First Revision No. 1-NFPA 17-2015 [ Section No. 2.2 ] · First Revision No. 1-NFPA 17-2015 ... Updated reference to the latest edition year in accordance with the NFPA Manual of Style

First Revision No. 1-NFPA 17-2015 [ Section No. 2.2 ]

2.2 NFPA Publications.

National Fire Protection Association, 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471.

NFPA 30, Flammable and Combustible Liquids Code, 2012 2015 edition.

NFPA 70®, National Electrical Code®, 2011 2017 edition.

NFPA 72®, National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code, 2013 2016 edition.

NFPA 96, Standard for Ventilation Control and Fire Protection of Commercial Cooking Operations,2011 2017 edition.

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Submitter Full Name: Jacqueline Wilmot

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Submittal Date: Thu May 07 12:54:37 EDT 2015

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Committee Statement: Updated in accordance with the NFPA Manual of Style.

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Public Input No. 29-NFPA 17-2014 [Chapter 2]

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First Revision No. 19-NFPA 17-2015 [ Section No. 2.3.2 ]

2.3.2 ASME Publications.

American Society of Mechanical Engineers, Three Two Park Avenue, New York, NY 10016-5990.

Boiler and Pressure Vessel Code, 2010 2015 .

ANSI/ASME B31.1, Power Piping, 2010 2014 edition (including B31.1a 1999 Addenda and B31.1b 2000Addenda).




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Submittal Date: Sun May 24 15:43:32 EDT 2015

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Committee Statement: Updated references in accordance with the NFPA Manual of Style.

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2.3.3 ASTM Publications.

ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959.

ASTM A 53 A53 /A 53M A53M , Standard Specifications Specification for Pipe, Steel, Black andHot-Dipped, Zinc-Coated, Welded and Seamless, 2010 2012 .




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2.3.4 UL Publications.

Underwriters Laboratories Inc., 333 Pfingsten Road, Northbrook, IL 60062-2096.

ANSI/UL 300, Fire Testing of Fire Extinguishing Systems for Protection of Commercial CookingEquipment, 2005, Revised revised 2010 2014 .

ANSI/UL 1254, Pre-Engineered Dry Chemical Extinguishing System Units, 2010 2013 .




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Committee Statement: Updated reference to the latest edition in accordance with the NFPA Manual of Style.

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Public Input No. 30-NFPA 17-2014 [Section No. 2.3.4]


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2.4 References for Extracts in Mandatory Sections.

NFPA 17A, Standard for Wet Chemical Extinguishing Systems, 2013 2017 edition.

NFPA 25, Standard for the Inspection, Testing, and Maintenance of Water-Based Fire Protection Systems,2011 2017 edition.


NFPA 122, Standard for Fire Prevention and Control in Metal/Nonmetal Mining and Metal MineralProcessing Facilities, 2010 2015 edition.

NFPA 820, Standard for Fire Protection in Wastewater Treatment and Collection Facilities, 2012 2016edition.

NFPA 2001, Standard on Clean Agent Fire Extinguishing Systems, 2012 2015 edition.




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3.3.20 Signal.

A status An indication of a condition communicated by electrical, visible, audible, wireless, or othermeans. [72, 2013 2016 ]


Submitter Full Name: JACQUELINE WILMOT

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This definition has been modified in 2016 edition of NFPA 72 and therefore updated in thisstandard in accordance with the NFPA Manual of Style.

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First Revision No. 18-NFPA 17-2015 [ Sections 4.3.1.5, 4.3.1.6 ]

4.3.2 Protective Devices for Discharge Nozzles.

4.3.2.1

Discharge nozzles shall be provided with blowoff caps or other suitable devices or materials to prevent theentrance of moisture, environmental contaminants, or other foreign materials into the piping.

4.3.2.2

The protective device shall blow off, blow open, or blow out upon agent discharge.




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The proposal is intended to clarify Section 4.3 on nozzles based upon comments received via theUL Standards Technical Panel (STP) on Extinguishing Systems, UL STP 300. The commentsreceived are available at csds.ul.com under the “UL 1254 Ed. 4 – Proposal Review – Opened2014-11-28,” Topic 2, “Nozzle protective covers.” The basic consensus of the STP was thatdischarge nozzle protective covers need not be made of noncombustible materials as referenced in4.3.1.3.

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Public Input No. 31-NFPA 17-2014 [Sections 4.3.1.5, 4.3.1.6]


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First Revision No. 7-NFPA 17-2015 [ Section No. 4.4.2.1 ]

4.4.2.1

Manual actuators shall not require a force of more than 40 lb lbf (178 N) to initiate operation .




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Committee Statement: Clarifies requirement.

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Public Input No. 18-NFPA 17-2014 [Section No. 4.4.2.1]


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First Revision No. 9-NFPA 17-2015 [ New Section after 4.5.4 ]

4.5.5

Previously installed piping shall not be permitted to be used in new fire-extinguishing systems unlessapproved by the authority having jurisdiction.




