
rac moxdeba.
ramdeni xmac ar unda daagro-
vos batoni biZinas `qarTulma oc-
nebam~ `nacionaluri moZraoba~ 30
procentze mets ar gamoacxadebs!
samarTliani arCevnebi rom iyos,
is 70 procentamde xmebs moipo-
vebs, magram masobrivi gayalbebis
Semdeg, administraciuli resur-
sis gamoyenebis Semdeg. daterore-
bis Semdeg `nacebi~ ki ar daiTv-
lian xmebs, aramed pirdapir gamo-
acxadeben, rom miiRes 60-70 pro-
centze meti. `Tavis momxre~ opo-
ziciasac Seiyvanen parlamentSi,
biZina ivaniSvils ki `ar gamouwe-
ren~ 30 procentze mets; me amaSi
sruliad, darwmunebuli var! mere
ki, isini yvelaferze wamsvlelebi
arian!
Tu xalxis protesti ar dacx-
reba da iqneba Zlieri talRa, ro-
melic saxlSi ar wava ise, ro-
gorc adre, eri gaimarjvebs!
erTi ram unda gaigos xalxma.
eseni xelisuflebidan nebiT wams-
vlelni ar arian!
_ msoflio praqtikaSi xom
xdeba ise, rogorc amerikaSi mox-
da, rom, SesaZlebelia, da Tu
xalxis neba iqneba, xmebis xelaxa-
li gadaTvla, Tu ocdaaT procen-
tian `qviTars~ gamouweren biZina
ivaniSvils, rogorc Tqven TqviT,
xalxma amaze xma unda amoiRos...
es kanonieria...
_ xmebis gadaTvlas sWirdeba
safuZveli, es safuZveli unda
scnos saarCevno komisiam da Sesa-
bamisma sasamarTloebma. CvenSi es
dRes SeuZlebelia.
eTer kasreliSvili
waval televizors
CavrTav, iqneb `rusTa-
vi-22~, `imedma~ an pir-
velma arxma Tqvas, _
putinis jibidan amoRebul
fuls xelfasebad rom iRebda
xelisufleba, maSin sxva putini
iyo? an soflis meurneo-
bis mdgradad aRorZinebis
mosurneebma, ratom uTx-
res am sazizRar ivaniS-
vils sofelSi miliardis
Cadebaze uari, maSin xom
politikaSi ar iyo Semos-
uli da xelfasebs aZlev-
da amaT, yazarmebs aSeneb-
da da a.S. raRacebs ver
vigeb da iqneb gavnaTlde.
raRac sazizRari
da antisaxelmwi-
foebrivi kiTxvebi
modis Tav-
Si,etyoba sabWoTa bavSvo-
bis bralia... netav romelime
kgb-ss daqvemdebarebul insti-
tutSi meswavla,xom momividoda
patriotuli kiTxvebi azrad?
aba, gpi damTavrebuls,ra meco-
dineba...an biZa mainc myoloda
sabWoTa kgb-ss an ruseTis spec-
samsaxurebis generali
mixeil saakaSvili:
,,meti saqme ara maqvs
Cemi aSenebuli qveyana
Tqven gadmogabaroT da
Tqven dagangrevinoT!”......
es sityvebi man baTumSi ga-
nacxada da es ukve Camoyalibe-
buli diqtatoris sityvebia!
sruli pasuxismgeblobiT vacxa-
deb - saakaSvili Camoyalibebu-
li diqtatoria
Sejibrebis dReebSi
rogor amayad, wamdau-
wum gvimeorebdnen ko-
mentatorebi, SexedeT,
rogor seriozuli gamometyve-
lebiT zis Cveni gundis Tav-
kaci, avstrieli zaizenbaxe-
rio! „toJe mne ivan grozni“!
im munjad jdomas sjobda
sxva qveynis mwvrTnelebiviT
cota meti eyvira, SeniSvna
da rCeva mieca sportsmenebi-
saTvis, egeb ukeTesi Sedegic
gvqonoda. Tundac Sexvedris
damTavrebamde, 5 wamiT adre,
SukvanisTvis qarTulad rom
SeeZaxa: aba, vaJkaco, axla
WkuiTao, egeb jer kidev ymaw-
vils, 4 welnavarjiSev-nnaja-
fars ukeTesi SedegisTvis mi-
eRwia ... magram ver iswavla
ucxo Citma qarTulad WikWiki.
an raSi sWirdeba? mofrinda, mo-
kenka da gafrindeba! amazea naT-
qvami: TuraSaulis patroni,
tyeSi eZebda „zaxer-mmaxerebso“!
xalxis azriT
darwmunebuli var, `nacionalebi~ arCevnebSi`qarTul ocnebas~ ocdaaT procentze mets ar `gamouweren~, riTac qveyanas
samoqalaqo dapirispirebisTvis wiraven...
19saerTo gazeTi#34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.
dRevandeli “sazogadoebrivi
mauwyeblis” erT-erT “cnobad
saxesac sazogadoebriv mauwye-
belze dabrunebuli da viTom
Jurnalisti daviT paiWaZe war-
moadgens. paiWaZes Jurnalisti-
kasTan mxolod diplomi Tu
akavSirebs, Torem paiWaZis pro-
fesionaluri saqmianoba iseve
Sorsaa Jurnalistikisgan, ro-
gorc saxelisuflebo arxebze
“momuSave” bevri Jurnalistisa
da gadacemebis wamyvanis. maT
mTavar davalebac, ara marTla
sazogadoebis moTxovnisa da in-
teresis gaTvaliswineba, aramed
mxolod nacionalebis ideolo-
giuri kursis gatarebaa. eklesi-
asa da samarTlianobasTan mebr-
Zoli “profesionali wamyvanisa
da Jurnalistis” saxedac, bolo
periodSi _ swored daviT paiWa-
Ze iqca. SegaxsenebT, rom es is
daviT paiWaZea, romelic “iv. ja-
vaxiSvilis saxelobis Tbilisis
saxelmwifo universitetis”
Jurnalistikis kaTedris dekano-
bidan mas Semdeg gaaTavisufles,
rac xelisuflebam korufcias-
Tan brZolis sababiT, jer uni-
versitetis avtonomia gaauqma.
22 fakultetidan eqvsi datova.
bolos ki, universitetis pro-
fesuraze, leqtorebsa da stu-
dentebze TvalTvalis mizniT,
kabinetebsa da auditoriebSi
saTvalTvalo kamerebic daayena.
universitetis profesorebis
gadmocemiT, swored erT-erT
aseT kameras daufiqsirebia da-
viT paiWaZisa da misi megobari
ymawvilis “erTob pikanturi ur-
TierTobac”. sazogadoebaSi skan-
dalis da paiWaZis “umwikvlo
reputaciis” gadasarCenad, samu-
Saod isev sazogadoebriv mauwye-
belze gadaiyvanes. xelisufle-
bac aseT kadrebs xom “sanTliT
daeZebs da civ niavsac ar aka-
rebs”. swored amitom, vis Tu
ara daviT paiWaZis pirdapiri
movaleoba iyo im samociqulo
marTlmadidebluri eklesiis
mitropolitis ganqiqeba, rome-
lic “paiWaZis orientaciis” uz-
neobas amxels da sazogadoebas
maT garyvnilebaze miuTiTebs. xe-
lisuflebis madliersa da misi
antimarTlmadidebluri ideo-
logiis mimdevarsac, vis, Tu ara
daviT paiWaZes unda moewyo im
meufe iobis “sajaro gankiTxva”,
romelic patriarqis Semdeg sa-
zogadoebaSi didi siyvaruliTa
da avtoritetiT sargeblobs.
yvelaze mTavari ki is gaxlavT,
rom meufe iobi saqarTvelos mo-
saxleobis udides nawilTan er-
Tad ivaniSvilis aqciaze misuli
ixila xalxma. es ki “paiWaZis
magvarTa modgmisTvis” sagangaSo
signalad unda qceuliyo! amdeni
“nawvaleb- naSromi” _ “eklesii-
sa da mRvdelmTavrebis saxelis
gatexvisTvis gaweuli Sroma”
saakaSvils gunds wyalSi eyreba.
erica da beric erTad udgeba
saakaSvilis “nomer pirvel
mters” _ ivaniSvils! es, miuxe-
davad “fdms” (“farisevel-de-
mokratebis”) nacionalur moZra-
obasTan umravlesobis Seqmnis
didi imedisa umravlesobiT, bi-
Zina ivaniSvilis “qarTuli oc-
nebis” gamarjvebas moaswavebs!
ivaniSvilisa da “qarTuli su-
lis” gamarjvebam ki (TavisTa-
vad), SesaZloa, “paiWaZis msgavs-
Ta zneobriv parpaSsac” Seuqmnas
problemebi?! amis gamo “jojo-
xeTidan reportaJebs” (cxra
wlis Semdegac) ar daukargavT
aqtualoba!
paiWaZis gadacemis “wiTel
xazSi” _ “sad unda gadiodes
zRvari sasuliero piris saqmia-
nobasa da politikas Soris”,
naTlad gamoikveTa meufe iobze
uaryofiTi sazogadoebrivi azris
Seqmnis mcdeloba. aman naciona-
lebs eklesiis saboloo ganadgu-
rebaSi xeli rom ar SeeSaloT,
(eklesiaSi Segzavnili “naciona-
li emisrebis” xeliTa da patri-
arqze zewoliT) sabolood meu-
fe iobis eklesiidan CamoSoreba
unda gamoiwvios! viTom Jurna-
listi paiWaZis gadacemac sazoga-
doebrivi azris amgvarad formi-
rebas isaxavda miznad. Tumca
“liberasti Jurnalistis” gada-
cema imdenad ususuri da arapro-
fesionaluri aRmoCnda _ saeWvoa,
nacionalebis madloba daimsaxu-
ros. ”eklesiis modernizaciisa
da liberasturi azrovnebis”
mqone, (aw ukve yofili dekano-
zic), Tuki sadme marTlmadideb-
lur eklesiaze uaryofiT azria
dasafiqsirebeli, iq aucileblad
kobaxiZec Cndeba! (paiWaZis Semd-
gom gadacemaSi, albaT, beqa min-
diaSvilsac vixilavT.) kobaxiZec,
misTvis Cveuli demagogiiTa da
arakompetenturobiT cdilobda
paiWaZis poziciis gamyarebas. uR-
merTobam, (ucxoeTSi xangrZlivi
swavlisas) “mowamlulma libe-
rasturma azrovnebam”, sCans, go-
neba masac ise daubnela, rom pat-
riarqis qadagebidan swori dask-
vnebis gamotanis unaric daakarg-
vina. “sinodis dadgenilebiT gas-
ca eklesiam pasuxi da patriar-
qic TviTon ewinaaRmdegeba saku-
Tari sinodis dadgenilebaso”.
ekumenisti kobaxiZisgan gasakviri
araa, “sinods patriarqis sakuT-
rebad” Tvlis. arc isaa misi
problema marTlmadidebluri
qveynebis gverdigverd dgomaSi,
moskovis (da ara marTlmadideb-
luri ruseTis) sapatriaqros
doqtrinas rom xedavs. problema
isaa, (yofili dekanozi) saqarT-
velos gadarCenis gzas istoriu-
lad qristianul-marTlmadideb-
lur samyarosTan gverdSi dgo-
miT rom ver xedavs! nacionalebis
msagavsad, isev “bua ruseTTan”
dakavSireba rom surs yvelafris.
amasTan, patriarqis qadagebaSi
(rac sazogadoebam, patriarqisgan
swored meufe iobis mxardaWerad
aRiqva) kobaZiZem, patriarqis si-
nodis gadawyvetilebisgan gamij-
vnad gaigo da es azri, gadacemis
ganmavlobaSi, araerTxel gaimeo-
ra. anu sazogadoebisTvis gankuT-
vnili gzavnili _ “patriarqsa da
sinods erTmaneTis ar esmiTo!”_
dafiqsirebul iqna! araprofesio-
nalurad momzadebul gadacemaSi,
(uneblied) paiWaZesac gaepara,
rom “sasuliero pirebi xSirad
xvdebian parlamentis Tavmjdoma-
resa da prezidentsac”, riTac,
Turme “patriarqma dezavuireba
gaukeTa imas, rom saqarTvelos
samRvdeloeba da eklesia aqtiu-
rad da Riad uWers mxars arse-
bul xelisuflebas”?! (am simar-
TliT gaamarjvebinos naciona-
lur moZraobas mtkicebulebad
moyvanil iqna is, rom “guSinwin
patriarqi iyo TelavSi da pre-
zidentTan erTad Wiqac awiao”.
patriarqi Tavis saqmeebze marT-
lac iyo Casuli TelavSi, magram
saakaSvili aravis daupatiJebia
iq! saakaSvils xalxis mxardaWe-
ra Semoaklda da “mawanwala ZaR-
liviT” aqeT aekida patriarqs,
radgan, sadac patriaria- iq sa-
qarTvelo da qarTveli xalxia!
is, visi mxardaWerac saakaSvils
dRes “haeriviT sWirdeba” da
“Tu ivaniSvils meufe iobi ud-
gas gverdiT, (da patriarqic, ra-
tom ara?!) me patriarqi midga-
so” _ yvelas rom daanaxos. par-
tiarqs daupatiJebeli stumari-
viT daadga Tavze TelavSi. saa-
kaSvilis gauzrdeloba ra pat-
riarqis bralia?! “sufrasTan mi-
cucqebul” e.w. prezidents ki
ara, Semoswrebul maTxovarsac
dausxamda patriarqi Rvinos da
miipatiJebda sufrasTan. ase rom,
xelisuflebis sasargeblod ga-
keTebuli es pasaJic mxolod pa-
iWaZis Jurnalistur araprofe-
sionalizmze metyvelebda. maSin,
rodesac saqarTveloSi nacebis
antimarTlmadidebluri, antisa-
xelmwifoebrivi da aniqarTuli
kursis gamo “antinacisturi
talRa” zvirTdeba, sinodis gan-
Cinebaze sasaubrod (ekumenisti)
kobaxiZis mowvevac _ sruli di-
letantizmi iyo. Jurnalistur
araprofesionalizme miuTiTebda
konstituciuri SeTanxmebaze ape-
lirebac. Turme “konstituciuri
SeTanxmebac, (gansakuTrebiT ki
sinodis bolo ganCineba), erTma-
neTisgan mijnavs sasuliero da
saero moRvaweobas”. Sen Jurna-
listoba vin dagabrala, paWaZev?!
Tu (konkordatis safuZvelze),
eklesiisa da xelisuflebis er-
TmaneTis saqmianobaSi Caurevlo-
baze apelireb, imas ratom ar
gaxsendeba, 4 ivlisis Rames, (si-
nodis cnobili sxdobis win,
swored mis saqmianobaSi Casare-
vad), rogor micvivdnen ugulava,
TofuriZe da kervaliSvili sa-
patriarqoSi, mTeli Rame iq ro-
gor isxdnen?! rogor Seuvarda
ugulava partiarqs “samebis” sa-
kurTxevelSi. ra drosac parti-
arqis qadagebis Semdeg ara Tu
saero, sasuliero pirsac ambio-
nidan qadagebis ufleba ara aqvs,
gaixsene, erTi, ramdenjer avard-
nila da ra politikuri gancxa-
debebi ukeTebia jer kidev “pre-
zidentad wodebul araraobas”
ambionidan?! am dros ratom ar
gaxsendeba konkordati?! rac Se-
exeba mRvdelmTavrebis mier ambi-
onidan qadagebas, diaxac, sabed-
nierod (da Tqveni gulebis dasa-
xeTqad), meufe iobisa da bevri
sasuliero piris saxiT, jer ki-
dev Zalian bevri gvyavs iseTi
mRvdelmTavrebi da mamebi, rom-
lebic swored saqarTvelosTvis
yvelaze umZimes periodSi Tavis
xalxis gverdiT dgebodnen, dge-
bian da dadgebian!
`maRali zneobisa da mora-
lis~ paiWaZis gadacemaSi “qar-
Tuli ocnebisadmi” arakeTil-
ganwyobilma politikurma Za-
lebmac Sesabamisi gancxadebebi
akeTes: “edp”-m, romelic parla-
mentSi moxvedrisTvis naciona-
lebTan valSia: “politika da
eklesia unda iyos gamijnuli.
qadagebebi ki imaze mianiSnebs,
rom sworedac ereviano”. “ax-
lebmac”, romlebic erT dros
patriaqris ideas “konstituci-
uri monarqiis” Sesaxeb ase
uWerdnen mxars, dRes ki nacio-
nalebma “gverdze moaCoCes”: “ar
unda CaerTon am procesebSio”.
“fdm” ki, romelic “patriarqis
kurTxeviT” politikaSi mosv-
laze Tavad aqcentirebda mudam.
axla ki nacionalebis pirvel
satelitad moiazreba _ “ekle-
sia polarizaciaSi ar unda ga-
davideso.” es gadacemac paiWaZis
Jurnalisturi karieri~, sruli
fiasko iyo da mis adgilze nam-
dvil Jurnalits ekranze gamo-
Cenisac ki Sercxveboda! Tumca
paiWaZisnairebTan sircxvili ra
mosatania?!
baia amaSukeli
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biZina iivaniSvili JJurnalistebs mimarTavs: CCven yyvelafers ggavakeTebT,
rom ddaibrunoT RRirsebakoalicia „qarTu-
li ocnebis“ lideri
biZina ivaniSvili
Jurnalistebs mimar-
Tavs.
