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C M Y K petre mamraZe: biZina ivaniSvili: #34 (218) 8-14.VIII.2012 weli gamodis yovel oTxSabaTs www.saertogazeti.net; E-mail: [email protected] fasi 1 lari me da Tqven erTad SevZlebT da arCevnebiT SevcvliT am xelisuflebas!!! `CixSi moqceul qveyanas gadarCenisa da ganviTarebis perspeqtiva gauCnda~ Cems megobrebs pirdapir uTxres: asi piradobis mowmoba mogvitaneT da 5000 lars mogcemTo `nacionalur moZraobas~ ruseTTan konfliqti SesaZloa imisTvis dasWirdes, rom arCevnebi CaSalos! saakaSvils undoda aTaTurqi an petre I gamxdariyo, magram bolos caxes cinoberad iqca... zaza SaTiriSvili: paata xizanaSvili: jaba jiSkariani: ramaz sayvareliZe: xelisufleba male gamorekavs agvistos cxeli Rameebidan `jaSuS koWoiebs~, romlebic TiTs biZina ivaniSvilisken gaiSveren... miSas da Salvas erTi naTlia xom ar hyavT _ rusi da Tanac `kagebeSniki?~ darwmunebuli var, `nacionalebi~ arCevnebSi `qarTul ocnebas~ ocdaaT procentze mets ar `gamouweren~, riTac qveyanas samoqalaqo dapirispirebisTvis wiraven...

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Page 1: 14.VIII.2012 weli gamodis yovel oTxSabaTs ...doebis mier 16 ivliss SemoTa-vazebul 17 punqtian dokument-sac da aiRo masSi mocemuli principebisa da qcevis wesebis dacvis valdebule-ba

C M Y K

petre mamraZe:

biZina ivaniSvili:#34 (218) 8-14.VIII.2012 weli gamodis yovel oTxSabaTs www.saertogazeti.net; E-mail: [email protected] fasi 1 lari

me da Tqven erTadSevZlebT da arCevnebiT

SevcvliT am xelisuflebas!!!

`CixSi moqceul qveyanas

gadarCenisa da ganviTarebis

perspeqtiva gauCnda~

Cems megobrebs pirdapir uTxres: asi piradobis

mowmoba mogvitaneT da 5000 lars

mogcemTo

`nacionalur moZraobas~ ruseTTan

konfliqti SesaZloa imisTvis

dasWirdes, rom arCevnebi CaSalos!

saakaSvils undoda aTaTurqi an petre I gamxdariyo, magram bolos caxes cinoberad iqca...

zaza SaTiriSvili:

paata xizanaSvili: jaba jiSkariani: ramaz sayvareliZe:

xelisufleba male gamorekavsagvistos cxeli Rameebidan `jaSuS koWoiebs~, romlebicTiTs biZina ivaniSvilisken gaiSveren...

miSas da Salvas erTi naTlia xom ar hyavT _ rusi da Tanac`kagebeSniki?~

darwmunebuli var, `nacionalebi~ arCevnebSi `qarTul ocnebas~

ocdaaT procentze mets ar `gamouweren~,riTac qveyanas samoqalaqo

dapirispirebisTvis wiraven...

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saerTo gazeTi #34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.2

gazeTi xxelmZRvanelobs TTavisufali ppresis pprincipiT.SesaZloa, aavtoris ppozicia aar eeTanxmebodes rredaqciis aazrs.informaciis ssizusteze ppasuxismgebelia aavtori. ggasaCivrebaSesaZlebelia mmasalis ggamoqveynebidan eerTi kkviris vvadaSi.

Semosuli mmasalebi aavtorebs aar uubrundeba.aamm nniiSSnniiTT aaRRnniiSSnnuulliiaa ssaarreekkllaammoo mmaassaalleebbii..

`saerTo gazeTi~mmTTaavvaarrii rreeddaaqqttoorrii:: vvaaxxttaanngg xxaarrCCiillaavvaa

gamomcemeli: Sps sagamomcemlo centri `saerTo sityva~

mmiiss:: TTbbiilliissii,, aaRRmmaaSSeenneebblliiss 116644;;

tteell..:: 22 1144 4400 1199;; 22 3344 2288 9977

rreeggiisstt.. ##220022337755334499;; uak (UDC) 070.23 (479.22) s-1158

_ ki, batono, Tqveni

nebaa, me, rogorc poli-

tikosi, nu mogwonvarT,

magram erTmaneTis mosmena

xom unda SegveZlos. sir-

cxvilia es... Cven xom oc-

daaTi saukunis istoria

gvaqvs? _ eubneboda biZi-

na ivaniSvili saakaSvilis

mxardamWer axalgazrdebs,

romlebic `miSa~! _ `mi-

Sa~-ss skandirebiT da uxerxuli replikebiT

cdilobdnen xeli SeeSalaT misTvis.

batoni biZina mxolod imiT ki ar Canda

Sewuxebuli, rom mas uSlidnen xels, aramed

ufro imiT, rom es axalgazrdebi cudad iq-

ceodnen da imdenad gulwrfeli iyo es wu-

xili, momeCvena, rom es ymawvilebic mixvd-

nen amas da, mgoni, cotaTi TviTonac Sewux-

dnen.

_ Tqveni brali ar aris es, ase rom iq-

ceviT. es im erTi kacis bralia... qarTvele-

bi varT Cven yvelani, sircxvilia, erTmane-

Tis mosmena rom ar SegviZlia... modiT, dame-

laparakeT, _ am sityvebiT xSirad mimarTavs

xolme biZina ivaniSvili im `politikur de-

sants~, romelsac xelisufleba xan sad Ca-

asafrebs da xan _ sad.

am agresiulad ganwyobil adamianebs biZi-

na ivaniSvili, rogorc wesi, keTilganwyobas

axvedrebs.

xelisufleba Tavisianebad da sxvisiane-

bad hyofs da xleCs sazogadoebas, ivaniSvi-

li xazgasmiT ambobs, rom misTvis yvela Ta-

visiania, maT Soris isinic, romlebic mas

upirispirdebian, cils swameben, Seuracxyo-

fen.

xelisuflebisTvis gansxvavebuli azris

mqone adamiani mteria, romelic unda gala-

xo, gaanadguro, daiWiro, ivaniSvilisTvis

_ moyvare, romelsac, pirvel rigSi, Tanad-

gomiT, TanagrZnobiT, siyvaruliT unda moeq-

ce da Seecado, mcdari azri Seacvlevino.

es ori poziciaa, ori sxvadasxva msofl-

mxedvelobaa, aqedan erTi Rrmad qristianu-

lia, meore Rrmad antiqristianuli.

saqarTvelos amJamindeli xelisuflebis

tragedia isaa, rom am qristianuli qveynis

marTvas araqristianuli meTodebiT cdi-

lobs, es ki imis tolfasia, rom mTeli qvey-

nis mosaxleobas zne da xasiaTi Seucvalo,

suli Seucvalo, guli Seucvalo, ocdaaTsa-

ukunovan istorias xazi gadausva da _ ager,

2003 wlidan, iwyebi Sen, manamde ar yofil-

xaro, _ uTxra.

SecdomaSi Seyvanilni, nacdunebni, monus-

xulni da zombirebulni, adre Tu gvian,

aucileblad gamovlen am buranidan da auci-

leblad mixvdebian, rom adamianis cud Tvi-

sebaTagan yvelaze cudi da saTakilo Tvise-

ba siZulvilia, ara marto saTakilo, aramed

TviT im adamianisTvis yvelaze saSiSi da sa-

xifaTo, romelsac sZuls, radgan siZulvi-

li, pirvel rigSi, swored mas anadgurebs,

vinc siZulvilis demonur nebas emorCileba.

siZulvili TviTganadgurebaa, siyvaruli

_ xsna.

siZulvili hyofs da TiSavs, siyvaruli

_ aerTianebs...

vaxtang xarCilava

redaqtoris sveti

veTanxmebiT mosazrebas, rom sasamarTlos mier `a-

lia holdingisTvis~ 50 000 laris dakisreba fi-

nansuri teroris gziT mediis winaaRmdeg brZolis

axali xerxia.

rogorc `solidaroba mediis TavisuflebisTvis~

acxadebs, `am Tanxis gadaxda araTu finansur prob-

lemebs Seuqmnis holdings, aramed gazeTebi `alia~

da `qronika~ saerTod Sewyveten arsebobas.~

vfiqrobT, sasamarTlos mier holdingisTvis da-

kisrebuli jarima ufro politikuri gadawyvetilebaa, vidre faqtebze damyarebuli sa-

marTliani da miukerZoebeli sasamarTlo ganCineba.

`saerTo gazeTi~

„SesaZloa, maJoritarebis gadaadgileba an cvlileba ganvaxorcie-

loT,“- ganacxada „qarTuli ocnebis“ presspikerma maia fanjikiZem tra-

diciul brifingze.

misi TqmiT, maJoritarebis kandidatebis saboloo siis wardgena ar-

Cevnebamde 30 dRiT adre unda moxdes. Sesabamisad, am vadaSi SesaZloa,

rame gadaadgilebebi gakeTdes.

„Cven Zalian adre daviwyeT maJoritarebis gamocxadeba. muSaobis pro-

cesSi SesaZloa aRmoCndes, rom viRacebi ufro saWiro sxvagan arian. Se-

saZloa, romelime maJoritarma saarCevno siaSi gadainacvlos, an - pi-

riqiT. amaSi sagangaSos da skandalurs verafers vxedav,“- ganacxada maia

fanjikiZem.

koalicia „qarTuli ocnebis“

erT-erTi lideris kaxa kalaZis

gancxadebiT, qarTveli “samarTal-

damcavebis” nawili da “Tavisufa-

li mediis” warmomadgenlebi sru-

liad sxva saxis, maTTvis damaxasi-

aTebeli uniWo, magram, rac mTava-

ria binZuri, Savi piaris axal gi-

gantur talRas agoreben Cemze ara

rogorc koaliciis liderze, ara-

med rogorc pirovnebaze, adamian-

ze.

amis Sesaxeb kaxa kalaZem so-

cialur qsel „feisbukSi“ Tavis

gverdze ganacxada.

„Cemo megobrebo, dRevandeli

kriminaluri reJimis warmomadgen-

lebis uSret fantazias, sazRvari

ara aqvs. wlebis manZilze naciona-

luri arxebis, sodis da kudis er-

Toblivad ganxorcielebulma Savma

piarma ar imuSava da sazogadoeba

ver daajeres, rom var cudi,

uRirsi adamiani. Tumca qarTveli

“samarTaldamcavebis” nawili da

“Tavisufali mediis” warmomadgen-

lebi amas ar dajerdnen da axla

sruliad sxva saxis, maTTvis dama-

xasiaTebeli uniWo, magram rac

mTavaria binZuri, Savi piaris axal

gigantur talRas agoreben ara

rogorc koaliciis liderze, ara-

med rogorc pirovnebaze, adamian-

ze,“ _ aRniSna kalaZem.

vinc aRniSnuli avantiura da-

gegma an iRebs monawileobas, minda

vuTxra, rom arsebobs morali da

agreTve arsebobs kanoni, maT mou-

wevT am ori faqtoris gaTvalis-

wineba. SesaZloa dRes ara, magram

uaxloes momavalSi aucileblad.

_ ganacxada kalaZem.

koalicia “qarTuli ocneba”

kidev erTxel adasturebs Tavis

erTgulebas samarTliani da Ta-

visufali arCevnebis ZiriTadi

principebisadmi, maT Soris, sa-

arCevno kampaniisa da arCevnebis

Sedegebis dadgenis procesSi

Zaladobrivi da antikonstitu-

ciuri qmedebebis dauSveblobi-

sadmi. am suliskveTebidan ga-

momdinare, koalicia upirobod

SeuerTda samoqalaqo sazoga-

doebis mier 16 ivliss SemoTa-

vazebul 17 punqtian dokument-

sac da aiRo masSi mocemuli

principebisa da qcevis wesebis dacvis valdebule-

ba.

amasTanave, koalicia “qarTuli ocnebis” SeSfo-

Tebas iwvevs mmarTveli partiis mxridan aRniSnu-

li qcevis wesebis sistematuri

darRveva. kerZod, bolo dReeb-

Si aWaraSi kvlav dafiqsirda

xelisuflebis warmomadgenelTa

mxridan samoqalaqo dapirispi-

rebis gaRvivebisa da axalgazr-

debis danaSaulebriv qmedebaSi

CaTrevis mcdeloba.

mivmarTavT qarTul da saer-

TaSoriso sadamkvirveblo orga-

nizaciebs, droulad da srul-

yofilad Seiswavlon aRniSnuli

faqtebi da obieqturi Sefaseba

miscen momxdars. Cven mzad varT

viTanamSromloT yvela dainte-

resebul organizaciasTan da mivawodoT Cvens

xelT arsebuli sruli informacia aRniSnul mov-

lenebTan dakavSirebiT.

6 agvisto, 2012

koalicia `qarTuli ocnebis~ gancxadeba

maia ffanjikiZe: SSesaZloa, mmaJoritarebis gadaadgileba aan ccvlileba gganvaxorcieloT

kaxa kkalaZe: `̀Tavisufali mmedia~ CCemze, rrogorcadamianze, SSavi ppiaris ggigantur ttalRas aagorebs

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3#34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi

gadawyda _ 1 oqtomberi arCev-

nebis dRea!

guli migrZnobs, `nacmoZraoba-

sa~ da saakaSvilis garemocvaSi vi-

Rac-viRacebis Tavebi dagordeba.

vinc saakaSvils urCia, arCevne-

bi 1 oqtombers daniSneo, imaT Ta-

vebs vgulisxmob.

rogorc gairkva, 1 oqtobers bi-

Zina ColoyaSvilis xsenebis dRea,

anu biZinaobaa.

hoda, vinc saakaSvili Secdoma-

Si Seiyvana da arCevnebi 1 oqtom-

bers, biZinaobis dRes daaniSvnina,

imaTi saqme wasulia!

erTi wuTiT yuradReba moaduna

kacma da imwamsve Ziri gamouTxares;

aqamde yvelaferi cno-

bili mCxibavebis, magebis,

astrologebis mier zus-

tad gaTvlil TariRebze

iyo agebuli, axla ki am 1

oqtombriT yvelaferi da-

ingra da xuxulasaviT Ca-

moiSala.

_ ra eSveleba axla am

saqmes? _ bWoben `nacmoZ-

raobis~ StabSi.

_ ra eSveleba da gavauq-

moT es TariRi da arCevnebi

sxva dros davniSnoT, _ uT-

qvams erTs.

_ ar gamova es ambavi...

ras ityvis demokratiuli

Tanamegobroba? didi skanda-

li atydeba... _ uarze damd-

garan sxvebi.

_ ar gavkari demokrati-

ul Tanamegobrobas? ra

dros eg aris, ver xedavT,

viRupebiT? _ wamomxtara

`nacmoZraobis~ klei kakuna

boboqriZe da gamwarebuls

muStis erTi dartymiT, Zirs

daugdia nacebis piradi naTel-

mxilveli nasral nacariZe _

sul am nabiWvris bralia yve-

laferi, `paxmeliaze~ ricxvebi

auria erTmaneTSi da amitom

amovarda es wyeuli 1 oqtombe-

ri cxrilidan... davcxrilav ax-

la am ubedurs, _ ver SoSmin-

deboda boboqriZe da xels mar-

jvena ukanalze ifaTurebda _

aqaoda, pistoleti unda davaZ-

roo.

mokled rom vTqvaT, `nac-

moZraobaSi~ didi ayalmayali

da didi daka-dakaa.

SeiZleba arCevnebis dRe

marTla Seicvalos, an `nacmoZ-

raobam~ raRac moimizezos da

arCevnebs saerTod boikoti ga-

moucxados.

aba, ra qnan, 1 oqtombers,

biZinobaze, eseni biZina ivaniS-

vilisTvis arCevnebis momgebi

ar arian da Tavs xom ar Seir-

cxvenen sajarod?

_ erTi Samfuri (mwvadi), erTi pomido-

ri da erTi kitri TiToeul Cvens mxar-

damWers! _ aseTi deviziT Caatara qdm-m

amomrCevlebTan Sexvedra kaxeTSi.

Sexvedram didi warmatebiT Caiara _

drois umokles vadaSi aTvisebuli iqna

aTasobiT Samfuri, aTasobiT pomidori,

aTasobiT kitri, dailia ramdenime kasri

Rvino, gansxvavebuli sasmisebiT Seisva

`qdm~-s mamis (g.TargamaZe) qdm-s dedis

(i.grigolia) `qdm~-s ded-mamiSvilebis

(`nacmoZraoba~, `axlebi~, `edp-s~) `qdm~-s

biZaSvil-mamidaSvilebis (Sss, uSs) `qdm~-

s gare biZaSvilebis (`endiai~, `airai~)

sadRegrZeloebi.

rogorc `qdm~-s erT-erTma liderma ga-

nacxada, isini aseTive saxis RonisZiebebis

(koduri saxelwodebiT `sma-Wama didad

Sesargi~) gamarTvas apireben saqarTvelos sxva regioneb-

Sic, xolo arCevnebis dRes, 1 oqtombers, TiToeul sa-

arCevno ubanTan gaixsneba swrafi kvebis obieqti abriT _

`ufaso sma-Wama qdm-s mxardamWerebisTvis. danarCenebma

iocnebeT.~

Tu gaviTvaliswinebT im ambavs, rom saqarTvelos mo-

saxleobis did nawils (siRaribis zRvars qvemoT mcx-

ovrebi milionamde adamiani) mwvadis gemo wlebia ar ga-

usinjavs, mosalodnelia, rom qdm-m amomrCevelTa serio-

zuli raodenoba miizidos qedemur sufraze.

visi Tavebi dagordeba `nacmoZraobasa~ da

saakaSvilis garemocvaSi!

`sma-Wama didad Sesargi~

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4 saerTo gazeTi #34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.

mogesalmebiT, Cemo baTumelebo! moge-

salmebi, Cemo aWara!

minda didi madloba gadagixadoT aq

SekrebisTvis.

mivesalmebi qedas, xulos, Suaxevs,

qobuleTs, xelvaCaurs, baTums!

mivesalmebi mTel saqarTvelos!

dRes Cven saqarTvelos karibWed

qcul miwaze vdagavarT, romelsac vin

mosTvlis ramdeni Wir-varami gadaxdenia

Tavs!

didi imperiebis WidilSi aWara yo-

velTvis samSoblos, saqarTvelos erT-

guli iyo; xSirad sakuTar qveyanas

mowyvetili, Cumad gulSi qarTvelobas

inaxavda da ucxoelebis qveSvevrdomobas

arasodes Sehguebia.

aq erovnul cnobierebas ise Rrmad

hqonda fesvebi gadgmuli, rom samSob-

los erTguleba da siyvaruli erTi

wuTiTac ar ganelebula.

ai, amitomaa, rom aq, aWaraSi, gansa-

kuTrebuli simZafriT igrZnoba qarTve-

loba, saqarTvelos siyvaruli da erT-

guleba!

aWara iseT drosac moeswro, rode-

sac saxelmwifo sazRvrebi ise gauvles,

rom erT sofelSi mosaxle Zmebidan er-

Ti saqarTveloSi darCa, meore ki sazR-

vris gadaRma aRmoCnda. isini simReriT

exmianebodnen da ise atyobinebdnen Tavis

saTqmels erTmaneTs. aWaram am gansac-

delsac Rirseulad gauZlo!

gansakuTrebulia am kuTxis Rvawli

Cveni qveynis, saqristiano da samusli-

mano saqarTvelos, mTlianobis SenarCu-

nebasa da saboloo gaerTianebaSi.

rodesac saqarTvelos mTlianoba iyo

gadasarCeni, aravin arCevda, vin iyo

qristiani da vin - muslimani.

me kargad vici, axla Tqvens gulSi

ra cecxlic trialebs. es cecxli saxi-

faToc aris da samarTlianic. swored

samarTlianobis gamoa is gansakuTrebu-

lad saSiSi. tyuilis, usamarTlobisa da

ukanonobis gamoa is danTebuli Tqvens

gulSi.

Tqven tyuilisgan Tavisufal, simar-

Tlesa da kanonierebaze aSenebul qveya-

nas imsaxurebT. da axla, saqarTveloSi

simarTlis, samarTlianobis dro modis!

arada, swored simarTles upirispir-

deba es xelisufleba da yvelgan tyu-

ils Tesavs. tyuili da ciliswameba ma-

Ti yvelaze sayvareli iaraRia. mec ram-

deni ram damabrales, rac politikaSi

Semovdgi fexi. isic ki damabrales, rom

me, Turme, sabWoTa kavSiri menatreba.

me kargad maxsovs sabWoTa kavSiri,

romelic sayovelTao, totaluri tyui-

lis imperia iyo - es iyo meqrTameobisa

da daxls qvemoT gadanaxuli sindisis

qveyana, qveyana, sadac kargad cxovreba

mxolod kompromisebs da gaiZverobas

mohqonda.

sabWouri azrovneba dRemde cocxa-

lia da sazogadoebis ganviTarebasac

swored es abrkolebs. diax, swored

tyuili, TvalTmaqcoba da farisevloba

iyo sabWoeTis namdvili, realuri ideo-

logia, romelic adamianebs aiZulebda,

erTi efiqraT, meore elaparakaT da me-

same ekeTebinaT.

nacionaluri xelisufleba gaWrili

vaSliviT hgavs Tavis sabWoTa winamor-

beds, ufro zustad, winapars.

daakvirdiT saakaSvils, daakvirdiT

saakaSvilis xelisuflebas da uzustes

msgavsebas ipoviT sabWoTa xelisufle-

basTan.

saakaSvili gaafTrebiT gahkivis

yvelgan, meti saqme ar maqvs, es qveyana

vinme sxvas gadavabaro da davangrevinoo.

me ar vici arc erTi sxva qveynis xe-

lisufleba, romelic ase daufaravad ga-

bedavda imis sajarod gacxadebas, rom

arsad ar apirebs wasvlas, ar apirebs

Tavisi nebiT xelisuflebis xalxisTvis

gadabarebas. me ar vici amis sajarod

mTqmeli arc erTi xelisufleba, sabWo-

Ta xelisuflebis garda.

Tavisi winapariviT am xelisuflebis

ideologiac tyuilzea agebuli, xolo

sabWouri meqrTameoba elitaruli ko-

rufciiT aris Canacvlebuli.

ori-sami kaci Tavisi neba-surviliT

gankargavs saxelmwifo biujets da ara

marto biujets. saakaSvilis, merabiSvi-

lis, adeiSvilis xelSia yvela safinan-

so nakadi, rac ki qveyanaSi trialebs.

ai, aseTi xelisufleba mdebs me

brals sabWouri cxovrebis nostalgia-

Si. arc es tyuili gauva, radgan yvelam

kargad icis, rom Cemi warmateba swored

iman ganapiroba, rom sabWoeTs moeRo bo-

lo.

es xelisufleba mdebs brals imaSi,

rom me ruseTis Semoyvana minda. ai, amas

mabralebs me xelisufleba da amas gah-

kivian mis mier dageSili adamianebi. mag-

ram swored am xelisuflebis meTaurma,

saakaSvilma, Tavis ugunuri politikiT,

ukve Semoiyvana rusis jari saqarTvelos

teritoriaze, da es rom asea, amis das-

turia Cveni okupirebuli teritoriebi,

iq mdgari ruseTis jari da asobiT da-

karguli qarTuli sofeli.

Cven davasrulebT saqarTveloSi

sabWoeTis epoqas, tyuilis epoqas! eli-

taruli korufciis epoqas! usamarTlo-

bisa da unamusobis epoqas! saqarTvelo-

Si patiosnebis dro modis!

Cvens qveyanas dRes bevri ram sWir-

deba, Tumca arc imdeni, rom misi welSi

gamarTva ver SevZloT. pirvel rigSi,

unda aRvadginoT wonasworoba, romelic

ukiduresad darRveulia dRes saqarTve-

los samarTlebriv, ekonomikur da soci-

alur cxovrebaSi.

Cemo qarTvelebo! yvelani vxedavT,

rom Cveni qveyana sadacaa Tavze dagveq-

ceva. gansakuTrebiT aSkaraa es safrTxe

aq, aWaraSi, da me mimaCnia, rom saqarT-

velos bedi dRes swored aq, aWaraSi, ba-

TumSi wydeba.

baTumi yovelTvis gansakuTrebuli

qalaqi iyo yvela CvenganisaTvis, gansa-

kuTrebuli kulturis mqone, baTums Ta-

viseburi suli da ganumeorebeli xib-

li hqonda. yvelas aseTi gviyvarda, Ta-

visi arqiteqturiT, Tavisi sisadaviT.

dasanania, rom udidesi Tanxa, rome-

lic xelisuflebam baTumSi axal mSeneb-

lobebze daxarja, sabolood, ara imde-

nad mosaxleobis keTildReobas emsaxu-

reba, ramdenadac erTi kacis komfortsa

da pativmoyvareobas.

gana ar SeiZleba aSeno ise, rom qa-

laqis mosaxleoba ar daazaralo, ar da-

aziano baTumis istoriuli ier-saxe da

ganumeorebeli koloriti, tlanqad ar

Caerio urbanul struqturaSi da pri-

mitiuli, ugemovno mimbaZvelobis maga-

liTebi ar dautovo STamomavlobas?! ga-

na ar SeiZleboda es saqme migvendo pro-

fesionalebisTvis da baTumi erTi kacis

ambiciebisa da fantaziebis poligonad

ar gadaqceuliyo?!

kargia, Tu sadme daigo gzebi, magram

wyalgayvaniloba da kanalizacia rom

kvlav mouwesrigebelia, wuxandelma wvi-

mamac dagvanaxa.

dasanania, rom ukontrolod daxar-

julma milionebma, romelic aseT gau-

azrebel da usistemo ganaSenianebas mox-

marda, mosaxleobas, TiToeul Tqvengans,

veranairi sargebeli ver moutana.

danaSaulia, rom saqarTvelos am uZ-

velesi da ulamazesi kuTxisaTvis xeli-

suflebam ver moifiqra sxva funqcia, ka-

zinoebisa da naxevrad legaluri saros-

kipoebis garda.

baTumSi, rogorc yvela zRvispira

qalaqSi, mravali erovnebisa da sarwmu-

noebis adamiani cxovrobs; asea ukve mra-

vali weli da ar yofila maT Soris arc

erTi dapirispireba, an Tundac sul mci-

re gaugebroba nacionalur an religiur

niadagze. Cven xom tolerantobas da me-

gobrobas veravin gvaswavlis.

megobrobis garda, Cven kargi mezob-

lobac viciT. TurqeTi Cveni mezobelia,

natos wevri qveyanaa. masTan Cven stra-

tegiuli partnioroba, keTilmezobluri

urTierToba gvakavSirebs. yvelas gvax-

sovs is sikeTe, romelic 90-iani wle-

bis dasawyisSi TurqeTTan sazRvris gax-

snam mogvitana.

am xelisuflebam, romelic Tavisi

Zalauflebisa da keTildReobisTvis

ukan araferze ixevs, gaugonari viTareba

Seqmna qveyanaSi, gansakuTrebiT ki, aWara-

Si. xelisufleba Tavisi moqalaqeebis mi-

marT aSkarad diskriminaciulad moqme-

debs.

investiciebis xelSewyoba Zalian

kargia, magram es araviTar SemTxvevaSi

ar unda xdebodes sakuTari moqalaqeebis

xarjze. arc erTi Tavmoyvare saxelmwi-

fo ase ar iqceva, arc dasavleTSi da

arc aRmosavleTSi.

samarcxvinoa nebismieri qveynisTvis,

rom misi maRalkvalificiuri moqalaqe-

ebi mezobel qveyanaSi lukma-purisTvis

gadaxvewilebi, maTTvis Seuferebel, Sav

samuSaos asruleben warmoudgenlad mci-

re anazRaurebis fasad.

magram, kidev ufro samarcxvinoa, ro-

desac Seni qveynis moqalaqeebi sruliad

daumsaxurebelad diskriminaciul mdgo-

mareobaSi arian aq, mSobliur miwaze!

Cven SevcvliT Sromis kodeqss ise,

rom arc erT damqiravebels aRar SeeZ-

los daqiravebulis uflebebis Selaxva.

Cven aRvadgenT samarTlebriv da ufleb-

riv wonasworobas damqiravebelsa da da-

qiravebuls Soris. veRaravin gabedavs

Cveni moqalaqis an stumris daCagvras da

Seuracxyofas! es damTavrdeba! amis

sityvas me gaZlevT!

me Tavidanve giTxariT, rom am ums-

gavsobas Cven usaTuod movuvliT, da

rac SeiZleba swrafad! gpirdebiT!

ucnauri qalaqia baTumi. baTumi wvi-

mas uyvars. aseve uyvars baTumi mTel sa-

qarTvelos... es arcaa gasakviri, saqarT-

biZina ivaniSvilisgamosvlis teqsti 5 agvistos aqciaze, baTumSi

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velo xom zRvispira qveyanaa.

xolo Savi yavis surneliT

mTvrali baTumi Cveni zRvispi-

reTis mTavari qalaqia. igi

cremlnarevi Rimilia saqarTve-

los pirisaxeze!

Tqven, baTumelebo, amayad da

Tavisuflad ivliT baTumis qu-

CebSi da Tqven iqnebiT am qala-

qis baton-patroni, da aravin

iqneba Tqveni metoqe wvimis

garda...

aqve vaxseneb kidev erT gau-

gebrobas, romelSic Tqven xe-

lisuflebam gagxviaT. xalxo,

Cven xom viciT, rom religiuri

Semwynarebloba qarTuli tra-

diciis erT-erTi saukeTeso da

uZvelesi nawilia.

viciT isic, rom aRmsareb-

lobis Tavisufleba xelSeuxebe-

li unda iyos samarTlian da de-

mokratiul saxelmwifoSi. ami-

tom mxolod unda gveamayebodes

is, rom qristianuli eklesiebis

gverdiT saqarTveloSi dRes

muslimanuri meCeTebi moqmedebs.

Cvens qveyanaSi qristianebma

da muslimanebma erTmaneTis

gverdiT Tanasworad da Rirse-

ulad unda icxovron. me vici,

rom Tqven ara morigi meCeTis

aSeneba gaSfoTebT, aramed Tqven

gaSfoTebT Cveni xelisfulebis

Zalian saeWvo nabijebi. Torem

ucxo qveynis miwaze mdebare

Zveli qarTuli xuroTmoZRvre-

bis Sedevrebs, Tu ra bedi ewe-

va, Cven, am xelisuflebisgan

gansxvavebiT, marTlac gvadar-

debs.

amitom gpirdebiT, rom roca

oqtomberSi arCevnebSi gavimar-

jvebT, dauyovneblad gamovark-

vevT da saaSkaraoze gamovitanT

yvelafers, rac am mtkivneul

da saCoTiro sakiTxTanaa dakav-

Sirebuli. Semdeg ki TqvenTan

erTad gadavwyvetT saqmes ise,

rom Cvens istoriul saganZur-

sac miexedos da arc Cveni mo-

qalaqeebis realuri da kanonie-

ri moTxovnebi darCes ugule-

belyofili.

Cemo megobrebo!

oficialuri monacemebiT

2003 wlidan dRemde saqarTve-

loSi rva-naxevari miliardi

dolaris pirdapiri ucxouri

investicia ganxorcielda. es

cota ar aris CvenisTana qvey-

nisTvis.

am investicias, wesiT da ka-

noniT, sul mcire 170 aTasi

axali samuSao adgili unda Se-

eqmna 170 aTasi Cveni moqalaqis-

Tvis. daujerebelia, magram pi-

riqiT moxda!

xalxo, Turme, dRes saqarT-

veloSi, sajaro, oficialuri

monacemebiT, 150 aTasi adamianiT

naklebia dasaqmebuli, 150 aTasi

adamianiT naklebs aqvs samuSao

da samsaxuri, vidre 2003 wlis

miwuruls!

aseTi sagangaSo viTareba ki

mxolod imitom Seiqmna, rom sa-

akaSvilis xelisufleba Semo-

sul miliardebs ar moixmars

daniSnulebis mixedviT. am Tan-

xis didi nawili elitaruli

korufciis wyaro xdeba.

Cven pirobas gaZlevT, rom

SevqmniT iseT biznesgaremos,

romelic realurad mimzidvels

gaxdis saqarTvelos ucxoeli

investorebisTvis da investici-

ebi erTi kacis axirebas ki ar

moxmardeba, aramed Tanabrad da

Wkvianurad ganawildeba, raTa

Seiqmnas, rac SeiZleba meti re-

aluri samuSao adgili.

Cven xels SevuwyobT iseTi

axali sawarmoebis gaxsnas, sa-

dac dasaqmebuli adamianebi pa-

tiosani SromiT SeZleben Rir-

seulad cxovrebas.

xalxno, saqarTvelo zRvis-

pira saxelmwifoa da aseT bu-

nebriv resursebs nebismieri

qveyana gonivrulad gamoiyenebda

ekonomikis ganviTarebisTvis.

Cvens qveyanasac hqonda

sazRvao floti, marTalia, arc

ise kargi, magram SeiZleboda

misi gaumjobeseba da reformi-

reba.

am xelisuflebam moaxerxa

da nacvlad imisa, rom mdgoma-

reoba gamoesworebina, mTlianad

wyals gaatana qarTuli sanaos-

no.

15 gemi gaasxvisa mizerul

fasad - 90 milion dolarad,

maSin roca myidvelma kompaniam

am gemebidan 2 gemi erTi wlis

Semdeg 80 milion dolarad ga-

yida. anu saxelmwifom TiTqmis

mTeli floti - 15 gemi - mxo-

lod 2 gemis fasad gayida.

Cvens mezRvaurebs araferi

SeexebaTo, gvpirdeboda xeli-

sufleba da amis sabuTad mezR-

vaurTa dasaqmebis 12-wliani

valdebuleba mohqonda.

magram ise moxda, rom kompa-

nia 5 weliwadSi gakotrda da

yvela iq momuSave adamiani usam-

saxurod darCa.

garda imisa, rom xelisuf-

leba ar dainteresebula Tavisi

moqalaqeebis bediT, Cvens qveya-

nas flotis gareSe darCenis

safrTxe emuqreba. ase eqceva sa-

akaSvilis xelisufleba Tavis

xalxsa da qveyanas.

Cven viciT, rom mezRvauroba

baTumelebisTvis prestiJul,

saamayo, da amave dros Semosav-

lian profesiad iTvleba, rad-

gan zRvaosnobas aq didi tradi-

cia aqvs. qarTvel mezRvaurebs

ucxoeTSi yovelTvis kargi sa-

xeli hqondaT.

Cven, „qarTuli ocneba“,

aucileblad aRvadgenT naosno-

bis tradicias, flotis gadar-

CeniTa da ganviTarebiT gaCndeba

aseulobiT samuSao adgili da

bevri Cveni moqalaqe daibrunebs

Tavis profesias.

umuSevroba rom mZvinvarebs,

sofeli rom misaxedia, da ada-

mianis janmrTeloba rom mTava-

ria, amaze mxolod axla, arCev-

nebis win alaparakda xelisuf-

leba.

Turme aqamde saxelmwifos

aSenebdnen da amitom ar ecalaT

TqvenTvis, Turme saxelmwifos

mSenebloba adamianze zrunvas

gamoricxavs.

ase utifrad gvatyueben,

magram Cvens xalxs moTminebis

fiala ukve aevso. swored amas

daadasturebs xalxi arCevnebze,

1-el oqtombers daadasturebs,

rom tyuils simarTle urCevnia

da gaWirvebas - keTildReoba! me

mjera amis, me mjera Cveni xal-

xis da amitom movedi politi-

kaSi!

qveynis welSi gatexva, qvey-

nis waqcevis piramde miyvana am

xelisuflebam, pirvel rigSi,

soflis meurneobis sruli

ugulebelyofiT moaxerxa. aba

sxva ra SeiZleba uwodo, pirda-

pir vityvi - im avkacobas, ro-

melic xelisuflebam qarTuli

soflis mimarT Caidina.

soflebSi ar aris gza, ar

aris sasmeli wyali, ar aris ga-

zi. glexs ar gaaCnia Sromis

saTanado iaraRi da, Sesabamisad,

ukidures gaWirvebaSi uwevs

cxovreba.

aWaraSi Semosavlis erT-er-

Ti ZiriTadi wyaro citrusia.

Tqven Tavdauzogavad SromobT,

magram am Sromis Sesatyvisi Se-

mosavali ar gaqvT. Cven davkar-

geT gasaRebis bazari da arafe-

ri viRoneT imisTvis, rom axa-

li bazari gamogvenaxa.

aWaraSi citrusis mosavali

gausaRebeli rCeba, an iseT fa-

sad iyideba, transportirebis

xarjsac rom ver anazRaurebs.

Cven gamovnaxavT axal baz-

rebs da rusul bazarsac davib-

runebT.

soflebSi glexebis umete-

soba gaRatakda da amitom yvela

gaqcevazea. ucxoeTSi gadadian

da iq muSaoben kapikebad, raTa

ojaxi rogorme gamokvebon.

ai, am dReSi Caagdo xeli-

suflebam Cveni amayi xalxi, ase

daabeCava! kacs Tavisi nayofieri

miwa-wyali mouvleli aqvs da

ucxoeTSi lamis ymad udgeba

damqiravebels. es unda Sewydes!

Cven davasrulebT aseT yofas!

swored amitom, „qarTul

ocnebas“ dagegmili aqvs aaRor-

Zinos qarTuli sofeli da ami-

saTvis Seqmnas erTmiliardiani

fondi

Cven SevcvliT axlandel

politikas da qarTul sofels

mis mTavar funqcias davubru-

nebT - sofelma qveyana unda ga-

mokvebos. qarTul bazarze dab-

rundeba Cvens miwaze moyvanili

mosavali.

Cven xels SevuwyobT xulo-

Si, Suaxevsa da qedaSi iseTi

tradiciuli dargebis aRorZi-

nebas, rogoricaa meTambaqoeoba,

mefutkreoba, mexileoba da me-

saqonleoba.

xelisuflebis danaSauleb-

rivi politikis gamo zRvis qve-

yanaSi Tevzis rewva Cveni moqa-

laqeebisTvis xelmiuwvdomelia.

dRes es dargi mTlianad mono-

polizebulia.

Cven davamyarebT samarTlian

da konkurentul garemos, ri-

Tac xels SevuwyobT am momgebi-

ani dargis ganviTarebas, srul

cikls avawyobT Tevzis Weridan

mis saboloo gadamuSavebamde da

amiT Seiqmneba realuri samuSao

adgilebi.

ekologiurad sufTa pro-

duqtze axla mTel msoflioSi

udidesi moTxovnilebaa. amitom

Cven davnergavT Tanamedrove

teqnologiebs da Cveni sursa-

TiT ucxour bazarzec Tamamad

da warmatebiT gavalT.

Cven gvjera da gpirdebiT,

rom soflis meurneobis aRor-

Zineba Svebas moutans yovel

adamians, yovel ojaxs, Seiqmne-

ba gadammuSavebeli sawarmoebi

da gaCndeba aTeulobiT aTasi

samuSao adgili.

erT Cems Sexedulebas mo-

gaxsenebT, romelsac, imedi

maqvs, umravlesoba iziarebs. Tu

marTlac ganviTarebul da ara

CamorCenil qveynad gvinda Ca-

movyalibdeT, Cven unda Sevqm-

naT da ganvaviTaroT umaRlesi

rangis saganmanaTleblo dawese-

bulebebi, skolebi, institute-

bi da universitetebi, da, amas-

Tanave, mowinave teqnologiebiT

aRWurvili sawarmoebi, sadac

Tqven da Tqveni Svilebi siamov-

nebiT imuSavebT.

Cven xom swored am, 21-e, sa-

ukuneSi vapirebT Rirseuli

adgilis mopovebas da damkvid-

rebas.

gaxsovT albaT, amas winaT,

baTumelebs saakaSvili evropa-

Si yvelaze maRal - 40-sarTu-

lian universitets dahpirda -

35-e sarTulze eSmakis borb-

liT, kafe-barebiT da biblio-

TekiT. telekamerebis win spe-

cialurad Seqmnili dekoracii-

dan axalgazrdebs mouwoda, ya-

vis WiqiT da wigniT eSmakis

borbalze mokalaTebulebma ime-

cadineTo.

ai, ase dascinis saakaSvili

axalgazrdebs, romelTa umrav-

lesobisTvis umaRlesi ganaTle-

bis miReba finansurad miuwvdo-

melia, mraval students ki

studentis statusi aqvs SeCe-

rebuli, radgan gadasaxadebs

ver ixdis.

saakaSvils ise uWiravs Ta-

vi, TiTqos baTumSi ar iyo, xe-

lisufleba rom daeria baTumis

universitetis studentebs,

roca auditoriebSi cremlsade-

ni gazi gauSves.

2007 wlis 8 noembridan uk-

ve 5 weli gadis, magram am

axalgazrdebisTvis bodiSic ki

aravis mouxdia, viTomc araferi

momxdara, da axla eSmakis bor-

bliT undaT Tavbru daaxvion.

Cven ganaTleba erT-erT mTa-

var prioritetad gvaqvs ga-

mocxadebuli. am xelisuflebam

bevr sofelSi daxura skola da

sabavSvo baRi, es gansakuTrebiT

6 gv.

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mwvaved maRalmTian raionebSi

igrZnoba.

Cven yvela sofelSi aRvad-

genT skolas, yvela bavSvs mie-

cema ganaTlebis miRebis saSu-

aleba da aRar mouwevT skolam-

de sofel-sofeli siaruli.

mSoblebs ki aRar gauWirdebaT

saxelmZRvaneloebis SeZena.

dRes yvelaze uuflobo da

damcirebuli maswavleblebi

arian. garda imisa, rom maTgan

xelisufleba, arCevnebSi Tavisi

politikuri miznebis misaRwe-

vad, srul morCilebas da msa-

xurebas moiTxovs, maTi ufro-

sia yvela - saministro, direq-

tori, mandaturi, da xSirad,

mSobelic ki. maswavleblis av-

toriteti mTlianad daknine-

bulia.

maswavleblebo, qeds vixri

Tqven winaSe. Tqvenma umravle-

sobam mainc moaxerxa da am mZi-

me dros araferi daiSura, raTa

saTanado codna mieca bavSvebis-

Tvis. magram maswavleblis

upirvelesi daniSnuleba xom

isaa, rom Tavisufali pirovneba

aRzardos, Tavisufali moqala-

qeebi aRuzardos Tavisufal

qveyanas.

dRevandeli xelisufleba ki

Tqvengan sxvas moiTxovs - mor-

Cilebas! daSinebuli maswavle-

beli Tavisufal moqalaqes

ver aRzrdis. maswavleblebo,

SeasruleT Tqveni mTavari mo-

valeoba da nuRar CaudgebiT

xelisuflebas damamcirebel

samsaxurSi, nu miscemT arCevne-

bis gayalbebaSi Tqveni gamoyene-

bis saSualebas, nu miscemT uf-

lebas Tqvenze ibatonos!!! mas-

waleblebo, gaTavisufldiT!

Cven dagicavT, dagicavT yve-

las, TiToeul Tqvengans. nu Se-

geSindebaT! Tqveni sindisis kar-

naxs mihyeviT da aCveneT Tqvens

moswavleebs, rom Tavisufleba

da Rirseba umTavresia adamianis

cxovrebaSi!

dameTanxmebiT, rom jandac-

vis saqme Tu ar mogvarda, aRa-

rafers azri ar eqneba.

yvelam viciT, ra mZime mdgo-

mareobaa am mxriv. Tumca saakaS-

vili speqtaklebs dgams da sa-

avadmyofoebs sazeimod xsnis.

CaqvSic xom gaxsna aseTi saavad-

myofo, romelsac, rogorc aR-

moCnda, am dromde ara aqvs li-

cenzia da verc erT pacients

ver iRebs. baTumSi gadayvanisas

ki araerTi avadmyofi gzaSi

gardaecvalaT. es unda damTav-

rdes!

Cven namdvilad vizrunebT

yvela moqalaqis janmrTeloba-

ze. saxelmwifo aiRebs Tavis

Tavze valdebulebas da yoveli

moqalaqis janmrTelobas dai-

cavs. oqtomberSi, saparlamen-

to arCevnebSi Cveni gamarjvebis

Semdeg, saqarTvelos yovel mo-

qalaqes eqneba janmrTelobis

dazRvevis polisi!

Cven mivxedavT Tqvens jan-

dacvas!

Sua zafxulSi, Tanac aWara-

Si, aucileblad unda Sevexo

TqvenTvis uaRresad mniSvnelo-

van - turizmis Temas.

turizmi aWaris mosaxleo-

bis Semosavlis mniSvnelovani

wyaroa.

ramdenime wlis win sanapiro

zolSi mcxovrebi mosaxleoba

endo xelisuflebas da daije-

ra, rom saqarTveloSi miliono-

biT turisti Camovidoda. adami-

anebma kerZo sastumroebisa da

turistuli infrastruqturis

mosawyobad bankebidan maSinve

aiRes sesxi, romlisTvisac ipo-

TekiT datvirTes TavianTi sax-

lebi.

dRes aq, albaT, isinic ari-

an, vinc am sferoSi xelisuf-

lebis ugunuri, zerele poli-

tikis gamo umZimes mdgomareoba-

Si aRmoCndnen. rogorc yovelT-

vis, xelisuflebam, maSinac mo-

atyua xalxi. milionobiT tu-

risti arsad Canda, da Cveni mo-

qalaqeebic male mevale bankebis

pirispir darCnen. ipoTekiT

datvirTuli maSindeli sesxe-

bis gamo bevrma ukve dakarga

saxl-kari, bevrsac axla emuq-

reba saxlebidan gamoyra.

Cven swori ekonomikuri po-

litikiT, namdvilad SevZlebT

imas, rom sabanko procenti

mkveTrad Semcirdeba, Sesabami-

sad, adamianebs kidev eqnebaT

Sansi, raTa xeli mihyon pers-

peqtiul bizness, romelic maT

saSualebas miscems bankTanac

gaasworon angariSi, biznesic

ganaviTaron da damoukidebeli,

Rirseuli cxovrebis saSuale-

bac moipovon.

Cven, „qarTuli ocneba“, xe-

lisuflebaSi mosvlis Semdeg,

aucileblad SevuwyobT xels

turizmis materialuri bazis

gaumjobesebas da aucileblad

davexmarebiT Cvens moqalaqeebs

momsaxurebis xarisxis amaRle-

baSi.

ra Tqma unda, zRvis sezoni

saqarTveloSi 12-Tviani vera-

sodes iqneba, magram istoriisa

da kulturis Zeglebi da buneb-

rivi landSafti imis SesaZleb-

lobas namdvilad iZleva, rom

sworad warmarTuli turizmi

ara marto zafxulis 2 Tvis,

aramed mTeli wlis ganmavloba-

Si xalxis da saxelmwifos Se-

mosavlis erT-erTi mniSvnelo-

vani wyaro iyos.

aWaraSi miwis mflobelobis

sakiTxi rom mosagvarebelia, am

xelisuflebas marto arCevnebis

win axsendeba. winasaarCevnod

xalxs guluxvad urigebs mi-

webs sakuTrebaSi, xolo, ro-

gorc ki arCevnebi Caivlis, -

utifrad arTmevs.

axlac daiwyes miwebis Camo-

rigeba, magram am ankess ukve

aRaravin wamoegeba. Cven movalT

xelisuflebaSi da miwis samar-

Tlian reformas CavatarebT. er-

Txel da samudamod miwa dauka-

nondeba Cvens moqalaqeebs da

maT sakuTrebas veRaravin Seexe-

ba. xelisufleba mdinare Wo-

roxze, maWaxelasa da aWaris-

wyalze giganturi hesebis mSe-

neblobas gegmavs da es gadawy-

vetilebac iseve naCqarevad da

gauazreblad aqvs miRebuli,

rogorc saerTod sCvevia.

hesebis mSeneblobis winaaRm-

degi aravinaa, magram es mosax-

leobam specialistebTan erTad

unda gadawyvitos, radgan aseTi

hesebis mSeneblobas uamravi

problema da riski sdevs Tan,

iqneba es ekologiuri Tu mig-

raciuli.

ekologiuri viTareba mTian

aWaraSi uamisodac umZimesia.

sul ufro izrdeba ekomigrant-

Ta raodenoba, romelTa beds

xelisufleba ise saxeldaxe-

lod da naucbaTevad wyvets, az-

radac ar mosdis, rom adamiane-

bi ki ar unda mowyvitos saku-

Tar fesvebs da gadaasaxlos,

aramed mSobliur kuTxeSi daa-

saxlos.

