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Mathematics of Roth Conversions, Stretch IRAs

and Life Insurance to Protect IRAs

Presented by:Robert S. Keebler, CPA, MST, DEPVirchow, Krause & Company, LLP1400 Lombardi AvenueSuite 200Green Bay, WI [email protected]

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22© 2007 Robert S. Keebler, CPA, [email protected](920)490-5626

• Why retirement planning is importantWhy retirement planning is important

• Required minimum distributionsRequired minimum distributions

• Stretch IRAsStretch IRAs

• Life insurance planning for IRAsLife insurance planning for IRAs

• Roth IRAsRoth IRAs

Course OutlineCourse Outline

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Why Retirement Why Retirement Distribution Planning Is Distribution Planning Is

ImportantImportant

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Perhaps one of the most important Perhaps one of the most important decisions a retiree must make is to decisions a retiree must make is to determine from which retirement assets determine from which retirement assets to withdraw funds to meet everyday to withdraw funds to meet everyday living expenses living expenses

Why Retirement Distribution Why Retirement Distribution Planning Is ImportantPlanning Is Important

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Decision factorsDecision factors

• Size of accountsSize of accounts

• Investment mix / performanceInvestment mix / performance

• Marginal income tax bracketMarginal income tax bracket

• Time horizonTime horizon

Why Retirement Distribution Why Retirement Distribution Planning Is ImportantPlanning Is Important

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OPTION 1 - Withdraw 100% From IRA

Husband's Age 64 65 66 67 68Wife's Age 59 60 61 62 63

ASSETS 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011IRABeginning Balance 1,300,000$ 1,216,000$ 1,127,620$ 1,034,553$ 936,472$ Income 7.00% 91,000 85,120 78,933 72,419 65,553 Distributions (175,000) (173,500) (172,000) (170,500) (169,000) Ending Balance 1,216,000$ 1,127,620$ 1,034,553$ 936,472$ 833,025$

Brokerage AccountBeginning Balance 1,400,000$ 1,474,010$ 1,551,707$ 1,633,325$ 1,719,113$ Yield (Interest & Dividends) 2.00% 28,000 29,480 31,034 32,667 34,382 Growth 5.00% 70,000 73,701 77,585 81,666 85,956 Subtotal 1,498,000$ 1,577,191$ 1,660,327$ 1,747,658$ 1,839,451$ Yield Disributed (28,000) (29,480) (31,034) (32,667) (34,382) Stock Sales - - - - - Net Cash Flow Reinvested 4,010 3,997 4,033 4,122 4,266 Ending Balance 1,474,010$ 1,551,707$ 1,633,325$ 1,719,113$ 1,809,335$

Total Assets 2,690,010$ 2,679,327$ 2,667,879$ 2,655,585$ 2,642,360$

CASH FLOW 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011IRA Distribution 175,000$ 173,500$ 172,000$ 170,500$ 169,000$ Interest & Dividends 28,000 29,480 31,034 32,667 34,382 Stock Sales Proceeds - - - - - Subtotal 203,000$ 202,980$ 203,034$ 203,167$ 203,382$ Less: Income Tax (66,990) (66,983) (67,001) (67,045) (67,116) Less: Living Expenses (132,000) (132,000) (132,000) (132,000) (132,000) Net Cash Flow 4,010$ 3,997$ 4,033$ 4,122$ 4,266$

Why Retirement Distribution Why Retirement Distribution Planning Is ImportantPlanning Is Important

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OPTION 2 - Withdraw 100% From Brokerage Account

Husband's Age 64 65 66 67 68Wife's Age 59 60 61 62 63

ASSETS 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011IRABeginning Balance 1,300,000$ 1,391,000$ 1,488,370$ 1,592,556$ 1,704,035$ Income 7.00% 91,000 97,370 104,186 111,479 119,282 Distributions - - - - - Ending Balance 1,391,000$ 1,488,370$ 1,592,556$ 1,704,035$ 1,823,317$

Brokerage AccountBeginning Balance 1,400,000$ 1,344,910$ 1,285,459$ 1,221,390$ 1,152,431$ Yield (Interest & Dividends) 2.00% 28,000 26,898 25,709 24,428 23,049 Growth 5.00% 70,000 67,245 64,273 61,070 57,622 Subtotal 1,498,000$ 1,439,053$ 1,375,441$ 1,306,887$ 1,233,101$ Yield Disributed (28,000) (26,898) (25,709) (24,428) (23,049) Stock Sales (130,000) (131,500) (133,000) (134,500) (136,000) Net Cash Flow Reinvested 4,910 4,803 4,659 4,472 4,238 Ending Balance 1,344,910$ 1,285,459$ 1,221,390$ 1,152,431$ 1,078,291$

