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How do we as the real education profs
make our collective voice heard in 2012?
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mrbulmerPE 19:57
RT @uk_teacher: #Gove bores students with his academy drivel.
Absolutely classic fail. #ukedchat http://t.co/76kO3Cfr
philallman1 19:57
Almost there everyone - #ukedchat 'How do we as the real
education profs make our collective voice heard in 2012?' in 2
mins!
ConsultantHead 19:58
@purposeducation: Have you signed the HM government e-
petition calling for debate on education? http://t.co/Q1VXI8p3
#ukedchat
bucharesttutor 19:59
Is this going to be a UK specific #ukedchat ? Can anyone pls
answer?
philallman1 19:59
RT @ConsultantHead: @purposeducation: Have you signed the HM
government e-petition calling for debate on education?
http://t.co/Q1VXI8p3 #ukedchat
philallman1 19:59
Ok everyone - we are up and running. As dedicated ed profs how
do we make ourselves heard? #ukedchatBobToms100 19:59 Is it #ukedchat time? Oh heck...
Natty08 20:00 Unlocked for #ukedchat :)
philallman1 20:00
RT @TheHeadsOffice: What arenas & are we talking about
EVERYTHING we want to say? #ukedchat< thoughts? what hot
buttons do we have?
philallman1 20:00
@bucharesttutor not necessarily although the qu is pertinent here
I know it is same elsewhere #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:00
What arenas & are we talking about EVERYTHING we want to say?
#ukedchat
eylanezekiel 20:00
#ukedchat Teachers voices wld be heard better & valued in policy if
the culture of defensiveness was removed along w/ poor
practitioners
barton1875 20:01
@eylanezekiel #ukedchat People saying that there are poor
practitioners feeds into the culture of defensiveness
philallman1 20:01 @bellaale what would you say? #ukedchat
bellaale 20:01 @philallman1 kidnap Gove and SHOUT in his ears? ;) #ukedchat
philallman1 20:01
RT @eylanezekiel: #ukedchat Teachers voices wld be heard better
& valued in policy if the culture of defensiveness was removed
along w/ poor practitioners
cherrylkd 20:02
@philallman1 #ukedchat I don't think striking is the correctresponse for teachers. Lose public sympathy & de value our
professional status
SirBlimelyWindy 20:02
#ukedchat the biggest problem is that politicians think they know
best because they once went to school
KerriDrama 20:02
RT @ConsultantHead: @purposeducation: Have you signed the HM
government e-petition calling for debate on education?
http://t.co/Q1VXI8p3 #ukedchat
BobToms100 20:02
@philallman1 broadcast your good practice thro ur students,
rather than telling leadership #ukedchat
ukedchat 20:02 Are you joining @philallman1 for #ukedchat this evening?
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SirBlimelyWindy 20:03
@philallman1 #ukedchat I'd tell him to stop meddling and trust the
professionals to do the job - does he tell doctors how to operate?
philallman1 20:03
RT @SirBlimelyWindy: #ukedchat the biggest problem is that
politicians think they know best b/c they once went 2 skool We have a virtual
sch in my LA
janwebb21 20:16
RT @philallman1: RT @PhaedScho: You get to understand people
better by their ACTIONS as well as their words: #ukedchat
passionateaboot 20:16
#ukedchat Can you look at this from a different perspective? Who
changes hearts and minds successfully - how do they do it?
TheHeadsOffice 20:17
RT @JOHNSAYERS: @CliveSir: What percentage of teachers
blog, tweet? How representative are you? #ukedchat wouldlove to know the figures!
janwebb21 20:17
RT @mister_jim: Perhaps we need to play a long game & educate
tomorrow's politicians & world leaders in class NOW... #ukedchat
philallman1 20:17
RT @tim7168: Maybe that half-term teaching requirement should
extend to Secretary of State for Education! #ukedchat < after
y/days perf!
GeekPeter 20:17
@TheHeadsOffice @mattpearson #ukedchat TwitterFreeSchool
open 6-8pm weekdays for intensive tuition from range of
professionals?
SumonT 20:17
RT @tim7168: Read recommendation by Mick Waters that Ofsted
inspectors should be required to teach half a term each year.
#ukedchat
GeorgeEBlack 20:17
#ukedchat the thing is the politicians were in school at least 15
years ago and things have changed soooo much...
tcash 20:17
RT @CliveSir: Wow! Ed Blog Register is growing: 167 blogs now!
Join us: bit.ly/s6ex1u #elemchat #ukedchat #ntchat #edchat
#cpchat #eltchat
dan_bowen 20:17
@bevevans22 #ukedchat more Twitter more teachmeets more
something New I feel. Edu is settling down ....maybe the rise of
New cpd models
janwebb21 20:17
RT @bevevans22: @bellaale Sharing with wider edu community is
fun but not always easy. There are always going to be those not
wanting to listen #ukedchat
tim7168 20:17
Maybe that half-term teaching requirement should extend to
Secretary of State for Education! #ukedchat
SurrealAnarchy 20:17
@mattpearson: we could always start a free school, that
would get us loads of positive media coverage . . #ukedchat
why not?
barton1875 20:17 @dawnhallybone that doesn't sell papers though #ukedchat
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EA_Holmes 20:17
RT @passionateaboot: #ukedchat Can you look at this from a
different perspective? Who changes hearts and minds successfully -
how do they do it?
janwebb21 20:17
@MoreThanMaths that is true! how do we get huddles and cliques
to look outward then! #ukedchat
mister_jim 20:17
@mikemcsharry ahh, just thinking along the lines of doctors &
solicitors #ukedchat
mattpearson 20:17
@mister_jim we better go and get jobs in private schools then.
Many UK politicians are privately educated!! #ukedchat
EddieGouthwaite 20:17
#Barnsley Church Leaders "Divide & rule" #LMHR #HopeNotHate
#UkEdChat #Abbot #MultiAcademies Labour Style Capitalism
#Colonialism #Filkin
JOHNSAYERS 20:17
@CliveSir: What percentage of teachers blog, tweet? How
representative are you? #ukedchat would live to know the
figures!
SumonT 20:17
RT @mikemcsharry: Invite more business folks into your way of
thinking - let them help to give you a voice #ukedchat
philallman1 20:17
RT @mister_jim: Perhaps we need to play a long game & educate
tomorrow's politicians & world leaders in class NOW... #ukedchat > Terrfific idea!
ianaddison 20:28
#ukedchat I can share ideas with people around the globe, yet try
and do it within the LA and there are too many barriers!
KirstenWinkler 20:28
#ukedchat If you hold a local teacher / parent meetup every
month, people will start to notice and get interested. Face to faceis important
davidErogers 20:28 @philallman1 @bevevans22 Thank you #ukedchat
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TheHeadsOffice 20:28
RT @NatashaCowan: Surely it's people that don't understand social
networking who try to ban / slate it!! Need to educate them too
#UKEdChat
norfolkteacher1 20:28
@GeorgeEBlack @OhLottie @TheHeadsOffice I was heavily warned
against using these sites by previous HT which is why I'm
anonymous #ukedchat
tim7168 20:28
@reflectivemaths @SuperlativeC @SumonT Yeah but can you offerconstructive feedback without skills and knowledge of your own?
#ukedchat
GeorgeEBlack 20:28
RT @kvnmcl: No hidden agendas/methods, share everything that
works and doesn't. Use any communication to get the message
across #ukedchat
philallman1 20:28
RT @janwebb21: @ConsultantHead sometimes it just doesn't work
as fast as all the combined brain energy that is going on in
#ukedchat!!!
janbaker97 20:28
@kvnmcl #ukedchat too much them and us - private v public
trying to drive a wedge for political gain often
HilaryNunns 20:28
RT @passionateaboot: @CliveSir #ukedchat And wider than the
educational circle. Do teachers realise the power of networking?
scholaforis 20:29
@ianaddison #ukedchat... you have to speak their language... now
eg, quadblogging is like penpals right :)
mberry 20:29
@ianaddison innovating is often about ignoring the barriers.
Creating a culture of innovation is about dismantling them.
#ukedchat
NatashaCowan 20:29
@tim7168 @reflectivemaths @superlativec @sumont sometimes
yes - observations outside of subject specialism for eg #UKEdChat
jemimaanderson 20:29
Schools need strong teachers who drive things forward and lead by
example but only together can greatness be achieved #ukedchat
janbaker97 20:29
@TheHeadsOffice @NatashaCowan #ukedchat also need sort out
2 and 3 generation unemployed who pass on couldn't care about
education attitude
bevevans22 20:29
Half way through tonight's #ukedchat - Topic is How do we as the
real education profs make our collective voice heard in 2012?
jwinchester25 20:29
RT @mikemcsharry: At every teachmeet - invite the local pressand/or local business leaders - let THEM share your great messages
#ukedchat
philallman1 20:29
So with half an hour gone we agree the obstacles are great. Local
solutions for collaboration key and scaling up. More ideas?
#ukedchat
dan_bowen 20:29
@MoreThanMaths @janwebb21 @CliveSir I think teachmeets
vitalcpd Twitter etc and #ukedchat only hit a small minority
anyway....
NuttyA10 20:29
@bevevans22 @ianaddison It's sad that this is the case with many
LAs, if we worked together then would be stronger as a group.#ukedchat
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janwebb21 20:29
@JCunningham66 uncertainty from one, then encouragement
from a second who was using it herself! #ukedchat
GeekPeter 20:29
@bevevans22 What does the collective voice want to say? And
who do they want to say it to? #ukedchat
davidErogers 20:29
Have we decided who we are trying to get to hear our voice?