Cven yvelafers viRonebT da

gamovnaxavT saSualebas, rom

aWaris mkvidri aWaraSive dar-

Ces. me amas gpirdebiT!!!

dRes erTi adamiani wyvets

yvelafers Cveni qveyanis yvela

sofelSi, yvela qalaqSi, yvela

regionSi, avtonomiur respub-

likaSic ki. adgilobrivi xeli-

suflebis warmomadgenlebi yve-

lgan erTi kacis - saakaSvilis

survilebs emorCilebian da mi-

si axirebebis usityvo Semsru-

leblebi arian.

Cven, „qarTuli ocneba“,

gpirdebiT Tqven, aWaris mkvidr-

no, rom Tqven Tbilisidan veRa-

ravin mogaxvevT Tavs Tavis ne-

ba-survils, Tqven Tavad gadawy-

vetT yvela sakiTxs Tqvensave

qalaqSi, raionSi, sofelSi. Cven

amas gpirdebiT!

axla minda Sevexo jarimebis

Temas. vici, rom bevr Cvens moqa-

laqes dakisrebuli jarimebi

did Tavsatexad eqca. es xeli-

sufleba sul imas gvayvedris,

rom evropul standartebs varT

miaxloebuli. am SemTxvevaSi da-

veTanxmebi maT, diax, rac namdvi-

lad evropuli gvaqvs, es gadasa-

xadebi da jarimebia. magram, vis

sTxoven aseT gadasaxadebs da

jarimebs? sTxoven im mosaxleo-

bas, romelic ugunuri da mta-

cebluri politikiT gaaRatakes

da welSi gatexes, uzomod did

jarimebs axdevineben adami-

ans, romelic diliT lukma-

puris saSovnelad gamosu-

li, saRamos xSirad xelca-

rieli da sasowarkveTili

brundeba Sin.

metic, adamians imis sa-

Sulebac ki mouspes, rom,

Tu dakisrebuli jarima

usamarTlod miaCnia, sasa-

marTloSi gaasaCivros. ga-

saCivreba momCivans kidev

ufro Zviri ujdeba. ara-

fers vambob imaze, rom sa-

marTlis povnis imedi ukve

aRaravis aqvs.

xSirad adamiani drou-

lad ver ixdis jarimas, amitom

jarimas gadauxdelobis procen-

tebi emateba da sabolood

iseT Tanxas aRwevs, saxl-karis

gayidvac aRar Svelis saqmes.

aRarafers vambob im jarimebze,

romlebic Cvens mxardamWerebs

daakisres am ramdenime dRis

win. es absurdi unda damTavr-

des!

Cven saswauls ver movax-

denT, magram davamyarebT samar-

Tlianobas jarimebsa da ga-

daxdis realur SesaZleblobas

Soris. samarTlianobis aRdge-

nas daviwyebT xelisuflebaSi

mosvlis pirvelive dReebidan,

gpirdebiT!

Cven pensiebsac gadavxedavT

da saarsebo minimumsac da es

cifrebi xalxis sasargeblod

Seicvleba.

Cven yvela danapirebs Sevas-

rulebT, sityvas gaZlevT!

bolos minda Sevexo im sti-

qiur ubedurebas, romelic am

ramdenime dRis win daatyda

Tavs kaxeTs, samcxe-javaxeTsa

da mcxeTa-mTianeTs.

me mindoda davxmarebodi

Cems xalxs, magram rogorc

iciT, am xelisuflebam yvela

gza momiWra adamianebis daxma-

rebisTvis. arada, axla xalxs

realuri da saswrafo daxmare-

ba sWirdeba.

amitom me gamovnaxe kanonie-

ri gza dazaralebulTa daxma-

rebisTvis. is mravalmilioniani

jarima, romelic saxelmwifom

ukanonod damakisra - 80 mili-

oni lari - gadavricxe stiqiis

Sedegad dazaralebuli mosax-

leobis dasaxmareblad.

Cven SevamowmebT xelisuf-

lebis yvela nabijs, aRvwerT

zarals da vpirdebiT yvelas,

rom Cveni xelisuflebaSi mos-

vlis Semdeg arc erTi adamiani

ar darCeba realuri daxmarebis

gareSe.

Semodgomidan Cven viqnebiT

is xelisufleba, romelic rea-

lurad izrunebs xalxze, saq-

mes gaakeTebs da arafers daay-

vedrebs Tavis moqalaqeebs,

radgan Cven kargad gvaqvs gaaz-

rebuli, rom xelisufleba

xalxs unda emsaxuros da ara -

xalxi xelisuflebas.

Cveni xelisufleba ise

icxovrebs, rogorc Cveni xal-

xi cxovrobs, me amas gpirdebiT!

erTxel da samudamod damTavr-

deba gaTavxedebuli Cinovnike-

bis TareSi, xelisuflebaSi

yofna udidesi pasuxismgebloba

iqneba da ara TanamdebobiTa da

ZalauflebiT tkboba! me amas

gpirdebiT, da sityvas gaZlevT

, rom SevZlebT!

me da Tqven erTad SevZlebT

da, Rirsebas davubrunebT Cvens

qveyanas!!!

Rirsebas davubrunebT Cvens

xalxs!!!

Cveni qveyana Tavs daaRwevs

gaWirvebas!!!

iseT qveyanas avaSenebT, sa-

dac aravis dasWirdeba lukma-

puris saSovnelad samSoblodan

gadaxvewa.

saqarTveloSi daculi iqne-

ba adamianis yvela ufleba, az-

risa da sityvis Tavisufleba;

sasamarTlo iqneba samarTliani,

media - damoukidebeli, biznesi

- xelSeuxebeli!

iseT qveyanas avaSenebT, sa-

dac Cvens saamayo jariskacebsa

da policielebs miecemaT imis

SesaZlebloba, rom Rirseulad

emsaxuron saxelmwifos da ara

romelime xelisufals!!!

Tavisufal saqarTveloSi

Tavisufali xalxi icxovrebs,

romelsac aRar eqneba politi-

kuri devnis SiSi! me amas gpir-

debiT!!!

qarTvelebi, osebi, afxazebi,

ebraelebi, azerbaijanelebi, so-

mxebi, rusebi, berZenebi da

sxvebi iseT qveyanas avaSenebT,

romelic samSoblo iqneba yve-

lasTvis!

saqarTvelo gaxdeba Tavisu-

fali, demokratiuli qveyana,

evropuli Tanamegobrobis Rir-

seuli wevri!

me da Tqven erTad, SevZlebT

da, arCevnebiT SevcvliT am xe-

lisuflebas!!!

da amas yvelafers Tqven

SeZlebT, me da Tqven erTad

SevZlebT, da win Cven veraferi

dagvidgeba! Zala Cvens erToba-

Sia!!!

am brZolaSi Cven erTmaneTs

vWirdebiT! mxolod erTad dgo-

miT movigebT am brZolas!

Cven gvwams da mtkiced gv-

jera, rom gavimarjvebT arCev-

nebSi, qarTveli xalxi gaimarj-

vebs, saqarTvelo gaimarjvebs,

Cven erTad SevqmniT ukeTes mo-

mavals da erTad avisrulebT

qarTul ocnebas!

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iirrmmaa iinnaaSSvviilliiss iinntteerrvviiuu

biZina ivaniSvilTan

- aaxxlloovvddeebbaa aarrCCeevvnneebbii.. xxee-

lliissuufflleebbaamm aaiirrCCiiaa CCvveeuullii mmee-

TTooddii - ZZaallaaddoobbaa.. ssaammwwuuxxaarrooaa,,

rroomm JJuurrnnaalliisstteebbiissaaggaann iiqqmmnneebbaa

zzoonnddeerrbbrriiggaaddeebbii.. rraacc ttrraaggee-

ddiiaaaa CCvveennii qqvveeyynniissTTvviiss.. rrooggoo-

rriiaa TTqqvveennii ttaaqqttiikkaa aamm ssiittuuaa-

cciiaaSSii ddaa kkmmaayyooffiillii xxaarrTT TTuu

aarraa iimm ggzziiTT,, rroommeelliicc TTqqvveenn

ggaaqqvvTT aarrCCeeuullii??

- Tu Tval-yurs adevneb-

diT, sxvaoba Cvensa da „nacio-

naluri moZraobis“ ideologi-

as Soris kargad gamoikveTa

mestiis Sexvedris dros. sxva-

oba, Tu rogoria saakaSvilis

ideologia da rogorebi varT

Cven, kargad gamoCnda mestiaSi,

rodesac oficialurad vxsni-

diT Stabs. Stabis win Sekre-

bili Cveni momxreebis para-

lelurad Sekrebilni iyvnen

nacionalebis mier sxvadasxva

regionidan amoyvanili xalxi.

aq kargad gamoCnda erTi adami-

anis, saakaSvilis Zaladobrivi

ideologia. Cveni erT-erT sa-

nimuSo Sekreba svaneTSi iyo.

svanebma, aseTi istoriis mqone,

Zlierma zorba xalxma, moaxer-

xes TavdaWeriloba, miuxedavad

imisa, rom Zalian gaRiziane-

bulebi iyvnen. rogor dinjad,

kargad iqceodnen svanebi, es

ficxi da mebrZoli xalxi. Se-

uracxyofa aravisTvis migviye-

nebia, vambobdiT, rom isini

Cveni Zmebi arian. swored am

saqcieliT gamoCnda kontras-

ti. Zalian kargad Canda ori –

Cveni koaliciisa da naciona-

luri moZraobis saxe.

-bbaattoonnoo bbiiZZiinnaa,, xxeelliissuuff-

lleebbaa ggaaddaannaaSSaauulleebbTT,, rroomm „„iinn-

ffoo-99““ ddaa TTqqvveenn eerrTTnnii xxaarrTT,,

rreeaalluurraadd rrooggoorr aarriiss,, gguullww-

rrffeellaadd rroomm mmiippaassuuxxooTT??

-mogexsenebaT, Cem meuRles

aqvs iq aqciebis 70%, magram

Cven ar vereviT satelevizio

da saredaqcio politikaSi. an

raSi unda Candes me-9 arxis

araobieqturoba?! Cvens mowi-

naaRmdegeebs Zalian unda ise

warmoaCinon, rom arsebobs sa-

xelisuflebo arxebi, magram

arsebobs ramdenime televizia,

romelic opoziciuria da mxo-

lod opozicias uWers mxars.

es sicruea, arc „maestro“,

arc „kavkasia“ , arc „me-9 ar-

xi“ da arc Tqveni televizia

ar warmoadgens mxolod opo-

ziciur televizias. me Tqven

obieqtur televiziebs giwo-

debT.

-TTuummccaa TTaavviiss ddrroozzee TTqqvveenn

rraammddeenniimmee,, ddaammoouukkiiddeebbeellii ttee-

lleekkoommppaanniiaa ggaaaakkrriittiikkeeTT.. ppoollii-

ttiikkuurrii ZZaalleebbiicc,, rroommeellTTaacc

uuwwooddeeTT ffsseevvddooooppoozziicciiuurrii ZZaa-

lleebbii.. rrooggoorr mmooxxddaa,, rroomm SSeemm-

ddeegg eess aaddaammiiaanneebbii aaRRmmooCCnnddnneenn

TTqqvveennss ggvveerrddiiTT,, rraa mmooxxddaa

TTqqvveennSSii SSeeiiccvvaallaa rraammee TTuu mmaaTT-

SSii??

-cota orive mxare Sevicva-

leT. mec ufro msubuqad Sev-

xede procesebs da maTSic, ox-

da garkveuli koreqtivebi.

Cems mier „maestrosa“ da „kav-

kasiis“ misamarTiT gamoTqmuli

sayvedurebi erosi kiwmariSvi-

lis faqtoriT iyo ganpirobe-

buli. „obieqtivs“, „mecxre

arxs“, „maestrosa“ da „kavka-

sias“ ara opoziciur, aramed

obieqtur televiziebs giwo-

debT. rodesac sayvedurs ga-

movTqvamdi „maestros“ an „kav-

kasiis“ misamarTiT, orive Sem-

TxvevaSi, erosi kiwmariSvilis

gvari mqonda dasaxelebuli.

kiwmariSvilis mier „maest-

ros“ kurireba, bevr kiTxvebs

tovebda. erosis ar vendobi.

misi yofniT am televiziebs

obieqturoba ekargebodaT. mad-

loba RmerTs, erosi aRaraa,

moaxerxes da CamoiSores.

-bbaattoonnoo bbiiZZiinnaa,, TTqqvveenn bbrrZZaa-

nneebbTT,, rroomm SSeeiiccvvaallaa rraaRRaacc

TTqqvveennSSiicc ddaa mmaaTTSSiicc,, mmee ppiirraa-

ddaadd uuffrroo mmoommwwoonnddaa TTqqvveennii

ttoonnii - mmxxiilleebbiiss ttoonnii,, xxaallxxiiss

gguullTTaann mmiiaaxxllooeebbuullii......

-es toni dResac ar damikar-

gavs. Tuki raime iqneba samxile-

beli, me arc axla davixev ukan.

- TTqqvveenn ggaannaaccxxaaddeeTT,, rroomm aarr

ggaaddaaiixxddiiddiiTT iimm aabbssuurrdduull ddaa

uukkaannoonnoo jjaarriimmaass,, mmaaggrraamm mmooxxddaa

iissee,, rroomm eess jjaarriimmaa ggaaddaaiixxaaddeeTT..

mmoottiivvii aabbssoolluuttuurraadd ggaassaaggeebbiiaa

- ssttiiqqiiuurrii uubbeedduurreebbaa kkaaxxeeTTSSii..

TTuummccaa TTqqvveenn xxaazzss aarr uussvvaammTT,,

rroomm jjaarriimmaa ggaaddaauuxxaaddeeTT ssaaxxeell-

mmwwiiffooss ddaa aammbboobbTT,, rroomm ddaaxxmmaa-

rreebbaa ggaauuwwiieeTT aamm TTaannxxiiTT mmoossaaxx-

lleeoobbaass.. xxeelliissuufflleebbaa aammbboobbss,,

rroomm eess aarriiss jjaarriimmaa.. aarrsseebboobbss

mmoossaazzrreebbaa,, rroomm aamm TTaannxxaamm wwaaaa-

xxaalliissaa rreeJJiimmii,, mmaaTT mmiiaaCCnniiaaTT,,

rroomm yyvveellaa kkaapprriizzii ggaassddiiss.. rroo-

ddeessaacc TTqqvveenn aamm TTaannxxaass iixxddiiddiiTT,,

TTqqvveennii mmTTaavvaarrii mmoottiivvii rraa iiyyoo??

-rodesac politikaSi mo-

dixar, garkveuli TamaSis uf-

lebas aZlev sakuTar Tavs.

Tumca sakuTari moralisa da

sindisis winaaRmdeg ar unda

waxvide. me, ra Tqma unda, anga-

riSs vuwev im did miznebs,

rac Cven davisaxeT, magram ar-

c erT SemTxvevaSi Cemi saxe ar

damikargavs. vfiqrob, rom ab-

soluturad Tanmimdevruli

viyavi 80 milionTan dakavSire-

biT.

yovelTvis vambobdi, rom

ar wavidodi kanonis winaaRm-

deg, yovelTvis vixdidi dakis-

rebul jarimebs. magram axla

geometriuli progresiiT da-

iwyes Tanxis gazrda da albaT,

raRac etapze momiwevs gaCere-

ba da uaris Tqma.

politikaSi myofi adamianis

naklebad sjeraT, Tanac rode-

sac arCevnebi karzea momdga-

ri, naklebad sarwmunoa misi

sityvebi, magram gulwrfelad

geubnebiT, es ar iyo CemTvis

erTaderTi SemTxveva. 20 we-

lia vcdilob Cems qveyanas da-

vexmaro. garwmunebT, rom 80

milionis gadaxdis gadawyveti-

leba miviRe mxolod imis Sem-

dgom, rodesac xelisuflebam

stiqiiT dazaralebulebis da-

saxmareblad mizerulad samar-

cxvino Tanxebi gamohyo.

kanonmdebloba Cemze ise

moarges, rom dagWirdes wa-

mals ver miawvdi adamians –

dagiWeren. gauWirda qveyanas,

daiwyo xelisuflebam stiqiiT

dazaralebuli mosaxleobis

motyueba, am dros me Zalian

droulad visargeble momen-

tiT, rom davxmarebodi xalxs

da jarima gadavixade.

Cems mier gadaxdili jari-

mis saxiT, saxelmwifos dama-

tebiTi finansebi gauCnda. keTi-

li inebon zarali aunazRau-

ron mosaxleobas. paralelu-

rad realuri danakargis aRwe-

ras vaxdenT. Tu xelisuflebas

axla ver vaiZulebT stiqiiT

dasazalebulebs Sesabamisi

kompensacia gadauxados, mo-

valT xelisuflebaSi da auci-

leblad gadavuxdiT.

-bbaattoonnoo bbiiZZiinnaa,, ZZaalliiaann ddiiddii

mmoollooddiinniiaa TTqqvveennii kkooaalliicciiiissaa

ddaa uuffrroo sswwoorraadd TTqqvveennddaammii.. ssaa-

zzooggaaddooeebbaa ppiirraaddaadd TTqqvveenn ggii-

WWeerrTT mmxxaarrss,, mmaass aaqqvvss nnddoobbaa,,

rraacc,, SSeessaabbaammiissaadd,, aarriiss uuddiiddeessii

ppaassuuxxiissmmggeebblloobbaa ddaa ttvviirrTTii..

rrooddeessaacc rreeggiioonneebbSSii xxvvddeebbiiTT

mmoossaaxxlleeoobbaass,, rrooggoorr TTvvlliiTT,,

rraa aarriiss mmTTaavvaarrii,, rraacc aawwuuxxeebbss

aamm xxaallxxss??

-es aris usamarTlobis gan-

cda da umuSevroba. xalxs ar

aqvs samuSao. SegviZlia gavaTa-

nabroT es ori didi problema.

gvyavs uamravi ukanono patima-

ri, devnili, Cveni Tanamoqala-

qeebi sazRvargareT arian ga-

daxvewili lukma-puris saSov-

nelad, fizikuri gadarCenisaT-

vis. warmomidgenia, rogor ga-

WirvebaSi arian isini. me dal-

xinebiT vcxovrobdi sazRvar-

gareT da mainc udidesi nos-

talgia mqonda Cemi samSoblo-

si. garkveul etapze, Cemi Ca-

mosvla saqarTveloSi ar SeiZ-

leboda, saSiSi iyo da ver

warmoidgenT, ra mdgomareobaSi

viyavi maSin. aseTive dReSi

arian saqarTvelos is moqala-

qeebi, romelTac aq aRar

ecxovrebodaT. warmomidgenia

maT rogor undaT sakuTar sam-

SobloSi dabruneba. Cemi mi-

zani iqneba, sazRvargareT

lukma-puris saSovnelad ga-

daxvewilma Cvenma Tanamoqala-

qeebma daiwyon Cemodnebis Ca-

lageba da samSobloSi dabrun-

dnen. sazRvargareT mcxovrebi

yvela qarTveli erTdroulad

ver dabrundeba, radgan ekono-

mikas erT weliwadSi ver

aRadgen.

ase swrafad ver SevqmniT

amden samuSao adgils da minda

mosaxleoba amas gagebiT moeki-

dos. Tumca Cven daviwyebT

process da procesi iqneba Se-

uqcevadi.

Zalian meSinia dapirebebis,

ar minda xalxs iluzia Seeqm-

nas, rom pirvelsave wels yve-

las eSveleba. samarTlianoba

aRsdgeba Zalian swrafad. amis-

Tvis investiciebi ar aris sa-

Wiro. samuSao adgilebs rac

Seexeba, amas ramdenime weliwa-

di dasWirdeba, rom yvelam mo-

axerxos dasaqmeba da sakuTar

samSobloSi dabruneba.

-eerrTT-eerrTT iinntteerrvviiuuSSii TTqqvveenn

ggaannaaccxxaaddeeTT,, rroomm ssaaaakkaaSSvviillss

aaqqvvss yyvveellaa ssaaffuuZZvveellii,, mmiissaaTT-

vviiss,, rroomm ggaaxxddeess ddiiqqttaattoorrii..

TTqqvveennTTvviiss ssaaaakkaaSSvviillii jjeerr kkii-

ddeevv aarr aarriiss ddiiqqttaattoorrii??

-formaluarad ara! Tavisi

ganwyobiT da xasiaTiT is ti-

puri diqtatoria. mas amis

survili aqvs, magram ar aqvs

resursi. resursSi vgulisx-

mob qarTvel xalxs. sazoga-

doebas samwuxarod, ar gagavC-

nia politikuri kultura. ar

gvaqvs saxelmwifos marTvis,

arCevis praqtika. Cveni ubedu-

reba isaa, rom sworad ver

virCevT da ver vakontrolebT

xelisuflebas. amiT isargebla

saakaSvilma. internet sivrce-

Si garcelda video, sadac

kargad Cans, rogor movida sa-

akaSvili xelisuflebaSi qvis

sroliT, saakaSvils namdvi-

lad aqvs survili, iyos diq-

tatori, magram qarTveli

xalxi ar aris iseTi beCavi da

briyvi, rogorc mas hgonia.

qarTveli xalxi ar aitans

diqtators.

-aallbbaaTT,, SSeeccddoommeebbss ggaavviiTTvvaa-

lliisswwiinneebbTT.. xxaallxxiiss nneebbaa aauuccii-

lleebbllaadd uunnddaa iiqqnneess ggaaTTvvaalliiss-

wwiinneebbuullii.. mmaaJJoorriittaarreebbss mmiinnddaa

SSeevveexxooTT.. mmTTeell rriigg rraaiioonneebbSSii

ddaassaaxxeelleebbuulliiaa iisseeTTii kkaannddiiddaa-

tteebbii,, rroommeelliicc aarr iiwwvveevveenn xxaall-

xxiiss ssiimmppaaTTiiaass.. eess kkaarrggaadd CCaannss,,

rrooddeessaacc CCvveennTTaann rreekkaavveenn ppiirr-

ddaappiirr eeTTeerrSSii ddaa mmTTxxoovveenn,, xxmmaa

mmooggaawwvvddiinnooTT.. mmee eeTTeerrSSii aarr ddaa-

vvaassaaxxeelleebb mmaaTT ggvvaarreebbss,, kkaaddrrss

mmiiRRmmaa ggeettyyvviiTT.. xxaallxxSSii ggaaCCnnddaa

ggaannccddaa,, rroomm ssaaddRRaacc vviiRRaaccaamm

eerrTTppiirroovvnnuullaadd ggaaddaawwyyvviittaa mmaa-

JJoorriirrttaarreebbiiss kkaannddiiddaatteebbiiss vvii-

nnaaoobbaa.. vviinn iiTTRReebbddaa ggaaddaawwyyvveettii-

lleebbeebbss,, TTqqvveenn TTuu kkooaalliicciiiiss

ssxxvvaa lliiddeerreebbiicc??

-arasodes gamomiyenebia ko-

aliciis Tavmjdomaris upira-

tesoba da gadawyvetilebebi ar

mimiRia erTpirovnulad. kandi-

datebis ganxilva xdeba koali-

ciis liderebTan erTad. jer

erTi, Cems xasiaTSi ar zis es

da meore, Secdomebisgan ar vi-

yavi dazRveuli, radgan me maT

faqtobrivad, ar vicnobdi.

vTvli, rom kargi kandidate-

bia, ZiriTadad dasaxelebuli,

Tumca Secdomisgan aravin varT

dazRveuli

-aannuu aarr ggaammoorriiccxxaavvTT kkaannddii-

ddaatteebbiiss SSeeccvvllaass??

-namdvilad ar gamovricxav.

saWiroebis SemTxvevaSi, ar ga-

movricxav „qarTulma ocnebam“

maJoritari deputatobis kan-

didatebSi koreqtivebi Seita-

nos.

biZina ivaniSvili: biZina ivaniSvili:

ar gamovricxav, `qarTulma

ocnebam~ maJoritari deputatebis

kandidatebSi koreqtivebi Seitanos...

8 gv.

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8 saerTo gazeTi #34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.

yvelasTvis mosawoni kandi-

datis SerCeva Zalian Znelia.

sazogadoebis nawili gulwr-

felad ganicdis Cvens mier

daSvebul Secdomebs, magram

arsebobs xalxis kategoria,

romelTa mizania sxvadasxva

gzebiT da intrigebiT uari

gvaTqmevinos Rirseul kandida-

tebze.

vici, rom gvismenen, gviT-

valTvaleben, cdiloben in-

formacia moipovon, magram es

CvenTvis didi ubedureba namd-

vilad ar aris. Tumca, rogorc

ki karg, Rirseul kandidats

davasaxelebT, yvelaze metad

imas esxmian Tavs. grovdeboda

cru xelmowerebi, rom es kan-

didati, romelsac ama Tu im

raionSi gamarjvebis realuri

Sansi hqonda, moxsniliyo ro-

gorme. es ramdenjerme ganmeor-

da. amas axerxebs seTuris sam-

saxuri. igive xalxi SeiZleba

moqmedebdes televiziasTan mi-

marTebaSi. maT aseve eWvebi Se-

aqvT Cvens mxardamWerebSi, ra-

Ta SeSfoTeba gamoiwvion maT-

Si.

-rrooddeessaacc aassaaxxeelleebbddiiTT mmaa-

JJoorriittaarrTTaa kkaannddiiddaatteebbss,, iiyyoo

TTuu aarraa CCaarrTTuullii aamm pprroocceessSSii

xxaallxxii,, mmiimmddiinnaarreeoobbddaa TTuu aarraa

ggaammookkiiTTxxvvaa ddaa aa..SS..??

-ra Tqma unda, rom Zalian

bevr regionSi Cven CavatareT

gamokiTxva. xalxs aucileblad

vekiTxebodiT azrs. es proce-

si dResac grZeldeba. magali-

Tad, cagerSi meoTxe delega-

cia gavgzavneT axla da albaT,

male ganacxadeben kandidatis

vinaobas. zogierT raionSi or-

jer-samjer SevxvdiT mosaxle-

obas. marTalia, farTomasSta-

bian gamokiTxvas ver vaxerxeb-

diT, magram zogad suarTs ma-

inc viRebdiT.

-CCvveennii tteelleemmaayyuurreebbeellii xxSSii-

rraadd ggvviivvaammss kkiiTTxxvvaass,, aarriiss TTuuaa

aarraa nnaaTTeessaauurrii ssttaattuussii ssaakkmmaa-

rriissii iimmiissaaTTvviiss,, rroomm aaddaammaaiinnii

ddaassaaxxeellddeess kkaannddiiddaattaadd??

-ra Tqma unda, totalurad

ara, magram, magaliTad is faq-

ti, rom manana berikaSvili gi-

vi berikaSvilis qaliSvilia,

aman, ra Tqma unda, imuSava.

Tumca es erTeuli SemTxvevaa.

partiebi motivirebuli iyvnen

iqiTken, rom kandidati yofi-

liyo Rirseuli.

-kkooaalliicciiaaSSii aarriiaann aaddaammiiaannee-

bbii,, rroommeellTTaacc xxaallxxii xxmmaass aarr

mmiisscceemmddaa,, rroomm aarraa bbiiZZiinnaa iivvaa-

nniiSSvviillii,, rroommeellssaacc vveennddoobbiiTT..

ggrrZZnnoobbTT TTuu aarraa ppaassuuxxiissmmggeebb-

lloobbaass aamm aaddaammiiaanneebbiiss ggaammoo,, rroo-

mmeellTTaacc TTqqvveenn TTqqvveennii ssaaxxeelliiTT

SSeeiiyyvvaannTT ppaarrllaammeennttSSii ddaa aarraa

xxaallxxiiss mmxxaarrddaaWWeerriiTT??

-me Zalian bevri vimuSave

koaliciis SigniT, da arsebu-

li resursidan gamomdinare,

marTlac optimaluri jgufi

CamovayalibeT. gavarkvieT mize-

zebi, ratom ar uWerda maT

mxars sazogadoeba, ratom ar

aqvT reitingi, ratom ar arian

popularulebi. bevri maTgani

amayobs, rom man reitingi sa-

xelmwifos mSeneblobas Sea-

lia. Tumca samSoblos da sa-

xelmwifos cneba xSirad ar

emTxveoda erTmaneTs. isini Ta-

vianTi principulobiT gamoir-

Cevian da amave principulobi-

dan gamomdinare dauSviaT Sec-

domebi da ara Segnebulad. me

yovelTvis vcdilob kargi

mxridan davinaxo adamiani.

iseTi Wrelia Cveni sazoga-

doeba, imdeni sicrue danerga

masSi saakaSvilma, profesiona-

li analitikosic ki fexs mo-

itexs. mirCevnia, adamians Tavi-

si principebidan gamomdinare

daSvebuli Secdomebi hqondes,

vidre yalbi da matyuara iyos.

es xalxi CemTvis gacilebiT

sandoa, vidre uprincipo adami-

anebi, romlebic Zalian xSirad

axerxebdnen Ralats.

-aarriiss ffaaqqtteebbii,, rrooddeessaacc

aaddaammiiaanneebbii,, rroommlleebbiicc ssaaaakkaaSSvvii-

lliiss rreeJJiimmss eemmssaaxxuurreebbooddnneenn

wwlleebbiiss ggaannmmaavvlloobbaaSSii,, uucceebb aaRR-

mmooCCnnddeenn ooppoozziicciiaaSSii,, rrooggoorrcc

kkii ggaammooCCnnddaa iivvaanniiSSvviillii.. xxoomm aarr

ggaammooiiwwvveevvss aasseeTTii ffaaqqtteebbii ggaarrkk-

vveeuull iimmeeddggaaccrruueebbaass ssaazzooggaaddoo-

eebbiiss iimm nnaawwiillSSii,, rroommlleebbiicc aamm

wwlleebbiiss ggaannmmaavvlloobbaaSSii gguullwwrr-

ffeellaadd eebbrrZZooddnneenn rreeJJiimmss,, rraa

aazzrrii hhqqoonnddaa mmaaSSiinn bbrrZZoollaass??

-ra Tqma unda, gansxvaveba

sazogadoebis am or nawils

Soris angariSgasawevia da amas

TiTqmis yovelTvis viTvalis-

wineb. Tumca kargad vacnobie-

rebT, rom sajaro moxeleebis

didi nawili msxverplia saa-

kaSvilis ideologiisa. maT

odesRac iseve moswondaT saa-

kaSvili, rogorc me da abso-

lutur umravlesobas. dResac

am jadosnuri sistemidan gad-

moxtoma arc Tu ise iolia.

SeiZleba viRacas wamosvla un-

dodes, xelfassac Seelios,

magram xelfasi aRar aris gan-

msazRvreli,. SeiZleba Zma, qma-

ri an mSobeli dauWiron da

ufro uaresi - fizikurad ga-

anadguron! is, rom maT ar aqvT

alternatiuli samuSao, iZu-

lebulni arian darCnen sajaro

samsaxurSi, amas gagebiT veki-

debi. vapireb, movuwodo am

xalxs samsaxuris datovebisa-

ken arCevnebamde, mixedon Tava-

inT momavals. Cveni mizania, Se-

vinarCunoT saqarTvelos yvela

is moqalaqe, visac sisxlis sa-

marTlis danaSauli ar qvs Ca-

denili. es sasamarTlom unda

gadawyvitos da ara politiko-

sebma. Cven unda movaxerxoT,

pirvel rigSi, obieqturi sasa-

marTlos danergva da amaze pi-

radad vizruneb.

ver davkargavT verc erT

saqarTvelos moqalaqes. me, pi-

radad, vnaxe, rogor veRar mi-

yurebdnen TvalebSi swored is

xalxi, romlebic mestiaSi mi-

kiJinebdnen. Cven sxva kultu-

ris da tradiciebis qveyana

varT, romelsac ase advilad

ver modrek da ver gadaagvareb!

-TTuummccaa eess xxeelliissuufflleebbaa

yyvveellaaffeerrss aakkeeTTeebbss aamm qqvveeyynniiss

ggaassaannaaddgguurreebbllaadd....

-ar minda davijero da isev

Woris doneze vambob, rogorc

amboben, arsebobs gegma, rom-

lis mixedviTc mxolod mili-

onnaxevari adamiani unda dar-

Ces saqarTveloSi da aqedan

mxolod 40% unda iyos eTni-

kurad qarTveli. Tu es marTa-

li ar aris, maSin ratom agde-

ben aseT dReSi qarTul so-

fels. burebisTvis SeiZleba iq

cxovreba da qarTvel glexs

ar daedgomeba.?! Tu gavixse-

nebT, rogor Tqves uari Cems

fulze, investicia Cadebuliyo

soflis meurneobaSi, rogor

gadauketes burebma svanebis

sofels wyali, es Wori am

fonze Zalian hgavs simarTles.

-TTqqvveenn ppoolliittiikkoossii bbrrZZaannddee-

bbiiTT ddaa aammiittoomm ssaauubbrroobbTT mmoozzoo-

mmiillaadd,, bbaattoonnoo bbiiZZiinnaa,, mmee ddiiddii

xxaanniiaa aammoovvvvaarrddii JJuurrnnaalliissttiiss

CCaarrCCooeebbiiddaann ddaa ppiirrddaappiirr vvllaa-

ppaarraakkoobb iimmaass,, rraassaa,, xxaallxxii aamm-

bboobbss.. rrooggoorr aarr iiyyoo eess mmiizzaann-

mmiimmaarrTTuullii ggaannaaddgguurreebbaa qqvveeyynniiss,,

rrooccaa aammddeennii bbiiWWeebbii CCaaxxoocceess

uuddaannaaSSaauulloodd,, rrooccaa tteerriittoo-

rriiiiss 2222%% ddaaTTmmeess,, rrooccaa rree-

ffoorrmmeebbiiTT ddaaaannggrriieess ggaannaaTTlleebbaa,,

mmeeccnniieerreebbaa,, kkuullttuurraa.. TTqqvveenn kkii

mmooggwwoonnTT ggaannaaTTlleebbiiss rreeffoorrmmaa

mmaaggrraamm......

-vin Tqva, rom momwons. me

aRvniSne, rom mivesalmebi

erovnul gamocdebs. Torem re-

formebis absoluturi umrav-

lesoba iyo damangreveli da

stresuli Cveni sazogadoebis-

Tvis. guSin Cemi ZmiSvili mi-

kiTxavda: merabiSvili da sa-

qarTvelos akademikosebi sa-

qarTvelos gadaarCenen! es

aris samsityviani anekdoti.

arsebulma xelisuflebam, mec-

niereba da ganaTleba, praqti-

kulad, gaanadgura. mxolod

erTiani erovnuli gamocdebisa

da policiis reformam gaamar-

Tla. aTasobiT patrulma uari

Tqva qrTamis aRebaze, magram es

ar iyo arc merabiSvilis kar-

gi menejmentis Sedegi da arc

saakaSvilis ideologiaze dam-

yarebuli gamarjveba – es Sem-

TxveviT gamouvidaT. me SemiZ-

lia asobiT reforma gavixseno,

ris Sedegadac qveyana dangre-

vis piras miiyvanes. es policia

dRes bolomde daingra, bo-

lomde politizirebulia. isev

qarTveli xalxis winaaRmdeg

iyeneben. Tavad policia

gaxda reJimis msxverpli

da Cven maT aucileblad

gavaTavisuflebT.

me Zalian minda move-

fero maT. iq aris Seyri-

li, daaxloebiT, 1000

kaci, zonderebi, aSanta-

Jeben da ubiZgeben danaSa-

ulisaken.

Cven Rirseuli yofa

unda SevqmnaT TiToeuli

Cveni moqalaqisaTvis da

amiT davamtkicoT, rom

marTla niWieri eri

varT!

-mmaaggrraamm jjeerr uunnddaa mmoo-

vviiggooTT aarrCCeevvnneebbii.. TTqqvveenn

bbrrZZaanneeTT,, rroomm aarr mmooxxddeebbaa

aamm aarrCCeevvnneebbiiss ggaayyaallbbeebbaa.. TTuummccaa

aarrCCeevvnneebbii uukkvvee yyaallbbddeebbaa.. pprroo-

cceessiiss ggaayyaallbbeebb uukkvvee kkaannoonnddeebbaa..

rraa mmeeTTooddeebbss mmiimmaarrTTaavvss bbiiZZiinnaa

iivvaanniiSSvviillii ggaayyaallbbeebbiiss SSeemmTTxxvvee-

vvaaSSii ddaa TTuu iiqqnneebbaa aamm mmeeTTooddeebb-

SSii ssaammooqqaallaaqqoo ddaauummoorrCCiilleebb-

lloobbiiss ggzzaa??

-amdeni dayadaRebiT, daja-

rimebiT, faqtobrivad, ukve

yalbdeba arCevnebi, uflebas

ar gvaZleven davafinansoT kam-

pania. daxures organizaciebi,

xdeba sazogadoebrivi azris

Camoyalibeba.

yvela is qmedeba, rasac xe-

lisufleba Cvens winaaRmdeg

axorcielebs, ukve aris gayal-

bebis nawili. is gayalbebis me-

qanizmebi, rac am xelisufle-

bas aqvs SemuSavebuli, ukve

gaTvlili gvaqvs da prevenci-

ul zomebzec aqtiurad vmuSa-

obT. koalicias aqvs gaTvlebi,

romelSic yvela gayalbebis me-

qanizmis faqtori gaTvaliswi-

nebulia da amis Sedegad xeli-

sufleba arCevnebis gayalbebas

5 procentze meti maCvenebliT

ver SeZlebs. xelisuflebas

arCevnebis gayalbeba ukve

dawyebuli aqvs. is, rom sazo-

gadoebis azris Camoyalibeba

surT sxvadasxva tipis kvleve-

biT, jarimebiT, im zewoliT,

rac xorcieldeba Cems Tanamo-

azreebze, gayalbebis nawilia.

Tumca, xelisuflebisTvis ase-

Ti qmedeba sakmarisi mainc ar

iqneba. Cven SevqmeniT specia-

luri jgufi, romelic maT ma-

qinaciebs Seiswavlis. ukve uam-

ravi videomasala arsebobs ko-

ordinatorebze, maT Sekrebeb-

ze, gayalbebis meTodebze.

„qarTuli ocneba“ arCevnebs

didi sxvaobiT moigebs. evrope-

lebTan da amerikelebTan in-

tensiuri muSaoba mimdinareobs

da Tu xelisufleba totalur

gayalbebas Seecdeba, arCevnebi

Semdgarad ar CaiTvleba. Tumca

Cven gasakeTebel aravin gaake-

Tebs. dasavleli megobrebi ar

gariskaven bevrs, maT aq aqvT

kavSirebi. Tumca totalur si-

yalbeze xels ar mouweren.

rac Seexeba diqtaturas, maT

amis resursi namdvilad ar

aqvT. arsebul xelisuflebas

civiluri meTodebiT gavistum-

rebT. Tu saWiro gaxda, bolos

da bolos mTel saqarTvelos

quCaSi davayenebT da amerikel

Tu evropel damkvirveblebs

naTlad davanaxebT arsebul

realobas. da Tu mainc moaxer-

xes amaT gayalbeba, mouwera

Tundac xeli evropam da ameri-

kam, me arasodes ar movuwodeb

qarTvel xalxs dapirispirebi-

saken. quCaSi gamoviyvanT sazo-

gadoebas da pirdapir davaTv-

levinebT gamosul xalxs ame-

rikelebsa da evropelebs.

-ssaazzooggaaddooeebbaa ggaanniiccddiiss,, rroomm

aarr mmooxxddeebbaa iissee,, rroomm `̀qqaarrTTuullii

ooccnneebbaa~~,, vvTTqqvvaaTT SSeevvaa ppaarrllaammeenn-

ttSSii,, ddaaiikkaavveebbss 2200 ssaavvaarrZZeellss

ddaa rreeJJiimmii ddaarrCCeebbaa rreeJJiimmaadd.. rraass

iizzaammss iivvaanniiSSvviillii mmaaSSiinn??

-es ararealuaria. Cven

gvaqvs gaTvlebi, viTvaliswi-

nebT Zalian bevr gare da Sida

faqtors. `qarTuli ocnebisT-

vis“ yvelaze optimaluri Se-

degi, parlamentSi 60 procen-

tiT Sesvla iqneba. yvelaze

uares SemTxvevaSi, SeiZleba

miviRoT 40%. naklebi ara. da

es 40% amaTvis damangreveli

iqneba, radgan sicruiT veRar

gvmarTaven. saakaSvils aRar

aqvs perspeqtiva, qveyana gada-

Cexos. igi an Tavad gadaiCexe-

ba an darCes da perspeqtiva

Seiqmnas. amitom movuwodeb,

dabrundnen kanonier sivrceSi

da moemsaxuron sakuTar

xalxs.

-iiZZaabbeebbaa ssiittuuaacciiaa CCvveennii rree-

ggiioonniiss iirrggvvlliivv.. aammaazzee ssaaxxeellii-

ssuufflleebboo aarrxxeebbii aarr ssaauubbrroobbeenn,,

mmaaggrraamm pprroocceesseebbii iimmddiinnaarreeoobbss..

rraammddeennaadd SSeeZZlleebbTT TTqqvveenn ddaaiicc-

vvaaTT qqvveeyyaannaa mmoossaallooddnneellii kkaa-

ttaakklliizzmmeebbiissaaggaann??

- saakaSvilma SeiZleba Ta-

vis sasargeblod gamoiyenos

iranis irgvliv mimdinare mov-

lenebi, swored am katakliz-

mebze vsaubrobdi,roca vaxsene,

Cveni parlamentSi 40%-iT

Sesvla. Cven rodesac xeli-

suflebaSi movalT, maqsimalu-

rad SevecdebiT gatardes yve-

la prevencia qveynis gadasar-

Cenad. swori politikis da

analizis Sedegad minimumamde

unda daviyvanoT is safrTxee-

bi, rac garedan gvemuqreba.

mediakavSiri „obieqtivi“

iibbeeWWddeebbaa SSeemmookklleebbiiTT

7 gv.

ar gamovricxav, `qarTulma

ocnebam~ maJoritari

deputatebis kandidatebSi

koreqtivebi Seitanos...

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9saerTo gazeTi#34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.

gvesaubreba filosofiis doq-

tori zaza SaTiriSvili:

_ zaza, xelisuflebis mxridan

jarimebs, yadaRebs bolo ar uCans.

es yvelaferi ukve sajarod gaupa-

tiurebis scenas emsgavseba. amiT

xelisufleba Zalis demonstrire-

bas axdens. rodemde viTminoT es?

_ xelisufleba gvaSantaJebs,

anu mas yvelaferi iqamde mihyavs,

rom xalxis quCaSi gamosvlebi ga-

moiwvios. SantaJis arsi Semdegia,

igi ambobs _ me Tu ar viqnebi, re-

voluciis mowyoba mogiwevT, Tu

ara moiTmineTo, Tqven xom ar gin-

daT revolucia, amitom me viqne-

bio. igi sargeblobs imiT, rom

gvaxsenebs samoqalaqo oms. misi

`plusia~, is rom igi `bezprede-

li~ tipia da amiT sargeblobs. es,

ra Tqma unda Zalian saxifaToa. sa-

erTod, revoluciebis dros

msxverplis momenti saxifaToa imi-

tom, rom es ukanaskneli TviTon

aris xolme damnaSave. aseTi damna-

Save msxverpli mudmivad arsebobs,

CrdiliviTaa arsad midis, sul xe-

laxla Cndeba da Cndeba. es serio-

zuli problemaa. arsebobs dilema

_ Cven Tavisuflad SegviZlia da

sruli, legitimuri uflebac

gvaqvs, am xelisuflebis demonta-

Jis, radgan rasac igi akeTebs es

realurad `bezpredelia~. es legi-

timaciis sakiTxia, rac Semdegs gu-

lisxmobs _ ratom akeTebs xeli-

sufleba imas, rasac akeTebs? _

bolo periodamde es xdeboda imi-

tom, rom igi progresuli da pro-

dasavluri iyo. nebismieri xeli-

sufleba garkveuli legitimaciis

wyarodan gamomdinare Zaladobs _

an aris imitom, rom RvTaebrivia,

an raRac miTologias eyrdnoba. am

SemTxvevaSi, es iyo fizikurad

jorj buSis mxardaWera. ufro

metic, es iyo buSis proeqti, ro-

melic aSS-s dominirebas, ruseTis

daSlas gulisxmobda, raSic saqar-

Tvelos Tavis roli unda Seesru-

lebina. es oreuli da plus prog-

resuloba, xelisuflebas dRemde

mohyveba. es seriozuli ramaa. oba-

mas xelisuflebac ki iZulebulia

Tavisi winamorbedis proeqti gaiT-

valiswinos. aSS-Si ase ar xdeba,

rom momdevno xelisuflebam winas

demiTologizacia moaxdinos, gans-

xvavebiT sabWoTa kavSirisgan, sa-

dac momdevno xelisufleba winas

demiTologizacias axdenda. aqedan

gamomdinare, es seriozuli momen-

ti iyo. xelisuflebisTvis 7 noem-

beric, 26 maisic pro-rusuli, anu

CamorCenili gadatrialebis mcde-

loba iyo. xelisufleba ambobs _

me var progresi, yvela revolucia

progresia, zemoxsenebuli ki aris

kontrrevolucia, amitomac ufle-

ba maqvs xalxi davsajo, represie-

bi ganvaxorcieloo. xelisufleba

cdilobs igive ivaniSvilTan mimar-

TebaSi ganaxorcielos. igi miiC-

nevs, rom ivaniSvili pro-rusuli,

CamorCenilia, Tavad ki progresu-

lia.

_ magram, zaza, am `progresu-

li~ qmedebebiT mogebuli isev xe-

lisufleba rCeba _ jarimebis ga-

daxdiT ivaniSvili isev da isev xe-

lisuflebis cariel jibeebs av-

sebs...

_ ra Tqma unda, geTanxmebi, es

Tanxa xelisuflebis jibeSi midis.

magram ivaniSvils ar gadauxdia

jarima. 80 milionis gadaxda _ es

qvelmoqmedeba iyo.

_ riT mtkicdeba, es faqti,

vinmes SeuZlia daadasturos, rom

am 80 milionidan erTi TeTri ma-

inc moxmarda kaxeTs?