Total Assets 2,735,910$ 2,773,829$ 2,813,946$ 2,856,466$ 2,901,608$

CASH FLOW 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011IRA Distribution -$ -$ -$ -$ -$ Interest & Dividends 28,000 26,898 25,709 24,428 23,049 Stock Sales Proceeds 130,000 131,500 133,000 134,500 136,000 Subtotal 158,000$ 158,398$ 158,709$ 158,928$ 159,049$ Less: Income Tax (21,090) (21,595) (22,051) (22,456) (22,810) Less: Living Expenses (132,000) (132,000) (132,000) (132,000) (132,000) Net Cash Flow 4,910$ 4,803$ 4,659$ 4,472$ 4,238$

Why Retirement Distribution Why Retirement Distribution Planning Is ImportantPlanning Is Important

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Total Assets

$-

$500,000

$1,000,000

$1,500,000

$2,000,000

$2,500,000

$3,000,000

$3,500,000

$4,000,000

$4,500,000

5 10 20 30

Year

100% IRA Distribution 100% Brokerage Account Distribution

Why Retirement Distribution Why Retirement Distribution Planning Is ImportantPlanning Is Important

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Required Minimum Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs)Distributions (RMDs)

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• Required Beginning Date (RBD): Generally, April 1 Required Beginning Date (RBD): Generally, April 1 of the year following the year the owner turns age of the year following the year the owner turns age 70½70½

• Once at RBD, required minimum distributions Once at RBD, required minimum distributions (RMD) must occur every year by December 31(RMD) must occur every year by December 31stst

Required Minimum Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs)Distributions (RMDs)

Required Beginning Date (RBD)Required Beginning Date (RBD)

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• RMDs are calculated based upon the RMDs are calculated based upon the aggregate prior year ending account aggregate prior year ending account balance divided by the applicable life balance divided by the applicable life expectancy factorexpectancy factor

Prior YearPrior Year12/31 Balance12/31 BalanceLife Expectancy Life Expectancy FactorFactor

RMD =RMD =

Calculation of RMDCalculation of RMD

Required Minimum Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs)Distributions (RMDs)

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• RMDs need not be taken from each IRA, RMDs need not be taken from each IRA, but rather the total RMD may be taken but rather the total RMD may be taken from any one of the IRAs, provided that the from any one of the IRAs, provided that the total RMD is taken.total RMD is taken.

– Treas. Reg. Treas. Reg. §1.408-8 Q&A 9§1.408-8 Q&A 9

Calculation of RMDCalculation of RMD

Required Minimum Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs)Distributions (RMDs)

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Uniform Lifetime TableUniform Lifetime TableAge Divisor Age Divisor Age Divisor

70 27.4 86 14.1 102 5.5

71 26.5 87 13.4 103 5.2

72 25.6 88 12.7 104 4.9

73 24.7 89 12.0 105 4.5

74 23.8 90 11.4 106 4.2

75 22.9 91 10.8 107 3.9

76 22.0 92 10.2 108 3.7

77 21.2 93 9.6 109 3.4

78 20.3 94 9.1 110 3.1

79 19.5 95 8.6 111 2.9

80 18.7 96 8.1 112 2.6

81 17.9 97 7.6 113 2.4

82 17.1 98 7.1 114 2.183 16.3 99 6.7 115 and older 1.9

84 15.5 100 6.385 14.8 101 5.9

Required Minimum Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs)Distributions (RMDs)

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Single Life TableSingle Life TableAge Divisor Age Divisor Age Divisor Age Divisor Age Divisor Age Divisor Age Divisor

0 82.4 16 66.9 32 51.4 48 36.0 64 21.8 80 10.2 96 3.8

1 81.6 17 66.0 33 50.4 49 35.1 65 21.0 81 9.7 97 3.6

2 80.6 18 65.0 34 49.4 50 34.2 66 20.2 82 9.1 98 3.4

3 79.7 19 64.0 35 48.5 51 33.3 67 19.4 83 8.6 99 3.1

4 78.7 20 63.0 36 47.5 52 32.3 68 18.6 84 8.1 100 2.9

5 77.7 21 62.1 37 46.5 53 31.4 69 17.8 85 7.6 101 2.7

6 76.7 22 61.1 38 45.6 54 30.5 70 17.0 86 7.1 102 2.5

7 75.8 23 60.1 39 44.6 55 29.6 71 16.3 87 6.7 103 2.3

8 74.8 24 59.1 40 43.6 56 28.7 72 15.5 88 6.3 104 2.1

9 73.8 25 58.2 41 42.7 57 27.9 73 14.8 89 5.9 105 1.9

10 72.8 26 57.2 42 41.7 58 27.0 74 14.1 90 5.5 106 1.7

11 71.8 27 56.2 43 40.7 59 26.1 75 13.4 91 5.2 107 1.5

12 70.8 28 55.3 44 39.8 60 25.2 76 12.7 92 4.9 108 1.4

13 69.9 29 54.3 45 38.8 61 24.4 77 12.1 93 4.6 109 1.2

14 68.9 30 53.3 46 37.9 62 23.5 78 11.4 94 4.3 110 1.1

15 67.9 31 52.4 47 37.0 63 22.7 79 10.8 95 4.1 111 1.0

Required Minimum Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs)Distributions (RMDs)