„nu SegeSindebaT
zedmetad. gamoiCineT
da gauwieT moqalaqe-
obrivi winaaRmdegoba.
nu SeebrZolebiT sakuTar momavals da nu gau-
fuWebT Tqvens Svilebs xvalindel dRes. Cven maT
aucileblad gavistumrebT pirvel oqtombers. Za-
lian cota dro darCa, imisTvis, rom Tqven sa-
zogadoebas daumtkicoT, Tu rogor winaaRdmego-
bas uwevT am sicruesa da sicruis meqanizms, ro-
melsac erTi kaci nergavs,“ - ganacxada biZina
ivaniSvilma foTSi mosaxleobasTan Sexvedrisas.
misive TqmiT, sazogadoeba Zalian gaRizianebu-
lia bevr Jurnalistze.
„Cemi Txova da sazogadoebis moTxovna iqneba,
rom rogorme pozicia SeicvaloT, rogorme gax-
deT ufro obieqturebi, nu eqvemdebarebiT Zala-
dobas. unda moaxerxoT da dabrundeT sazogado-
ebaSi. Tqven realurad warmoadgenT meoTxe xeli-
suflebas, daibruneT Tqveni Zalaufleba, emsaxu-
reT xalxs da nu emsaxurebiT erT kacs, Cven yve-
lafers gavakeTebT rom Tqven daibrunoT Rirse-
ba,“ - aRniSna biZina ivaniSvilma.
biZina iivaniSvili: 330-ssaukuniani uwyveti iistoriis qqveyanas
dRevandeloba aar eekadrebakoalicia „qarTuli ocnebis“ lideris biZina
ivaniSvilis gancxadebiT, aseTi didi kulturisa
da 30-ssaukuniani uwyveti istoriis qveyanas dRe-
vandeloba ar ekadreba.
„Cvens gasakeTebels aravin gaakeTebs. arc ev-
ropa da arc amerika. Cveni saxli Cven TviTon un-
da davalagoT, amas elodeba mTeli msoflio.
Cven unda movaxerxoT da davibrunoT Rirseba.
Cven unda movaxerxoT da davibrunoT Cveni sam-
Soblo, avaSenoT Sesatyvisi qveyana aseTi didi
kulturisa da 30- saukuniani uwyvetis istori-
is qveyanas dRevandeloba ar ekadreba, Cven amas
ar vimsaxurebT,“ - ganacxada biZina ivaniSvilma
foTelebTan Sexvedrisas.
`medianiusi~
20 saerTo gazeTi #34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.
`̀TTiiTTqqooss nneellii wwaammeebbiiTT ssiikkvvddii-
llii mmaaqqvvss mmoossjjiillii ddaa aamm wwaammeebbiiss
xxaannggrrZZlliivv ggzzaass ssaamm-ssaammwwlliiaannii
ssiiCCqqaarriiTT ggaavvddiivvaarr kkiiddee.. eess vveerr
ggaammiiggiiaa,, ssaammSSoobblloo iimmiittoomm mmiiyy-
vvaarrss,, rroomm aassee SSoorrssaa vvaarr,, TTuu iimmii-
ttoomm vvaarr aassee SSoorrss,, rroomm aassee ZZllii-
eerraadd mmiiyyvvaarrss ssaammSSoobblloo.. ssaadd aarr
mmaaTTrriieess,, ssaadd aarr ggaaddaammaaggddeess,, ssaadd
aarr mmaawwvvaalleess.. yyvveellaaffeerrss rroomm CCaavv-
yyeevvii ddaa ggaavviixxsseennee,, TTvviiTToonn ggaannvvcc-
vviiffrrddii,, nnuuTTuu yyvveellaaffeerrii mmee mmxxvvddaa
wwiillaadd...... CCeemmss TTaavvzzee mmZZiimmee zzRRaappaarr-
mmaa ggaaddaaiiaarraa.. eerrTTii aaddaammiiaanniissTTvviiss
eess bbeevvrrzzee bbeevvrriiaa ggaaddaassaattaannaadd ddaa
ddaauujjeerreebbeelliicc~~,, _ werda `mav-
TulsiqiTa~ samyarodan gamogzav-
nil baraTSi levan goTua, `bib-
liuri kaci~, romelmac 22 weli
gaatara gadasaxlebaSi.
1960 wels gamocemul isto-
riul roman `gmirTa varams~,
romlis tiraJi 30-aTasiani iyo
da umokles xanSi gaiyida, ar ga-
aCnda winasityvaoba, Tu vin iyo
am wignis avtori. es arc aris
gasakviri, radgan im dros vera-
vin gabedavda raimes Tqmas mwe-
ralze, romelmac sicocxlis me-
samedi _ 22 weli sabWoTa bana-
kebSi gaatara da sadac dawera
kidec es nawarmoebi.
romanis gamoqveynebis Semde-
gac, karga xans mkiTxvelTa ume-
tesobam TiTqmis araferi icoda
misi tragikuli biografiis Sesa-
xeb, vidre 1990 wels Jurnal
`mnaTobSi~ ar daibeWda mwerlis
da-Zmis _ Tamar da sandro goTu-
ebis `Tavgadasavali levan goTu-
asi~. es aris dRiuri-dokumenti,
romelSic ara marto mwerlis,
aramed goTuebis ojaxis Tavgada-
savalia gadmocemuli. es dRiure-
bi 25 welze meti xnis ganmavlo-
baSi iwereboda da masSi, erTi
ojaxis istoriasTan erTad, qvey-
nis ocdaaTiani da ormocdaaTia-
ni wlebis cxovrebaa gadmocemu-
li.
oojjaaxxii,, ppiirrvveellii
ppaattiimmrroobbaa
levanis mamas _ parTen goTu-
as, sazogado moRvawes, Jurna-
listsa da mwerals, akaki wereT-
lis megobars `samSoblos fxi-
zel da erTgul darajad~ moix-
seniebda misi Tanamedrove moRva-
we ioseb imedaSvili. uzrunveli
bavSvoba maSin dasrulda, roca
goTuebis ojaxis TiTqmis yvela
wevri qaliSvilis qorwilSi da-
apatimres. mere ra, rom Semowme-
bis Semdeg meore dResve gamouS-
ves yvela, magram ojaxs zeimi Ca-
aSxames...
1921 wels, roca wiTeli ar-
mia saqarTveloSi SemoiWra, 16
wlis levani da misi Zma arCili
ojaxisgan malulad, moxa-
liseebad gaiparnen omSi _
tabaxmelaSi, kojrisa da
uZos misadgomebTan uTanas-
woro brZola mimdinareob-
da da Wabukma patriotebma
swored iq miiRes sabrZolo
naTloba. marTalia, sikv-
dils Tavi daaRwies, arc
Wrilobebi miuRiaT, magram
fizikurad daZabunebulebi
da gulgatexilebi erT kvi-
raSi ojaxSi dabrundnen.
sruliad axalgazrdebi gau-
gonari sisastikis mowmeni
gaxdnen da es STabeWdile-
bebi didxans ar ganelebiaT _
Tvalwin xSirad wamoutivtivde-
bodaT, Tu rogor asaflavebdnen
saZmo saflavebSi mebrZolebs...
bolSevikuri xelisuflebis
damyarebis Semdeg im adamianebis
devna daiwyo, vinc maT saqarTve-
loSi Semosvlas ewinaaRmdegebo-
da. represiebis wnexi maleve iw-
vnies goTuebma, roca CamoarTves
qoneba, saxlis didi nawili da
meTvalyure missave saxlSi miu-
Cines...
1924 wels _ bolSevikTa wi-
naaRmdeg Cafiqrebuli agvistos
ajanyeba moRalateebma gasces da
daiwyo sayovelTao sisxliani
terori. ajanyebis uSualo mona-
wileebTan erTad udanaSaulo
xalxs apatimrebdnen da xvretd-
nen. daWeras verc levani gadaur-
Ca da verc mamamisi. erTmaneTs
cixeSi Sexvdnen, sadac Svidi Tve
gaatares. patimrebze zemoqmede-
bis ra xerxebs ar iyenebdnen. er-
Txel, SuaRamisas, viTom Secdo-
miT, levanis nacvlad parTen go-
Tua gaaRviZes da dasaxvretad
wayvana daupires. sasowarkveTili
mama emudareboda cixis jala-
Tebs, oRondac Cemi Svili ara, me
damxvriteTo... im avbediT 24
wels cocxlebi gadaurCnen...
1925 wels goTuebis ojaxi
abasTumanSi isvenebda, roca Ce-
kistebma levani daapatimres.
axalcixis mazris partiulma
xelmZRvanelma saidumlo paketiT
acnoba saqarTvelos sagangebo
komisiis saidumlo operatiuli
sammarTvelos ufross lavrenti
berias, rom goTuebis binaSi
Cxrekisas antisabWoTa mimoweras
miakvlies... levans faSisturi
organizaciis Camoyalibeba daab-
rales da sami wliT patimroba
miusajes. aseTebisTvis qarTuli
cixeebi ar `emetebodaT~ da amje-
rad 20 wlis levani, samSoblos
moRalatis iarliyiT, Soreul
aRmosavleTSi, soloveckis kun-
Zulebisken ise gauyenes gzas,
rom axloblebTan xeirianad ga-
momSvidobebis uflebac ar mis-
ces.
ppiirrvveellii ggaaddaassaaxxlleebbaa
cixed gadakeTebul mamaTa mo-
nasterSi aRmoCnda. `istoriulad
ZZvveell-ddiiddeebbuullmmaa cciixxee-ssiimmaaggrreemm,,
aammjjeerraadd CCaaffooxxiillmmaa,, ggaappaarrttaaxxee-
bbuullmmaa ddaa CCaaSSaavveebbuullmmaa bbaannaakkmmaa,,
mmZZiimmee SSTTaabbeeWWddiilleebbaa ddaammiittoovvaa...... CCee-
mmii bbeeddiiss ddaacciinnvvaa ddaa uukkuuRRmmaarrTToo-
bbaa mmaaggrrZZnnoobbiinnaa.. ggaaZZlleebbaazzee ddaa aarr-
sseebboobbaazzee CCaammaaffiiqqrraa.. vveerrcc wwaarrmmoo-
iiddggeennTT,, rraa xxddeebbaa aaqq.. eess yyoovveelliivvee
aammqqvveeyynniiuurrii aarr aarriiss...... jjeerrjjeerroo-
bbiiTT mmee TTvviiTToonn vveerr ggaavveerrkkvviiee aamm
jjoojjooxxeeTTSSii......~~ (levan goTuas we-
rilidan).
am banakSi ZiriTadad sisxlis
samarTlis damnaSaveebi _ mkvle-
lebi da banditebi ixdidnen sas-
jels, sadac `̀ppoolliittiikkuurrii TTuu
ssiissxxlliiss ssaammaarrTTlliiss ddaammnnaaSSaavvee,,
TTiiTTooeeuullii ppiirroovvnneebbaa ggaaddaaxxeeuulliiaa,,
rrooggoorrcc CCvveennii ccxxoovvrreebbaa......~~ (levan
goTua). aseT CaJamebul yofaSi,
sadac moqmedebda `sisastikisa da
ulmoblobis saSineli kanonebi~,
sadac mZvinvarebda `adamianTa
sikvdili, rogorc sruliad Cve-
ulebrivi, ulmo-
beli ambavi~, qar-
Tvelebi erTmane-
Tis gatanas cdi-
lobdnen. `Crdi-
loeTis patara
ubnis saqarTve-
loSi~ devizic
hqondaT _ `urTi-
erTgamagreba, da-
xmareba, erT mu-
Wad Sekvra. mZime
duxWiris gadata-
na da sicocxlis
SenarCuneba...~ sx-
vagvarad Tavis ga-
darCena SeuZlebe-
li iqneboda sa-
koncentracio ba-
nakSi, romelic
`gansacvifrebeli
da autaneli Ser-
wymaa `drostare-
bisa~ da patimar-
Ta tragikuli be-
diswerisa~.
garkveuli periodis Semdeg,
levani sakoncentracio banakidan
gaaTavisufles da patimroba Ta-
visufali gadasaxlebiT, minus
eqvsiT Seucvales; ese igi, le-
vans yvelgan SeeZlo Tavisufal
gadasaxlebaSi wasuliyo garda
eqvsi qalaqisa, maT Soris iyo
dedaqalaqebi da sazRvrispira qa-
laqebi.
TTaavviissuuffaallii
ggaaddaassaaxxlleebbaa
ssaammSSoobblloossTTaann aaxxllooss
ojaxma sacxovreblad vladi-
kavkazi SearCia, radgan parTen
goTua erTxans am qalaqSi muSa-
obda da megobrebic hyavda, rom-
lebsac levanis daxmareba SeeZ-
loT. Tavisufali gadasaxleba
ki erqva, magram sakoncentracio
banakis wesebiT cxovreba daud-
gines _ vladikavkazSi Casvlis-
Tanave aRricxvaze aiyvanes, qa-
laqidan gausvlelobis xelwe-
rili daadebines da kviraSi er-
Txel `CekaSi~ gamocxadebis
valdebulebac daakisres. roca
ufrosi Zmis _ arCilis gardac-
valebis ambavi Seityo, arad Ca-
agdo mosalodneli mkacri sas-
jeli da TbilisSi Camovida.
sxva drosac gauriskavs ramden-
jerme da Zmis saflavze Casula,
mamac ki unaxavs, Tumca Sin, ra-
sakvirvelia, ver mividoda.
imdrondel vladikavkazSi ar-
sebobda qarTvelTa mraval-
ricxovani saTvistomo _ 10 aTa-
si qarTveliT. hqondaT qarTuli
skola da eklesia. vladikavkazSi
levanma qarTul skolaSi qarTu-
li enisa da literaturis mas-
wavleblad daiwyo muSaoba, am-
bobda _ egeba, Cemi maswavleblo-
biT aqauri qarTveloba gadagva-
rebisgan gadavarCinoo. litera-
turul saqmianobasac swored
vladikavkazSi mohkida xeli.
`̀mmaarrTTaalliiaa,, aaxxaallggaazzrrddaa iiyyoo,,
mmaaggrraamm rrooccaa iiss SSeeddiiooddaa kkllaassSSii
ggaakkvveeTTiilleebbzzee,, TTaavviissii ddiinnjjii,, wwyynnaa-
rrii ssaauubbrriiTT aajjaaddooeebbddaa mmoommaavvaall
CCvveennss TTaaoobbaass...... qqaarrTTuullii lliitteerraa-
ttuurraa ddaa ssaaqqaarrTTvveelloo lleevvaannmmaa bbaavv-
SSvveebbss iimmddeennaadd SSeeaayyvvaarraa,, rroomm
11993300-iiaann wwlleebbSSii bbeevvrrii qqaarrTTuullii
oojjaaxxii ggaaddmmoovviiddaa TTbbiilliissSSii
ssaaccxxoovvrreebbllaadd......~~ _ ixsenebda Sem-
dgomSi misi kolega-maswavlebe-
li.
karg saqmes rom akeTebda, es
Segnebuli hqonda, magram Sinaga-
nad Zalzed daZabuli da afori-
aqebuli iyo. es ganwyoba daufa-
ravad Cans mamisadmi gagzavnil
erT-erT werilSi:
`̀......rreeggiissttrraacciiaazzee ZZvveelleebbuurraadd
ddaavvddiivvaarr.. aammaass ggaarrddaa,, eexxllaa yyoovveell
TTvveeSSii eerrTTxxeell ddaakkiiTTxxvvaazzee uunnddaa
vviiaarroo,, mmaaTT aarr mmoosswwoonnTT,, mmee rroomm
qqaarrTTuull sskkoollaaSSii vvaarr...... qqaarrTTuull
kkoolloonniiaass kkvvllaavv ggaammooccooccxxlleebbaa
eettyyoobbaa,, mmee,, rraa TTqqmmaa uunnddaa,, vveexxmmaarree-
bbii mmaaTT,, rraacc SSeemmiiZZlliiaa......~~
samma welma ganvlo, magram
sruliad moulodnelad, kidev
sami wliT gauxangrZlives gada-
saxleba. `̀wwaammeebbiiss xxaannggrrZZlliivv ggzzaass
ssaamm-ssaammwwlliiaannii ssiiCCqqaarriiTT ggaavvddiivvaa-
rroo~~, _ swored am periodze am-
bobda igi mogvianebiT.
metis gaZleba aRar SeeZlo,
TanamoaazreebTan erTad TurqeT-
Si gaqceva gadawyvita, megzuric
iSoves da roca egonaT, samSvi-
dobos iyvnen gasuli _ mdinare
Woroxis gadacurvisas, swored
maSin aRmoCndnen `Cekas~ tyveoba-
Si... Turme TviTon gamyolma gas-
ca...