_ xo, magram, faqtia, rom xe-

lisuflebas fuli saerTod ar

hqonda da 80 milioni gauCnda. oq-

tomberSi axali xelisufleba mo-

va da am 80 milions gaakontro-

lebs. 80 milionis gadaxdas, ro-

gorc qvelmoqmedebas ise ganvixi-

lav. rac Seexeba danarCens, ivaniS-

vili amas iZulebiT akeTebs. igi

jarimas ar ixdis, magram arsebobs

iZulebiTi aRsrulebis meqanizmi,

anu viRaca modis da yvelaferi da-

ukiTxavad miaqvs. am yvelafers Se-

iZleba winaaRmdegoba gauwio, mag-

ram es ukve Zaladobrivi aqtia.

rodesac ivaniSvili jarimis

gadaxdaze uars ambobs _ es araZa-

ladobrivad arSesrulebuli aq-

tia. amiT igi ambobs, rom es kano-

ni cudia da ar asrulebs mas, mag-

ram rodesac viRac modis da Seni

saxlidan miaqvs, am SemTxvevaSi wi-

naaRmdegobis gaweva ukve Zalado-

bis dialeqtikaSi gagdebs, amitom

ivaniSvili sworad iqceva.

_ marTebuli saqcielia isic,

rac giga bukias saxlis auqcionze

gamotanas ukavSirdeba? xelisuf-

lebas Tanxa ar aqvs da verc iyi-

dis am qonebas. imis magivrad, rom

saxlis yidva davgmoT da es Rala-

tad gamovacxadoT, piriqiT ratom

viqceviT, es Tanxa xom bukias ki

ara xelisuflebis jibeSi midis?

ra logika devs amaSi?

_ am saxls veravin iyidis imi-

tom, rom nebismieri myidveli go-

nivruli eWvidan gamomdinare iva-

niSvilTan iqneba dakavSirebuli.

mokled, es iseTi dialeqtikaa, ro-

melsac sjobs Tavi davaneboT. xe-

lisuflebis logika midis Semde-

gisken igi iqamde midis, rom fuli

akrZalos, rasac praqtikulad ake-

Tebs kidec. igi ambobs, rom fuli

ar unda arsebobdes, esaa misi lo-

gika. aqedan gamomdinare, ase vityo-

di, sxva saSualeba ar arsebobs _

kanoni ar unda Seasrulo, magram

rodesac saqme iqamde midis, rom

viRac Semodis SenTan saxlSi da

daukiTxavad miaqvs, sxva gamosava-

li aRar gaqvs, winaaRmdegobas ver

gauwev. winaaRmdegoba Zaladobis

logikaSi gagdebs.

_ aba rogor moviqceT, ase ga-

laxulebi mivideT arCevnebamde?

sanam fuls uxdi, xelisufleba

yovelTvis gamoZebnis dasayadaRe-

bels da amas bolo ar eqneba.

_ amaze verafers vityvi, es

politikosebis saqmea. amaSi saer-

Tod ver verkvevi. vsaubrob imaze,

Tu ra unda moimoqmedo araswori

kanonis winaaRmdeg _ aseTi kanoni

ar unda Seasrulo. ratom aris

gandizmi mniSvnelovani? _ kanoni

unda daarRvio araZaladobrivad.

sazogadoebam unda ilaparakos, Se-

fasebebi gaakeTos. Cven didi xania

Sefasebuli gvaqvs saakaSvilis re-

Jimi, rogorc Rrmad Sizofreniu-

li movlena. sxva rogorRa Sevafa-

sod. diagnozi dasmulia.

_ gasagebia, magram diagnozis

dasmas mkurnaloba mosdevs xolme,

anu qmedebaa saWiro.

_ qmedeba Semdegia _ radganac

ivaniSvils Zaladobrivi aqti, re-

volucia ar surs da Cven mas ven-

dobiT, amitom mis strategias un-

da mivyveT. vinc ar endoba, ki, ba-

tono, moawyos paralelurad re-

volucia.

_ ivaniSvilis gamoCenam garda

magisa xelisuflebas Semosavlis

wyaro xom ar gauCina? xelebaweu-

li vdgevarT da gaviZaxiT _ wai-

ReT, gagvZarcveT...

_ ki, magram es seriozuli

araa. es fuli mniSvnelovani araa.

xelisuflebas aranairi resursi

aRar aqvs. roca Zaladoba erTa-

derTi iaraRia, amiT Cans, rom sxva

resursi amowuruli gaqvs. roca

sxva resursi ar dagrCa, garda qo-

nebis dayadaRebis, antenebis akr-

Zalvis, amaze seriozulad saubari

SeuZlebelia.

dRevandeli situacia garkveu-

li tipis gamowvevebs gvTavazobs,

rasac pasuxebi sWirdeba. amis gamo-

xatvis formebi SeiZleba improvi-

zaciuli iyos, radgan situacia

sruliad gauTvaliswinebelia, ara-

fers ar hgavs, aqedan gamomdinare

pasuxebic gansxvavebulia.

_ iqneb erT-eerTi gansxvavebu-

li pasuxi isic iyos, rom yadaRe-

bis dadebiT fulis miRebis gamow-

veuli imedi davukargoT xelisuf-

lebas, ris Sedegadac igi iZulebu-

li gaxdeba gaCerdes.

_ es represiuli logi-

kaa. Zalian mniSvnelovania

Tu rodis amuSavda igi. rep-

resiuli manqana swored ma-

Sin amuSavda, rodesac Zala

dainaxa, anu es represiuli

aparati 27 maisis Semdeg

amuSavda. roca 200 aTasi

kaci dainaxes, xelisuflebam

gadawyvita, mTavaria ivaniS-

vils fuli waarTvas da qve-

bi esrolos, magram es lo-

gika ar muSaobs imitom, rom

ivaniSvili mxolod fuli

rodia. iseve, rogorc mxo-

lod qvebis sroliT ver

SegvaSineben. dRes `naciona-

luri moZraoba~ ukve warsu-

lia, CamorCeniloba, goimobaa.

davakvirdeT ra moxda _ jer

xalxi TbilisSi gamovida, Semdeg

quTaisSi _ xelisuflebas egona,

rom quTaisi misi mxardamWeria,

radgan iq parlamenti aaSenes. Sem-

deg iyo ozurgeTi, mcxeTa, baTumi,

romelic mixeil saakaSvilma daa-

fuZna da am dros aqciaze xalxis

raodenobis rekordebi ixsneba. amas

xelisufleba sxva verafers uzam-

da da aqedan gamomdinare represi-

uli aparati aamoqmeda. sxva riT

unda upasuxos am yvelafers xeli-

suflebam? _ ra Tqma unda imiT,

rasac am 9 wlis manZilze akeTeb-

da _ piariT, dayadaRebiT, yaCaRo-

biT. es xom yovelTvis iyo. xom mi-

viReT TamaSis es wesi, rom Catar-

des arCevnebi?! sazogadoeba amas

Tavisi gamosvlebiT, arsebuli re-

itingebiT ambobs. ivaniSvils, daax-

loebiT xalxis 70 procenti

uWers mxars, `nac.moZraobas~ _ 8

procenti.

_ xom ar xdeba ise, rom xal-

xi damarcxebas SeaCvies da maT Se-

iZleba, am fonze aRarc arCevnebSi

damarcxeba gaukvirdeT?

_ xalxi, amas rogorc damar-

cxebas ise ar aRiqvams. iseve, ro-

gorc arsebobs raRac momentebi,

roca adamiani usamarTlobas sCa-

dis. damarcxeba da gamarjveba maSi-

naa, rodesac brZola Tanabaria,

roca orives iaraRi aqvs. roca

orives iaraRi aqvs da erTi meores

amarcxebs, amas hqvia brZola, mag-

ram roca meores iaraRi ar aqvs da

saxeSi urtyamen, es usamarTlobaa.

xalxi ki yovelTvis imis mxaresaa

visac urtyamen. axla swored ase-

Ti situaciaa, anu es ar aris ga-

marjveba da damarcxeba, aramed

usamarTlobaa. xelisufleba amaSi

scdeba, magram mas gamosavali ar

aqvs. iciT xelisufleba ras ake-

Tebs _ urtyams adamians, romel-

sac iaraRi ar aqvs.

_ zaza, neba momeciT, am SemTx-

vevaSi ar dageTanxmoT. dadgeba mo-

menti, roca daCagrulis mimarT

xalxs TanagrZnoba aRar eqneba,

elementalurad mixvdeba, rom Ta-

vad daCagruli maT ver uSvelis

da xalxi Zlieris mxares daiWers.

es xom xalxis Tvisebaa?

_ ki, magram, saqme iciT, raSia?

_ xalxi Zlieris mxares gadadis

maSin, roca es ukanaskneli realu-

radaa Zlieri. SeiZleba Zlieri

usamarTlo iyos, magram axla ase-

Ti situaciaa _ is, vinc Zaladobs

ukve Zlieri aRar aris, mas Zala

ecleba da sakuTari Tavis rwmena

ekargeba. es ki imitom xdeba, rom

mas ukve aRar sjera imis, risic 8-

9 wlis win sjeroda. mas sakuTa-

ri simarTlis aRar sjera. amito-

macaa, rom dRes erTs ambobs, xval

meores, zeg mesames, babilonur ena-

ze laparakobs. yvelaze mniSvnelo-

vani momentia rwmenis dakargva.

roca adamians rwmena dakarguli

aqvs, mas ar aqvs Zala. Zala araso-

des ar dgas mxolod Zalaze, ara-

med Sinagan rwmenaze. yvela dampy-

robels napoleons, Cingiz xans,

Temur lengs hqondaT is, rasac Ca-

nafiqris sidiade ewodeba. napole-

oni aleqsandre makedonels baZav-

da, mas erTiani evropa undoda.

aleqsandre Tavis Tavs rogorc

aqilevss warmoidgenda da aRmosav-

leTis da dasavleTis gaerTianeba

surda. demokratiis evropuli

idea iyo yvela adamiani gavaTavi-

sufloT. demokratias, feminizms,

ra ideebi aqvs?! _ rom unda mivi-

deT mahmadianebTan da qals faran-

ja avxadoT, raTa is ganviTardes.

meore sakiTxia, ramdenad unda ira-

nels es gaTavisufleba, magram

aris Canafiqris sidiade, roca Se-

gaqvs am tipis ideebi da amis gje-

ra. magram saakaSvils amis ukve

aRar sjera. saakaSvils da mis xe-

lisuflebas Zalauflebis Senar-

Cuneba surs imitom, rom amisgan

seriozuli dividendebi aqvT, anu

oligarqiuli sistemis xibli _

roca biznesi, fuli da Zalaufle-

ba erTi da igivea. xelisuflebas

yovelTvis, sxvadasxvanairad miR-

weuli, raRac garkveuli tipis as-

ketizmi sWirdeba. rodesac Zala-

ufleba pirdapiraa siamovnebasTan

dakavSirebuli, am tipis xelisuf-

leba didxans ver Zlebs.

_ saakaSvili vis baZavs?

_ saakaSvili, faqtobrivad yve-

las da yvelafers baZavs. es unika-

luri fenomenia, Zalian araorigi-

naluri da Tan ekleqturi adamia-

nia. yvelaze axlos, albaT caxes

cinoberTanaa _ visTanacaa imas em-

sgavseba. misi reJimi Zalian arase-

riozuli, Teatraluria, romelic

Tan seriozul sisxls Rvris. saq-

me imaSi ki araa, am reJimma 2 aTa-

si kaci daxoca Tu milioni. mTava-

ri isaa, rom Tavisi SinaarsiTaa

represiuli.

gamarjvebas da damarcxebas az-

ri aqvs maSin, roca orives iaraRi

aqvs, roca erTsac samurais xmali

aqvs da meoresac. magaliTad, due-

lis dros puSkini damarcxda da

dantesma gaimarjva. ara, es magali-

Ti ar gvinda, ityvian, rom pro-ru-

suli var (icinis). rodesac dar-

tanianma roSfori daamarcxa ori-

ves daSna hqonda, ubralod, erTi

ukeTesad xmarobda, vidre meore.

aqedan gamomdinare, roca fuls,

antenebs garTmeven, qvebs gesvrian,

sul sxva movlenasTan gvaqvs saqme.

antenebis da TefSe-bis warTmeviT xelisuf-leba iciT, ras ambobs? _rom is, rasac TviTonlaparakobs, amas aravi-Tari fasi ar aqvs. imTefSiT, xom `rusTavi-2~-ic, `imedic~ iseve gavido-da, rogorc sxva arxebi.anu, am saqcielidan Cans,

rom igi realur in-formacias marTlaaniWebs mniSvnelo-bas da ambobs _ ra-sac me vlaparakob,imas aranairi fasiar aqvs. me vityue-bio, ai, amis aRiare-baa es yvelaferi.

amaze didi aRiareba da

sakuTari Tavisadmi urwmu-

noeba, ubralod warmoudge-

nelia. stalinis dros ar-

Cevnebi rom Catarebuliyo,

90 procenti mas miscemda

xmas imitom, rom rwmena ar-

sebobda. amis naTeli gamo-

xatulebaa omi, romelic

rusebma moiges. mogvwons Tu ara,

es rwmenam ganapiroba. naTqvamia,

yvelaferi rwmenis simkveTreze

rom iyos damokidebuli, maSin eS-

maksac eyoleboda Tavisi wamebu-

lebio. eSmaks gauCnda ukve Tavisi

wamebulebi, esenia: me-19 saukunis

teroristebi, evropeli teroris-

tebi, ideisTvis wamebulebi. magram

sabWoTa kavSiri rodis daingra? _

rodesac rwmena daikarga. saakaS-

vils aqvs parodiuli reJimi, ro-

melic yvela arsebul reJims ba-

Zavda. mas garkveuli azriT undo-

da reigani, aTa Turqi an petre I

yofiliyo. magram, ra gamouvida,

esaa mTavari. es aris absolutu-

rad parodiuli, groteskuli re-

Jimi, Tumca pirvel etapze prog-

resis rwmena arsebobda. xalxSi

iyo rwmena, rom saakaSvili, rome-

lic xuT enaze laparakobs, ufro

progresulia, vidre SevardnaZe,

romelic mamaTidanaa. dRes es

rwmena daikarga da rac mTavaria,

saakaSvilmac dakarga rwmena. swo-

red am uimedobidan, urwmunoebi-

dan daibada imedi ivaniSvilis sa-

xiT. viRacisTvis es imedi rusTa-

velis Teatria, viRacisTvis same-

bis taZari...

Tamar SveliZe

saakaSvils undoda aTaTurqi an petre I gamxdariyo, magram bolos caxes cinoberad iqca...

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oriode Tvis win romm gekiTxaT,,

aqttiuur ppolittikuur saqmmianobaSi

Cabmmas xomm ar appirebTo,, kattegori-

uul uuars gettyodaT. dRes koalicia

`qarTuuli ocneba-ddemmokrattiuuli sa-

qarTvelos~ mmaJorittarobis kandi-

dattia dmmanisis raionSi. igi koali-

ciis lidermma battonmma biZina ivaniS-

vilmma walkaSi gammarTuuli winasaar-

Cevno Sexvedrisas Tavad waruudgina

mmosaxleobas. mmarTalia,, ppolittiko-

sobis gammocdileba ar gaaCnia,, mmag-

ramm Tuu mmis biograffias gadavxedavT,,

yovelTvis iq iyo,, sadac,, mmisi az-

riT,, yvelaze mmettad gammoadgeboda

qveyanas. axla mmSobliuur dmmanisis

raions sWirdeba mmisi gammocdileba.

ra akavSirebs dmmanisis raion-

Tan,, rattomm daTanxmmda ppolittikaSi

Cabmmas,, rogor appirebs raionSi ar-

sebuuli pproblemmebis mmogvarebas da

ranairad gegmmavs saarCevno kammppaniis

warmmarTvas _ amm da sxva SekiTxvebs

dmmanisis raionis mmaJorittarobis

kandidatti paata xizanaSviliuuppasuuxebs.

paata xizanaSvili: _ vfiqrob,

rom mkiTxvelisTvis saintereso iq-

neba vilaparakoT im mizezebze, ra-

mac politikaSi mosvlis survili

gamiCina. Cemi cxovrebis mTavari

idea usamarTlobasTan Seurigebeli

brZola iyo da aris, qarTvel

xalxs mravali qartexili gadagvi-

tania, axla ki bolo wlebis erT-

erTi yvelaze mZime omis mogeba

gvmarTebs. es iqneba gamarjveba sa-

kuTar Tavze, sisustesa da simxda-

leze, ampartavnebasa da damoukide-

beli azrovnebis deficitze, si-

Zulvilsa da cinizmze...

unda vaRiaro, `vardebis revo-

luciis~ Semdeg, sazogadoebis did

nawils, maT Soris mec, Cagvesaxa

imedi imisa, rom xelisuflebaSi

mosuli axali politikuri Zala

qveyanaSi demokratiul cvlilebebs

ganaxorcielebda. saxeldobr: dau-

pirispirdeboda marTvis klanur

sistemas, korufcias, proteqcio-

nizms, gaaTavisuflebda bizness sa-

xelisuflebo wnexisgan da sakuTa-

ri moqalaqeebis kanonier uflebeb-

sa da interesebs daicavda.

_ iseve rogorc bevri Cveni Ta-

namoqalaqe, Tqvenc imedgacruebuli

aRmoCndiT...

_ samwuxarod, xelisuflebaSi

mosulma axalma Zalam araTu ar ga-

naxorciela demokratiuli cvli-

lebebi, kidev ufro ganamtkica qve-

yanaSi totalitaruli mmarTveloba

da elitur-klanuri korufcia da-

amkvidra.

mmarTvelma Zalam, Zalauflebis

SesanarCuneblad, qveynis marTvis

iseTi sistema aago, romelic qvey-

nis aRmSeneblobas ki ara, ngrevas

emsaxureba. mmarTveli gundis mona-

morCilma parlamentma antisaxelm-

wifoebrivi, antimoqalaqeobrivi ka-

nonebi miiRo; faqtobrivad, abuCad

aigdo qveynis upirvelesi kanoni _

konstitucia, absoluturad ugu-

lebelyo saerTaSoriso samarTlis

elementaruli normebi da principe-

bi, sakuTari moqalaqeebis yvelanai-

ri ufleba SebRala...

sabolood, qveyanaSi Seiqmna

iseTi viTareba, roca xelisufle-

bis mmarTvel elitas usityvod

emorCileba sakanonmdeblo, aRmas-

rulebeli, sasamarTlo xelisuf-

leba da masmedia. faqtobrivad, qve-

yanaSi policiuri reJimi damyarda,

romlis mTavari amocana moqalaqeTa

daSineba-daSantaJebaa da ara maTi

dacva, rac civilizebuli saxelm-

wifos xelisufalTa upirvelesi

amocanaa.

_ axla saxelmwifos cxovreba-

Si yvelaze kritikuli momenti

dadga da misi radikaluri Secvlaa

saWiro...

_ marTlac erT-erTi yvelaze

kritikuli da gadamwyveti perio-

dia Cveni qveynis cxovrebaSi _ sa-

xelmwifoebriobasTan erTad gada-

sarCenia saqarTvelo, misi TiToeu-

li moqalaqe, maT Soris isinic,

vinc sxvadasxva garemoebis gamo

iZulebulia, axlandeli xelisuf-

lebis samsaxurSi iyos, an vinc Se-

egua arsebul situacias da moqala-

qeobrivad pasiuria. TiToeulma un-

da vitvirToT Cveni wili pasuxis-

mgebloba, rom Tavi davaRwioT sic-

ruiTa da cinizmiT gajerebul

mdgomareobas, rom CixSi moqceul

qveyanas gadarCenisa da ganviTarebis

perspeqtiva gauCndes.

_ amitomac aRmoCndiT biZina

ivaniSvilis gundis wevri, ufro me-

tic, koalicia `qarTul ocnebas~

warmoadgenT dmanisis raionSi. ro-

gorc cnobilia, koalicia deputa-

tobis kandidatebis SerCevisas

xelmZRvanelobda sami kriteriumiT:

cnobili saxeebi, adgilobrivi kad-

rebi da Tavis dargSi warmatebuli

profesionalebi, sazogadoebis

TvalsaCino warmomadgenlebi. mkiTx-

velisTvis sainteresoa, Tqven ra

kriteriumiT SegarCies?

_ jer erTi, deputatobis kan-

didatad mivdivar raionSi, sadac

davibade, cxovrebis garkveuli

wlebi gavatare da bolos da bo-

los, dmanisis raionSi ama Tu im

soflis mosaZebnad rukis moSveli-

eba ar mWirdeba. am aremareSi Cemi

winaprebi mravali saukunis win da-

saxldnen. amJamad, raionSi bevri Ce-

mi axlobeli Tu naTesavi cxovrobs

da Cemi gvaris fuZe aqaur toponi-

mikaSic aris asaxuli _ dmanisis

raionSi arsebobs xizanaanT ekle-

sia, xizanas wyaro, mTa...

Cems Sromis wignakSi pirveli

Canaweri sofel did gomareTSi,

jer kidev saSualo skolis peri-

odSi swavlisas gaCnda. amitomac

aqaurebis gasaWiri bavSvobidanve

vici da Tu rame ulxinT, esec

cnobilia CemTvis. pirovnuli Rir-

sebis sakiTxad mimaCnia, Tuki ram

SemiZlia, mSobliur raions wavad-

ge.

Tbilisis saxelmwifo universi-

tetis damTavrebis Semdeg, profesi-

iT inJiner-ekonomisti, 27 wlis

ganmavlobaSi administraciul

struqturebSi vmsaxurobdi, maT

Soris, saqarTvelos uSiSroebis

akademiaSi veweodi pedagogiur saq-

mianobas. _ vxelmZRvanelobdi pe-

dagogikisa da fsiqologiis kaTed-

ras. vimsaxure saqarTvelos Seiara-

Rebul ZalebSi xelmZRvanel Tanam-

debobebze, maqvs samxedro Cini _

polkovniki. bolo Svidi welia, sa-

banko sistemaSi vmuSaob _ `banki

qarTus~ sakredito departamentis

ganyofilebas vxelmZRvanelob. ase

rom, Tu trabaxad ar CamiTvliT,

albaT, kandidatTa SerCevis mxo-

lod erTi kriteriumiT ar Semar-

Cies.

Cemi mSoblebi pedagogebi iyvnen.

SesaZloa, vinmes piradul sakiTxad

moeCvenos, magram mainc unda vTqva

_ mamaCemi istorikosi gaxldaT da

surda, arqeologi gavmxdari-

yavi, rom udidesi istoriisa

da uZvelesi kulturiT ga-

morCeuli raionisTvis Tavi

gadamedo _ man piroba Camo-

marTva, lamis anderZad dami-

bara, dmanisi msofliosTvis

gamecno. TiTqos winaswar-

metyvelebda da guli mwyde-

ba, rom mamaCemi ver moeswro

dmanisis naqalaqarSi pirve-

li evropelebis sacxovrisis

aRmoCenas.

_ radganac ase axlo ur-

TierToba gqoniaT dmanisTan,

sxvaze ukeT gecodinebaT,

yvelaze metad ra probleme-

bi awuxebs iqaur mosaxleo-

bas?

_ Cvens raionSi, iseve

rogorc saqarTvelos TiTq-

mis yvela mTian regionSi, mouwyo-

beli infrastruqturaa: ar arse-

bobs gzebi, mosaxleobis gazifika-

cia ukve mravali welia, dauZleve-

li problemaa. erT-erT sofelSi

16 weliwadia Suqic ki ar aris.

arada, vidre axlandeli mmarTveli

gundi xelisuflebaSi movidoda,

raionis soflebSi intensiurad mim-

dinareobda gazifikaciis procesi _

gahyavdaT milebi da umokles xanSi

mosaxleobisTvis gazis miwodebac

igegmeboda. saakaSvilis xelisuf-

lebam Tavidanve fasaduri politi-

kis gatareba daiwyo da qveynis ga-

zifikaciis procesic piarisTvis ga-

moiyena _ milebi arsebobs, masSi ga-

zis gaSvebaze ki aravis arasodes

ufiqria. gazi, erTaderTi, mxolod

raionul centrSia, soflebi ki am

sikeTes moklebulia. dmanisi mdida-

ria tyeebiT da es procesi rom ar

SeCerebuliyo, warmoidgineT, ramde-

ni xe gadaurCeboda gaCexvas da eko-

logiuri safrTxeebic Semcirdebo-

da.

dmanisis raionSi ZiriTadad

Savmiwa niadagia da samwuxaroa, rom

amas bolomde da efeqtianad ver vi-

yenebT. bevria daumuSavebeli savar-

gulebic. Cems bavSvobaSi da Semd-

gom, mowiful asakSic, erT goj mi-

wasac ki ver naxavdiT daumuSave-

bels. aqaurebisTvis sruliad miuw-

vdomelia miwis damuSavebis yvela-

ze martivi sasoflo-sameurneo

teqnikac ki, romelic ara marto

Sromas Seumsubuqebda, aramed gle-

xis muSaobas ufro rentabelurs

gaxdida. qarTveli glexi, TiTqmis

yvelgan, miwas sakuTari xelebis

imedad erkineba. soflad, am mxriv,

isev XX saukunis dasawyisia da

glexs xar-kameCi da guTani Tu Se-

eSveleba isev. es imiT aris gamow-

veuli, rom sawvavi, realur fasTan

SedarebiT, sul cota, 70 TeTriT,

xelovnurad aris gaZvirebuli. me-

urnem misi yidvis fuladi resursi

romc moiZios, sawvavis siZviris ga-

mo mosavlis TviTRirebuleba izr-

deba da Sesabamisad, konkurencias

veRar uwevs ucxoeTidan Semotanil

saeWvo warmomavlobisa da albaT

janmrTelobisTvis mavne, genmodifi-

cirebul iaf produqcias. amas ema-

teba sairigacio sistemis ararsebo-

ba da sasmeli wylis deficiti.

dmanisis raionSi wamyvani dar-

gebia mesaqonleoba da miwaTmoqmede-

ba, romelic aqauri mkacri klima-

turi pirobebis gamo, mravalfero-

vani produqciiT ver gamoirCeva _

aq ZiriTadad saukeTeso jiSis eko-

logiurad sufTa kartofilis moy-

vana SeiZleba, romlis realizacia

aqauri mosaxleobisTvis yovelTvis

problemas warmoadgenda.

raionSi, romlis wamyvani dargi

mesaqonleobaa, faqtobrivad aRar

arsebobs saZovrebi _ igi `naciona-

luri moZraobis~ dmanisis deputa-

tis naTesaobam Caigdo xelSi da sa-

mi aTas heqtarze meti saZovari mo-

saxleobisTvis ukve xelmiuwvdome-

li gaxda.

saxelmwifos axlandeli mmarT-

veli gundis gaumarTlebeli poli-

tikis Sedegad, qveyanaSi uamravi

problema dagrovda. TiTo-orola

gamonaklisis garda, gansakuTrebiT

mZime dReSi aRmoCnda regionebi;

faqtobrivad, soflis meurneoba sa-

xelmwifoebrivi yuradRebis miRma

darCa iseT qveyanaSi, romlis ganvi-

Tarebis erT-erTi umTavresi prio-

riteti agraruli dargis ganviTa-

reba unda yofiliyo.

_ swored aseTi politikis Se-

degia, rom soflebi icleba. Tqven

iseTi suraTi daxateT, mosaxleo-

bis migracia Tqveni raionisTvisac

ar aris ucxo...

_ drouli SekiTxvaa. Cems dros

gomareTis skolaSi, albaT gagik-

virdebaT da, 1200 bavSvi swavlob-

da, daaxloebiT imdeni moswavle,

ramdenic Tbilisis Cveulebriv sa-

jaro skolebSia. amJamad ki, anu 30-

35 wlis Semdeg, 100 moswavleRaa.

asea sxva soflebSic. gausaZlisi

pirobebisa da elementaruli sayo-

facxovrebo pirobebis uqonlobis

gamo, verc gaamtyuneb, Tuki adamia-

nebi, TavianTi nebis sawinaaRmdegod,

mSobliur keras toveben. TiTqmis

arc erT sofelSi aRar SemorCa

medpunqtebi da xalxs elementaru-

li samedicino daxmarebis miRebis

saSualeba ar gaaCnia. isini, faqtob-

rivad, bedis anabarad arian mitove-

buli da amis gamo xSiria letalu-

ri SemTxvevebic. amasTan, farmacev-

tuli bazari, iseve rogorc sxva,

TiTqmis yvela momgebiani dargi mo-

nopolizebulia da mosaxleobas me-

dikamentebis yidvis saSualebac ar

gaaCnia.

_ dRes arsebuli praqtikiT, ma-

Joritari deputatis funqciebi

umeteswilad aRreulia _ Zneli ga-

samijnia, ra aris centralizebu-

lad mosagvarebeli problema da ra

_ adgilobrivi xelisuflebis kom-

petencia. Tqven ras fiqrobT, raio-

nis problemebidan ra iqneba Tqveni

upirvelesi sazrunavi?

_ sazogadoebas ver SevuqmniT

imaze met molodins, rac SegviZlia

am etapze gavakeToT. amitomac kar-

gad unda gaviazroT Cveni SesaZleb-

lobebi, romlebic realobas Seesa-

bameba. amis Sesabamisad unda davsa-

xoT da mosaxleobas SevTavazoT

axlandeli Tu Soreul perspeqti-

vaze gaTvlili gegmebi. koalicias

SemuSavebuli aqvs saxelmwifos

ganviTarebis safuZvliani koncefcia

_ saprogramo dokumenti, romelic

moicavs qveynis politikuri, soci-

aluri da ekonomikuri ganviTarebis

mimarTulebebs. maT Soris gansakuT-

rebuli adgili eTmoba regionebis

ganviTarebas.

erT-erT upirveles amocanad

mimaCnia mosaxleobis dasaqmeba, re-

gionaluri mcire sawarmoebis Seqm-

na, investiciebi, glexisTvis xelmi-

sawvdomi iafi kreditebi, biznesis

gaTavisufleba mudmivi SiSisgan da

zogadad samarTlianobis dabruneba.

Cven TiToeul moqalaqes unda gavu-

CinoT samarTlianobisa da pirovnu-

li Tavisuflebis, daculobis ganc-

da, radgan adamianis Rirseba samar-

TlianobaSia.

_ axlandeli mmarTveli gundi

azerbaijaneli eleqtoratis garan-

tirebul xmebs iRebda yovelTvis.

amis gaTvaliswinebiT, ras upirispi-

rebT nacionalebis `propagandis-

tul manqanas~, romliTac arsebuli

balansis Secvlas moaxerxebdiT?

_ propagandistul, cinizmiT

savse politikas unda davupirispi-

roT simarTle da patiosneba. Ti-

Toeulma adamianma unda SeZlos da

sakuTari xma daicvas, iswavlos ga-

dawyvetilebis damoukideblad mi-

Reba. Cven ar vupirispirdebiT kon-

kretul adamianebs, Cven unda visw-

rafvoT win sikeTisa da samarTli-

ani garemos Sesaqmnelad.

unda movaxerxo da arCevnebamde

darCenil mcire droSi TiToeul

sofelSi Cavide, sofel-sofel Ca-

moviaro, TiToeuli ojaxisa Tu

adamianis gasaWirs gavecno; davinte-

resdebi Cveni azerbaijaneli Tana-

moqalaqeeebis problemebiT, romle-

bic miviwyebulni arian yvelasgan

da xelisuflebas mxolod saarCev-

nod, xmebis misacemad axsendeba.

Cemi mama-papebisgan maxsovs, ro-

gor megobrobdnen isini azerbaija-

nelebTan. miuxedavad imisa, rom im

dros mimosvla gaZnelebuli iyo

utransportobis gamo, mainc axer-

xebdnen mWidro urTierTobebis dam-

yarebas. amJamad es tradicia moS-

lilia _ qarTvelebisa da azerbai-

janelebis megobrobis gza aq, dux-

Wiri cxovrebis gamo, karga xania,

sarevela balaxma dafara. unda ga-

ikvalos es biliki da aRarasodes

amovides iq balaxi.

adgilobrivi mosaxleoba aqtiu-

rad unda Caebas TavianTi probleme-

bis mogvarebaSi. me Cems jgufTan

erTad Seviswavli, Tu ra awuxebT

aqaurebs, am problemebis mogvarebis

gzebze Sesabamisi dargis specia-

listebTan erTad vimsjelebT, xo-

lo TviTon problemis mogvarebis

procesSi, rogorc aRvniSne, auci-

leblad mosaxleobasTan erTad viS-

romeb.

esaubra g. WavWavaZe

paata xizanaSvili: paata xizanaSvili:

`CixSi moqceul qveyanas gadarCenisa da ganviTarebisperspeqtiva gauCnda~

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11#34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi

saqarTvelos `leiboristul-

ma partiam~ oficialuri ganacxadi

Seitana saparlamento arCevnebSi

monawileobasTan dakavSirebiT da

rogorc partiis liderebma brZa-

nes, agrZeleben ukompromiso brZo-

las saakaSvil-ivaniSvilis mZarc-

velur, kriminalur, oligarqiuli

bandebis winaaRmdeg, romlebmac ga-

Zarcves, gaaRatakes da daaqcies es

qveyana. maTi umTavresi devizi iq-

neba `mdidars varTmevT, Raribs _

vaZlevT!~

`Tu ar ganeitralda es banda,

romelic daeufla mTeli qveynis

qonebas da gaaRataka, gaaRariba da

gaaubedura danarCeni mosaxleoba,

Tu amaT lagami ar amosvdeT, Tu,

kargi gagebiT, ar gavparseT da ar

movwveleT da es maTi naZarcvi qo-

neba xalxs ar davubruneT, ise, am

qveyanas gadarCena ar uweria~. vir-

CevT an gadarCenis gzas `leibo-

ristuli partiis~ (Salva naTe-

laSvilis saxiT), an virCevT oli-

garq mdidarTa gzas, romlebic ga-

agrZeleben am qveynis Zarcvas, ga-

agrZeleben am qveynis ngrevas, ga-

Ratakebas, Cvens daCagvras da Cvens

Svilebs amiTi movuspobT moma-

vals. Cven imedi gvaqvs, qarTveli

xalxi brZenia da gaakeTebs swor

arCevans~, _ aseTia maTi saerTo

azri.

saqarTveloSi, albaT, bevr

axsovs `vardebis revoluciamde~

batoni naTelaSvili wamdauwum

rom gaiZaxoda, zogierTebiviT

dalxinebuli ki ar var, samzareu-

loSi `leJankaze~ mZinavso. maSin

im msmenels Tu mayurebels egona,

baton Salvas (zogadad `leibo-

ristul partias~) tanSi dro da

dro rom `aJuilebs~, gamouZineb-

lobis braliao da gauTvlel Tu

piriqiT, kargad gaTvlil aca-baca

politikur nabijebs didsulov-

nad utevebda mSromelTa partiis

Tavkacs.

mas Semdeg, Tu meti

ara, sruli aTi weli mainc

gavida. baton Salvas aRar

uxsenebia `leJankaze~ Zili,

anu unda vivaraudoT, rom

`eSmakis manqanebiT~ rogor-

Rac SeZlo `kraotis~ SeZe-

na, magram raRac ucnauroba

ki dautrialdaT partiaSi,

amjerad sruliad `leibo-

ristuli Tavkacoba~ hgavs

gamouZinebels. gamouZine-

bels kidev ra uSavs, TiT-

qos, SeRamebulze, janmr-

Teli ZiliT rom unda eZi-

nos yvela normalur adami-

ans, mRviZared yofnas aiZu-

leben TiToeul maTgans da fsiqi-

kas uZilobiT uryeven. gamoiSle-

bian mere dRisiT da 10-TeTriani

`fiSkebiviT~ cxel-cxel gancxade-

bebs, saCivrebs, mowodebebs da po-

litikuri kulinariis sxvadasxva

Sedevrebs acxoben.

batonma Salvam brZana, vinc

vaSingtonSi, TeTr saxlTan Cems

politikur SeZaxils: `daun vi

diqteite! daun vi diqteite!~ ro-

melic ideaSi gulisxmobda

moTxovnas: `Zirs diqtatori!~

(Down The Dictation!) dascinebs,

mindorSi dagdebuli dakreWili

mkvdari viriao. dacinva ra sakad-

risia, piriqiT, orive xeliT unda

miesalmo diqtatoris Zirs Camog-

deb-CamobrZanebas, magram amxela

moTxovna rom aqvs adamians, an

adamianTa jgufs, mTlad Tu ara,

cota xom mainc unda gamoiZinon?

sxvas kidev, SeiZ-

leba, magram profesi-

idan gamomdinare, ba-

ton Salvas ra eswav-

leba, im sxvaze ukeT

icis, rogor urevdnen

(axla, ra Tqma unda,

sxva xerxs mimarTaven

saqarTveloSi) Tavg-

zas dakavebul pirs

uZilobiT.

gaugebaria, rat-

om ar iZinebs da arc

Tanapartielebs aZin-

ebs batoni Salva?

ar Semomedavos

romelime maTgani, mS-

venivrad var gamoZine-

buli da arc ZilSi

mimirtyams Tavi rame-

zeo, Torem, gamouZineblobas ra

uSavs, namdvilad uaress vifiqreb,

miTumetes, rom mxolod batoni

Salvas `leJankaze~ Zili ki ara,

sxvac bevri ram maxsovs aTi wlis

winandeli.

TaTariaxnad erT ambavs gavix-

seneb, batonebis, saakaSvilisa da

naTelaSvilis `gabaasebas~ 2003

wlis Tebervalis bolos paraske-

vis `Ramis kurierSi~.

mayurebels rom egona, amiran

da devi Seibmebian, ra gveSveleba,

daingreva `rusTavi-2-is~ miuker-

Zoebuli studiao, imedi gaucruv-

da _ miSa darigebuli bavSviviT

Cumad ijda (albaT, Salvas mier

misTvis daTmobili sakrebulos

skamis xaTriT da araa gamoricxu-

li isic, rom piarSikebs daerige-

binaT, ar aqoTqoTdeo), batoni

Salva ki, uberavda `kamaziviT,~

mxolod erTxel aijagra miSa.

aRar maxsovs, rasTan dakavSi-

rebiT, magram batonma Salvam bebia

uxsena miSas. bebiao?! `daanebe be-

biaCems Tavi!~ – ixuvla miSam.

bebiaSens mec did pativs

vcem, magram Sen rom parazitolo-

giis institutSi komkavSiris ko-

mitetis Tavmjdomare iyavi, mere

ki, SevardnaZis fraqciis Tavmjdo-

mare, eg rogor iyoo? _ miuRimi-

la saxeganaTebulma naTelaSvilma.

SevardnaZesTan Senc gadasare-

vad siamtkbilobdi, iuridiuli

komitetis Tavmjdomarec iyavi da

partkomic brZandebodi Tavis

droze, aba, jer Sen miTxari, eg

rogor iyoo? _ ar Seepua miSa.

`gabaaseba~ imiT damTavrda,

rom pirdapir eTerSi lamis xeli

moaweres erTmaneTis warsulze

Tavdausxmelobis paqts. maTi Jri-

amulidan bevri da didi veraferi

gaigo mayurebelma, magram is ki

cxadi gaxda, rom bebiebi aSkarad

sxvadasxva hyoliaT, rac Seexeba

babuas, oRond politikurs _ sa-

erTo da ara mxolod babua...

axla, am saeWvod ajanyebul

leiboristebs rom mohkres Tvali,

maT erT nawils, visac mexsiere-

ba SenarCunebuli aqvT, kiTxva da-

ebadaT, amaT, miSas da Salvas,

mxolod babua ki ara, naTliac sa-

erTo xom ar hyavT da Tanac ru-

sio? meore nawili gaepasuxa, ru-

si – ho, magram araa gamoricxuli

`kagebeSnikic~ rom iyoso.

gagixaria! – TiTqos maT gul-

Si ijdao, aliluiasaviT zepirad

Camoarakraka batonma Temur SaSi-

aSvilma iseTi eWvSeuvali ambebi

brifingze da ise garkveviT, rom

gamouZinebeli kaci ki ara, mZina-

rec rom gaigebs.

Temur SaSiaSvili: _ `Tqven

xedavT, rom yoveldRe mixeil sa-

akaSvili da misi gundi ras ar

akadrebs mis politikur oponen-

tebs da pirveli braldeba

aris ruseTTan urTierTobebi.

minda giTxraT, rom yvela biz-

nesmeni (Tqven SegiZliaT mki-

TxoT, romeli ar aris), rome-

lic dRes mixeil saakaSvilis

gverdiT aris, vinc xelSi Ca-

igdo `silqnetica~ da eleqt-

ronul mediasTan dakavSirebu-

li mTeli rigi sakiTxebi, yve-

la biznesmeni, romelic dRes

saarCevno procesSi dgas `na-

cionaluri moZraobis~ gver-

diT, yvela es xalxi aris Ca-

mosuli ruseTidan, ruseTis

fulia da ruseTis biznesia

maTTan dakavSirebuli.

saerTod, xelisufleba,

romelic internets akontro-

lebs, is xelisufleba im qvey-

nis xelisufleba aRar aris, am

qveyanaSi ki akontrolebs swo-

red is gundi, romelic ruse-

Tidan Camoiyvana batonma saa-

kaSvilma, Tanac, es is adamianebi

arian, romelTac seriozuli biz-

nesi aqvT. Cven ar vlaparakobT,

rom vinmem benzingasamarTi sadgu-

ri an restorani aaSena, aq aris

saubari milionebze, romelsac

isini mixeil saakaSvilis miTiTe-

biT ama Tu im regionSi deben. mTe-

li rigi organizaciebi gaakotres,

saintereso pirovnebebi da

maT Soris, xelSi Caigdes

saagentoebic.

dRes, praqtikulad,

araviTari Seferxeba ar

aqvT, pirdapir Tu iribad,

saqarTveloSi yvela Ziri-

Tadi biznesis ukan rusu-

li kompaniebi dgas. Cveni,

rogorc sabadoebi, aseve

energetika, tyeebi, buneb-

rivi resursebis Zalian

didi nawili, dakavSirebu-

lia ruseTTan.

generali generalovi,

romelic aris `kgb-is~ ge-

nerali, `dum-is~ wevri da

daaxloebuli xelisuflebasTan,

Zalian seriozul gavlenas axdens

rusuli biznesis ganviTarebaze sa-

qarTveloSi. es is generalovia,

romlis Camosvlis winaaRmdegi

2003 wlamde iyo albaT, bevri da

maT Soris mec, roca baton Sevar-

dnaZes vuTxari, rom Tu `kgb-is~

general;i generalovi saqarTvelo-

Si Camova, icodeT, rom amas yvela-

fers xmamaRla vityvi, rom ruse-

Tis fuli da ruseTis `kgb-is~

warmomadgeneli SemoiyvaneT saqar-

TveloSi – es saubari maSin Zali-

an mZimed Sedga.

praqtikulad, gadawyvetili

iyo, rom es biznesi Semosuliyo

da misi warmomadgeneli gaxldaT

bolnisis dRevandeli deputati

batoni nayofia, romelic viTom

gamovida am biznesidan – Svili

datova da misi Svilis (19 Tu 21

wlis) yovelTviuri xelfasi Se-

adgens naxevar milion lars Tve-

Si. pirdapir vambob, is aris `kgb-

is~ general generalovis warmo-

madgeneli saqarTveloSi. aseTive

mdgomareobaa WiaTura iqneba, zes-

tafoni Tu romeli, mniSvnelovani

rac aris CvenTan, yvelafris ukan

dganan rusuli kompaniebi.

gansakuTrebulad minda Seve-

xo `raoeess~. Tqven iciT, rom es

aris rusuli kompania, romelic

Semovida saqarTveloSi. rodesac

amerikelebi yiddnen `Telass~, ba-

tonma saakaSvilma atexa mTeli am-

bavi, ratom xdeba, rom amerikele-

bi gadian da rusuli kompania Se-

modiso _ Semdgom gairkva, rom ma-

Ti lobirebiT Semodiodnen da am

lobirebis magaliTebi grZeldeba

dRemde.

gaxsovT, maSin batoni Cubaisi

Camovida saqarTveloSi, Sexvda ba-

ton saakaSvils, Sexvda Zalian

bevrs, baton Jvanias, daregulirda

es saqme da daregulirebulia

dRemde. aseve gaxsovT, iyo aq di-

reqtori, Tu ar vcdebi, panfilo-

vi iyo misi gvari, romlis iubile

erTi wlis win taS-fanduriT aRi-

niSna saqarTveloSi, romelsac es-

wrebodnen maSindeli premier-mi-

nistri gilauri, qalaqis meri,

dRevandeli energetikis ministri,

uamravi ministri da saqarTvelos

xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebi.

amis Semdgomad sami ministri

Sexvda erTmaneTs somxeTSi, ruse-

Tis, somxeTisa da saqarTvelos

policiis maSindeli ministri ba-

toni vano merabiSvili, sadac mTe-

li rigi gadawyvetilebebi iqna mi-

Rebuli – ori Zlieri, me vityo-

di strategiuli hesi: `xrami-1~

da `xrami-2~, praqtikulad, gadae-

ca ruseTs.

jer kidev 1997-1998 wels

noRaidelis mier aris, rodesac

`raoeesi~ Semodioda da saboolo-

od oficialurad gaformdnen

2002-2003 wlebSi, rom 2014

wlidan unda gadaxediliyo fasebi

eleqtroenergiaze misi Semcirebi-

saken. rodesac es sami ministri

Sexvda erTmaneTs, es gadaido

2024 wlamde.

rusuli kompania `raoeesi~

saqarTvelos TiToeuli moqalaqis

jibidan, yovel kilovat/sT ener-

giaze iRebs 3-4 TeTriT mets,

romliTac unda Semcirebuliyo

fasi. Tu Tqven amas gadaiyvanT

TanxebSi, ras niSnavs es, ramdeni

kvt/sT-ia – es miliardebia.

ukve cnobilia, rom bolnisis

sabadoebidan, rac rusuli kompa-

nia damkvidrda, 2 miliard do-

larze meti aqvs miRebuli, anu sa-

qarTvelos fuli rusuli kompani-

is xelSi aRmoCnda saqarTveloSi.

isev vubrundebi `raoeess~,

panfilovi ganTavisuflda (2-3

Tvis win xdeba es yvelaferi) da

mis adgilze dainiSna somxeTis

moqalaqe. pirdapir vTqvaT, imis

gamo, rom xmebi miiRos xelisuf-

lebam iqidan, sadac kompaqturad

dasaxlebuli arian somexi erovne-

bis adamianebi saqarTveloSi, som-

xeTis Sss-is ministris lobire-

biT da ara mxolod misi, moxda

swored am pirovnebis daniSvna. sa-

qarTveloSi dRes `raoees-is~

xelmZRvaneli da ori pirveli pi-

ri vinc aris, oriveni arian

somxeTis moqalaqeebi da orive-

ni, erTi maRali rangis, meore

_ dabali rangis `kgb-is~ muSa-

kebi.

rogorc giTxariT, ori

moqalaqe Semovida somexi, xo-

lo ori _ qarTveli. TqvenTvis

sainteresoa, vin arian es qar-

Tvelebi – rusul kompania `ra-

oeesSi~ teqnikuri direqtori

(erT-erTi upirvelesi da um-

Tavresi figura) gaxda batoni

arsoSvili, (yofili guberna-

tori da yofili Ss ministris

moadgile-m.W) nu, axla, saqar-

TveloSi visac sjera, rom na-

cionalebis didi sayrdeni ar

aris, darCes mis azrze da meo-

re, xaCiZis yofili moadgile,

romelmac nacionaluri moZrao-

bis organizacia Camoayaliba

aWaraSi, vinme futkaraZe _

lojistikis departamentis

ufrosad dainiSna.

rogorc gavarkvieT, aseTi we-

si yofila, 12 kaci zis moskovSi,

`raoeesis~ did sabWoSi, xuTi TviT

adre urigdebaT pirTa biografiu-

li monacemebi da es 12 kaci iRebs

gadawyvetilebas, dainiSnos Tu ara

wardgeneli piri Tanamdebobaze. ver

getyviT, romelia energetikosi, an

ra urTierTobebi hqondaT enegeti-

kasTan, magram batoni arsoSvili

da batoni futkaraZe daniSnulebi

arian moskovSi arsebuli am sabWos

mier da maTi misvla `raoeesSi~ da-

iwyo imiT, rom politikuri niSniT

samsaxuridan gaaTavisufles (Cven

viciT, rom 300 kacis farglebSia)

adamianebi da maT adgilze mihyavT

mxolod `nacionalebis~ mier reko-

mendirebuli pirebi. (zurab arsoS-

vilma Tan gaiyola Tavisi megobre-

bi, e.w zonderebi: Semosavlebis

ganyofilebis ufrosad _ aleko

laSiaSvili; energogasaRebis ganyo-

filebaSi _ avTo metiviSvili; teq-

nikur samsaxurSi _ eliko qoba-

lia; Tavisi modeli meuRle TaTa

qarTveliSvili, `stereos~ yofili

wamyvani _ rac dadasturebulia _

m.W)

dRes, realurad, is somxeTis

moqalaqeebi saerTo xelmZRvane-

lobas ukeTeben kompanias, Torem

ZiriTad sakiTxebze muSaoben swo-

red arsoSvili da futkaraZe.