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Stretch IRAsStretch IRAs

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ObjectiveObjective: Prolong IRA payments : Prolong IRA payments over longest possible period of over longest possible period of time, thus increasing wealth to time, thus increasing wealth to future generationsfuture generations

Stretch IRAsStretch IRAs

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• An IRA is treated as “inherited” if the An IRA is treated as “inherited” if the individual for whose benefit the IRA is individual for whose benefit the IRA is maintained acquired the IRA on maintained acquired the IRA on account of the death of the original account of the death of the original owner.owner.

• Under the tax law the IRA assets can Under the tax law the IRA assets can be distributed based upon the life be distributed based upon the life expectancy of the beneficiary.expectancy of the beneficiary.

Stretch IRAsStretch IRAs

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• Two StrategiesTwo Strategies– Spousal RolloverSpousal Rollover– Inherited IRAInherited IRA

• Advantages Advantages – Rollover delays RMD until spouse’s own Rollover delays RMD until spouse’s own

RBDRBD– Inherited IRA provisions allow Inherited IRA provisions allow

beneficiary’s life expectancy to be used beneficiary’s life expectancy to be used for distributions after death of IRA ownerfor distributions after death of IRA owner

Stretch IRAsStretch IRAs

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• Marital deduction should be availableMarital deduction should be available• Typically the defaultTypically the default• If no rollover is chosen, then the life expectancy If no rollover is chosen, then the life expectancy

factor of spouse is used by reference to the factor of spouse is used by reference to the Single Life Table beginning in the year the IRA Single Life Table beginning in the year the IRA owner would have turned age 70owner would have turned age 70½. Each year ½. Each year thereafter the life expectancy divisor is thereafter the life expectancy divisor is recalculated by referencing the Single Life Table.recalculated by referencing the Single Life Table.

Spousal BeneficiarySpousal BeneficiaryStretch IRAsStretch IRAs

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• Exception to Inherited IRA rules.Exception to Inherited IRA rules.• Only available to surviving spouse.Only available to surviving spouse.• Allows spouse to roll over assets received Allows spouse to roll over assets received

as beneficiary to a new IRA in his/her own as beneficiary to a new IRA in his/her own name.name.

• Spouse’s age used to determine when Spouse’s age used to determine when required minimum distributions must begin.required minimum distributions must begin.

• Spouse may use the Uniform Lifetime Table Spouse may use the Uniform Lifetime Table to determine distributions.to determine distributions.

Spousal Beneficiary - RolloverSpousal Beneficiary - RolloverStretch IRAsStretch IRAs

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• Utilizes the exemption to the five year ruleUtilizes the exemption to the five year rule• Avoids IRA assets being subject to estate tax Avoids IRA assets being subject to estate tax

in spouse’s estatein spouse’s estate• Achieves Achieves ““Inherited IRAInherited IRA” ” to the degree that to the degree that

distributions occur over life expectancy of distributions occur over life expectancy of the designated beneficiarythe designated beneficiary

Child / Grandchild BeneficiaryChild / Grandchild BeneficiaryStretch IRAsStretch IRAs

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• Life expectancy of child and/or grandchild Life expectancy of child and/or grandchild determined in year after year of the IRA determined in year after year of the IRA owner’s death by reference to the Single Life owner’s death by reference to the Single Life Table and then is reduced by a value of one Table and then is reduced by a value of one each subsequent year.each subsequent year.