#ukedchat targeting is vital
TheHeadsOffice 20:29
RT @mikemcsharry: At every teachmeet - invite the local press
and/or local business leaders - let THEM share your great messages
#ukedchat
theotheralig 20:29
RT @TheHeadsOffice: If I were a HT now I'd sort my staff out a
twitter account, find out about TMs & either run or go to 1 instead
of staff meeting! #ukedchat
MoreThanMaths 20:30
@scholaforis Most people I encounter do value individual
educators, but may also have neg views about education system in
general #ukedchat
GeorgeEBlack 20:30
RT @mberry: @ianaddison innovating is often about ignoring thebarriers. Creating a culture of innovation is about dismantling
them. #ukedchat
janeconsidine 20:30
Many schools claim to have an open door policy to parents but
keep it shut on most occasions. Messages need to be clear and reg.
#ukedchat
dan_bowen 20:30
@MoreThanMaths @janwebb21 @CliveSir majority still supported
by the LA advisors left and independants imho. More impact there
#ukedchat
JOHNSAYERS 20:30
Which publicly popular role model would you want to be patron /
involved / volunteer at your school to highlight great learning?
#ukedchat
jamie_daniels 20:30
@PeterSpencer88 #ukedchat mine has tweeted himself, and as a
deputy I see it as an extremely useful tool. Collaboration, theft
whatever!!
philallman1 20:30
RT @davidErogers: Who has the opinions we want to change most
as they have the most influence, rank order of importance with
ppls and parents 1st? #ukedchat
kvnmcl 20:30
RT @mberry: @ianaddison innovating is often about ignoring the
barriers. Creating a culture of innovation is about dismantling
them. #ukedchat
cherrylkd 20:30
@JCunningham66 @philallman1 @passionateaboot #ukedchat 8page newsletter to press? Do they print it? Good idea if so. That'll
promote school
philallman1 20:30
TMs vital as is use of old and new tech but who do we want to
influence - is it wider than locality? #ukedchat
Queen_Claire 20:30
Have met some influential people and discussed ideas with them
through my uni. Would recommend doing PhD to any teacher
#ukedchat
davidErogers 20:30
Who has the opinions we want to change most as they have the
most influence, rank order of importance with ppls and parents
1st? #ukedchat
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JamiePortman 20:30
#ukedchat I agree with @mlovatt1 when he talks about
'Pragmatopia' = Pragmatic within politicised edu system but also
Utopian re: learning
reflectivemaths 20:30
#ukedchat Don't know how to do it, but how many parents really
know what happens in school? Can't rely on Ss.
CliveSir 20:31The issues need focus - the message needs to be coherent andstrong - you need champions, individuals or groups #ukedchat
davidErogers 20:31
@tim7168 That sounds good, but I have no idea what it means :-?
#ukedchat
bevevans22 20:31
RT @mister_jim: sometimes I think the problem is there is too
much information for people to digest. #ukedchat - you can get
overloaded...
cherrylkd 20:31
@JOHNSAYERS @philallman1 #ukedchat Yes! Get more enterprise
in and business shd help spread positivity about good teaching &
learning
tim7168 20:31
@davidErogers A way of moving the debate away from phoney
targets/measures designed to suit agenda of politicians #ukedchat
philallman1 20:31
RT @chrisleach78: I'd love to work in a school where every teacher
was EXPECTED to be on Twitter and blog #ukedchat
chrisleach78 20:31
I'd love to work in a school where every teacher was EXPECTED to
be on Twitter and blog #ukedchat
MultiMartin 20:31 Subject associations play an important role too #ukedchat
janbaker97 20:31
@davidErogers #ukedchat need to sort out pupil/parent
responsibility not blame culture for teachers
JamiePortman 20:31
RT @bevevans22: Half way through tonight's #ukedchat - Topic is
How do we as the real education profs make our collective voice
heard in 2012?
philallman1 20:31
RT @StuartMaginnis: @philallman1 #ukedchat Teaching schools
will hopefully help develop collaboration.
GeekPeter 20:31
My education followers, have you ever joined #ukedchat ? Do you
know about it?
dan_bowen 20:31
@dawnhallybone that's a winner too. Ncsl models of.distributed
leadership #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:31
@NuttyA10 @ianaddison It's certainly been my experience that
sharing with my own area has been more problematic...#ukedchat
mister_jim 20:31
sometimes I think the problem is there is too much information for
people to digest. #ukedchat
NatashaCowan 20:31
@janbaker97 @theheadsoffice so so true!! That is one of my
biggest irritations! #UKEdChat nothing worse than families that
excuse attitudes
StuartMaginnis 20:31
@philallman1 #ukedchat Teaching schools will hopefully help
develop collaboration.
tim7168 20:31
@davidErogers I think aiming to have a 'voice' is a red herring. It's
actually a way to subvert the false debate that surrounds ed
#ukedchat
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MultiMartin 20:32
RT @ianaddison #ukedchat I can share ideas with people around
the globe, yet try and do it within the LA and there are too many
barriers!
GeorgeEBlack 20:32
RT @CliveSir: The issues need focus - the message needs to be
coherent and strong - you need champions, individuals or groups
#ukedchat
smiths1988 20:32
RT @TheHeadsOffice: RT @mikemcsharry: At every teachmeet -invite the local press and/or local business leaders - let THEM share
your great messages #ukedchat
SirBlimelyWindy 20:32
RT @dockers_hoops: Until collaboration replaces competition we
won't genuinely improve and this is the key message which needs
to be heard #ukedchat
Paddymcgrath 20:32
#ukedchat should we just make everything public documents. S of
work lesson plans raise online resources etc
MoreThanMaths 20:32
@dan_bowen Agree. Mathsmeet organised by @damoward &
others reached wider audience, promoted by ASTs & advisors byword of mouth #ukedchat
EA_Holmes 20:32
Ed writers should ideally be experienced educators. Much ed
writing/comment not nuanced enough. Doesn't challenge enough
#ukedchat #values
philallman1 20:32
RT @dockers_hoops: Until collaboration replaces competition we
won't genuinely improve and this is the key message which needs
to be heard #ukedchat
philallman1 20:32
RT @bellaale: re getting heard: can we not play "the game", and
leverage our privileged position as influential guides of the young?
#ukedchat
dockers_hoops 20:32
Until collaboration replaces competition we won't genuinely
improve and this is the key message which needs to be heard
#ukedchat
bellaale 20:32
re getting heard: can we not play "the game", and leverage our
privileged position as influential guides of the young? #ukedchat
ConsultantHead 20:32
Dads quite like meeting in back rooms of pubs and hearing about
what their kids are doing @reflectivemaths #ukedchat #Ukedchat
SirBlimelyWindy 20:32
@passionateaboot @encompassnow but I think that showing that
all learning is a process to a greater end, and not just a GCSE#ukedchat
philallman1 20:32
.RT @StuartMaginnis: @philallman1 #ukedchat Teaching schools
will hopefully help develop collaboration.
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davidErogers 20:33
@janbaker97 I don't have an issue so much with the media bashing
of teachers, I do with teachers who don't want to meet #ukedchat
theotheralig 20:33
@philallman1 A learning partnership been set up in our LA, offering
high quality CDP as days and twilights, some whole LA days too
#ukedchat
cherrylkd 20:33
@TheHeadsOffice #ukedchat u should come out of retirement &advise Govt of your idea. Twitter is banned. TMs are brill. My entire
sc went
Educationchat 20:33
RT @Reesiepie: Education will be political football while politicians
are in charge. Should be overseen by experts in profession, not
politicians #ukedchat
Biolady99 20:33
RT @mister_jim: sometimes I think the problem is there is too
much information for people to digest. #ukedchat
jamie_daniels 20:33
@dockers_hoops #ukedchat surely with only a few converter
academies sponsoring this is unlikely to happen.
NatashaCowan 20:33
@JOHNSAYERS good question! Someone who is known for workinghard, not through a tv show #UKEdChat a Musician/Sportsperson
who train for hrs
johnmayo 20:33
@Paddymcgrath all lesson plans and resources should be cc and
put on line to crowd source for improvements or differeication
#ukedchat
ianaddison 20:33
My next step is to raise some money and write letters (with
envelopes+stamps) to all schools to get to people! #ukedchat
reflectivemaths 20:33
RT @dockers_hoops: Until collaboration replaces competition we
won't genuinely improve and this is the key message which needs
to be heard #ukedchat
JOHNSAYERS 20:33
RT @ianaddison: #ukedchat I can share ideas with people around
the globe, yet try and do it within the LA and there are too many
barriers!
tim7168 20:33
@davidErogers Indeed. Public debate is all about obfuscation.
#ukedchat
Heatherleatt 20:33
Start at local level; centralisation removes our voice. We have a
voice through Unions, our prof organisations and social media.