`̀RRiirrsseeuullii mmaammuulliiSSvviilleebbii
ggvviinnddooddaa vvyyooffiilliiyyaavviiTT,, ssaammSSoobb-
llooSSii aammiiss ssaaSSuuaalleebbaa `̀CCeekkaamm~~ yyoo-
vveellmmxxrriivv ddaaggvviixxSSoo,, rrooggoorr mmoo-
vviiqqcceeTT SSeemmddggoommSSii,, aarr vviicciiTT~~,, _
werda levani ojaxs gaqcevamde
cota xniT adre.
daapatimres, isev samSoblos
moRalated monaTles da Tbili-
sis cixeSi droebiT gamoamwyvdi-
es; maleve 5 wliT cimbirSi ga-
daasaxles...
xxaannmmookkllee
ddaabbrruunneebbaa oojjaaxxSSii
...TbilisSi goTuebis saxls
dilaadrian viRac miadga da mo-
ridebiT daakakuna. aseTi kaku-
niT mravaljer aforiaqebul
ojaxs kidev erTxel gadauqandaT
guli... kari gaaRes... saxlSi Se-
vida axovani da xuWuWTmiani ka-
ci, romelic namdvil asakTan Se-
darebiT ufro asakovnad gamoiyu-
reboda. levan goTua daubrunda
sakuTar ojaxs, magram mSvidi
cxovreba mainc ar aRirses.
misjili srulad moixada,
magram bolSevikebis iarliyi
TiTqos samudamo daRad daaCnda
mis biografias. TbilisSi Camo-
suls pasporti dagvianebiT mis-
ces, mere Cawerazec uari ga-
nucxades, metic _ 24 saaTSi de-
daqalaqis datoveba ubrZanes, wi-
naaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi isev gada-
saxlebiT daemuqrnen. sxva raRa
darCenoda, Tavdapirvelad walka-
Si dasaxlda, Semdeg ki axlan-
del bolnisSi, romelsac imxanad
luqsemburgi erqva. swored `sa-
qarTveloSi gadasaxlebis~ wleb-
Si daamTavra ori didi drama _
`CaZiruli sofeli~ da `mefe
erekle~. mogvianebiT, levani am
periods literaturuli aRmav-
lobis periodad afasebda.
1938 wels, rogorc iqna,
TbilisSi Caweris nebarTva gaime-
tes, magram Tavisuflebas mainc
ver eWirsa. es arc iyo gasakviri,
radgan sisxliani 37 weli kudis
moqnevas lamobda _ miuCines ja-
SuSebi, romlebic SeuniRbavad
dahyvebodnen TiTqmis yvelgan.
levanma literaturul saqmiano-
bas mohkida xeli, dros ZiriTa-
dad Teatrebsa da biblioTekebSi
atarebda. biblioTekaSi muSaobi-
sas sagangebod magidaze tovebda
Canawerebs, rom `zemoT~ scodno-
daT, raze muSaobda da eWvi gah-
fantvodaT. miuxedavad amisa, ma-
inc yoveldRe akiTxavdnen saxl-
Si, mwerlis CanawerebSi iqeqe-
bodnen, levanis moralurad ga-
texvas cdilobdnen... miuxedavad
aseTi daZabuli viTarebisa, es
wlebi SemoqmedebiTad mainc nayo-
fieri gamodga. am dros Seiqmna
`daviT aRmaSenebeli~, TeatrSi
idgmeboda misi piesebi `mefe
erekle~, `uZlevelni~, `sami pa-
tarZali~...
`̀ssaammSSoobbllooss
mmooRRaallaattiiss~~
vvoorrkkuuttuullii eeppooppeeaa
1946 wels gadawyvita, Tbi-
liss gascloda da mesxeT-java-
xeTisken gaswia, miT umetes, rom
istoruli romanis dasawerad em-
zadeboda da masalas agrovebda.
`̀vvaarrZZiiiiss xxiillvviiTT gguullii rroomm
vviijjeerree,, mmeerree aassppiinnZZiiss nnaabbrrZZoolleebb
aaddggiilleebbss ggaavvuuaarree...... ssaaiiTTaacc gguullmmaa
ggaammiiwwiiaa,, iiqqiiTT wwaavveeddii.. mmaarrttoo xxeettii-
aallSSii ddaavviiRRaallee ddaa SSeemmoommaaRRaammddaa
kkiiddeecc...... ssaaddaacc ddaammiiRRaammddaa,, iiqqvvee mmiivv-
wweeqqii.. ddiillaass xxeerrTTvviissiiss cciixxiisskkeenn
ggaavvwwiiee.. kkeeTTiillii ggaannwwyyoobbiiTT ggaallaa-
RReebbuullmmaa,, uueeccrraadd mmttkkvvrriiss ggaaRRmmaa
rraaRRaacc mmaannqqaannaass mmoovvkkaarrii TTvvaallii..
SSiigg rraattoommRRaacc jjaaSSuuSSii SSeevviiccaannii..
gguullSSii eellddaamm ggaammkkrraa......~~
winaTgrZnoba utyuari gamod-
ga _ daakaves, marTalia, zurgCan-
TaSi `vefxistyaosnis~ garda ve-
varami da gansacdeli levan goTuasi
`bibliuri kkacis~ TTavgadasavali
21saerTo gazeTi#34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.
raferi upoves, magram levans anti-
sabWoTa dajgufebis SeqmnaSi mainc
dasdes brali, samSoblos Ralatisa
da propaganda-agitaciis gziT ssrk-
is damxobis mcdelobaSi dasdes bra-
li da megobrebTan erTad cimbiris
gzas gauyenes. `gamousworebel,
mZlavr politikuri moRvawes~ Tav-
dapirveli ganaCeni _ daxvreta aTw-
liani sasjeliT, gamasworebel banak-
Si gadasaxlebiT Seucvales. solov-
kis, narimis, biiskis banakebis Semdeg,
axla ukve vorkutaSi, CrdiloeT yi-
nulovan okeanesTan axlos mdebare
qvanaxSiris sabadoSi gaamweses...
gadasaxlebis win ojaxs swerda:
`̀CCeemmoo kkaarrggeebboo!! CCeemmii bbeeddii ddaa ccxxoovv-
rreebbiiss bboorrbbaallii iisseevv uukkuuRRmmaa ddaattrrii-
aallddaa.. iisseevv SSoorreeuullii mmxxaarree ddaa mmaarr-
ttoooobbaa,, TTiiTTqqooss ggaannggeebbaass SSeemmoowweerriillii
mmaaqqvvss.. rraa vvqqnnaa,, rraa ggzzaass ddaavvaaddggee,, vveerraa-
ffeerrii vveerr SSeevvZZeellii.. rraacc aarriiss,, aarriiss......
iisseeTT ssaaSSiinneell ggaarreemmooccvvaaSSii vvaarrTT,, ssaa-
ddaacc ssiimmaarrTTllee aarr ffaassoobbss!!....~~
`̀CCeemmii nnaawweerreebbii ddaa CCeemmii ggmmiirreebbii
yyoovveellTTvviiss CCeemmzzee bbeeddnniieerreebbii iiyyvvnneenn......
aarr mmSSuurrss!! aasseeTTiiaa bbeeddiiss SSeeuuvvaalloobbaa~~,,
_ swerda axloblebs cimbiridan,
rogorc Tavad uwodebda, `nadirebiT
savse bunagidan~ gamogzavnil weril-
Si...
`̀ggmmiirrTTaa vvaarraammiiss~~
ffaaTTeerraakkiiaannii
TTaavvggaaddaassaavvaallii
iq, im gausaZlis pirobebSi
levans mwerlobisTvis Tavi ar
daunebebia. swored iq dawera
piesa `samsaxeoba raindisa~ da
daiwyo kaxTa mefe aleqsandr
meoreze didi epopeis Seqmna. ma-
RaroSi, sadac is maRali Zabvis
sadgurSi eleqtrikosad muSa-
obda, samalavi moiwyo da nawe-
rebs iq malavda. `̀mmaaRRaallii ZZaabbvviiss
ssaattrraannssffoorrmmaattoorroo ssaaddgguurriiss
kkaarrss mmiiaammaaggrraa ffiirrffiittaa wwaarrwwee-
rriiTT __ `̀ssaassiikkvvddiillooaa!!~~ aabbaa,, rroo-
mmeellii zzeeddaammxxeeddvveellii ggaabbeeddaavvddaa iiqq
SSeessvvllaass!! lleevvaannii TTaavvaauuRReebbllaadd
mmuuSSaaoobbddaa,, ttrraannssffoorrmmaattoorriiss
kkeeddlliiss ggvveerrddiiTT aammooTTxxrriill oorr-
mmooSSii CCaawwoolliillii,, ssaannTTlliiss SSuuqq-
zzee...... aassee iiqqmmnneebbooddaa qqaarrTTuullii
pprroozziiss mmSSvveenneebbaa......~~ xelnawerebs
iqaur qarTvel megobrebs
ukiTxavda da swored es megob-
rebi gaxdnen kidec am romanis
naTliebi _ maT daarqves wigns
`gmirTa varami~, xolo mis av-
tors `levan beri~ uwodes.
saintereso da saocaria am wig-
nis Tbilisamde mogzauroba. banaki-
dan nawerebis gamotana did risks
ukavSirdeboda, magram qarTvelebma
aseTi ram moifiqres: banakis teri-
toriaze morebs guls uRebdnen,
maTSi nawerebs awyobdnen da isev sa-
guldagulod gmanavdnen. qalaqSi ga-
tanil morebs patimrobamoxdili,
Tumca mainc iq mcxovrebi valiko
WumburiZe yidulobda... ase furcel-
furcel Seagroves da gaTavisufle-
bul erT qarTvel gadasaxlebuls
saqarTveloSi gamoatanes...
vorkutaSi gaicno levanma so-
lomon gerSovi, romelsac lado gu-
diaSvili `Tanamedroveobis udides
mxatvars~ uwodebda, xolo mark Sa-
gali `xelovnebaSi simarTlis maZie-
bel mxatvrad~ aRiarebda. swored
levanma gaacno mas qarTuli xelov-
nebis istoria, qarTuli literatu-
ra, `daaavada~ saqarTveloTi. ukiJi-
nebda kidec, `mouTmenlad veli
Tqvens qarTul talRaso~, rac pir-
naTlad Seasrula mxatvarma _ mis
SemoqmedbaSi qarTul motivebs gan-
sakuTrebuli adgili ekava...
stalinis gardacvalebis Semdeg
CrdiloeTis banakebSi rusulma So-
vinizmma imZlavra da gadasaxlebul-
Ta isedac mZime yofa kidev ufro
daamZima. am axal kampanias iolad
ver Seeguebodnen banakebis binadarni
da gaificnen, ramac kidev ufro da-
amZima maTi mdgomareoba _ gaficvis
organizatorebi daapatimres, karce-
rebSi gamoamwyvdies... miuxedavad ami-
sa, 1955 wlis zafxulSi kvlav gai-
ficnen iqauri banakebi da am gafic-
vam iseTi masStabi miiRo, rom vor-
kutaSi sabWoTa kavSiris generalu-
ri prokurori rudenkic ki Cavida
did komisiasTan erTad patimarTa
saqmeebis gansaxilvelad. es procesi
gaWianurda da moTminebadakargulma
levanma, romelmac ar icoda, rodis
mouwevda rigi, komisiis oTaxSi Za-
liT SeaRwia. mTavar prokurorTan
laparakma 2 saaTze met xans gasta-
na. Cven mxolod SegviZlia vivarau-
doT, raze SeiZleboda esaubraT
maT... dabejiTebiT mxolod imis Tqma
SeiZleba, rom centridan movlenil-
ma didmoxelem levan goTuas gaTavi-
suflebas maSinve moawera xeli.
`̀nneebbaayyoofflloobbiiTTii
ppaattiimmrroobbaa~~
banakis araadamianur pirobebs
TavdaRweuli xalxi cdilobda cixi-
dan gaRwevas, levani ki sul sxvag-
varad moiqca:
`̀ggaauuggoonnaarrii,, ggmmiirroobbiiss ttoollffaassii
nnaabbiijjii ggaaddaaddggaa!! mmaann cciixxiiss aaddmmiinniisstt-
rraacciiaass ggaannuuccxxaaddaa,, rroomm ssaassjjeelliiss vvaa-
ddiiss ddaammTTaavvrreebbiiss SSeemmddeeggaacc kkvvllaavv rrCCee-
bbooddaa bbaannaakkSSii,, vviiddrree ssaammSSoobbllooSSii ddaabb-
rruunneebbiiss nneebbaarrTTvvaass aarr mmiisscceemmddnneenn.. llee-
vvaanniiss aamm nnaabbiijjmmaa bbaannaakkiiss aaddmmiinniissttrraa-
cciiiiss ggaakkvviirrvveebbaa,, ddaabbnneeuulloobbaa ddaa ssaaeerr-
TToodd __ ssaaooccaarrii aaJJiioottaaJJii ggaammooiiwwvviiaa......
nneebbaayyoofflloobbiiTTii ppaattiimmrroobbaa rraammddeenniimmee
TTvveess ggaaggrrZZeellddaa......~~
levan goTuasTvis Tavisuflebas
fasi ekargeboda, Tuki saqarTveloSi
dabrunebis nebarTvas ar miscemdnen.
`̀ppaattiimmrreebbii,, zzeeddaammxxeeddvveelleebbii ddaa
uuffrroosseebbii ggaakkvviirrvveebbuulleebbii ddaa SSeewwuuxxee-
bbuulleebbii SSeemmoommccqqeerriiaann,, CCeemmss jjiiuuttoobbaass
WWkkuuaazzee SSeeSSllaass aabbrraalleebbeenn...... `̀lleevvaannii
iissee mmiiaaCCvviieess aamm ccxxoovvrreebbaass,, rroomm TTaavvii-
ssuuffllaadd uukkvvee vveeRRaarr iiccooccxxlleebbssoo~~ __
iirroonniiiiTT aammbboobbeenn iissiinnii.. CCeemmss ttrraaggiikkoo-
mmeeddiiaass ddaasscciinniiaann.. aasseeTTii rraamm bbaannaakkiiss
ppiirroobbeebbSSii aarr mmoommxxddaarraaoo.. ddaappaattiimmrree-
bbiiss kkaannoonnii ddiiddii aassooeebbiiTTaaaa ddaawweerriillii,,
ssaappaattiimmrrooddaann ppaattiimmrriiss ZZaalliiTT ggaaggddee-
bbiiss kkaannoonnii kkii aarr aarrsseebboobbss.. ppaattiimmaarrii
ssiixxaarruulliiTT,, TTvviiTTSSeeggnneebbiiTT,, TTvviiTTnneebbuu-
rraadd uunnddaa wwaavviiddeess ggaannTTaavviissuufflleebbiiss
SSeemmddeegg.. aaqqaacc aassee xxddeebbaa.. mmee SSeevvccvvaallee
yyvveellaaffeerrii...... CCrrddiillooeellii qqaarrTTvveelleebbii
mmeexxvveewweebbooddnneenn ddaa mmaarrwwmmuunneebbddnneenn __ zzee-
ddaammxxeeddvveelleebbiiss,, ZZaaRRlleebbiiss,, nnoommrriiss,,
iiZZuulleebbiiTTii SSrroommiissaa ddaa ddaacciinnvviiss ggaa-
rreeSSee...... uuffrroo mmeettss ddaawweerr,, SSeennss mmwweerr-
lloobbaass ggaaaaRRrrmmaavveebboo.. mmee ggaavvjjiiuuttddii.. eess
xxoomm CCeemmii ssaammuuddaammoodd ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss,,
TTbbiilliissiiss ddaa TTqqvveenn ggaarreeSSee aarrsseebboobbaa
iiqqnneebbaa ddaa aarraa ccxxoovvrreebbaa,, rroommeelliicc
vvggrrZZnnoobb,, TTaannddaaTTaann iiffeerrfflleebbaa......~~
ddaabbrruunneebbaa
1955 wlis agvistoSi jojoxeT-
gamovlili levan goTua saqarTve-
loSi dabrunda. maleve daiwyo im
adamianTaA sasamarTlo procesebi,
romelTa wyalobiTac mas 22 wlis
cixe da gadasaxleba ergo. roca sam-
cxe-javaxeTSi daiWires da cimbirSi
gadasaxleba miusajes, levanma jala-
Tebs mtarvalebi uwoda da TiTqos
wianaswarmetyvelurad SeuZaxa _
aucileblad dadgeba dro, roca sab-
raldebo skamze Tqven TviTonve aR-
moCndebiTo... es dro dadga, rafavas
da misTanebis sasamarTlo procesze
miiwvies kidec levan goTua, magram
sasamarTloSi mowmed gamocxadebaze
uari ganacxda, aqaurobas gaerida da
myinvarwverisken, beTlemis mRvimis-
ken gaswia axalgazrda Tanamoazreeb-
Tan erTad. saqarTvelos mTebSi sia-
ruli did Svebas gvrida...
gadasaxlebidan dabrunebis Sem-
deg sul 17 weliwadi icocxla, ma-
leve dasaxlda armazSi, sadac si-
cocxlis darCenili 10 weliwadi
gaatara. Zalian uyvarda iqauroba.