Stretch IRAsStretch IRAsChild / Grandchild BeneficiaryChild / Grandchild Beneficiary

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• Beginning in 2007, non-spousal beneficiaries Beginning in 2007, non-spousal beneficiaries (e.g. children, grandchildren, friends, etc.) are (e.g. children, grandchildren, friends, etc.) are permitted to roll over a qualified retirement plan permitted to roll over a qualified retirement plan (e.g. 401(k)), via a trustee-to-trustee transfer, (e.g. 401(k)), via a trustee-to-trustee transfer, into an “inherited” IRAinto an “inherited” IRA

• ““Designated beneficiary” trusts are also Designated beneficiary” trusts are also permitted to roll over qualified retirement plans permitted to roll over qualified retirement plans to “inherited” IRAsto “inherited” IRAs

• Notice 2007-7Notice 2007-7

Stretch IRAsStretch IRAsPension Protection Act of 2006Pension Protection Act of 2006

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• BenefitsBenefits– Effectively shows the additional wealth Effectively shows the additional wealth

generated by naming a qualified designated generated by naming a qualified designated beneficiary of an IRA beneficiary of an IRA

– Provides a framework as to how to structure Provides a framework as to how to structure the IRA Trustthe IRA Trust

– Serves as a guide for post-mortem Serves as a guide for post-mortem distributionsdistributions

Stretch IRAsStretch IRAsCase StudyCase Study

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• ScenariosScenarios– Immediate distributionImmediate distribution– IRA payable to non-qualified beneficiary IRA payable to non-qualified beneficiary

(five-year rule)(five-year rule)– IRA payable to surviving spouse IRA payable to surviving spouse

(no spousal rollover)(no spousal rollover)– IRA payable to surviving spouse IRA payable to surviving spouse

(spousal rollover)(spousal rollover)– IRA payable to childIRA payable to child– IRA payable to grandchildIRA payable to grandchild

Stretch IRAsStretch IRAsCase StudyCase Study

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• AssumptionsAssumptions– IRA owner’s age - 65IRA owner’s age - 65– Spouse’s age – 60 Spouse’s age – 60 – Child’s age – 35Child’s age – 35– Grandchild’s age - 10Grandchild’s age - 10

– IRA balance - $1,000,000IRA balance - $1,000,000– Brokerage account balance - $0 Brokerage account balance - $0

– Pre-tax growth rate – 8%Pre-tax growth rate – 8%– Ordinary income tax rate – 40%Ordinary income tax rate – 40%– Capital gains tax rate – 20% Capital gains tax rate – 20%

Stretch IRAsStretch IRAsCase StudyCase Study

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SummarySummary

YearImmediate Distribution

IRA Payable to Non-Qualified

Designated Beneficiary (i.e.

5-Year Rule)

IRA Payable to Surviving

Spouse (No Spousal Rollover)

IRA Payable to Surviving Spouse

(Spousal Rollover)

IRA Payable to Oldest Non-

Spousal Beneficiary

IRA Payable to Youngest Non-

Spousal Beneficiary

2007 643,200$ 1,080,000$ 1,080,000$ 1,080,000$ 1,080,000$ 1,080,000$ 2011 849,425$ 1,469,328$ 1,469,328$ 1,469,328$ 1,423,226$ 1,433,218$ 2016 1,202,539$ 1,248,084$ 1,948,200$ 2,101,979$ 2,002,522$ 2,036,421$ 2021 1,702,445$ 1,766,924$ 2,537,508$ 2,943,141$ 2,805,795$ 2,885,203$ 2026 2,410,166$ 2,501,450$ 3,228,176$ 4,100,369$ 3,913,063$ 4,075,163$ 2036 4,830,530$ 5,013,484$ 5,410,021$ 7,820,189$ 7,488,210$ 8,046,199$ 2046 9,681,500$ 10,048,183$ 10,842,933$ 14,479,672$ 13,945,755$ 15,631,736$

Stretch IRAsStretch IRAsCase StudyCase Study

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Summary – Year 10Summary – Year 10

IRA Transfer to Family(The Power of Deferral)

$1,000,000

$1,200,000

$1,400,000

$1,600,000

$1,800,000

$2,000,000

$2,200,000

Year 10

YearImmediate DistributionIRA Payable to Non-Qualified Designated Beneficiary (i.e. 5-Year Rule)IRA Payable to Surviving Spouse (No Spousal Rollover)IRA Payable to Surviving Spouse (Spousal Rollover)IRA Payable to Oldest Non-Spousal BeneficiaryIRA Payable to Youngest Non-Spousal Beneficiary

Stretch IRAsStretch IRAsCase StudyCase Study

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Summary – Year 20Summary – Year 20IRA Transfer to Family

(The Power of Deferral)

$2,000,000

$2,500,000

$3,000,000

$3,500,000

$4,000,000

$4,500,000

Year 20

YearImmediate DistributionIRA Payable to Non-Qualified Designated Beneficiary (i.e. 5-Year Rule)IRA Payable to Surviving Spouse (No Spousal Rollover)IRA Payable to Surviving Spouse (Spousal Rollover)

IRA Payable to Oldest Non-Spousal BeneficiaryIRA Payable to Youngest Non-Spousal Beneficiary

Stretch IRAsStretch IRAsCase StudyCase Study

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Summary – Year 30Summary – Year 30IRA Transfer to Family

