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Technical Committee on Emergency Communication Systems 2016 Second Draft Meeting Minutes

San Diego, CA June 24 & 25, 2014

Wayne Moore-Chair

A. 6.24.14 TC meeting called to order by Chair Wayne Moore at 8:06 AM B. Introductions of all present, plus 6 guests C. Sign in sheets gathered by NFPA staff, see attached roster of attendees D. Agenda was reviewed and Approved, E. Meeting Minutes for First Draft were Approved F. Discussion/presentation on Process for Second Draft Actions G. Reviewed Task Group activities, noted below. H. Worked on various PC’s (Total of 35 PC’s to work) I. Lunch break at 11:50 AM to 1:00 PM J. Resumed meeting at 1:00 PM to review proposed Annex K. 1:30 PM worked on various PC’s L. 6:20 PM Closed the session for the day M. 6.25.14 Session called to order at 8:00 AM N. Al Ramirez of UL presented an update on CI Cables listings O. Next steps Ballots and CC reviews actions P. New Business: None Q. A total of 39 PC and CI were processed in this session R. Closed session 11:40 AM.

a. The meeting closed on a sobering note, this will be Wayne Moore’s last session as Chair, and Wayne took Chapter 24 from an idea to a very valuable part of NFPA 72. His leadership is respected and the committee looks forward to his continued participation within the committee.

The following task groups are for record only. Most of the tasks are closed and noted. They will be removed with when the next cycle starts.

Task Group Scope

Chair Members

Documentation Review Ch 24 documentation

requirements and recommend reduction in duplicative material and relocate

some material to appropriate locations for improved flow.

Report: Completed, 11 PI’s submitted, with renumbering of sections

CLOSED

Bruce Fraser Andrew Woodward, Rodger Reiswig, Sean Remke

Numbering of Sections Review Ch 24 numbering and

recommend ways to reduce length of section paragraph numbering and to promote major headings for improved

usability. Report: See above for comments,

CLOSED

Bruce Fraser Andrew Woodward, Rodger Reiswig, Sean Remke

Risk Analysis Where do we make this mandatory?

Is required for MNS System. Impacts on Combination Systems

where MNS is involved.

Report: John reported on actions taken, submitted various PI’s. Tried to simplify

the process, lots of discussion—will review the PI’s in detail

CLOSED

John Fuoto Sean Remke, Oded Aron, Joe Collins, Joe Ripp, Aviv

Siegel, Bruce Fraser

LOC Mounting Heights and define use by Occupant vs. Authorized user

Develop language and PI

Report: Submitted PI’s CLOSED

Scott Lacey Ray Hansen, Waymon Jackson

Req for Monitoring FA and MNS Stand Alone Systems

Develop Language and PI Report: Submitted PI’s

CLOSED

Scott Lacey Derek Matthews, Ray Hansen

Test Schedule for Elevator Define and prepare PI

Report: Submitted PI’s

CLOSED

Bruce Fraser Wayne Moore

Test Schedule Area of Refuge Communication Systems

Clean up 14.4.3.2; LSC 101 7.2.12 Develop PI

Report: TG has draft of changes, need to submit CI to ECS and Chp 14 TMS

CLOSED

Rodger Reiswig Derek Mathews, Dan Finnegan, Waymon Jackson

FPRF Research on Messaging What should we put into our code for

guidance and direction Develop PI

Report: Submitted PI’s

Worked SR’s and submitted in this session

Dan Finnegan John Fuoto, Wayne Moore

Technology for Providing

Intelligibility May need to allow non-Fire listed

products for certain applications……

Report: TG submitted PI’s

John Fuoto

Mike Pallett , Denise Pappas, Andrew Woodward, Wayne

Moore, Derek Mathews, Dan Finnegan, Joe Collins

Audio Circuit db Loss Evaluate data from chapter 23, place in

Annex Develop PI

Report: Need some outside SME on

this topic, need placeholder into document CLOSED

Charlie Hall Waymon Jackson, Joe Dafin, Jim Chambers

24.4.2.8 Review Evacuation Signals

Correlate with Chp 18, change title to just evac. Revise and create PI

Report: Formed a TG to review and develop revisions to submitted PI

CLOSED

Dan Finnegan Mike Pallett, Jim Mongeau

Prescriptive vs Performance Base for Risk Analysis

Develop PI

Report: PI’s submitted CLOSED

Sean Remke Ray Hansen, Waymon Jackson, Bruce Fraser

Area of Refuge Compare actual requirements with other

two way requirements

Report: PI’s submitted CLOSED

Mike Pallett Derek Mathews Needs to work with Rodgers

task group

LCD screens that would be primary visual notification appliances

Review and develop PI

Report: PI’s submitted CLOSED

Mike Pallett

Derek Mathews

Review of First Draft Document NEW (9.09.13)

Review FD accuracy as printed, including Correlation

CLOSED

Bruce Fraser

Bruce Fraser-Chair John Fannin Joe Collins

Review Communication Systems for Elevator and Stairs NEW (9.11.13)

Overlap of Systems-Recommendations

Bruce Fraser

Joe Ripp, Andrew Woodward Jim Mongeau, Mike Pallett,

ECS-PRO ColorationCollaboration

Define Zone/Notification To be worked next cycle

Mike Pallett-rep ECS

tbd

Submitted Daniel P Finnegan

Secretary ECS TC