levanis da Tamari ixsenebda:
`̀yyoovveell SSeemmooddggoommaazzee,, rrooddeessaacc iiqq
vviiyyaavviiTT,, ddiilliiTT TTaavvzzee ddaaggvvaaddggeebbooddaa
ddaa ddaaggvvZZaaxxeebbddaa:: `̀eehheehheeii,, ggaaiiRRvviiZZeeTT,,
SSeexxeeddeeTT~~ ddaa ggvvaaCCvveenneebbddaa SSiioo mmRRvviimmiiss
nnaakkrrZZaalliiddaann mmttkkvvrriiss nnaappiirrzzee CCaammoo-
ssuull iirrmmeebbss.. mmddiinnaarreeSSii ccuurraavvddaa,, TTeevv-
zzaaoobbddaa.. CCvveennii ssaaxxlliiss mmooppiirrddaappiirree
mmxxaarreess,, mmddiinnaarriiss ggaaddaaRRmmaa iiyyoo
bbaarrggiiyyaarriiaass mmTTaa ((ggaaddmmoocceemmiiTT aaqq
wwiinnaaTT ggzzaa yyooffiillaa.. aamm aaddggiillaass
TTuurrmmee zzeeddmmeett bbaarrggss yyrriiddnneenn..
aammiittoomm hhqqvviiaa aasseeTTii ssaaxxeellii))..
lleevvaannmmaa ddaaiiwwyyoo iiqq ggaammooqqvvaabbuu-
lliiss ggaammooTTxxrraa iisseeTTii CCaannaaffiiqq-
rriiTT,, rroomm uuZZvveelleessii xxeellnnaawweerree-
bbiiss mmuuzzeeuummii ggaaeekkeeTTeebbiinnaa.. aamm ggaa-
mmooqqvvaabbuulliissaakkeenn CCvveennii ssaaxxlliiss
mmxxrriiddaann ssaaccaallffeexxoo xxiiddii uunnddaa
ggaaddaaeeggddoo.. uuddiiddeessii eennTTuuzziiaazz-
mmiiTT aaggrroovveebbddaa xxeellnnaawweerreebbss,,
ggaammooqqvvaabbuullss ssaakkuuTTaarrii xxeelliiTT
TTxxrriiddaa,, xxiiddiiss ppaallooeebbiicc mmooii-
ttaanneess ddaa ddaaaassvveess.. lleevvaannss aallppii-
nniizzmmii iittaacceebbddaa,, bbeevvrrii mmwwvveerrvvaa-
llii ddaaiippyyrroo,, mmTTeellii ssaaqqaarrTTvvee-
lloo ffeexxiiTT hhqqoonnddaa SSeemmoovvlliillii,,
uussaaxxeelloo qqvvaabbuulleebbii ddaa cciixxee-
kkooSSkkeebbii aaRRmmooCCeenniillii.. aarrmmaazziiss
xxeeoobbaa xxoomm xxuuTTii TTiiTTiivviiTT iiccoo-
ddaa.. mmaarrttoo kkii aarr ddaaddiiooddaa,,
CCvveenncc aaggvviikkiiddeebbddaa...... aammddeennii ttaann-
jjvvaa-wwvvaalleebbiiss SSeemmddeegg TTaavvii zzRRaa-
ppaarrSSii ggvveeggoonnaa.. mmoovviiddaa aaRRiiaarreebbaa,,
mmaatteerriiaalluurraaddaacc ggaavviimmaarrTTeeTT..
TTiiTTqqmmiiss yyoovveellTTvviiss kkaarrgg xxaassiiaaTTzzee
iiyyoo.. ZZaalliiaann gguulluuxxvvii iiyyoo CCvveenn mmii-
mmaarrTT,, ggvvaanneebbiivvrreebbddaa,, TTiiTTqqooss uunnddooddaa
ggaaddaattaanniillii ggaaWWiirrvveebbaa aaeennaazzRRaauurreebbiinnaa..
vviizzeeddaacc xxeellii mmiiuuwwvvddeebbooddaa,, yyvveellaass
eexxmmaarreebbooddaa –– eessaaxxeelleebbooddaa ddaa uuxxaarroo-
ddaa~~..
aaRRssaassrruullii
1973 wels 67 wlisa gardaicva-
la _ avma senma Seutia, tkivilebs
usityvod itanda, mkurnalobaze
uari ganacxada...
`̀mmaass aarr uuZZeebbnniiaa wwiinnaappaarrTTaa ssaaxxeell-
ggaannTTqqmmuullii ssaavvaannee ddaa ZZvvaallTTSSeessaallaaggii..
iiggii aarrmmaazzSSii,, ssaakkuuTTaarr eezzoossaa ddaa SSeemmoo-
ggaarreennSSii CCaawwvvaa.. aaRRmmoossaavvlleeTTiiddaann mmccxxee-
TTaa eegguullvviiss ddaarraajjaadd,, ddaassaavvlleeTTiiddaann
__ ZZeeggvviiss xxeevvii ddaa cciixxee ddiiddii.. ssaarrkkiinnee-
TTiiss mmTTeebbii ddaa mmoodduudduunnee mmttkkvvaarriicc aaxx-
llooaa.. mmiissggaann aarrccTTuu ZZaalliiaann SSoorrssaaaa
TTvviiTToonn qqaarrTTlloossiissaa ddaa ffaarrnnaavvaazziiss
ssaaffllaavveebbii...... iiqqvveeaa qqaarrTTlloossiiss cciixxee,,
aarraassooddeess SSeemmuussvvrriillii mmtteerrTTaaggaann......
aassee rroomm,, iiggii iisseevv TTaavviiss ggmmiirreebbTTaannaaaa,,
aarr mmooiiwwyyeennss ddaa CCvveennzzee ssaayyvveedduurrii aarr
ddaassccddeebbaa~~..
2005 wels uwmindesisa da une-
taresis, saqarTvelos kaTolikos-
patriarqis ilia meoris kurTxeviT,
levan goTuas _ `bibliuri kacis~,
`levan wamebulis~, `WabukiviT dauR-
leli kacis~, `keTilSobili mamu-
liSvilis~ neSti mcxeTaSi, samTav-
ros dedaTaA monastris ezoSi dakr-
Zales.
gulbaaT WavWavaZe
namdvilad didi gamarjveba moipova dRes
‘’qarTulma ocnebam’’ baTumSi. daaxloebiT, 65
aTasi adamiani miesalma baton biZinas. batonma
biZinam Zalian Tbili, magram principuli sity-
va Tqva. sagulisxmo iyo, rom miuxedavad Zlieri da xan-
grZlivi wvimisa, xalxma Sexvedra ar datova, bravo, aWa-
ra, me mgonia, aWaram yvelas ajoba.
riT gansxvavdeba salonikSi Catarebuli 200-ka-
ciani aqcia saqarTveloSi Catarebuli 2000-is-
gan. dResac daboginobdnen garSemo nac-Spionebi,
magram veranairi eqscesi ver gabedes. saqarTve-
loSi ki 2000 kacsac uwyoben provokacias, vinaidan maT
zurgs xelisufleba da policia umagrebs. ai, ras niS-
navs, rodesac qveyanaSi policia mxolod kanons emsaxu-
reba, rom vinme mosuliyo da daewyo areva aqciis, salo-
nikis policia daicavda Cven uflebebs. gesmiT xalxo?
qarTvelebis Tavisufal sityvas ucxoeTSi ufro icavs
policia, vidre sakuTar qveyanaSi.
didi xania, ar mitiria ... sixarulisgan... siyva-
rulisgan... miyvarxarT, goniero, lamazo, brZe-
no, stumarTmoyvare, gmiro aWarav da sruliad
saqarTvelos maspinZelo - b-no biZinav!!! es iyo
ulamazesi, usayvarlesi da umSvenieresi aqcia uZlieresi
gamosvlebiT - dawyebuli b-ni biZinaTi da Semdeg q-ni me-
deas, ZnelaZis, zaza papuaSvilisa da axalgazrda sulxan
Rlontis!!! yvela Taoba erTad!!! win - gamarjvebisken!!!
dampali araferi varga da miT umetes qveynis
mmarTveloba!!!!! 2 TveSi morCeba gaxrwnili da
Caoxrebuli wiTeli reJimi!
2001 wels, rom vambobdi giJia-Tqo, Cemze am-
bobdnen _ afrenso, ahaaaaa.... axla ki meubnebian:
ratom xeli ar mogvtyda, 5 rom movxazeTo ma-
Sino, magram ara uSavs codvis gamosyidvis dRe
1 oqtomberia!
mapatios Cemma Tbilisma, magram masStabiT ba-
Tumma yvela qalaqs ajobaaa!!! xalxo, dRes iyo
zeimi erTobis, siyvarulis, gamarjvebis da sa-
qarTvelos gabrwyinebis!!! guSindeli dRis mere
cota SeSinebuli viyavi, magram xalxi ufro darazma gu-
Sindelma dRem! skeptikosebo, SecvaleT Tqveni azrebi da
icodeT, gamarjvebamde 55 dRe darCa!!!!
guSin Cemi Svili 12 wlis gaxda da dabadebis
dRis tortze sanTlebis Caqrobisas survili
Caifiqra, da bolos gamogvityda ,,,,,iciT, ra Ca-
vifiqreo? is rom ivaniSvilma moigos arCevne-
bio,, amaze meti ubedureba raRaa, roca iseTi qveyana
gvavs, sadac 12 wlis bavSvic politizirebulia:((((Rmer-
To, Sen agvixdine yvelas es ocneba oqtomberSi!!!!!
levan varSalomiZe, Raribi da mowyenili yofi-
la Turme, Jriamulas TqmiT! amazrzenia da gu-
lisamrevi xelisuflebis sateliti televizie-
bis mier gavrcelebuli dezinformaciebi! nuTu,
dakargeT realobis aRqmis unari, axlac ver xedavT ra
xdeba garSemo, ras fiqrobs xalxi, an ra unda, an ras
iTxovs?! nacmo, yvelaze magari rCeva SemiZlia mogceT,
SeigrZeniT samSoblos siyvaruli ise rogorc Cven
vgrZnobT, SegrZeniT mamuli, ise rogorc b–ni biZina iva-
niSvili grZnobs, pasuxsac advilad miiRebT da WeSmari-
tebasac CaswvdebiT!!! amis mere gaigebT mxolod, ra aris
mTavari, adamianis cxovrebaSi!!! modiT azrze, iqneb jer
kidev gviani ar aris....
xalxis azriT
SemogvierTdi facebook-zze
`saerTo ggazeTi~
22 saerTo gazeTi #34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.
xalxSi kargad nacnobi wel-
kavis samedicino saxelwodebebi
_ lumbago, gava-welis mwvave
radikulitia. igi lokalurad
welis areSi gaCenili uecari,
mkveTri tkivilis Setevaa, ro-
melsac Tan welis kunTebis da-
Wimvac daerTvis.
welkavi umetesad sxeulis
erTdroulad win gadaxrisa da
gverdze Semotrialebisas vlin-
deba. sxeulis moxrili mdgoma-
reobidan erTdroulad gaSla
da misi gverdiT mitrialeba
xerxemlis qveda segmentisTvis
Zalian didi datvirTvaa, swo-
red amitom welkavis klasikuri
gamomwvevi situacia _ Tovlis
wmenda da gamogvaa.
lumbago gvxvdeba rogorc
axalgazrda, ise saSualo da
xandazmuli asakis adamianebSi,
Tumca yvelaze xSirad igi mainc
mamakacebis problemaa, romle-
bic, Cveulebriv, intensiuri fi-
zikuri Sromis Semdeg veRar
iSlebian welSi.
welkavs xSirad aprovoci-
rebs sxeulis gadaxureba, tanis
gaoflianeba da Semdeg misi
swrafi gaciveba.
Setevis dros adamiani mZime
mdgomareobaSi vardeba, gaSeSe-
buli rCeba iZulebiT pozaSi,
radgan ganZrevisa da moZraobis
nebismieri umniSvnelo mcdelo-
bac ki, daxveleba, dacemineba,
welis kunTebis spazmsa da tki-
vils kidev ufro aZlierebs.
welkavis Setevisas mwvave
tkivili ramdenime wuTidan ram-
denime saaTamde grZeldeba, nak-
leb intensiuri tkivilebi ki
ZiriTadad moZraobas ukavSir-
deba da saSualod 1-2 kviramde
grZeldeba.
xdeba isec, rom Setevidan
ramdenime xanSi tkivili Tavis-
Tavad qreba iseve swrafad, ro-
gorc gaCnda. am dros, rogorc
pacientebi aRniSnaven, iseTi
SegrZnebaa, `TiTqos welSi ra-
Raca Tavis adgilze Cadga~.
rogor moviqceT uecrad
gaCenili welkavisas
* mTavari wamali _ simSvi-
de da woliTi reJimia. nu Seec-
debiT tkivilis Tmenas da TviT-
neburad welSi gasworebas,
aucilebelia ramdenime dRis
manZilze woliTi reJimi;
* moZebneT poza, romelSic
tkivili odnav mainc giklebT
da zurgis muskulaturac mogi-
dundebaT. mizanSewonilia paci-
enti iwves zurgze, odnav aweu-
li da moRunuli fexebiT. amis-
Tvis mas muxlqveS baliSi unda
daudoT. aseTi poza xerxemals
msxvili kunTebis modunebis sa-
Sualebas aZlevs.
Tu pacientisTvis mucelze
wola metad komfortulia, Se-
uZlia asec dawves, zogjer mo-
xerxebulia gverdze wola;
* pacienti unda daawvinoT
magar da myar sawolze, farTo
xis naWerze an sulac iatakze
da weli Tbilad SeuxvioT. am
periodSi yvelaze Cveulebrivi
leibic ki orTopediulad iqce-
va, Tu mas magar, brtyel fi-
carze daafenT;
* rekomendebulia mtkivan
adgilze yinulis dadebac,
oRond mxolod Setevis pir-
vel wuTebSi;
* miiReT tkivildamayuCe-
beli (anTebissawinaaRmdego
arasteroiduli) medikamen-
ti, Tumca, konkretul Sem-
TxvevaSi, SesaZlo gverdiTi
movlenebis Tavidan asaci-
leblad, sasurvelia eqimis
konsultacia.
* TviTneburad nu dai-
zelT mtkivneul adgils ma-
lamoebiT, gansakuTrebiT
iseTebiT, romlebic kans
wvavs, radgan man SesaZloa,
tkivili kidev ufro gaaZlie-
ros.
dasaSvebia mtkivani adgilis
aryiT an spirtiT dazelva, ase-
ve iodis badeebic;
* xSirad, Sin aRmoCenili
pirveladi daxmarebis Semdeg,
roca analgetikebis moqmedebiT
tkivili qreba, pacientebi kli-
nikaSi misvlas an ar Cqaroben,
an saerTod aRar fiqroben, ris
gamoc procesi rTuldeba da
mkurnalobac gacilebiT xangrZ-
livdeba.
* bevri pacienti welSi ga-
iSleba Tu ara da tkivilic ga-
uvlis, fiqrobs, ukve ganikurna.
es mcdari Sexedulebaa. yvela-
feri welkavis pirveli Setevis
Semdeg iwyeba _ xerxemali gan-
sakuTrebul movlas iTxovs, am-
isTvis ki damatebiTi procedu-
rebis Catarebaa saWiro;
* aucilebelia nevrologis
an neiroqirurgis konsultacia
samedicino dawesebulebaSi, ra-
Ta mas aRmouCinon kvalificiu-
ri daxmareba, da rac mTavaria,
Cautardes Sesabamisi gamokvle-
vebi SesaZlo mizezis gamosark-
vevad.
rogor vicxovroT,
rom welkavma
arasdros Segvawuxos
1. Sin an samsaxurSi kompiu-
terTan muSaobisas, ecadeT spe-
cialurad Seqmnil saofise sk-
amze ijdeT, romlebic xerxe-
mals ramdenadme gantvirTvis
saSualebas aZlevs.
2. televizoris yurebisas
sjobs, upiratesoba naxevradm-
woliare tipis savarZels miani-
WoT;
3. mniSvnelovania avtomo-
bilSi mZRolis skamis sworad
SerCevac, radgan mZRolis
mouxerxebeli jdoma oste-
oqondrozis garTulebis
erT-erTi mTavari faqto-
ria;
4. xangrZlivi jdomiTi
samuSaos Sesrulebisas pe-
riodulad Sesveneba da
`gavla-gamovla~ unda Caa-
nacvloT;
5. xerxemalTan dakavSi-
rebuli problemebis mqone-
ebs vurCevT, naklebad
iaron maRalquslebiani
fexsacmelebiT;
6. nebismieri simZime un-
da aswioT nela, TandaTan,
tvirTis awevisas jer mux-
lebSi unda moixaroT da Semdeg
nela gaswordeT;
7. gaakontroleT wonac, ra-
dgan xerxemlis erT-erTi mteri
Warbi wonac aris;
9. xerxemlis mTavari mteri
ki umoZraobaa. amitom welkavis
ZiriTadi profilaqtika fizku-
lturaa, sasurvelia meti moZ-
raoba, curva.