(The Power of Deferral)

$4,500,000

$5,000,000

$5,500,000

$6,000,000

$6,500,000

$7,000,000

$7,500,000

$8,000,000

$8,500,000

Year 30

YearImmediate DistributionIRA Payable to Non-Qualified Designated Beneficiary (i.e. 5-Year Rule)IRA Payable to Surviving Spouse (No Spousal Rollover)IRA Payable to Surviving Spouse (Spousal Rollover)IRA Payable to Oldest Non-Spousal BeneficiaryIRA Payable to Youngest Non-Spousal Beneficiary

Stretch IRAsStretch IRAsCase StudyCase Study

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Summary – Year 40Summary – Year 40

IRA Transfer to Family(The Power of Deferral)

$8,500,000

$9,500,000

$10,500,000

$11,500,000

$12,500,000

$13,500,000

$14,500,000

$15,500,000

$16,500,000

Year 40

YearImmediate DistributionIRA Payable to Non-Qualified Designated Beneficiary (i.e. 5-Year Rule)IRA Payable to Surviving Spouse (No Spousal Rollover)IRA Payable to Surviving Spouse (Spousal Rollover)IRA Payable to Oldest Non-Spousal BeneficiaryIRA Payable to Youngest Non-Spousal Beneficiary

Stretch IRAsStretch IRAsCase StudyCase Study

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Life Insurance Planning Life Insurance Planning for IRAsfor IRAs

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Irrevocable Life Insurance Trust (ILIT)Irrevocable Life Insurance Trust (ILIT)

Annual “Crummey” gifts

Annual “Crummey” (right to withdraw) powers

Life Insurance Planning for IRAsLife Insurance Planning for IRAs

RMDsIRAIRA Insured/IRA Insured/IRA OwnerOwner

ILITILIT

BeneficiariesBeneficiaries

BeneficiariesBeneficiaries

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Annual “Crummey” giftsRMDsIRAIRA Insured/IRA Insured/IRA OwnerOwner

Dynasty ILITDynasty ILIT

Discretionary Distributions to Children for Life

Discretionary Distributions to Grandchildren for Life

Discretionary Distributions to Great-Grandchildren for Life

Discretionary Distributions to Future Generations for Life

Irrevocable Life Insurance Trust (ILIT)Irrevocable Life Insurance Trust (ILIT) Life Insurance Planning for IRAsLife Insurance Planning for IRAs

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Use of Loan to Pay Estate TaxUse of Loan to Pay Estate Tax

Loan Agreement

Lends Funds to the Estate/Trust

Estate or Estate or Revocable Revocable

TrustTrustILITILIT

FamilyFamilyFamilyFamily

Life Insurance Planning for IRAsLife Insurance Planning for IRAs

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Purchase of Assets to Pay Estate TaxPurchase of Assets to Pay Estate Tax

Assets of Estate

Purchase Price

© Virchow, Krause & Company, LLP

Estate or Estate or Revocable Revocable

TrustTrustILITILIT

FamilyFamilyFamilyFamily

Life Insurance Planning for IRAsLife Insurance Planning for IRAs

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• Tax Apportionment ClausesTax Apportionment Clauses

• Avoiding deemed distribution of IRAAvoiding deemed distribution of IRA

• Merger ClausesMerger Clauses

Life Insurance Planning for IRAsLife Insurance Planning for IRAs

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Roth IRAsRoth IRAs

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Roth IRAsRoth IRAs • 100% of growth is tax-exempt100% of growth is tax-exempt• No required minimum distributions at age 70½No required minimum distributions at age 70½

– NOTE: Distributions from Roth IRAs NOTE: Distributions from Roth IRAs cannotcannot be used be used to fulfill the RMD from a traditional IRAto fulfill the RMD from a traditional IRA

• $100,000 Modified Adjusted Gross Income $100,000 Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI) limitation (MAGI) limitation

• RMDs on Inherited Roth IRAsRMDs on Inherited Roth IRAs• Roth 401(k) plansRoth 401(k) plans

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Roth IRAsRoth IRAs

• Starting in 2010, the $100,000 Adjusted Starting in 2010, the $100,000 Adjusted Gross Income (AGI) limitation no longer Gross Income (AGI) limitation no longer appliesapplies– The taxable income recognized on a Roth IRA The taxable income recognized on a Roth IRA

conversion in 2010 may be spread over the conversion in 2010 may be spread over the following two tax years (i.e. 2011 and 2012)following two tax years (i.e. 2011 and 2012)

• Married Filing Separately taxpayers can Married Filing Separately taxpayers can convert to a Roth IRAconvert to a Roth IRA