`nacmoZraobis~ ori mTavari saxe

rusuli kompaniis mTavari saxeebi

arian saqarTveloSi.

miSas da Salvas erTi naTlia xom ar hyavT _

rusi da Tanac `kakebeSniki?~

12 gv.

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12 saerTo gazeTi #34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.

Tu rogor emzadeba nacxelisufle-

ba arCevnebisTvis?? amis Sesaxeb `̀saerTo

gazeTs~ arasamTavrobo organizacia

`̀samoqqalaqqo frontis~ lideri jabajiSkariani esaubra.

_ jaba, rogorc amboben, vasil sa-

noZe gamojanmrTelebula da maRal pos-

tzec dauniSnavT. Tqven Tu gaqvT amis

Sesaxeb raime informacia?

_ ramdenadac vici, sanoZis dabrune-

ba undodaT Sss-s geninspeqciis ufro-

sis postze. im gaxmaurebuli faqtis

Semdeg giorgi gegeWkori daniSnes mis

adgilze, magram axla roca gegeWkori

saxlSi wavida, sanoZis am postze dab-

runebaze midis saubari. sazogadoebas

kargad axsovs misi araerTi kriminalu-

ri qmedeba, dawyebuli sandro girgvli-

anis mkvlelobiT. 2009 wlis mitinge-

bis dros CitaZis quCaze mdebare uSiS-

roebis samsaxuris aivnidan igi viTom

wylian parkebsa da `kistis~ Tofis

tyviebs esroda aqciis monawileebs, si-

namdvileSi ki pnevmaturi iaraRidan

pirdapir saxeSi, TvalebSi esroda

xalxs tyviebs. es iaraRi `kistis~

Tofze aTjer ufro mZlavria.

maRal Tanamdebobaze daniSnes megis

qardavas Zmac, romelic Tavis `saxelo-

van~ ZmasTan erTad uSualod monawile-

obda 2007 wlis 28 oqtombers zug-

didSi momxdar incidentSi, rodesac Za-

ladobrivad gauswordnen opozicione-

rebs. am pirovnebis saxels ukavSirdeba

zugdidSi arCevnebis gayalbeba, saarCev-

no yuTebis gataceba, adamianebis mota-

ceba, daSineba da muqara. sod-is axlad-

daniSnuli ufrosi irakli boWoriSvi-

li, 2009 wlis 28 maiss parlamentTan

ganxorcielebul darbevas xelmZRvane-

lobda. is kud-is 200-kacian zonderb-

rigadasTan erTad Semovarda furcela-

Zis quCidan. mis gamo zis dRes cixeSi

Cveni organizaciis wevri Salva gogi-

naSvili. Salvas boWoriSvilis daWra

daabrales da 15-wliani patimroba miu-

sajes. goginaSvils maSin e.w. duti

qurTuki ecva da iman gadaarCina, Torem

mis qurTukze basri sagniT miyenebuli

aTamde dazianeba daviTvaleT. am zon-

derjgufs TviTon hqonda basri iaraRe-

bi, romelsac umisamarTod iqnevdnen da

boWoriSvilic Tu marTla daWrili

iyo, TviTonve daWridnen. Salvas advo-

katma am qurTukze eqspertizis Catare-

ba moiTxova, magram saakaSvilis mona

mosamarTlem, es Suamdgomloba ar daak-

mayofila. goginaSvili roca daiWires,

piradad boWoriSvili xelmZRvanelobda

mis wamebas Zveli Tbilisis raionis po-

liciaSi. maSin am policiis ufrosi

irakli yifSiZe gaxldaT. axla isic da-

awinaures da Tbilisis Ss mTavari sam-

marTvelos ufrosad daniSnes. yifSiZem

pirad kontrolze aiyvana goginaSvilis

wameba, misi kabinetis gverdiT oTaxSi

scemdenen svel zewarSi gaxveul gogi-

naSvils da aiZulebdnen eTqva, rom rag-

bis federaciis yofili prezidenti bi-

Zina gegiZe kriminalia, mas hqonda civi

iaraRi da ukanono kriminalur dajgu-

febebs qmnida.

yvela es dawinaurebuli piri, dana-

Saulebrivi klanis wevrebi, e.w. zonde-

rebi arian. saakaSvili rom keklucobs,

qurduli instituti movspeo, ki ar

mospo, saxelmwifo rangSi aiyvana da

gacilebiT uaresi principebiT moqmede-

ben.

- xelisuflebas policiis da saer-

Tod Zalovnebis imedi hqonda yovelT-

vis da cxadia, axlac maTi ime-

di aqvs, rom daicaven. maT ami-

tomac anebivrebda, Tumca bolo

xans, aqtiurad vrceldeba xmebi,

rom am uwyebebis warmomadgen-

lebs xelfass veRar uxdian,

ufro metic operatiul avto-

manqanebs sawvavsac veRar usxa-

meno. ras fiqrobT, uxelfaso

formiani kaci am reJimis dasa-

cavad xalxs daupirispirdeba?

- daviwyeb imiT, rom aero-

portis gverdiT momzadebuli

aqvT 18 metri siganis specialu-

ri moedani, sadac Sss specrazms

ki ara, kriminaluri policiis

danayofebs amecadinebs. wvrTnis

dros gazis pistoletebs iyene-

ben, rezinis tyviebis samizneebic aqvT

gakeTebuli da mizanSi srolas aswav-

lian, im iaraRiTac amecadineben, rome-

lic mxolod erTxel, 2009 wlis 6 ma-

isis darbevis dros gamiyenes, roca or

adamians Tvali gamosTxares, danarCe-

nebs ki Tavebi dauxeTqes. es araleta-

luri iaraRia, romelic safantis tipis

tyvias isvris, 100 metris manZilze

moqmedebs, adamianis sxeulSi naxevari

santimetris siRrmeze Sedis da natyvi-

aris garSemo 10 santimetris diametr-

Si Slis da fleTs sxeuls.

ramdenadac vici, am proeqts Ss mi-

nistris TanamdebobaSenarCunebuli mo-

adgile Salva janaSvili xelmZRvane-

lobs. es aris `ruxi kardinali~, rome-

lic dRemde ar Cans. kuluaruli in-

formaciiT, 7 noembris mitingis dros

vano merabiSvils ki ara, swored mas

daureka saakaSvilma droze daarbieT

xalxi, raRas ucdiTo.

rac Seexeba policiis finansur si-

duxWires, mogexsenebaT, am uwyebas bi-

Zina ivaniSvili afinansebda. mimdinare

wlis 31 marts arsebuli kontraqti ga-

uqmda da dafinansebac Sewyda. saakaS-

vils saerTod uWirs ufulod mobili-

zeba. man bolo xans Sekriba `karis~

biznesmenebi, romlebsac fulis dadeba

sTxova. Cemi informaciiT `zaralas~

(yofili `mxedrioneli~ ramiSvili), ke-

zeraSvilsa da benduqiZes didi fuli

mosTxova da seriozuli Cxubic moxda,

radgan maT ar dades imdeni, ramdensac

saakaSvili arCevnebisTvis eloda. vfiq-

rob, es adamianebi grZnoben saakaSvilis

reJimi rom mTavrdeba da fiqroben, ar

gariskon, vinaidan xelisufleba Tu Se-

icvala da gaqceva mouwiaT, SeinarCunon

es fuli. esec iluziaa, radgan yvela

maTgans aucileblad movZebniT, erT

TeTrsac ar SevarCenT da yvelafers,

rac maT am wlebis ganmavlobaSi moipa-

res, biujetSi davabrunebinebT.

- jaba, xelisufleba rom masobrivi

gayalbebisTvis emzadeba, es aSkarad

Cans. amisTvis raime damatebiTi meqaniz-

mebic xom ar SeimuSaves?

_ amasTan dakavSirebiT seriozuli

informaciebi gvaqvs da vmuSaobT, vapi-

rebT gamoviyvanoT is adamianebi, rom-

lebic am yvelaferze Riad ilaparake-

ben. `saqarTvelos bankSi~ Tbilisis

meriam studentebis dasaqmebis prog-

rama daiwyo, maT pirdapir uniSnaven

xelfasebs, oRond jer piradobis

mowmobebs arTmeven, iqidan nomrebs

iweren da Semdeg ricxaven maT saTana-

do siebSi. sxvaTa Soris, amas hqvia

somxuri kareseli. arCevnebis wina

dRes am adamianebs dauZaxeben, miscemen

saarCevno biuletenebs, sadac xuTiani

winaswar iqneba Semoxazuli. am biule-

tens isini saarCevno kabinaSi Seitanen

Secvlian da yuTebSi ise Cayrian, ca-

riel biuletens ki meore dRes naci-

onalebs miutanen. es iqneba imis garan-

tia, rom maT namdvilad nacmoZraobas

misces xma.

isic minda giTxraT, rom marto

studentebs ki ara, bankis TanamSrom-

leblebs, maswavleblebsa da Cems uam-

rav Tbilisel nacnobsac SesTavazes ba-

Tumis jazfestivalze ufasod wagiy-

vanT, oRond piradobis mowmoba mogve-

ciTo. bolo ori Tvis manZilze, uamra-

vi axalgazrda daiWires iseTi wvril-

manisTvis, razec adre ar iWerdnen, ra-

Ta maTi mSoblebi da garemocva aiZu-

lon, rom saarCevno xmebi da piradobis

mowmobebi miutanon. dakavebulebs mere

gamouSveben da arCevnebSi gamoiyeneben.

saqme imaSia, rom am meqanizms veravin

SeebrZoleba, radgan am xalxs realu-

rad eqneba `nacmoZraobis~ sasargeblod

xma micemuli. amitomac vambob, 2008

wlidan moyolebuli, rom arCevnebi ar-

Cevnebamde unda movigoT da ara arCevne-

bis dRes. rogorc vici, mixeil maWava-

riani da xaTuna gogoriSvili arian am

yvelaferze momuSave Stabis wevrebi.

isini Sexvdnen Cems megobrebs, Tumca ar

icodnen, rom Cemi megobrebi iyvnen da

pirdapir SesTavazes, as piradobis mow-

mobas Tu moitanT 5000 lars mogcem-

To.

arsebobs safuZvliani eWvi, rom xe-

lisufleba am arCevnebSi gegmavs 65 Tu

80% daiweros. amasTan dakavSirebiT

`maestroze~ gasul siuJets, albaT,

yvela moismenda. am yvelafris Semdeg

merabiSvilis kai kacobaze saubari, ub-

ralod sircxvilia.

manana suxiSvili

Cems megobrebs pirdapir uTxres: asi piradobis mowmoba mogvitaneT

da 5000 lars mogcemTo

rusul kompaniaSi muSaobda (xan Tavisuf-

ldeba, roca gaakritikeben) da dRes, ramdenadac

viciT, aris _ mixeil maWavarianis Zma, romelic

dakavSirebulia bolnisTan; baramiZis Zma, rome-

lic dakavSirebulia Savi zRvis erT-erT por-

tTan; bokerias sidedri muSaobs `ra-o-es-Si~ da

ara mxolod is. energetikis ministris, batoni

xeTaguris 12-mde axlobeli maRali rangis war-

momadgenelia `ra-o-es-is~ sistemaSi. minda ico-

deT maTi xelfasebi _ 15 000 dolarze nakle-

bi arc erTs ar aqvs 30 000-40 000 dolaram-

de aris TveSi. ai, ase kargad arian ganawilebu-

li rusul kompaniebSi xelisuflebis warmomad-

genlebis ojaxis wevrebi.

maCvenon msoflioSi erTi kompania, Tundac

rusuli, sadac im qveynis mmarTveli politiku-

ri Zalis warmomadgenlebi arian warmmarTvele-

bi, igive somxeTSi, igive azerbaijanSi da sadac

gindaT, Tanac, es yvelaferi moxda arCevnebis

win.

kidev erTxel vambob, rusuli kompaniebi

arian yvelaze didi lobistebi am saarCevno pe-

riodSei mixeil saakasvilisa da ruseTidan Ca-

mosuli biznesmenebi...~

rac batonma Temurma Tqva, imis realur su-

raTs Tu ver xedaven `leiboristebi~, jandabas,

CavTvaloT, rom isev gamouZineblobis mizeziT

aqvT Tvalebi dabletili, magram Tu arc esmiT,

gamouZineblobasTan erTad mwvave otitis prob-

lemac hqoniaT.

SeiZleba, rusebisTvis miyiduli yvela obi-

eqti arc icodes kacma an yvela maTgani verc

gaixsenos, magram saqarTvelos ZiriTadi stra-

tegiuli obieqtebi mainc gamaxsovrdeba, miTume-

tes, rom ruseTzea miyiduli: `Telasi~, `Jin-

valhesi~, `varcixe 1~, `varcixe 2~, `varcixe 3~,

varcixe 4~, `xrami 1~, `xrami 2~, `xrami 3~ _

mflobeli `raoeesi~; `xrami 4~ _ mSeneblobis

nebarTva `raoeesis~ xelSekrulebiT; `xrami 5~,

`engurhesi~, gardabnis `me-9 energobloki~,

`gardabnis me-10 energobloki~, `Saorhesi~, `a-

Waris wyali~ _ mflobeli `energopro; `yazt-

ransgazTbilisi` _ mflobeli rusuli kompania

`energoinvesti~; `gumbaTi 1~ da `gumbaTi 2~ _

mflobeli CexeTSi registrirebuli rusuli

kompania `energopro~; `lajanurhesi~, `madneu-

li~, `kvarciti~, `Tbilisis wyali~, `elmavalm-

Senebeli~ _ es, rac gamaxsenda.

rogorc amboben, mxolod rkinigza da gaz-

sadeniRa darCa rusebisTvis gadasacemi da saoq-

tombrod, albaT, masac gadascemen, `engurhesi~

xom swored agvistos omis Semdeg gadaeca ru-

seTs, raTa ar `CamoSliliyo~ sisxliT naSeni

`nacxelisufleba~...

ragind moZule iyos kaci (Tu kacia) `ru-

seTis agent mZarcvel ivaniSvilisa~, is mainc

unda aRiaros, rom `am mZarcvels~ saqarTvelo

ar gauZarcvavs, piriqiT, lamis saqarTvelos bi-

ujetisodena Tanxa aqvs Sewiruli wlebis man-

Zilze saqarTvelosTvis, rom misi arseboba ar

icoda imave saqarTvelom.

ruseTis Tema rusuli fulianad rom yve-

la arsebuli parametriT TiTidan xelovnurad

gamowovili `buas Temaa~, karga xania, rac naTe-

lia. iqneb, sjobdes, yvela misma moZulem Tavis

wilad Tqvas, sinamdvileSi ratom ebrZvis yve-

la xerxiT ivaniSvils?

maia WeliZe

11 gv.

miSas da SalvaserTi naTlia

xom ar hyavT _ rusi da Tanac`kakebeSniki?~

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13saerTo gazeTi#34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.

prezident mixeil saakaSvilis 2011

wlis 15 noembris brZanebulebiT Seqmnilma

21 kacisgan dakompleqtebulma siebis da-

zustebis saxelmwifo komisiam, sadac mmar-

Tveli partiis, opoziciuri partiebisa da

arasamTavrobo organizaciebis warmomadgen-

lebi, mamuka kacitaZis TavmjdomareobiT er-

Tiandebian ,,kardakaris“ pirveladi monace-

mebi gamoaqveyna, romelic biujets oTxi mi-

lion oras ormocdaTeqvsmeti aTasi laris

daujda. komisiis mier gamoqveynebuli mo-

nacemebi ase gamoiyureba: saarCevno siebis

dazustebis saxelmwifo komisiam ,,kardaka-

ris” principiT 3 483 142 amomrCeveli Sea-

mowma. rogorc komisiis Tavmjdomare mamuka

kacitaZe acxadebs, ,,kardakaris” principiT

Semowmebisas gardacvlili aRmoCnda 25 949

amomrCeveli, sazRvargareT imyofeba 291 871

amomrCeveli, registraciis misamarTidan

moxsnilia 132 156, Sida migraciaSia 649

839, xolo kontaqti ver damyarda 183 621

amomrCevelTan. komisiis Tavmjdomaris mamu-

ka kacitaZis gancxadebiT, aRniSnulis sie-

bi saboloo araa, igi koreqtirebas eqvemde-

bareba da bolo monacemebi 15 seqtembers

gamoqveyndeba.

saxelmwifo komisiis paralelurad, al-

ternatiul kardakars ,,amomrCevelTa liga“

da ,,qarTuli ocneba“

axorcielebs. saxelmwifo

komisiis Sedegebis parale-

lurad ,,amomrCevelTa li-

gam“ Tbilisisa da zugdidis

masStabiT Catarebuli

kvlevis Sedegebi gamoaqvey-

na. Sedegebi ase gamoiyu-

reba: Tbilisis saerTo sia-

Si 903.171 adamiani iyo, aqe-

dan “amomrCevelTa ligam”

aRwera 732.554. gardacvlili aRmoCnda

5.048, ucxoeTSi wasuli - 41.226, daudge-

nelia - 97.735, misamarTi ar iZebneba -

21.013 da siaSi ar aris 9.016. misi ganmar-

tebiT, saerTo cdomileba, daaxloebiT, 21

procentia. aseve gamoqveynda zugdidis sie-

bic. siaSi saerTo raodenobaa 106.134, aqe-

dan aRwerilia 97.563, gardacvlilia - 824,

ucxoeTSi imyofeba - 2.059, daudgenelia -

12.655, misamarTi ar iZebneba - 2.757 da si-

aSi ar aris - 1201.

kaxa kaxiSvili arCevnebisa da poli-

tikuri teqnologiebis kvlevis centris

xelmZRvaneli: siebis dazustebis saxelmwi-

fo komisiis muSaobis Sedegad dadginda,

rom saqarTveloSi Sida migraciis maCvenebe-

li sakmaod maRalia, daaxloebiT, 7 000

adamianamde. didia im amomrCevlebis raode-

nobac, romlebic sxvadasxva adgilebze ari-

an miwerili da mesame erT-erTi did prob-

lebas sazRvargareT gasuli adamianebi war-

moadgenen, radgan maTi zusti raodenobis

dadgena ver moxerxda. Sss informaciiT, maT

saqarTvelos farglebs gareT gasuli saqar-

Tvelos moqalaqis maCveneblebi mxolod

2007 wlidan aqvT, manamde aseTi informaci-

as, ubralod, ar flobdnen.

_ sagareo saqmeTa ministris gadawy-

vetilebiT, sazRvargareT mcxovrebma

qarTvelebma arCevnebSi monawileobisTvis

unda warmoadginon Sesabamisi dokumenta-

cia sacxovrebeli adgilis Sesaxeb. mo-

gexsenebaT, rom Zalian bevri qarTveli

ucxoeTSi aralegalurad imyofeba, cxa-

dia, aseT dokumentacias ver waradgenen

da arCevnebSi monawileobasac ver miiRe-

ben, rogor fiqrobT, ras ukavSirdeba sa-

gareo uwyebis gadawyevtileba?

_ sazRvargareT myofi amomrCeveli

arCevnebSi monawileobis TvalsazrisiT,

xSir SemTxvevaSi, pasiurobas iCenda,

radgan garkveuli mizezebis gamo ar sur-

da sakonsulo aRricxvaze dadgoma, ris

gamoc verc arCevnebSi iRebda monawile-

obas. Tumca saqarTveloSi politikuri

procesebis gaaqtiurebis gamo, bevrma

qarTvelma, maT Soris vinc aralegalurad

cxovrobs, sazRvargareT saparlamento ar-

CevnebSi monawileoba gadawyvita. mogexsene-

baT, maTi umravlesoba opoziciuradaa gan-

wyobili. Aamitom am gadawyvetilebiT vaSa-

Zem, faqtobrivad, dabloka opoziciurad

ganwyobili amomrCevlebis arCevnebSi monawi-

leoba. es yvelaferi imis gaTvaliswinebiT,

xdeba, rom qarTveli kanonmdebloba ucxo

qveynis moqalaqes SesaZleblobas aZlevs

airCios saqarTvelos xelisufleba. saku-

Tar Tanamoqalaqeebs ki uars eubneba arCev-

nebSi monawileobaze. samwuxarod, xelisuf-

leba yvela meTods iyenebs, raTa opozici-

urad ganwyobilma amomrCevelma arCevnebSi

monawileoba ar miiRos. Sida migraciis maC-

veneblidan Tu vimsjelebT, faqtobrivad, 7

000-mde amomrCeveli arCevnebSi monawileo-

bas ver miiRebs, radgan Znelia da bevr ada-

mians gauWirdeba registraciis adgilze

misvla da arCevnebSi monawileobis miRe-

ba.Aaqedan gamomdinare, SeiZleba iTqvas, rom

xmebis es raodenobac dakargulia.

_ Tumca mamuka kacitaZis gancxadebiT,

saarCevno siis dazusteba 15 seqtembramde

gagrZeldeba. rogor fiqrobT, ra unda ga-

keTdes arsebuli xarvezebis aRmosafxvre-

lad?

_ problemebi im SemTxvevaSi mogvardeba

Tu amomrCevlebi im adgilis mixedviT dare-

gistrirdebian, sadac realurad uwevT cxov-

reba. am sakiTxTan mimarTebiT meore proble-

mac arsebobs, radgan bevr maTgans axali pi-

radobis mowmobis asaRebad Sesabamisi Tanxa

ar gaaCnia, ris gamoc Tavs ikavebs. imisTvis,

rom saarCevno siasTan dakavSirebiT ukeTesi

Sedegi gvqonoda arasamTavrobo seqtoris

warmomadgenlebma xelisuflebas winaswari

registraciis procesi SevTavazeT, razec

uari miviReT. sanacvlod, mmarTvel gunds,

Tundac Sida migraciis mosagvareblad, ara-

nairi qmediTi nabijebi ar gadaudgams.

_ konkretulad, ras gulisxmobT winas-

war registraciaSi, an ra saxiT unda momx-

dariyo?

_ winaswari registraciis safuZvelze

konkretuli adamianebi mividodnen amomrCev-

lebTan da realuri sacxovrebeli misamar-

Tis mixedviT moxdeboda amomrCevlis saar-

Cevno siaSi daregistrireba. winaswari re-

gistracia mogvcemda SesaZleblobas, saar-

Cevno siebSi dublireba ar yofiliyo, gavar-

kvevdiT umisamarTo adamianebis raodenobis

da sxva. Tumca, cxadia, rom Cveni winada-

deba umravlesobam ar gaiTvaliswina.

qveyanaSi Seqmnil politikur pro-

cesebTan dakavSirebiT ,,saerTo ga-

zeTs” politologi, ramaz sayva-reliZe esaubra.

_ batono ramaz, arCevnebamde ori

Tvea darCenili da SeiZleba iTqvas wi-

nasaarCevno kampania piks uaxlovdeba.

matulobs sityvieri, Tu fizikuri da-

pirispireba ivaniSvilsa da saakaSvi-

lis mxardamWerebs Soris, rogor

fiqrobT sadamde SeiZleba mivides es

situacia?

_ mas Semdeg, rac politikaSi bi-

Zina ivaniSvili gamoCnda procesebis

am mimarTulebiT ganviTareba namdvi-

lad mosalodneli iyo. biZina ivaniS-

vilisa da misi koaliciis arCevnebSi

gamarjvebis SesaZlebloba, rac uf-

ro izrdeba da es xdeba sakmaod

TvalsaCinod koaliciis aqciebis sa-

SualebiT, paralelurad mcirdeba

xelisuflebis SesaZlebloba Seinar-

Cunos is mdgomareoba, rac dRes

aqvs. im SemTxvevaSi, Tu xelisufle-

bam arsebuli mdgomareobis SenarCu-

neba ver moaxerxa niSnavs imas, rom

elitaruli korufciiT mopovebul

qonebasa da arasamarTliani gziT gamo-

tanil ganaCenebs seriozuli safrTxe

daemuqreba.

_ batono ramaz, ras fiqrobT mi-

xeil saakaSvilisa da biZina ivaniSvi-

lis taqtikaze arCevnebSi gasamarjveb-

lad?

_ mixeil saakaSvili swori taqti-

kiT, rom ar midioda, TviTonac kargad

dainaxa. ris gamoc merabiSvili premi-

erad daniSna da konkretuli davaleba

misca: daimsaxuros xalxis keTilgan-

wyoba. saakaSvili xvdeba, rom mas sa-

zogadoebis keTilganwyoba aklia da

icis, daSinebiTa da zewoliT, mxolod

SiSis mopovebaa SesaZlebeli da ara

keTilganwyobas.

_ ivaniSvilis winasaarCevno taq-

tikis Sesaxeb ras fiqrobT?

_ biZina ivaniSvilis winasaarCeno

piari martivi da gamWvirvalea da dam-

yarebulia aqciebze. daTqvams aqciis

dros, cdis sakuTar Zalas, ramdeni

mxardamWeri hyavs. aqciebze ki xalxis

sakmaod didi raodenoba modis, rac

imis dasturia, rom ivaniSvils sakma-

od bevri mxardamWeri hyavs.

_ ivaniSvilis azriT, xelisufle-

ba arCevnebis totalurad gayalbebas

ver SeZlebs. rogoria Tqveni pozicia,

eTanxmebiT ,,qarTuli ocnebis” lide-

ris pozicias?

_ gaaCnia, ivaniSvili arCevnebis

totalurad gayalbebaSi ras gulisx-

mobs. sxvadasxva qveynebSi totaluri

gayalbebis maCvenebeli 10%. magali-

Tad, saakaSvilma saprezidento arCev-

nebSi xmebis 20% gayalbebac moaxerxa.

ivaniSvils politikaSi Semosvli-

sas sxva molodini hqonda, ris gamoc

ar moagvara moqalaqeobis da arc mos-

kovSi misi biznesis sakiTxi. albaT, bi-

Zina ivaniSvils mixeil saakaSvilis

gundTan adrindeli urTierToba iseT

STabeWdilebas utovebda, rom dapiris-

pirebis miuxedavad, misi misamarTiT

pativiscemas gamoiCendnen. ganvlil pr-

ocesebs Tvals Tu gadavavlebT, iva-

niSvilis molodini ar gamarTlda.

_ biZina ivaniSvilma saqarTvelos

regionebis umetes nawilsa da Tbilis-

Si maJoritari kandidatebi daasaxela.

misi TqmiT, maJoritarebis umravleso-

ba misaRebia, Tumca ,,qarTuli ocnebis”

lideri maJoriatarebis siaSi koreq-

tirebas ar gamoricxavs. rogor fiq-

robT, ra gaxda cvlilebis mizezi da

ramdenad dadebiTad imoqmedebs ,,qar-

Tul ocnebaze” maJoritarebis gadaad-

gileba?

_ garkveuli TvalsazrisiT, swori

iyo is, rom ivaniSvilma maJoritarebi

pirvelma dasaxela, magram sirTulee-

bic gaiCina im kuTxiT, rom sxva opo-

ziciuri partiebis kandidatebis dasa-

xelebis Semdeg erT raionSi ramdenime

Zlierma opoziciurma kandidatma moi-

yara Tavi, ris gamoc saWiroa erTia-

ni opoziciuri kandidatis dasaxeleba.

faqtobrivad, opozicia aseTi ara-

koordinirebis gamo Zlier figurebs

dakargavs. Tumca, SesaZlebelia, kvlav

Sesworebebi moxdes da opoziciam Se-

Tanxmeba erTian maJoritar kandidateb-

Tan dakavSirebiT moaxerxos.

_ arCevnebi ukve pirvel oqtombers

orSabaT dRes dainiSna. rogoria Tqve-

ni damokidebuleba saparlamento ar-

Cevnebis TariRisadmi?

_ mgonia, daniSnes imis gamo, rom

pirveli oqtomberi biZinaobaa. mogexse-

nebaT, saakaSvili TariRebs simbolur

mniSvnelobas aniWebs. orSabaTi dRe xe-

lisuflebisTvis im kuTxiTacaa misaRe-

bi, rom ucxoeTSi mcxov-

rebi qarTvelebi arCevneb-

Si monawileobas naklebad

miiReben, radgan orSabaTi

samuSao dRea. amasTan,

iuristebis mxridan sain-

tereso poziciac gaCnda,

gamoricxuli araa saakaS-

vili parlamentis daTxov-

nisTvis emzadebodes da

amas garkveuli vadebi

sWirdeba da Cqarobs Tavis

prezidentobis periodSi

moaswros sakanonmdeblo

organos daTxovna.

_ saubroben, rom ru-

seTi saqarTveloSi Semo-

sasvlelad emzadeba da amisTvis sa-

fuZvels ,,qarTuli ocneba” umzadebs.

ras fiqrobT amis Sesaxeb?

_ zogadad, konfliqti sust mxa-

res awyobs da susti mxare am SemTx-

vevaSi ,,nacionaluri moZraobaa”. mmar-

Tvel gunds ruseTTan konfliqti Se-

saZloa, dasWirdes imisTvis, rom ar-

Cevnebi saerTod CaSalos.

gverdi moamzada

miranda nabaxtevelma

xelisufleba yvela meTods iyenebs, raTa opoziciurad ganwyobilma amomrCevelma

arCevnebSi monawileoba ar miiRos

`nacionalur moZraobas~ ruseTTankonfliqti, SesaZloa, imisTvis

dasWirdes, rom arCevnebi CaSalos

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`vardebis revoluciidan~

dRemde saerTaSoriso demokratiu-

li institutebi Tvals xuWavdnen

imaze, Tu rogor sastikad uswor-

deboda nacmoZraoba da misi lide-

ri Tavis politikur oponentebs

da uswordeboda, faqtobrivad, er-

Ti da igive primitiuli scenariT,

erTi da igive xerxebiT da meTo-

debiT, rac imis dasturia, rom xe-

lisufleba TviTonve Txzavda am

`danaSaulobaTa~ siuJetebs, Tvi-

Tonve dgamda scenebs, TviTon wer-

da da TviTon axmovanebda misTvis

sasurvel `mamxilebel~

testebs.

Cven yvelas kargad

gvaxsovs saidumlo ki-

no da telestudiebSi

Seqmnili `dokumentu-

ri~ videofilmebi, `do-

kumenturi~ audioCana-

werebi da sxva `mamxi-

lebeli~ masalebi, rom-

lebic siuJetiT, Sina-

arsiT, Sesrulebis teq-

nikiT tyupis calebiviT

hgavda erTmaneTs, ubra-

lod, am `mxatvrul-

dokumentur~ produq-

ciaSi situaciis da sa-

Wiroebis mixedviT personaJebi ic-

vlebodnen SigadaSig da Salvas

igori cvlida, igors badri, bad-

ris `greCixa~, grexiCas _ nino da

a.S. da a.S.

Cven is qveyana varT, sadac da-

idga istoriuli `filmebi~: `enve-

ri~, `koWoia da misi Zmebi~, fil-

mi pirobiTi saxelwodebiT `bad-

ris ra?~ modelirebuli qronikis

specialuri gamoSveba 2008 wlis

agvistos omis siuJeturi qargis

gamoyenebiT, `boeviki~ _ `muxrova-

nis ajanyeba~, moklemetraJiani

filmebi sxvadasxva wvrilfexa da

msxvilfexa `Spionebze~ da `agen-

tebze~.

am cxra wlis ganmavlobaSi sa-

qarTvelos `fxizelma~ da `goneba-

gamWriaxma~ xelisuflebam aRkveTa

ramdenime `SeTqmuleba~, ramdenime

`saxelmwifo gadatrialebis~

mcdeloba, cixeebSi Cayara jaSu-

Sobasa da saxelmwifos winaaRmdeg

mimarTuli agenturul saqmianoba-

Si braldebuli aseulobiT adami-

ani.

rogorc vTqviT, saqarTvelos

xelisufleba Tavs ar iwuxebs axa-

li scenarebis da axali siuJete-

bis gamogonebiT. is mravaljer ga-

moyenebul da mravaljer nacad er-

Ti da igive `balvankas~ iyenebs mi-

zanSi amoRebuli axali msxverp-

lis gasanadgureblad da arc ara-

visi rcxvenia da arc aravisi eri-

deba.

* * *

Tu gavixsenebT am xelisufle-

bis mier badri patarkaciSvilis

winaaRmdeg ganxorcielebuli sa-

damsjelo RonisZiebebis drama-

turgias, is erTi-erTSi jdeba im

gegmaSi, romliTac biZina ivaniSvi-

lis CaZirvas da politikuri pro-

cesebidan mis CamoSorebas apire-

ben.

patarkaciSvilTan dakavSirebi-

Tac ase iyo _ jer patarkaciSvi-

lis kuTvnili `standartbanki~ ga-

anadgures, gayines patarkaciSvi-

lis yvela sabanko angariSi, daar-

bies da miiTvises telekompania `i-

medi~, gadaketes yvela arxi, sai-

danac SeiZleboda Tanxebi Semosu-

liyo patarkaciSvilis sateliti

partiebis da saerTod, qveyanaSi

mimdinare politikuri procesebis

dasafinanseblad, patarkaciSvilis

kapitali rusul kapitalad, xo-

lo TviTon patarkaciSvili ruse-

Tis agentad da misi dakveTis Sem-

sruleblad gamoacxades, rac Sem-

dgom sababad gamoiyena zogierTma

`patriotma~ politikosma _ Cven

rusul fuls xels rogor movki-

debT da ruseTis kacTan rogor

viTanamSromlebTo, Tumca, rogorc

amboben, patarkaciSvilis fulisT-

vis xelic kargad hqondaT mokide-

buli da gemoc mSvenivrad hqondaT

gasinjuli.

samwuxarod, qarTu-li politikis jungleb-Si dRemde daTareSobspolitikosebad wodebu-li bandebis jgufi, rom-lebic xan erT SeZlebuladamians Zarcvaven, xanmeores, xan _ mesames, me-re ki ganze dgebian da pa-tiosani, umwikvlo darac mTavaria, patriotimoqalaqeebis niRbebsirgeben.

swored aseTma bandebma imsxver-

ples patarkaciSvili _ milionebi

waRlites, kritikul momentSi ki

uRalates da marto datoves.

sakmarisia, qarTuli politi-

kis junglebSi vinme SeZlebul

adamians Semoucdes fexi da es ban-

debi myisve mis garSemo iwyeben

wrials da warwals, rom axal

msxverpls rac SeiZleba Rrmad Ca-

uZvrnen jibeSi, mere rac SeiZleba

Rrmad CauZvrnen mkerdSi da saWi-

ro momentSi guli amoaWamon.

marto fuliWamia ki ara, gu-

liWamia afTrebi arian eseni _

afTris siveragiT, afTris daun-

doblobiT da sixarbiT daRdas-

mulni.

zogierTi maTgani dRes ivaniS-

vilis karTan dasunsulebs, zogi

xelisuflebas Sehymuis da Sesci-

cinebs, nadavls ki oqtomberSi,

arCevnebis periodSi daiTvlian da

gaiyofen, albaT.

* * *

aris aseTi poli-

tikosi _ daviT gamy-

reliZe _ eqimi, mewar-

me, politikosi.

swored ase gvac-

nobda gamyreliZis mra-

valprofilian una-

rebs. klipi, romelic

gamyreliZes saarCev-

nod misma amerikelma

`piarSCikebma~ daumza-

des.

am klipis da saar-

Cevno kampaniis dros

gaweuli sxva piarmom-

saxurebisTvis, `maRalkvalifici-

urma~ amerikelma specialistebma

maRali honorari, dauzustebeli

informaciiT, 700 000-mde dola-

ri waiRes da wavidnen, eqimi, me-

warme, politikosi gamyreliZe ki

`maRalkvalificiurebis~ daxmare-

bis miuxedavad arCevnebSi Caflav-

da.

klipSi gvaCvenebdnen eqimis xa-

laTSi gamowyobil gamyreliZes

avadmyofebTan, Tumca ar uCvenebi-

aT misi warCinebuli mewarmeobis

damadasturebeli faqtebi, faqte-

bi, romlebic gamyreliZis kuTvni-

li sadazRvevo kompania `aldagis~

wyalobiT mTelma qveyanam icis.

SevardnaZesTan damis samTavrobo struq-turebTan, gansakuTre-biT Sss-sTan da mis mi-nistrTan SeZmakacebul-Sexmatkbilebulma gamy-reliZem `aldagis~ saSu-alebiT, rogorc ambo-ben, didi fuli iSova.

gamyreliZe Sevardna-Zis `mefobis~ dros, ro-gorc ityvian, duRda dagadmoduRda.

`moqkavSirTan~ Zmobis fic-ver-

cxliT Sekruli misi politikuri

organizaciac hyvaoda da ifurCqne-

boda, Tumca `vardebis revoluci-

am~ gamyreliZis triumfaluri

msvleloba daamuxruWa, magram gam-

yreliZe ar dabneula _`aldagi~

gayida da mTeli TaviT politika-

Si gadaeSva da yofilma warmate-

bulma mewarmem politikaSi gan-

sacvifrebeli komerci-

ul-mewarmuli niWiereba

da elastiuroba gamoav-

lina.

konkretulad raSi

gamoixateboda es, amaze

saubari sxva droisTvis

gadavdoT, aq ki imis aR-

niSvniT davkmayofildeT,

rom `moqkavSirTan~, anu

mmarTvel partiasTan me-

gobruli da partnioru-

li urTierTobis sitk-

bonagemma gamyreliZem

`nacmoZraobis~ mowyale

gulisken misasvleli

gzebic male gamoZebna.

moarul xmebs Tu da-

vujerebT, pirveli `sdelka~ `nac-

moZraobasa~ da gamyreliZes Soris

maSin Sedga, roca gamyreliZem

2008 wlis saparlamento arCevne-

bis dros opoziciuri partiebis

gamarjvebul kandidatebsa da xe-

lisuflebas Soris momrigeblisa

da Suamavlis roli Seasrula.

`dazaralebulTaTvis~ gankuTv-

nili sakompensacio Tanxa, `zemo-

dan~ gamogzavnili, boroti xmebis

mtkicebiT, gamyreliZis ofisSi mi-

itanes da iqidan dauriges `meambo-

xeebs~.

gamyreliZem saarCevno garemos

gaumjobesebisTvis gamarTul xang-

rZliv diskusiaSic danebebis niS-

nad pirvelma aRmarTa TeTri ala-

mi, ris sanacvlodac partiam seri-

ozuli honorari, xolo `memarj-

veneebis~ erT-erTma liderma kaci-

taZem amomrCevelTa siis dazuste-

bis uzrunvelyofis komisiis Tavm-

jdomaris posti miiRo.

rogorc `amomrCevelTa liga~

amtkicebs, sia 17-20 procentiT

aris gayalbebuli, Tumca kacita-

Zis komisias es sagangaSo ambavi

arc SeumCnevia.

daviT gamyreliZemwlis dasawyisSi `xatzedaifica~, rom `memarjve-neebs~ parlamentSi Seiy-vans Tu arada, gadadge-ba.

rogor apirebs urei-tingo, saxelgatexilida ndobadakarguli par-tiis lideri amis gake-Tebas? rogorc Cans, nac-moZraobasTan partnio-robiT da arCevnebis ga-yalbebaSi wilSi Cajdo-miT.

gamarjvebis sxva San-si `memarjveneebs~ araqvT!

aaxxllaa kkii ggTTaavvaazzoobbTT iinntteerrvviiuuss

ddaavviiTT ggaammyyrreelliiZZeessTTaann,, rroommeelliicc

`̀pprraaiimmttaaiimmSSii~~ ddaaiibbeeWWddaa::

daviT gamyreliZe,, `̀aaxxaallii

mmeemmaarrjjvveenneeeebbiiss~~ lliiddeerrii::

_ biZina ivaniSvili daJinebiT

acxadebs, rom man unda aiRos sa-

konstitucio umravlesoba, rac

mxolod erTaderTi gziT _ revo-

luciiT aris SesaZlebeli. dRes

Cveulebrivi saarCevno procesi

warmoudgenelia, rom erTma poli-

tikurma Zalam, Tundac miliar-

derma, 3/4 miiRos momaval parla-

mentSi da konstituciuri umrav-

lesoba gaakontrolos. meore

mxriv, mis mier dafinansebuli `a-

momrCevelTa liga~ pirdapir qmnis

fons da ganwyobas, rom amomrCe-

velTa siebSi aris uamravi Secdo-

ma. isini Segnebulad axdenen mamu-

ka kacitaZis komisiis diskredita-

cias. mizani ki erTia _ momzaddes

foni, rom arCevnebis Semdeg sie-

bis gayalbebis mizeziT xalxi qu-

CaSi gamoiyvanon da daiwyos revo-

luciis procesi. igive mizans em-

saxureba regionebSi Catarebuli

aqciebic. es aris garkveuli re-

peticia, rom Semdeg ara mxolod

TbilisSi, aramed regionebSic er-

Tdroulad moxdes xalxis gamos-

vla da Zalauflebis xelSi aReba.

es aris Cemi varaudi da Tu is ar

gamarTldeba, mzad var, amis gamo

bodiSi movixado, Tumca mgonia,

rom is yvelaferi, rasac ivaniSvi-

li akeTebs, am mizans emsaxureba,

ara mgonia, rom ivaniSvils saku-

Tari milionebis xarjva undodes

imisTvis, rom parlamentSi 38-40

an Tundac 50 adamiani Seiyvanos.

misTvis erTaderT SemTxvevaSi iq-

neba es xarji gamarTlebuli: _

Tu is absolutur Zalauflebas

aiRebs xelSi. am survils ivaniS-

vili arc malavs. mas surs, rom,

ubralod, saakaSviliviT erTpi-

rovnuli mmarTveli iyos. sxva

SemTxvevaSi, warmoudgenelia amxe-

la Tanxebis daxarjva im arCevneb-

Si, romelSic Tavad ar monawile-

obs.

__ ggaammooddiiss,, rroomm iivvaanniiSSvviillii eemm-

zzaaddeebbaa aarraa aarrCCeevvnneebbiissTTvviiss,, aarraammeedd

SSeemmddggoommii ppeerriiooddiissTTvviiss,, rraaTTaa ggaa-

yyaallbbeebbaa mmooiimmiizzeezzooss ddaa rreevvoolluucciiaa

mmooaawwyyooss??

_ ra Tqmaunda gamixardeba. Tu

arCevnebis Semdeg yvelani, xeli-

suflebac, ivaniSvilic da yvela

Zala aRiarebs im Sedegebs, rasac

xalxi Tavisi arCevnebiT gadawy-

vets, magram, samwuxarod, ivaniSvi-

lis koaliciis dRevandeli gan-

cxadebebi da moqmedebebi metyve-

lebs imaze, rom swored arCevnebis

Sedeg gegmavs revoluciuri scena-

ris ganviTarebas. is Seecdeba am

gziT aiRos absoluturi Zalauf-

leba.

xelisufleba male gamorekavs agvistos cxeli Rameebidan `jaSuS koWoiebs~, romlebicTiTs biZina ivaniSvilisken gaiSveren...

ra sqemebs amuSavebs xelisufleba

biZina ivaniSvilis winaaRmdeg?

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15saerTo gazeTi#34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.

...ivaniSvilma arCevnebSi 45

procentic rom aiRos, am sistemis

pirobebSi es imas sulac ar niS-

navs, rom ufro meti deputati

eyoleba, vidre ormocdaaTi. mas ki

unda, rom 150-ian parlamentSi

100 da 120 deputati hyavdes. es

warmoudgenelia. amitom ityvian,

rom arCevnebi gayalbda da iqneba

mowodeba quCaSi gamosvlaze. ne-

bismieri sxva Sedegi, garda erTi-

sa _ aiRos Zalaufleba. misTvis

iqneba miuRebeli da xalxs pro-

testisa da daumorCileblobisken

mouwodebs. ...kvlevebis Sedegad 27

procenti ambobs, rom mzad aris

gavides quCaSi. es sakmaod maRali

ricxvia. ra Tqma unda, es ar niS-

navs, rom marTlac 27 procenti

gamova. Tumca es mainc sakmarisia

imisTvis, rom areuloba Seiqmnas

da garedan daxmarebis imedi gaCn-

des.

__ rruusseeTTss gguulliissxxmmoobbTT??

_ gamovricxav, rom rusebi

pirdapir Semovidnen, an SemoiWran,

magram, bunebrivia, ruseTi Seecde-

ba, rom amaze xmauri atexos da sa-

erTaSoriso azris mobilizeba mo-

axdinos. sakmaod saxifaToa es yve-

laferi...~

naTelia, am interviuSi daviT

gamyreliZe xelisuflebis im dema-

gogiur scenars axmovanebs, romli-

Tac xelisufleba winaswar qmnis

safuZvels im braldebebisTvis,

romlebsac is upirebs wauyenos

ivaniSvils arCevnebis Semdeg sap-

rotesto gamosvlebis SemTxvevaSi.

