FRO THE P OFLE

ffi.IITE PRESS 315 l t1onal

~ Guest: Vice President Hub rt 1. Humphr y

Panel: W1111 Th is George arder John Chambers

• r• Viae resident. what loss of p~stige

A. tJDIO '.ti:TWOR abington D.C.

s the Admi istration

suff red as a result of the Viet Cone Tet offe sive?

A. I don't think it~ a lnss of prestig ; I think tb re 1s a growing

reoog ition ln cr1oa that this stru ·r ~1 in Vietnam 1 a d i...'f1oult o e • • is a trying one. ita filled w1th uncertainttee. l'v a secl a stc·ling

or the

through.

erica.n attitude, t t is a t1x1ng of our d es1r to "See i

Q. • Vice Pl1iea1dent. I'd 11ke t-o a k you a question that I heard en

th bus this orning. Wne~ do w~ go now in Vtetna~Y Our military

efforts a d our diplomatic ·tforta 1 ve !'aile to budg the e ne y toward

t peac t bl • Is 1 under onsideration- t ~ t qu st1on, her db we

go now?

A. Or course that is the continuing question befo the Aam1n1str t1on.

the resid nt aod his advisors. 1h military is but one operation tn

this struggl 1n ~1etnam1 this struggle ts being waged on the military

fro t, th political front, the eoon0Dl1C 1 social and diplomatic. fronts.

the military is e. very vital part o! it . Th& ~oe y has \,ot ga ined a

victory; the enemy b.as sur£ red serious losaes; th enemy's plan of'

action to tak over t he cities, to estab~ian or at blish. as I hould

say, so ealled frevolu ion ry adm1n1strat1ons•, to rorce the government

in s 1gon to its £e t--to its knees and out of power. 11 of that has

£n1led . Therefore, what we se as a» our alttiroat1v on ti~ allie side

is to pursue the battle. hopefully to co pel the enemy to pay suoh a

1st add humphr y

price that h 111 s the futility of hia struggle and at _the s me

t1 , and I rep at. t tb.e sam time to pur-s ue lfe Je Jtl ly'* ev ry

diplo at1o in1t1at1v. thats humanly possible. Y0 u can't be sur wnan

diplo cy 111 work. lie' vo sec ll this 1n other e ses..- in the- Berlin

airlift for exa pJ.e. e surely know t t in tbe case 1n laysia, Jh r

th ~alays,ian bad to fight tbe Com &o:o1sts :for sev y ar that here

war t i.!r.res it looked

that ttl y c ould res-ist tbe COilllnun1at gu rr1llaa, hut- they did come out

v1ctor1oua. tn 1 did 1 - and tb ~e was peace establ1 h 4. I'm convinced

that 11: we :nl.rsu the ooura on which are presently l uneh&d~ ot

at ~n il1t ry resistance to th agr ua1on and to the guer11.la a~d

successfully beati ao n the nemy o tbe military front and t .h

s time purauing eve:l'y poss1bl av u or d1plotnacy nd hopefully

strengthening the ; pol1t1oal structure of South Viet am. that w tU e

light t ths end ot tho ta n ll

Q. • V1ce Ppesldent, do you shar t e feeling of some peopl•, both

1n nnd out of govC"rnment, t t.at th1s r eoent and cont1nu1 Viet c ng

of.fenslv 1s lc a sans " tb.e1~ last g&$p ll1ta:zt.ily, including hat

happens at Khe ann, that this is tu break point either way.

