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nycruza Senior Member Super Geek Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,408 Real Name: A.J. Note: This is NOT political only my personal perspective. Really could care less! Whether they do or don't life goes on. In the greater scheme of things it is as important as a single grain of sand on a beach. But I bet it will be sometime before BP stops the leak or unemployment falls below the 9 - 10%, both of which is far more significant and effecting far more lives, then a handful of movements. I know the movement in my timepiece to be authentic and I believe they were obtained by legal/lawful means. Did DD work directly, indirectly, at all with Invicta. Don't care! What the problem is and/or how it occurred? Interesting reading, but don't care. How it will be corrected, interesting but since I am not the one making the repairs, don't care. So why don't I care regarding this timepeice, because it has no effect on my life or a majority of life. What DO I care about with regards to this timepiece? That I have a completely functional timepiece - I do! That IF a problem arises in the future it will be taken care of - It will! BTW - these have no effect on my life or the majority of life either. So my suggestion for today - for all the present and future dad's, have a Happy Father's Day. __________________

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But I bet it will be sometime before BP stops the leak or unemployment falls below the 9 - 10%, both of which is far more significant and effecting far more lives, then a handful of movements. Whether they do or don't life goes on. In the greater scheme of things it is as important as a single grain of sand on a beach. I know the movement in my timepiece to be authentic and I believe they were obtained by legal/lawful means. Did DD work directly, indirectly, at all with Invicta. Don't care!

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nycruza Senior Member

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Note:

This is NOT political only my personal perspective.

Really could care less!

Whether they do or don't life goes on. In the greater scheme of things it is as important as

a single grain of sand on a beach.

But I bet it will be sometime before BP stops the leak or unemployment falls below the 9 -

10%, both of which is far more significant and effecting far more lives, then a handful of

movements.

I know the movement in my timepiece to be authentic and I believe they were obtained by

legal/lawful means. Did DD work directly, indirectly, at all with Invicta. Don't care!

What the problem is and/or how it occurred? Interesting reading, but don't care.

How it will be corrected, interesting but since I am not the one making the repairs, don't

care.

So why don't I care regarding this timepeice, because it has no effect on my life or a

majority of life.

What DO I care about with regards to this timepiece?

That I have a completely functional timepiece - I do!

That IF a problem arises in the future it will be taken care of - It will!

BTW - these have no effect on my life or the majority of life either.

So my suggestion for today - for all the present and future dad's, have a Happy Father's

Day.

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I hope soon !! I may be wrong but still have not herd anything on the mold

problem with the venom kits . I have sent a pm but no reply .

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The CEO of a rather large watch company was basically called a "liar" at his

website. Then there was evidence brought forward to support that claim. This can not be a

good thing. If he(Eyal) never says anything about It then he Is guilty as charged, at least In

many peoples minds. Many consumers who buy watches and o

Internet Is a wonderful tool. To have something like this hanging over ones head cant be

good for business. Maybe Im wrong, It would not be the first time. I just dont see a

"statement" of any kind comming after all this time ha

SANIII on the Rocks with a Twist of Lemon

I hope soon !! I may be wrong but still have not herd anything on the mold

problem with the venom kits . I have sent a pm but no reply .

The CEO of a rather large watch company was basically called a "liar" at his own sponsored

website. Then there was evidence brought forward to support that claim. This can not be a

good thing. If he(Eyal) never says anything about It then he Is guilty as charged, at least In

many peoples minds. Many consumers who buy watches and other Items do research, the

Internet Is a wonderful tool. To have something like this hanging over ones head cant be

good for business. Maybe Im wrong, It would not be the first time. I just dont see a

"statement" of any kind comming after all this time has passed, I voted never.

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own sponsored

website. Then there was evidence brought forward to support that claim. This can not be a

good thing. If he(Eyal) never says anything about It then he Is guilty as charged, at least In

ther Items do research, the

Internet Is a wonderful tool. To have something like this hanging over ones head cant be

good for business. Maybe Im wrong, It would not be the first time. I just dont see a

s passed, I voted never.

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Originally Posted by knapplink

There is a reason for the delay. Invicta has hired Isaiah Mustafa to deliver the news. If you

don't know Isaiah Mustafa, he's the actor in the Old Spice Commercials.

I'm lucky enough to have receive a screen capture and copy of the script. Hope you enjoy.

"Hello, geeks, look at your watch, now back to mine, now back at your watch, now back to

mine. Sadly, yours may be broken, and we apologize. Look down, back up, where are you?

You’re on my Invicta yacht with the watch of your dreams. What’s in your hand, back at

me. I have it, it’s an oyster with a yellow box containing that watch you love. Look again,

the yellow box is now diamonds. Anything is possible when Invicta is at the helm. I’m on a

horse."

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No matter how one feels about this whole thing .............. This was one of the best

posts yet!! LMAO!!! Thanks Bro!!!

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Originally Posted by Tandi

It really makes no sense for them to say anything more about this festering turd of a

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watch they hoisted upon the unwitting public. Sooner or later people will move on and it

will get brushed under the rug. It is the Clinton school of how to handle a scandal, I am

just waiting to see if the proverbial stained blue dress comes to light.

Since I own this watch and mine works fine, I think your terms "festering turd" are a bit

strong. I think you might be correct with your overall opinion, just be careful about your

insults.

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Now that the movements have been deemed original i figure theres not much else to say

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As I have already mentioned, all Invicta purchases for me are on hold until we get conflicting

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Since I own this watch and mine works fine, I think your terms "festering turd" are a bit

strong. I think you might be correct with your overall opinion, just be careful about your

insults.