Turme nu ityviT da gamyreli-

Zis (igulisxmeT xelisuflebisac)

mtkicebiT, ivaniSvilisTvis ara

aqvs mniSvneloba sinamdvileSi ga-

yalbdeba Tu ar gayalbdeba arCev-

nebi. es ivaniSvils ar ainteresebs.

mas ainteresebs revoluciis

mowyoba, arCevnebi ki misTvis mxo-

lod da mxolod sababia, mizezia

revoluciis dasawyebad.

ra unda qnas am SemTxvevaSi xe-

lisuflebam? gulxeldakrefili

xom ar daelodeba `revolucione-

ri~ ivaniSvilis mier sabrZolo

moqmedebebis dawyebas da qveyanaSi

areulobis, samoqalaqo dapirispi-

rebis eskalacias?

xelisufleba, rogorc TviTon

ambobs TavisTavze, sakuTar xalx-

ze usazRvrod Seyvarebuli xeli-

sufleba, stabilurobis, wesrigis,

demokratiuli ganviTarebis garan-

ti, valdebulic ki aris yvelafe-

ri gaakeTos `SfoTisTavi~ ivaniS-

vilis `avanturistuli zraxvebis~

aRsakveTad.

da, ai, aq amoqmeddebais scenari, romelic xe-lisuflebas bevrjergamouyenebia ivaniSvil-isnairi `buntovSCike-bis~ gasaneitraleblad_ sadRac, romeliRacsardafSi, sadRac, rome-liRac tyeSi, sadRac,romeliRac baRCaSi, qar-Tveli Serlok holmsebiuceb `aRmoaCenen~ did-Zal iaraRs, romelsacTurme ivaniSvili imara-gebda arCevnebis Semdegomis dasawyebad.

es iaraRi rom namdvilad iva-

niSvilisaa, amis damdasturebeli

pirebic gamoCndebian, romlebic

`gulaxdil~ Cvenebebs miscemen sa-

marTaldamcavebs.

paralelurad nacionaluri

telearxebis ekranebze gamoCndeba

axali `dokumenturi videofilmi~,

sadac sadRac `romeliRac~ kons-

piraciul binaSi, sadRac romeli-

Rac restoranSi Tu kafeSi sai-

dumlod Sekrebili adamianebi sai-

dumlod ilaparakeben arCevnebis

Semdeg saerTo-saxalxo ajanyebis

saidumlo gegmis detalebze, daw-

vrilebiT aRweren, sad da rogor

unda daiwyos areuloba, vis ra

davaleba eqneba, am areulobis

dros, vin ra unda gaakeTos da a.S.

saxelmwifos winaaRmdeg mimar-

Tuli `SeTqmulebis~ monawileebi

saubris dros aucileblad bevr-

jer axseneben biZina ivaniSvilis

saxels, rogorc am revoluciis

mTavar organizators da xelmZR-

vanels.

aseve aucileblad iqneba naxse-

nebi ruseTi, rogorc am revolu-

ciis SemkveTi da damfinansebeli,

romelic, saWiroebis SemTxvevaSi,

qveyanaSi SemoiWreba da ajanyebu-

lebs daexmareba.

`dokumenturi~ filmis, iara-

Ris maragis `aRmoCenis~ da sxva

mamxilebeli masalebis gverdig-

verd gaCndeba satelefono saubre-

bis faruli Canawerebi, romlebic

kidev ufro ganamtkiceben ivaniSvi-

lis `veraguli~ gegmis realurad

arsebobis namdvilobas. yovelive

amis Semdeg xelisuflebas sxva

gza ar rCeba, garda erTisa _ da-

uyovnebliv aRZras sisxlis samar-

Tlis saqme saxelmwifo SeTqmule-

bis organizatoris ivaniSvilis da

SeTqmulebis sxva monawileebis

winaaRmdeg da amiT qveyana omsa da

ubedurebas gadaarCinos.

Tu vinmes daujereblad eCvene-

ba movlenebis amgvari ganviTareba,

gaixsenos uamravi epizodi axlo

warsulidan _ gaixsenos, rogor

`ipoves~ igor giorgaZis momxree-

bisTvis gankuTvnili iaraRi, ro-

gor ipoves iaraRi irakli oqru-

aSvilis `nacnob-megobrebis~ baRCa-

Si, gaixsenos, rogor `daiWires~

faqtze malxaz gvelukaSvili da

misi megobari, romlebic samxedro

gadatrialebis mosawyobad iaraRs

`iZendnen~, gaixsenos muxrovanis

`amboxebis~ `iniciatorTa~ `TaTbi-

ris~ videoCanaweri, sadac TiTqmis

mTeli opoziciuri speqtri jaSu-

Sur-agenturul saqmianobaSi iqna

braldebuli, gaixsenos 26 maisis

wina dReebis video da audio Cana-

werebi, gaixsenos monasterSi da-

patimrebuli 25 adamiani, romle-

bic TiTqosda SeiaraRebuli ga-

mosvlebisTvis emzadebodnen, gaix-

senos kidev uamravi msgavsi faqti

da darwmundebiT, rom advili Se-

saZlebelia biZina ivaniSvilis wi-

naaRmdeg absoluturad igive sce-

nariT imoqmedon.

rogorc vTqviT, xelisufleba

Tavs ar iwuxebs axali siuJetebis

gamogonebiT, is moqmedebs erTxel

SerCeuli sqemiT da, faqtobrivad,

erTi da igive Sinaarsis sisxlis

samarTlis saqmeebSi mxolod gvar-

saxelebs cvlis.

daviT gamyreliZismier `gaSifruli~ da xe-lisuflebisTvis miwo-debuli `operatiuli~informacia, Tu rogoremzadeba biZina ivaniSvi-li revoluciisTvis, sx-va araferia, Tu ara ama-ve xelisuflebis mierwlebis winaT Sedgenilida mere mravaljer gamo-yenebuli trafaretisasli.

gapolitikosebul eqimsa da me-

warmes, rogorc Cans, axali, ori-

ginaluri sqemebis SesaTxzvelad

fantazia ar hyofnis, ise, rogorc

ar hyofnis sindisi, saqarTvelos-

Tvis uamravi keTili saqmis gamke-

Tebel adamians cili ar daswamos

da sacixod ar gaimetos.

* * *

arsebobs varaudi, rom biZina

ivaniSvilze sisxlis samarTlis

saqmis aRZvris sababiT xelisufle-

ba amuSavebs kidev erT samarqafo

variants, riTac Seecdeba teroris-

tisa da kriminalis iarliyi miake-

ros `qarTuli ocnebis~ liders.

saubaria teraqtze,romelsac viTom ivaniS-vili da misi gundi geg-mavs mixeil saakaSviliswinaaRmdeg.

ra Tqma unda, mTavari persona-

Ji aqac ruseTi unda iyos, rome-

lic am `teroristuli aqtis~ su-

lisCamdgmelad da SemkveTad da-

saxldeba, riTac kidev ufro gaiz-

rdeba saakaSvilis, rogorc boro-

tebis imperiasTan mebrZoli gmi-

ris, wona da avtoriteti.

cxadia, saakaSvilzeTavdasxmas da mis likvi-dacias aravin apirebs,Tumca es sulac ar SeuS-lis xels am xelisufle-bas dabejiTebiT amtki-cos, rom teraqti namd-vilad mzaddeboda darom ara samarTlebrivistruqturebis saocradgamWriaxi muSaoba, vinicis, ra ubedurebas ga-daveyrebodiT.

bunebaSi ararsebuli teraqtis

scenaric iqve daiwreba, sadac

sxva, msgavsi tipis scenarebi iwe-

reboda. mere es scenari `warmoe-

baSi CaeSveba~, `msaxiobebs~ role-

bi gaunawildebaT, filmi gadaiRe-

ba, teqsti daedeba, gaxmovandeba

da saerTaSoriso mniSvnelobis

skandaluri istoriac mzad aris _

rogor upirebda afeTqebas demok-

ratiis Suquras _ saakaSvils ru-

seTis kaci ivaniSvili.

eh, Tqve marTla dedaafeTqebu-

lebo, riT ver daiRaleT, riT ver

daSoSmindiT, riT ver dacxriT?

saqarTvelo didi xania did ki-

nopavilionad iqca, gadasaReb moe-

danze yoveldRe iReben axal-axal

filmebs arnaxuli ekonomikuri

miRwevebis Sesaxeb, arnaxulad ke-

TilSobili da keTili xelisuf-

lebis Sesaxeb, arnaxuli demokra-

tiis Sesaxeb da kidev Spionebis,

agentebis, xalxis mtrebis, rezi-

dentebis, teroristebis, mavneble-

bis Sesaxeb, romlebic cdiloben

Ziri gamouTxaron arnaxulad ayva-

vebul, arnaxulad demokratiul,

arnaxulad humanur qarTul sa-

xelmwifos da mis xelisuflebas.

saqarTvelo realo-baSi ar cxovrobs, saqar-Tvelo cxovrobs saSine-lebaTa filmSi, romlisreJisoric, scenaris-tic da mTavari rolisSemsrulebelic erTi daigive kaci _ mixeil saa-kaSvilia,

romelic TavgamodebiT cdi-

lobs moatyuos ara marto saqar-

Tvelo, aramed mTeli msoflio,

Tavisi saerTaSoriso demokratiu-

li TanamegobrobiT, Tavisi demok-

ratiuli institutebiT da sxva

aTasi jandabiT da dozaniT.

cdilobs da axerxebs kidevac...

aferum, mis moxerxebas da ki-

dev im demokratiul Tanamegobro-

bas, romelic cxra welia am mra-

valserian saSinelebaTa films

mSvidad da aumRvrevlad uyurebs.

Tfu...

* * *

daimaxsovreT, 2012 wlis ag-

visto yvelaze sabediswero agvis-

to iqneba bolo oci wlis agvis-

toebidan.

darwmunebuli var,

xelisufleba male ga-

morekavs agvistos cxe-

li Rameebidan jaSuSo-

basa da teroristoba-

Si eWvmitanil koWoi-

ebs, erT xelSi ce-

lofnis Sav parkebs

daaWerinebs, romelSic

iqneba trotili an

sxva feTqebadi nivTie-

reba, meore xelSi xe-

lisuflebis mierve da-

weril teqstebs SeaCe-

Cebs, sadac laparaki

iqneba imaze Tu rogor

apirebdnen koWoiebi

sxvadasxva diversiul-

teroristuli aqtebis

ganxorcielebas, koWo-

ebi daasaxeleben organizaciis

xelmZRvanelebs, Tanamzraxvelebs

da daiwyeba nadiroba kudianebze.

37-iani wlebi dabrunda saqar-

TveloSi, Tumca raRa dabrunda,

roca is arsad wasula...

Cven vcxovrobT ukana ricxviT,

vcxovrobT axal neobolSevikur

qveyanaSi, romelsac msoflios

Tvalis asaxvevad demokratiuli

saqarTvelo hqvia.

P.S. 2 agvistos `edp~-ss li-

derma baCuki qardavam preskonfe-

rencia gamarTa, sadac lamis sity-

va-ssityviT, igive gaimeora, rac da-

viT gamyreliZem `praim-ttaimSi~ ga-

nacxada.

qardavas mtkicebiT,`qarTuli ocneba~ arCev-nebis Semdeg xmebis ga-yalbebis gaproteste-bis sababiT, areulobis

provocirebas apirebs,ris Semdegac situaciisdaregulirebis mizniTsaqarTveloSi ruseTisjarebi SemoiWrebian da`qarTul ocnebas~ dau-Weren mxars.

_ amis Sesaxeb amomrCevlebTan

Sexvedrisas `qarTuli ocnebis~

koordinatorebi Riad saubroben

da arc malaven, rom maT ruseTis

imedi aqvT, _ brZanebs pativcemu-

li qardava.

misi azriT, rusuli jaris

mravalricxovani kontingentis

koncentrireba saqarTvelos sazR-

vrebTan, agreTve rusuli samxed-

ro katarRebis mobilizeba Savi

zRvis akvatoriaSi, farTomasSta-

biani samxedro wvrTnebi Crdilo-

eT kavkasiaSi, yvelaferi es pirda-

pir kavSirSia Turme saqarTvelo-

Si oqtombris saparlamento arCev-

nebTan da uSualod `qarTuli oc-

nebis~ miznebTan da amocanebTan.

unda vivaraudoT, rom qardava

xelisuflebis im scenaris ideo-

logiurad gamyarebas cdilobs,

romlis Sesaxebac am werilSi

vrclad visaubreT.

daviT gamyreliZe, baCuki qar-

dava da sxvebi am TavianTi absur-

duli braldebebiT da ciliswame-

bebiT xels uwyoben xelisufle-

bas, Sekeros sisxlis samarTlis

saqme `qarTuli ocnebis~ winaaRm-

deg, romelic, Turme, danaSauleb-

riv farul garigebaSia ruseTTan

da sababs umzadebs mas saqarTve-

loSi SemosaWrelad da mis da-

sapyrobad.

es umZimesi bralde-baa, es saxelmwifos Ra-latSi dadanaSaulebaada, vfiqrob, `qarTuliocnebis~ mesveurebmadroulad unda mimar-Ton sasamarTlos amusafuZvlo braldebe-bis gasaqarwyleblad.

dabolos, ar SeiZleba gverdi

avuaroT erT garemoebas, kerZod,

im sakiTxs, rom baCuki qardava

wlebis ganmavlobaSi TviTon muSa-

obda ruseTis samarTaldamcav

struqturebSi, ekava sakmaod maRa-

li postebi, rac safuZvlian eWvs

badebs, rom qardava swored ruse-

Tis garkveuli wreebis dakveTas

axmovanebs, romelTa mizania, ra-

dac ar unda daujdeT, daexmaron

saakaSvils Zalauflebis SenarCu-

nebaSi.

arCevnebi 1 oqtom-bers, anu im dros, rocaruseTi saqarTvelos me-zoblad farTomasSta-bian samxedro wvrTnebsatarebs, ivaniSvils ardauniSnavs, is daniSnamixeil saakaSvilma.

aqedan gamomdinare,Tu raime garigeba arse-bobs, is SeiZleba arse-bobdes ruseTsa da mixe-il saakaSvils Soris daaraviTar SemTxvevaSiruseTsa da biZina iva-niSvils Soris.

giorgigamezardaSvili

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16 saerTo gazeTi #34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.

gvesaubreba `Tavisufali

saqarTvelos~ Tavmjdomare

kaxa kukava:

_ kaxa, bolo dros `Tavisu-

fal saqarTveloSi~ aqtiviste-

bis da maJoritarebis sxva par-

tiebidan gadmodineba SeiniSneba.

_ partia `Tavisufal saqar-

TveloSi~ sxvadasxva partiebi-

dan mxardamWerebis mateba namd-

vilad SeiniSneba. es exeba, ro-

gorc aqtivistebs, ise axalgaz-

rdul organizaciebs, aseve ma-

Joritar kandidatebs. imereTSi

Cveni maJoritari kandidatebis

prezentacia gvqonda, uaxloes

dReebSi kidev ramdenime region-

Si Catardeba analogiuri. aras-

dros miTqvams vin, romeli par-

tiidan SemouerTda `Tavisufa-

li saqarTvelos~ rigebs. Tumca,

politikaSi Caxeduli sazoga-

doebisTvis es saidumlos ar

warmoadgens. maT Soris, imereT-

Si prezentirebul kandidatebs

Sorisac iyvnen iseTebi, romle-

bic `qarTul ocnebaSi~ ganixi-

lebodnen. es Cveulebrivi momen-

tia. `qarTul ocnebas~ mTavar

konkurentad ar miviCnevT da ar

vTvliT, rom masTan mtruli da-

mokidebuleba unda gvqondes.

_ kaxa, riT axsni sxvadasx-

va partiebis rigebidan Tqvens

rigebSi xalxis gawevrianebis

survils?

_ es miswrafeba gamowveulia

Semdegi viTarebiT _ sanam eifo-

ria iyo, yvela mxolod `qar-

Tul ocnebas~ amCnevda. rac uf-

ro axlovdeba arCevnebi da Suq-

deba politikuri sakiTxebi,

xalxi gansxvavebas amCnevs. yve-

la vinc gansxvavebas amCnevs _

eleqtorati Tu aqtivistebi,

`Tavisufali saqarTvelos~ upi-

ratesoba eWvqveS ar dgas. imi-

tom, rom igive sagareo, saSinao

politikasTan mimarTebaSi Cveni

upiratesoba Zalian didi da

sagrZnobia.

_ kaxa, rogor fiqrob, ra-

tom gierTdebian Tqven _ imi-

tom, rom gulwrfelad saub-

robT im realobaze, razec sxve-

bi mxolod `gulSi mRerian~,

Tu sxva ganmapirobebeli mizeze-

bic arsebobs?

_ ramdenime dRis win xara-

gaulis raionSi Sexvedra gvqon-

da, sadac adamiani, romelic

Cven dagvyveboda, ambobda _ ar

mgonia ivaniSvili amerikelebis

kaci iyoso. es Zalian saintere-

so, simptomaturi frazaa. adami-

anebs sxva molodini aqvT _ isi-

ni ramdenjerme rom moismenen

ivaniSvilis an misi garemocvis

saubars sxvadasxva politikur

sakiTxebze, ra Tqma unda saku-

Tar pozicias Seicvlian. damo-

kidebuleba ivaniSvilis mimarT,

rogorc mecenatis, pirovnebis,

metwilad pozitiuria, magram

misi politikuri prioritete-

bis, garemocvis mimarT damoki-

debuleba, ufro metad negatiu-

ria.

_ ivaniSvilis gundma imis

apelirebiT, rom pro-aameriku-

lebi arian, garkveulwilad xom

ar gamogiTavisufla is niSa,

romelic axla gikavia?

_ Cven gvaqvs grZelvadiani

prioriteti, `Tavisufali sa-

qarTvelo~ aris erTaderTi po-

litikuri partia, am sityvis

namdvili gagebiT, rogoric ar-

sebobs evropaSi. Cven dRemde is

pozicia gvaqvs, rac SarSan,

SarSanwin da imis win gvqonda

ar gviTqvams rom SarSan nato-

Si integracias vuWerdiT mxars

da wels aRar. bevri politiku-

ri lideri amas akeTebs da es

Zalian sasaciloa. ra Tqma unda,

politika lavirebis xelovnebaa

da aq SesaZlebelia aqcenti xan

erT rameze gaakeTo, xan meore-

ze, magram is, rom erTi da ima-

ve sakiTxze diametralurad sa-

winaaRmdego poziciebi daikavo,

es grZelvadian perspeqtivaSi

wamgebiania. Cveni partia Sedare-

biT axalia, cota ufro adre

roa dagvewyo saqmianoba, darw-

munebuli var Cveni eleqtorati

ufro farTo iqneboda imitom,

rom realurad, dRes mosaxleo-

bis 70-80 procenti, albaT, im

faseulobebs iziarebs, romelic

eqskluziurad mxolod da mxo-

lod Cveni partiis programaSia

warmodgenili. ubralod, amis

adamianebamde mitanas didi dro

da resursi sWirdeba.

_ kaxa, ra Sehmata Tqvens

reitings mxardamWerebis Sema-

tebam da ra Sedegi gamoiRo

NDI-ss kvlevebze Tqvenma pro-

testma?

_ Cveni protestis Semdgom

NDI-m Zalian saintereso rei-

tingi gamoaqveyna _ `naciona-

lebs~ `qarTul ocnebas~ da

`qristian-demokratebs~ gan-

sazRvruli procenti miakuTvna

da Tqva, rom danarCeni partie-

bis procenti jamSi 10-is to-

lia. msoflioSi aseTi ram ar

arsebobs, NDI-s da `ai-rais~

gamokiTxvebi ukuRma tardeba. aq

jer iwereba jami da Semdgom

formalurad gamokiTxva tarde-

ba. NDI-m dawera, rom jamSi

`Tavisufali saqarTvelos~ da

`erovnul-demokratiuli parti-

is~ procenti 10-ia. iqneb gviTx-

ran _ 5,5 procenti gvaqvs ori-

ves Tu Cven gvaqvs _ 9,9 pro-

centi da maT 0,1. momaval kvi-

ras vapirebT erT-erT kerZo

kompanias davukveToT gamokvle-

va, Tumca CvenTvis cnobilia,

rom pirveli da meore arCevanis

jamuri raodenoba 14 procen-

tia.

_ kaxa, Tumca Tqven araer-

Txel aRgiRniSnavT, rom am pi-

robebSi arCevnebs azri ar aqvs,

rom jer aSS-ss kolonizatoro-

bidan unda gavTavisufldeT da

es Zlieri mokavSiris

gareSe SeuZlebelia. es

Zlieri mokavSire ki

ruseTia, romelsac mx-

olod afxazeTi da

oseTi ki ara, aramed

saqarTvelo sWirdeba,

rogorc mis mimarT ke-

Tilganwyobili qveyana.

_ mosaxleobis 95

procenti Tvlis, rom

saqarTvelos mTavari

strategiuli partnio-

ri ruseTi da aSS unda

iyos. amavdroulad, Cve-

ni politikuri speqt-

ris 95 procenti Tv-

lis, rom mTavari part-

niori aSS da ara ruse-

Ti unda iyos. anu Zali-

an didi, kardinaluri

winaaRmdegobaa polit.

elitasa da eleqtora-

tis ganwyobebs Soris. bunebri-

via, aqedan gamomdinare, Cveni

partiisTvis es Zalian didi ni-

Saa. ubralod, ivaniSvilis pi-

radi reitingi imdenad maRalia,

rom xSirad es adamianebisTvis

erTgvari barieria, raTa poli-

tikur sakiTxebs Sexedon. adami-

anebma rom icodnen, maTTvis say-

vareli liderebi arian is po-

litikuri partiebi, romlebic

mxars uWeren avRaneTSi Cveni

biWebis xocva-Jletas, Cineleb-

ze tyeebis gadacemas, baTumSi

meCeTis mSeneblobas, rusTave-

lis gamzirze gei-aRlumebis Ca-

tarebas, ieRovelebis propagan-

das, ra Tqma unda am SemTxveva-

Si xalxi am politikur Zalas

mxars ar dauWers, magram samwu-

xarod, es Tematika debatebis

sivrceSi warmodgenili ar aris.

_ bevri moqalaqe ruseTSia

lukma-ppuris saSovarze gasuli.

ruseTTan dapirispirebiT Cven

xom am qarTvelebze vambobT ua-

rs?

_ ra Tqma unda. es partiebi

yvela antierovnulebi arian imi-

tom, rom isini xelisuflebaSi

mosvlas aSS-s mxardaWeriT geg-

maven da ara qarTveli eris

mxardaWeriT, angariSvaldebu-

lebas vaSingtonis winaSe grZno-

ben da amas arc malaven. yvelas

gvaxsovs erTi politikosis gan-

cxadeba, rom ar SeiZleba meCe-

Tis mSeneblobis gaprotesteba,

radgan es Turme aSS-s saelCos

ar moewoneba. amas pirdapir gav-

lenis agenti ewodeba. ruseTSi

myofi qarTveli moqalaqeebi

erT-erTi mTavari Temaa. xalxi

maT fexebze hkidiaT. maTTvis

bevrad ufro mniSvnelovania

aSS-s saelCos meore mdivnis Ri-

mili daimsaxuron, vidre ruseT-

Si mcxovrebi 1 milioni qarTve-

lis mxardaWera.

_ magram xelisuflebam we-

sad daamkvidra, rom visac oku-

pant qveyanasTan urTierTobis

mogvareba surs, igi qveynis

mtris iarliys ikravs.

_ am frontze Cvenma parti-

am ukve gaimarjva. roca Tbilis-

Si ar viyavi irakli alasanias

uTqvams, rom moldaveTis Tema

saqarTvelosTvis unda iqnes ga-

moyenebuli. rogorc ruseTis

bazris winaaRmdegni iyvnen da

bolos yvela partia vaiZuleT

eRiarebinaT, rom es erTaderTi

gamosavalia, aseve, roca aSS-s

mTavari mokavSire alasania

iTxovs moldaveTis precendent-

ze saubars, yvelas vaiZulebT

da CavatarebT plebisits saqar-

TveloSi, sadac 99 procenti

natos winaaRmdeg miscems xmas.

imitom, rom es momavlis erTa-

derTi Temaa. yvela vinc dRes

saqarTvelos natoSi integraci-

aze saubrobs, ar minda uxeSad

gamomivides, magram am adamianebs

sakuTari maJoritarobis manda-

ti ufro anaRvlebT, vidre

afxazeTis dakarguli terito-

ria.

_ am fonze, ramdenad sworia

xalxis aqtivobis SeCereba, maTi

procesebSi CarTvis ignorireba?

_ `qarTuli ocneba~ ibrZvis

meore adgilisTvis da ara xe-

lisuflebis SecvlisaTvis. Cven

maT vTavazobT erTian maJori-

tar kandidatebze SeTanxmeba

Sedges, isini amaze uars ambo-

ben, aq sxva logikuri pasuxi

gamoricxulia. garda amisa, iva-

niSvili arCevnebSi ar monawi-

leobs, rac niSnavs, rom `qar-

Tuli ocnebis~ fiqsirebuli

xmebis mTavari Sedegi alasanias

da `respublikelebis~ fraqcie-

bi iqneba saqarTvelos parlamen-

tSi. amiT damTavrdeba mTeli es

kampania. dRes es fraza viRacas

yurs moWris, magram Cven gvax-

sovs rogori didi ndobiT sar-

geblobda alasania da swored

asec damTavrda _ vice-spikeris

posti iyo mTavari miRweva Tbi-

lisis sakrebuloSi. es imedgac-

rueba qarTvel sazogadoebas

win elodeba, magram Cvenma sazo-

gadoebam nel-nela unda iswav-

los, rom wyalwaRebuli xavs

eWidebodao _ ase Sedegs ver

miviRebT. ar SeiZleba raRac-ra-

Racebis daviwyeba. roca amboben,

TiTqos fsevdoopoziciaa is, vi-

sac 26 maiss Tavebi gauxeTqes,

xolo realuri opozicia ala-

sania da `respublikelebi~, vinc

am yvelafers fanjridan uyura,

es ukve tyuilia. tyuilze da-

fuZnebuli politikuri stra-

tegia Sedegs ver miitans.

Tamar SveliZe

zogierTisTvis ufro mniSvnelovaniaaSS-s saelCos meore mdivnis Rimilisdamsaxureba, vidre ruseTSi mcxovrebi

erTi milioni qarTvelis bedi

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

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qalis bedi iseTivea, rogo-

ricaa qveynis bedi; ar SeiZleba,

isini erTmaneTisagan gansxvavde-

bodnen. bednieri qalebis arse-

boba qveynis bednierebis sawin-

daria da piriqiT.

... lado asaTianis striqone-

bi gamaxsenda: `sxva rom ar

iyos, Cven am lamazi qalebis

Suqi dagvifaravda, Torem mters

isic ki SeaSinebs, erTxel xma-

maRla rom vTqvaT `marabda~.

albaT, an Cven SevicvaleT, an _

mteri. an Cven aRar Segvwevs Za-

la, rom erTxmad SevZaxoT, an

mterma gaimagra guli da `marab-

dis~ gagoneba sasacilodac ki

ar hyofnis. Tanac, meTodebi

daxvewa, brZolis forma Secva-

la. iqneb, orive erTadaa? rac

Seexeba lamaz qalebs, maTi Su-

qis imedad yofna, cota ar iyos,

saxifaTo saqmea: dgeba momenti,

roca isini, didi survilis mi-

uxedavad, veRar aSuqeben da ve-

Rarc gifaraven _ piriqiT, axla

iqiT sWirdebaT gafrTxileba da

mzrunveloba. es _ naxevrad

xumrobiT, Tumca saxumarod nam-

dvilad ara gvaqvs saqme, radgan

saqarTvelo lamis qalebisagan

daicalos. es gansakuTrebiT ig-

rZnoba regionebSi, sadac TiTq-

mis yoveli meoTxe-mexuTe oja-

xi diasaxlisis gareSea darCeni-

li _ midian, miemgzavrebian,

garbian Cveni dedebi, debi Tu

bebiebi; RvTis wyalobad Tvlian,

Tu aqedan gaRweva moaxerxes, mi-

dian legalurad Tu aralega-

lurad, midian Cvengan... Cvens ga-

dasarCenad, dasapureblad, Sesa-

mosavad... es maTi surviliT

xdeba? mTeli cxovreba amaze

ocnebobdnen? uxariaT? ara, ra

Tqma unda, ara! esaa ojaxis ga-

dasarCenad gaRebuli msxverpli,

TviTSewirva, uzarmazari riski,

radgan veravin iZleva asprocen-

tian garantias, rom ucxo qveya-

naSi yvelaferi kargad aewyoba.

Zalian didia imis albaToba,

rom Seilaxos maTi uflebebi,

Rirseba, safrTxe Seeqmnas fizi-

kur arsebobasac ki...

am werilSi ar vsaubrob im

qarTvel gogonebze, romlebic

saswavleblad Tu samuSaod mi-

emgzavrebian sazRvargareT. zo-

gierT maTgans umarTlebs, zogi-

erTs _ ara, zogierTi trefi-

kingis msxverplic ki xdeba _ es

calke saubris Temaa. amjerad im

qarTvel qalbatonebze mogaxse-

nebT, romlebic qmar-Svils to-

veben (cxadia, urTierTSeTanxme-

bis safuZvelze) da, RmerTma

uwyis, ramdeni xniT swydebian

mSobliur garemos. albaT, dame-

TanxmebiT, gamoricxulia, rom

maT bednierad igrZnon Tavi; ga-

moricxulia im SemTxvevaSic ki,

Tu, RvTis nebiT, gaumarTlebT

da keTilSobil adamianebTan da-

saqmdebian, romelTaTvisac ucxo

ar iqneba qristianobis umTavre-

si mcneba: `giyvardes moyvasi Se-

ni~ _ avi da kargi yvelganaa,

RmerTma amravlos da dalocos

aseTi ucxoelebi!

dasawyisSi aRvniSne, rom

araerTgvarovania qarTveli qa-

lebis damokidebuleba ojaxis

institutTan mimarTebiT, magram,

samagierod, erTgvarovania maTi

sulieri mdgomareoba, roca

fesvebs iZulebiT mowyvetilni

gadamTielis samsaxurSi dgebian

_ am mdgomareobas nostalgia,

ganuwyveteli dardi, samSoblo-

sa da ojaxis tkivilamde gam-

Zafrebuli monatreba hqvia da

saerTo araferi aqvs bedniere-

basTan. am mxriv tyupiscaliviT

hgvanan erTmaneTs ojaxSi mamaka-

cis erTpirovnuli liderobis

momxre da mowinaaRmdege qalba-

tonebi _ isini bevrni arian, Za-

lian bevri da, samwuxarod, ax-

la maT yofili colebi, yofili

dedebi da bebiebi (iqneb, yofili

qalebic?) hqviaT; mware realo-

baa, magram asea. roca qali

wlobiT tovebs ojaxs, oficia-

lurad Tu ara, araoficialu-

rad mainc xdeba `yofili~. axla

maT erTaderTi funqcia gaaCniaT

_ saqarTveloSi darCenili

ojaxis wevrebis rCena da isinic

uZleben, welebze fexs idgamen,

aTasgvari gaWirvebisa Tu damci-

rebis atanis fasad, ase Tu ise,

uzrunvelyofen sayvarel adami-

anebs _ cxadia, fortuna Zali-

an Wirveuli vinmea da yvelas ar

uRimis. es ician, magram mainc

midian soflelebi Tu qalaqe-

lebi, diasaxlisebi Tu mecnie-

rebi, xelovanebi Tu teqnokra-

tebi, gaunaTleblebi Tu inte-

leqtualebi... yvela erT qvabSi

ixarSeba _ maTi socialuri

statusi da cenzi warsulSi

darCa, awmyoSi ki vxedavT davr-

domili moxucebis momvlelebi-

sa da e.w. `beibisiTerebis~ armi-

as, romelic xan invalidis

etls daaqrolebs aRma-daRma da

xan aWyivlebul patara evro-

pels an amerikels ucvlis pam-

perss...

Cemo kargo qveyanav, razed

mogiwyeniao, _ ara? rogor ar

moiwyens, roca amdeni qarTveli

qalia mowyenili, gatanjuli,

samSoblodan emigrirebuli da

ukeTesi momavlis momlodine. es

ukeTesi momavali ki mova? isev

ilia: `ra giTxraT, riT gagaxa-

roT...~ dro yovelTvis iseTia,

rogoric Cven varT. maSasadame,

sanam Tavad ar gavxdebiT uke-

Tesni, arc ukeTesi momavlis

imedad yofna gvmarTebs.

ki, magram sad arian qarTve-

li mamakacebi? _ ismis ritori-

kuli SekiTxva. _ ram gadaagva-

ra da gadaajiSa isini? ratom

gaimetes aseTi satanjvelisaT-

vis TavianTi dedebi, debi, meuR-

leebi? ratom ahkides esoden

mZime tvirTi sust mxrebze? sad

dakarges saukuneTa manZilze ga-

momuSavebuli da Sesisxlxor-

cebuli sanaqebo unari qalis

dacvisa da gafrTxilebisa?

diaxac, gadagvardnen da da-

beCavdnen. cxadia, beCavia is ka-

ci, romelsac uRlidan Tavi da-

uxsnia, sakuTar ufunqciobasa

da ususurobas Seguebia da co-

lis gamogzavnil fuls elode-

ba Tvidan Tvemde. RmerTma dag-

vifaros, rom es yvelas exebo-

des, magram bolo wlebSi aSka-

rad TvalSisacemia aseTi ten-

dencia _ aRarc ki gvikvirs

taxtze wamokotrialebuli qmr-

ebisa da `saSovarze~ gadagebu-

li colebis arseboba. _ gana

Cven ki mogvwons aseTi cxovre-

ba, magram ra vqnaT, diplomi

saxlSi gviobdeba, samsaxuri

versad gviSovniao, _ amiT imar-

Tleben Tavs es ukacuri kacebi

da bolos daayoleben xolme, _

aba, yvelafers xom ver vikad-

rebTo. SeiZleba, vinmes zedme-

tad mkacrad moeCvenos Cemi Se-

faseba, magram mimaCnia, rom maT

aranairi gamarTleba ara aqvT da

arc SeiZleba hqondeT, radgan

amas mxolod Rirsebadakarguli

adamiani ityvis _ gamodis, rom

maT ukve ikadres yvelaze ukad-

rebeli ram, dakarges Rirseba.

gamodis, rom es axali drois

`Semodgomis aznaurebi~ Taki-

loben fizikur Sromas da raxan

kabinetebSi ver gamoiWimnen, yve-

laferze xeli aiRes. ai, qalma

ki ojaxis gadasarCenad `ikadra~

da daxlTan dadga, quCaSi daga-

va, sxvis moxucebuls mouara,

sxvisi bavSvi gaaseirna da daa-

Zina... qalisaTvis ufro Zvirfa-

si aRmoCnda ojaxis wevrebis ke-

TildReoba da sakuTar intere-

sebze, sakuTar Tavmoyvareobaze

maRla daayena qmari, Svili,

mSoblebi...

albaT, dameTanxmebiT, rom am

situaciaSi yvelaze damcirebu-

li da amazrzeni swored mamaka-

cia, e.w. Zlieri sqesis warmo-

madgeneli, romelsac an ver ga-

ucnobierebia Tavisi damamcire-

beli mdgomareoba, an, ubralod,

egueba mas. egueba da qreba, nav-

ldeba, iferfleba grZnoba, ro-

melic ojaxis Seqmnis safuZve-

li gaxda. gasakviria? vai, rom

aRar. ojaxebi an ingreva, an

fsevdo ojaxebiT icvleba.

... mavanis colma veRar gauZ-

lo TurqeTSi mZime CanTebis

Trevas da maRaziis mepatronis

`xanumoba~ arCia. Tavidan, cota-

ar iyos, eCoTireboda, magram me-

re Seifera da gautkba uzrun-

veli cxovreba. sofelSi xma ga-

varda da `keTilismsurvelebma~

qmarsac CaawveTes, Seni Tamro

is Tamro aRar ariso. qmarma er-

Ti kvira `kacurad~ iloTa, me-

re ki yurebi daixSo da Tvale-

bi daibrmava. rac mTavaria, mo-

Ralate coli regularulad

ugzavnida sakmaod solidur

Tanxas da kaci isev netarebiT

abolebda aCemebul `parla-

ments~, CacmiTac ise ecva, rom

Tanasoflelebs Suris rwyilebi

kbendaT...

... rZal-muli erTad gaemg-

zavra germaniaSi. erTad dasaqm-

dnen, binac erTad daiqiraves. ma-

le rZalma mepatronis simpaTia

daimsaxura, simpaTia ormxrivi

aRmoCnda da, bevri rom ar ga-

vagrZelo, qalma germaniaSi dar-

Cena da germanel `romeoze~

gaTxoveba gadawyvita; ganaTxo-

vari muli iman ki ar aRaSfoTa,

rom mis erTaderT Zmas ubodi-

Sod tovebdnen, aramed iman, rom

rZalma daaswro sakmaod mdida-

ri kacis gulis monadireba. Su-

riT gaxelebulma qalma Tbilis-

Si dareka da Zmas yvelaferi mo-

axsena. qmari, upirveles yovli-

sa, imiT dainteresda, ramdenad

sqeli jibis patroni iyo misi

Zvirfasi meore naxevris axali

meore naxevari, roca Tanxis ra-

odenoba daazusta, mzrunvel

daikos xalisiT gadmoulaga

colis intimuri saidumloebebi,

romelTa winaswar codna namd-

vilad ar awyenda ucxoel sasi-

Zos. amas, cxadia, is mohyva, rac

unda mohyoloda _ mulma yo-

velgvari sindisis qenjnis gare-

Se daaSantaJa rZali da soli-

duri Tanxac miiRo dumilis sa-

fasurad _ Zma, ra Tqma unda,

wilSi gaiyvana...

mgoni, gagrZeleba aRar

Rirs, ara?

axla isic vTqvaT, rom ukve

mTeli Taoba gaizarda udedod.

internatis bavSvebze ar mogax-

senebT, _ imaT vgulisxmob, vi-

sac wlebis ganmavlobaSi hyavda

`deda telefoniT~ da `deda

skaipiT~, vinc moklebuli iyo

dedis siTbos, mzrunvelobas,

kontrols, Zilis win moyolil

zRapars da `iavnanas~. gaizard-

nen, magram aRizardnen ki? dedis

wyalobiT xorcieli sazrdo ar

moklebiaT, magram sulieri? ra

garemoSi Camoyalibdnen? gada-

urCnen Tu ara moZalebul mas-

kulturas, WeSmariti faseulo-

bebis yalbi faseulobebiT Ca-

nacvlebis process? ai, es aris

sakiTxavi. samwuxaro da TavSi-

sacemi ki is gaxlavT, rom Tana-

medrove e.w. Tineijerebis (sity-

va `mozardi~ xom warsulis

gadmonaSTad iTvleba) garkveu-

li nawili Zalian kmayofilia

amgvari xvedriT _ maT sruliad

gauqraT dedis moferebis, mas-

Tan sulieri siaxlovis survi-

li, arc Zilispiruli da zRap-

rebi sWirdebaT, mTavaria, mSo-

belma materialurad uzrunvel-

hyos (Tundac cxra mTas iqidan),

mTavaria, ise ecvaT, iseTi mobi-

luri telefoni hqondeT, iseT

Ramis klubSi erTobodnen, rom

TavianT Tanatolebs araferSi

CamorCnen. cxadia, es yvelas ar

exeba, magram aseTi, mxolod ma-

terialur Rirebulebebze ori-

entirebuli axalgazrdebis ar-

seboba, mgoni, seriozuli gans-

jis sagania.

mgoni, isic sagangaSo faq-

tia, roca xelmokle ojaxSi

umamod gazrdili 18 wlis ymaw-

vili internetis meSveobiT Ta-

vad arCevs ucxoel saqmroebs

dedisaTvis _ raki `ar gaumarT-

la~ da deda sazRvargareT ver

dasaqmda, iqneb mdidar maminac-

vals mainc gamohkras xeli.

aristo qvaSavaZe maxsendeba, da-

uviwyari personaJi `samaniSvi-

lis dedinacvlidan~ (is mamidas

mainc aTxovebda)...

ra hqvia amas? saidan amdeni

uzneoba? iqneb davijeroT, rom

mizani marTlac amarTlebs sa-

Sualebas? rom yofiereba marT-

lac ganapirobebs cnobierebas?

visac dajereba ar gvsurs, yi-

JiniT gvawvebian, _ visac gvje-

ra, gagvatareTo. ra vqnaT, ga-

vataroT? pasuxi Senzea, mkiTx-

velo. pasuxi Senzea, radgan Za-

lian kargad mogexseneba, sai-

dan, vis mier da ra mizniT im-

Rvreva wyali. zeviT ukve aRv-

niSne, rom mterma meTodebi

Secvala, brZolis axali forma

gamoigona da radgan yvela

wmindanis saxis miReba SeuZlia,

garda RvTismSoblisa, swored

qals Seutia, swored misi

cduneba da damarcxeba gadawy-

vita_ Tu qalSi dedobrivi in-

stiqti Cakvdeba, Tu qali Tavad

moiWris RvTismSoblamde amaR-

lebis gzas, maSin mtersac gau-

ioldeba miznis miRweva. Sen

kargad ici, ra hqvia mters da

misi nebis aRmsruleblebs _

imaT, vinc gaafTrebiT ebrZvian

marTlmadideblur eklesias,

erovnul cnobierebas da, zoga-

dad, sulierebis yovelgvar ga-

movlinebas. rasakvirvelia, oj-

axis institutic maTi samiznea,

vinaidan ojaxis gareSe gazr-

dil adamians, xSir SemTxveva-

Si, ar gaaCnia mtkice zneobri-

vi sayrdeni da misiT manipuli-

reba sakmaod iolia.

es esmis yvelas, visac WeSma-

ritebis danaxva da gageba unda.

da radgan esmiT, isic Segnebuli

aqvT, rom swored qalia ojaxis

xerxemali, misi Semnaxveli da

gadamrCeni, magram qarTveli qa-

lebis did nawils dRes Tavad

sWirdeba Svela, Tanadgoma, auta-

neli tvirTisagan gaTavisufleba

(ukve iTqva, vis mxrebze unda ga-

danawildes es tvirTi). qarTve-

li qali unda daubrundes Tavis

ZiriTad arss, Tavis meobas. man

xelaxla unda gaacnobieros, rom

monad ar dabadebula da ufleba

aqvs, bednieri iyos Tavis samSob-

loSi, sayvareli adamianebis

gverdiT, xolo ucxoeTSi gamg-

zavrebas nebayoflobiTi xasiaTi

unda hqondes da ara_ iZulebiTi.

qarTvelma qalma Tavad unda ga-

dawyvitos, vis ekuTvnis: ufals,

samSoblos, ojaxs, sakuTar Tavs

Tu yvelafers erTad. aseTi Tavi-

sufali arCevanis SemTxvevaSi igi

gonivrul da Rirseul gadawyve-

tilebas miiRebs, magram manamde...

manamde yvela `adams~ didi mokr-

ZalebiT minda Sevaxseno (Tu ar

miwyenen), rom swored maT ekis-

rebaT pasuxismgebloba `evas~ si-

cocxleze, keTildReobasa da

jansaR fsiqikaze. `eva~ maTi nek-

nis nawilia da dRes es nekni gab-

zarulia.

ar gtkivaT, batonebo?!

nino sixaruliZe

gabzaruli nekni anu `visia, visia qali lamazi...~

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vesaubrebiT parlamentar

petre mamraZes

_ batono petre, Tqven bolo

gamosavlis dros ganacxadeT, rom

momaval saparlamento arCevnebSi

monawileobas aRar miiRebT da

moRvaweobas momavalSi ukve sxva

struqturaSi _arasamTavrobo or-

ganizaciaSi gaagrZelebT, ratom

miiReT es gadawyvetileba?

_ mTeli am wlebis ganmavlo-

baSi me damigrovda didi masala

Cemi muSaobisa da dakvirvebis Se-

degad, analitika, qveyanaSi arse-

buli riskebis Sefaseba, mogexsene-

baT, wignis avtoric var da dRes

vxedav, rom Cemi margi qmedebis

koeficienti am etapze, gacilebiT

maRali iqneba am seqtorSi. aqve

minda davZino, rom rodesac adami-

ani aris politikur partiaSi, yo-

velTvis SezRudulia. rasac fiq-

rob, imas, srulyofilad, yovelT-

vis ver ityvi. mTavrobaSi roca

muSaob maSinac igive xdeba, raRac

CarCoebSi xar moqceuli Segaxse-

nebT erT faqts, wlebis win, ger-

maniis iusticiis ministrma ga-

nacxada, rom berluskonis gamosv-

la musolinis maxsenebso. am sity-

vebisaTvis mas meore dRes mouwia

gadadgoma! imitom, rom germaniis

mTavrobas sulac ar surda ita-

liis mTavrobasTan urTierTobis

gafuWeba. am SemTxvevaSi, ministr-

ma kanoni daarRvia, mas unda eTq-

va ara is, rasac fiqrobda, aramed

is, rac oficialuri xelisufle-

bisTvis iyo misaRebi. amitom, mi-

maCnia, rom roca adamians surs

Tqvas is, rasac fiqrobs, jer un-

da gadadges da mere Tqvas.

_ Cans, rom Tqven Zalian bev-

ri saTqmeli dagigrovdaT iseTi,

rac jer ar giTqvamT?

_ saTqmeli marTlac rom da-

migrovda, amitom me Cems daniSnu-

lebas vxedav am etapze imaSi, rom

Cems xalxs vuTxra, rac SeiZleba

meti simarTle da Tanac iseTi,

romelic maT Zalian sWirdebaT.

mTeli am oci wlis ganmavlobaSi

bevri ubedureba datrialda

Cvens Tavze, iyo bevri Secdome-

bic, imitom, rom xalxi ar iyo

informirebuli. miTi, Wori Tu

SeTqmulebis Teoria batonobda

saR azrze, amitomac iyo mudam qa-

osi. dRes me es gza avirCie, si-

marTlis Tqmis gza.

_ Tqven didi daxmareba gauwi-

eT `mwvaneTa partias~ am arCevne-

bis win, rodesac misi wevroba

aRidgineT da mieciT maT saSuale-

ba, miiRon saparlamento arCevneb-

Si monawileoba. risi saSualebac

maT wlebis ganmavlobaSi ar misce-

miaT...

_ diax, 1992 wels me parla-

mentSi gia gaCeCilaZesTan erTad

amirCies swored am partiis siiT,

isic minda dasZino, rom am parti-

as aqvs miznad dasaxuli is, rom

daicvas Cveni qveynis buneba, eko-

logia da mas yovelTvis bevri

mxardamWeri hyavda Cvens qveyanaSi.

qarTveli kacisTvis, buneba da sam-

Soblos dacva xom upirvelesia.

dRes am kuTxiT me gamovyofdi

baton biZina ivaniSvils. arc erT

politikur liders ara aqvs ise

gaTavisebuli saqarTvelos buneba,

misi dacva da movla, rogorc am

pirovnebas. mas es gacnobierebuli

aqvs mrwamsis doneze. me mimaCnia,

rom adamiani bunebasTan harmonia-

Si unda iyos da ara misi ganadgu-

rebiT dakavebuli. ocdameerTe sa-

ukuneSi es erT-erTi mTavari sa-

kiTxia. amitom, vinaidan `mwvaneTa

partia~ arCevnebSi warmoadgens

`qarTuli ocnebis~ koaliciis

erT-erT saxes, me mxars vuWer

maT. amis gamo aRvadgine Cemi wev-

roba am partiaSi.

_ praqtikulad Tqven `mwvanee-

bi~ gadaarCineT...

_ vfiqrob, es asec unda yofi-

liyo, magram vimeoreb, aqeTken me

mibiZga iman, rom isini biZina iva-

niSvils uWeren mxars, sxva SemTx-

vevaSi, me am nabijs ar gadavdgam-

di.

_ oci welia politikaSi xa-

rT, rogor SeafasebdiT ganvlil

periods, romeli wlebi iyo ufro

Zneli, rogorc Cveni samSoblo-

saTvis, ise parlamentSi muSaobis

TvalsazrisiT?

_ ganvlil periods Tu Seva-

faseb SemiZlia vTqva, rom 1992-

1995 wlebi urTulesi iyo, Ria

terorizmi iyo, SegaxsenebT, me im

manqanaSi vijeqi, romelsac bombi

esroles da masSi SevardnaZe iyo.

am SemTxvevis gamo pirvelad me

davade xeli jaba ioselians, xa-

CiSvils, igor giorgaZes da sxv-

ebs.

_ daSavdiT am afeTqebis

dros?