A. I don't thi k e can be UN o:f t · t. I don• t want to mak ny

such ~r die t1Qn. I do think one ca safely say, howev r, that thG

t r -ibl cost tb4 ene. y has paid 1n +ivea and 1n ter1 l 1s one that

dne dr in their resouroes. I don't consider the enemy to m dmen

1n tne sens of tlo judgment at all. I b l1ev that Bo Chi l inb. Ul

pursue s 1litary victory 1f h thinks 1t 1s poas1bl • It he finds

that h. can not achieve his gosla m1lita:r11y, b.e has tow choices. eithfl,r

to withdraw fro tt~ c ne ot b ttl by de-es lat1oR nd goins back to corae

into th ijnngle and back up 0rth# or ~~to the confer ence table

2nd ad h phrey

A~ .t hopea that he ma gain something at the egoti ati g table. It

how ver. the 111 1 f£ort 1a ~ failure and I xpeet that it will b ,

1 bel1•n that tht da7 of n got1at:.i. t:)ns is clos•P s t ba. d w t l · at tbe

day of d ac lation and withdr val back into th~ coantr1s1de a d be7 nd

tn• .frontS.cr .. I do 't think there 1a a way to pred1ot wb n that day

will be and I don* t think any -cne can pre41c.t or safely p1• diet t t th1s

i s t l-as~ g sp. I doubt it.. Ithink tb.e en 1 stUl s npowe~,

stUl haa equ1pm nt an 1\ldited. the souroca ot •qu1pment; bUt I doubt

t . t it will b able to ount as eff ect1v an otre siv aa it ha rtJC ntl7

The poi.n1i th t we ought to koep 1 mtod is iiPa the pe-1nt nr t n1a

oftt siv-e., tbe ill. ary obj ct1 ••• f1rat of all !'aile • the political

obje tiv s ar till 1 questio • I tb1nk myself they tail d, hut 1t

~ thert1 1 ~ill 1 t anoth~r otte 1v~ lt y be that they oan

tarr~rize the population ttd thereby d stro7 oral 1n s utb ietnam. I

doubt that. I don·' t t ink ao. t · thin theev1denoe is prepo der nt17

agat at tl::ult. And wh' de I say so? Bee uae ther e ha& been oo roa a

detection ot p ople• t re was no ~pr1~1ng to support t~e V1 t Cong which

th Vtet C0 ng C~un1st for a &XP'f!Cted a d there wore no de art1ona or

defections of' tbe rm d :toroes of Soutb. Vietn • An,d 'by tb.e way. ll

the captUX'ed dooumen a of' the orth V1cr t tl mea nd Vi t C0 ng 1nd1cate

that b.ay bad exp ·oted (when I say they, tne Communtsta) bad axp etfld

t hat there would b subatan 1al d fe t1ons end esertion in th ARVN

~, tn. S0uth 1~tnamese military !orces and the popular ~orees. l 0 $te d

~f that hap lng, gentlem n, th popular ro~ • the r g1onal forces.

tb e are th m111t1a typ --tbsy ro ht br•v~ly d nut singl ajor

u.uit of tb:e, VB, of the ArtrJ.'Y ot tb.l$ Republic e:t Vietnam desert d or

d t ct d. . y: :f'ougb bravel.y~ 1ni' et th i.r t aoeou t in the b ttle

chua f r s wne the battle w s brought to th m 1n th 1r c1t1es.

JID Jrd add humphrey

Q. . • Yic Pre 1dent.~ X wonder 1.f you could clarity this CtHJC«l'n that

3'0U hear 1¥1 th S nate n4 in ot .. r p ce in hingto , that although

t e n my paid a v~ry high pr1c in Vtetnam~ it did ace pllsn the

obj cttv ot underm1n1ng tho confidence- 1 the J 1gnn•a government to

prot et t~ clt1es atd tb peop1 even 1th th id of the Unit d States.

CDuld you clarity that.

A. 11. as a tter of t ct.- I'm afraid our f r1ends in th C0 ngr'ess

hav h d their ey•s fixed pr arilJ on s 1gon. ny oth r e1ties.