#ukedchat
NuttyA10 20:33
@bevevans22 @ianaddison Is it because too much is about
competition? #ukedchat
MoreThanMaths 20:33
RT @jemimaanderson: Teachers setting their CPD is important step
in professionalism - analysis of instruction and its impact on
learning is key #ukedchat
philallman1 20:33
RT @mikemcsharry: Just invited the local editor to the "pie and
Teachmeet" in February .. #ukedchat < same place?
jodie_gardiner 20:33
RT @MoreThanMaths: @scholaforis Most people I encounter do
value individual educators, but may also have neg views about
education system in general #ukedchat
janbaker97 20:33@bellaale #ukedchat those I want to influence wouldn't go near adeprived comp!
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jemimaanderson 20:33
Teachers setting their CPD is important step in professionalism -
analysis of instruction and its impact on learning is key #ukedchat
dan_bowen 20:33
@MultiMartin: Subject associations play an important role too
#ukedchat yes totally agree
philallman1 20:33
@dockers_hoops so are we being divided so rule can occur?
#ukedchat
HilaryNunns 20:33
RT @janbaker97: @TheHeadsOffice @NatashaCowan #ukedchat
also need sort out 2 and 3 generation unemployed who pass on
couldn't care about education attitude
reflectivemaths 20:33
RT @mister_jim: sometimes I think the problem is there is too
much information for people to digest. #ukedchat
philallman1 20:34
RT @StuartMaginnis: @philallman1 #ukedchat if schools get it
right, effective collaboration will benefit more and more schools.
TheHeadsOffice 20:34
@ianaddison On 2 GBs & some of them don't have email so V
difficult to communicate beyond termly papers! #UKEdChat
amazingict 20:34
Great discussion, dont forget lots of us ex LA staff are in schools.
Ive worked in 8 this week using http://t.co/RgEhqtvq #ukedchat
MartindalePaul 20:34
Form a political party aimed at representing the 99%; those
disengaged, not represented by the current major parties.
#ukedchat
philallman1 20:34 RT @reflectivemaths: #ukedchat Anyone invited parents to a TM?
mberry 20:34
@jemimaanderson CPD should be as much about the development
of the profession as the professional. #ukedchat
JOHNSAYERS 20:34
@mikemcsharry let's do them in more open venues to allow Joe
Bloggs to see / hear / be intrigued by #ukedchat
jemimaanderson 20:34
@dockers_hoops I totally agree - competition between kids,
teachers and schools #ukedchat
davidErogers 20:34
@janbaker97 Still trying to understand who we want to target with
our 'voice' to me it should be other teachers #ukedchat
dan_bowen 20:34
Having just read the boring programme for #bett I don't thinkanything will change. The fringe events in #bett is where it is at
#ukedchat
Biolady99 20:34
RT @dockers_hoops: Until collaboration replaces competition we
won't genuinely improve and this is the key message which needs
to be heard #ukedchat
StuartMaginnis 20:34
@philallman1 #ukedchat if schools get it right, effective
collaboration will benefit more and more schools.
reflectivemaths 20:34 #ukedchat Anyone invited parents to a TM?
ianaddison 20:34@mberry county advisors, I was told not to run meetings as itwould clash with theirs! Truly incredible right? #ukedchat
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tim7168 20:34
@Heatherleatt Brings me back to my earlier point. If centralisation
is harmful to professionalism, why are many anti-academy?
#ukedchat
mikemcsharry 20:34
@philallman1 certainly is - I'll be finalising very soon. #ukedchat
#teachmeetandpie
eylanezekiel 20:34 @philallman1 #ukedchat - umbrella network is a very good idea....
PhaedScho 20:34
@passionateaboot by actually DOING something to demonstrate
your values and convictions about teaching and learning-let people
in #ukedchat
JaneBilham 20:34
@Write_To_Learn:@pschoolsystems Legos in the classroom?
http://t.co/QHppY92r - playdoh also useful For English teaching
#UKEdChat #engchat
rene_koglbauer 20:34 @NatashaCowan agreed. Just written an article on this #UKEdChat
janeconsidine 20:34
RT @eylanezekiel: #ukedchat no point looking to the politicians
and journalists to be 'better'. Teachers can influence families(voters, tax payers) directly
GeorgeEBlack 20:35
RT @NatashaCowan: Bring your parent to school day? Like bring
your child to work but reversed. You'd never get the parents who'd
really benefit tho #UKEdChat
philallman1 20:35
RT @Educationchat: Headteachers need to realise what a powerful
voice they would be if they spoke as one. get in clusters and work
together. #ukedchat
jjash 20:35
@ianaddison letters with stamps end up in a pile to be opened at
the end of term when cleaning up. #ukedchat
davidErogers 20:35
@theotheralig I think that's the key - strong local networks that
also link to wider. #ukedchat
jemimaanderson 20:35 @mberry explain further.... #ukedchat
cherrylkd 20:35
@GeekPeter #ukedchat show them your timeline after tonight's
chat. Or wait for the blog round up. That will convince them of
value
philallman1 20:35
RT @davidErogers: @janbaker97 who we want to target with our
'voice' to me it should be other teachers #ukedchat < ourselves b4
others?
Paddymcgrath 20:35
RT @johnmayo: @Paddymcgrath all lesson plans and resources
should be cc and put on line to crowd source for improvements or
differeication #ukedchat
encompassnow 20:35
@SirBlimelyWindy @passionateaboot I agree with that, plus if you
get on advisory committees for LAs then your voice will be heard
#ukedchat
BobToms100 20:35 @janwebb21 Yep, ground-up :) #ukedchat
Queen_Claire 20:35
Be PROUD to be a teacher. Share the awesome things you do in
your classroom through local media #ukedchat
janbaker97 20:35
@dockers_hoops #ukedchat I agree totally - as I said less business
more education!
ianaddison 20:35
@mberry problem is, if I get banned from using their means of
communication, I can't think how to contact them without usingmail! #ukedchat
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jamesdhobsonuk 20:35
RT @MoreThanMaths: @scholaforis Most people I encounter do
value individual educators, but may also have neg views about
education system in general #ukedchat
mikemcsharry 20:35
RT @johnsayers: @mikemcsharry let's do them in more open
venues to allow Joe Bloggs to see / hear / be intrigued by
#ukedchat
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JCunningham66 20:36
@passionateaboot @philallman1 #ukedchat Also, why don't
schools take 'the lead' on community events, rather than just 'tag
along'!
PhaedScho 20:36
RT @NatashaCowan: Bring your parent to school day? Like bring
your child to work but reversed. You'd never get the parents who'd
really benefit tho #UKEdChat
NuttyA10 20:36@davidErogers @theotheralig How to get those strong local linkswhen schs around close ranks? #ukedchat
jamie_daniels 20:36
@dan_bowen #ukedchat what and where will be best at bett then?
Going on Thursday.
AndreasStace 20:36
@chrisleach78: I'd love to work in a school where every
teacher was EXPECTED to be on Twitter and blog #ukedchat
#rcps
davidErogers 20:36
@philallman1 For sure - there's no point in convincing the world
that teacher rock when some don't. #ukedchat
mattpearson 20:37
To raise status of teaching maybe we could get a large company
like Pearson to sponsor some teaching awards *ducks* . .#ukedchat
davidErogers 20:37
@NuttyA10 Takes ages, but it's worth hanging in there I think (not
that we have achieved much yet) #ukedchat
jamesdhobsonuk 20:37
Influencing policy is difficult because to get into influential position
entails supporting orthodoxy. This has been me at times!
#ukedchat
MoreThanMaths 20:37
@ianaddison @mberry Wow. In Sheffield 'Bring and Share' meet
clashed with advisor/HoD meet 2 yrs ago, no suggestion of
canceling. #ukedchat
berkholibrarian 20:37
@buffyjhamilton yes teacher enforcing definitely the key
#continuity #ukedchat
davidErogers 20:37
@NuttyA10 With our area by getting to individual teachers and
offering support / fun / banter / targeted CPD #ukedchat
NatashaCowan 20:37
@rene_koglbauer I know. Amazing how the press were so negative
in the week and missed the point entirely! #UKEdChat
mberry 20:37
@ianaddison sounds as though your 'advisors' might be 'putting
the ideology of central control ahead of the interests of children'
#ukedchat
ianaddison 20:37
@bevevans22 I suggested an LA blog to share ideas and was told 'it
wasn't my place to suggest such things' #ukedchat
philallman1 20:37 @superdooperal then organise a GM not a TM ;) #ukedchat
mikemcsharry 20:37
re @davidErogers comment - the twitter population is the tip of
the tip of the iceberg #ukedchat
GeorgeEBlack 20:37
RT @AndreasStace: @chrisleach78: I'd love to work in a school
where every teacher was EXPECTED to be on Twitter and blog
#ukedchat #rcps
JCunningham66 20:37@cherrylkd @philallman1 @passionateaboot #ukedchat No theyhave it distributed door to door! Builds #community
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Biolady99 20:37
RT @johnmayo: @Paddymcgrath all lesson plans and resources
should be cc and put on line to crowd source for improvements or
differeication #ukedchat
NuttyA10 20:37
@bevevans22 @ianaddison Blog & share wider or share in
community & how far does it go if embraced at all! #ukedchat
Headteacher63 20:37
RT @TheHeadsOffice: RT @ianaddison: #ukedchat I can share ideaswith people around the globe, yet try and do it within the LA and
there are too many barriers!
Heatherleatt 20:37
Lobby local politicians. Schools/acads still need to engage with LA
as senior officers have contact with DfE and govt ministers
#ukedchat
cherrylkd 20:37
@passionateaboot @jcunningham66 @philallman1 #ukedchat we
do e-newsletter. Wonder how many parents read it now they have
to log on.