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Computation of MAGI - New Rule (Conversions After 12/31/2004)Adjusted Gross Income $XX,XXXLess:

Income from Roth Conversion ($XX,XXX)Required Minimum Distribution (IRAs Only) (XX,XXX) (XX,XXX)

Add-in:Traditional IRA Deduction $X,XXXStudent Loan Interest X,XXXTuition & Fee Deduction X,XXXForeign Income/Housing Exclusion X,XXXForeign Housing Deduction X,XXXExclusion of Interest on U.S. Series EE Savings Bonds X,XXX XX,XXX

Modified Adjusted Gross Income (Must be less than $100,000) $XX,XXX

Roth IRAsRoth IRAs

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Roth IRAsRoth IRAs • The 5-year period for all of a participant’s Roth The 5-year period for all of a participant’s Roth

IRAs begins on January 1 of the first year for IRAs begins on January 1 of the first year for which a contribution was made to any Roth IRA which a contribution was made to any Roth IRA owned by that participant.owned by that participant.– Except a surviving spouse gets to treat an inherited Except a surviving spouse gets to treat an inherited

Roth IRA as one of her own for purposes of the 5-Roth IRA as one of her own for purposes of the 5-year rule. year rule.

– The 5-year period continues to run with the The 5-year period continues to run with the participant dies.participant dies.• If a participant dies within the 5-year period, If a participant dies within the 5-year period,

distributions to a beneficiary are taxable until the 5-distributions to a beneficiary are taxable until the 5-year period ends.year period ends.

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QualifiedQualified distributions are distributions are not subject to income taxnot subject to income tax

Non-qualifiedNon-qualified distributions distributions will be subject to income taxwill be subject to income tax

Roth IRAsRoth IRAs Taxation of DistributionsTaxation of Distributions

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• Basis Can be Withdrawn Tax-Free (FIFO Basis Can be Withdrawn Tax-Free (FIFO Method)Method)

• Distributions are not subject to income Distributions are not subject to income tax if they do not exceed aggregate tax if they do not exceed aggregate contributions and/or conversions to the contributions and/or conversions to the Roth IRA.Roth IRA.

Roth IRAsRoth IRAs Taxation of DistributionsTaxation of Distributions

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(1)(1) Taxpayers have special favorable tax Taxpayers have special favorable tax attributes including charitable deduction attributes including charitable deduction

carry-forwards, investment tax credits, carry-forwards, investment tax credits, etc. etc.

(2) Suspension of the minimum distribution (2) Suspension of the minimum distribution rules at age 70½ provides a rules at age 70½ provides a

considerable considerable advantage to the Roth IRA advantage to the Roth IRA holder.holder.

Roth IRAsRoth IRAs Seven Reasons Why to Convert to a Roth IRASeven Reasons Why to Convert to a Roth IRA

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(3) Taxpayers benefit from paying income (3) Taxpayers benefit from paying income tax tax before estate tax (when a Roth IRA before estate tax (when a Roth IRA election election is made) compared to the is made) compared to the income tax income tax deduction obtained when a deduction obtained when a traditional traditional IRA is subject to estate tax.IRA is subject to estate tax.

(4) Taxpayers who can pay the income tax (4) Taxpayers who can pay the income tax on the IRA from non IRA funds benefit on the IRA from non IRA funds benefit greatly from the Roth IRA because of greatly from the Roth IRA because of the ability to enjoy greater tax-free the ability to enjoy greater tax-free

yields.yields.

Roth IRAsRoth IRAs Seven Reasons Why to Convert to a Roth IRASeven Reasons Why to Convert to a Roth IRA

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(5) Taxpayers who need to use IRA assets to (5) Taxpayers who need to use IRA assets to fund their Unified Credit bypass trust fund their Unified Credit bypass trust

are are well advised to consider making a Roth well advised to consider making a Roth IRA election for that portion of their IRA election for that portion of their

overall IRA funds. overall IRA funds. (6) Taxpayers making the Roth IRA election (6) Taxpayers making the Roth IRA election

during their lifetime reduce their overall during their lifetime reduce their overall estate, thereby lowering the effect of estate, thereby lowering the effect of higher estate tax rates. higher estate tax rates.

Roth IRAsRoth IRAs Seven Reasons Why to Convert to a Roth IRASeven Reasons Why to Convert to a Roth IRA

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(7) Because federal tax brackets are more (7) Because federal tax brackets are more favorable for married couples filing joint favorable for married couples filing joint returns than for single individuals, Roth returns than for single individuals, Roth IRA IRA distributions won’t cause an increase distributions won’t cause an increase in in tax rates for the surviving spouse when tax rates for the surviving spouse when one one spouse is deceased because the spouse is deceased because the distributions are tax-free.distributions are tax-free.