m oy other c nnit1e 1b Vtetna c~er the past two and a halt y era

b.ave uf'fered att okS r p-e.atedly fro th krrori t. tu subv ra1vea,

the guerrUla aod the V'Let C0 ng. w. knoti tor e;(am~ that Da Nang air

base bas b en mo}'"to.;red a half a doz n • cr.e t1.me and:ax~ tber

o un~ties a d metropolita a eaa hav be n under ~ attack and so

that in so r r as th~ sa.ft1ty of any city -was cone rned there nev r has

b 1 g rante of f>er:t ct fety. I would think t wbat t s

r c nt ttnok d*'monstratsd as that whtl the Vt.et C0 ng could r~n

auio1dal mi sions~ ao to ap ak, te~~or1stic 1 s1ons. 1 was unabl to

hold ~ sinel~ ait7, 1t as unable to get control or ny adm1n1stra,1ve

structure. It did not b:reak down the govern ent of S igon. a tter

or fact s I sp ak to you. tho Asse bl~. th~ eloot a people ' assembly

1n 1gon 1s 1n ees&1on and for the first tim that Ass~mbly is aupportin

th government wit

being demoralized,_ sbattar d, the fact of the ~ tter is that Pr s1dent

Th1eu i prob bly stro ger today as a r · ult of' this attacks durivg th

T t period t n befor • And sur ly Vice P~s1 nt Ky ha come to th

tor front again along w1th Gen. il~ ~ og, d you ay recall that

Gen. Tbang, tn head of tb.e ~ao1ficat1on effort had resigned just priol"

~o th~ T•t ttaok. hat did h do t n att•r th T~t attaek1 h ea e

4th add h . phrer

back. is todaJ. al ng with Ky. 1 ol~ge ot resto1 t1ou d

l:'e onat!t"uet on 1 all or t be o1 t1 s 1n V t: tn • H is b ek i on~ o:t

the se 1t>P ;po it1o in all of tb.e gove.rn ent a d not a s1ng.l on of

t top o.ff1oers in Vi tnam has. well. go ov r to the ne y,_ has

shtr n a y w altncss, tb.a 1:1 any 1l1t ry veak ss. 'r ey fo t bravelJ

and I r p at1 b~twe·en 8.5 and 90 par cent of tb.e a ct1on 1 th1s reo nt

offensive was handled by tb S0 utb. Vi t ae1~se them elv a. !bats wbr

tb y had ore ea ual ti ~ a than d1<l ~Je Am rica • y dld a v r; g d

job and th gov rnm nt still is -*it doing it job, still has adm1nistrat1

control nd I think baa a1 d co sidera 1 supp rt,.

Q. • Vic Pres1J ant# he do w ca italize on ilttary ~ailur by

tb.e en 1UJ out t hereD no we 1ncrea ~ olll'" m111tar<,J prtt sure on him

A. ell, as you probably . ow, thAt 0 uth Viet . am s the elv s are

asking foll' m{)l' t~oopa. And by the ,zay. here is nether 1ndicat1on of

h ts v loped. Pr1or to this Tat off l&iv t Y've be n rgulng and

argu1. g :tn t' as ly about whether o:tt ot th y ought to ba e 65.000

mo tnaeps which hdd btl n pledged •••

Q. Y0 u m~an mor outb ~ Vtetuamese ••••

• i:>OUth Vietn m se troops. w th govern ent d the s ·se bly gr e

t t t se thin a must be done. fh y ar c 1~1 g b o n to th~ co1ora

t t had b~HH1 ust :red out, th ,.. re wxtendlng the period ot enl1stment,

they•ra calling up mung me 1 agod 17 and 16 "When .fore they er

arguing about ag 19. I don't call thnt a w akness in the govarnment.

A far s are concerned .. the . ount. the t'o_rce l.eVEls that had be n

stabl1shed are going to be maintain d. Gt!'n. W a _oreland made. a

request f or some atld1t1onal tzaoop'B but that was with1n tne 'orce level•

that had be n agreed last fall b tw n tn Pp sid nt and Gen. Westtnor-elan

I thlok our i'1>.r4 lev l, U I t 111 not is-taken. is s~igb.t~y ov r ~00}000

Sth add n · l)b.;Pe

W hav no p ns t t I IPl know of to a xpand or !no a t t 1 v 1.

Q. ~b n 1t t here 1& an 1uorea' e 1n fox-o levels 1t ahould come t r o

t e outb V1etna esef

put 1t th1 •7• o ca 't predict wbat Will happ n

1Q t d 78 ahaad. but 1 know of ne plan and tb • o plans s of no ,

to inereas th.a toroe lev-el of Unit d St tea troops lP th area. !nere

ra plana tu 1ncre se the rcroe level ot the outb Vt•t~ese, they 11

giv g11ea\e:r part1c1pat1on and hope.t'ully there are .forces that will be pos&1bly

o 1ng 1 f T ll. d and other ~- ar •

Q. b,oul.d Dur r• qrvt&ta pluck ao~ h p fr that- Mr. V1ct.t P~es1clentf

A. Wel.l 1 let th~ C

tbe tble.

ndfl:t-1 ..Ch1 ~ ape k on he e a t t.,rs oat ot

Q. .Mxt· V1c.e r,>4tl1dent, you nt!oned s1gna or • st1ft4tn1n..., dsterm1nat1oo

tn th t:Jn1ted Stat a. D0 JOU see the. pos&ib1l.1ty or a more tawkish

attitude on t he ~ of the Unit d State pres uring th Aam1n1 tratton

tow :rd anothEr escal tlon o.t' t h watt?