TheHeadsOffice 20:38RT @ianaddison: Whatever happens, I will continue sharing nomatter what. It makes sense doesn't it? #ukedchat >Certainly does!
Heatherleatt 20:38
RT @MartindalePaul: Along with teachers, get other respected
people from the local communities & create grass-roots
movement. Educ too political! #ukedchat
davidErogers 20:38
Although tech helps me develop and I love being a geek, I still think
that face to face is the way to build lasting relationships #ukedchat
mikemcsharry 20:38
I introduced twitter to a group of teachers. They heard "Please may
I eat your first born" - twitter is one of many avenues #ukedchat
Lancsjames 20:38
Example of poor teacher/parent communication and collaboration
= 14 months between Y10 + 11 parents eves #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:38
@TheHeadsOffice I was just considered strange anyway. Nothing
to do with my age ;) #ukedchat
philallman1 20:38
So if real effective change is from ground up & we R the cutting
edge 'converted' wht R WE going 2 do abt it? 20 mins left!
#ukedchat
ianaddison 20:38
Whatever happens, I will continue sharing no matter what. It
makes sense doesn't it? #ukedchat
NuttyA10 20:38
@davidErogers Does only work sadly though when local schs want
to work w/ u & schs far apart outside of city #ukedchat
bellaale 20:38
@rachelburden possibly the last thing you want to do on a
Thursday eve with an early get-up tomorrow...but have you ever
followed #ukedchat?
Heatherleatt 20:38
@tim7168 because acads only answer to central govt ultimately.
#ukedchat
MartindalePaul 20:38
Along with teachers, get other respected people from the local
communities & create grass-roots movement. Educ too political!
#ukedchatjohnmayo 20:38 @mattpearson Stirrer ...... #ukedchat
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davidErogers 20:38
@mikemcsharry I agree, there are many great teachers not on
Twitter (nor should they be) and many poor ones #ukedchat
JOHNSAYERS 20:38
How much of what we do is behind closed doors? More public
events etc. look at America College Football n THOUSANDS attend!
#ukedchat
SheliBB 20:38
@norfolkteacher1 @ohlottie @theheadsoffice so I told HTsemphatically that twitter has been the best cpd for me in past 3
years #ukedchat
janbaker97 20:38
@janbaker97 @philallman1 @davidErogers #ukedchat ultimately
it has to be politicians and parents via media I think
TheHeadsOffice 20:38
As an 'older' twitter person I'm regarded as rather strange by the
LA & other governors! #UKEdChat
norfolkteacher1 20:39
@ianaddison Oh yes! We're all definitely the converted. We do
need to get word out there to others #ukedchat
Biolady99 20:39 RT @TeacherToolkit: @ukedchat @philallman1
SirBlimelyWindy 20:39
RT @ConsultantHead: I'm not even convinced that most people
realise the extent of the imminent profitisation of our entire state
school sector #ukedchat
davidErogers 20:39
@janbaker97 Why should we care what the politicians think? Gove
isn't in my classroom ;-) I do what I like (playing devils ad)
#ukedchat
tim7168 20:39
@Heatherleatt True but are also more autonomous...more
opportunities to lead (and influence) by example maybe?
#ukedchat
ConsultantHead 20:39
I'm not even convinced that most people realise the extent of the
imminent profitisation of our entire state school sector #ukedchat
JOHNSAYERS 20:39
Darlington has a 25,000 sweater stadium! How about an education
open event? Wembley? The Olympic Stadium for any sort of
event? #ukedchat
GeekPeter 20:39
#ukedchat Convincing non-Twitter education staff to join is tricky
as you're trying to get busy people to take up more of their own
time.
philallman1 20:39 @TeacherToolkit so how do we clear the froth? #ukedchat
Smichael920 20:39
@MultiMartin @ianaddison always easier with like minded people.
Our biggest challenges are often with those closest to home!#ukedchat
katemck 20:39
RT @mattpearson: Teachers views have not been heeded by
politicians for 30 odd years. We probably need a new breed of
politician... #ukedchat
cherrylkd 20:39
@JCunningham66 #ukedchat @passionateaboot good idea. Bet
they read it hand delivered
NatashaCowan 20:39 @ianaddison @bevevans22 madness! #UKEdChat
MoreThanMaths 20:39
Yes -> RT @ianaddison: Whatever happens, I will continue sharing
no matter what. It makes sense doesn't it? #ukedchat
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NuttyA10 20:39
RT @PhaedScho: Twitter etc = Pandora's Box - see the Middle East -
openness = collaboration and communication = freedom?
#ukedchat
scholaforis 20:39
#ukedchat. see earlier comments about local collaborations, etc
and each one of us sharing the benefits with a colleague
#getpersonal
philallman1 20:39
RT @bellaale: @rachelburden possibly the last thing you want todo on a Thursday eve with an early get-up tomorrow...but have
you ever followed #ukedchat?
TeacherToolkit 20:39 @ukedchat @philallman1
JCunningham66 20:39
@passionateaboot @cherrylkd @philallman1 #ukedchat Agree,
however, not all households in inner cities necessarily have PC's.
Smichael920 20:40 RT @TeacherToolkit: @ukedchat @philallman1
jemimaanderson 20:40
Books and journals work for many. No compulsory CPD. Twitter
and online learning is not for all. Let teachers decide. #ukedchat
BobToms100 20:40
@JOHNSAYERS Like it. Participation through support (US culture is
great). Need to coach parents... (overexuberance) #ukedchat
barton1875 20:40
RT @ianaddison: Whatever happens, I will continue sharing no
matter what. It makes sense doesn't it? #ukedchat What twitter
was made for Sir
philallman1 20:40
RT @TeacherToolkit: @philallman1: @TeacherToolkit so how
do we clear the froth? #ukedchat
mister_jim 20:40
a new idea - like an effective education system - will be rejected by
the hegemony as it is radically different to existing policy
#ukedchat
philallman1 20:40 @suttonnick you need to follow #ukedchat you will learn loads!
TeacherToolkit 20:40
@philallman1: @TeacherToolkit so how do we clear the froth?
#ukedchat
NuttyA10 20:40
@davidErogers Indeed if they can't see why bother what they
think, just do it anyway! Shows we're inventive! #ukedchat
mikemcsharry 20:40
@johnsayers love the idea of 25,000 sweaters. Awesome.
#ukedchat
cherrylkd 20:40
@passionateaboot @jcunningham66 @philallman1 #ukedchat Imean possibly more read it on a sheet of A4. Not everyone logs
onto sc website
Heatherleatt 20:40 @mattpearson hollow laugh #ukedchat
davidErogers 20:40
@NuttyA10 True, but it's not schools that we need to deal with it's
individuals #ukedchat
JCunningham66 20:40
@passionateaboot @philallman1 #ukedchat Yep. Totally!
Community feel they have open door to 'that lovely school' !
NatashaCowan 20:40RT @ianaddison: Whatever happens, I will continue sharing nomatter what. It makes sense doesn't it? #ukedchat
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ConsultantHead 20:40
RT @mattpearson: I think schools need to explain more frequently
and more rigorously how and why they are teaching. So parents
value this more #ukedchat
mberry 20:40
@jemimaanderson check out what @ade_oshineye says about the
Master: http://t.co/l7kunKR6 #ukedchat
philallman1 20:40
RT @ConsultantHead: I'm not even convinced that most people
realise the extent of the imminent profitisation of our entire stateschool sector #ukedchat
mister_jim 20:41 @philallman1 ooh, no! I mean our ideas for change #ukedchat
mberry 20:41
@jemimaanderson ... what many of our friends are doing on here
is about developing others' professionalism & thus the profession.
#ukedchat
JCunningham66 20:41
@cherrylkd @passionateaboot #ukedchat Community activities
have increased, facility hiring increased, gym membership
increased. It works..!
davidErogers 20:41@ConsultantHead I agree with you there, but how many teachersdo? #ukedchat
janbaker97 20:41
@philallman1 #ukedchat organise a quango (!) to promote what
we want heard!
dan_bowen 20:41
RT @cherrylkd: @JOHNSAYERS @philallman1 #ukedchat Yes! Get
more enterprise in and business shd help spread positivity about
good teaching & learning
Biolady99 20:41
RT @TeacherToolkit: @philallman1: @TeacherToolkit so how
do we clear the froth? #ukedchat
NuttyA10 20:41
@davidErogers Worked in last LA but this LA even with individuals
not interested, bizarre!! #ukedchat
philallman1 20:41
@mister_jim does that mean you agree with what is happening
now b/c its new? #ukedchat
dan_bowen 20:41
@eylanezekiel: Just convinced my sister to come along to
#TMBETT12 - I know you lot will make her welcome! Brilliant
#ukedchat
GeekPeter 20:41
@ICTEvangelist @MissKMcD Join our #ukedchat on now (until
9pm) - discussion is around making collective education voices
heard :)
davidErogers 20:41
@Heatherleatt Both. I don;t think that engaging with Twitter is an
automatic entry into being a good teacher ness #ukedchat
cherrylkd 20:42
@JCunningham66 @passionateaboot #ukedchat I love it. It's a
good idea.