Roth IRAsRoth IRAs Seven Reasons Why to Convert to a Roth IRASeven Reasons Why to Convert to a Roth IRA

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Estate Tax First Income Tax FirstTraditional IRA Roth IRA

IRA Balance 2,500,000$ 2,500,000$ Less: Federal & State Income Taxes @ 40% - (1,000,000) Subtotal 2,500,000$ 1,500,000$ Less: Federal Estate Tax @ 45% (1,125,000) (675,000) Less: State Estate Tax @ 10% (250,000) (150,000) Subtotal 1,125,000$ 675,000$

IRA Balance 2,500,000$ Less: IRC §691(c) Deduction* (1,125,000) Subtotal 1,375,000$ Less: Federal & State Income Taxes @ 40% (550,000)

Net Wealth to Family 575,000$ 675,000$

* NOTE: Under IRC §691(c), a deduction is allowed ONLY for federal estate taxes paid.* NOTE: Under IRC §691(c), a deduction is allowed ONLY for federal estate taxes paid.

Roth IRAsRoth IRAs Advantage of Paying Income Tax on a Roth Advantage of Paying Income Tax on a Roth

IRA Conversion Before Incurring an Estate TaxIRA Conversion Before Incurring an Estate Tax

PROOF: ($2,500,000 - $1,500,000) x 10% state estate tax = $100,000

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Roth IRAsRoth IRAs Understanding the MechanicsUnderstanding the Mechanics

In simplest terms, a traditional IRA will produce In simplest terms, a traditional IRA will produce the same after-tax result as a Roth IRA provided the same after-tax result as a Roth IRA provided that:that:– The annual growth rates are the sameThe annual growth rates are the same

– The tax rate in the conversion year is the same The tax rate in the conversion year is the same as the tax rate during the withdrawal yearsas the tax rate during the withdrawal years

(i.e. A x B x C = D; A x C x B = D)(i.e. A x B x C = D; A x C x B = D)

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Roth IRAsRoth IRAs Understanding the MechanicsUnderstanding the Mechanics

Traditional IRA Roth IRA2007 Account Balance 100,000$ 100,000$ Less: Income Taxes @ 40% - (40,000) Net Balance 100,000$ 60,000$

Growth Until Death 300.00% 300.00%

Account Balance @ Death 300,000$ 180,000$ Less: Income Taxes @ 40% (120,000) - Net Account Balance to Family 180,000$ 180,000$

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Roth IRAsRoth IRAs

• Critical decision factorsCritical decision factors– Tax rate differentialTax rate differential

• Year of conversion vs. withdrawal yearsYear of conversion vs. withdrawal years

– Use of “outside funds” (i.e. non-qualified Use of “outside funds” (i.e. non-qualified retirement accounts) to pay the retirement accounts) to pay the

income income tax liabilitytax liability– Time horizonTime horizon– IRC IRC §691(c) “effect”§691(c) “effect”

Understanding the MechanicsUnderstanding the Mechanics

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Roth IRAsRoth IRAs

• The key to successful Roth IRA The key to successful Roth IRA conversions is to keep as much of the conversions is to keep as much of the conversion income as possible in the conversion income as possible in the current marginal tax bracketcurrent marginal tax bracket

– However, there are times when it may make However, there are times when it may make sense to convert more and go into higher tax sense to convert more and go into higher tax bracketsbrackets

Understanding the MechanicsUnderstanding the Mechanics

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Roth IRAsRoth IRAs

SingleMarried Filing

JointlyHead of

Household

10% $7,825 $15,650 $10,750

15% $31,850 $63,700 $42,650

25% $77,100 $128,500 $110,100

28% $160,850 $195,850 $178,350

33% $349,700 $349,700 $349,700

35% > $349,700 > $349,700 > $349,700

Understanding the MechanicsUnderstanding the MechanicsTax BracketsTax Brackets

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Roth IRAsRoth IRAs

10% tax 10% tax bracketbracket

15% tax 15% tax bracketbracket

25% tax 25% tax bracketbracket

28% tax 28% tax bracketbracket

33% tax 33% tax bracketbracket

Understanding the MechanicsUnderstanding the Mechanics

35% tax 35% tax bracketbracket

Current Current taxable taxable incomeincome

Target Roth IRA Target Roth IRA conversion amountconversion amount

Optimum Roth IRA Optimum Roth IRA conversion amountconversion amount

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Roth IRAsRoth IRAs Understanding the Mechanics – Case StudyUnderstanding the Mechanics – Case Study

After-Tax Investment Balance(Tax Rates Remain the Same)