A.. o• I was 1mpr.asacut how•var ~ with the rae t ubl1c opin1o urveys

1rdl1· h show ~hat t r J,s gr ater public support today tor bur e-ffort in

• who support our o 1t ~~~ 1 Viet

?bat d $0 1 t m an that all t oae

ara happy with thf! ways things

ar go11tg but th r 1 no eal bod,- of op1n1on in .. r i oa for w thdrawal.

I think: t his is very porta .t.. In other words, wnen th s.hoek attack

e • uver th Tat pettiod., instead o:t the Ame~tcan p ople aayinL W8 :tl, ita.

bad and 1ta terr ible a d e o ht to get out, th Am ric n people bJ

the substantial. 1ncr aa ln tb o.sure of pub~1c opinion sa 1d1 no

WI 're tner , we're got g to ae:~ it tbPough. I don't tb.1nk this . us

• hawkish attitua • Wnat I think this ~ans ts a greater det 1'111 t1 oil

and I bel1ev that th1 wlll hav a ve17 good tfi'ect, oversea:l and pa rt1.cul

6th add aumphr 1

1n Hanoi. I believe that wtleo t e men 1 H noi~: Ho Gn1 tnb. and his

eoho:x'ts. begi t aena tbat ti:~ 1r a t taeks nt not df.nnor 1.1$ S.ng t

A.mcric n p~\lli~;, are not able to sostr'oy the fabric of g overn ant in

S0 utn 1 tn , the J ar Qot r sultiog tn ss d s rt1ons and de! ot1ona

et AR troo of SQuth Vtetn # I think the men of no1 a~ go1n to

tak a a oond look-·I can't ~ell yoq wb. t tb.oJ are ge1ng to eo out

w1th but 1f 1t happened to U&• t e a

be vi g •om real aoond and third looks around ho •· Ca~ you 1 agio

what would ha.ppe in tb• United St ate 1r xu our forces had suffered

ncb incredible l ossee. Can yo~ bag1n wbat 9eo9l would b s Jtog

about olll" P~sld nt and about o~ oi'1'1oers.. )Jow J: o that a pol1o

stat& doesn't have tn1s tr odmQ of p v.bl1o 6ptn1.on, but you eantt sto~

people from thinking and de pit the clo ed .. aoc1 ty, the w~rd 1s

,g4tt 1ng back to ol'tn Vietnam t• t this oft ns1ve wa& not a at1oc s :.

tbay are unablG to bold, they have been driv~n ack. the7'v be n killed

by t he tnousa da and t here bav been mol'e capttv s in the last onttl

1n Vtet a: than 1 t proce ding 7enr. .,r /II~ttth V1 tna!lMI.se and

iet C0ng oapt1v and w•'!4 a1n1ng gr at d al of inrorro t1on.

Q. Wttat e.t'.feot- a• bas this h d on the ortll Vtetnam s public and

th gnvern ant 1 your opinion

A. I an only sur 1.so. I don•t th1nk w have an7 Wi y ot me ur1ns

that ut I always aaurne that the oppos.1t1on has 81). e en of tluJugh.t and

I kno ~ t h.e7 have men of e p bil.i tl•

~. Mr. Vice Preside t, what do you think. 1£ any. is going to b the

•~t ot o our whole t ) onal posture with r elation to the expected

racial unrest this s eP .r tb Senate do s not act on the e1v1l righta

b111 in sc fo ~ a bill w 1c bas neen by th 0 use.

