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NEOPLASIE TORACICHE POSTIASLC: UPDATES DA SIDNEY Lucca, 2728 Novembre 2013 Mesotelioma Pleurico Maligno INTERVENTIONAL DIAGNOSTICS INTERVENTIONAL DIAGNOSTICS FRANCESCO FACCIOLO Department of Surgical Oncology Division of Thoracic Surgery National Cancer Institute “Regina Elena”, Rome

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NEOPLASIE TORACICHEPOST‐IASLC: UPDATES DA SIDNEY

Lucca, 27‐28 Novembre 2013

Mesotelioma Pleurico Maligno

INTERVENTIONAL DIAGNOSTICSINTERVENTIONAL DIAGNOSTICS

FRANCESCO FACCIOLODepartment of Surgical Oncology

Division of Thoracic SurgeryNational Cancer Institute “Regina Elena”, Rome

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WHAT IS THE GOAL?WHAT IS THE GOAL?

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• TO ADDRESS THE APPROPRIATE TREATMENT• TO ADDRESS THE APPROPRIATE TREATMENT

– SECURE / ACCURATE ANATOMOPATHOLOGICAL DIAGNOSIS

– STAGING / ASSESSMENT OF SURGICAL INDICATIONSS G G / SS SS O SU G C C O S

– COLLECTION OF ADEQUATE BIOLOGICAL TISSUE

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WHAT ARE THE INSTRUMENTS?WHAT ARE THE INSTRUMENTS?

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• STAGING / COLLECTION OF BIOLOGICAL TISSUE

– MEDIASTINAL NODES/ EBUS; EUS; CERVICAL MEDIASTINOSCOPY; EXTENDED MEDIASTINOSCOPY; ANTERIOR MEDIASTINOTOMY

– PLEURAE/ VATS; EXTRAPLEURAL MINITHORACOTOMY U / S; U O CO O(BIOPSIES)

PERITONEAL CAVITY/ LAPAROSCOPY; PERITONEAL– PERITONEAL CAVITY/ LAPAROSCOPY; PERITONEAL LAVAGE AND CYTOLOGY

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WHAT ARE THE RULES?WHAT ARE THE RULES?

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UPDATED GUIDELINES FOR PATHOLOGICAL DIAGNOSIS OF MPM FROM IMIG (EXCERPT)DIAGNOSIS OF MPM FROM IMIG (EXCERPT):

•ADEQUATE BIOPSIES/ LESS COMMONLY: CYTOLOGY, EXFOLIATIVE AND FNA

•CYTOLOGY/ ADEQUATE FLUID AMOUNT FOR CELL-BLOCKS OR SMEARS

•MORPHOLOGIC FEATURES AND NUCLEAR GRADE TO PREDICT SURVIVAL/ CYTOLOGIC DIAGNOSIS OF “MPM EPITHELIOID TYPE”SURVIVAL/ CYTOLOGIC DIAGNOSIS OF “MPM EPITHELIOID TYPE” MIGHT BE NOT SUFFICIENT IN THE FUTURE

APART FROM DIAGNOSTIC DIFFICULTIES/ THE FREQUENT•APART FROM DIAGNOSTIC DIFFICULTIES/ THE FREQUENT PRACTICE OF LITIGATION IN CASES OF MM MAKES PATHOLOGISTS RELUCTANT TO DIAGNOSE MESOTHELIOMA WITHOUT HISTOLOGIC CONFIRMATORY EVIDENCEWITHOUT HISTOLOGIC CONFIRMATORY EVIDENCE

HUSAIN AN ET AL. - ARCH PATHOL LAB MED 2012

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VATS – MINITHORACOTOMY/ INDICATIONS

•VATS/ PROCEDURE OF CHOICE WHEN POSSIBLE; DIRECT INSPECTION; MULTIPLE BIOPSIES MULTIPLE SITES; PALLIATIONINSPECTION; MULTIPLE BIOPSIES, MULTIPLE SITES; PALLIATION

•EXTRAPLEURAL MINITHORACOTOMY/ OBLITERATION OF THE PLEURAL SPACE; CONTRAINDICATION TO GENERAL ANESTHESIA;PLEURAL SPACE; CONTRAINDICATION TO GENERAL ANESTHESIA; PREDETERMINED INOPERABILITY

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IS THERE ANYTHING MORE TO SAY?