$1,876,612

$2,574,142

$3,533,970

$1,876,612

$2,574,142

$3,533,970

$1,967,151

$2,759,032

$3,869,684

10 15 20

Year

Traditional IRARoth IRA Conversion (Pay Tax w/Roth IRA)Roth IRA Conversion (Pay Tax w/Outside Account)

ASSUMPTIONSIRA Owner's Age 50

IRA Balance 1,000,000$ Outside Account Balance 400,000$

Yield Rate 2.00%Growth Rate 6.00%Total Return (Pre-Tax) 8.00%Less: Income Tax on Yield @ 40% -0.80%Less: Income Tax on Growth @ 20%* -0.60%Total Return (After-Tax) 6.60%

Tax Rate - Current Year 40.00%Tax Rate - Future Years 40.00%

* Assumes 50% annual turnover on growth

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Roth IRAsRoth IRAs Understanding the Mechanics – Case StudyUnderstanding the Mechanics – Case Study

After-Tax Investment Balance(Lower Tax Rates in Future Years)

$2,269,183

$3,263,840

$4,698,834

$2,053,290

$2,946,623

$4,232,738

$2,158,925

$3,172,169

$4,660,957

10 15 20

Year

Traditional IRARoth IRA Conversion (Pay Tax w/Roth IRA)Roth IRA Conversion (Pay Tax w/Outside Account)

ASSUMPTIONSIRA Owner's Age 50

IRA Balance 1,000,000$ Outside Account Balance 400,000$

Yield Rate 2.00%Growth Rate 6.00%Total Return (Pre-Tax) 8.00%Less: Income Tax on Yield @ 40% -0.80%Less: Income Tax on Growth @ 20%* -0.60%Total Return (After-Tax) 6.60%

Tax Rate - Current Year 40.00%Tax Rate - Future Years 30.00%

* Assumes 50% annual turnover on growth

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Roth IRAsRoth IRAs Understanding the Mechanics – Case StudyUnderstanding the Mechanics – Case Study

After-Tax Investment Balance(Higher Tax Rates in Future Years)

$2,053,290

$2,946,623

$4,232,738

$2,269,183

$3,263,840

$4,698,834

$2,348,409

$3,432,999

$5,019,998

10 15 20

Year

Traditional IRARoth IRA Conversion (Pay Tax w/Roth IRA)Roth IRA Conversion (Pay Tax w/Outside Account)

ASSUMPTIONSIRA Owner's Age 50

IRA Balance 1,000,000$ Outside Account Balance 400,000$

Yield Rate 2.00%Growth Rate 6.00%Total Return (Pre-Tax) 8.00%Less: Income Tax on Yield @ 40% -0.80%Less: Income Tax on Growth @ 20%* -0.60%Total Return (After-Tax) 6.60%

Tax Rate - Current Year 30.00%Tax Rate - Future Years 40.00%

* Assumes 50% annual turnover on growth

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Roth IRAsRoth IRAs Tactical ConsiderationsTactical Considerations

• Utilize unused charitable contribution Utilize unused charitable contribution carryoverscarryovers

• Offset current year ordinary lossesOffset current year ordinary losses• Utilize current year Net Operating Losses Utilize current year Net Operating Losses

(NOL) or carryovers from prior years(NOL) or carryovers from prior years• Utilize Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) Utilize Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT)

carryoverscarryovers

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• Taxpayers may recharacterize (i.e. “undo”) the Roth IRA Taxpayers may recharacterize (i.e. “undo”) the Roth IRA conversion in current year or by the filing date of the current conversion in current year or by the filing date of the current year’s tax returnyear’s tax return

- - Recharacterization can take place as late as 10/15 in the year Recharacterization can take place as late as 10/15 in the year following the year of conversion following the year of conversion

• Taxpayers may choose to “reconvert” their recharacterizationTaxpayers may choose to “reconvert” their recharacterization- Reconversion may only take place at the later of the - Reconversion may only take place at the later of the

following two dates:following two dates:(1) The tax year following the original conversion (1) The tax year following the original conversion OROR(2) 30 days after the recharacterization(2) 30 days after the recharacterization

Roth IRAsRoth IRAs Tactical ConsiderationsTactical Considerations

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Conversion Period Recharacterization Period

1/1/2007 – First day conversion can

take place

2007

12/31/2007 – Last day conversion can

take place

4/15/2008 – Normal filing date for 2007 tax return

/ last day to recharacterize 2007 Roth IRA

conversion

10/15/2008 – Latest filing date

for 2007 tax return / last day to

recharacterize 2007 Roth IRA

conversion

12/31/2008

2008

Roth IRAsRoth IRAs Roth IRA Conversion TimetableRoth IRA Conversion Timetable

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