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Grown up Congenital Heart Grown up Congenital Heart Disease and the Paediatric Disease and the Paediatric Cardiologist Cardiologist Dr J Lawrenson Paediatric Cardiology Service of the Western Cape Workshop on Paediatric Cardiac Services in South Africa 22/11/2007

Grown up Congenital Heart Disease and the Paediatric Cardiologist Dr J Lawrenson Paediatric Cardiology Service of the Western Cape Workshop on Paediatric

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Grown up Congenital Heart Disease Grown up Congenital Heart Disease and the Paediatric Cardiologistand the Paediatric Cardiologist

Dr J Lawrenson

Paediatric Cardiology Service of the Western Cape

Workshop on Paediatric Cardiac Services in South Africa 22/11/2007

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Old jokeOld joke

• How many psychologists does it take to change a lightbulb?

• Just one – but the lightbulb must want to change!

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• Do you have a separate clinic for patients with CHD?

• Do you have a combined clinic with paeds?

• Given the clinical load do you think that you will ever have a separate CHD clinic?

• Do your specialists in training need extra training in CHD?

• Do you have an adult cardiologist with expertise in your unit?

QuestionsQuestions

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AnswersAnswers

• 6/7 questionnaires returned• 1 unit part-time expertise/1 unit ‘somatic’

knowledge• All recognised need for extra training• 1 unit had a separate clinic• All felt overwhelmed by load• 2 felt that combined clinics might be possible

in the future

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The loadThe load

• No idea • Data from Wren (Heart 2001) – 200

patients per 100 000 live births enter ACHD group every year – estimate for SA 1600

• 1300 ops per annum SA – 1/3 will need follow up – 400 patients

• Patients > 16 – low mortality rate – pool grows

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BurdensBurdens

• Complex physiology• Need for repeat operations• Emotional /intellectual issues• Poor understanding of disease• Poor understanding of need for follow-up

by patient• Different follow-up model – adult

colleagues

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Consequences of poor follow-upConsequences of poor follow-up

• Poor treatment of symptomatic patients-eg. Fallot’s presenting too late

• Poor advice concerning childbearing and contraception

• Poor advice to colleagues for non-cardiac anaesthesia risks

• Inappropriate insurance advice

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Follow-up by PaediatricianFollow-up by Paediatrician

• Continuity an advantage• Patient of 25 is a different being• Paed – only has a rough idea of other

cardiac issues/general medical issues (may be countered by experience)

• In State practice – practitioner forced to move patient to adult clinic

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Separate ACDH centres in SA?Separate ACDH centres in SA?

• Population – sufficient• European Review – 500 patients seen per

annum – opd; 42 ops; 50 admissions• Total numbers seen at GSH - 6000• Private practices vary – from IHD factories

to non-invasive to EP• Private – liaison with Adult cardiologist/EP

possible

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• Median 500 patients (100-2600)• 50 admissions (5-450)• 42 surgeries

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No ACHD centres/ who cares?No ACHD centres/ who cares?

• Adult cardiogists – trained to look after young/pregnant patients with valvular disease

• Adult CHD presenting in adulthood- not that difficult

• Poor understanding of post op/parallel circulation

• Transition – likely to remain a peripheral issue

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TransitionsTransitions

• Prepare early for transition – make formal plans

• A late transition may be beneficial (Reid et al Pediatrics 2004)

• Make the referral from adult to cardiac units easier (build trust; need good secretarial skills)

• National database/self carried paper record

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‘If all adolescents needing specialized adult care continued to receive pediatric care throughout adolescence and were provided clear, simple information regardingwhere and when they should go for adult follow-up, dramatic improvements in transfer may occur.’

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If dialogue fails, how about infiltration? If dialogue fails, how about infiltration? (How do we increase core knowledge?)(How do we increase core knowledge?)

• ‘Sleepers’ – EP specialists; MRI specialists

• Less subtle – surgeons!• Despite the time constraints – combined

clinics may be useful

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ConclusionConclusion

• We better do something – otherwise the benefits of years of hard work will be lost