10. sirbilis dros xSiria
xerxemlis diskebis mikrotrav-
matizacia, amitom sirbilisas
sifrTxile gmarTebT.
saTvale mudam karg mdgoma-
reobaSi rom iyos, aucilebe-
lia, maT gansazRvruli wesebis
mixedviT moepyroT:
1. saTvale unda gaikeToT da
moixsnaT orive xeliT, amasTan,
rogorc moxnisas, ise gakeTebi-
sas is sayure nawiliT unda ge-
WiroT;
2. nu SeecdebiT saTvalis
CarCo TviTneburad daapataraoT
an gaadidoT;
3. nurasodes dadebT mas
linzebiT qveviT, saTvale nebis-
mier zedapirze unda sayure na-
wiliT daidos an Semdeg Seina-
xoT specialur futlarSi;
4. mogexsenebaT, rom CarCo-
sa da linzebs Soris uwvrile-
si RriWoa, romelSic yovelT-
vis grovdeba WuWyi, amitom
saTvalis es nawili unda gaw-
mindoT kbilis ja-
grisiT an gare-
cxoT Tbil, sapni-
an wyalSi;
5. Tu Tqven
plastmasis linze-
biani saTvale
gaqvT, mniSvneloba
ar aqvs, is xazvis-
gan damcavlinzebi-
ania Tu Cveulebri-
vi, WuWyis mocile-
ba da gawmenda ma-
Tac sWirdeba.
plastmasis li-
nzebiani saTvale
rbili qsoviliT
unda gawmindoT,
manamde ki sasurve-
lia, isini Tbili
wyliT garecxoT.
Tu iseT adgilas
mogiwiaT yofnam,
sadac axlo-maxlo
wyali arsad aris, maSin ajo-
bebs, gawmendisgan Tavi Seika-
voT, ubralod, suli SeubereT
da mtveri ise moaSoreT;
6. saTvalis SerCevisas gan-
sakuTrebul yuradRebas saWi-
roebs misi erTi detail _ es
aris saTvalis cxvirze dasayr-
deni nawilis masala da moZra-
oba, radgan uxeSi sayrdenebi
Zlier awveba cxvirs.
sasurvelia, CarCo rbili,
silikonisgan damzadebuli, moZ-
ravi sayrdenebiT SearCioT.
yuradReba unda mieqces sa-
yuresac, is ar unda awvebodes
safeTqelsa da yuris ukana ar-
es.
7. CarCos gatexvisas, nu Se-
akeTebT mas TviTneburad, dis-
komfortisa da mxedvelobis
darRvevis Tavidan asacileblad
mas aucileblad unda daubru-
noT sawyisi mdgomareoba. amas
mxolod specialisti SeZlebs
kvalificiurad.
kompiuteris saTvale
kompiuteris specialuri
damcavi saTvalec iseve WuWyian-
deba da imtvereba rogorc sxva
danarCenebi.
kompiuteris saTvales odnav
gansxvavebulad unda mouaroT,
radgan maTi linzebi dafarulia
specialuri damcavi feniT, rom-
lis mocilebis SemTxvevaSic,
mas Tvalebis dacvis unari
ekargeba.
garda amisa, aseTi saTvalis
mflobelma, unda icodes maTi
xmarebis zusti wesebi da ag-
reTve eqspluataciis vada.
daviwyoT imiT, rom moxmare-
bis Semdeg kompiuteris saTva-
le aucileblad unda SeaxvioT
sufTa rbil qsovilSi da ise
SeinaxoT futlarSi. gamoyene-
bis win ki an imave qsoviliT
gawmindeT, an SeubereT. kompiu-
teris saTvale mxolod mtvris
mocilebis Semdeg unda gawmin-
doT.
gansakuTrebulia maTi ga-
recxvis wesic: Tu Cveulebrivi
saTvalis linzebi mSvenivrad
irecxeba Tbil sapnian wyalSi,
arafriT SeiZleba kompiuteris
saTvalis Tbil, miT ufro,
cxel wyalSi garecxva; rogorc
Tbili, ise cxe-
li wyali Zlier
azianebs saTva-
lis damcav fe-
nas, amitom aseTi
saTvalebi mxo-
lod da mxolod
civ wyalSi
irecxeba;
wesebis dac-
viT movlili
saTvale sakmaod
didxans Zlebs,
magram sakmari-
sia, raime mize-
ziT misi linze-
bi daziandes,
rom is kargavs
daniSnulebas da
misi gamoyeneba
araTu sasargeb-
lo, TvalisaTvis
sazianoc ki xde-
ba. amitom dazia-
nebuli saTvale
daunaneblad unda moiciloT
Tavidan da axali SeiZinoT.
wylis saTvale
Tu Tqven moyvaruli brZan-
debiT da sacurao auzebs ara-
regularulad stumrobT, 2-5-
jer TveSi, maSin TqvenTvis sav-
sebiT sakmarisia e.w. moyvarul-
Ta saTvale, romelic iseTi
formisa da agebulebisaa, rom
minimaluri komfortisTvis da
wyalSi yofnisas Tvalebis
`hermetiulobisTvis~ yovelT-
vis sakmarisia.
Tu auzs regularulad
stumrobT _ TveSi aTjer da
metjer, maSin saukeTeso arCeva-
ni iqneba savarjiSo saTvalebi.
saTvalis es jgufi maqsima-
luri komfortiTa da antifog-
sistemiT gamoirCeva. maT rbili
silikonis sadebebi aqvT, rom-
lebic adamians wyalSi, Tvalis
kaklis areSi mtkivneuli Segr-
Znebebis gareSe xangrZlivad
yofnis saSualebas aZlevs.
xSirad savarjiSo saTvale
aRWurvilia didi moculobis
polikarbonatuli linzebiT,
rac aqveiTebs kondensatis kon-
centraciisa da Sesabamisad,
linzis daorTqvlis xarisxsac.
arsebobs wylis saTvaleTa
kidev erTi nairsaxeoba _ sas-
tarto saTvale, romelsac pro-
fesionali sportsmenebi iyene-
ben da Cvelebriv isini sakmaod
Zviri Rirs.
gaxsovdeT:
kargad SerCeuli wylis
saTvale mWidrod unda ekvro-
des Tvalebis irgvliv saxis na-
wilebs; saTvalis rezina unda
ijdes kefaze da ara kiserze,
yurebze an maT ukan.
moamzada
zviad RonRaZem
w e l k a v i
rogor moveepyroT saTvalees
23saerTo gazeTi#34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.
mmmmssssoooofffflllliiiioooo pppprrrreeeessssiiiissss mmmmiiiixxxxeeeeddddvvvviiiiTTTT
uaxloess periodSi ssaqarTvvelo
vver gaxdeba russeTiss megobari ssaxel-
mwifo. urTierTobiss normalur kala-
potSi warmarTvvac xangrZlivvi da
xandaxan autaneli processi iqneba.
imavvdroulad, Cvvenss qvveyynebss Soriss
ssxvvadassxvva doniss kavvSirurTierToba
ssabolood ar gawyyvvetila, russeTiss
bizznessi ki kvvlavv ganagrZobss ssaqarT-
vveloss ekonomikiss invvesstirebass. am
Temebzze gvvessaubreba dssT-iiss qvveyynebiss
kavvkassiiss ganyyofilebiss xelmZRvvaneli
feliqs stanevski, romelic
1996-22000 wlebSi russeTiss federa-
ciiss ssagangebo da ssruluflebiani
elCi iyyo ssaqarTvveloSi.
_ bolo wlebSi ruseTs saqarTve-
losTan diplomatiuri urTierToba
aRar aqvs, magram amis miuxedavad,
Cvens qveynebs Soris urTierToba
srulad ver gaqreboda. am xnis gan-
mavlobaSi, rogor viTardeboda ru-
sul-qqarTuli urTierToba arasamTav-
robo doneze?
_ 2008 wlis miwuruls, roca sa-
qarTvelom ruseTTan diplomatiuri
urTierToba gawyvita, qveynebs Soris
urTierToba Semcirda, magram sru-
lad ar gawyvetila. es urTierToba,
pirdapiri formiT ara, magram mos-
kovsa da TbilisSi Sveicariis sael-
Coebis meSveobiT samTavrobo donezec
SenarCunebulia. ruseTis federaciisa
da saqarTvelos interesebis seqciebi
muSaobs am saelCoebSi rogorc Tbi-
lisSi, aseve moskovSi. es aris rus
diplomatTa jgufi, romelic muSa-
obs saqarTveloSi da agreTve, ru-
seTSi momuSave qarTvel diplomatTa
jgufi.
marTalia, diplomatiuri urTier-
Toba gawyvetilia, magram sakmaod
xSirad, saerTaSoriso molaparakebeb-
Si monawile orive saxelmwifos war-
momadgenlebi urTierTobdnen da ama
Tu im sakiTxze msjelobdnen. es xde-
boda, magaliTad, msoflio savaWro
organizaciaSi ruseTis gawevrianebis
dros, Jenevis molaparakebebis pro-
cesSi, romelic samxreT kavkasiaSi
usafrTxoebis problemebs ganixi-
lavs.
garTulebuli pirobebis miuxeda-
vad, arasamTavrobo doneze intensiu-
ri kavSiri arsebobda. sxvanairad
warmoudgenelic iqneboda, miT ume-
tes, rom ruseTSi, sxvadasxva monace-
miT, 0,5-1,5 milioni saqarTvelodan
wamosuli adamiani cxovrobs, xolo
saqarTveloSi oTx milionze naklebi
mcxovrebi darCa. saqarTvelodan
emigracia ruseTSi Senelda, Tumca
srulad ar Sewyvetila.
moskovSi saqarTvelos politiku-
ri da sazogado moRvaweebis araerTi
Sexvedra gamarTula ruseTis saxel-
mwifos xelmZRvanelo-
basTan, saxelmwifo sa-
TaTbiros, arasamTavro-
bo organizaciebis war-
momadgenlebTan. 2008
wlis agvistos omTan
dakavSirebuli sirTu-
leebi savaWro-ekonomi-
kur urTierTobazec
aisaxa. miuxedavad amisa,
rusuli biznesi kvlav
agrZelebs saqarTveloSi
saqmianobasa da qarTuli
ekonomikis investirebas.
rusul bizness mniSvne-
lovani poziciebi ukavia
saqarTvelos energetika-
Si. laparakia ruseTis samTavrobo
kompania Èíòåð ÐÀÎ-sa da mis Svilo-
bil eleqtrogamanawilebel kompania
`Telasze~. qarTul ekonomikaSi fexi
aqvs mokidebuli Ëóêîéë-sa da
Âíåøíåòîðãáàíê-s, xolo `bilaini~
saqarTvelos mobiluri kavSirgabmu-
lobis erT-erTi didi kompaniaa. oq-
rosmompovebel mrewvelobaSi wamyva-
nia rusuli kompania `madneuli~,
GeoProMining, `kvarciti~. rusi me-
warmeebi sxva dargebSic arian war-
modgenili. bolo ori wlis
ganmavlobaSi moimata ruse-
Tidan saqarTvelos kuror-
tebze Casul turistTa na-
kadma, Tumca saqarTvelos
xelisufleba sisxlissamar-
Tlebrivad devnis im ruse-
Telebs, romlebsac afxa-
zeTsa da samxreT oseTSi
mogzaureba surT.
dabolos, umniSvnelova-
nesi faqti: saxelmwifo do-
neze arsebuli sirTuleebis
miuxedavad, ori qveynis mar-
Tlmadideblurma eklesiebma
kargi urTierToba Seinar-
Cunes.
_ rogor afasebT aseTi
kontaqtebis efeqtianobas? gaxdeba ki
igi ruseT-ssaqarTvelos momavali
oficialuri urTierTobebis safuZve-
li?
_ marTalia, faqtebi moviyvane,
magram ar SeiZleba davaskvnaT, rom
isini saqarTvelo-ruseTis saxelmwi-
foTaSoris urTierTobaze SesamCnev
da dadebiT gavlenas axdens. saqarT-
velos xelisuflebam gaaaqtiura ru-
seTisadmi mtruli saqmianoba TiTqmis
yvela saerTaSoriso forumsa da or-
ganizaciaSi; es gansakuTrebiT Crdi-
loeT kavkasiasTan dakavSirebul sa-
kiTxebs exeba. arasamTavrobo doneze
arsebuli kontaqtebi, veWvob, uaxlo-
es momavalSi or saxelmwifos Soris
urTierTobis safuZveli gaxdes.
_ ra gavlenas axdens ruseTSi ar-
sebuli didi qarTuli diaspora ru-
seT-ssaqarTvelos urTierTobis ganvi-
Tarebaze?
_ qarTul diasporas ruseTis
ekonomikis, mecnierebisa da kultu-
ris ganviTarebaSi Tavisi wvlili
Seaqvs. ruseTSi arsebuli qarTuli
organizaciebi or qveyanas Soris me-
gobruli urTierTobis ganviTarebiT
arian dainteresebuli, magram es yve-
laferi ruseTis mimarT saqarTvelos
politikaze arsebiT gavlenas ver ax-
dens.
_ ra faqtorebma SeiZleba moaxdi-
nos keTilismyofeli gavlena rusul-
qarTuli urTierTobis aRdgenasa da
ganmtkicebaze da piriqiT _ ra uS-
lis xels am process?
_ jer CamovTvaloT dadebiTi faq-
torebi. es aris orsaukunovani isto-
ria, romelmac daaaxloa ori saxel-
mwifo. arsebobs utyuari mocemulo-
ba _ erTmaneTis pativiscema, miuxeda-
vad imisa, rac bolo xans moxda. se-
riozuli faqtorebia _ marTlmadi-
debloba, kulturaTa urTierTgavle-
na, rac erTian kulturul da suli-
er faseulobebs ganapirobebs, piradi
urTierTobebis simtkice, ruseTis
saqmiani wreebis daintereseba saqarT-
veloTi da udidesi rusuli bazari
qarTuli produqciis gasasaReblad.
axla imis Sesaxeb, ra muSaobs
Cven winaaRmdeg. es aris amerikis Se-
erTebuli Statebisa da misi mokavSi-
reebis aqtiuroba samxreT kavkasiidan
ruseTis gansadevnad, maTi daintere-
seba regionSi saqarTvelos geostra-
tegiuli mdebareobiT. aranaklebi
faqtoria qarTuli nacionalizmi,
romlis ideologiiTac, ruseTi yve-
laze arakeTilmosurne qveyanaa da
misgan maqsimaluri daSorebaa auci-
lebeli.
nacionalizmiT damuxtuli qarTu-
li politikuri elita dasavleTTan
daaxloebasa da natoSi, evrokavSirsa
da nebismier dasavlur struqturaSi
saqarTvelos rac SeiZleba swrafad
Sesvlas eswrafvis. uaryofiT gavle-
nas axdens cxovrebis dabali done,
gansakuTrebulad emociuri mosaxle-
obis umuSevroba, rac xelisuflebas
masobrivi Segnebis, maT Soris, ruse-
Tis mimarT manipulirebis saSualebas
aZlevs.
da bolos _ afxazeTTan da samx-
reT oseTTan konfliqti, rac saqar-
Tvelos sagareopolitikur orienta-
ciaSi radikaluri cvlilebis mizezi
ar gamxdara. 1989 wels, jer kidev
1992-1993 afxazeTis wlebis konf-
liqtamde, saqarTveloSi arsebuli
yvela partia Tavis programaSi ruse-
Tisgan damoukideblobas iTxovda. am
moTxovnas Tan axlda pretenziaTa
grZelze grZeli nusxa. da kidev _
arsebobda aSkara mtruli damokide-
buleba ruseTis mimarT. amis Sedegad
unda ganvixiloT amomrCevelTa xmebi-
sa umravlesobiT zviad gamsaxurdias
xelisuflebaSi mosvla, romelic
ruseTis aSkara mowinaaRmdege iyo.
_ Cven xelT arsebuli informaci-
iT, saqarTvelos politikosebs, maT
Soris opoziciis warmomadgenlebs
ar gaaCniaT prorusuli ganwyobile-
bebi. arseboben ki maT Soris iseTebi,
romlebsac Cvens qveynebs Soris
srulfasovani urTierTobis aRdgena
surT da mzad arian dialogisTvis?
_ prorusulad ganwyobili qarT-
veli politikosebi an emigraciaSi
arian, an cixeSi sxedan. isini jer ki-
dev SevardnaZem gandevna politikuri
scenidan. ruseTTan urTierToba
bevrs unda undodes. saakaSvilis mom-
xreebic ar iqnebodnen ru-
seTTan dialogis winaaRmde-
gi: ekonomikuri da socialu-
ri TvalsazrisiT, es yvela-
ze metad saqarTvelos sWir-
deba da es vlindeba rusuli
biznesis mimarT damokidebu-
lebaSi, agreTve ruseTisken
im adamianebis masobrivi emig-
raciiT, visi dasaqmebac sa-
qarTvelos xelisuflebas ar
SeuZlia. sakiTxis umTavresi
arsi SemdegSia: es aris sa-
qarTvelos politelitis
principuli arCevani _ Crdi-
loeli mtruli mezoblis _
ruseTisgan distancireba da-
savleTis sasargeblod.
Tuki saqarTvelos xelisufleba-
Si axali Zalebi movlen, ruseTis mi-
marT arsebuli damokidebulebis ko-
reqtireba SesaZlebeli iqneba. siRr-
miseuli cvlilebebis imedi ki nu
gveqneba. CamoTvlili dadebiTi faq-
torebi politikur doneze ar vlin-
deba da politikuradac ar aris ga-
moxatuli. isini bevrad ufro sus-
tia, vidre uaryofiTi gavlenis gare-
moebebi.
uaxloes momavalSi saqarTvelo
ruseTis megobari qveyana ver gaxdeba.
urTierTobis normalur kalapotSi
warmarTvac xangrZlivi da mtkivneu-
li procesi iqneba.
rosbalt.rumoamzada g. WavWavaZem.
ruseTi saqarTvelos ekonomikis wamyvandargebSi prioritetul poziciebzea
qveynebs Soris urTierTobis aRdgenis
perspeqtiva kvlavac ar arsebobs
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...1123 wlis 20 agvistoa. daviT
aRmaSenebeli, romelsac ukve dab-
runebuli aqvs mTeli qvemo qarT-
li, javaxeTi, kola, karnifori da
basiani, boJanoSi movida. aq mas
daxvdnen somxeTidan mosuli `mwig-
nobarni anelTa (aniselTa _ g.q.)