bevevans22 20:42
@TheHeadsOffice I need to accept that the majority of people find
me a bit strange. Children don't have a problem...#ukedchat
bellaale 20:42
RT @vickitoria35 @mikemcsharry: At every teachmeet - invite
the local press and/or local business leaders #ukedchat
dan_bowen 20:42
RT @mikemcsharry: At every teachmeet - invite the local press
and/or local business leaders - let THEM share your great messages#ukedchat
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barton1875 20:42
@davidErogers @Heatherleatt But it helps being with people who
are passionate about their job #ukedchat
davidErogers 20:42
We have started to build relationships with local businesses in
order to prtovide venues #ukedchat
jamie_daniels 20:42
RT @schoolsontap: Ditch infant class size limits, Michael Gove
urged http://t.co/7xtJnjrS | BBC #ukedchat to cheer you all up
bellaale 20:42
RT @ianaddison: Whatever happens, I will continue sharing no
matter what. It makes sense doesn't it? #ukedchat
philallman1 20:42 @mister_jim that's ok then! #ukedchat
PhaedScho 20:42
RT @JOHNSAYERS: How much of what we do is behind closed
doors? More public events etc. look at America College Football n
THOUSANDS attend! #ukedchat
dan_bowen 20:42
RT @bevevans22: RT @ianaddison: #ukedchat I can share ideas
with people around the globe, yet try and do it within the LA and
there are too many barriers!
illdoittomorrow 20:42
Many teachers who don't tweet use ict to share. Just look at TES or
primary resources. National VLE anyone? #ukedchat
philallman1 20:42 @janbaker97 who would we get to front it?! #ukedchat
Spencerayres 20:42
Create local networks of engaging practitioners who can create
change in their areas like @MediaEdAssc #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:42
RT @janbaker97: @philallman1 #ukedchat organise a quango (!)
to promote what we want heard! >Need that list!
davidErogers 20:42
@NuttyA10 It is strange. A hums specialist sch doesn;t want to
engage with the geog network we are developing #ukedchat
dan_bowen 20:43
RT @mberry: @ianaddison innovating is often about ignoring the
barriers. Creating a culture of innovation is about dismantling
them. #ukedchat
davidErogers 20:43
@dawnhallybone @danbowen I agree with you there Dawn, it's
about taking small steps and making innovation accessible
#ukedchat
tim7168 20:43
RT @Heatherleatt: It shd be compulsory for a Secretary of State for
Education to have been a serving teacher for a minimum period of
time. 5 yrs+? #ukedchat
PCETNetwork 20:43
RT @bevevans22: Half way through tonight's #ukedchat - Topic is
How do we as the real education profs make our collective voice
heard in 2012?
philallman1 20:43
RT @janbaker97: @philallman1 #ukedchat someone the masses
respect & would listen to - Stephen Fry? @stephenfry would you
do it? #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:43
RT @davidErogers: You'llsay that I'm obsessed with pubs &cake,
but holding get togethers in pubs and tearooms and having no
agenda #ukedchat
PhaedScho 20:43@davidErogers Yes - maybe in embryonic stages though - what willcome next? #ukedchat
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Smichael920 20:43
RT @mister_jim: a new idea - like an effective education system -
will be rejected by the hegemony as it is radically different to
existing policy #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:43
@ianaddison @PeterSpencer88 It's so infuriating - you feel like
you're banging your head against a brick wall. #ukedchat
mister_jim 20:43
RT @bevevans22: @TheHeadsOffice I need to accept that themajority of people find me a bit strange. Children don't have a
problem...#ukedchat
janbaker97 20:43
@philallman1 #ukedchat someone the masses respect & would
listen to - Stephen Fry?
philallman1 20:43
RT @Heatherleatt: It shd be compulsory for a Secretary of State for
Education to have been a serving teacher for a minimum period of
time. 5 yrs+? #ukedchat
philallman1 20:43
RT @Educationchat: If Headteachers refused to implement any
govt policy they thought wasn't for the benefit of their children
what could govt do? #ukedchat
davidErogers 20:43
And you'll all say that I'm obsessed with pubs and cake, but holding
get togethers in pubs and tearooms and having no agenda
#ukedchat
NuttyA10 20:43
@davidErogers Yep maths specialists who won't come to a meeting
at our side of LA cause it's too far away but we have to attend!
#ukedchat
Educationchat 20:43
If Headteachers refused to implement any govt policy they thought
wasn't for the benefit of their children what could govt do?
#ukedchat
Heatherleatt 20:43
It shd be compulsory for a Secretary of State for Education to have
been a serving teacher for a minimum period of time. 5 yrs+?
#ukedchat
cherrylkd 20:44
@davidErogers #ukedchat @NuttyA10 that is strange! How can
they call selves hum specs I wonder?
CliveSir 20:44
@SirKenRobinson has a dig at Gove at 18'26" on the School of Life
video http://t.co/qjDssMOY #ukedchat
JCunningham66 20:44
@passionateaboot @philallman1 #ukedchat Part of the package.
Designed internally and professionally, printed and delivered
externally.
HilaryNunns 20:44
@theotheralig @philallman1 cpd/learning collaboration is quite
usual in FE, why not secondary #ukedchat
philallman1 20:44
So last 15 mins everyone 'How do we as the real education profs
make our collective voice heard in 2012?' - how do we go national
#ukedchat
reflectivemaths 20:44
@bevevans22 What are we trying to make people hear our
collective voice say? #ukedchat
NatashaCowan 20:44
@Spencerayres @mediaedassc #UKEdChat local networks are
great buy without funding or expansion, quite often die off. How
do you get gov in?
rene_koglbauer 20:44@NatashaCowan yep. They should have listened to Julie young atschool networks conference in December #ukedchat
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davidErogers 20:44
@barton1875 I agree, but there are lots of those at my school
@PriorySouthsea and my dept @priorygeography #ukedchat
katebook 20:44
'Ditch class size limit, Gove told' Yep, our
futures.
MoreThanMaths 20:44
RT @ConsultantHead: RT @mikemcsharry: At every teachmeet -invite the local press and/or local business leaders - let THEM share
your great messages #ukedchat
mberry 20:44
@chrisleach78 we built it into our NM's job description that he
participate in wider professional networks... #ukedchat
Spencerayres 20:44 #ukedchat
ConsultantHead 20:44
RT @mikemcsharry: At every teachmeet - invite the local press
and/or local business leaders - let THEM share your great messages
#ukedchat
dgilmour 20:45
@ianaddison @bevevans22 http://t.co/pOtVo36P started as an LA
site to share ideas, now involves 1000s & seen as essential.
#ukedchat
rene_koglbauer 20:45
RT @ianaddison: Whatever happens, I will continue sharing no
matter what. It makes sense doesn't it? #ukedchat
passionateaboot 20:45
#ukedchat Coming through loud and clear from discussions that
there are better ways of influencing than telling. Is telling
'patronising'?
davidErogers 20:45
RT @AlecWeaver1: @davidErogers you get more done that way
rather in formal meetings >> Indeed we do :-) #ukedchat
mattpearson 20:45
Did 'Educating Essex' help with positive public image of teaching; or
was it designed to do something else? Big Media is important
#ukedchat
mikemcsharry 20:45
@passionateaboot many small businesses seeing benefit of
involvement CSR bumbling along. #ukedchat
PeterSpencer88 20:45 @Heatherleatt couldn't agree more #ukedchat
janbaker97 20:45 @Heatherleatt #ukedchat I so agree! Walk a mile in my shoes....
bellaale 20:45
RT @Heatherleatt: It shd be compulsory for a Secretary of State for
Education to have been a serving teacher for a minimum period oftime. 5 yrs+? #ukedchat
davidErogers 20:45 @NuttyA10 Nuts isn't it #ukedchat
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PeterSpencer88 20:45
RT @Heatherleatt: It shd be compulsory for a Secretary of State for
Education to have been a serving teacher for a minimum period of
time. 5 yrs+? #ukedchat
ConsultantHead 20:45
.@Heatherleatt Some ed secs have been teachers but were
accused of being too cosy with the profession! #ukedchat
davidErogers 20:45
@PhaedScho A different social network and place to gather - theinnovators move on and often forget to help those that nd support
#ukedchat
mtiplady 20:45
#ukedchat doesn't help when some misinformed people dont
understand how twitter can b used positively.
mberry 20:45
@chrisleach78 draft master teacher standards say "they engage
with professional networks beyond the school" sounds like
#ukedchat to me.
jemimaanderson 20:45
@mberry The two are intertwined like teaching and learning. TLCs
set own professional agenda rather than it being from outwith.
#ukedchat
bellaale 20:45
RT @Educationchat: If Headteachers refused to implement any
govt policy they thought wasn't for the benefit of their children
what could govt do? #ukedchat
davidErogers 20:46
@mtiplady But is them being misinformed our fault? How
accessible are we to others? #ukedchat
JCunningham66 20:46
@passionateaboot @cherrylkd #ukedchat works cos you also hit
people who are in business, politics, community groups etc etc.
TheHeadsOffice 20:46
RT @davidErogers: @TheHeadsOffice Our dept meeting will be at a
tearoom on Monday @priorygeography #ukedchat >If there's cake
I'm there!
reflectivemaths 20:46
@bevevans22 there seem to be different strands. But overall
teaching/education needs to be projected positively #ukedchat
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davidErogers 20:46
@TheHeadsOffice Our dept meeting will be at a tearoom on
Monday @priorygeography #ukedchat
tim7168 20:46
@Heatherleatt I'm not really arguing one way or the other, just
interested in other people's views on the matter. #ukedchat
JOHNSAYERS 20:46Look at the success of Comic Relief, Sport Relief.... Schools Relief?Students across the country film for BBC fundraising? #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:46
@reflectivemaths #ukedchat there seem to be different strands.
