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Reinagel lectures 2006 Take home message about LGN 1. Lateral geniculate nucleus transmits information from retina to cortex 2. It is not known what computation if any occurs in the LGN 3. For white noise stimuli, responses are precise and reliable 4. PRECISION is the trial to trial jitter in spike TIMING (order 1msec) feed forward inhibition may be the mechanism of precise timing 5. RELIABILITY is the trial to trial variability in spike NUMBER (subpoisson) refractoriness may be the mechanism of reliable spike count 6. BURSTING in the LGN is a distinct biophysical phenomenon, of unknown importance. The *right* question to ask is whether the bursting state is visually primed and whether priming itself encodes information 7. We now have a visually behaving rodent prep to address all these questions Take home message about efficient coding 1. Natural scenes are full of spatial and temporal correlations 2. This suggests WHY center-surround RF's are GOOD: redundancy reduction 2. Test: LGN responses to natural scenes are decorrelated (whitened) 3. More generally: are natural scenes optimal stimuli? is this even the right question? www-biology.ucsd.edu/labs/reinagel/

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Reinagel lectures 2006

Take home message about LGN1. Lateral geniculate nucleus transmits information from retina to cortex2. It is not known what computation if any occurs in the LGN3. For white noise stimuli, responses are precise and reliable4. PRECISION is the trial to trial jitter in spike TIMING (order 1msec)

feed forward inhibition may be the mechanism of precise timing5. RELIABILITY is the trial to trial variability in spike NUMBER (subpoisson)

refractoriness may be the mechanism of reliable spike count6. BURSTING in the LGN is a distinct biophysical phenomenon, of unknown

importance. The *right* question to ask is whether the burstingstate is visually primed and whether priming itself encodes information

7. We now have a visually behaving rodent prep to address all these questions

Take home message about efficient coding1. Natural scenes are full of spatial and temporal correlations2. This suggests WHY center-surround RF's are GOOD: redundancy reduction2. Test: LGN responses to natural scenes are decorrelated (whitened)3. More generally: are natural scenes optimal stimuli?

is this even the right question?

www-biology.ucsd.edu/labs/reinagel/

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LGN

Retina

Cortex

Ramon y Cajal

Hubel 1960 (alert cat)Hubel & Wiesel 1961 (anesthetized)

Lateral Geniculate Nucleus

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• spiking inputs• intrinsic properties• local circuits• cortical feedback

Gating? Attention? Binding? Prediction testing? Nothing?

What happens in the LGN?

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LGN

Retina

Cortex

Reinagel & Reid 2000

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LGN response to purely temporal stimuli

Lum

inance

Repeat

Reinagel & Reid, 2000

Descriptive questions:• how precise is the timing?• how reliable is the number?• are there internal patterns?

In each case:• visual information?• mechanism of encoding?• mechanism of decoding?

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PSTH peaks are milliseconds wide

Reinagel & Reid, 2002

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Reinagel & Reid 2002

Temporal patterns conserved across animals

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Precision of spike times used (ms)

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Theory of Shannon, 1948Method of Strong et al., 1998Result of Reinagel & Reid, 2000

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Mechanisms Underlying Precise Timing

Pouille & Scanzian 2001

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Mean 4Variance 0

Mean 4Variance 4

Deterministic Poisson

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Spike Count: Trial to Trial Variability

Variance in Spike #Mean Spike #

Random Deterministic(Poisson)

= 1 = 0

Measure of variability

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PSTH

LGN vs. Poisson Model

PSTH

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Variability increases from retina to cortexF

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Kara, Reinagel & Reid, 2000

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FF

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When firing rate is high, variability is low

Kara, Reinagel & Reid, 2000

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Refractoriness Regularizes?

PSTH

Poisson model

Poisson withRefractory Period

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Estimating refractoriness from data

Method:Berry & Meister1998

model

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absolute andrelativerefractoriness

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Refractory models for all cell types

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Kara, Reinagel & Reid, 2000

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Variability increases from retina to cortexF

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Kara, Reinagel & Reid, 2000

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Refractoriness decreasesfrom retina to cortex

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Kara, Reinagel & Reid, 2000

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Summary of Reliability

• Spike count has sub-Poisson variability

• High FR High Reliability

• Refractoriness completely explains

• Noise is low, but doubling each synapse

- firing rate is decreasing

- refractoriness is decreasing

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Thalamic Bursts (It)

Jahnsen and Llinas (1984)

Hubel and Wiesel (1961)

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Bursting in the LGN

• dominate during sleep, when vision is suppressed

• frequent under anesthesia, when vision is absent

• almost never seen in alert animals, when vision is happening

ERGO

Bursts are irrelevant to vision

• not rhythmic or synchronous in anesthetized animals

• visual in anesthetized animals

• synapses prefer bursts

• do occur in alert animals, and rare signals can be important

• cool computational ideas

ERGO

Bursts are crucial to vision

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-0.6 -0.4 -0.2 0

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Before a burst

Before a tonic spike

Optimal Guess of Stimulus

Visual inputs trigger bursts

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Burst BurstTonic Tonic

Reinagel, Godwin, Sherman & Koch 1999

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Bursts: Triggering vs. Priming

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Bursts in LGN are distinct code words

Denning & Reinagel 2005

Alitto, Weyand & Usrey 2005 Lesica & Stanley 2004

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Summary: Bursting• LGN neurons have 2 states

• Visual inputs trigger responses in both states

• Visual inputs also control the state

BUT All this is under anesthesia

What about alert?

- Stimulus ensemble matters

- Behavioral state may also

- Triggering and priming

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• spiking inputs • intrinsic properties • local circuits • cortical feedback

What happens in the LGN?

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Directions

• Do bursts occur and are they visual in alert animals?

• Function of cortical feedback to the LGN?

• Does precision in the LGN matter for perception?

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Flister, Meier , Conway & Reinagel (unpub)

An awake behaving rodent prep for vision

Thanks to collaborators at CSHL

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Bursts in LGN in the awake, behaving rat

Flister, Meier & Reinagel (unpub)

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Center Surround Opponent RFs

Kuffler 1958

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Natural scenes are spatially correlated

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Spatial correlations in unnatural images

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Natural Image

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Correlation

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Power spectrum

cycles/degree

Spatial correlation in natural images

(cf. Field 1987; Tadmore & Tolhurst; Ruderman & Bialek; van Hateren)

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Natural Image

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(cf. Barlow 1961)

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Temporal frequency (Hz)

Natural temporal stimulus

(cf. Dong & Atick 1995; van Hateren 1997)

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Temporal frequency (Hz)

(cf. Dan Atick & Reid 1996)

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Barlow 1961 Redundancy Reduction Hypothesis

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Sensory neurons decorrelate natural inputs to reduce redundancy

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Dan, Atick & Reid 1996

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Dan, Atick & Reid 1996

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Whitening in the fly

Van Hateren 1997

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Summary: Redundancy Reduction

• Shannon 1948: Optimal codes lack redundancy

• Kuffler 1958: Center-surround receptive fields in retinaHubel 1960: Center-surround RFs in LGN

• Barlow 1961: Center-surround RFs reduce redundancy for natural scenes

• Dan, Atick & Reid 1996: Responses in LGN are less redundant for natural scenes

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white natural0

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Bullfrog Auditory Neuron: Natural Stimulus is ‘Optimal’

Rieke, Bodnar & Bialek 1995

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Cat LGN Neuron: Opposite result

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Analog LED Stimuli

Reinagel & Reid, in prep.

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(replication ofDan et al 1996)