TavadTani da moaxsenes mocema qa-
laqisa da cixeTa boJanos wyaroTa
zeda mdgomsa~. es imas niSnavs, rom
gawamebuli somxebi daviTs Txovd-
nen, oRond ki Turq-selCukebi gag-
viyare qveynidan da mzad varT ani-
si da danarCeni somxeTi Tqven Se-
mogavedroTo.
ratom unda aerCiaT Sesaxved-
rad es adgili? SesaZloa, imitom,
rom aq _ saqarTvelos teritoria-
ze, damatebiTi sabaJo iyo, aseT
punqtSi ki daviTisgan waxalisebu-
li somexi vaWrebis mcire dasaxle-
bis arseboba gamoricxuli ar iqne-
boda. amdenad, anisidan mosul el-
Cebs erTgvar Sinaur garemoSi unda
egrZnoT Tavi.
boJanos wyaroebis adgilsamyo-
feli profesor devi berZeniSvi-
lisgan vicodiT da mis misagnebad
boJanoeli somxebis daxmareba ar
dagvWirvebia. soflidan samxreT-aR-
mosavleTiT, mTaze raRac nageboba
ikiTxeba da iqiT miveSurebiT. Sua
gzaze kidev erT, koSkis msgavs nan-
grevs vxedavT Soridan da amitom
Tavdapirvelad mis sanaxavad vCer-
debiT. zed rom wavadeqiT, daqceu-
li eklesiis naSTi _ misi aRmosav-
leTis kedeli aRmoCnda. eklesia
sakmaod mozrdili, Tlili qviT na-
gebi Senoba yofila da axla, ro-
gorc xuroTmoZRvruli Zegli, ga-
nadgurebulia. am adgils leknari
hqvia da adre, albaT sofelic ar-
sebobda. es toponimi eTnos leke-
bisgan ki ar aris nawarmoebi, ara-
med xis erT-erTi jiSisgan _ le-
kisgan.
... gzas ganvagrZobT da maRla
viwevT. gamoCnda ori mcire tba,
romelic sinamdvileSi ori datbo-
rili wyaroa. swored es aris bo-
Janos wyaroebi. mTis Txemze arse-
buli nageboba aqedan Sors aRaraa.
rogorc irkveva, daviT aRmaSe-
neblis karvebis naalagarze XII sa-
ukuneSi sakmaod mozrdili saydari
augiaT, romelic, erTi mcire war-
weris Tanaxmad, ioane naTlismcem-
lis saxelobisa yofila. naeklesi-
aris xilva aRSfoTebasa da gaogne-
bas iwvevs.
nafuZaris fragmentebidan dgin-
deba, rom eklesias Sverili absidi
da sammxrivi minaSenebi hqonia. misi
saerTo zoma 14,5X13,5 metri yofi-
la da arc CuqurTmebi hklebia.
boJanos da, albaT sxva mimdeba-
re somxuri soflebis mosaxleobas
taZari ise `aRudgenia~, rom axla
sayaraulos ufro hgavs. salocavad
datovebulia mxolod sakurTxev-
lis absidi, romelic dasavleTidan
Cveulebrivi kar-fanjriani kedliT
dauxuravT. am izolirebul, gada-
xurul nawilSi ramdenime Zveli
samkauliani qva CamourigebiaT. ek-
lesiis danarCeni nawili (centra-
luri darbazis mTeli are). Ria da-
utovebiaT 2-3 metris simaRlis
kedlebis doneze da somxur yaida-
ze salocavis winkarad (mcire
ezod) uqceviaT. kedlebis kuTxeeb-
Si Zveli saflavis qvis verZebia
Semodgmuli. erTi sityviT, Cvens
winaSea gaugebari epoqis gaugebari
nageboba, romelsac xuroTmoZRvre-
basTan aranairi kavSiri ar aqvs.
amas aborigeni qarTveli an Tundac
Zvelad mkvidri somexi arafriT ar
izamda. qarTvelTa da somexTa sau-
kunovani mezoblobisa da Tanadgo-
mis es wminda alagi, rogorc Cans,
XIX saukuneSi aq dasaxlebuli
mcireazieli armenebisTvis Zvirad
ar fasobs.
... vdgavar naeklesiarTan da
vixseneb:
1123 wlis 23 agvistos aq, bo-
JanoSi daviT mefis daZaxilze di-
di laSqari Seikriba: `mesamesa dRe-
sa samoci aTasi mxedari win udga
(daviTs _ g.q.). waremarTa da vi-
Tarca miiwia, mesame dResa aiRo qa-
laqi anisi da cixeni misni uWirve-
lad da sofelni da qveyanani mimd-
gomi anisisani~. amis mere anisis
did taZarSi `berZenTa asulsa, de-
dufal katronites... mefeman samg-
zis saflavsa CasZaxa _ gixaroden
Sen, wmidao dedofalo, rameTu ix-
sna RmerTman saydari Seni usjulo-
Ta xelTagan!~
... boJanoSi vbrundebiT da bara-
leTiswylis marcxena sanapiros mo-
vuyvebiT daRma. kaWioSi SevdivarT.
aq mosaxle somxebs misTvis gajo
daurqmeviaT. .patara sofelSi qar-
TvelTa saxlobis droidan mxolod
IX-X saukuneebis eklesia dgas. igi
XI saukuneSi ganuaxlebiaT da
Tlili qvis perangiT SeumosavT.
Zveli naSenebidan CrdiloeTis
fleTili qvis kedelia moRweuli.
saydars kamarebi morRveuli aqvs.
aRmosavleTisa da dasavleTis sar-
kmlebis mosarTav Tasmebs Tu ar mi-
viRebT mxedvelobaSi, kedlebi
usamkauloa. usiamo gancdas iwvevs
darbazSi, CrdiloeT kedelTan aR-
marTul svetze Semodebuli axal-
Sewiruli cxvris Tavi. umRvdlod,
rwmenaSelaxul mosaxleobas taZa-
ri lamis warmarTul sazoravad ga-
uxdia.
kaWios samxreTiT nasoflari
sirgvaa, sadac XVI saukunis bo-
los, `gurjistanis vilaieTis didi
davTris~ Tanaxmad, oTxi qarTuli
ojaxi cxovrobda, erT cida so-
fels, Turme, 2 wisqvili hqonia.
Cveni megzuri, koTelieli emzar
xuciSvili gveubneba: ufrosebisgan
gamigia, rom tyian javaxeTSi sauke-
Teso xorbals swored aq iwevdnen
da sakmaod kargad cxovrobdnen.
sirgvis nasaxlaris kvali ax-
lac SeiZleba gavarkvioT barale-
Tiswylis napirze, iq, sadac koxta
eklesia dgas. igi sigrZeSi 5 met-
ria, siganeSi ki sul raRac 4,3
metri. Tu imasac gaviTvaliswinebT,
rom kedlebis sisqe TiTqmis 1 met-
ria, maSin iolad mivxvdebiT, Sig-
niT ra siviwovea. saydari nagebia
uxeSad damuSavebuli kldis lode-
biT, romelTac konstruqciul na-
wilebSi granitis Tlili kvadrebi
enacvleba, aqvs ori _ samxreTisa
da aRmosavleTis sarkmeli, magram
es ukanaskneli sanaxevrod amouqo-
lavT somxebs, romelTac ganaTebu-
li sakurTxeveli ar uyvarT. maT
mierve Zalian amaRlebulia sakur-
Txevlis iatakis done, xolo iqve
feradi WinWebi _ warmarTuli sa-
kadrisebia mibneuli. yvelaze gul-
satkeni is aris, rom VII-VIII sau-
kuneebis am Zegls
samxreTis fasadi
aqvs xelyofili. na-
lisebri moyvanilo-
bis karis lunetis
siRrmeSi Casmuli
e.w. bolonuri jvris
qveviT amotexili da
waSlilia warwera,
romelic saintereso
istoriuli sabuTi
unda yofiliyo.
taZridan dasav-
leTiT, daaxloebiT
300 metrSi, mcire
axalnageb galavanSi
aRmarTulia stela,
romelic, SesaZloa,
yvelze maRalic kia
mTel javaxeTSi. igi
erTiani qvisganaa ga-
mokveTili. qvajvarTan erTi somxu-
ri ojaxia amosuli. cxvris xorci,
basturma, tkbileuli da wiTeli
Rvino amoutaniaT. patara biWs
mxarze mtredi azis, Camoiyvans da
gaafrens xolme. ifrens mtredi,
ifrens da isev mxarze daajdeba
biWs. Cans kargad hyavs gawvrTnili.
_ aq amaRleba dRes viciT xol-
me Sekreba, _ ambobs Cveni megzuri
emzar xuciSvili, _ qarTvelebTan
erTad somxebic modian, caSi mtre-
debs vuSvebT. axla ver gamigia, ra
xdeba. waval gavigeb.
aq ucvlelad unda movitano is
legenda, romelic sirgvis amaRle-
bis jvarTan dakavSirebiT krebul
`javaxeTSia~ Setanili: `sveti 7
Zma javaxs walkaSi mouparavs da
malulad javaxeTSi wamouRia. sir-
gvis mindorze Zmebs dausveniaT da
dauZiniaT. roca gauRviZiaT, sveti
adgilidan veRar dauZravT. uTq-
vamT, albaT daRlilebi varT da
qvis aweva ver SevZeliTo, isev da-
viZinoT da mere waviRoTo. ZilSi
maT angelozi gamocxadebiaT, ro-
melsac uTqvams _ svetis bina aq
aris da aqve aRmarTeTo. Zmebi asec
moqceulan. SemdgomSi es sveti qa-
riSxals wauqcevia, avazakebs oq-
ros jvari mouparavT, rasac mohyo-
lia didi gvalva. saqoneli da mo-
savali iRupeboda. 3 weliwadi so-
feli SimSiliT wydeboda. erT mo-
saxles sizmriT Seutyvia, saqmes
mxolod svetis wamoyeneba da dad-
gma uSveliso. qvis aRsamarTad mTe-
li kuTxe daZrula, mogrovili fu-
liT 3 xari uyidiaT da dauklavT.
imave dRes kokispiruli wvima mo-
sula da mosavalic didi miuRiaT.
amitomac amaRlebas mlocvelebi am
jvars SesTxoven Wirnaxulis karg
mosavals, ojaxisa da saqonlis gam-
ravlebas~. aris mosazreba, rom na-
soflaris saxelwodeba `sirgva~
ufro Zvel `sirqvas~ Caenacvla,
romelic ori sityvis kompozitia:
siri (Citi) da qva. toponimis amg-
vari axsna, aRwerili tradiciidan
gamomdinare (qvis svetTan mtrede-
bis afrena), savsebiT realuria.
... amasobaSi emzari brundeba da
momlocvel somexTa naTqvams gvac-
nobs _ amaRlebas aq ar viyaviT da
gvaswavles sulTmofenobis meore
dRes Tu aafrenT mtredebs, isic
kargi iqnebao.
gela qoqiaSviliavtoris fotoebi
mogzauroba samSobloSitye-jjaavaaxeTSi mogzaaurobaa isev Crdilo-
eTidaan, taabaawyuris tbis mimdebaare terito-
riidaan undaa daaviwyoT, oRond aamjeraad baa-
raaleTiswylis maarcxenaa saanaapiros Caamovy-
veT. aaq pirveli sofeliaa boJaano. toponim
boJaanos waarmomaavlobaa daauzustebeliaa. igi
aan saabaaJo-ggaamSvebi punqtisgaan undaa momdinaa-
reobdes, aan cxvris daaumuSaavebeli tyaavisgaan _ buJuJidaan.
rodis daaaarsdaa es sofeli, daaudgeneliaa, saaistorio wyaaro-
ebiT ki, (`̀cxovrebaa mefeT-mmefisaa daaviTisi~) pirvelaad XII
saaukunidaan daasturdebaa.
tye-javaxeTi
amaRlebis mtredebi
sirgvis eklesia, stela da
stelis bazisi
kaWios eklesia da misi
erT-erTi imposti
boJanos gadakeTebuli eklesia da leknaris eklesiis SemorCenili fragmenti
25saerTo gazeTi#34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.
msofliom qarTvel
xalxs SeverdnaZe arCia!
aqve, aucileblad unda waga-
kiTxoT Cems mier dawerili weri-
li, romelic daibeWda Cemive re-
daqtorobiT gamomaval gazeTSi,
`saqarTvelos samreklo~-Si
(#60, 1998 w.). werilis saTau-
ria `msofliom qarTvel xalxs
SevardnaZe arCia~.
`...msofliom qarTveli xalxi
aigdo abuCad da ukve didi xania
ayenebs Seuracxyofas.
msofliom qarTvel xalxs Se-
vardnaZe arCia!
SevardnaZe camde ahyavs msof-
lios!
SevardnaZes kokispirulad
asaCuqreben aTasgvari saxelobis
saerTaSoriso premiebiT!
SevardnaZes asaxeleben upirve-
les demokratad dedamiwaze!
SevardnaZe, Turme ise, rom
qarTvel xalxs ar scodnia, udi-
desi, msoflio rangis politiko-
si yofila!
Turme _ msofliom icis!
qarTvel xalxs ki Tvalis Ci-
ni dagvkargvia da Cvens Tvalwin
`msoflios gadarCenisaTvis~ xe-
lebdakapiwebuli SevardnaZe ver
amogvicvnia!
rogorc ukve viciT _ msof-
lio ironiiT dagvcqeris qarTvel
xalxs da SevardnaZis pirovnebis
Cvens cxvirwin trialiT gveubne-
ba:
-hei, Tqven, velurno, erTader-
Ti kaci gyavT da Tqveni cnobiere-
ba ar gyofniT mis Sesacnobad!
diax!
msoflios imperiebi ukve didi
xania udides Seuracxyofas gvaye-
neben qarTvelobas!
mainc, ra ubedurebaa Cvens
Tavs?
ratom amogviCemes da gagvime-
tes?
viTom Cvenze kargad icnoben
SevardnaZes?
ara da ara! aq raRac sxva am-
bavia!
amgvari eWvis safuZvels gvaZ-
levs Cveni uaxloesi warsuli!
SevardnaZes usasrulod aji-
ldoeben leninur-komkavSiruli
kompartiuli premiebiT, gardamava-
li droSebiT, gzas ukvalavdnen
politbiurosaken, bolos ki, qar-
TvelTa gasaocrad, daniSnes sab-
WoTa kavSiris sagareo saqmeTa mi-
nistrad.
ra moxda maSin, batonebo?
riTi, ra codniT, ra ganaTle-
biT, ra erudiciiT, ra gvariSvi-
lobiT moxibla SevardnaZem sab-
WoeTi da msoflios danarCeni im-
periebi, rom amxela qveynis saga-
reo saqmeebi miandes?
vinmes sjera, rom sabWoTa kav-
SirSi SevardnaZeze niWieri, Rir-
seuli pirovneba ar moiZebna da
ver gamoinaxa?
roca amgvar kiTxvebs gaigeb,
SeiZleba kacs `xarxari agifeTq-
des~!
rogor mogwonT batonebo, am-
gvari gamoTqma: `xarxaris afeTqe-
ba?~
iqneb me damabraloT?
ara, es Cemi gamonagoni ar
aris! es gaxlavT SevardnaZis mig-
neba, romelic gaxmianda israel-
Si, sadac mas demokratiis umaR-
lesi jildoTi daumSvenes mkerdi.
israelSi ganacxades, rom Se-
vardnaZem saqarTveloSi demokra-
tia daamyarao!
xmamaRla gaiZaxian, SevardnaZe
msoflio rangis politikosia,!
gaxleCili qveynebi SeaerTa, omebi
Sewyvita... ufro metic _ igi ko-
munist-disidenti iyo. Turme, fa-
rulad Seipara jer kompartiis
rigebSi, mere politbiuroSi, ra-
Ta sabWoTa kavSiri daemxo!
es ambavi Rimils iwvevs, si-
yalbea, tyuilia, radgan balRmac
icis _ sabWoTa kavSiris sagareo
saqmeTa ministri mudam warmoad-
genda haerSi gadamfren Cits, ro-
melic kremlis neba-survilze mi-
mofrenda da sakmarisi iyo, raime
`disidenturi~ ram ganezraxa, rom
Surduls styorcnidnen da Camo-
agdebdnen...
sakiTxavia mxolod erTi _
rodis gaimeteben Tavad Sevardna-
Zes? magram, misi gameteba rom
surdeT, msoflios e.w. wamyvani
imperiebi mas amden qeba-didebas ar
Seasxamdnen. maSasadame _ kidev
sWirdebaT da Cvens, qarTvelTa
Tavze da aqedan gamomdinare,
mTels kavkasiaSi dampyrobTa geg-
ma-Ta momavali ganxorcieleba da-
iwyeba~.