But overall teaching/education needs to be projected positively
#ukedchat
GeorgeEBlack 20:46
#ukedchat the thing is the students we have now are going to leave
us behind if we don't change and then promote our teaching.
TheHeadsOffice 20:46
RT @reflectivemaths: @bevevans22 What are we trying to make
people hear our collective voice say? #ukedchat >Ideas in last few
mins
BobToms100 20:47
( @philallman1 ) Don't get cynical, be rational, be creative & fresh,
look for supporters with energy & exp rather thn detractors.
#ukedchat
NuttyA10 20:47
@bevevans22 That we work hard, do incredible work & shouldn't
be working longer and longer hours to cure all ills of society!?
#ukedchat
StuartMaginnis 20:47
@mattpearson #ukedchat Vic Goddard and Mr Drew did a great
job in promoting dedicated caring professionals. "educating Essex"
Heatherleatt 20:47
@davidErogers wouldn't say that being on/off Twiiter qualifies
anyone as being a gd/bad tchr, it's what u do in class that counts
#ukedchat
davidErogers 20:47
We have people contacting us and engaging in neotwork as we get
funding in - if there's money then they will come ;-) #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:47
@reflectivemaths To everyone. There is far too much negativity
surrounding education in the UK. #ukedchat
janbaker97 20:47
@TheHeadsOffice @reflectivemaths @bevevans22 #ukedchat that
we are capable professionals doing a damn good job on the whole -
respect us
tim7168 20:47@Heatherleatt Part of me thinks that a more decentralised modelwould get rid of a lot of political bullshit #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:47
Last 15 minutes people. Time to put ideas forward - What are we
trying to make people hear our collective voice say? #ukedchat
MoreThanMaths 20:48
RT @janeconsidine: Do you want to be an outstanding school or a
school that stands out? Promote positive with community &
engage in honest dialogue #ukedchat
rashush2 20:48
@bevevans22 Let us do our jobs! Most of us are quite good
#ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:48
RT @janeconsidine: Do you want to be an outstanding school or aschool that stands out? Promote positive with community &
engage in honest dialogue #ukedchat
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bellaale 20:48
RT @JOHNSAYERS: Look at the success of Comic Relief, Sport
Relief.... Schools Relief? Students across the country film for BBC
fundraising? #ukedchat
GeekPeter 20:48
RT @StuartMaginnis: @mattpearson #ukedchat Vic Goddard and
Mr Drew did a great job in promoting dedicated caring
professionals. "educating Essex"
bevevans22 20:48
RT @barton1875: @davidErogers Its the future, staff meetings inpubs. We wouldn't mind if they went on a bit longer then.
#ukedchat - :)
mberry 20:48
As well as SoS having taught and HMI teaching, much gained
through head *teachers* still *teaching* some of the week.
#ukedchat
NuttyA10 20:48
@dan_bowen @bevevans22 @ianaddison Not helped with primary
either! #ukedchat
philallman1 20:48
RT @janeconsidine: Do you want to be an outstanding school or a
school that stands out? Promote positive with community &
engage in honest dialogue #ukedchatphilallman1 20:48 RT @rossmcgill: @philallman1 get the kids on board?
Mad_teach 20:48
RT @Heatherleatt: It shd be compulsory for a Secretary of State for
Education to have been a serving teacher for a minimum period of
time. 5 yrs+? #ukedchat
barton1875 20:48
@davidErogers Its the future, staff meetings in pubs. We wouldn't
mind if they went on a bit longer then. #ukedchat
Heatherleatt 20:48 @ConsultantHead can only think of Estelle Morris? #ukedchat
headsam 20:48
RT @philallman1: We care, we do wonderful stuff, that its the best
profession in world - if we R allowed 2 do it R way 4 the chn in
front of us! #ukedchat
hobvs 20:48
@Educationchat I really wish they would do this, I think this is the
answer, the time has come. #ukedchat
AntHeald 20:48
@philallman1 isn't that what #purposed has been trying to do?
#ukedchat
rossmcgill 20:48 @philallman1 get the kids on board?
ConsultantHead 20:48 . @thelazyteacher Aren't you following #ukedchat
philallman1 20:48
We care, we do wonderful stuff, that its the best profession in
world - if we R allowed 2 do it R way 4 the chn in front of us!
#ukedchat
DeputyMitchell 20:49
Will we ever see the day when politicians do not have full controlover education? Could the profession take more control? How?
#ukedchat
mattpearson 20:49
@ConsultantHead I would take that as a compliment.... :-)
#ukedchat
ConsultantHead 20:49 @Heatherleatt David Blunkett was an FE lecturer #ukedchat
Heatherleatt 20:49
@tim7168 agree. Areas differ hugely - even within lge LAs. Local
solutions are what's needed. #ukedchat
Biolady99 20:49
RT @StuartMaginnis: @mattpearson #ukedchat Vic Goddard and
Mr Drew did a great job in promoting dedicated caringprofessionals. "educating Essex"
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davidErogers 20:49
@barton1875 Our meeting will probably run over massively on
Monday - but we'll get some great stuff in the bag #ukedchat
NuttyA10 20:49
Let's all English schools boycott all SATs this year and stand up for
what we believe in! #ukedchat
CliveSir 20:49
@SirKenRobinson "Edu is filled politically by ppl who pronounce of
edu but who know nothing about it... one example: Gove"#ukedchat
philallman1 20:49
RT @JCunningham66: @philallman1 #ukedchat using purely a pr
angle, you need to also access the #education briefings via civil
servants. #stayahead of news.
mattpearson 20:49
RT @rashush2: @bevevans22 Let us do our jobs! Most of us are
quite good #ukedchat
Educationchat 20:49
Education needs a better PR person than Gove. Public need to
know how hard the job is, how hard teachers work etc... #ukedchat
philallman1 20:49As a HT is it our responsibility to stand up to the agendas moreforcefully? #ukedchat
NatEdTrust 20:49
RT @janeconsidine: Do you want to be an outstanding school or a
school that stands out? Promote positive with community &
engage in honest dialogue #ukedchat
mikemcsharry 20:49
@passionateaboot loal press are generally very keen on feel good
local stories #ukedchat Would @TheNewStatsman agree?
tim7168 20:49
@jemimaanderson Coaching does my head in. Either tell me the
answer or don't! #ukedchat
JCunningham66 20:49
@philallman1 #ukedchat using purely a pr angle, you need to also
access the #education briefings via civil servants. #stayahead of
news.
ConsultantHead 20:49
I was mistaken for Mr Drew the other day! @mattpearson
#ukedchat
JOHNSAYERS 20:49
An evening of incredible student production work to raise
awareness for issues close to students hearts to help Britain be
Great #ukedchat
TeacherToolkit 20:49 @philallman1
davidErogers 20:49 @Heatherleatt Too right #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:49
RT @rashush2: @bevevans22 Let us do our jobs! Most of us are
quite good #ukedchat
bobharrisonset 20:49
The purpose of education? e-petition for Commons debate
http://t.co/cdREAZ99 #ukedchat
jemimaanderson 20:50
@tim7168 I also said telling has its place. If you just want to be
told what to do fine but I don't, I want a conversation. #ukedchat
tim7168 20:50
RT @MrChambersRE: If kids are predicted below target, our fault.
Over target, something's dodgy. On target, not challenged
#ukedchat #cantwin #teachers
DepJo 20:50
#ukedchat Helps to have a common purpose. Our Dht network
stick together & work across la's with other Dht networks & ht'sacross the region
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philallman1 20:50
RT @mtiplady: @davidErogers not our fault, not theirs. Loads
assume twitter is another facebook. Need to spread the word.
#ukedchat
Educationchat 20:50
Public assume they know what a teacher's job is as they went to
school. Media doesn't help preaching holidays and early finishes!
#ukedchat
enterprisegran 20:50I love it that @JOHNSAYERS thinks big. We need so many moreteachers like him! #ukedchat
NuttyA10 20:50
RT @davidErogers: Gove isn't in my classroom and we shouldn't do
anything for politicians or ofsted but cos it's the right thing to do
#ukedchat
Lynseystott 20:50
RT @MrChambersRE: If kids are predicted below target, our fault.