_ sakmaod davSavdi, Tumca,

yvelaze metad daSavdnen rCeuliS-

vili da SevardnaZe, aseve mZRo-

lic. rCeuliSvili fanjarasTan

ijda, amitom ufro metad daSavda,

moxvda bombis namsxvrevebi da xe-

lic dauzianda. me sxeuli damese-

ra namsxvrevebiT da yu-

ris barabnebi gamiskda.

magram maSin ra ar iyo,

iciT? kako boboxiZe ma-

Sinac mTvrali modioda

parlamentSi da maSinac

dedas igineboda, magram

Zala ar hqonda! maSin

qveyanaSi avtoritaruli

reJimi ar iyo! aseve, re-

Jimis TavkacTan daaxlo-

ebuli pirebi ver akont-

rolebdnen parlaments!

`sqiniusma~ rom `saa-

kaSvilis `klounebis

Teatri~ uwoda, am

xalxs rom ufro meti

gavlena aqvs parlament-

ze, vidre parlamentis

Tavmjdomares baqraZes,

_ maSin ase ar iyo! dRes

baqraZe dekoraciaa mxolod!

dRes, vidre vano merabiSvili

premier-ministri gaxdeboda, yve-

lam icoda, rom baqraZis da gila-

uris gavlena bevrad naklebi iyo

qveyanaSi, vidre vano merabiSvilis

maSindeli romelime moadgilis

is, rom Cveni parlamenti iqca, ame-

rikelTa SefasebiT, `rezinis

Stampad~, romelic yovel sxdoma-

ze `Stampavs~ saakaSvilis morig

axirebebs, es yvelasaTvis cnobi-

lia! is, rom konstitucias `Wri-

an da keraven~ ise, rogorc undaT

da samarcxvinod _ es araxalia! es

gaxlavT konstituciis abuCad ag-

deba da mTeli erisa! is, rom dRes

evropeli politikosebi saqarTve-

loze anegdotebs hyvebian, samar-

cxvino ar gaxlavT? TurqmeneTsac

ki adareben saqarTvelos, sadac

maSindelma prezidentma Turqmen

baSim konstituciaSi Seitana cv-

lileba, rom wlis erT-erT Tves

darqmeoda dedamisis saxeli! meo-

re Tves ki daarqva sayvareli po-

etis saxeli. man aseve Secvala

kviris dReebis saxelwodebebi. es

iyo 8-9 wlis win, anu arc Tu ise

Soreul wlebSi. parlamentSi

aris dRes sruliad daxSuli at-

mosfero, roca arsebobs sruli

umravlesoba _ 116 kaci naciona-

lebis warmomadgenlebi da kidev

ufro aqtiuri e.w. `opozicione-

rebi~ _ romlebic emsaxurebian na-

cionalebs _ sul raRac 20 kaci.

nacionalebis umravlesobis mTel

nawils, ramodenimes garda, wle-

bis ganmavlobaSi xma ar amouRiaT

ise isxden parlamentSi! dabolos,

minda vTqva, es aris yvelaze cudi

parlamenti rac ki Cvens istoria-

Si bolo 20 wlis ganmavlobaSi

yofila! praqtikulad, maT gatexes

parlamentis fici! me, srulad

Segnebulad SemiZlia vTqva, rom me

es fici ar gamitexavs, miuxedavad

imisa, rom xSirad iyo Cemze zewo-

la, fizikuri Tavdasxmis CaTvliT.

roca kako boboxiZe parlamentSi

Tavs damesxa, xeli ar gaminZrevia,

mxolod vfiqrobdi, rom damabra-

lebdnen, TiTqos kako boboxiZes

TiTebi vatkine Cemi Tavis qaliT

da amaze gamasamarTlebdnen! es ar

iyo gamoricxuli _ iseTi usamar-

Tloba trialebs qveynis parlamen-

tSi!

_ Tumca, Tqven parlamentari

iyaviT, yvelaferi televiziiT da-

fiqsirda da normalur qveyanaSi

sisxlis samarTlis saqme unda aR-

Zruliyo?

_ wesiT ki. wlebis win is xom

Jurnalistsac daesxa Tavs, magram

maSin is daawinaures kidec, gvar-

diis sardlad daniSnes pasuxism-

gebaSi micemis nacvlad! ai, aseT

qveyanaSi vcxovrobT!

2007 wels, kidev moifiqres

da gaakeTes is, rom parlaments

CamoaSores iseTi autaneli nacio-

naluri saxeebi, rogoric iyvnen

maia nadiraZe, da sxvebi. samagie-

rod, dRes uaresi saxeebi miiRes

wiklaurisa da boboxiZis saxiT.

dRes nugzar wiklauri gamo-

dis da acxadebs, rom biZina iva-

niSvili aris recidivisti da amas

Riad afiqsireben, imitom, rom ase-

Ti gamoTqmebi moswons saakaSvils.

imasac ver xvdebian, rom, rac uf-

ro meti eyolebaT parlamentSi

wiklaurebis, minaSvilebis, bobo-

xiZeebisa Tu gabaSvilisnairebi,

miT ufro wamgebian poziciaSi iq-

nebian da xalxis risxvas daimsa-

xureben.

dRevandelze ufro cudi da

qmeduunaro parlamenti qveyanas

jer ar hyolia! sabednierod, male

mTavrdeba am ficis gamtexi da sa-

marcxvino parlamentis vada!

_ parlamentaris ficSi yvela-

ze mTavari romeli punqtia?

_ es gaxlavT xalxis, adamia-

nebis interesebis, uflebebis dac-

va, qveynis usafrTxoebis dacva!

ficis gatexva Zvelidan moyole-

buli saqarTveloSi yvelaze sa-

marcxvinod iTvleboda da iTvle-

ba axlac. es ki ficis gamtexi

parlamentia! morCili parlamenti

rom ar yofiliyo, saa-

kaSvili ver miarTmevda

`langriT~ xelSi sa-

qarTvelos teritorie-

bis did nawils ruseTs.

_ oriode TveSi, 1

oqtombers, parlamentis

arCevnebi Catardeba, ama-

ze ras gvetyviT?

_ rodesac `davTre-

biT~ Sedian ojaxebSi

da gamokiTxvas atare-

ben, es sruli uazro-

baa, iq simarTles maT

aravin etyvis. marTa-

lia, SiSis sindromis

daZlevis niSnebi aSka-

raa, magram pirdapir

xalxi amas jer ar ake-

Tebs. Cemi upiratesoba

is gaxlavT, rom kargad

vicnob, rogorc saakaSvilis re-

Jims, aseve biZina ivaniSvils. ba-

toni biZina gaxlavT is adamiani,

romelic araviTar SemTxvevaSi ar

daarRvevs kanons da arc dauSvebs

qveyanaSi Zaladobas, magram vici,

rac moxdeba.

ramdeni xmac ar unda daagro-

vos batoni biZinas `qarTulma oc-

nebam~ `nacionaluri moZraoba~ 30

procentze mets ar gamoacxadebs!

samarTliani arCevnebi rom iyos,

is 70 procentamde xmebs moipo-

vebs, magram masobrivi gayalbebis

Semdeg, administraciuli resur-

sis gamoyenebis Semdeg. daterore-

bis Semdeg `nacebi~ ki ar daiTv-

lian xmebs, aramed pirdapir gamo-

acxadeben, rom miiRes 60-70 pro-

centze meti. `Tavis momxre~ opo-

ziciasac Seiyvanen parlamentSi,

biZina ivaniSvils ki `ar gamouwe-

ren~ 30 procentze mets; me amaSi

sruliad, darwmunebuli var! mere

ki, isini yvelaferze wamsvlelebi

arian!

Tu xalxis protesti ar dacx-

reba da iqneba Zlieri talRa, ro-

melic saxlSi ar wava ise, ro-

gorc adre, eri gaimarjvebs!

erTi ram unda gaigos xalxma.

eseni xelisuflebidan nebiT wams-

vlelni ar arian!

_ msoflio praqtikaSi xom

xdeba ise, rogorc amerikaSi mox-

da, rom, SesaZlebelia, da Tu

xalxis neba iqneba, xmebis xelaxa-

li gadaTvla, Tu ocdaaT procen-

tian `qviTars~ gamouweren biZina

ivaniSvils, rogorc Tqven TqviT,

xalxma amaze xma unda amoiRos...

es kanonieria...

_ xmebis gadaTvlas sWirdeba

safuZveli, es safuZveli unda

scnos saarCevno komisiam da Sesa-

bamisma sasamarTloebma. CvenSi es

dRes SeuZlebelia.

eTer kasreliSvili

waval televizors

CavrTav, iqneb `rusTa-

vi-22~, `imedma~ an pir-

velma arxma Tqvas, _

putinis jibidan amoRebul

fuls xelfasebad rom iRebda

xelisufleba, maSin sxva putini

iyo? an soflis meurneo-

bis mdgradad aRorZinebis

mosurneebma, ratom uTx-

res am sazizRar ivaniS-

vils sofelSi miliardis

Cadebaze uari, maSin xom

politikaSi ar iyo Semos-

uli da xelfasebs aZlev-

da amaT, yazarmebs aSeneb-

da da a.S. raRacebs ver

vigeb da iqneb gavnaTlde.

raRac sazizRari

da antisaxelmwi-

foebrivi kiTxvebi

modis Tav-

Si,etyoba sabWoTa bavSvo-

bis bralia... netav romelime

kgb-ss daqvemdebarebul insti-

tutSi meswavla,xom momividoda

patriotuli kiTxvebi azrad?

aba, gpi damTavrebuls,ra meco-

dineba...an biZa mainc myoloda

sabWoTa kgb-ss an ruseTis spec-

samsaxurebis generali

mixeil saakaSvili:

,,meti saqme ara maqvs

Cemi aSenebuli qveyana

Tqven gadmogabaroT da

Tqven dagangrevinoT!”......

es sityvebi man baTumSi ga-

nacxada da es ukve Camoyalibe-

buli diqtatoris sityvebia!

sruli pasuxismgeblobiT vacxa-

deb - saakaSvili Camoyalibebu-

li diqtatoria

Sejibrebis dReebSi

rogor amayad, wamdau-

wum gvimeorebdnen ko-

mentatorebi, SexedeT,

rogor seriozuli gamometyve-

lebiT zis Cveni gundis Tav-

kaci, avstrieli zaizenbaxe-

rio! „toJe mne ivan grozni“!

im munjad jdomas sjobda

sxva qveynis mwvrTnelebiviT

cota meti eyvira, SeniSvna

da rCeva mieca sportsmenebi-

saTvis, egeb ukeTesi Sedegic

gvqonoda. Tundac Sexvedris

damTavrebamde, 5 wamiT adre,

SukvanisTvis qarTulad rom

SeeZaxa: aba, vaJkaco, axla

WkuiTao, egeb jer kidev ymaw-

vils, 4 welnavarjiSev-nnaja-

fars ukeTesi SedegisTvis mi-

eRwia ... magram ver iswavla

ucxo Citma qarTulad WikWiki.

an raSi sWirdeba? mofrinda, mo-

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qvami: TuraSaulis patroni,

tyeSi eZebda „zaxer-mmaxerebso“!

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darwmunebuli var, `nacionalebi~ arCevnebSi`qarTul ocnebas~ ocdaaT procentze mets ar `gamouweren~, riTac qveyanas

samoqalaqo dapirispirebisTvis wiraven...

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19saerTo gazeTi#34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.

dRevandeli “sazogadoebrivi

mauwyeblis” erT-erT “cnobad

saxesac sazogadoebriv mauwye-

belze dabrunebuli da viTom

Jurnalisti daviT paiWaZe war-

moadgens. paiWaZes Jurnalisti-

kasTan mxolod diplomi Tu

akavSirebs, Torem paiWaZis pro-

fesionaluri saqmianoba iseve

Sorsaa Jurnalistikisgan, ro-

gorc saxelisuflebo arxebze

“momuSave” bevri Jurnalistisa

da gadacemebis wamyvanis. maT

mTavar davalebac, ara marTla

sazogadoebis moTxovnisa da in-

teresis gaTvaliswineba, aramed

mxolod nacionalebis ideolo-

giuri kursis gatarebaa. eklesi-

asa da samarTlianobasTan mebr-

Zoli “profesionali wamyvanisa

da Jurnalistis” saxedac, bolo

periodSi _ swored daviT paiWa-

Ze iqca. SegaxsenebT, rom es is

daviT paiWaZea, romelic “iv. ja-

vaxiSvilis saxelobis Tbilisis

saxelmwifo universitetis”

Jurnalistikis kaTedris dekano-

bidan mas Semdeg gaaTavisufles,

rac xelisuflebam korufcias-

Tan brZolis sababiT, jer uni-

versitetis avtonomia gaauqma.

22 fakultetidan eqvsi datova.

bolos ki, universitetis pro-

fesuraze, leqtorebsa da stu-

dentebze TvalTvalis mizniT,

kabinetebsa da auditoriebSi

saTvalTvalo kamerebic daayena.

universitetis profesorebis

gadmocemiT, swored erT-erT

aseT kameras daufiqsirebia da-

viT paiWaZisa da misi megobari

ymawvilis “erTob pikanturi ur-

TierTobac”. sazogadoebaSi skan-

dalis da paiWaZis “umwikvlo

reputaciis” gadasarCenad, samu-

Saod isev sazogadoebriv mauwye-

belze gadaiyvanes. xelisufle-

bac aseT kadrebs xom “sanTliT

daeZebs da civ niavsac ar aka-

rebs”. swored amitom, vis Tu

ara daviT paiWaZis pirdapiri

movaleoba iyo im samociqulo

marTlmadidebluri eklesiis

mitropolitis ganqiqeba, rome-

lic “paiWaZis orientaciis” uz-

neobas amxels da sazogadoebas

maT garyvnilebaze miuTiTebs. xe-

lisuflebis madliersa da misi

antimarTlmadidebluri ideo-

logiis mimdevarsac, vis, Tu ara

daviT paiWaZes unda moewyo im

meufe iobis “sajaro gankiTxva”,

romelic patriarqis Semdeg sa-

zogadoebaSi didi siyvaruliTa

da avtoritetiT sargeblobs.

yvelaze mTavari ki is gaxlavT,

rom meufe iobi saqarTvelos mo-

saxleobis udides nawilTan er-

Tad ivaniSvilis aqciaze misuli

ixila xalxma. es ki “paiWaZis

magvarTa modgmisTvis” sagangaSo

signalad unda qceuliyo! amdeni

“nawvaleb- naSromi” _ “eklesii-

sa da mRvdelmTavrebis saxelis

gatexvisTvis gaweuli Sroma”

saakaSvils gunds wyalSi eyreba.

erica da beric erTad udgeba

saakaSvilis “nomer pirvel

mters” _ ivaniSvils! es, miuxe-

davad “fdms” (“farisevel-de-

mokratebis”) nacionalur moZra-

obasTan umravlesobis Seqmnis

didi imedisa umravlesobiT, bi-

Zina ivaniSvilis “qarTuli oc-

nebis” gamarjvebas moaswavebs!

ivaniSvilisa da “qarTuli su-

lis” gamarjvebam ki (TavisTa-

vad), SesaZloa, “paiWaZis msgavs-

Ta zneobriv parpaSsac” Seuqmnas

problemebi?! amis gamo “jojo-

xeTidan reportaJebs” (cxra

wlis Semdegac) ar daukargavT

aqtualoba!

paiWaZis gadacemis “wiTel

xazSi” _ “sad unda gadiodes

zRvari sasuliero piris saqmia-

nobasa da politikas Soris”,

naTlad gamoikveTa meufe iobze

uaryofiTi sazogadoebrivi azris

Seqmnis mcdeloba. aman naciona-

lebs eklesiis saboloo ganadgu-

rebaSi xeli rom ar SeeSaloT,

(eklesiaSi Segzavnili “naciona-

li emisrebis” xeliTa da patri-

arqze zewoliT) sabolood meu-

fe iobis eklesiidan CamoSoreba

unda gamoiwvios! viTom Jurna-

listi paiWaZis gadacemac sazoga-

doebrivi azris amgvarad formi-

rebas isaxavda miznad. Tumca

“liberasti Jurnalistis” gada-

cema imdenad ususuri da arapro-

fesionaluri aRmoCnda _ saeWvoa,

nacionalebis madloba daimsaxu-

ros. ”eklesiis modernizaciisa

da liberasturi azrovnebis”

mqone, (aw ukve yofili dekano-

zic), Tuki sadme marTlmadideb-

lur eklesiaze uaryofiT azria

dasafiqsirebeli, iq aucileblad

kobaxiZec Cndeba! (paiWaZis Semd-

gom gadacemaSi, albaT, beqa min-

diaSvilsac vixilavT.) kobaxiZec,

misTvis Cveuli demagogiiTa da

arakompetenturobiT cdilobda

paiWaZis poziciis gamyarebas. uR-

merTobam, (ucxoeTSi xangrZlivi

swavlisas) “mowamlulma libe-

rasturma azrovnebam”, sCans, go-

neba masac ise daubnela, rom pat-

riarqis qadagebidan swori dask-

vnebis gamotanis unaric daakarg-

vina. “sinodis dadgenilebiT gas-

ca eklesiam pasuxi da patriar-

qic TviTon ewinaaRmdegeba saku-

Tari sinodis dadgenilebaso”.

ekumenisti kobaxiZisgan gasakviri

araa, “sinods patriarqis sakuT-

rebad” Tvlis. arc isaa misi

problema marTlmadidebluri

qveynebis gverdigverd dgomaSi,

moskovis (da ara marTlmadideb-

luri ruseTis) sapatriaqros

doqtrinas rom xedavs. problema

isaa, (yofili dekanozi) saqarT-

velos gadarCenis gzas istoriu-

lad qristianul-marTlmadideb-

lur samyarosTan gverdSi dgo-

miT rom ver xedavs! nacionalebis

msagavsad, isev “bua ruseTTan”

dakavSireba rom surs yvelafris.

amasTan, patriarqis qadagebaSi

(rac sazogadoebam, patriarqisgan

swored meufe iobis mxardaWerad

aRiqva) kobaZiZem, patriarqis si-

nodis gadawyvetilebisgan gamij-

vnad gaigo da es azri, gadacemis

ganmavlobaSi, araerTxel gaimeo-

ra. anu sazogadoebisTvis gankuT-

vnili gzavnili _ “patriarqsa da

sinods erTmaneTis ar esmiTo!”_

dafiqsirebul iqna! araprofesio-

nalurad momzadebul gadacemaSi,

(uneblied) paiWaZesac gaepara,

rom “sasuliero pirebi xSirad

xvdebian parlamentis Tavmjdoma-

resa da prezidentsac”, riTac,

Turme “patriarqma dezavuireba

gaukeTa imas, rom saqarTvelos

samRvdeloeba da eklesia aqtiu-

rad da Riad uWers mxars arse-

bul xelisuflebas”?! (am simar-

TliT gaamarjvebinos naciona-

lur moZraobas mtkicebulebad

moyvanil iqna is, rom “guSinwin

patriarqi iyo TelavSi da pre-

zidentTan erTad Wiqac awiao”.

patriarqi Tavis saqmeebze marT-

lac iyo Casuli TelavSi, magram

saakaSvili aravis daupatiJebia

iq! saakaSvils xalxis mxardaWe-

ra Semoaklda da “mawanwala ZaR-

liviT” aqeT aekida patriarqs,

radgan, sadac patriaria- iq sa-

qarTvelo da qarTveli xalxia!

is, visi mxardaWerac saakaSvils

dRes “haeriviT sWirdeba” da

“Tu ivaniSvils meufe iobi ud-

gas gverdiT, (da patriarqic, ra-

tom ara?!) me patriarqi midga-

so” _ yvelas rom daanaxos. par-

tiarqs daupatiJebeli stumari-

viT daadga Tavze TelavSi. saa-

kaSvilis gauzrdeloba ra pat-

riarqis bralia?! “sufrasTan mi-

cucqebul” e.w. prezidents ki

ara, Semoswrebul maTxovarsac

dausxamda patriarqi Rvinos da

miipatiJebda sufrasTan. ase rom,

xelisuflebis sasargeblod ga-

keTebuli es pasaJic mxolod pa-

iWaZis Jurnalistur araprofe-

sionalizmze metyvelebda. maSin,

rodesac saqarTveloSi nacebis

antimarTlmadidebluri, antisa-

xelmwifoebrivi da aniqarTuli

kursis gamo “antinacisturi

talRa” zvirTdeba, sinodis gan-

Cinebaze sasaubrod (ekumenisti)

kobaxiZis mowvevac _ sruli di-

letantizmi iyo. Jurnalistur

araprofesionalizme miuTiTebda

konstituciuri SeTanxmebaze ape-

lirebac. Turme “konstituciuri

SeTanxmebac, (gansakuTrebiT ki

sinodis bolo ganCineba), erTma-

neTisgan mijnavs sasuliero da

saero moRvaweobas”. Sen Jurna-

listoba vin dagabrala, paWaZev?!

Tu (konkordatis safuZvelze),

eklesiisa da xelisuflebis er-

TmaneTis saqmianobaSi Caurevlo-

baze apelireb, imas ratom ar

gaxsendeba, 4 ivlisis Rames, (si-

nodis cnobili sxdobis win,

swored mis saqmianobaSi Casare-

vad), rogor micvivdnen ugulava,

TofuriZe da kervaliSvili sa-

patriarqoSi, mTeli Rame iq ro-

gor isxdnen?! rogor Seuvarda

ugulava partiarqs “samebis” sa-

kurTxevelSi. ra drosac parti-

arqis qadagebis Semdeg ara Tu

saero, sasuliero pirsac ambio-

nidan qadagebis ufleba ara aqvs,

gaixsene, erTi, ramdenjer avard-

nila da ra politikuri gancxa-

debebi ukeTebia jer kidev “pre-

zidentad wodebul araraobas”

ambionidan?! am dros ratom ar

gaxsendeba konkordati?! rac Se-

exeba mRvdelmTavrebis mier ambi-

onidan qadagebas, diaxac, sabed-

nierod (da Tqveni gulebis dasa-

xeTqad), meufe iobisa da bevri

sasuliero piris saxiT, jer ki-

dev Zalian bevri gvyavs iseTi

mRvdelmTavrebi da mamebi, rom-

lebic swored saqarTvelosTvis

yvelaze umZimes periodSi Tavis

xalxis gverdiT dgebodnen, dge-

bian da dadgebian!

`maRali zneobisa da mora-

lis~ paiWaZis gadacemaSi “qar-

Tuli ocnebisadmi” arakeTil-

ganwyobilma politikurma Za-

lebmac Sesabamisi gancxadebebi

akeTes: “edp”-m, romelic parla-

mentSi moxvedrisTvis naciona-

lebTan valSia: “politika da

eklesia unda iyos gamijnuli.

qadagebebi ki imaze mianiSnebs,

rom sworedac ereviano”. “ax-

lebmac”, romlebic erT dros

patriaqris ideas “konstituci-

uri monarqiis” Sesaxeb ase

uWerdnen mxars, dRes ki nacio-

nalebma “gverdze moaCoCes”: “ar

unda CaerTon am procesebSio”.

“fdm” ki, romelic “patriarqis

kurTxeviT” politikaSi mosv-

laze Tavad aqcentirebda mudam.

axla ki nacionalebis pirvel

satelitad moiazreba _ “ekle-

sia polarizaciaSi ar unda ga-

davideso.” es gadacemac paiWaZis

Jurnalisturi karieri~, sruli

fiasko iyo da mis adgilze nam-

dvil Jurnalits ekranze gamo-

Cenisac ki Sercxveboda! Tumca

paiWaZisnairebTan sircxvili ra

mosatania?!

baia amaSukeli

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

www.saertogazeti.netSSeemmooggvviieerrTTddiiTT FACEBOOK-zze

`reportaJebi jojoxeTidan~

biZina iivaniSvili JJurnalistebs mimarTavs: CCven yyvelafers ggavakeTebT,

rom ddaibrunoT RRirsebakoalicia „qarTu-

li ocnebis“ lideri

biZina ivaniSvili

Jurnalistebs mimar-

Tavs.

„nu SegeSindebaT

zedmetad. gamoiCineT

da gauwieT moqalaqe-

obrivi winaaRmdegoba.

nu SeebrZolebiT sakuTar momavals da nu gau-

fuWebT Tqvens Svilebs xvalindel dRes. Cven maT

aucileblad gavistumrebT pirvel oqtombers. Za-

lian cota dro darCa, imisTvis, rom Tqven sa-

zogadoebas daumtkicoT, Tu rogor winaaRdmego-

bas uwevT am sicruesa da sicruis meqanizms, ro-

melsac erTi kaci nergavs,“ - ganacxada biZina

ivaniSvilma foTSi mosaxleobasTan Sexvedrisas.

misive TqmiT, sazogadoeba Zalian gaRizianebu-

lia bevr Jurnalistze.

„Cemi Txova da sazogadoebis moTxovna iqneba,

rom rogorme pozicia SeicvaloT, rogorme gax-

deT ufro obieqturebi, nu eqvemdebarebiT Zala-

dobas. unda moaxerxoT da dabrundeT sazogado-

ebaSi. Tqven realurad warmoadgenT meoTxe xeli-

suflebas, daibruneT Tqveni Zalaufleba, emsaxu-

reT xalxs da nu emsaxurebiT erT kacs, Cven yve-

lafers gavakeTebT rom Tqven daibrunoT Rirse-

ba,“ - aRniSna biZina ivaniSvilma.

biZina iivaniSvili: 330-ssaukuniani uwyveti iistoriis qqveyanas

dRevandeloba aar eekadrebakoalicia „qarTuli ocnebis“ lideris biZina

ivaniSvilis gancxadebiT, aseTi didi kulturisa

da 30-ssaukuniani uwyveti istoriis qveyanas dRe-

vandeloba ar ekadreba.

„Cvens gasakeTebels aravin gaakeTebs. arc ev-

ropa da arc amerika. Cveni saxli Cven TviTon un-

da davalagoT, amas elodeba mTeli msoflio.

Cven unda movaxerxoT da davibrunoT Rirseba.

Cven unda movaxerxoT da davibrunoT Cveni sam-

Soblo, avaSenoT Sesatyvisi qveyana aseTi didi

kulturisa da 30- saukuniani uwyvetis istori-

is qveyanas dRevandeloba ar ekadreba, Cven amas

ar vimsaxurebT,“ - ganacxada biZina ivaniSvilma

foTelebTan Sexvedrisas.

`medianiusi~

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`̀TTiiTTqqooss nneellii wwaammeebbiiTT ssiikkvvddii-

llii mmaaqqvvss mmoossjjiillii ddaa aamm wwaammeebbiiss

xxaannggrrZZlliivv ggzzaass ssaamm-ssaammwwlliiaannii

ssiiCCqqaarriiTT ggaavvddiivvaarr kkiiddee.. eess vveerr

ggaammiiggiiaa,, ssaammSSoobblloo iimmiittoomm mmiiyy-

vvaarrss,, rroomm aassee SSoorrssaa vvaarr,, TTuu iimmii-

ttoomm vvaarr aassee SSoorrss,, rroomm aassee ZZllii-

eerraadd mmiiyyvvaarrss ssaammSSoobblloo.. ssaadd aarr

mmaaTTrriieess,, ssaadd aarr ggaaddaammaaggddeess,, ssaadd

aarr mmaawwvvaalleess.. yyvveellaaffeerrss rroomm CCaavv-

yyeevvii ddaa ggaavviixxsseennee,, TTvviiTToonn ggaannvvcc-

vviiffrrddii,, nnuuTTuu yyvveellaaffeerrii mmee mmxxvvddaa

wwiillaadd...... CCeemmss TTaavvzzee mmZZiimmee zzRRaappaarr-

mmaa ggaaddaaiiaarraa.. eerrTTii aaddaammiiaanniissTTvviiss

eess bbeevvrrzzee bbeevvrriiaa ggaaddaassaattaannaadd ddaa

ddaauujjeerreebbeelliicc~~,, _ werda `mav-

TulsiqiTa~ samyarodan gamogzav-

nil baraTSi levan goTua, `bib-

liuri kaci~, romelmac 22 weli

gaatara gadasaxlebaSi.

1960 wels gamocemul isto-

riul roman `gmirTa varams~,

romlis tiraJi 30-aTasiani iyo

da umokles xanSi gaiyida, ar ga-

aCnda winasityvaoba, Tu vin iyo

am wignis avtori. es arc aris

gasakviri, radgan im dros vera-

vin gabedavda raimes Tqmas mwe-

ralze, romelmac sicocxlis me-

samedi _ 22 weli sabWoTa bana-

kebSi gaatara da sadac dawera

kidec es nawarmoebi.

romanis gamoqveynebis Semde-

gac, karga xans mkiTxvelTa ume-

tesobam TiTqmis araferi icoda

misi tragikuli biografiis Sesa-

xeb, vidre 1990 wels Jurnal

`mnaTobSi~ ar daibeWda mwerlis

da-Zmis _ Tamar da sandro goTu-

ebis `Tavgadasavali levan goTu-

asi~. es aris dRiuri-dokumenti,

romelSic ara marto mwerlis,

aramed goTuebis ojaxis Tavgada-

savalia gadmocemuli. es dRiure-

bi 25 welze meti xnis ganmavlo-

baSi iwereboda da masSi, erTi

ojaxis istoriasTan erTad, qvey-

nis ocdaaTiani da ormocdaaTia-

ni wlebis cxovrebaa gadmocemu-

li.

oojjaaxxii,, ppiirrvveellii

ppaattiimmrroobbaa

levanis mamas _ parTen goTu-

as, sazogado moRvawes, Jurna-

listsa da mwerals, akaki wereT-

lis megobars `samSoblos fxi-

zel da erTgul darajad~ moix-

seniebda misi Tanamedrove moRva-

we ioseb imedaSvili. uzrunveli

bavSvoba maSin dasrulda, roca

goTuebis ojaxis TiTqmis yvela

wevri qaliSvilis qorwilSi da-

apatimres. mere ra, rom Semowme-

bis Semdeg meore dResve gamouS-

ves yvela, magram ojaxs zeimi Ca-

aSxames...

1921 wels, roca wiTeli ar-

mia saqarTveloSi SemoiWra, 16

wlis levani da misi Zma arCili

ojaxisgan malulad, moxa-

liseebad gaiparnen omSi _

tabaxmelaSi, kojrisa da

uZos misadgomebTan uTanas-

woro brZola mimdinareob-

da da Wabukma patriotebma

swored iq miiRes sabrZolo

naTloba. marTalia, sikv-

dils Tavi daaRwies, arc

Wrilobebi miuRiaT, magram

fizikurad daZabunebulebi

da gulgatexilebi erT kvi-

raSi ojaxSi dabrundnen.

sruliad axalgazrdebi gau-

gonari sisastikis mowmeni

gaxdnen da es STabeWdile-

bebi didxans ar ganelebiaT _

Tvalwin xSirad wamoutivtivde-

bodaT, Tu rogor asaflavebdnen

saZmo saflavebSi mebrZolebs...

bolSevikuri xelisuflebis

damyarebis Semdeg im adamianebis

devna daiwyo, vinc maT saqarTve-

loSi Semosvlas ewinaaRmdegebo-

da. represiebis wnexi maleve iw-

vnies goTuebma, roca CamoarTves

qoneba, saxlis didi nawili da

meTvalyure missave saxlSi miu-

Cines...

1924 wels _ bolSevikTa wi-

naaRmdeg Cafiqrebuli agvistos

ajanyeba moRalateebma gasces da

daiwyo sayovelTao sisxliani

terori. ajanyebis uSualo mona-

wileebTan erTad udanaSaulo

xalxs apatimrebdnen da xvretd-

nen. daWeras verc levani gadaur-

Ca da verc mamamisi. erTmaneTs

cixeSi Sexvdnen, sadac Svidi Tve

gaatares. patimrebze zemoqmede-

bis ra xerxebs ar iyenebdnen. er-

Txel, SuaRamisas, viTom Secdo-

miT, levanis nacvlad parTen go-

Tua gaaRviZes da dasaxvretad

wayvana daupires. sasowarkveTili

mama emudareboda cixis jala-

Tebs, oRondac Cemi Svili ara, me

damxvriteTo... im avbediT 24

wels cocxlebi gadaurCnen...

1925 wels goTuebis ojaxi

abasTumanSi isvenebda, roca Ce-

kistebma levani daapatimres.

axalcixis mazris partiulma

xelmZRvanelma saidumlo paketiT

acnoba saqarTvelos sagangebo

komisiis saidumlo operatiuli

sammarTvelos ufross lavrenti

berias, rom goTuebis binaSi

Cxrekisas antisabWoTa mimoweras

miakvlies... levans faSisturi

organizaciis Camoyalibeba daab-

rales da sami wliT patimroba

miusajes. aseTebisTvis qarTuli

cixeebi ar `emetebodaT~ da amje-

rad 20 wlis levani, samSoblos

moRalatis iarliyiT, Soreul

aRmosavleTSi, soloveckis kun-

Zulebisken ise gauyenes gzas,

rom axloblebTan xeirianad ga-

momSvidobebis uflebac ar mis-

ces.

ppiirrvveellii ggaaddaassaaxxlleebbaa

cixed gadakeTebul mamaTa mo-

nasterSi aRmoCnda. `istoriulad

ZZvveell-ddiiddeebbuullmmaa cciixxee-ssiimmaaggrreemm,,

aammjjeerraadd CCaaffooxxiillmmaa,, ggaappaarrttaaxxee-

bbuullmmaa ddaa CCaaSSaavveebbuullmmaa bbaannaakkmmaa,,

mmZZiimmee SSTTaabbeeWWddiilleebbaa ddaammiittoovvaa...... CCee-

mmii bbeeddiiss ddaacciinnvvaa ddaa uukkuuRRmmaarrTToo-

bbaa mmaaggrrZZnnoobbiinnaa.. ggaaZZlleebbaazzee ddaa aarr-

sseebboobbaazzee CCaammaaffiiqqrraa.. vveerrcc wwaarrmmoo-

iiddggeennTT,, rraa xxddeebbaa aaqq.. eess yyoovveelliivvee

aammqqvveeyynniiuurrii aarr aarriiss...... jjeerrjjeerroo-

bbiiTT mmee TTvviiTToonn vveerr ggaavveerrkkvviiee aamm

jjoojjooxxeeTTSSii......~~ (levan goTuas we-

rilidan).

am banakSi ZiriTadad sisxlis

samarTlis damnaSaveebi _ mkvle-

lebi da banditebi ixdidnen sas-

jels, sadac `̀ppoolliittiikkuurrii TTuu

ssiissxxlliiss ssaammaarrTTlliiss ddaammnnaaSSaavvee,,

TTiiTTooeeuullii ppiirroovvnneebbaa ggaaddaaxxeeuulliiaa,,

rrooggoorrcc CCvveennii ccxxoovvrreebbaa......~~ (levan

goTua). aseT CaJamebul yofaSi,

sadac moqmedebda `sisastikisa da

ulmoblobis saSineli kanonebi~,

sadac mZvinvarebda `adamianTa

sikvdili, rogorc sruliad Cve-

ulebrivi, ulmo-

beli ambavi~, qar-

Tvelebi erTmane-

Tis gatanas cdi-

lobdnen. `Crdi-

loeTis patara

ubnis saqarTve-

loSi~ devizic

hqondaT _ `urTi-

erTgamagreba, da-

xmareba, erT mu-

Wad Sekvra. mZime

duxWiris gadata-

na da sicocxlis

SenarCuneba...~ sx-

vagvarad Tavis ga-

darCena SeuZlebe-

li iqneboda sa-

koncentracio ba-

nakSi, romelic

`gansacvifrebeli

da autaneli Ser-

wymaa `drostare-

bisa~ da patimar-

Ta tragikuli be-

diswerisa~.

garkveuli periodis Semdeg,

levani sakoncentracio banakidan

gaaTavisufles da patimroba Ta-

visufali gadasaxlebiT, minus

eqvsiT Seucvales; ese igi, le-

vans yvelgan SeeZlo Tavisufal

gadasaxlebaSi wasuliyo garda

eqvsi qalaqisa, maT Soris iyo

dedaqalaqebi da sazRvrispira qa-

laqebi.

TTaavviissuuffaallii

ggaaddaassaaxxlleebbaa

ssaammSSoobblloossTTaann aaxxllooss

ojaxma sacxovreblad vladi-

kavkazi SearCia, radgan parTen

goTua erTxans am qalaqSi muSa-

obda da megobrebic hyavda, rom-

lebsac levanis daxmareba SeeZ-

loT. Tavisufali gadasaxleba

ki erqva, magram sakoncentracio

banakis wesebiT cxovreba daud-

gines _ vladikavkazSi Casvlis-

Tanave aRricxvaze aiyvanes, qa-

laqidan gausvlelobis xelwe-

rili daadebines da kviraSi er-

Txel `CekaSi~ gamocxadebis

valdebulebac daakisres. roca

ufrosi Zmis _ arCilis gardac-

valebis ambavi Seityo, arad Ca-

agdo mosalodneli mkacri sas-

jeli da TbilisSi Camovida.

sxva drosac gauriskavs ramden-

jerme da Zmis saflavze Casula,

mamac ki unaxavs, Tumca Sin, ra-

sakvirvelia, ver mividoda.

imdrondel vladikavkazSi ar-

sebobda qarTvelTa mraval-

ricxovani saTvistomo _ 10 aTa-

si qarTveliT. hqondaT qarTuli

skola da eklesia. vladikavkazSi

levanma qarTul skolaSi qarTu-

li enisa da literaturis mas-

wavleblad daiwyo muSaoba, am-

bobda _ egeba, Cemi maswavleblo-

biT aqauri qarTveloba gadagva-

rebisgan gadavarCinoo. litera-

turul saqmianobasac swored

vladikavkazSi mohkida xeli.

`̀mmaarrTTaalliiaa,, aaxxaallggaazzrrddaa iiyyoo,,

mmaaggrraamm rrooccaa iiss SSeeddiiooddaa kkllaassSSii

ggaakkvveeTTiilleebbzzee,, TTaavviissii ddiinnjjii,, wwyynnaa-

rrii ssaauubbrriiTT aajjaaddooeebbddaa mmoommaavvaall

CCvveennss TTaaoobbaass...... qqaarrTTuullii lliitteerraa-

ttuurraa ddaa ssaaqqaarrTTvveelloo lleevvaannmmaa bbaavv-

SSvveebbss iimmddeennaadd SSeeaayyvvaarraa,, rroomm

11993300-iiaann wwlleebbSSii bbeevvrrii qqaarrTTuullii

oojjaaxxii ggaaddmmoovviiddaa TTbbiilliissSSii

ssaaccxxoovvrreebbllaadd......~~ _ ixsenebda Sem-

dgomSi misi kolega-maswavlebe-

li.

karg saqmes rom akeTebda, es

Segnebuli hqonda, magram Sinaga-

nad Zalzed daZabuli da afori-

aqebuli iyo. es ganwyoba daufa-

ravad Cans mamisadmi gagzavnil

erT-erT werilSi:

`̀......rreeggiissttrraacciiaazzee ZZvveelleebbuurraadd

ddaavvddiivvaarr.. aammaass ggaarrddaa,, eexxllaa yyoovveell

TTvveeSSii eerrTTxxeell ddaakkiiTTxxvvaazzee uunnddaa

vviiaarroo,, mmaaTT aarr mmoosswwoonnTT,, mmee rroomm

qqaarrTTuull sskkoollaaSSii vvaarr...... qqaarrTTuull

kkoolloonniiaass kkvvllaavv ggaammooccooccxxlleebbaa

eettyyoobbaa,, mmee,, rraa TTqqmmaa uunnddaa,, vveexxmmaarree-

bbii mmaaTT,, rraacc SSeemmiiZZlliiaa......~~

samma welma ganvlo, magram

sruliad moulodnelad, kidev

sami wliT gauxangrZlives gada-

saxleba. `̀wwaammeebbiiss xxaannggrrZZlliivv ggzzaass

ssaamm-ssaammwwlliiaannii ssiiCCqqaarriiTT ggaavvddiivvaa-

rroo~~, _ swored am periodze am-

bobda igi mogvianebiT.

metis gaZleba aRar SeeZlo,

TanamoaazreebTan erTad TurqeT-

Si gaqceva gadawyvita, megzuric

iSoves da roca egonaT, samSvi-

dobos iyvnen gasuli _ mdinare

Woroxis gadacurvisas, swored

maSin aRmoCndnen `Cekas~ tyveoba-

Si... Turme TviTon gamyolma gas-

ca...

`̀RRiirrsseeuullii mmaammuulliiSSvviilleebbii

ggvviinnddooddaa vvyyooffiilliiyyaavviiTT,, ssaammSSoobb-

llooSSii aammiiss ssaaSSuuaalleebbaa `̀CCeekkaamm~~ yyoo-

vveellmmxxrriivv ddaaggvviixxSSoo,, rrooggoorr mmoo-

vviiqqcceeTT SSeemmddggoommSSii,, aarr vviicciiTT~~,, _

werda levani ojaxs gaqcevamde

cota xniT adre.

daapatimres, isev samSoblos

moRalated monaTles da Tbili-

sis cixeSi droebiT gamoamwyvdi-

es; maleve 5 wliT cimbirSi ga-

daasaxles...

xxaannmmookkllee

ddaabbrruunneebbaa oojjaaxxSSii

...TbilisSi goTuebis saxls

dilaadrian viRac miadga da mo-

ridebiT daakakuna. aseTi kaku-

niT mravaljer aforiaqebul

ojaxs kidev erTxel gadauqandaT

guli... kari gaaRes... saxlSi Se-

vida axovani da xuWuWTmiani ka-

ci, romelic namdvil asakTan Se-

darebiT ufro asakovnad gamoiyu-

reboda. levan goTua daubrunda

sakuTar ojaxs, magram mSvidi

cxovreba mainc ar aRirses.

misjili srulad moixada,

magram bolSevikebis iarliyi

TiTqos samudamo daRad daaCnda

mis biografias. TbilisSi Camo-

suls pasporti dagvianebiT mis-

ces, mere Cawerazec uari ga-

nucxades, metic _ 24 saaTSi de-

daqalaqis datoveba ubrZanes, wi-

naaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi isev gada-

saxlebiT daemuqrnen. sxva raRa

darCenoda, Tavdapirvelad walka-

Si dasaxlda, Semdeg ki axlan-

del bolnisSi, romelsac imxanad

luqsemburgi erqva. swored `sa-

qarTveloSi gadasaxlebis~ wleb-

Si daamTavra ori didi drama _

`CaZiruli sofeli~ da `mefe

erekle~. mogvianebiT, levani am

periods literaturuli aRmav-

lobis periodad afasebda.

1938 wels, rogorc iqna,

TbilisSi Caweris nebarTva gaime-

tes, magram Tavisuflebas mainc

ver eWirsa. es arc iyo gasakviri,

radgan sisxliani 37 weli kudis

moqnevas lamobda _ miuCines ja-

SuSebi, romlebic SeuniRbavad

dahyvebodnen TiTqmis yvelgan.

levanma literaturul saqmiano-

bas mohkida xeli, dros ZiriTa-

dad Teatrebsa da biblioTekebSi

atarebda. biblioTekaSi muSaobi-

sas sagangebod magidaze tovebda

Canawerebs, rom `zemoT~ scodno-

daT, raze muSaobda da eWvi gah-

fantvodaT. miuxedavad amisa, ma-

inc yoveldRe akiTxavdnen saxl-

Si, mwerlis CanawerebSi iqeqe-

bodnen, levanis moralurad ga-

texvas cdilobdnen... miuxedavad

aseTi daZabuli viTarebisa, es

wlebi SemoqmedebiTad mainc nayo-

fieri gamodga. am dros Seiqmna

`daviT aRmaSenebeli~, TeatrSi

idgmeboda misi piesebi `mefe

erekle~, `uZlevelni~, `sami pa-

tarZali~...

`̀ssaammSSoobbllooss

mmooRRaallaattiiss~~

vvoorrkkuuttuullii eeppooppeeaa

1946 wels gadawyvita, Tbi-

liss gascloda da mesxeT-java-

xeTisken gaswia, miT umetes, rom

istoruli romanis dasawerad em-

zadeboda da masalas agrovebda.

`̀vvaarrZZiiiiss xxiillvviiTT gguullii rroomm

vviijjeerree,, mmeerree aassppiinnZZiiss nnaabbrrZZoolleebb

aaddggiilleebbss ggaavvuuaarree...... ssaaiiTTaacc gguullmmaa

ggaammiiwwiiaa,, iiqqiiTT wwaavveeddii.. mmaarrttoo xxeettii-

aallSSii ddaavviiRRaallee ddaa SSeemmoommaaRRaammddaa

kkiiddeecc...... ssaaddaacc ddaammiiRRaammddaa,, iiqqvvee mmiivv-

wweeqqii.. ddiillaass xxeerrTTvviissiiss cciixxiisskkeenn

ggaavvwwiiee.. kkeeTTiillii ggaannwwyyoobbiiTT ggaallaa-

RReebbuullmmaa,, uueeccrraadd mmttkkvvrriiss ggaaRRmmaa

rraaRRaacc mmaannqqaannaass mmoovvkkaarrii TTvvaallii..

SSiigg rraattoommRRaacc jjaaSSuuSSii SSeevviiccaannii..

gguullSSii eellddaamm ggaammkkrraa......~~

winaTgrZnoba utyuari gamod-

ga _ daakaves, marTalia, zurgCan-

TaSi `vefxistyaosnis~ garda ve-

varami da gansacdeli levan goTuasi

`bibliuri kkacis~ TTavgadasavali

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21saerTo gazeTi#34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.

raferi upoves, magram levans anti-

sabWoTa dajgufebis SeqmnaSi mainc

dasdes brali, samSoblos Ralatisa

da propaganda-agitaciis gziT ssrk-

is damxobis mcdelobaSi dasdes bra-

li da megobrebTan erTad cimbiris

gzas gauyenes. `gamousworebel,

mZlavr politikuri moRvawes~ Tav-

dapirveli ganaCeni _ daxvreta aTw-

liani sasjeliT, gamasworebel banak-

Si gadasaxlebiT Seucvales. solov-

kis, narimis, biiskis banakebis Semdeg,

axla ukve vorkutaSi, CrdiloeT yi-

nulovan okeanesTan axlos mdebare

qvanaxSiris sabadoSi gaamweses...

gadasaxlebis win ojaxs swerda:

`̀CCeemmoo kkaarrggeebboo!! CCeemmii bbeeddii ddaa ccxxoovv-

rreebbiiss bboorrbbaallii iisseevv uukkuuRRmmaa ddaattrrii-

aallddaa.. iisseevv SSoorreeuullii mmxxaarree ddaa mmaarr-

ttoooobbaa,, TTiiTTqqooss ggaannggeebbaass SSeemmoowweerriillii

mmaaqqvvss.. rraa vvqqnnaa,, rraa ggzzaass ddaavvaaddggee,, vveerraa-

ffeerrii vveerr SSeevvZZeellii.. rraacc aarriiss,, aarriiss......

iisseeTT ssaaSSiinneell ggaarreemmooccvvaaSSii vvaarrTT,, ssaa-

ddaacc ssiimmaarrTTllee aarr ffaassoobbss!!....~~

`̀CCeemmii nnaawweerreebbii ddaa CCeemmii ggmmiirreebbii

yyoovveellTTvviiss CCeemmzzee bbeeddnniieerreebbii iiyyvvnneenn......

aarr mmSSuurrss!! aasseeTTiiaa bbeeddiiss SSeeuuvvaalloobbaa~~,,

_ swerda axloblebs cimbiridan,

rogorc Tavad uwodebda, `nadirebiT

savse bunagidan~ gamogzavnil weril-

Si...