• ~- Tb 1s l t . e put 1 t t his way. I bellev that if tb.e C0 gpaaa

7th add h~hrey

' I

would pas some o:r t h oivU rtghta asur - ~~ tbat er b :fo u.s, it

w-ould hav a a lu.tory effect. It would b h lptul. But truth!'ullJ',. and

I'm in v•ry at~ong su port of these p~oposa1s not oaly because theY're

Adm1 1st-rat on propo. als. but I've t l .t tll1:s "' for y ar•• what 1S

re lly ore required than nyth1ng k lse r1g t now is ot1v1ty and

progre s on t e job front--on the re l npportun1t ~ont--hous1ng, joba1

aconomio opportunity, soh.oo11ng and whe Pres1d•nt Johnson announeri

in 3-tat ef the Tinton aaag tb1a gr at ocmoe tnt1on on plOT-'Jle t

a£ the hal!d cor• nne plo;red and asked t!f:r. 1:I n:ry Ford ll to he d up tbe

n tional bus1neaa ll1ance of pr1vat• b in sa. I think th1a What is

~los at to the hearts ot the people 1 tho g ttoa Dow and wl•ts re$11~

elo to tn earts o:f the people in our minority greupa. 'l0 b sur•

we n e civil rights l gialat1on a d the open ho tng 1egislat1on b 1ng

sponso-:red b S •· t!ondale in tb Senat-.. I th1nk would be very. Ve'!'"f

nelptul. It gives people t freedom• 111 the fr edcm of ovement.

I don•t think it . eao eessgril~. ven if it pas~ d• that th r would

be any great ahtft or where pe. p~e 11va but pe pl.e W<Juld at l~ast feel

that tb. y ve tlle' •1 ht to l1v w.h r h.e·Y w nt to live and this is

vet'Y-r vary important. «rne prot ct1o o.f civU ~1gbts work-ers 1s ver,-

v ry 1 portant. the tnt grity of our jury sy&te is very, very important;

all of thee re important p1ece of l gialation. but g ntl•.en it s1

m: view that th emotional inter st ~n the l g1sl$t1ve t~oht te less

today than it as a tew years ago_. and t 1 sr at COtJCer ot the peop1e

in the ghettos and t slums 1s for co o 1e nd soo1al opportunity.

for a better dnoat1o , for J•bs1 for rewarding mployroent, fer the

ell ne~ to oe an acltve participant in thJ soe1al an-d ~oon-om1e life.

' . Bth dd b p y

Q. Pursuing t r at ubj ct. • r• Vl<te P,_..es1dent,. what more can tn.t executive

bra cb do that lx* 1t 1s ftot do1ng n • or has not den 1n t he past~ to

a rry th1a •ffort .foruard and :WY to 1mprov• tbes~ real1 ties of opportunit

A. 11. the x cutive bra on througb. the d1rect1 of the Pr sld ot.'ls

bending e-v-ery f'f'ort to open up tru, e doors nf economic nd social

opportunity i n t fi ld of ducat1on and eur gu1del1n nn d segregation

in the phasis of educat.ional ss1 s tano tU.sadvafttaged nd our le)ment ry

od se~onda:Py educatio acts. our higher education proposal. our youth

op ortun1tJ progr ••th stdent d1reoted

of ttl P~esld nt' 1 ~ lnunch1ng tor

the. third year ow e v ery ex1;(:l ns 1 va ~rngr in c oop :rat1on with tb

gov roor and aJol'S and ·pJ>ivate indust~r tu! tb volunt ~'1 grou.ps or

tru1y snmm r of opportunity !'or young peopl.e. It ess-ent1all7 r

prograns.llitil youngat r oomi out or ahool in lat y and early Jun ,

what ar th y goin to do? ell, laat y ar,

1 this ooun r1 for youth b twe n the agee· of 16 nd 21. Thts y r e

ant to stap that up to l.5oo.ooo with at least afx 200,000 mor ot tn d1sadvaotag~d* h~rd oore unemployed young people betwe n the ages or 16