Over target, something's dodgy. On target, not challenged
#ukedchat #cantwin #teachers
Biolady99 20:50
RT @janeconsidine: Do you want to be an outstanding school or a
school that stands out? Promote positive with community &
engage in honest dialogue #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:50
RT @philallman1: As a HT is it our responsibility to stand up to the
agendas more forcefully? #ukedchat
davidErogers 20:50 @bellaale That would be great fun! #ukedchat
bellaale 20:50
RT @CliveSir: @SirKenRobinson "Edu is filled politically by ppl who
pronounce of edu but who know nothing about it... one example:
Gove" #ukedchat
mtiplady 20:50
@davidErogers not our fault, not theirs. Loads assume twitter is
another facebook. Need to spread the word. #ukedchat
TeacherToolkit 20:50
RT @davidErogers: @Heatherleatt Both. I don;t think that engaging
with Twitter is an automatic entry into being a good teacher ness
#ukedchat
davidErogers 20:50
Gove isn't in my classroom and we shouldn't do anything for
politicians or ofsted but cos it's the right thing to do #ukedchat
rashush2 20:50
@Educationchat Gove isn't a PR person - he's not on our "side" if
there is such a thing #ukedchat
PSHEsolutions 20:50
RT @janeconsidine: Do you want to be an outstanding school or a
school that stands out? Promote positive with community &
engage in honest dialogue #ukedchat
Paddymcgrath 20:50
#ukedchat ifwhat we do already is good then why are so manyyoung people year after year neet or leave edu not being able to
read #justsayin
philallman1 20:50
RT @toots2106: @philallman1 @chrisleach78 every teacher is
expected to blog in my school http://t.co/dLQPs0yU #ukedchat
PhaedScho 20:50
John Holt wrote 'Why children fail in school' in the 1960's - shld be
why children succeed #ukedchat
toots2106 20:50
@philallman1 @chrisleach78 every teacher is expected to blog in
my school http://t.co/dLQPs0yU #ukedchat
philallman1 20:50
RT @DeputyMitchell: Will we ever see the day when politicians donot have full control over education? Could the profession take
more control? How? #ukedchat
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berkholibrarian 20:50
@BDAdyslexia: @neilhimself petition to ensure that all are
trained about dyslexia http://t.co/GJ80xNOU #ukedchat
Educationchat 20:50
RT @NuttyA10: Let's all English schools boycott all SATs this year
and stand up for what we believe in! #ukedchat
DepJo 20:51
#ukedchat Have to say as well that the la's in our region have
supported us all 100% in sticking together
NuttyA10 20:51
That our children only have one chance at this school business so
let's make it a good chance! #ukedchat
TeacherToolkit 20:51
RT @Educationchat: Education needs a better PR person than
Gove. Public need to know how hard the job is, how hard teachers
work etc... #ukedchat
Educationchat 20:51
RT @hobvs: @Educationchat I really wish they would do this, I
think this is the answer, the time has come. #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:51
RT @Educationchat: Education needs Max Clifford! #ukedchat
>Simon Cowell?
Bridgeanne 20:51
RT @ConsultantHead: I'm not even convinced that most people
realise the extent of the imminent profitisation of our entire state
school sector #ukedchat
mikemcsharry 20:51
I am part of a regular forum - business, chambers,federation,local
council - it took a bit of effort to get education involved #ukedchat
NatashaCowan 20:51
RT @Educationchat: Education needs a better PR person than
Gove. Public need to know how hard the job is, how hard teachers
work etc... #ukedchat
10kmk42 20:51
RT @bobharrisonset: The purpose of education? e-petition for
Commons debate http://t.co/cdREAZ99 #ukedchat
ConsultantHead 20:51 When it's gone, it's gone! @davidErogers #ukedchat
Spencerayres 20:51
@NatashaCowan leading from front to start,creating a voice for
others,believe in your methods as well as your content #ukedchat
Educationchat 20:51 Education needs Max Clifford! #ukedchat
Heatherleatt 20:51
RT @Educationchat: Public assume they know what a teacher's job
is as they went to school. Media doesn't help preaching holidays
and early finishes! #ukedchat
Bectully 20:51
#ukedchat I'm not sure I have got my head round this question. I
intend to inspire and encourage others towards excellence locallyand 1/2
JCunningham66 20:51
@passionateaboot @mikemcsharry #ukedchat Press always like
well written, but always add their own piece. Relationship is the
key.
philallman1 20:51
RT @enterprisegran: I love it that @JOHNSAYERS thinks big. We
need so many more teachers like him! #ukedchat
Heatherleatt 20:51
@ConsultantHead true, I'd forgotten about him - there've been so
many!! #ukedchat
TheHeadsOffice 20:52RT @mikemcsharry: Just had a positive response from local papereditor!! #ukedchat >Perhaps we need to tweet to them all!
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PhaedScho 20:52
RT @janeconsidine: Do you want to be an outstanding school or a
school that stands out? Promote positive with community &
engage in honest dialogue #ukedchat
Biolady99 20:52
@davidErogers true, but it does keep you well-informed about
current educational issues etc #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:52
RT @MattFothergill: We need a tv channel dedicated to teachers
to circulate best prac, new innov and a bit of word spreading. Ohyes, been done. #ukedchat
jemimaanderson 20:52
@mikemcsharry Well done that sounds really interesting how
often do you meet and do the kids attend? #ukedchat
headsam 20:52
@philallman1: As a HT is it our responsibility to stand up to the
agendas more forcefully? #ukedchat < why we need 2 stand &
work together
Educationchat 20:52
@rashush2 Exactly. But he should be on our side! He should be
bigging up schools not undermining us all. #ukedchat
Heatherleatt 20:52
@Educationchat Anyone who thinks it's. Doddle to teach, whatwith all the holidays etc, should be made to do it for a year.
#ukedchat
mikemcsharry 20:52 Just had a positive response from local paper editor!! #ukedchat
JCunningham66 20:52
@passionateaboot @bellaale @vickitoria35 @mikemcsharry
Future apprenticeships or employees, AND feel good factor !
#ukedchat
MattFothergill 20:52
We need a tv channel dedicated to teachers to circulate best prac,
new innov and a bit of word spreading. Oh yes, been done.
#ukedchat
mtiplady 20:52
@bevevans22 too much negativity in general be it in education,
sports, youth etc etc. Media promotes negativity #ukedchat
Natty08 20:52
RT @davidErogers: Gove isn't in my classroom and we shouldn't do
anything for politicians or ofsted but cos it's the right thing to do
#ukedchat
PhaedScho 20:52
YOU have to sleep at night - follow what you believe what is the
right thing to do #ukedchat
mattbritland 20:53
RT @Educationchat: Education needs a better PR person than
Gove. Public need to know how hard the job is, how hard teachers
work etc... #ukedchat
rashush2 20:53
@Educationchat True Thse New Labour ads may have been cheesy
but at least they tried to inspire #ukedchat
Spencerayres 20:53 @mtiplady Mass media promotes negativity #ukedchat
Bectully 20:53
#ukedchat try to create a national voice arguing for a non political
solution to leading schools of all types. MPs rarely skilled teachers.
ConsultantHead 20:53
. I mentioned this a few weeks ago, there have been something like
21 during my career @Heatherleatt #ukedchat
_Lebeautemps 20:53
RT @JamiePortman: RT @tim7168: Read rec by Mick Waters thatOfsted inspectors should be required to teach half a term each
year #ukedchat >> Terrfific idea!
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LawrenceBham 20:53
RT @Educationchat: Public assume they know what a teacher's job
is as they went to school. Media doesn't help preaching holidays
and early finishes! #ukedchat
BobToms100 20:53
Don't believe hype, don't believe press & don't believe the Gove...
is it as simple as that? Don't believe them, believe in urself
#ukedchat
GeekPeter 20:53
@Educationchat #ukedchat Maybe the public are sick of hearinghow hard people work? What is the general public perception of
educators?
davidwebster 20:53
@bevevans22 #ukedchat -message must be to resist/combat
media trend (and political aspiration) to endlessly conflate
education & training..?
NatashaCowan 20:54
@Heatherleatt @educationchat #UKEdChat morally is that fair on
the kids though?! Completely agree with the idea and shadowing
though!!
Heatherleatt 20:54 @Educationchat too true! #ukedchat
tim7168 20:54
RT @Educationchat: @Biolady99 Of course they do - but fed up ofhearing how teachers get long holidays and short working days.
Simply not true. #ukedchat
JCunningham66 20:54
@mikemcsharry #ukedchat as part of #youngchamberuk I am being
asked all the time by schools to get businesses involved. Varies
regionally?
Educationchat 20:54
@Biolady99 Of course they do - but fed up of hearing how teachers
get long holidays and short working days. Simply not true.
#ukedchat
reflectivemaths 20:54
#ukedchat Devil's advocate - does being a teacher mean you have a
good grasp of all things to do with education, inc funding etc?
GeorgeEBlack 20:54
#ukedchat we need to engage with students in the way they know
and get on with it, then point out how well it's working when it
does.
StuartLock 20:54
@davidErogers much easier said than done. Also easy to convince
self it's the right thing #ukedchat
DepJo 20:54 @davidErogers agree! #ukedchat
ConsultantHead 20:54
Gove's job isn't PR for schools and nor is he the leader of education
@Educationchat #ukedchat
DepJo 20:54
#ukedchat We have history of sticking together.Our whole la of
schls boycotted the sats. Every single one even if they disagreed.Solidarity
mberry 20:54
@DeputyMitchell some of Gove's rhetoric says that, but I fear his
actions are speaking louder than his words in this respect.
#ukedchat
PeterSpencer88 20:54
@MattFothergill #ukedchat exactly, we need this government to
stop cutting back our resources, and then complain about poor
practice
rene_koglbauer 20:54
@Educationchat completely right. Just been at a meeting where
heads complaining about policies I suggested this to them
#ukedchat
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PhaedScho 20:54
RT @Heatherleatt: @Educationchat Anyone who thinks it's. Doddle
to teach, what with all the holidays etc, should be made to do it for
a year. #ukedchat
Stephen_Logan 20:54
Interesting topic tonight on #ukedchat following the tweets very
good points made.