`kidev ras umzadeben
saqarTvelos~?
sxvaTa Soris, amave gazeTis
(`saqarTvelos samreklo~ #60,
1998 w.), pirvel gverdze gamog-
viqveynebia zviad gamsaxurdias
momcro werili saTauriT `kidev
ras umzadeben saqarTvelos~ (da-
werilia 1993 wlis 19 ivniss):
`saqarTvelos istoria savsea
sxvaTa qveynebisTvis Tavdadebuli
da sakuTari qveynebis damaqcevari
ianiCarebiT da mamluqebiT, erT-
erTi aseTia SevardnaZe, romelmac
saqarTvelos ngrevisa da ubedu-
rebis meti araferi moutana. Cem-
Tvis gasagebia germaniis mTavrobis
damokidebuleba misadmi. igi da
gorbaCovi kargad gamoiyenes sak-
uTari politikuri miznebisTvis,
magram moaruli azri imis Sesaxeb,
rom man daamTavra `civi omi~ da
gaaerTiana germania, daaxloebiT
imas hgavs, vinmem marSal keitels
rom miaweros meore msoflio
omis damTavreba imis gamo, rom man
kapitulaciaze moawera xeli.
gorbaCovisa da SevardnaZis kapi-
tulacia `civ omSi~ maTi keTili
nebis Sedegi ki ar iyo, aramed ma-
Ti damarcxebisa... dasavleTis po-
litologiaSi arsebobs azri, rom
kapitulaciis sanacvlod dasav-
leTis xelisufalni gorbaCovsa
da SevardnaZes mudmiv politikur
mxardaWeras dahpirdnen yofili
sabWoTa kavSiris qveynebSi Zala-
uflebis SenarCunebaSi. amgvar xe-
lisufalTa Soris arian maaxst-
rixtis mesveurebi, romelnic
erovnul saxelmwifoTa suvereni-
tetis ganadgurebas da `erTiani
evropis~ Seqmnas isaxaven miznad.
swored isini amyareben imeds Se-
vardnaZeze da yovelnairad cdi-
loben mis gadarCenas~.
samxedro gadatrialebiT gao-
cebuli, SeZruli, da
emigraciaSi myofi zviad
gamsaxurdia Tavis Ria
werilSi 1992 wlis 5
Tebervals (daibeWda
`svobodnaia gazeta~-Si
#12, 1996 w.) ruseTis
federaciis prezidents
boris elcins swerda:
`pativcemulo ba-
tono prezidento!
ukve meore Tvea,
rac SeiaraRebulma `o-
poziciam~ saqarTvelo-
Si amierkavkasiis sam-
xedro olqis mxarda-
WeriT saomari moqmede-
bebi daiwyo xalxis mi-
er arCeuli kanonieri
xelisuflebis winaaRm-
deg. iRvreba sisxli.
qveyana gapartaxebis pi-
ras dgas, anarqiam dai-
sadgura.
sabrZolo moqmedebebis dawye-
bamde `opozicia~ mkacrad akriti-
kebda saqarTvelos oficialuri
xelisuflebis politikas, viTom-
dac dedmokratiis uqonlobis ga-
mo, amav dros ki gamalebiT iar-
aRdeboda. TandaTan naTeli xdebo-
da, rom sakuTari ZalebiT, amier-
kavkasiis samxedro olqis uSua-
lo daxmarebis gareSe igi ver mo-
axerxebda im teqnikisa da Seiara-
Rebis SeZenas, romelic mas amJa-
mad gaaCnia... `opozicia~ pirdapir
acxadebs, rom yovelives prezi-
dent elcinis brZanebiT, mas ami-
erkavkasiis samxedro olqi awv-
dis... SesaZloa, vinme Segvepasu-
xos, rom amgvari mtkiceba doku-
mentur dasabuTebas moiTxovs, mag-
ram, meores mxriv, yvela gakvirve-
bulia oficialuri ruseTis du-
miliT saqarTveloSi mimdinare am-
bebTan dakavSirebiT. agreTve ru-
seTis masobrivi informaciis sa-
Sualebebi, pirvel rigSi, televi-
zia saqarTveloSi momxdar movle-
nebze saubrisas dums, rom qveyana-
Si TviTnebobs danaSaulebrivi
samxedro xunta da safuZveli ey-
reba saSinel totalitarul re-
Jims, romlis Sedareba mxolod
germanul faSizmTan an kampuCiaSi
pol potas reJimTan Tu SeiZleba.
saqarTveloSi dRes arsebuli re-
Jimi Rvris udanaSaulo adamianTa
sisxls, xvrets mSvidobian mitin-
gebs da demonstraciebs, sakuTari
azris Tavisufali gamoxatvisaT-
vis apatimrebs asobiT adamians. ama
wlis 2 Tebervals, xuntis krimi-
nalebma demonstraciis dros 20
adamiani mokles da 200-mde daW-
res. nuTu demokratiuli ruseTi
ver amCnevs yovelive amas?.. du-
mili niSnavs, rom usityvod amar-
TlebT terors, adamianis ufleba-
Ta fexqveS gaTelvas, danaSau-
lebriv elementTa TareSs, rom-
lebic oficialuri xelisufle-
bis saxeliT gamodian.
aRsaniSnavia isic, rom ruse-
Tis televizia, saqarTvelos mov-
lenebis gaSuqebisas, aRSfoTe-
buli mosaxleobis mravalaTasian
mitingebs `zviadistebis mitin-
gebs~ uwodebs, xolo kanonieri
qurdis j. ioselianis kriminalur
bandebs, romelnic mSvidobian mi-
tingebs xvreten, `samTavrobo ja-
rebis~ da `samarTaldamcveli or-
ganoebis~ saxelwodebiT moixseni-
ebs.
saqarTvelos hyavs kanonieri
prezidenti, parlamenti da mTav-
roba, romelTanac yovelTvis
hqonda oficialuri urTierToba
ruseTis federaciuli respubli-
kis warmomadgenlebs. gavixsenoT,
Tundac Cveni Sexvedra yazbegSi
gasuli wlis martSi, roca Cvens
mier xelmoweril iqna oqmi saqar-
Tvelosa da ruseTs Soris xel-
Sekrulebis dadebis Taobaze. ra
Seicvala mas Semdeg? ram gaiZu-
laT mtruli pozicia dageWiraT
xalxis mier arCeuli xelisufle-
bis mimarT da usityvod gecnoT
sisxlis samarTlis damnaSaveTa
xunta? rogorc sCans, Tqvens mier
saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg mimarTu-
li amgvari zomebi gamowveulia
imiT, rom ruseTma ar miiRo Cven-
gan dauyovnebeli pasuxi xelSek-
rulebis xelmowerisa saqarTve-
los dsT-Si Sesvlis Taobaze. sa-
qarTvelos prezidentis gamoucxa-
debloba alma-aTis saxelmwifo
meTaurTa Sexvedraze 1991 wlis
dekemberSi aixsneba imiT, rom 22
dekembers e.w. opoziciis Seiara-
Rebulma bandebma ieriSi miitanes
saqarTvelos parlamentis Senoba-
ze.
amrigad, Tu e.w. opoziciis
mtkiceba, saqarTveloSi ganxorci-
elebul putCSi ruseTis monawi-
leobis Sesaxeb, usafuZvloa, mo-
giwodebT-Tqven, batono preziden-
to, movuwodeb ruseTis parlamen-
tsa da mTavrobas, gamoxatoT
Tqveni principuli pozicia, yve-
lafris mimarT, rac saqarTvelo-
Si xdeba. mogiwodebT, saTanado
Sefaseba misceT kriminaluri sam-
xedro xuntis sisxlian qmedebebs,
mouwodoT gaeros, msoflios
xalxebsa da mTavrobebs, gadaarCi-
nos qarTveli xalxi im katast-
rofisagan, romelic mas emuqreba
samxedro gadatrialebis, konsti-
tuciuri wyobis ganadgurebisa da
sisxliani totalitaruli reJi-
mis damyarebis Sedegad. mxolod
amiT SegiZliaT saqmiT daamtki-
coT, rom ruseTi marTlac demok-
ratiuli qveyanaa.
prezidentebi modian da midi-
an. xanmoklea samxedro xuntebis
arsebobis Jamic, vinaidan say-
ovelTao wyevla-krulvas imsaxu-
reben. xalxTa Soris keTili da-
mokidebuleba ki mxolod urT-
ierTdaxmarebas emyareba gansacde-
lisa da Znelbedobis Jams.
amgvarad aris sasurveli, war-
movidginoT Cveni xalxebis momava-
li~.
(gagrZeleba Semdeg nomerSi)
P.S. 2012 wlis 5 agvistos,
saRamos 9 saaTze `rusTavi-22~-mma
mayurebeli sagangebod gaafrTxi-
la, rom sainformacio gadacemis
damTavrebisTanave naCvenebi iqnebo-
da dokumenturi filmi... avtori
gaxlavT Toma CageliSvili da mi-
si `naRvawi~, raRa Tqma unda, Se-
exeboda ruseTis mier saqarTve-
loSi ganxorcielebul teroris-
tul aqtebs da 1991-11992 wlebis
samxedro gadatrialebebs!
Toma CageliSvils uxilavi xe-
li ukve karga xania exmareba da
uxvadac afinansebs usasrulod
`Seqmnas~ da samzeoze gamoitanos
1991-11992 wlebSi momxdari sam-
xedro gadatrialebisadmi miZRvni-
li masala!
mizani mudam erTi da igivea:
pirdapir Tu iribad, momxdarSi
daadanaSaulos zviad gamsaxurdi-
as xelisufleba da, rac umTavre-
sia, yovelgvari pasuxismgebloba
aacilos SevardnaZes.
aSkaraa, rom Toma CageliSvi-
li da misi megobari istorikose-
bi cdiloben daamaxinjon saqarT-
velos istoria da yovelgvari pa-
suxismgebloba aacilon ara mxo-
lod SevardnaZes, aramed evroame-
rikelTa specsamsaxurebsac.
Zvirfaso mkiTxvelo, `saerTo
gazeTSi~ Tqven ukve kiTxulobT
dokumentur Txzulebas `mware
gakveTilebi _ evroamerika, ruse-
Ti da saqarTvelo~. ra Tqma unda,
TiToeul Tqvengans gaqvT SesaZ-
lebloba SeadaroT mocemuli faq-
tebi imas, rasac Toma CageliSvi-
li gvTavazobs!
saqme Cveni samSoblos uaxlo-
es istorias exeba! aq, piruTvne-
loba da didi Rirsebaa saWiro
rommomaval Taobas marTali sity-
va uTxra da WeSmariti simarTle
dautovo!
mware gakveTilebievroamerika, ruseTi da saqarTvelo
ciklidan: omi bneleTTan _ ricxvi misi 666
jemal davlianiZe
gagrZeleba. dasawyisi ix.
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astrologiuri
prognozi
verZi _ es kvira Tqve-
nTvis SedarebiT SfoTi-
ani da saintereso iqneba.
emociebi cota moTokeT, Torem
garSemo myofebTan SeiZleba
urTierToba gagirTuldeT.
kuro _ mosalodnelia
romantikuli Sexve-
drebi, SeiZleba raime
Seicvalos Tqvens partniorTan
urTierTobaSi. Tu arsebuli
garigebebi sxvadasxva mizezebis
gamo ar iZleoda dadebiT efe-
qts, isini am kviraSi sasike-
Tod dasruldeba.
tyupebi _ darwmune-
buli iyaviT, rom am kvi-
raSi yvela sakiTxSi wa-
rmatebis didi Sansi gaqvT. ig-
rZnobT SemoqmedebiT da aqti-
uri energiis mozRvavebas.
kirCxibi _ am kviraSi
mniSvnelovan problemebs
gadawyvetT da SeZlebT,
daasruloT garkveuli saqmeebi.
lomi _ nu ganmarto-
vdebiT, Torem proble-
mis mogvarebis nacvlad
depresiaSi CavardebiT. uqme
dReebSi daiviwyeT samsaxurTan
dakavSirebuli problemebi da
daisveneT.
qalwuli _ am kvi-
raSi SeZlebT probleme-
bisgan Tavis daRwevas.
moipovebT warmatebas biznessa
da profesiul saqmianobaSi.
saswori _ es kvira
dadebiTi iqneba saswo-
rTa umravlesobisaTvis
materialuri keTildReobis
gasaumjobeseblad.
morieli _ am kviraSi
Tu Tqvens problemebs
ar moagvarebT, garwmu-
nebT, aucileblad SegecvlebaT
guneba-gganwyobileba. mosalo-
dnelia konfliqtebis Semci-
reba.
mSvildosani _ mo-
salodnelia yofiTi
problemebi. ecadeT, mSv-
idi atmosfero SeiqmnaT. Ca-
ukvirTiT sirTuleebs da saku-
Tar TavSi eZebeT gamosavlis
povnis SesaZlebloba.
Txis rrqa _ Txis rqa-
Ta umravlesobam am kvi-
raSi aqtiuroba unda ga-
moiCinos. geliT warmateba bi-
znesSi, SemoqmedebiT saqmiano-
basa da sasiyvarulo urTi-
erTobaSi.
merwyuli _ Seeca-
deT, maqsimalurad gamo-
iyenoT Tqveni fizikuri
da sulieri Zalebi sasurveli
saqmisTvis. xelmZRvanel pire-
bTan urTierToba gagiumjobe-
sdebaT.
Tevzebi _ am kviraSi
SesaZlebeli gaxdeba ara
marto Tqven garSemo
myofi adamianebis Secvla, ara-
med axali saqmianobis dawyebac,
romelic Zalze saintereso da
perspeqtiuli iqneba.
nniiuu-iioorrkkSSii mmeeccnniieerreebbiissTTvviiss ddRReemmddee uuccnnoobbii mmoonnssttrrii aaRRmmooaaCCiinneess
ist riveris
raionSi jilim da
misma megobarma uC-
veulo, didkbile-
biani monstri ipo-
ves. SeSinebulma
gogonam moaxerxa
misTvis foto ga-
daeRo sakuTari
mobiluri tele-
foniT. jilim fo-
toebi sxvadasxva
gazeTs gaugzavna.
aSS-is parkebis
departamentis pres-spikeris viki karpis SexedulebiT, monst-
ri Semwvar Rors hgavs, romelic viRacam fanjridan gadaagdo.
magram Rors xom grZeli kudi da TaTebi ara aqvs? amaze viki
karpi arafers ambobs. mecnierTa mtkicebiT, cxoveli ZaRls
yvelaze metad hgavs. mimdinareobs kvleva, ra tipis mutacias-
Tan SeiZleba gvqondes saqme.
aaddaammiiaanneebbss SSeeuuZZlliiaaTT 330000 wweellii iiccooccxxlloonn??
1974 wels li-
banma mosTxova saf-
rangeTs is 12 mumia
daebrunebina, romle-
bic 1921-26 wlebSi
frangi mecnierebis
jgufma waiRo qvey-
nidan da Semdeg dai-
karga. dRemde ucno-
bia, iyo Tu ara saf-
rangeTis mier mitacebul koleqciaSi asakovani mumiebi. liba-
nuri mxare iuwyeba, rom mumiebi qalaq biblosSi aRmoaCines ba-
albekis sataZro kompleqsSi me-20 s-is 20-ian wlebSi.
britaneTis muzeumi ukve 200 weliwadia ar ubrunebs saber-
ZneTs parTenonis bareliefebs, xolo venecia uarzea daabrunos
bizantiis imperatorebis samefo aRWurvilobani. libanuri pre-
sa ityobineba, rom safrangeTis specsamsaxurebis laboratori-
ebSi, naxevari saukunea ukve, rac mumiebis detaluri Seswavla
mimdinareobs, radgan jer kidev 1962 wlidan mumiebis analiz-
ma aCvena, rom 12 finikiuri mumiidan TiToeuli maTgani 300
wlis asakSi gardaicvala.
sicocxlis xangrZlivoba finikiaSi saxelmwifo doneze yo-
fila atanili. rogorc arqivis direqtori aleqsandr jemiri
ityobineba, mefe xiram I, romelic Cv.w.aR-mde 969-996 wleb-
Si mefobda, ubrZana graalis mcvelebs SeeqmnaT mudmivi axal-
gazrdobis recepti. amisTvis aSenda ori taZari biblosSi da
baalbekSi. ra moxda Semdeg _ ucnobia, radgan mefe xirami 53
wlis asakSi gardaicvala.
magram ubralo xalxi mainc eZebda sicocxlis xangrZlivo-
bis gasaRebs. karTagenSi punikuri omebis dawyebamde qalebs uf-
leba eZleodaT weliwadSi erTxel daxocili monebis sisxl-
Si ebanavaT mTvaris RvTaeba tanitis sapativcemulod, es RvTa-
eba oci wliT `aaxalgazrdavebda~ mis Tayvanismcemels. 264 w.