`̀ggmmiirrTTaa vvaarraammiiss~~

ffaaTTeerraakkiiaannii

TTaavvggaaddaassaavvaallii

iq, im gausaZlis pirobebSi

levans mwerlobisTvis Tavi ar

daunebebia. swored iq dawera

piesa `samsaxeoba raindisa~ da

daiwyo kaxTa mefe aleqsandr

meoreze didi epopeis Seqmna. ma-

RaroSi, sadac is maRali Zabvis

sadgurSi eleqtrikosad muSa-

obda, samalavi moiwyo da nawe-

rebs iq malavda. `̀mmaaRRaallii ZZaabbvviiss

ssaattrraannssffoorrmmaattoorroo ssaaddgguurriiss

kkaarrss mmiiaammaaggrraa ffiirrffiittaa wwaarrwwee-

rriiTT __ `̀ssaassiikkvvddiillooaa!!~~ aabbaa,, rroo-

mmeellii zzeeddaammxxeeddvveellii ggaabbeeddaavvddaa iiqq

SSeessvvllaass!! lleevvaannii TTaavvaauuRReebbllaadd

mmuuSSaaoobbddaa,, ttrraannssffoorrmmaattoorriiss

kkeeddlliiss ggvveerrddiiTT aammooTTxxrriill oorr-

mmooSSii CCaawwoolliillii,, ssaannTTlliiss SSuuqq-

zzee...... aassee iiqqmmnneebbooddaa qqaarrTTuullii

pprroozziiss mmSSvveenneebbaa......~~ xelnawerebs

iqaur qarTvel megobrebs

ukiTxavda da swored es megob-

rebi gaxdnen kidec am romanis

naTliebi _ maT daarqves wigns

`gmirTa varami~, xolo mis av-

tors `levan beri~ uwodes.

saintereso da saocaria am wig-

nis Tbilisamde mogzauroba. banaki-

dan nawerebis gamotana did risks

ukavSirdeboda, magram qarTvelebma

aseTi ram moifiqres: banakis teri-

toriaze morebs guls uRebdnen,

maTSi nawerebs awyobdnen da isev sa-

guldagulod gmanavdnen. qalaqSi ga-

tanil morebs patimrobamoxdili,

Tumca mainc iq mcxovrebi valiko

WumburiZe yidulobda... ase furcel-

furcel Seagroves da gaTavisufle-

bul erT qarTvel gadasaxlebuls

saqarTveloSi gamoatanes...

vorkutaSi gaicno levanma so-

lomon gerSovi, romelsac lado gu-

diaSvili `Tanamedroveobis udides

mxatvars~ uwodebda, xolo mark Sa-

gali `xelovnebaSi simarTlis maZie-

bel mxatvrad~ aRiarebda. swored

levanma gaacno mas qarTuli xelov-

nebis istoria, qarTuli literatu-

ra, `daaavada~ saqarTveloTi. ukiJi-

nebda kidec, `mouTmenlad veli

Tqvens qarTul talRaso~, rac pir-

naTlad Seasrula mxatvarma _ mis

SemoqmedbaSi qarTul motivebs gan-

sakuTrebuli adgili ekava...

stalinis gardacvalebis Semdeg

CrdiloeTis banakebSi rusulma So-

vinizmma imZlavra da gadasaxlebul-

Ta isedac mZime yofa kidev ufro

daamZima. am axal kampanias iolad

ver Seeguebodnen banakebis binadarni

da gaificnen, ramac kidev ufro da-

amZima maTi mdgomareoba _ gaficvis

organizatorebi daapatimres, karce-

rebSi gamoamwyvdies... miuxedavad ami-

sa, 1955 wlis zafxulSi kvlav gai-

ficnen iqauri banakebi da am gafic-

vam iseTi masStabi miiRo, rom vor-

kutaSi sabWoTa kavSiris generalu-

ri prokurori rudenkic ki Cavida

did komisiasTan erTad patimarTa

saqmeebis gansaxilvelad. es procesi

gaWianurda da moTminebadakargulma

levanma, romelmac ar icoda, rodis

mouwevda rigi, komisiis oTaxSi Za-

liT SeaRwia. mTavar prokurorTan

laparakma 2 saaTze met xans gasta-

na. Cven mxolod SegviZlia vivarau-

doT, raze SeiZleboda esaubraT

maT... dabejiTebiT mxolod imis Tqma

SeiZleba, rom centridan movlenil-

ma didmoxelem levan goTuas gaTavi-

suflebas maSinve moawera xeli.

`̀nneebbaayyoofflloobbiiTTii

ppaattiimmrroobbaa~~

banakis araadamianur pirobebs

TavdaRweuli xalxi cdilobda cixi-

dan gaRwevas, levani ki sul sxvag-

varad moiqca:

`̀ggaauuggoonnaarrii,, ggmmiirroobbiiss ttoollffaassii

nnaabbiijjii ggaaddaaddggaa!! mmaann cciixxiiss aaddmmiinniisstt-

rraacciiaass ggaannuuccxxaaddaa,, rroomm ssaassjjeelliiss vvaa-

ddiiss ddaammTTaavvrreebbiiss SSeemmddeeggaacc kkvvllaavv rrCCee-

bbooddaa bbaannaakkSSii,, vviiddrree ssaammSSoobbllooSSii ddaabb-

rruunneebbiiss nneebbaarrTTvvaass aarr mmiisscceemmddnneenn.. llee-

vvaanniiss aamm nnaabbiijjmmaa bbaannaakkiiss aaddmmiinniissttrraa-

cciiiiss ggaakkvviirrvveebbaa,, ddaabbnneeuulloobbaa ddaa ssaaeerr-

TToodd __ ssaaooccaarrii aaJJiioottaaJJii ggaammooiiwwvviiaa......

nneebbaayyoofflloobbiiTTii ppaattiimmrroobbaa rraammddeenniimmee

TTvveess ggaaggrrZZeellddaa......~~

levan goTuasTvis Tavisuflebas

fasi ekargeboda, Tuki saqarTveloSi

dabrunebis nebarTvas ar miscemdnen.

`̀ppaattiimmrreebbii,, zzeeddaammxxeeddvveelleebbii ddaa

uuffrroosseebbii ggaakkvviirrvveebbuulleebbii ddaa SSeewwuuxxee-

bbuulleebbii SSeemmoommccqqeerriiaann,, CCeemmss jjiiuuttoobbaass

WWkkuuaazzee SSeeSSllaass aabbrraalleebbeenn...... `̀lleevvaannii

iissee mmiiaaCCvviieess aamm ccxxoovvrreebbaass,, rroomm TTaavvii-

ssuuffllaadd uukkvvee vveeRRaarr iiccooccxxlleebbssoo~~ __

iirroonniiiiTT aammbboobbeenn iissiinnii.. CCeemmss ttrraaggiikkoo-

mmeeddiiaass ddaasscciinniiaann.. aasseeTTii rraamm bbaannaakkiiss

ppiirroobbeebbSSii aarr mmoommxxddaarraaoo.. ddaappaattiimmrree-

bbiiss kkaannoonnii ddiiddii aassooeebbiiTTaaaa ddaawweerriillii,,

ssaappaattiimmrrooddaann ppaattiimmrriiss ZZaalliiTT ggaaggddee-

bbiiss kkaannoonnii kkii aarr aarrsseebboobbss.. ppaattiimmaarrii

ssiixxaarruulliiTT,, TTvviiTTSSeeggnneebbiiTT,, TTvviiTTnneebbuu-

rraadd uunnddaa wwaavviiddeess ggaannTTaavviissuufflleebbiiss

SSeemmddeegg.. aaqqaacc aassee xxddeebbaa.. mmee SSeevvccvvaallee

yyvveellaaffeerrii...... CCrrddiillooeellii qqaarrTTvveelleebbii

mmeexxvveewweebbooddnneenn ddaa mmaarrwwmmuunneebbddnneenn __ zzee-

ddaammxxeeddvveelleebbiiss,, ZZaaRRlleebbiiss,, nnoommrriiss,,

iiZZuulleebbiiTTii SSrroommiissaa ddaa ddaacciinnvviiss ggaa-

rreeSSee...... uuffrroo mmeettss ddaawweerr,, SSeennss mmwweerr-

lloobbaass ggaaaaRRrrmmaavveebboo.. mmee ggaavvjjiiuuttddii.. eess

xxoomm CCeemmii ssaammuuddaammoodd ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss,,

TTbbiilliissiiss ddaa TTqqvveenn ggaarreeSSee aarrsseebboobbaa

iiqqnneebbaa ddaa aarraa ccxxoovvrreebbaa,, rroommeelliicc

vvggrrZZnnoobb,, TTaannddaaTTaann iiffeerrfflleebbaa......~~

ddaabbrruunneebbaa

1955 wlis agvistoSi jojoxeT-

gamovlili levan goTua saqarTve-

loSi dabrunda. maleve daiwyo im

adamianTaA sasamarTlo procesebi,

romelTa wyalobiTac mas 22 wlis

cixe da gadasaxleba ergo. roca sam-

cxe-javaxeTSi daiWires da cimbirSi

gadasaxleba miusajes, levanma jala-

Tebs mtarvalebi uwoda da TiTqos

wianaswarmetyvelurad SeuZaxa _

aucileblad dadgeba dro, roca sab-

raldebo skamze Tqven TviTonve aR-

moCndebiTo... es dro dadga, rafavas

da misTanebis sasamarTlo procesze

miiwvies kidec levan goTua, magram

sasamarTloSi mowmed gamocxadebaze

uari ganacxda, aqaurobas gaerida da

myinvarwverisken, beTlemis mRvimis-

ken gaswia axalgazrda Tanamoazreeb-

Tan erTad. saqarTvelos mTebSi sia-

ruli did Svebas gvrida...

gadasaxlebidan dabrunebis Sem-

deg sul 17 weliwadi icocxla, ma-

leve dasaxlda armazSi, sadac si-

cocxlis darCenili 10 weliwadi

gaatara. Zalian uyvarda iqauroba.

levanis da Tamari ixsenebda:

`̀yyoovveell SSeemmooddggoommaazzee,, rrooddeessaacc iiqq

vviiyyaavviiTT,, ddiilliiTT TTaavvzzee ddaaggvvaaddggeebbooddaa

ddaa ddaaggvvZZaaxxeebbddaa:: `̀eehheehheeii,, ggaaiiRRvviiZZeeTT,,

SSeexxeeddeeTT~~ ddaa ggvvaaCCvveenneebbddaa SSiioo mmRRvviimmiiss

nnaakkrrZZaalliiddaann mmttkkvvrriiss nnaappiirrzzee CCaammoo-

ssuull iirrmmeebbss.. mmddiinnaarreeSSii ccuurraavvddaa,, TTeevv-

zzaaoobbddaa.. CCvveennii ssaaxxlliiss mmooppiirrddaappiirree

mmxxaarreess,, mmddiinnaarriiss ggaaddaaRRmmaa iiyyoo

bbaarrggiiyyaarriiaass mmTTaa ((ggaaddmmoocceemmiiTT aaqq

wwiinnaaTT ggzzaa yyooffiillaa.. aamm aaddggiillaass

TTuurrmmee zzeeddmmeett bbaarrggss yyrriiddnneenn..

aammiittoomm hhqqvviiaa aasseeTTii ssaaxxeellii))..

lleevvaannmmaa ddaaiiwwyyoo iiqq ggaammooqqvvaabbuu-

lliiss ggaammooTTxxrraa iisseeTTii CCaannaaffiiqq-

rriiTT,, rroomm uuZZvveelleessii xxeellnnaawweerree-

bbiiss mmuuzzeeuummii ggaaeekkeeTTeebbiinnaa.. aamm ggaa-

mmooqqvvaabbuulliissaakkeenn CCvveennii ssaaxxlliiss

mmxxrriiddaann ssaaccaallffeexxoo xxiiddii uunnddaa

ggaaddaaeeggddoo.. uuddiiddeessii eennTTuuzziiaazz-

mmiiTT aaggrroovveebbddaa xxeellnnaawweerreebbss,,

ggaammooqqvvaabbuullss ssaakkuuTTaarrii xxeelliiTT

TTxxrriiddaa,, xxiiddiiss ppaallooeebbiicc mmooii-

ttaanneess ddaa ddaaaassvveess.. lleevvaannss aallppii-

nniizzmmii iittaacceebbddaa,, bbeevvrrii mmwwvveerrvvaa-

llii ddaaiippyyrroo,, mmTTeellii ssaaqqaarrTTvvee-

lloo ffeexxiiTT hhqqoonnddaa SSeemmoovvlliillii,,

uussaaxxeelloo qqvvaabbuulleebbii ddaa cciixxee-

kkooSSkkeebbii aaRRmmooCCeenniillii.. aarrmmaazziiss

xxeeoobbaa xxoomm xxuuTTii TTiiTTiivviiTT iiccoo-

ddaa.. mmaarrttoo kkii aarr ddaaddiiooddaa,,

CCvveenncc aaggvviikkiiddeebbddaa...... aammddeennii ttaann-

jjvvaa-wwvvaalleebbiiss SSeemmddeegg TTaavvii zzRRaa-

ppaarrSSii ggvveeggoonnaa.. mmoovviiddaa aaRRiiaarreebbaa,,

mmaatteerriiaalluurraaddaacc ggaavviimmaarrTTeeTT..

TTiiTTqqmmiiss yyoovveellTTvviiss kkaarrgg xxaassiiaaTTzzee

iiyyoo.. ZZaalliiaann gguulluuxxvvii iiyyoo CCvveenn mmii-

mmaarrTT,, ggvvaanneebbiivvrreebbddaa,, TTiiTTqqooss uunnddooddaa

ggaaddaattaanniillii ggaaWWiirrvveebbaa aaeennaazzRRaauurreebbiinnaa..

vviizzeeddaacc xxeellii mmiiuuwwvvddeebbooddaa,, yyvveellaass

eexxmmaarreebbooddaa –– eessaaxxeelleebbooddaa ddaa uuxxaarroo-

ddaa~~..

aaRRssaassrruullii

1973 wels 67 wlisa gardaicva-

la _ avma senma Seutia, tkivilebs

usityvod itanda, mkurnalobaze

uari ganacxada...

`̀mmaass aarr uuZZeebbnniiaa wwiinnaappaarrTTaa ssaaxxeell-

ggaannTTqqmmuullii ssaavvaannee ddaa ZZvvaallTTSSeessaallaaggii..

iiggii aarrmmaazzSSii,, ssaakkuuTTaarr eezzoossaa ddaa SSeemmoo-

ggaarreennSSii CCaawwvvaa.. aaRRmmoossaavvlleeTTiiddaann mmccxxee-

TTaa eegguullvviiss ddaarraajjaadd,, ddaassaavvlleeTTiiddaann

__ ZZeeggvviiss xxeevvii ddaa cciixxee ddiiddii.. ssaarrkkiinnee-

TTiiss mmTTeebbii ddaa mmoodduudduunnee mmttkkvvaarriicc aaxx-

llooaa.. mmiissggaann aarrccTTuu ZZaalliiaann SSoorrssaaaa

TTvviiTToonn qqaarrTTlloossiissaa ddaa ffaarrnnaavvaazziiss

ssaaffllaavveebbii...... iiqqvveeaa qqaarrTTlloossiiss cciixxee,,

aarraassooddeess SSeemmuussvvrriillii mmtteerrTTaaggaann......

aassee rroomm,, iiggii iisseevv TTaavviiss ggmmiirreebbTTaannaaaa,,

aarr mmooiiwwyyeennss ddaa CCvveennzzee ssaayyvveedduurrii aarr

ddaassccddeebbaa~~..

2005 wels uwmindesisa da une-

taresis, saqarTvelos kaTolikos-

patriarqis ilia meoris kurTxeviT,

levan goTuas _ `bibliuri kacis~,

`levan wamebulis~, `WabukiviT dauR-

leli kacis~, `keTilSobili mamu-

liSvilis~ neSti mcxeTaSi, samTav-

ros dedaTaA monastris ezoSi dakr-

Zales.

gulbaaT WavWavaZe

namdvilad didi gamarjveba moipova dRes

‘’qarTulma ocnebam’’ baTumSi. daaxloebiT, 65

aTasi adamiani miesalma baton biZinas. batonma

biZinam Zalian Tbili, magram principuli sity-

va Tqva. sagulisxmo iyo, rom miuxedavad Zlieri da xan-

grZlivi wvimisa, xalxma Sexvedra ar datova, bravo, aWa-

ra, me mgonia, aWaram yvelas ajoba.

riT gansxvavdeba salonikSi Catarebuli 200-ka-

ciani aqcia saqarTveloSi Catarebuli 2000-is-

gan. dResac daboginobdnen garSemo nac-Spionebi,

magram veranairi eqscesi ver gabedes. saqarTve-

loSi ki 2000 kacsac uwyoben provokacias, vinaidan maT

zurgs xelisufleba da policia umagrebs. ai, ras niS-

navs, rodesac qveyanaSi policia mxolod kanons emsaxu-

reba, rom vinme mosuliyo da daewyo areva aqciis, salo-

nikis policia daicavda Cven uflebebs. gesmiT xalxo?

qarTvelebis Tavisufal sityvas ucxoeTSi ufro icavs

policia, vidre sakuTar qveyanaSi.

didi xania, ar mitiria ... sixarulisgan... siyva-

rulisgan... miyvarxarT, goniero, lamazo, brZe-

no, stumarTmoyvare, gmiro aWarav da sruliad

saqarTvelos maspinZelo - b-no biZinav!!! es iyo

ulamazesi, usayvarlesi da umSvenieresi aqcia uZlieresi

gamosvlebiT - dawyebuli b-ni biZinaTi da Semdeg q-ni me-

deas, ZnelaZis, zaza papuaSvilisa da axalgazrda sulxan

Rlontis!!! yvela Taoba erTad!!! win - gamarjvebisken!!!

dampali araferi varga da miT umetes qveynis

mmarTveloba!!!!! 2 TveSi morCeba gaxrwnili da

Caoxrebuli wiTeli reJimi!

2001 wels, rom vambobdi giJia-Tqo, Cemze am-

bobdnen _ afrenso, ahaaaaa.... axla ki meubnebian:

ratom xeli ar mogvtyda, 5 rom movxazeTo ma-

Sino, magram ara uSavs codvis gamosyidvis dRe

1 oqtomberia!

mapatios Cemma Tbilisma, magram masStabiT ba-

Tumma yvela qalaqs ajobaaa!!! xalxo, dRes iyo

zeimi erTobis, siyvarulis, gamarjvebis da sa-

qarTvelos gabrwyinebis!!! guSindeli dRis mere

cota SeSinebuli viyavi, magram xalxi ufro darazma gu-

Sindelma dRem! skeptikosebo, SecvaleT Tqveni azrebi da

icodeT, gamarjvebamde 55 dRe darCa!!!!

guSin Cemi Svili 12 wlis gaxda da dabadebis

dRis tortze sanTlebis Caqrobisas survili

Caifiqra, da bolos gamogvityda ,,,,,iciT, ra Ca-

vifiqreo? is rom ivaniSvilma moigos arCevne-

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xalxSi kargad nacnobi wel-

kavis samedicino saxelwodebebi

_ lumbago, gava-welis mwvave

radikulitia. igi lokalurad

welis areSi gaCenili uecari,

mkveTri tkivilis Setevaa, ro-

melsac Tan welis kunTebis da-

Wimvac daerTvis.

welkavi umetesad sxeulis

erTdroulad win gadaxrisa da

gverdze Semotrialebisas vlin-

deba. sxeulis moxrili mdgoma-

reobidan erTdroulad gaSla

da misi gverdiT mitrialeba

xerxemlis qveda segmentisTvis

Zalian didi datvirTvaa, swo-

red amitom welkavis klasikuri

gamomwvevi situacia _ Tovlis

wmenda da gamogvaa.

lumbago gvxvdeba rogorc

axalgazrda, ise saSualo da

xandazmuli asakis adamianebSi,

Tumca yvelaze xSirad igi mainc

mamakacebis problemaa, romle-

bic, Cveulebriv, intensiuri fi-

zikuri Sromis Semdeg veRar

iSlebian welSi.

welkavs xSirad aprovoci-

rebs sxeulis gadaxureba, tanis

gaoflianeba da Semdeg misi

swrafi gaciveba.

Setevis dros adamiani mZime

mdgomareobaSi vardeba, gaSeSe-

buli rCeba iZulebiT pozaSi,

radgan ganZrevisa da moZraobis

nebismieri umniSvnelo mcdelo-

bac ki, daxveleba, dacemineba,

welis kunTebis spazmsa da tki-

vils kidev ufro aZlierebs.

welkavis Setevisas mwvave

tkivili ramdenime wuTidan ram-

denime saaTamde grZeldeba, nak-

leb intensiuri tkivilebi ki

ZiriTadad moZraobas ukavSir-

deba da saSualod 1-2 kviramde

grZeldeba.

xdeba isec, rom Setevidan

ramdenime xanSi tkivili Tavis-

Tavad qreba iseve swrafad, ro-

gorc gaCnda. am dros, rogorc

pacientebi aRniSnaven, iseTi

SegrZnebaa, `TiTqos welSi ra-

Raca Tavis adgilze Cadga~.

rogor moviqceT uecrad

gaCenili welkavisas

* mTavari wamali _ simSvi-

de da woliTi reJimia. nu Seec-

debiT tkivilis Tmenas da TviT-

neburad welSi gasworebas,

aucilebelia ramdenime dRis

manZilze woliTi reJimi;

* moZebneT poza, romelSic

tkivili odnav mainc giklebT

da zurgis muskulaturac mogi-

dundebaT. mizanSewonilia paci-

enti iwves zurgze, odnav aweu-

li da moRunuli fexebiT. amis-

Tvis mas muxlqveS baliSi unda

daudoT. aseTi poza xerxemals

msxvili kunTebis modunebis sa-

Sualebas aZlevs.

Tu pacientisTvis mucelze

wola metad komfortulia, Se-

uZlia asec dawves, zogjer mo-

xerxebulia gverdze wola;

* pacienti unda daawvinoT

magar da myar sawolze, farTo

xis naWerze an sulac iatakze

da weli Tbilad SeuxvioT. am

periodSi yvelaze Cveulebrivi

leibic ki orTopediulad iqce-

va, Tu mas magar, brtyel fi-

carze daafenT;

* rekomendebulia mtkivan

adgilze yinulis dadebac,

oRond mxolod Setevis pir-

vel wuTebSi;

* miiReT tkivildamayuCe-

beli (anTebissawinaaRmdego

arasteroiduli) medikamen-

ti, Tumca, konkretul Sem-

TxvevaSi, SesaZlo gverdiTi

movlenebis Tavidan asaci-

leblad, sasurvelia eqimis

konsultacia.

* TviTneburad nu dai-

zelT mtkivneul adgils ma-

lamoebiT, gansakuTrebiT

iseTebiT, romlebic kans

wvavs, radgan man SesaZloa,

tkivili kidev ufro gaaZlie-

ros.

dasaSvebia mtkivani adgilis

aryiT an spirtiT dazelva, ase-

ve iodis badeebic;

* xSirad, Sin aRmoCenili

pirveladi daxmarebis Semdeg,

roca analgetikebis moqmedebiT

tkivili qreba, pacientebi kli-

nikaSi misvlas an ar Cqaroben,

an saerTod aRar fiqroben, ris

gamoc procesi rTuldeba da

mkurnalobac gacilebiT xangrZ-

livdeba.

* bevri pacienti welSi ga-

iSleba Tu ara da tkivilic ga-

uvlis, fiqrobs, ukve ganikurna.

es mcdari Sexedulebaa. yvela-

feri welkavis pirveli Setevis

Semdeg iwyeba _ xerxemali gan-

sakuTrebul movlas iTxovs, am-

isTvis ki damatebiTi procedu-

rebis Catarebaa saWiro;

* aucilebelia nevrologis

an neiroqirurgis konsultacia

samedicino dawesebulebaSi, ra-

Ta mas aRmouCinon kvalificiu-

ri daxmareba, da rac mTavaria,

Cautardes Sesabamisi gamokvle-

vebi SesaZlo mizezis gamosark-

vevad.

rogor vicxovroT,

rom welkavma

arasdros Segvawuxos

1. Sin an samsaxurSi kompiu-

terTan muSaobisas, ecadeT spe-

cialurad Seqmnil saofise sk-

amze ijdeT, romlebic xerxe-

mals ramdenadme gantvirTvis

saSualebas aZlevs.

2. televizoris yurebisas

sjobs, upiratesoba naxevradm-

woliare tipis savarZels miani-

WoT;

3. mniSvnelovania avtomo-

bilSi mZRolis skamis sworad

SerCevac, radgan mZRolis

mouxerxebeli jdoma oste-

oqondrozis garTulebis

erT-erTi mTavari faqto-

ria;

4. xangrZlivi jdomiTi

samuSaos Sesrulebisas pe-

riodulad Sesveneba da

`gavla-gamovla~ unda Caa-

nacvloT;

5. xerxemalTan dakavSi-

rebuli problemebis mqone-

ebs vurCevT, naklebad

iaron maRalquslebiani

fexsacmelebiT;

6. nebismieri simZime un-

da aswioT nela, TandaTan,

tvirTis awevisas jer mux-

lebSi unda moixaroT da Semdeg

nela gaswordeT;

7. gaakontroleT wonac, ra-

dgan xerxemlis erT-erTi mteri

Warbi wonac aris;

9. xerxemlis mTavari mteri

ki umoZraobaa. amitom welkavis

ZiriTadi profilaqtika fizku-

lturaa, sasurvelia meti moZ-

raoba, curva.

10. sirbilis dros xSiria

xerxemlis diskebis mikrotrav-

matizacia, amitom sirbilisas

sifrTxile gmarTebT.

saTvale mudam karg mdgoma-

reobaSi rom iyos, aucilebe-

lia, maT gansazRvruli wesebis

mixedviT moepyroT:

1. saTvale unda gaikeToT da

moixsnaT orive xeliT, amasTan,

rogorc moxnisas, ise gakeTebi-

sas is sayure nawiliT unda ge-

WiroT;

2. nu SeecdebiT saTvalis

CarCo TviTneburad daapataraoT

an gaadidoT;

3. nurasodes dadebT mas

linzebiT qveviT, saTvale nebis-

mier zedapirze unda sayure na-

wiliT daidos an Semdeg Seina-

xoT specialur futlarSi;

4. mogexsenebaT, rom CarCo-

sa da linzebs Soris uwvrile-

si RriWoa, romelSic yovelT-

vis grovdeba WuWyi, amitom

saTvalis es nawili unda gaw-

mindoT kbilis ja-

grisiT an gare-

cxoT Tbil, sapni-

an wyalSi;

5. Tu Tqven

plastmasis linze-

biani saTvale

gaqvT, mniSvneloba

ar aqvs, is xazvis-

gan damcavlinzebi-

ania Tu Cveulebri-

vi, WuWyis mocile-

ba da gawmenda ma-

Tac sWirdeba.

plastmasis li-

nzebiani saTvale

rbili qsoviliT

unda gawmindoT,

manamde ki sasurve-

lia, isini Tbili

wyliT garecxoT.

Tu iseT adgilas

mogiwiaT yofnam,

sadac axlo-maxlo

wyali arsad aris, maSin ajo-

bebs, gawmendisgan Tavi Seika-

voT, ubralod, suli SeubereT

da mtveri ise moaSoreT;

6. saTvalis SerCevisas gan-

sakuTrebul yuradRebas saWi-

roebs misi erTi detail _ es

aris saTvalis cxvirze dasayr-

deni nawilis masala da moZra-

oba, radgan uxeSi sayrdenebi

Zlier awveba cxvirs.

sasurvelia, CarCo rbili,

silikonisgan damzadebuli, moZ-

ravi sayrdenebiT SearCioT.

yuradReba unda mieqces sa-

yuresac, is ar unda awvebodes

safeTqelsa da yuris ukana ar-

es.

7. CarCos gatexvisas, nu Se-

akeTebT mas TviTneburad, dis-

komfortisa da mxedvelobis

darRvevis Tavidan asacileblad

mas aucileblad unda daubru-

noT sawyisi mdgomareoba. amas

mxolod specialisti SeZlebs

kvalificiurad.

kompiuteris saTvale

kompiuteris specialuri

damcavi saTvalec iseve WuWyian-

deba da imtvereba rogorc sxva

danarCenebi.

kompiuteris saTvales odnav

gansxvavebulad unda mouaroT,

radgan maTi linzebi dafarulia

specialuri damcavi feniT, rom-

lis mocilebis SemTxvevaSic,

mas Tvalebis dacvis unari

ekargeba.

garda amisa, aseTi saTvalis

mflobelma, unda icodes maTi

xmarebis zusti wesebi da ag-

reTve eqspluataciis vada.

daviwyoT imiT, rom moxmare-

bis Semdeg kompiuteris saTva-

le aucileblad unda SeaxvioT

sufTa rbil qsovilSi da ise

SeinaxoT futlarSi. gamoyene-

bis win ki an imave qsoviliT

gawmindeT, an SeubereT. kompiu-

teris saTvale mxolod mtvris

mocilebis Semdeg unda gawmin-

doT.

gansakuTrebulia maTi ga-

recxvis wesic: Tu Cveulebrivi

saTvalis linzebi mSvenivrad

irecxeba Tbil sapnian wyalSi,

arafriT SeiZleba kompiuteris

saTvalis Tbil, miT ufro,

cxel wyalSi garecxva; rogorc

Tbili, ise cxe-

li wyali Zlier

azianebs saTva-

lis damcav fe-

nas, amitom aseTi

saTvalebi mxo-

lod da mxolod

civ wyalSi

irecxeba;

wesebis dac-

viT movlili

saTvale sakmaod

didxans Zlebs,

magram sakmari-

sia, raime mize-

ziT misi linze-

bi daziandes,

rom is kargavs

daniSnulebas da

misi gamoyeneba

araTu sasargeb-

lo, TvalisaTvis

sazianoc ki xde-

ba. amitom dazia-

nebuli saTvale

daunaneblad unda moiciloT

Tavidan da axali SeiZinoT.

wylis saTvale

Tu Tqven moyvaruli brZan-

debiT da sacurao auzebs ara-

regularulad stumrobT, 2-5-

jer TveSi, maSin TqvenTvis sav-

sebiT sakmarisia e.w. moyvarul-

Ta saTvale, romelic iseTi

formisa da agebulebisaa, rom

minimaluri komfortisTvis da

wyalSi yofnisas Tvalebis

`hermetiulobisTvis~ yovelT-

vis sakmarisia.

Tu auzs regularulad

stumrobT _ TveSi aTjer da

metjer, maSin saukeTeso arCeva-

ni iqneba savarjiSo saTvalebi.

saTvalis es jgufi maqsima-

luri komfortiTa da antifog-

sistemiT gamoirCeva. maT rbili

silikonis sadebebi aqvT, rom-

lebic adamians wyalSi, Tvalis

kaklis areSi mtkivneuli Segr-

Znebebis gareSe xangrZlivad

yofnis saSualebas aZlevs.

xSirad savarjiSo saTvale

aRWurvilia didi moculobis

polikarbonatuli linzebiT,

rac aqveiTebs kondensatis kon-

centraciisa da Sesabamisad,

linzis daorTqvlis xarisxsac.

arsebobs wylis saTvaleTa

kidev erTi nairsaxeoba _ sas-

tarto saTvale, romelsac pro-

fesionali sportsmenebi iyene-

ben da Cvelebriv isini sakmaod

Zviri Rirs.

gaxsovdeT:

kargad SerCeuli wylis

saTvale mWidrod unda ekvro-

des Tvalebis irgvliv saxis na-

wilebs; saTvalis rezina unda

ijdes kefaze da ara kiserze,

yurebze an maT ukan.

moamzada

zviad RonRaZem

w e l k a v i

rogor moveepyroT saTvalees

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23saerTo gazeTi#34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.

mmmmssssoooofffflllliiiioooo pppprrrreeeessssiiiissss mmmmiiiixxxxeeeeddddvvvviiiiTTTT

uaxloess periodSi ssaqarTvvelo

vver gaxdeba russeTiss megobari ssaxel-

mwifo. urTierTobiss normalur kala-

potSi warmarTvvac xangrZlivvi da

xandaxan autaneli processi iqneba.

imavvdroulad, Cvvenss qvveyynebss Soriss

ssxvvadassxvva doniss kavvSirurTierToba

ssabolood ar gawyyvvetila, russeTiss

bizznessi ki kvvlavv ganagrZobss ssaqarT-

vveloss ekonomikiss invvesstirebass. am

Temebzze gvvessaubreba dssT-iiss qvveyynebiss

kavvkassiiss ganyyofilebiss xelmZRvvaneli

feliqs stanevski, romelic

1996-22000 wlebSi russeTiss federa-

ciiss ssagangebo da ssruluflebiani

elCi iyyo ssaqarTvveloSi.

_ bolo wlebSi ruseTs saqarTve-

losTan diplomatiuri urTierToba

aRar aqvs, magram amis miuxedavad,

Cvens qveynebs Soris urTierToba

srulad ver gaqreboda. am xnis gan-

mavlobaSi, rogor viTardeboda ru-

sul-qqarTuli urTierToba arasamTav-

robo doneze?

_ 2008 wlis miwuruls, roca sa-

qarTvelom ruseTTan diplomatiuri

urTierToba gawyvita, qveynebs Soris

urTierToba Semcirda, magram sru-

lad ar gawyvetila. es urTierToba,

pirdapiri formiT ara, magram mos-

kovsa da TbilisSi Sveicariis sael-

Coebis meSveobiT samTavrobo donezec

SenarCunebulia. ruseTis federaciisa

da saqarTvelos interesebis seqciebi

muSaobs am saelCoebSi rogorc Tbi-

lisSi, aseve moskovSi. es aris rus

diplomatTa jgufi, romelic muSa-

obs saqarTveloSi da agreTve, ru-

seTSi momuSave qarTvel diplomatTa

jgufi.

marTalia, diplomatiuri urTier-

Toba gawyvetilia, magram sakmaod

xSirad, saerTaSoriso molaparakebeb-

Si monawile orive saxelmwifos war-

momadgenlebi urTierTobdnen da ama

Tu im sakiTxze msjelobdnen. es xde-

boda, magaliTad, msoflio savaWro

organizaciaSi ruseTis gawevrianebis

dros, Jenevis molaparakebebis pro-

cesSi, romelic samxreT kavkasiaSi

usafrTxoebis problemebs ganixi-

lavs.

garTulebuli pirobebis miuxeda-

vad, arasamTavrobo doneze intensiu-

ri kavSiri arsebobda. sxvanairad

warmoudgenelic iqneboda, miT ume-

tes, rom ruseTSi, sxvadasxva monace-

miT, 0,5-1,5 milioni saqarTvelodan

wamosuli adamiani cxovrobs, xolo

saqarTveloSi oTx milionze naklebi

mcxovrebi darCa. saqarTvelodan

emigracia ruseTSi Senelda, Tumca

srulad ar Sewyvetila.

moskovSi saqarTvelos politiku-

ri da sazogado moRvaweebis araerTi

Sexvedra gamarTula ruseTis saxel-

mwifos xelmZRvanelo-

basTan, saxelmwifo sa-

TaTbiros, arasamTavro-

bo organizaciebis war-

momadgenlebTan. 2008

wlis agvistos omTan

dakavSirebuli sirTu-

leebi savaWro-ekonomi-

kur urTierTobazec

aisaxa. miuxedavad amisa,

rusuli biznesi kvlav

agrZelebs saqarTveloSi

saqmianobasa da qarTuli

ekonomikis investirebas.

rusul bizness mniSvne-

lovani poziciebi ukavia

saqarTvelos energetika-

Si. laparakia ruseTis samTavrobo

kompania Èíòåð ÐÀÎ-sa da mis Svilo-

bil eleqtrogamanawilebel kompania

`Telasze~. qarTul ekonomikaSi fexi

aqvs mokidebuli Ëóêîéë-sa da

Âíåøíåòîðãáàíê-s, xolo `bilaini~

saqarTvelos mobiluri kavSirgabmu-

lobis erT-erTi didi kompaniaa. oq-

rosmompovebel mrewvelobaSi wamyva-

nia rusuli kompania `madneuli~,

GeoProMining, `kvarciti~. rusi me-

warmeebi sxva dargebSic arian war-

modgenili. bolo ori wlis

ganmavlobaSi moimata ruse-

Tidan saqarTvelos kuror-

tebze Casul turistTa na-

kadma, Tumca saqarTvelos

xelisufleba sisxlissamar-

Tlebrivad devnis im ruse-

Telebs, romlebsac afxa-

zeTsa da samxreT oseTSi

mogzaureba surT.

dabolos, umniSvnelova-

nesi faqti: saxelmwifo do-

neze arsebuli sirTuleebis

miuxedavad, ori qveynis mar-

Tlmadideblurma eklesiebma

kargi urTierToba Seinar-

Cunes.

_ rogor afasebT aseTi

kontaqtebis efeqtianobas? gaxdeba ki

igi ruseT-ssaqarTvelos momavali

oficialuri urTierTobebis safuZve-

li?

_ marTalia, faqtebi moviyvane,

magram ar SeiZleba davaskvnaT, rom

isini saqarTvelo-ruseTis saxelmwi-

foTaSoris urTierTobaze SesamCnev

da dadebiT gavlenas axdens. saqarT-

velos xelisuflebam gaaaqtiura ru-

seTisadmi mtruli saqmianoba TiTqmis

yvela saerTaSoriso forumsa da or-

ganizaciaSi; es gansakuTrebiT Crdi-

loeT kavkasiasTan dakavSirebul sa-

kiTxebs exeba. arasamTavrobo doneze

arsebuli kontaqtebi, veWvob, uaxlo-

es momavalSi or saxelmwifos Soris

urTierTobis safuZveli gaxdes.

_ ra gavlenas axdens ruseTSi ar-

sebuli didi qarTuli diaspora ru-

seT-ssaqarTvelos urTierTobis ganvi-

Tarebaze?

_ qarTul diasporas ruseTis

ekonomikis, mecnierebisa da kultu-

ris ganviTarebaSi Tavisi wvlili

Seaqvs. ruseTSi arsebuli qarTuli

organizaciebi or qveyanas Soris me-

gobruli urTierTobis ganviTarebiT

arian dainteresebuli, magram es yve-

laferi ruseTis mimarT saqarTvelos

politikaze arsebiT gavlenas ver ax-

dens.

_ ra faqtorebma SeiZleba moaxdi-

nos keTilismyofeli gavlena rusul-

qarTuli urTierTobis aRdgenasa da

ganmtkicebaze da piriqiT _ ra uS-

lis xels am process?

_ jer CamovTvaloT dadebiTi faq-

torebi. es aris orsaukunovani isto-

ria, romelmac daaaxloa ori saxel-

mwifo. arsebobs utyuari mocemulo-

ba _ erTmaneTis pativiscema, miuxeda-

vad imisa, rac bolo xans moxda. se-

riozuli faqtorebia _ marTlmadi-

debloba, kulturaTa urTierTgavle-

na, rac erTian kulturul da suli-

er faseulobebs ganapirobebs, piradi

urTierTobebis simtkice, ruseTis

saqmiani wreebis daintereseba saqarT-

veloTi da udidesi rusuli bazari

qarTuli produqciis gasasaReblad.

axla imis Sesaxeb, ra muSaobs

Cven winaaRmdeg. es aris amerikis Se-

erTebuli Statebisa da misi mokavSi-

reebis aqtiuroba samxreT kavkasiidan

ruseTis gansadevnad, maTi daintere-

seba regionSi saqarTvelos geostra-

tegiuli mdebareobiT. aranaklebi

faqtoria qarTuli nacionalizmi,

romlis ideologiiTac, ruseTi yve-

laze arakeTilmosurne qveyanaa da

misgan maqsimaluri daSorebaa auci-

lebeli.

nacionalizmiT damuxtuli qarTu-

li politikuri elita dasavleTTan

daaxloebasa da natoSi, evrokavSirsa

da nebismier dasavlur struqturaSi

saqarTvelos rac SeiZleba swrafad

Sesvlas eswrafvis. uaryofiT gavle-

nas axdens cxovrebis dabali done,

gansakuTrebulad emociuri mosaxle-

obis umuSevroba, rac xelisuflebas

masobrivi Segnebis, maT Soris, ruse-

Tis mimarT manipulirebis saSualebas

aZlevs.

da bolos _ afxazeTTan da samx-

reT oseTTan konfliqti, rac saqar-

Tvelos sagareopolitikur orienta-

ciaSi radikaluri cvlilebis mizezi

ar gamxdara. 1989 wels, jer kidev

1992-1993 afxazeTis wlebis konf-

liqtamde, saqarTveloSi arsebuli

yvela partia Tavis programaSi ruse-

Tisgan damoukideblobas iTxovda. am

moTxovnas Tan axlda pretenziaTa

grZelze grZeli nusxa. da kidev _

arsebobda aSkara mtruli damokide-

buleba ruseTis mimarT. amis Sedegad

unda ganvixiloT amomrCevelTa xmebi-

sa umravlesobiT zviad gamsaxurdias

xelisuflebaSi mosvla, romelic

ruseTis aSkara mowinaaRmdege iyo.

_ Cven xelT arsebuli informaci-

iT, saqarTvelos politikosebs, maT

Soris opoziciis warmomadgenlebs

ar gaaCniaT prorusuli ganwyobile-

bebi. arseboben ki maT Soris iseTebi,

romlebsac Cvens qveynebs Soris

srulfasovani urTierTobis aRdgena

surT da mzad arian dialogisTvis?

_ prorusulad ganwyobili qarT-

veli politikosebi an emigraciaSi

arian, an cixeSi sxedan. isini jer ki-

dev SevardnaZem gandevna politikuri

scenidan. ruseTTan urTierToba

bevrs unda undodes. saakaSvilis mom-

xreebic ar iqnebodnen ru-

seTTan dialogis winaaRmde-

gi: ekonomikuri da socialu-

ri TvalsazrisiT, es yvela-

ze metad saqarTvelos sWir-

deba da es vlindeba rusuli

biznesis mimarT damokidebu-

lebaSi, agreTve ruseTisken

im adamianebis masobrivi emig-

raciiT, visi dasaqmebac sa-

qarTvelos xelisuflebas ar

SeuZlia. sakiTxis umTavresi

arsi SemdegSia: es aris sa-

qarTvelos politelitis

principuli arCevani _ Crdi-

loeli mtruli mezoblis _

ruseTisgan distancireba da-

savleTis sasargeblod.

Tuki saqarTvelos xelisufleba-

Si axali Zalebi movlen, ruseTis mi-

marT arsebuli damokidebulebis ko-

reqtireba SesaZlebeli iqneba. siRr-

miseuli cvlilebebis imedi ki nu

gveqneba. CamoTvlili dadebiTi faq-

torebi politikur doneze ar vlin-

deba da politikuradac ar aris ga-

moxatuli. isini bevrad ufro sus-

tia, vidre uaryofiTi gavlenis gare-

moebebi.

uaxloes momavalSi saqarTvelo

ruseTis megobari qveyana ver gaxdeba.

urTierTobis normalur kalapotSi

warmarTvac xangrZlivi da mtkivneu-

li procesi iqneba.

rosbalt.rumoamzada g. WavWavaZem.

ruseTi saqarTvelos ekonomikis wamyvandargebSi prioritetul poziciebzea

qveynebs Soris urTierTobis aRdgenis

perspeqtiva kvlavac ar arsebobs

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24 saerTo gazeTi #34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.

...1123 wlis 20 agvistoa. daviT

aRmaSenebeli, romelsac ukve dab-

runebuli aqvs mTeli qvemo qarT-

li, javaxeTi, kola, karnifori da

basiani, boJanoSi movida. aq mas

daxvdnen somxeTidan mosuli `mwig-

nobarni anelTa (aniselTa _ g.q.)

TavadTani da moaxsenes mocema qa-

laqisa da cixeTa boJanos wyaroTa

zeda mdgomsa~. es imas niSnavs, rom

gawamebuli somxebi daviTs Txovd-

nen, oRond ki Turq-selCukebi gag-

viyare qveynidan da mzad varT ani-

si da danarCeni somxeTi Tqven Se-

mogavedroTo.

ratom unda aerCiaT Sesaxved-

rad es adgili? SesaZloa, imitom,

rom aq _ saqarTvelos teritoria-

ze, damatebiTi sabaJo iyo, aseT

punqtSi ki daviTisgan waxalisebu-

li somexi vaWrebis mcire dasaxle-

bis arseboba gamoricxuli ar iqne-

boda. amdenad, anisidan mosul el-

Cebs erTgvar Sinaur garemoSi unda

egrZnoT Tavi.

boJanos wyaroebis adgilsamyo-

feli profesor devi berZeniSvi-

lisgan vicodiT da mis misagnebad

boJanoeli somxebis daxmareba ar

dagvWirvebia. soflidan samxreT-aR-

mosavleTiT, mTaze raRac nageboba

ikiTxeba da iqiT miveSurebiT. Sua

gzaze kidev erT, koSkis msgavs nan-

grevs vxedavT Soridan da amitom

Tavdapirvelad mis sanaxavad vCer-

debiT. zed rom wavadeqiT, daqceu-

li eklesiis naSTi _ misi aRmosav-

leTis kedeli aRmoCnda. eklesia

sakmaod mozrdili, Tlili qviT na-

gebi Senoba yofila da axla, ro-

gorc xuroTmoZRvruli Zegli, ga-

nadgurebulia. am adgils leknari

hqvia da adre, albaT sofelic ar-

sebobda. es toponimi eTnos leke-

bisgan ki ar aris nawarmoebi, ara-

med xis erT-erTi jiSisgan _ le-

kisgan.

... gzas ganvagrZobT da maRla

viwevT. gamoCnda ori mcire tba,

romelic sinamdvileSi ori datbo-

rili wyaroa. swored es aris bo-

Janos wyaroebi. mTis Txemze arse-

buli nageboba aqedan Sors aRaraa.

rogorc irkveva, daviT aRmaSe-

neblis karvebis naalagarze XII sa-

ukuneSi sakmaod mozrdili saydari

augiaT, romelic, erTi mcire war-

weris Tanaxmad, ioane naTlismcem-

lis saxelobisa yofila. naeklesi-

aris xilva aRSfoTebasa da gaogne-

bas iwvevs.

nafuZaris fragmentebidan dgin-

deba, rom eklesias Sverili absidi

da sammxrivi minaSenebi hqonia. misi

saerTo zoma 14,5X13,5 metri yofi-

la da arc CuqurTmebi hklebia.

boJanos da, albaT sxva mimdeba-

re somxuri soflebis mosaxleobas

taZari ise `aRudgenia~, rom axla

sayaraulos ufro hgavs. salocavad

datovebulia mxolod sakurTxev-

lis absidi, romelic dasavleTidan

Cveulebrivi kar-fanjriani kedliT

dauxuravT. am izolirebul, gada-

xurul nawilSi ramdenime Zveli

samkauliani qva CamourigebiaT. ek-

lesiis danarCeni nawili (centra-

luri darbazis mTeli are). Ria da-

utovebiaT 2-3 metris simaRlis

kedlebis doneze da somxur yaida-

ze salocavis winkarad (mcire

ezod) uqceviaT. kedlebis kuTxeeb-

Si Zveli saflavis qvis verZebia

Semodgmuli. erTi sityviT, Cvens

winaSea gaugebari epoqis gaugebari

nageboba, romelsac xuroTmoZRvre-

basTan aranairi kavSiri ar aqvs.

amas aborigeni qarTveli an Tundac

Zvelad mkvidri somexi arafriT ar

izamda. qarTvelTa da somexTa sau-

kunovani mezoblobisa da Tanadgo-

mis es wminda alagi, rogorc Cans,

XIX saukuneSi aq dasaxlebuli

mcireazieli armenebisTvis Zvirad

ar fasobs.