BobbyCarrot8 20:54
RT @TheHeadsOffice: Teachmeets & twitter etc are great but we
need to convince more HTs to encourage staff to get involved#ukedchat
SheliBB 20:54
@Educationchat our parents (and governors) are often stunned to
see that some of us are still at work after 6. Big misconceptions
#ukedchat
davidErogers 20:54
@Biolady99 True but So does watching the telly and reading the
TES though ;-) #ukedchat
HilaryNunns 20:54
RT @reflectivemaths To everyone. There is far too much negativity
surrounding education in the UK. #ukedchat" often from within!
Heatherleatt 20:54
RT @CliveSir: @SirKenRobinson "Edu is filled politically by ppl whopronounce of edu but who know nothing about it... one example:
Gove" #ukedchat
MartindalePaul 20:55
Politicians not int in the professions voice - will have conv everyone
to academies soon & we'll just be a way of inc profits! #ukedchat
jamie_daniels 20:55
@PeterSpencer88 #ukedchat does rolling out that argument
heighten views of teachers? There they go moaning again....?
Heatherleatt 20:55
@ConsultantHead that many? Why am I not surprised. Great pub
quiz question - who could name them all? #ukedchat
TeacherToolkit 20:55
Profession needs positive PR to improve profile/respect/quality &
outcomes. #Gove & limited #natcurr, #teachToTheTest doesn't
help #UKEdChat
JOHNSAYERS 20:55
@enterprisegran is it big think of an evening that involved most if
not all schools? A minute each or 2!? #ukedchat
JCunningham66 20:55
@passionateaboot @mikemcsharry @thenewstatsman #ukedchat
no. Teachers haven't time. It's a more specific role.
Smichael920 20:55#ukedchat whenever press, parents etc visit sch they're always fullof praise for staff & job they do. We need to open the doors more
bevevans22 20:55
5 more minutes to get your voice heard on tonight's #ukedchat.
Any final thoughts you want to share?
Educationchat 20:55
@Biolady99 Well we do get good holidays - but we work in most of
them and we don't get paid for them. #ukedchat
BobbyCarrot8 20:55
RT @JamiePortman: RT @tim7168: Read rec by Mick Waters that
Ofsted inspectors should be required to teach half a term each
year #ukedchat >> Terrfific idea!
ukedchat 20:55 Last five minutes of #ukedchat
rashush2 20:55Also most people think their local school is good while believingthe media that most sch failing... #ukedchat
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Heatherleatt 20:56
RT @TeacherToolkit: Profession needs positive PR to improve
profile/respect/quality & outcomes. #Gove & limited #natcurr,
#teachToTheTest doesn't help #UKEdChat
PhilWheeler1 20:56
Does anyone teach a GCSE ICT course (non vocational) with any
success? Which course(s) are they? #ukedchat #ictcurric
mikemcsharry 20:56
RT @jcunningham66: @passionateaboot @mikemcsharry@TheNewStatsman #ukedchat no. Teachers haven't time. It's a
more specific role.
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PhaedScho 20:57
RT @GeekPeter: #ukedchat Convincing non-Twitter education staff
to join is tricky as you're trying to get busy people to take up more
of their own time.
jamie_daniels 20:57 @dockers_hoops #ukedchat or Suffolk ed?
Biolady99 20:57
@Educationchat yes, for example, my husband works in the food
industry....silly hours for the majority of the year #ukedchat
PhaedScho 20:57
RT @davidErogers: Although tech helps me develop and I love
being a geek, I still think that face to face is the way to build lasting
relationships #ukedchat
ConsultantHead 20:57
.@Heatherleatt Some are extremely easily forgotten - John Patten
anyone? #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:57
@mattpearson Are you suggesting that getting into teaching
should be made more difficult? #ukedchat
TeacherToolkit 20:57 @HistoryGeekUK @educationchat
PeterSpencer88 20:57
@Smichael920 by encouraging children to blog about school we
can kill many birds with one stone #ukedchat
JCunningham66 20:57
@passionateaboot @mikemcsharry @thenewstatsman #ukedchat
Position your own HT to be a first port of call for #education
comment locally.
johnmayo 20:58
#ukedchat #edchatie we should not be doing what the finns have
done rather what they are going to do
GeekPeter 20:58
#ukedchat I come back to my post that no one seems to have
noticed. What is the collective message and who is it addressed
to?
mikemcsharry 20:58 there are 3 'handling the media' videos on teachers tv #ukedchat
barton1875 20:58
@johnmayo was the change in Finland driven by politics or the
profession? #ukedchat
ConsultantHead 20:58
Depends on what you want to do - build people up or knock them
down @Educationchat #ukedchat
KevinBrennanMP 20:58
RT @philallman1: @patglassmp @jimpknight @stephentwigg
#ukedchat 2morrow nite might interest U. Real educators wanting
2 hve their voice hrd 8pm Thurs. PlsRT
In2schools 20:58
Been following a busy and idea bustling #ukedchat tonight with
interest, observer rather than participant but lots to think about as
result
Paddymcgrath 20:58
@bevevans22: @mattpearson Are you suggesting that getting
into teaching should be made more difficult? #ukedchat yep
more rigour
GeorgeEBlack 20:58
#ukedchat we are obviously proud of what we do - we just have to
go out and tell the world by whatever means possible.
Heatherleatt 20:58 @ConsultantHead Who? #ukedchat
Biolady99 20:58 @Educationchat i agree with you #ukedchat
bevevans22 20:58RT @tim7168: @bevevans22 I think training definitely needs to bebetter. #ukedchat - Training sounds like a future discussion topic...
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mattpearson 20:58
@bevevans22 not necessarily, just commenting on Finland and
contrasting it with England #ukedchat
passionateaboot 20:58
#ukedchat Unashamed plug - the MLDP course run by
@the_college is free at the moment take this opportunity before it
costs you thousands s.
millsyblue 20:58
A summary of what I've read this evening... #ukedchat
http://t.co/0Ss0JG1w
AntHeald 20:58
@Smichael920 yes: my brother's a journo who now does some pr
work for a school: he was amazed at good stories that never get
out #ukedchat
Bectully 20:58
@mattpearson #ukedchat YES! Think sabbaticals and chance to
further studies such a significant part of recreating standing of our
profession
PatGlassMP 20:58
RT @philallman1: @patglassmp @jimpknight @stephentwigg
#ukedchat 2morrow nite might interest U. Real educators wanting
2 hve their voice hrd 8pm Thurs. PlsRT
davidErogers 20:58
@StuartLock that is very very true, it's why my approach is to act
then talk about it #ukedchat
bitsy1603 20:59
RT @davidErogers: Gove isn't in my classroom and we shouldn't do
anything for politicians or ofsted but cos it's the right thing to do
#ukedchat
johnmayo 20:59
RT @barton1875: @johnmayo was the change in Finland driven by
politics or the profession? #ukedchat >> Don't know but someone
might :-)
NuttyA10 20:59
@mattpearson @Bectully Agreed then more would stick to
profession without burning out. #ukedchat
mberry 20:59
@PhaedScho Holt's How Children Learn came out in 1967, three
years after How Children Fail. Both are still v good, IMHO
#ukedchat
Reesiepie 20:59
Posted this earlier today - perhaps relevant for #ukedchat? What
Americans Keep Ignoring About Finland's School Success
http://t.co/ASDExyPk
GeekPeter 20:59 #ukedchat I think social work has far worse press than education
StuartLock 20:59
@davidErogers someone said do it and seek forgiveness rather
than ask permission then do it. #ukedchat might have been
@thelazyteacher
mattpearson 20:59
@Bectully I believe every teacher should get 1 term of sabbatical
for every 2 years taught. Chance to reinspire themselves...
#ukedchat
NuttyA10 20:59
RT @millsyblue: A summary of what I've read this evening...
#ukedchat http://t.co/0Ss0JG1w
Spencerayres 20:59
@NatashaCowan Agreed, but we have to do, rather than discuss
doing! #ukedchat
mattpearson 21:00
@GeekPeter this is true, when teachers get it wrong kids don't
learn much, when social workers get it wrong kids die :-( #ukedchat
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How do we as the real education profs
make our collective voice heard in 2012?
christoclifford 21:00
RT @davidErogers: Gove isn't in my classroom and we shouldn't do
anything for politicians or ofsted but cos it's the right thing to do
#ukedchat
HilaryNunns 21:00
RT @tim7168: @bevevans22 I think training definitely needs to be
better. #ukedchat
Spencerayres 21:00
RT @NatashaCowan: #UKEdChat I think we also need to change the
general perception & value of education. In Asia it is highlyrespected by society, is it here?
Smichael920 21:00
Dead right! RT @PeterSpencer88: @Smichael920 by encouraging
children to blog about school we can kill many birds with one stone
#ukedchat
NuttyA10 21:00
#ukedchat Wow what a fast and good ukedchat tonight. Many
thanks to @ukedchat @philallman1 @bevevans22
@TheHeadsOffice for hosting
NatashaCowan 21:00
#UKEdChat I think we also need to change the general perception
& value of education. In Asia it is highly respected by society, is it
here?
teacherstation 21:00
As a teacher if you could have one wish with your planning what
would it be? #teacherstation #ukedchat
LiamRCarr 21:00
@Bectully We need good, well funded schools it doesnt matter if
we call them academies, free schools or just 'schools' #ukedchat
ukedchat 21:00
It's 9pm. Many thanks to @philallman1 for hosting this #ukedchat
session