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Only new piping should be used in system installations. Used or previously abandoned pipeshould not be used on new fire extinguishing system installations unless approved by the AHJ.

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4.6.3*

Types Different types of dry chemical shall not be mixed.




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4.10 Indicators.

Dry chemical systems shall be provided with an audible or a visual indicator to show that the system is ina ready condition or is in need of recharging.




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Committee Statement: Revision to correlate with NFPA 17A Section 4.8.

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5.6.1.3

Safety items to be considered shall include, but not be limited to, the following:

(1) Personnel training

(2) Warning signs

(3) Predischarge alarms

(4) Discharge alarms

(5) Respiratory protection

(6) Emergency eye wash stations




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Emergency eye wash facilities should be added to the list of items that should be consideredwhen both planning and inspecting these facilities.

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5.9.1.9

Where the pipe or conduit penetrates a duct or , plenum, paint spray booth, hood, or other protectedareas, the penetration shall have a liquidtight continuous external weld or be sealed by a listed device.




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Committee Statement: All penetrations of the protected area enclosure need to be sealed.

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6.1.3

Where the total area of unclosable openings exceed exceeds 15 percent of the total enclosure surfacearea, a local application system shall be used to protect the entire hazard.




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Committee Statement: Revision provides clarification to the requirement.

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9.1.4

Used components shall not be permitted to be installed in new systems unless approved by theauthority having jurisdiction.




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The AHJ should be aware of used systems components being used in new installation andhave the authority to approve or disapprove of their use.

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Public Input No. 25-NFPA 17-2014 [New Section after 9.1]


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11.3.2.4

Fusible links manufactured more than 2 years prior to the installation date shall not be permitted to beinstalled.




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Only new system components or used system components that have been reconditionedand approved by the

AHJ for installation should be used.

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Public Input No. 26-NFPA 17-2014 [New Section after 11.3.2]


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11.3.3.4

Fixed temperature-sensing or rate-compensated thermal detection devices installed on mobileequipment that has been involved in a fire incident, that has been subjected to flame contact, or thatexhibits scorch marks or other signs of excessive temperature shall be replaced.




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Detection devices involved in a fire or subjected to excessive heat/torch have beencompromised and may not react to the next fire in a timely manner.

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Public Input No. 27-NFPA 17-2014 [New Section after 11.3.3]


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First Revision No. 23-NFPA 17-2015 [ Section No. A.11.3.2 ]

A.11.3.2

The date of manufacture marked on fusible metal alloy temperature-sensing elements does not limit as towhen they can be used. These devices have unlimited shelf life. The intent of 11.3.2 is to requirereplacement of fusible metal alloy sensing elements that have been installed for up to 1 year inenvironments subjecting them to contaminant loading, such as grease in restaurant hoods and ducts, thatcould adversely affect their proper operation.


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Only new system components or used system components that have been reconditioned andapproved by the AHJ for installation should be used. Related to PI#26.

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First Revision No. 4-NFPA 17-2015 [ Section No. B.1.1 ]

B.1.1 NFPA Publications.

National Fire Protection Association, 1 Batterymarch Park, Quincy, MA 02169-7471.

NFPA 10, Standard for Portable Fire Extinguishers, 2013 2017 edition.

NFPA 30, Flammable and Combustible Liquids Code, 2012 2015 edition.


NFPA 120, Standard for Fire Prevention and Control in Coal Mines, 2010 2015 edition.

NFPA 122, Standard for Fire Prevention and Control in Metal/Nonmetal Mining and Metal MineralProcessing Facilities, 2010 2015 edition.




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First Revision No. 21-NFPA 17-2015 [ Section No. B.1.2.1 ]

B.1.2.1 ASME Publications.

American Society of Mechanical Engineers, Three Two Park Avenue, New York, NY 10016-5990.

ANSI/ASME B31.1, Power Piping, 1998 2014 .




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Committee Statement: Updated reference to the latest edition in accordance with the NFPA Manual of Style.

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Public Input No. 28-NFPA 17-2014 [Chapter B]


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First Revision No. 5-NFPA 17-2015 [ Section No. B.1.2.2 ]

B.1.2.2 ASTM Publications.

ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959.

IEEE/ASTM SI 10, American National Standard for Use of the International System of Units (SI): TheModern Metric System Metric Practice , 1997 2010 .




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Public Input No. 28-NFPA 17-2014 [Chapter B]


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First Revision No. 6-NFPA 17-2015 [ Section No. B.3 ]

B.3 References for Extracts in Informational Sections.

NFPA 10, Standard for Portable Fire Extinguishers, 2013 2017 edition.




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First Revision No. 1-NFPA 17-2015 [ Section No. 2.2 ] · First Revision No. 1-NFPA 17-2015 ... Updated reference to the latest edition year in accordance with the NFPA Manual of Style