... vdgavar naeklesiarTan da

vixseneb:

1123 wlis 23 agvistos aq, bo-

JanoSi daviT mefis daZaxilze di-

di laSqari Seikriba: `mesamesa dRe-

sa samoci aTasi mxedari win udga

(daviTs _ g.q.). waremarTa da vi-

Tarca miiwia, mesame dResa aiRo qa-

laqi anisi da cixeni misni uWirve-

lad da sofelni da qveyanani mimd-

gomi anisisani~. amis mere anisis

did taZarSi `berZenTa asulsa, de-

dufal katronites... mefeman samg-

zis saflavsa CasZaxa _ gixaroden

Sen, wmidao dedofalo, rameTu ix-

sna RmerTman saydari Seni usjulo-

Ta xelTagan!~

... boJanoSi vbrundebiT da bara-

leTiswylis marcxena sanapiros mo-

vuyvebiT daRma. kaWioSi SevdivarT.

aq mosaxle somxebs misTvis gajo

daurqmeviaT. .patara sofelSi qar-

TvelTa saxlobis droidan mxolod

IX-X saukuneebis eklesia dgas. igi

XI saukuneSi ganuaxlebiaT da

Tlili qvis perangiT SeumosavT.

Zveli naSenebidan CrdiloeTis

fleTili qvis kedelia moRweuli.

saydars kamarebi morRveuli aqvs.

aRmosavleTisa da dasavleTis sar-

kmlebis mosarTav Tasmebs Tu ar mi-

viRebT mxedvelobaSi, kedlebi

usamkauloa. usiamo gancdas iwvevs

darbazSi, CrdiloeT kedelTan aR-

marTul svetze Semodebuli axal-

Sewiruli cxvris Tavi. umRvdlod,

rwmenaSelaxul mosaxleobas taZa-

ri lamis warmarTul sazoravad ga-

uxdia.

kaWios samxreTiT nasoflari

sirgvaa, sadac XVI saukunis bo-

los, `gurjistanis vilaieTis didi

davTris~ Tanaxmad, oTxi qarTuli

ojaxi cxovrobda, erT cida so-

fels, Turme, 2 wisqvili hqonia.

Cveni megzuri, koTelieli emzar

xuciSvili gveubneba: ufrosebisgan

gamigia, rom tyian javaxeTSi sauke-

Teso xorbals swored aq iwevdnen

da sakmaod kargad cxovrobdnen.

sirgvis nasaxlaris kvali ax-

lac SeiZleba gavarkvioT barale-

Tiswylis napirze, iq, sadac koxta

eklesia dgas. igi sigrZeSi 5 met-

ria, siganeSi ki sul raRac 4,3

metri. Tu imasac gaviTvaliswinebT,

rom kedlebis sisqe TiTqmis 1 met-

ria, maSin iolad mivxvdebiT, Sig-

niT ra siviwovea. saydari nagebia

uxeSad damuSavebuli kldis lode-

biT, romelTac konstruqciul na-

wilebSi granitis Tlili kvadrebi

enacvleba, aqvs ori _ samxreTisa

da aRmosavleTis sarkmeli, magram

es ukanaskneli sanaxevrod amouqo-

lavT somxebs, romelTac ganaTebu-

li sakurTxeveli ar uyvarT. maT

mierve Zalian amaRlebulia sakur-

Txevlis iatakis done, xolo iqve

feradi WinWebi _ warmarTuli sa-

kadrisebia mibneuli. yvelaze gul-

satkeni is aris, rom VII-VIII sau-

kuneebis am Zegls

samxreTis fasadi

aqvs xelyofili. na-

lisebri moyvanilo-

bis karis lunetis

siRrmeSi Casmuli

e.w. bolonuri jvris

qveviT amotexili da

waSlilia warwera,

romelic saintereso

istoriuli sabuTi

unda yofiliyo.

taZridan dasav-

leTiT, daaxloebiT

300 metrSi, mcire

axalnageb galavanSi

aRmarTulia stela,

romelic, SesaZloa,

yvelze maRalic kia

mTel javaxeTSi. igi

erTiani qvisganaa ga-

mokveTili. qvajvarTan erTi somxu-

ri ojaxia amosuli. cxvris xorci,

basturma, tkbileuli da wiTeli

Rvino amoutaniaT. patara biWs

mxarze mtredi azis, Camoiyvans da

gaafrens xolme. ifrens mtredi,

ifrens da isev mxarze daajdeba

biWs. Cans kargad hyavs gawvrTnili.

_ aq amaRleba dRes viciT xol-

me Sekreba, _ ambobs Cveni megzuri

emzar xuciSvili, _ qarTvelebTan

erTad somxebic modian, caSi mtre-

debs vuSvebT. axla ver gamigia, ra

xdeba. waval gavigeb.

aq ucvlelad unda movitano is

legenda, romelic sirgvis amaRle-

bis jvarTan dakavSirebiT krebul

`javaxeTSia~ Setanili: `sveti 7

Zma javaxs walkaSi mouparavs da

malulad javaxeTSi wamouRia. sir-

gvis mindorze Zmebs dausveniaT da

dauZiniaT. roca gauRviZiaT, sveti

adgilidan veRar dauZravT. uTq-

vamT, albaT daRlilebi varT da

qvis aweva ver SevZeliTo, isev da-

viZinoT da mere waviRoTo. ZilSi

maT angelozi gamocxadebiaT, ro-

melsac uTqvams _ svetis bina aq

aris da aqve aRmarTeTo. Zmebi asec

moqceulan. SemdgomSi es sveti qa-

riSxals wauqcevia, avazakebs oq-

ros jvari mouparavT, rasac mohyo-

lia didi gvalva. saqoneli da mo-

savali iRupeboda. 3 weliwadi so-

feli SimSiliT wydeboda. erT mo-

saxles sizmriT Seutyvia, saqmes

mxolod svetis wamoyeneba da dad-

gma uSveliso. qvis aRsamarTad mTe-

li kuTxe daZrula, mogrovili fu-

liT 3 xari uyidiaT da dauklavT.

imave dRes kokispiruli wvima mo-

sula da mosavalic didi miuRiaT.

amitomac amaRlebas mlocvelebi am

jvars SesTxoven Wirnaxulis karg

mosavals, ojaxisa da saqonlis gam-

ravlebas~. aris mosazreba, rom na-

soflaris saxelwodeba `sirgva~

ufro Zvel `sirqvas~ Caenacvla,

romelic ori sityvis kompozitia:

siri (Citi) da qva. toponimis amg-

vari axsna, aRwerili tradiciidan

gamomdinare (qvis svetTan mtrede-

bis afrena), savsebiT realuria.

... amasobaSi emzari brundeba da

momlocvel somexTa naTqvams gvac-

nobs _ amaRlebas aq ar viyaviT da

gvaswavles sulTmofenobis meore

dRes Tu aafrenT mtredebs, isic

kargi iqnebao.

gela qoqiaSviliavtoris fotoebi

mogzauroba samSobloSitye-jjaavaaxeTSi mogzaaurobaa isev Crdilo-

eTidaan, taabaawyuris tbis mimdebaare terito-

riidaan undaa daaviwyoT, oRond aamjeraad baa-

raaleTiswylis maarcxenaa saanaapiros Caamovy-

veT. aaq pirveli sofeliaa boJaano. toponim

boJaanos waarmomaavlobaa daauzustebeliaa. igi

aan saabaaJo-ggaamSvebi punqtisgaan undaa momdinaa-

reobdes, aan cxvris daaumuSaavebeli tyaavisgaan _ buJuJidaan.

rodis daaaarsdaa es sofeli, daaudgeneliaa, saaistorio wyaaro-

ebiT ki, (`̀cxovrebaa mefeT-mmefisaa daaviTisi~) pirvelaad XII

saaukunidaan daasturdebaa.

tye-javaxeTi

amaRlebis mtredebi

sirgvis eklesia, stela da

stelis bazisi

kaWios eklesia da misi

erT-erTi imposti

boJanos gadakeTebuli eklesia da leknaris eklesiis SemorCenili fragmenti

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25saerTo gazeTi#34 (218), 8-14.VIII, 2012 w.

msofliom qarTvel

xalxs SeverdnaZe arCia!

aqve, aucileblad unda waga-

kiTxoT Cems mier dawerili weri-

li, romelic daibeWda Cemive re-

daqtorobiT gamomaval gazeTSi,

`saqarTvelos samreklo~-Si

(#60, 1998 w.). werilis saTau-

ria `msofliom qarTvel xalxs

SevardnaZe arCia~.

`...msofliom qarTveli xalxi

aigdo abuCad da ukve didi xania

ayenebs Seuracxyofas.

msofliom qarTvel xalxs Se-

vardnaZe arCia!

SevardnaZe camde ahyavs msof-

lios!

SevardnaZes kokispirulad

asaCuqreben aTasgvari saxelobis

saerTaSoriso premiebiT!

SevardnaZes asaxeleben upirve-

les demokratad dedamiwaze!

SevardnaZe, Turme ise, rom

qarTvel xalxs ar scodnia, udi-

desi, msoflio rangis politiko-

si yofila!

Turme _ msofliom icis!

qarTvel xalxs ki Tvalis Ci-

ni dagvkargvia da Cvens Tvalwin

`msoflios gadarCenisaTvis~ xe-

lebdakapiwebuli SevardnaZe ver

amogvicvnia!

rogorc ukve viciT _ msof-

lio ironiiT dagvcqeris qarTvel

xalxs da SevardnaZis pirovnebis

Cvens cxvirwin trialiT gveubne-

ba:

-hei, Tqven, velurno, erTader-

Ti kaci gyavT da Tqveni cnobiere-

ba ar gyofniT mis Sesacnobad!

diax!

msoflios imperiebi ukve didi

xania udides Seuracxyofas gvaye-

neben qarTvelobas!

mainc, ra ubedurebaa Cvens

Tavs?

ratom amogviCemes da gagvime-

tes?

viTom Cvenze kargad icnoben

SevardnaZes?

ara da ara! aq raRac sxva am-

bavia!

amgvari eWvis safuZvels gvaZ-

levs Cveni uaxloesi warsuli!

SevardnaZes usasrulod aji-

ldoeben leninur-komkavSiruli

kompartiuli premiebiT, gardamava-

li droSebiT, gzas ukvalavdnen

politbiurosaken, bolos ki, qar-

TvelTa gasaocrad, daniSnes sab-

WoTa kavSiris sagareo saqmeTa mi-

nistrad.

ra moxda maSin, batonebo?

riTi, ra codniT, ra ganaTle-

biT, ra erudiciiT, ra gvariSvi-

lobiT moxibla SevardnaZem sab-

WoeTi da msoflios danarCeni im-

periebi, rom amxela qveynis saga-

reo saqmeebi miandes?

vinmes sjera, rom sabWoTa kav-

SirSi SevardnaZeze niWieri, Rir-

seuli pirovneba ar moiZebna da

ver gamoinaxa?

roca amgvar kiTxvebs gaigeb,

SeiZleba kacs `xarxari agifeTq-

des~!

rogor mogwonT batonebo, am-

gvari gamoTqma: `xarxaris afeTqe-

ba?~

iqneb me damabraloT?

ara, es Cemi gamonagoni ar

aris! es gaxlavT SevardnaZis mig-

neba, romelic gaxmianda israel-

Si, sadac mas demokratiis umaR-

lesi jildoTi daumSvenes mkerdi.

israelSi ganacxades, rom Se-

vardnaZem saqarTveloSi demokra-

tia daamyarao!

xmamaRla gaiZaxian, SevardnaZe

msoflio rangis politikosia,!

gaxleCili qveynebi SeaerTa, omebi

Sewyvita... ufro metic _ igi ko-

munist-disidenti iyo. Turme, fa-

rulad Seipara jer kompartiis

rigebSi, mere politbiuroSi, ra-

Ta sabWoTa kavSiri daemxo!

es ambavi Rimils iwvevs, si-

yalbea, tyuilia, radgan balRmac

icis _ sabWoTa kavSiris sagareo

saqmeTa ministri mudam warmoad-

genda haerSi gadamfren Cits, ro-

melic kremlis neba-survilze mi-

mofrenda da sakmarisi iyo, raime

`disidenturi~ ram ganezraxa, rom

Surduls styorcnidnen da Camo-

agdebdnen...

sakiTxavia mxolod erTi _

rodis gaimeteben Tavad Sevardna-

Zes? magram, misi gameteba rom

surdeT, msoflios e.w. wamyvani

imperiebi mas amden qeba-didebas ar

Seasxamdnen. maSasadame _ kidev

sWirdebaT da Cvens, qarTvelTa

Tavze da aqedan gamomdinare,

mTels kavkasiaSi dampyrobTa geg-

ma-Ta momavali ganxorcieleba da-

iwyeba~.

`kidev ras umzadeben

saqarTvelos~?

sxvaTa Soris, amave gazeTis

(`saqarTvelos samreklo~ #60,

1998 w.), pirvel gverdze gamog-

viqveynebia zviad gamsaxurdias

momcro werili saTauriT `kidev

ras umzadeben saqarTvelos~ (da-

werilia 1993 wlis 19 ivniss):

`saqarTvelos istoria savsea

sxvaTa qveynebisTvis Tavdadebuli

da sakuTari qveynebis damaqcevari

ianiCarebiT da mamluqebiT, erT-

erTi aseTia SevardnaZe, romelmac

saqarTvelos ngrevisa da ubedu-

rebis meti araferi moutana. Cem-

Tvis gasagebia germaniis mTavrobis

damokidebuleba misadmi. igi da

gorbaCovi kargad gamoiyenes sak-

uTari politikuri miznebisTvis,

magram moaruli azri imis Sesaxeb,

rom man daamTavra `civi omi~ da

gaaerTiana germania, daaxloebiT

imas hgavs, vinmem marSal keitels

rom miaweros meore msoflio

omis damTavreba imis gamo, rom man

kapitulaciaze moawera xeli.

gorbaCovisa da SevardnaZis kapi-

tulacia `civ omSi~ maTi keTili

nebis Sedegi ki ar iyo, aramed ma-

Ti damarcxebisa... dasavleTis po-

litologiaSi arsebobs azri, rom

kapitulaciis sanacvlod dasav-

leTis xelisufalni gorbaCovsa

da SevardnaZes mudmiv politikur

mxardaWeras dahpirdnen yofili

sabWoTa kavSiris qveynebSi Zala-

uflebis SenarCunebaSi. amgvar xe-

lisufalTa Soris arian maaxst-

rixtis mesveurebi, romelnic

erovnul saxelmwifoTa suvereni-

tetis ganadgurebas da `erTiani

evropis~ Seqmnas isaxaven miznad.

swored isini amyareben imeds Se-

vardnaZeze da yovelnairad cdi-

loben mis gadarCenas~.

samxedro gadatrialebiT gao-

cebuli, SeZruli, da

emigraciaSi myofi zviad

gamsaxurdia Tavis Ria

werilSi 1992 wlis 5

Tebervals (daibeWda

`svobodnaia gazeta~-Si

#12, 1996 w.) ruseTis

federaciis prezidents

boris elcins swerda:

`pativcemulo ba-

tono prezidento!

ukve meore Tvea,

rac SeiaraRebulma `o-

poziciam~ saqarTvelo-

Si amierkavkasiis sam-

xedro olqis mxarda-

WeriT saomari moqmede-

bebi daiwyo xalxis mi-

er arCeuli kanonieri

xelisuflebis winaaRm-

deg. iRvreba sisxli.

qveyana gapartaxebis pi-

ras dgas, anarqiam dai-

sadgura.

sabrZolo moqmedebebis dawye-

bamde `opozicia~ mkacrad akriti-

kebda saqarTvelos oficialuri

xelisuflebis politikas, viTom-

dac dedmokratiis uqonlobis ga-

mo, amav dros ki gamalebiT iar-

aRdeboda. TandaTan naTeli xdebo-

da, rom sakuTari ZalebiT, amier-

kavkasiis samxedro olqis uSua-

lo daxmarebis gareSe igi ver mo-

axerxebda im teqnikisa da Seiara-

Rebis SeZenas, romelic mas amJa-

mad gaaCnia... `opozicia~ pirdapir

acxadebs, rom yovelives prezi-

dent elcinis brZanebiT, mas ami-

erkavkasiis samxedro olqi awv-

dis... SesaZloa, vinme Segvepasu-

xos, rom amgvari mtkiceba doku-

mentur dasabuTebas moiTxovs, mag-

ram, meores mxriv, yvela gakvirve-

bulia oficialuri ruseTis du-

miliT saqarTveloSi mimdinare am-

bebTan dakavSirebiT. agreTve ru-

seTis masobrivi informaciis sa-

Sualebebi, pirvel rigSi, televi-

zia saqarTveloSi momxdar movle-

nebze saubrisas dums, rom qveyana-

Si TviTnebobs danaSaulebrivi

samxedro xunta da safuZveli ey-

reba saSinel totalitarul re-

Jims, romlis Sedareba mxolod

germanul faSizmTan an kampuCiaSi

pol potas reJimTan Tu SeiZleba.

saqarTveloSi dRes arsebuli re-

Jimi Rvris udanaSaulo adamianTa

sisxls, xvrets mSvidobian mitin-

gebs da demonstraciebs, sakuTari

azris Tavisufali gamoxatvisaT-

vis apatimrebs asobiT adamians. ama

wlis 2 Tebervals, xuntis krimi-

nalebma demonstraciis dros 20

adamiani mokles da 200-mde daW-

res. nuTu demokratiuli ruseTi

ver amCnevs yovelive amas?.. du-

mili niSnavs, rom usityvod amar-

TlebT terors, adamianis ufleba-

Ta fexqveS gaTelvas, danaSau-

lebriv elementTa TareSs, rom-

lebic oficialuri xelisufle-

bis saxeliT gamodian.

aRsaniSnavia isic, rom ruse-

Tis televizia, saqarTvelos mov-

lenebis gaSuqebisas, aRSfoTe-

buli mosaxleobis mravalaTasian

mitingebs `zviadistebis mitin-

gebs~ uwodebs, xolo kanonieri

qurdis j. ioselianis kriminalur

bandebs, romelnic mSvidobian mi-

tingebs xvreten, `samTavrobo ja-

rebis~ da `samarTaldamcveli or-

ganoebis~ saxelwodebiT moixseni-

ebs.

saqarTvelos hyavs kanonieri

prezidenti, parlamenti da mTav-

roba, romelTanac yovelTvis

hqonda oficialuri urTierToba

ruseTis federaciuli respubli-

kis warmomadgenlebs. gavixsenoT,

Tundac Cveni Sexvedra yazbegSi

gasuli wlis martSi, roca Cvens

mier xelmoweril iqna oqmi saqar-

Tvelosa da ruseTs Soris xel-

Sekrulebis dadebis Taobaze. ra

Seicvala mas Semdeg? ram gaiZu-

laT mtruli pozicia dageWiraT

xalxis mier arCeuli xelisufle-

bis mimarT da usityvod gecnoT

sisxlis samarTlis damnaSaveTa

xunta? rogorc sCans, Tqvens mier

saqarTvelos winaaRmdeg mimarTu-

li amgvari zomebi gamowveulia

imiT, rom ruseTma ar miiRo Cven-

gan dauyovnebeli pasuxi xelSek-

rulebis xelmowerisa saqarTve-

los dsT-Si Sesvlis Taobaze. sa-

qarTvelos prezidentis gamoucxa-

debloba alma-aTis saxelmwifo

meTaurTa Sexvedraze 1991 wlis

dekemberSi aixsneba imiT, rom 22

dekembers e.w. opoziciis Seiara-

Rebulma bandebma ieriSi miitanes

saqarTvelos parlamentis Senoba-

ze.

amrigad, Tu e.w. opoziciis

mtkiceba, saqarTveloSi ganxorci-

elebul putCSi ruseTis monawi-

leobis Sesaxeb, usafuZvloa, mo-

giwodebT-Tqven, batono preziden-

to, movuwodeb ruseTis parlamen-

tsa da mTavrobas, gamoxatoT

Tqveni principuli pozicia, yve-

lafris mimarT, rac saqarTvelo-

Si xdeba. mogiwodebT, saTanado

Sefaseba misceT kriminaluri sam-

xedro xuntis sisxlian qmedebebs,

mouwodoT gaeros, msoflios

xalxebsa da mTavrobebs, gadaarCi-

nos qarTveli xalxi im katast-

rofisagan, romelic mas emuqreba

samxedro gadatrialebis, konsti-

tuciuri wyobis ganadgurebisa da

sisxliani totalitaruli reJi-

mis damyarebis Sedegad. mxolod

amiT SegiZliaT saqmiT daamtki-

coT, rom ruseTi marTlac demok-

ratiuli qveyanaa.

prezidentebi modian da midi-

an. xanmoklea samxedro xuntebis

arsebobis Jamic, vinaidan say-

ovelTao wyevla-krulvas imsaxu-

reben. xalxTa Soris keTili da-

mokidebuleba ki mxolod urT-

ierTdaxmarebas emyareba gansacde-

lisa da Znelbedobis Jams.

amgvarad aris sasurveli, war-

movidginoT Cveni xalxebis momava-

li~.

(gagrZeleba Semdeg nomerSi)

P.S. 2012 wlis 5 agvistos,

saRamos 9 saaTze `rusTavi-22~-mma

mayurebeli sagangebod gaafrTxi-

la, rom sainformacio gadacemis

damTavrebisTanave naCvenebi iqnebo-

da dokumenturi filmi... avtori

gaxlavT Toma CageliSvili da mi-

si `naRvawi~, raRa Tqma unda, Se-

exeboda ruseTis mier saqarTve-

loSi ganxorcielebul teroris-

tul aqtebs da 1991-11992 wlebis

samxedro gadatrialebebs!

Toma CageliSvils uxilavi xe-

li ukve karga xania exmareba da

uxvadac afinansebs usasrulod

`Seqmnas~ da samzeoze gamoitanos

1991-11992 wlebSi momxdari sam-

xedro gadatrialebisadmi miZRvni-

li masala!

mizani mudam erTi da igivea:

pirdapir Tu iribad, momxdarSi

daadanaSaulos zviad gamsaxurdi-

as xelisufleba da, rac umTavre-

sia, yovelgvari pasuxismgebloba

aacilos SevardnaZes.

aSkaraa, rom Toma CageliSvi-

li da misi megobari istorikose-

bi cdiloben daamaxinjon saqarT-

velos istoria da yovelgvari pa-

suxismgebloba aacilon ara mxo-

lod SevardnaZes, aramed evroame-

rikelTa specsamsaxurebsac.

Zvirfaso mkiTxvelo, `saerTo

gazeTSi~ Tqven ukve kiTxulobT

dokumentur Txzulebas `mware

gakveTilebi _ evroamerika, ruse-

Ti da saqarTvelo~. ra Tqma unda,

TiToeul Tqvengans gaqvT SesaZ-

lebloba SeadaroT mocemuli faq-

tebi imas, rasac Toma CageliSvi-

li gvTavazobs!

saqme Cveni samSoblos uaxlo-

es istorias exeba! aq, piruTvne-

loba da didi Rirsebaa saWiro

rommomaval Taobas marTali sity-

va uTxra da WeSmariti simarTle

dautovo!

mware gakveTilebievroamerika, ruseTi da saqarTvelo

ciklidan: omi bneleTTan _ ricxvi misi 666

jemal davlianiZe

gagrZeleba. dasawyisi ix.

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astrologiuri

prognozi

verZi _ es kvira Tqve-

nTvis SedarebiT SfoTi-

ani da saintereso iqneba.

emociebi cota moTokeT, Torem

garSemo myofebTan SeiZleba

urTierToba gagirTuldeT.

kuro _ mosalodnelia

romantikuli Sexve-

drebi, SeiZleba raime

Seicvalos Tqvens partniorTan

urTierTobaSi. Tu arsebuli

garigebebi sxvadasxva mizezebis

gamo ar iZleoda dadebiT efe-

qts, isini am kviraSi sasike-

Tod dasruldeba.

tyupebi _ darwmune-

buli iyaviT, rom am kvi-

raSi yvela sakiTxSi wa-

rmatebis didi Sansi gaqvT. ig-

rZnobT SemoqmedebiT da aqti-

uri energiis mozRvavebas.

kirCxibi _ am kviraSi

mniSvnelovan problemebs

gadawyvetT da SeZlebT,

daasruloT garkveuli saqmeebi.

lomi _ nu ganmarto-

vdebiT, Torem proble-

mis mogvarebis nacvlad

depresiaSi CavardebiT. uqme

dReebSi daiviwyeT samsaxurTan

dakavSirebuli problemebi da

daisveneT.

qalwuli _ am kvi-

raSi SeZlebT probleme-

bisgan Tavis daRwevas.

moipovebT warmatebas biznessa

da profesiul saqmianobaSi.

saswori _ es kvira

dadebiTi iqneba saswo-

rTa umravlesobisaTvis

materialuri keTildReobis

gasaumjobeseblad.

morieli _ am kviraSi

Tu Tqvens problemebs

ar moagvarebT, garwmu-

nebT, aucileblad SegecvlebaT

guneba-gganwyobileba. mosalo-

dnelia konfliqtebis Semci-

reba.

mSvildosani _ mo-

salodnelia yofiTi

problemebi. ecadeT, mSv-

idi atmosfero SeiqmnaT. Ca-

ukvirTiT sirTuleebs da saku-

Tar TavSi eZebeT gamosavlis

povnis SesaZlebloba.

Txis rrqa _ Txis rqa-

Ta umravlesobam am kvi-

raSi aqtiuroba unda ga-

moiCinos. geliT warmateba bi-

znesSi, SemoqmedebiT saqmiano-

basa da sasiyvarulo urTi-

erTobaSi.

merwyuli _ Seeca-

deT, maqsimalurad gamo-

iyenoT Tqveni fizikuri

da sulieri Zalebi sasurveli

saqmisTvis. xelmZRvanel pire-

bTan urTierToba gagiumjobe-

sdebaT.

Tevzebi _ am kviraSi

SesaZlebeli gaxdeba ara

marto Tqven garSemo

myofi adamianebis Secvla, ara-

med axali saqmianobis dawyebac,

romelic Zalze saintereso da

perspeqtiuli iqneba.

nniiuu-iioorrkkSSii mmeeccnniieerreebbiissTTvviiss ddRReemmddee uuccnnoobbii mmoonnssttrrii aaRRmmooaaCCiinneess

ist riveris

raionSi jilim da

misma megobarma uC-

veulo, didkbile-

biani monstri ipo-

ves. SeSinebulma

gogonam moaxerxa

misTvis foto ga-

daeRo sakuTari

mobiluri tele-

foniT. jilim fo-

toebi sxvadasxva

gazeTs gaugzavna.

aSS-is parkebis

departamentis pres-spikeris viki karpis SexedulebiT, monst-

ri Semwvar Rors hgavs, romelic viRacam fanjridan gadaagdo.

magram Rors xom grZeli kudi da TaTebi ara aqvs? amaze viki

karpi arafers ambobs. mecnierTa mtkicebiT, cxoveli ZaRls

yvelaze metad hgavs. mimdinareobs kvleva, ra tipis mutacias-

Tan SeiZleba gvqondes saqme.

aaddaammiiaanneebbss SSeeuuZZlliiaaTT 330000 wweellii iiccooccxxlloonn??

1974 wels li-

banma mosTxova saf-

rangeTs is 12 mumia

daebrunebina, romle-

bic 1921-26 wlebSi

frangi mecnierebis

jgufma waiRo qvey-

nidan da Semdeg dai-

karga. dRemde ucno-

bia, iyo Tu ara saf-

rangeTis mier mitacebul koleqciaSi asakovani mumiebi. liba-

nuri mxare iuwyeba, rom mumiebi qalaq biblosSi aRmoaCines ba-

albekis sataZro kompleqsSi me-20 s-is 20-ian wlebSi.

britaneTis muzeumi ukve 200 weliwadia ar ubrunebs saber-

ZneTs parTenonis bareliefebs, xolo venecia uarzea daabrunos

bizantiis imperatorebis samefo aRWurvilobani. libanuri pre-

sa ityobineba, rom safrangeTis specsamsaxurebis laboratori-

ebSi, naxevari saukunea ukve, rac mumiebis detaluri Seswavla

mimdinareobs, radgan jer kidev 1962 wlidan mumiebis analiz-

ma aCvena, rom 12 finikiuri mumiidan TiToeuli maTgani 300

wlis asakSi gardaicvala.

sicocxlis xangrZlivoba finikiaSi saxelmwifo doneze yo-

fila atanili. rogorc arqivis direqtori aleqsandr jemiri

ityobineba, mefe xiram I, romelic Cv.w.aR-mde 969-996 wleb-

Si mefobda, ubrZana graalis mcvelebs SeeqmnaT mudmivi axal-

gazrdobis recepti. amisTvis aSenda ori taZari biblosSi da

baalbekSi. ra moxda Semdeg _ ucnobia, radgan mefe xirami 53

wlis asakSi gardaicvala.

magram ubralo xalxi mainc eZebda sicocxlis xangrZlivo-

bis gasaRebs. karTagenSi punikuri omebis dawyebamde qalebs uf-

leba eZleodaT weliwadSi erTxel daxocili monebis sisxl-

Si ebanavaT mTvaris RvTaeba tanitis sapativcemulod, es RvTa-

eba oci wliT `aaxalgazrdavebda~ mis Tayvanismcemels. 264 w.

Cv.w.aR-mde es mxe-

curi procedura

qalaqis sabWom

gaauqma. sisxlSi

banaoba mxolod

tanitis sapativ-

cemulod iyo Se-

saZlebeli, nebis-

mier sxva SemTx-

vevaSi _ ara.

baalis taZar-

Si arqeologebma

aRmoaCines oTaxe-

bi, romlebic sav-

se iyo adamianTa ZvlebiT, _ ambobs istorikosi rasim gaidari.

baali saswaulmoqmedi `RmerTi~ iyo, mas patara bavSvebsac ki

swiravdnen.

kvlevebis Sedegad cxadi xdeba, rom is 12 mumia ekuTvnis

qurumebs, romlebmac Seqmnes `sicocxlis eleqsiri~.

cnobilia, rom egviptis faraonebis dinastiis warmomadgen-

lebi da TviT ramzesi 25-30 wlis asakSi gardaicvalnen. maSin

40 wlis adamiani moxucebulad iTvleboda. biblia ambobs, rom

adamma 930 weliwadi icocxla, misi vaJi _ semi _ 912 wlis

iyo, noem _ 950 weli icocxla. yvelaze didxans maTusalam

gaZlo, is samoTxeSi moxvda maSin, roca 969 wlis iyo. 90

wlis asakSi, Tu biblias davujerebT, qalebi Svilebs Sobdnen,

xolo 125 weli sibrZnis wlad iTvleboda. saeklesio istori-

kosi evsevi kesarieli Tavis CanawerebSi 5 faraonze hyveba. isi-

ni 100 weliwadi marTavdnen qveyanas. igi aRwers SemTxvevas,

roca faraoni pepi II 6 wlis asakSi avida taxtze da marTav-

da 94 weliwadi (2184 weli Cv.w.aR-mde). arsebobs cnobebi, rom

pepi II-m 400 weli icocxla.

is ki ara, uZveles mematianeTa Soris kamaTi mimdinareobda,

ratom iyo zogierTi adamiani `ukvdavi~, xolo zogierTi _ ara.

mecnierebi saubroben eTiopiaSi aRmoCenil erT istoriul wya-

roze, romlis mixedviT, bevri eTiopieli mefe da misi garSe-

momyofni 200 weli cocxlobdnen.

saqme isaa, rom daaxloebiT 3000 wlis winaT adamianebi 3-

5 saukune cocxlobdnen. riTi da ra saSualebebiT, amaze pasu-

xi, jerjerobiT, ar arsebobs.

aallkkoohhoollii ggoonneebbaass aaaaqqttiiuurreebbssilinoisis Sta-

tis universite-

tis fsiqologebma

kvleva Caatares

aRmoCnda, rom ma-

makacebi, romleb-

sac alkoholi

hqondaT miRebuli

ufro logikurad

wyvetdnen proble-

mebs. kvlevaSi 40

axalgazrda mamaka-

ci monawileobda,

maT naxevarma ori

litri ludi mii-

Ro, danarCeni maTgani sruliad fxizeli iyvnen. maT misces

sxvadasxva davalebebi. fxizel mamakacTa 40 procenti, romleb-

sac garkveuli dro hqondaT Tavsatexis amosaxsnelad, am amo-

canis Sesasruleblad 15,5 sekunds moundnen, xolo nasvamma ma-

makacebma davalebis Sesrulebas 12 sekundi moandomes.

aRmoCnda, rom alkoholi analitikur unars aaqtiurebs, is

aZlierebs SemoqmedebiT unarsac.

moamzada ana vadaWkoriam

eris naTeli momavali eklesia-monastrebis mSe-

neblobaSia, miiReT monawileoba wmida andria pir-

velwodebulis monastris mSeneblobaSi. ufali Se-

gewevaT. bednieri adamiani - morwmune adamiania.

rom gwamdes - unda daijero, rom gjerodes - unda

gindodes, madli rom moipovo - unda gsurdes. qarT-

velno, erTad RvTisaken!

RRmmeerrTTmmaa ddaaggllooccooTT ddaa ggaaggaaZZlliieerrooTT!!

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`saerTo gazeTis~ mkiTxvel-

Ta SekiTxvebs pasuxobs gazeTis

iuridiuli konsultanti, advo-

kati

mTvarisa kevliSvili.

tel.: 2 79 63 91;0 790 60 64 69; 5 93 78 64 69

* * *

_ iTvaliswinebs Tu ara sis-

xlis samarTlis saproceso ka-

nonmdebloba ganaCenis aRsrule-

bis gadavadebas?

_ iTvaliswinebs.

sisxlis samarTlis saproce-

so kodeqsis 283-e muxlis mi-

xedviT, im msjavrdebulis mi-

marT, romelsac sasjelad dau-

niSna Tavisuflebis aRkveTa, ga-

naCenis gamomtanma sasamarTlom

saxelmwifo sasamarTlo-samedi-

cino eqspertizis daskvnis sa-

fuZvelze, imave ganaCeniT, xolo

misi gamotanis Semdeg zepiri

mosmenis gareSe, ganCinebiT, Sem-

degi safuZvlebis arsebobisas:

a) msjavrdebuli daavadebu-

lia mZime avadmyofobiT, rac

xels uSlis sasjelis moxdas,

mis gamojanmrTelebamde an jan-

mrTelobis mdgomareobis arse-

biTad gaumjobesebamde;

b) msjavrdebuli ganaCenis

aRsrulebis momentisaTvis or-

suladaa _ mSobiarobis Semdeg 1

wlamde.

ganaCenis aRsrulebis gadava-

debis sakiTxs sasamarTlo gani-

xilavs msjavrdebulis mier ad-

vokatis kanonieri warmomadgen-

lis an sasjelaRsrulebis de-

partamentis Tavmjdomaris Suam-

dgomlobiT.

* * *

_ davayeneT sakiTxi nasamar-

Tlobis moxsnaze, razec sasa-

marTlom uari gviTxra. gvaqvs

Tu ara ufleba, imave moTxovniT

mivmarToT sasamarTlos?

_ gaqvT.

nasamarTlobis moxsnaze ua-

ris Tqmis SemTxvevaSi, Suamd-

gomlobis xelaxla dayeneba Se-

iZleba mxolod 6 Tvis Semdeg.

* * *

_ sisxlis samarTlis saqme-

ze ra SemTxvevebSi dauSvebs

gansaxilvelad sakasacio saCi-

vars sakasacio sasamarTlo.

_ sakasacio sasamarTlo uf-

lebamosilia zepiri mosmenis ga-

reSe Seamowmos sakasacio saCiv-

ris dasaSveboba.

sakasacio saCivari dasaSve-

bia, Tu:

a) saqme mniSvnelovania sa-

marTlis ganviTarebisa da erTg-

varovani sasamarTlos praqtikis

CamoyalibebisaTvis;

b) saapelacio sasamarTlos

gadawyvetileba gansxvavdeba am

kategoriis saqmeebze saqarTve-

los uzenaesi sasamarTlos ma-

namde arsebuli praqtikisagan.

g) saapelacio sasamarTlom

saqme ganixila mniSvnelovani sa-

marTlebrivi an saproceso dar-

RveviT, rasac SeeZlo arsebiTad

emoqmeda saqmis ganxilvis Se-

degze.

* * *

_ SeiZleba Tu ara sakasacio

sasamarTloSi damZimdes msjavr-

debulis mdgomareoba?

_ SeiZleba.

_ sisxlis samarTlis sapro-

ceso kodeqsis 308-e muxlis me-

2 nawilis Sesabamisad, sakasa-

cio sasamarTlos ufleba aqvs,

gamamarTlebeli ganaCenis nacv-

lad gamamtyunebeli ganaCeni ga-

moitanos, gamoiyenos saqarTve-

los sisxlis samarTlis kodeq-

sis ufro mkacri muxli, daniS-

nos ufro mkacri sasjeli an

sxva gziT gaauare-

sos msjavrdebu-

lis mdgomareoba,

Tu braldebis mxa-

rem Seitana sakasa-

cio saCivari swo-

red am moTxovniT

da Tu mas aseTi

pozicia ekava pir-

veli instanciisa

da saapelacio sa-

samarTloebSi.

* * *

_ ra SemTxve-

vebSi gadaecema

sisxlis samarT-

lis saqme gansa-

xilvelad did palatas?

_ sisxlis samarTlis sapro-

ceso kodeqsis 304-e muxlis mi-

xedviT, saqarTvelos uzenaesi

sasamarTlos sisxlis samarT-

lis saqmeTa palatis saqmis gan-

mxilvel Semadgenlobas SeuZ-

lia ganCinebiT saqme gadasces

did palatas, Tu:

a) saqmis ganxilvasa da ga-

dawyvetas gansakuTrebuli mniS-

vneloba aqvs erTgvarovani sasa-

marTlo praqtikis Camoyalibebi-

saTvis;

b) saqme Tavisi SinaarsiT

warmoadgens iSviaT samarTleb-

riv problemas.

* * *

_ ra vadaSi Seitaneba saape-

lacio saCivari?

_ saapelacio saCivari Sei-

taneba ganaCenis gamomtan sasa-

marTloSi misi gamocxadebidan 1

Tvis vadaSi. (muxli 293).

`saerTo gazeTis~ iuridiuli konsultaciaCvens ubanSi erTi mivardni-

li ezodan xSirad gamodis xma-

uris, lanZRvis, xan WurWlis

msxvrevis xmac. ismis mezoble-

bis ukmayofilo buzRuni, gada-

Zaxil-gadmoZaxili, gaSveleba,

patrulic araerTxel gamoCeni-

la, mogvardeba saqme, meore

dRes Wor-marTalis garCeva mi-

dis. “cxadia, bunagia, svamen. _

ambobs erTi, _ elisom moiyvana

Tavisnairebi da gaabes sma, qa-

lebs Sexede, qalebs, kacebi ar

gamodian maqedan iseTi mTvra-

lebi, rogorc eseni...” Cawynar-

deba situacia, gadis dro, isev

meordeba msgavsi scenebi.

es erT-erT ubanSi xdeba,

magram msgavsi TavSeyris adgi-

lebi Zalian mravladaa, risi

erTaderTi mizezic dalevaa.

Cven am SemTxvevaSi, yuradRebas

gavamaxvilebT qalur alkoho-

lizmze, rac erTob aqtualu-

ria Cvens qveyanaSi.

30-40 wlis mamakacebis Ta-

obas Tavs gadaxda samamulo da

samoqalaqo omebi, ramac masiu-

ri ganarkomaneba, galoTeba da

aTasi sxva ubedureba gamoiwvia,

riTac pirveli didi dartyma

miiRo Cvenma genofondma, magram

jerjerobiT xmamaRla ar lapa-

rakoben qaluri alkoholizmis

Sesaxeb. sasmels etanebian 30-

40 wlis qalebi, umcrosi Tao-

bac. mizezi, umetes SemTxvevaSi,

pirad cxovrebaSi Seqmnili

problemebia. ar umarTlebs

qals da sasmelSi klavs dards.

davubrundebi isev Cems ubnels:

`_ eliso, nuRar dalev, iq-

neb SeeSva”, _ eubneba erT_er-

Ti keTilismsurveli.

`_ eh, ra dros Wkuis dari-

gebaa, gviania, _ pasuxobs is

naRvliani TvalebiT. amas ra

sjobia. _ boTlze miuTiTebs.

es rom ara, cocxali aRar viq-

nebodi. xom ici, 14 wlisa viya-

vi, roca Semiyvarda. dRemde

miyvars. mogonebebiT vcxov-

rob. roca grZnobiTve mipa-

suxa, Cemze bednieri aravin

iyo. gavida wlebi Sexved-

rebSi, imaze ocnebebsa da

gegmebSi, rogori coli

viqnebodi. dedamisma ar da-

uSva Cveni qorwineba. raRac

idealur rZals eZebda.

amitom davrCi ase. iman mo-

iyvana coli. dedamTilis

imedebi rogor gaamarTla,

ar vici, magram amiTi me ra!

mere Cems ojaxSi daiwyo

problemebi. mama dameRupa,

dedam da naTesavebma qmari, pat-

roni gindao. gamiriges viRac.

ori weli vicxovre masTan. ver

Seviyvare, davSordiT. am daSo-

rebam is moitana, rom Sevxvdi

Cems colian Seyvarebuls da

masTan ganvaaxle urTierToba.

is cols Ralatobda, magram

CemTvis sul erTi iyo yvelafe-

ri. sayvarlebi gavxdiT da ami-

Tac uzomod bednieri viyavi.

arc es gagrZelebula didxans.

colma gaigo Cveni urTierTo-

bis ambavi, rasac skandali moh-

yva. davrCi isev marto. veRara-

vin miekara Cems guls. vmuSaob-

di, gaviCine nacnoboba. bevri

vnaxe Cemnairi ubeduri, vikribe-

bodiT, vsvamdiT, vuziarebdiT

erTmaneTs gulisnadebs. ase ga-

vida dro da SeveCvie am oxers.

Cemi megobrebi Cems Tvalwin

berdebian, feri ekargebaT, Tva-

lebi ucvivdebaT. maT saxeSi

Cems Tavs vxedav. sarkeSi Caxed-

va aRar minda. ra iqneboda gam-

marTleboda, myoloda kargi

qmari, is, vinc meyvareboda”, _

xris, Tvalebs, cremlebi mos-

dis, Wiqas etaneba. es xom araa

gamosavali, _ veubnebiT, Tavi

unda aiyvano xelSi, ra ici, mo-

mavalSi ra gelodeba. azri ar

aqvs, ar gvismens.

`Cemi klaseli daRupula”,

_ meubneba nac-

nobi qali, _

“quCaSi ipoves.

aRarc Svilebi

aqcevdnen yu-

radRebas. qmarma

adre miatova.

wlebis mere Se-

uyvarda viRac,

erT weliwadSi

isic gaqra. Amas

meore mohyva.

xom ici, qali

bednierebas eZebs, xan riskze

wasvlac sWirdeba da bolos ra

gamodis? hoda, ase gaqra yvela

misi cxovrebidan, darCa sasme-

li. mikvirs, Svilebma rogorRa

hkres xeli. gavige, sadac aris

dasaflavebuli, vnaxe saflavi.

vitire. is xom marTlac kargi

adamiani iyo. netavi, axlos vyo-

filiyavi masTan, ramden rames

vetyodi, iqneb gadamerCina.”

`_ vsvam da es CemTvis bed-

nierebaa, _ meubneba qali areu-

li TvalebiT. arc minda SeveS-

va. fxizeli gaborotebuli var,

mTvrali bednieri. vzivar ram-

denime megobarTan erTad saRa-

moobiT (iseTebTan, “sabutilni-

kebs” rom eZaxian) vsvam da ve-

lodebi viRacas. Cemi kari sul

Riaa. ramdenime wlis win didi

siyvaruli mewvia. arc mirekav-

da, kars Rias vtovebdi da Se-

modioda, icoda, rom velodebo-

di. erT dResac damTavrda Cemi

bedniereba. aRar Semosula.

gavsuleldi, kidev gavaRe kari,

roca megona, rom yvelaferi

kargisken Seicvleboda da gam-

qurda Cemma axalma Seyvarebul-

ma. mere kidev sxvam aqeT moin-

doma Cemi binis bunagad gamoye-

neba... gamityda guli, miveZale

sasmels, miqarvebda dards. vzi-

varT ase saRamoobiT da vsvamT,

magram Cemi kari isev Riaa, ax-

la aravin miyvars da arc ara-

vis vuyvarvar (mgoni, arc vyva-

rebivar), magram mainc velode-

bi. xan gaborotebuli Sevyureb,

nasvami roca var _ imedianad.

Tu vinme moxurvas moindomebs,

veCxubebi. iyos Ria.”

qaluri alkoholizmi arc

sazRvargareTaa ucxo da bevri

qveynisTvis moZvelebuli prob-

lema gaxlavT, magram Cvens de-

mografiul mdgomareobas lax-

variviT urtyams. procesi 90-

ian wlebSi gamwvavda. erT-erT

raionSi viyavi naTesavTan stum-

rad da mezobeli qali damxvda

galoTebuli. bavSvebs Turme qa-

tos aWmevda, puri rom ar moe-

povebodaT. mogexsenebaT, jer

qalaqSi ra iyo da provincieb-

ma xom namdvili jojoxeTi ga-

moiares. am cota xnis win kidev

vinaxule, momiyva maSindeli am-

bebi: “vijeqi uSuqo grZel Ra-

meebSi, Tu raime saWmelad var-

gisi iyo, bavSvebs vunaxavdiT,

me cotas Tu wavkiknidi rames,

magram, samagierod, gvqonda Rvi-

no. es miklavda SimSils da

dards mimsubuqebda. miveZale,

miveCvie da mere, roca cota ga-

mosworda mdgomareoba, wlebi

damWirda, rom cxovrebis nor-

malur kalapots davbrunebodi.

gavaanalize Cemi situacia, aviy-

vane Tavi xelSi, Svi-

lebmac moaxdines gav-

lena. yvela qals vur-

Cev: rac ar unda mox-

des, ar mieZalos alko-

hols, araa gamosavali.

arc dards CagiklavT,

Tu droebiT Segimsubu-

qebT, aTmagad uaresad

mogibrundebaT.”

gavavloT paraleli:

90-ian wlebSi gausaZ-

lisma pirobebma miiyvana

bevri aqamde. arc axlaa

ayvavebuli Cveni qveyana,

magram qalebisTvis alkoholiz-

mis mizezi, ZiriTadad, piradu-

li warumateblobaa. ar aqvs

mniSvneloba fenas, sazogadoe-

bas. yvelgan SexvdebiT aseT su-

raTs da saSiSroeba dRiTi dRe

izrdeba. isev Tanamedrove qarT-

veli qalis problemebamde mive-

diT. alkoholizmi Zalian aqtu-

aluri da mwvavea saqarTvelos-

Tvis, roca isedac aTasgvari

xerxebiT da gzebiT xeli ewyo-

ba qarTuli genis ganadgurebas.

iyaviT fxizlad.

Tamuna qadagiZe

kidev erTi dartyma

qarTul genofonds

qaluri alkoholizmi _

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