nd 21.. e'll expand our rear tlon and eamp1ng program. Give you one

· l1ttle x pl & t o yenr ago th B0 y couts of A rica d 26S boy-s•

dlsadva t ag boy fro: the slums in their s .Qout1ng pro l'aln. a at year

with our coopor· tiv effor ta. 25,000. ~his y6ar I jus t et wi th them--

0 w thata ncfJ a groa t h1ng, but its a

sub tantial oti1evement. Bow pr1v t 1 duatry ia gol g to wnr on the

job training .tl•ont, on t he job placing n job recrutime t .front. I

. t tbe bu.aine s o unoU._ reper s nt1ng someo!' tbe top b\181 ese leaders

Ford and mysel~ were wtth the for a couple

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9th add humpbPey

ot hours tb1 st ek 1n iash1ngton D.C. and we outlin d t ere wb t

priva.i:te oeotor and I'm happy to tell you that

businltsa 14'1 Ant.r1ca today i.s exeit d bent tb.1s, thttJ know they have to

d~ 1t. t y know the em l.leng 1a th 1*4# so with tho P s1dent orktng

congre s and with the executiv d partaent and Nork1ns ith ~ For4 and

th 1e Pr aiden · sort of backs.topp1ng thla. and all or us puab.1 g

a d pulling tog the~, I think •' go1 g to k some B nuin progresa.

te1y concer ed with tbis proble •

H said a thing that I tbo ht-•1t pressed v ry uoh. sa1d

w were tn race 1 st t1m , we ..,~u:·e 1 a :r ce again t tl.l.e riots this

s rJ we w Pe 1 a race aga1· at the balek 1l1ta te, The P~es1dent'a

job tratntng prog:ram, tb.e concentrat d progra that you mentioned,

provide · for 100.000 jobs over the n .xt 16 months,. I b liove. I th14

enoUBb in magnitud to w!o that race?

A. p~ovide tor 5oo.ooo jobs ln t 1 ne t three y~ara a ·nd tbats xclus1'\l

of' the 2oo.ooo jobs that r la:te to 7ou g pe·ople bet e lr: the ages of

16 a.nd 21. .Now It* I must just as w 11 be Viary candid. ab&ut 1 t. a tid han

l spoke to our business leaders I was exn edingly f!muk and •nwziz:......-

d for 1t. T ey didn't get, tb y

said• a s ow job. Th got candor an i'rankn ss d th truth. are

up again t e. bard aud di.:f:fcult ss&sment. 'lb hard core unemployed ar.e

uot g ·)ing to respotld o a job opporturt1ty jut b cause you. put ap a

ig a d s y help anted. You literally have tc go find them, and ~~ePui

ud train them and hekp them just to th d1saip~1~s or work.

ny of tbes pe.opl have nev r kno o t t it was to e on job. they• ve

had oo exper1enc at work. · n~ of lO ~ are 1ll4terate, illite ate

not only tn terms of l'eadtng a d writing but lndust:r-1 117 illtterate.

' . lOth dd bnmpbr 1

'fhey ve no xperieuo in te • of reporting to work on tim • llh y

don't ow w t to d abo t shop steward or v-en f nrem o. What to do t. •v n o a c of~ee b~ak. how to get on bus and get tc~lal job. !hi 1a a ae~1ous and d1ff1cul preble • T~nspot~at1on. health proble • re tnvolv 4 here. h re ar n • qulok

nd aay answerea, SJotX nd I must ay 1 s.~l c ndor. that if ~ople aN

looking on tne job progr as au 1nat nt cure for riot! g. t 1 ar got

tg be disappoint d. l don't k ow if 1h1 will allicrrt te th r tot

proble • I• no even ure we're goi g to hav• r1ot ·-I mow e-veryont is lking about h.e and you can talk yours U into trouble$ it bal-4 to t lk yourself out.- I do t hink we ha e to e pr ~ed frJ# a difficult

ttms thl eummer. but ve .. *MI o ht to look upon jobs and job tra1u1 and job place. eot as necessary r• po ~biliti s, as reaponslb1l1ti- s

n neo saiti i a 1n our s c1 ty. Hope!'ull.J lt Mill aU1sv te tbe

ttne1on. bopefull7 tt y qu1et t down emotiona and • s ve us fro v1ol& ce a12d tt-oubla. I can't be sur • but I. know ve've got to do

tt. I know thout tt w111 be a wor s r.