Cv.w.aR-mde es mxe-
curi procedura
qalaqis sabWom
gaauqma. sisxlSi
banaoba mxolod
tanitis sapativ-
cemulod iyo Se-
saZlebeli, nebis-
mier sxva SemTx-
vevaSi _ ara.
baalis taZar-
Si arqeologebma
aRmoaCines oTaxe-
bi, romlebic sav-
se iyo adamianTa ZvlebiT, _ ambobs istorikosi rasim gaidari.
baali saswaulmoqmedi `RmerTi~ iyo, mas patara bavSvebsac ki
swiravdnen.
kvlevebis Sedegad cxadi xdeba, rom is 12 mumia ekuTvnis
qurumebs, romlebmac Seqmnes `sicocxlis eleqsiri~.
cnobilia, rom egviptis faraonebis dinastiis warmomadgen-
lebi da TviT ramzesi 25-30 wlis asakSi gardaicvalnen. maSin
40 wlis adamiani moxucebulad iTvleboda. biblia ambobs, rom
adamma 930 weliwadi icocxla, misi vaJi _ semi _ 912 wlis
iyo, noem _ 950 weli icocxla. yvelaze didxans maTusalam
gaZlo, is samoTxeSi moxvda maSin, roca 969 wlis iyo. 90
wlis asakSi, Tu biblias davujerebT, qalebi Svilebs Sobdnen,
xolo 125 weli sibrZnis wlad iTvleboda. saeklesio istori-
kosi evsevi kesarieli Tavis CanawerebSi 5 faraonze hyveba. isi-
ni 100 weliwadi marTavdnen qveyanas. igi aRwers SemTxvevas,
roca faraoni pepi II 6 wlis asakSi avida taxtze da marTav-
da 94 weliwadi (2184 weli Cv.w.aR-mde). arsebobs cnobebi, rom
pepi II-m 400 weli icocxla.
is ki ara, uZveles mematianeTa Soris kamaTi mimdinareobda,
ratom iyo zogierTi adamiani `ukvdavi~, xolo zogierTi _ ara.
mecnierebi saubroben eTiopiaSi aRmoCenil erT istoriul wya-
roze, romlis mixedviT, bevri eTiopieli mefe da misi garSe-
momyofni 200 weli cocxlobdnen.
saqme isaa, rom daaxloebiT 3000 wlis winaT adamianebi 3-
5 saukune cocxlobdnen. riTi da ra saSualebebiT, amaze pasu-
xi, jerjerobiT, ar arsebobs.
aallkkoohhoollii ggoonneebbaass aaaaqqttiiuurreebbssilinoisis Sta-
tis universite-
tis fsiqologebma
kvleva Caatares
aRmoCnda, rom ma-
makacebi, romleb-
sac alkoholi
hqondaT miRebuli
ufro logikurad
wyvetdnen proble-
mebs. kvlevaSi 40
axalgazrda mamaka-
ci monawileobda,
maT naxevarma ori
litri ludi mii-
Ro, danarCeni maTgani sruliad fxizeli iyvnen. maT misces
sxvadasxva davalebebi. fxizel mamakacTa 40 procenti, romleb-
sac garkveuli dro hqondaT Tavsatexis amosaxsnelad, am amo-
canis Sesasruleblad 15,5 sekunds moundnen, xolo nasvamma ma-
makacebma davalebis Sesrulebas 12 sekundi moandomes.
aRmoCnda, rom alkoholi analitikur unars aaqtiurebs, is
aZlierebs SemoqmedebiT unarsac.
moamzada ana vadaWkoriam
eris naTeli momavali eklesia-monastrebis mSe-
neblobaSia, miiReT monawileoba wmida andria pir-
velwodebulis monastris mSeneblobaSi. ufali Se-
gewevaT. bednieri adamiani - morwmune adamiania.
rom gwamdes - unda daijero, rom gjerodes - unda
gindodes, madli rom moipovo - unda gsurdes. qarT-
velno, erTad RvTisaken!
RRmmeerrTTmmaa ddaaggllooccooTT ddaa ggaaggaaZZlliieerrooTT!!
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_ iTvaliswinebs Tu ara sis-
xlis samarTlis saproceso ka-
nonmdebloba ganaCenis aRsrule-
bis gadavadebas?
_ iTvaliswinebs.
sisxlis samarTlis saproce-
so kodeqsis 283-e muxlis mi-
xedviT, im msjavrdebulis mi-
marT, romelsac sasjelad dau-
niSna Tavisuflebis aRkveTa, ga-
naCenis gamomtanma sasamarTlom
saxelmwifo sasamarTlo-samedi-
cino eqspertizis daskvnis sa-
fuZvelze, imave ganaCeniT, xolo
misi gamotanis Semdeg zepiri
mosmenis gareSe, ganCinebiT, Sem-
degi safuZvlebis arsebobisas:
a) msjavrdebuli daavadebu-
lia mZime avadmyofobiT, rac
xels uSlis sasjelis moxdas,
mis gamojanmrTelebamde an jan-
mrTelobis mdgomareobis arse-
biTad gaumjobesebamde;
b) msjavrdebuli ganaCenis
aRsrulebis momentisaTvis or-
suladaa _ mSobiarobis Semdeg 1
wlamde.
ganaCenis aRsrulebis gadava-
debis sakiTxs sasamarTlo gani-
xilavs msjavrdebulis mier ad-
vokatis kanonieri warmomadgen-
lis an sasjelaRsrulebis de-
partamentis Tavmjdomaris Suam-
dgomlobiT.
* * *
_ davayeneT sakiTxi nasamar-
Tlobis moxsnaze, razec sasa-
marTlom uari gviTxra. gvaqvs
Tu ara ufleba, imave moTxovniT
mivmarToT sasamarTlos?
_ gaqvT.
nasamarTlobis moxsnaze ua-
ris Tqmis SemTxvevaSi, Suamd-
gomlobis xelaxla dayeneba Se-
iZleba mxolod 6 Tvis Semdeg.
* * *
_ sisxlis samarTlis saqme-
ze ra SemTxvevebSi dauSvebs
gansaxilvelad sakasacio saCi-
vars sakasacio sasamarTlo.
_ sakasacio sasamarTlo uf-
lebamosilia zepiri mosmenis ga-
reSe Seamowmos sakasacio saCiv-
ris dasaSveboba.
sakasacio saCivari dasaSve-
bia, Tu:
a) saqme mniSvnelovania sa-
marTlis ganviTarebisa da erTg-
varovani sasamarTlos praqtikis
CamoyalibebisaTvis;
b) saapelacio sasamarTlos
gadawyvetileba gansxvavdeba am
kategoriis saqmeebze saqarTve-
los uzenaesi sasamarTlos ma-
namde arsebuli praqtikisagan.
g) saapelacio sasamarTlom
saqme ganixila mniSvnelovani sa-
marTlebrivi an saproceso dar-
RveviT, rasac SeeZlo arsebiTad
emoqmeda saqmis ganxilvis Se-
degze.
* * *
_ SeiZleba Tu ara sakasacio
sasamarTloSi damZimdes msjavr-
debulis mdgomareoba?
_ SeiZleba.
_ sisxlis samarTlis sapro-
ceso kodeqsis 308-e muxlis me-
2 nawilis Sesabamisad, sakasa-
cio sasamarTlos ufleba aqvs,
gamamarTlebeli ganaCenis nacv-
lad gamamtyunebeli ganaCeni ga-
moitanos, gamoiyenos saqarTve-
los sisxlis samarTlis kodeq-
sis ufro mkacri muxli, daniS-
nos ufro mkacri sasjeli an
sxva gziT gaauare-
sos msjavrdebu-
lis mdgomareoba,
Tu braldebis mxa-
rem Seitana sakasa-
cio saCivari swo-
red am moTxovniT
da Tu mas aseTi
pozicia ekava pir-
veli instanciisa
da saapelacio sa-
samarTloebSi.
* * *
_ ra SemTxve-
vebSi gadaecema
sisxlis samarT-
lis saqme gansa-
xilvelad did palatas?
_ sisxlis samarTlis sapro-
ceso kodeqsis 304-e muxlis mi-
xedviT, saqarTvelos uzenaesi
sasamarTlos sisxlis samarT-
lis saqmeTa palatis saqmis gan-
mxilvel Semadgenlobas SeuZ-
lia ganCinebiT saqme gadasces
did palatas, Tu:
a) saqmis ganxilvasa da ga-
dawyvetas gansakuTrebuli mniS-
vneloba aqvs erTgvarovani sasa-
marTlo praqtikis Camoyalibebi-
saTvis;
b) saqme Tavisi SinaarsiT
warmoadgens iSviaT samarTleb-
riv problemas.
* * *
_ ra vadaSi Seitaneba saape-
lacio saCivari?
_ saapelacio saCivari Sei-
taneba ganaCenis gamomtan sasa-
marTloSi misi gamocxadebidan 1
Tvis vadaSi. (muxli 293).
`saerTo gazeTis~ iuridiuli konsultaciaCvens ubanSi erTi mivardni-
li ezodan xSirad gamodis xma-
uris, lanZRvis, xan WurWlis
msxvrevis xmac. ismis mezoble-
bis ukmayofilo buzRuni, gada-
Zaxil-gadmoZaxili, gaSveleba,
patrulic araerTxel gamoCeni-
la, mogvardeba saqme, meore
dRes Wor-marTalis garCeva mi-
dis. “cxadia, bunagia, svamen. _
ambobs erTi, _ elisom moiyvana
Tavisnairebi da gaabes sma, qa-
lebs Sexede, qalebs, kacebi ar
gamodian maqedan iseTi mTvra-
lebi, rogorc eseni...” Cawynar-
deba situacia, gadis dro, isev
meordeba msgavsi scenebi.
es erT-erT ubanSi xdeba,
magram msgavsi TavSeyris adgi-
lebi Zalian mravladaa, risi
erTaderTi mizezic dalevaa.
Cven am SemTxvevaSi, yuradRebas
gavamaxvilebT qalur alkoho-
lizmze, rac erTob aqtualu-
ria Cvens qveyanaSi.
30-40 wlis mamakacebis Ta-
obas Tavs gadaxda samamulo da
samoqalaqo omebi, ramac masiu-
ri ganarkomaneba, galoTeba da
aTasi sxva ubedureba gamoiwvia,
riTac pirveli didi dartyma
miiRo Cvenma genofondma, magram
jerjerobiT xmamaRla ar lapa-
rakoben qaluri alkoholizmis
Sesaxeb. sasmels etanebian 30-
40 wlis qalebi, umcrosi Tao-
bac. mizezi, umetes SemTxvevaSi,
pirad cxovrebaSi Seqmnili
problemebia. ar umarTlebs
qals da sasmelSi klavs dards.
davubrundebi isev Cems ubnels:
`_ eliso, nuRar dalev, iq-
neb SeeSva”, _ eubneba erT_er-
Ti keTilismsurveli.
`_ eh, ra dros Wkuis dari-
gebaa, gviania, _ pasuxobs is
naRvliani TvalebiT. amas ra
sjobia. _ boTlze miuTiTebs.
es rom ara, cocxali aRar viq-
nebodi. xom ici, 14 wlisa viya-
vi, roca Semiyvarda. dRemde
miyvars. mogonebebiT vcxov-
rob. roca grZnobiTve mipa-
suxa, Cemze bednieri aravin
iyo. gavida wlebi Sexved-
rebSi, imaze ocnebebsa da
gegmebSi, rogori coli
viqnebodi. dedamisma ar da-
uSva Cveni qorwineba. raRac
idealur rZals eZebda.
amitom davrCi ase. iman mo-
iyvana coli. dedamTilis
imedebi rogor gaamarTla,
ar vici, magram amiTi me ra!
mere Cems ojaxSi daiwyo
problemebi. mama dameRupa,
dedam da naTesavebma qmari, pat-
roni gindao. gamiriges viRac.
ori weli vicxovre masTan. ver
Seviyvare, davSordiT. am daSo-
rebam is moitana, rom Sevxvdi
Cems colian Seyvarebuls da
masTan ganvaaxle urTierToba.
is cols Ralatobda, magram
CemTvis sul erTi iyo yvelafe-
ri. sayvarlebi gavxdiT da ami-
Tac uzomod bednieri viyavi.
arc es gagrZelebula didxans.
colma gaigo Cveni urTierTo-
bis ambavi, rasac skandali moh-
yva. davrCi isev marto. veRara-
vin miekara Cems guls. vmuSaob-
di, gaviCine nacnoboba. bevri
vnaxe Cemnairi ubeduri, vikribe-
bodiT, vsvamdiT, vuziarebdiT
erTmaneTs gulisnadebs. ase ga-
vida dro da SeveCvie am oxers.
Cemi megobrebi Cems Tvalwin
berdebian, feri ekargebaT, Tva-
lebi ucvivdebaT. maT saxeSi
Cems Tavs vxedav. sarkeSi Caxed-
va aRar minda. ra iqneboda gam-
marTleboda, myoloda kargi
qmari, is, vinc meyvareboda”, _
xris, Tvalebs, cremlebi mos-
dis, Wiqas etaneba. es xom araa
gamosavali, _ veubnebiT, Tavi
unda aiyvano xelSi, ra ici, mo-
mavalSi ra gelodeba. azri ar
aqvs, ar gvismens.
`Cemi klaseli daRupula”,
_ meubneba nac-
nobi qali, _
“quCaSi ipoves.
aRarc Svilebi
aqcevdnen yu-
radRebas. qmarma
adre miatova.
wlebis mere Se-
uyvarda viRac,
erT weliwadSi
isic gaqra. Amas
meore mohyva.
xom ici, qali
bednierebas eZebs, xan riskze
wasvlac sWirdeba da bolos ra
gamodis? hoda, ase gaqra yvela
misi cxovrebidan, darCa sasme-
li. mikvirs, Svilebma rogorRa
hkres xeli. gavige, sadac aris
dasaflavebuli, vnaxe saflavi.
vitire. is xom marTlac kargi
adamiani iyo. netavi, axlos vyo-
filiyavi masTan, ramden rames
vetyodi, iqneb gadamerCina.”
`_ vsvam da es CemTvis bed-
nierebaa, _ meubneba qali areu-
li TvalebiT. arc minda SeveS-
va. fxizeli gaborotebuli var,
mTvrali bednieri. vzivar ram-
denime megobarTan erTad saRa-
moobiT (iseTebTan, “sabutilni-
kebs” rom eZaxian) vsvam da ve-
lodebi viRacas. Cemi kari sul
Riaa. ramdenime wlis win didi
siyvaruli mewvia. arc mirekav-
da, kars Rias vtovebdi da Se-
modioda, icoda, rom velodebo-
di. erT dResac damTavrda Cemi
bedniereba. aRar Semosula.
gavsuleldi, kidev gavaRe kari,
roca megona, rom yvelaferi
kargisken Seicvleboda da gam-
qurda Cemma axalma Seyvarebul-
ma. mere kidev sxvam aqeT moin-
doma Cemi binis bunagad gamoye-
neba... gamityda guli, miveZale
sasmels, miqarvebda dards. vzi-
varT ase saRamoobiT da vsvamT,
magram Cemi kari isev Riaa, ax-
la aravin miyvars da arc ara-
vis vuyvarvar (mgoni, arc vyva-
rebivar), magram mainc velode-
bi. xan gaborotebuli Sevyureb,
nasvami roca var _ imedianad.
Tu vinme moxurvas moindomebs,
veCxubebi. iyos Ria.”
qaluri alkoholizmi arc
sazRvargareTaa ucxo da bevri
qveynisTvis moZvelebuli prob-
lema gaxlavT, magram Cvens de-
mografiul mdgomareobas lax-
variviT urtyams. procesi 90-
ian wlebSi gamwvavda. erT-erT
raionSi viyavi naTesavTan stum-
rad da mezobeli qali damxvda
galoTebuli. bavSvebs Turme qa-
tos aWmevda, puri rom ar moe-
povebodaT. mogexsenebaT, jer
qalaqSi ra iyo da provincieb-
ma xom namdvili jojoxeTi ga-
moiares. am cota xnis win kidev
vinaxule, momiyva maSindeli am-
bebi: “vijeqi uSuqo grZel Ra-
meebSi, Tu raime saWmelad var-
gisi iyo, bavSvebs vunaxavdiT,
me cotas Tu wavkiknidi rames,
magram, samagierod, gvqonda Rvi-
no. es miklavda SimSils da
dards mimsubuqebda. miveZale,
miveCvie da mere, roca cota ga-
mosworda mdgomareoba, wlebi
damWirda, rom cxovrebis nor-
malur kalapots davbrunebodi.
gavaanalize Cemi situacia, aviy-
vane Tavi xelSi, Svi-
lebmac moaxdines gav-
lena. yvela qals vur-
Cev: rac ar unda mox-
des, ar mieZalos alko-
hols, araa gamosavali.
arc dards CagiklavT,
Tu droebiT Segimsubu-
qebT, aTmagad uaresad
mogibrundebaT.”
gavavloT paraleli:
90-ian wlebSi gausaZ-
lisma pirobebma miiyvana
bevri aqamde. arc axlaa
ayvavebuli Cveni qveyana,
magram qalebisTvis alkoholiz-
mis mizezi, ZiriTadad, piradu-
li warumateblobaa. ar aqvs
mniSvneloba fenas, sazogadoe-
bas. yvelgan SexvdebiT aseT su-
raTs da saSiSroeba dRiTi dRe
izrdeba. isev Tanamedrove qarT-
veli qalis problemebamde mive-
diT. alkoholizmi Zalian aqtu-
aluri da mwvavea saqarTvelos-
Tvis, roca isedac aTasgvari
xerxebiT da gzebiT xeli ewyo-
ba qarTuli genis ganadgurebas.
iyaviT fxizlad.
Tamuna qadagiZe
kidev erTi dartyma
qarTul genofonds
qaluri alkoholizmi _
24 saerTo gazeTi #34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.28C M Y K
agvisto, 2008 weli