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THOROUGH INVASIVE ASSESSMENT – 1/ EVIDENCE FOR

•NODAL STATUS – 1/ BETTER PROGNOSIS FOR N0 COMPARED TO N+ EXCLUSION OF N3 DISEASETO N+; EXCLUSION OF N3 DISEASE

•NODAL STATUS – 2/ EBUS AND EUS MAY YIELD UP TO 36%NODAL STATUS 2/ EBUS AND EUS MAY YIELD UP TO 36% MORE POSITIVE NODES IN CLINICAL N0 DISEASE

•PERITONEAL DISEASE/ UP TO 44% OF POSITIVE PERITONEAL LAVAGE REPORTED IN EXTENDED PREOPERATIVE ASSESSMENT PROTOCOLS

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THOROUGH INVASIVE ASSESSMENT – 2/ CONCERNS

•NODAL STATUS – 1/ N+ BEHAVIOUR IN MPM DIFFERS FROM NSCLC:HOW TO INTERPRET POSITIVE RESULTS FROM MEDIASTINAL ASSESSMENT?

•NODAL STATUS – 2/ EBUS AND EUS RESULTS RELY ON NEEDLE ASPIRATION CYTOLOGY: NOT TO BE USED TO ACHIEVE AN INITIAL DIAGNOSIS OF MPM SHOULD BE PRECEDED BYINITIAL DIAGNOSIS OF MPM – SHOULD BE PRECEDED BY PLEURAL BIOPSIES

•NODAL STATUS – 3/ NEGATIVE EBUS AND EUS SHOULD BE FOLLOWED BY INVASIVE MEDIASTINAL ASSESSMENT

•PERITONEAL ASSESSMENT/ PATIENT’S COMPLIANCE??

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SURGICAL CONSIDERATIONS – VATS/ 1

•ASSESSMENT OF OPERABILITY/ CARDIOPHRENIC ANGLE; PERICARDIAL INVOLVEMENT; MEDIASTINAL INFILTRATIONPERICARDIAL INVOLVEMENT; MEDIASTINAL INFILTRATION

•PLEURAL TALCAGE/ PRELIMINARY TO MAJOR SURGERY; RESOLUTION OF SYMPTOMSRESOLUTION OF SYMPTOMS

•PLEURAL BIOPSIES/ RESPECT ENDOTHORACIC FASCIA; MULTIPLE SITES ADEQUATE HISTOLOGIC SPECIMENSMULTIPLE SITES; ADEQUATE HISTOLOGIC SPECIMENS

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SURGICAL CONSIDERATIONS – VATS/ 2

•VATS/ SHOULD BE PREFERABLY PERFORMED BY THE SAME SURGEON UNDERTAKING MAJOR SURGERY (WHEN NOTSURGEON UNDERTAKING MAJOR SURGERY (WHEN NOT EXCLUDED)

VATS/ THORACOPORTS ACCESSES SHOULD LIE ON THE LINE OF•VATS/ THORACOPORTS ACCESSES SHOULD LIE ON THE LINE OF FUTURE THORACOTOMY

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FUTURE DIRECTIONS?

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NEW PERSPECTIVES

•SURGERY IS NO MORE JUST A MATTER OF SURGERY – 1/INTERVENTIONAL DIAGNOSIS NEEDED TO OBTAIN ADEQUATE TISSUE FOR MOLECULAR ANALYSESTISSUE FOR MOLECULAR ANALYSES

•SURGERY IS NO MORE JUST A MATTER OF SURGERY – 2/ IN VITRO COLTURES OF NEOPLASTIC CELLS USEFUL TO PREDICTVITRO COLTURES OF NEOPLASTIC CELLS USEFUL TO PREDICT CHEMOSENSITIVITY*