Q. Row do you a swer a n,.. rttn Lutha~ King who intends to co e to W s hin ton thts su:m:actl:" with s a-tbin Uke hi o1'V1l disob dianee

c pa1g nd ays you'~ not planning enougnf

A-. Well• w ~xpeat tbat men l1ke Dr. Luth r K1ng 111 sar t t w 111

not pl nn1 g enough. I auppose 1ta tru~ that one of us ever do qu1t• 4tnougb.. W ybc ~n•t ev n kn what ts quite eno h. but I don't think e o h to pl"eaume that Dr• lttng 1a go1 s to bre k the law .. 1s

g~1 to b violent. I d on • t tb1uk w ought to se:ume t h orse. I

" t,h1nk 1 t tgllt b v l.l it e tri d to tin~ ways and m os by- which the

l 11 could be abtd•d by a d I can asu:re of on t hing_. that 1.f th l"

1a violation of tne laws tn terms of eri lnal bebav1o! by auyone. or

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violence or r1ot1ng t t our mun1o1pal1t1ea, our states ~nd govern nt

are prepar d to d 1 t lfitll it, hut just a • must se.rk to r9Strain

v1ol.enf1e a.nd must prevent J.awl• an sa 1n our str eta, l1kew1 we

u~t bav a c 1 tma t to social justice and to prov1d1ng the equality

ot opportunit.~ n not only prov.iding 1t but helping to make it al.

Youse there ar two aides to this colo. On th one hadft 1 tb ·re ia

no room tor rioti g and v1ol~no nd erimtual b hav1cr and buol1gna1~

b caus4 you 4on•t get anyplace thi

but n tne ot~or nd bavt g aa1 t

y,becau.se · U 1t does ia to de trDJ'

t a d 1ng restrainedtbs

rlole oce or hav1

br ak tbX'ough. tb.e

subdued, it you e an equal obli a tio to try o

pre judices,. th a 'barr1€'re tb. Jt have d&n1ed p opl

quality of opportunity and a ch Q4e tc .ke a~~athins( o~t o! ~

th 1:r lives.

Q. r• Vtce Preeld ut • did you re 1g from th

J.me you left t ADA?

CP about t ntt sa e

1 A. i 0 # I on•t believe I ever did. A8 a matter of faot ztm not r1

su:re . bout m1 membersblpa but I'm very mucb 1u euppol'lt or tne Wol'ik

th&t tlA.ACP bad dona t~ough theye rs. 1 believe I · y have a membersblp

out 1n M1un ot •

Q. Bow did you t el bout th'G A miors1og yoar tor r oolleague, I

guess rut • s still yoUl' oclle ague, Sen.. 'us•ne MoC8 rtb.y?

A. 1ieU, a I have 1nd1oated, hen I bee:an!G lee rellident i. as no

longer m& b11r of A • I helped buil.d ADA, I'm very pacbrlt p~o ot

that · nd I B a of.f1ce~ o£ but I t nought when I took on the high

office of Vic President 1t uld be both... 11 1t Wouldnlt

help eith r All.\ or • Iu r ther wo~ ., they re going to tako 90 1t1ons

as they have throughout the ye rs, from wht\tever nd.utstratioo s:t 1

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know.

Q. Y0 u•re s geating that th y y b coming back 1nto the fold after

B v e~Jt

A. ell I sur$ll' wou~dn •t want to d eny nyone thtl:t opportunity and 1•

not going to be ~cold1 g p opl • I would w•lcoms upport fpgm an1

resp n&lble soure •

Q. Y0 ur f llow D0mocrat from cl1nnesota• Sen. nO rtby bas suggested

tbJit lf he w re Vice ;rresident;t feeling as b.e does, that h would be

JOid silent ow ofte - these days. Do you fe l a nee.d .fo;r that old n

subata.no ?

. u. 1t I .felt as n. C rthy does, I sup-pose I W'OUld be s1lent.

But I don't eel t way S0 n. C8 rthy does and just as he expr ssea ~

right to dtss nt. I • press my rtght ot advoc C1• I ve a high regard

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for . 1 ooll ague and friend irom nesota. but I ' m in strong &flppo:rt

not onlr of th President.,but or hat the Prssid•nt stands tor at home

nd abroad.

Q. De you 1'1nd the MoCarth,- ca.ndidac

A. Inter sting.

Q. Tba~k you very much str .

t1 ula t . g?

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