SURGERY IS NO MORE JUST A MATTER OF SURGERY 3/ IN•SURGERY IS NO MORE JUST A MATTER OF SURGERY – 3/ IN VITRO COLTURES OF NEOPLASTIC STEM CELLS

•SURGERY IS NO MORE JUST A MATTER OF SURGERY – 4/ NEW TRENDS IN TRANSLATIONAL RESEARCH: IDENTIFICATION OF NEW GENOMIC MARKERS ISOLATED FROM THE PRIMARY TUMOR THAT CAN BE FOUND IN PERIPHERAL BLOOD

* our experience reported in Canino C, et al. Oncogene 2011

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HARD TIMES?

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WALLS SHRINKING?

•RECENT TRENDS IN LITERATURE/ WILLING TO REDUCE THE FIELD OF INDICATIONS FOR RADICAL SURGERY IN MPM (ESPECIALLY FOROF INDICATIONS FOR RADICAL SURGERY IN MPM (ESPECIALLY FOR EPP) – M.A.R.S., M.A.R.S. 2 AND OTHER RECENTS SERIES (E.G.: LANDZUDSKY’S)

•CHAIN EFFECT/ THESE WORKS ARE DESTINED TO AFFECT THE INDICATIONS TO INTERVENTIONAL DIAGNOSTICS AS WELL

•WHAT SHOULD BE THE SURGEON’S ATTITUDE TOWARDS PATIENTS WITH MPM?/ PROPOSING A HEAVY BURDEN OF INVASIVE DIAGNOSTICS BUT EXCLUDING MAJOR SURGERY?

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DIAGNOSTIC PATH

resulting therapeutic options

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MORE SURGERY! LESS SURGERY!MORE SURGERY!

•HISTOLOGIC DIAGNOSISMORE TISSUE!

LESS SURGERY!

•EPPPOSSIBLY HARMFUL!MORE TISSUE!

•DETERMINATION OF SUBTYPESMORE TISSUE!

POSSIBLY HARMFUL!

•EXTENDED P/DMAYBE NOT RADICAL!MORE TISSUE!

•MOLECULAR ANALYSESMORE TISSUE!

MAYBE NOT RADICAL!

•MAJORITY OF SUBTYPESMAYBE NOT AFFECTED BYMORE TISSUE!

•STAGINGMULTIPLE BIOPSIES,

MAYBE NOT AFFECTED BY SURGERY!

•LEGAL LITIGATIONS!,DIRECT EXPLORATION,

MEDIASTINAL ASSESSMENT!

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WHAT TO DO?

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CONCLUSIONS/ 1

•INVASIVE DIAGNOSTICS/ ARE MANDATORY IN A DISEASE AS COMPLEX AS MALIGNANT PLEURAL MESOTHELIOMACOMPLEX AS MALIGNANT PLEURAL MESOTHELIOMA

•COST-BENEFIT EVALUATION/ MUST BE MADE BETWEEN DIAGNOSTIC AGGRESSIVENESS AND INTENSITY OF FOLLOWINGDIAGNOSTIC AGGRESSIVENESS AND INTENSITY OF FOLLOWING TREATMENT

NEW PERSPECTIVES/ RELY ON WIDE AVALAIBILITY OF•NEW PERSPECTIVES/ RELY ON WIDE AVALAIBILITY OF BIOLOGICAL SAMPLES, THUS INVOLVING SURGEONS, RATHER THAN SUPERSEDING THEM

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CONCLUSIONS/ 2

•SURGERY FOR MPM/DEFINITIVE POSITIONS ON MAJOR SURGERY (EPP) SHOULD BE TAKEN CAUTIOUSLY: MORE ACCURATE (= INVASIVE?) DIAGNOSTICS SHOULD LEAD TO MORE ACCURATE PATIENTS’ SELECTION, RATHER THAN TO EXCLUSION OF SURGERY.

•KEYWORDS TO MAJOR SURGERY FOR MPM/•KEYWORDS TO MAJOR SURGERY FOR MPM/• SELECTION• SELECTION• SELECTION

AND…• SELECTION

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THANK YOUTHANK YOU