I am happy you got a working one but, anything with a 50% catastrophic defect rate earns

that title. How would you feel about a new car that would only start 50% of the the time or,

a specific model TV that 50% did not work, it is a lemon of epic proportions. Don't mean to

offend you but, what would you call it?

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sunaruSenior Member

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff meade

I hope soon !! I may be wrong but still have not herd anything on the mold

problem with the venom kits . I have sent a pm but no reply .

yeah its hard to get answers on

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Now that the movements have been deemed original i figure theres not much else to say

you would think woudnt you bignoize but aparently there is alot to say

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Yesterday, 05:38 PM

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jeff meade

I hope soon !! I may be wrong but still have not herd anything on the mold

problem with the venom kits . I have sent a pm but no reply .

yeah its hard to get answers on things that never happened...

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BIGNOIZE

Now that the movements have been deemed original i figure theres not much else to say

you would think woudnt you bignoize but aparently there is alot to say

Did you see that? Do they all got hedges like that? Do they?

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I did not even look at the sundayrun!

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I have a dd and have a case # dont need to hear my watch is a turd.

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153 of 300 and may never be made again. if it gets fixed right I'LL KEEP IT.

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I believe it will be toward the end of the week, probably around thursday

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Look...many of you MAY not care about this....

that is your prerogative ....

but what I think you fail to realize is that this has MUCH bigger implications for

future issues...

If Invicta misrepresented the truth about DD....

which I am still waiting for an answer...

Then what does mean about their honesty the next time around...

on ANYTHING ELSE they claim....

THAT...is the real story behind this story

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Yesterday, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wave3214

I believe it will be toward the end of the week, probably around thursday

That was the impression last week.

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Yesterday, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by timeman

Invicta made numerous claims about it's association with D

watch. In Mr. Becker's D-D letter

never a customer of D-D. As a result D

report. Invicta will have a lot of explaining and I'm sure any statement will be reviewed if

not written by It!s legal department.

This statement "assumes" that everything Mr. Becker said is 100 % fact. I have not seen

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I believe it will be toward the end of the week, probably around thursday

That was the impression last week.

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Invicta made numerous claims about it's association with D-D in the production of the

D letter he said there was no such partnership, and Invicta was

D. As a result D-D will have very little to contribute to this joint

report. Invicta will have a lot of explaining and I'm sure any statement will be reviewed if

!s legal department.

This statement "assumes" that everything Mr. Becker said is 100 % fact. I have not seen

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D in the production of the

he said there was no such partnership, and Invicta was

D will have very little to contribute to this joint

report. Invicta will have a lot of explaining and I'm sure any statement will be reviewed if

This statement "assumes" that everything Mr. Becker said is 100 % fact. I have not seen

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proof of that. I have not seen emails from the owners of DD that there was no relationship

whatsoever. Until I see Mr. Becker's statement proved, I have to give the benefit of the

doubt to Invicta. Innocent until proven guilty. But

of some sort or I will not be purchasing more Invicta's any time soon.

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How would anyone know what to believe anymore?

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Yesterday, 08:50 PM

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Sorry , way later wayyyyyy later, that just what I think. after I got hosed on the Reserve

Lupha blue sandstone for 750.00 then a week 11/2 later on giltman.com for 235.00 that was

hard to swollow you know.

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proof of that. I have not seen emails from the owners of DD that there was no relationship

Until I see Mr. Becker's statement proved, I have to give the benefit of the

doubt to Invicta. Innocent until proven guilty. But - they have to come out with a statement

of some sort or I will not be purchasing more Invicta's any time soon.

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Sorry , way later wayyyyyy later, that just what I think. after I got hosed on the Reserve

Lupha blue sandstone for 750.00 then a week 11/2 later on giltman.com for 235.00 that was

proof of that. I have not seen emails from the owners of DD that there was no relationship

Until I see Mr. Becker's statement proved, I have to give the benefit of the

they have to come out with a statement

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tandi

It really makes no sense for them to say anything more about this festering turd of a

watch they hoisted upon the unwitting public. Sooner or later people will move on and it

will get brushed under the rug. It is the Clinton school of how to handle a scandal, I am

just waiting to see if the proverbial stained blue dress comes to light.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tandi

I am happy you got a working one but, anything with a 50% catastrophic defect rate earns

that title. How would you feel about a new car that would only start 50% of the the time

or, a specific model TV that 50% did not work, it is a lemon of epic proportions. Don't

mean to offend you but, what would you call it?

Do you have facts on the EXACT # of watches that had problems? I doubt it very much. And

please leave derogatory political statements out of this forum. This is not the place for your

personal issues.

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Quote:

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I am happy you got a working one but, anything with a 50% catastrophic defect rate earns

that title. How would you feel about a new car that would only start 50% of the the time

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or, a specific model TV that 50% did not work, it is a lemon of epic proportions. Don't

mean to offend you but, what would you call it?

I'd call it a success, if I happen to be the owner of such a working and non-problematic

watch.

You can call it dodging a bullet, or just getting lucky.

I call it glass half full.

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I hope soon !! I may be wrong but still have not herd anything on the mold

problem with the venom kits . I have sent a pm but no reply .

That's a bit off-topic.

You may want to start another thread, or look for one on that subject.

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Yesterday, 08:59 PM

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In this day of Internet, email, instant messaging, global cell phone, etc. I find it very difficult

to believe that a company could not get news out quicker. Heck, whenever my boss wants a

meeting. No matter where you are in the world you better get on that call.

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Do you have facts on the EXACT # of watches that had problems? I doubt it very much.

And please leave derogatory political statements out of this forum. This is not the place for

your personal issues.

See the thread containing the poll about defective DD Speedways. I know the respondents

are not all of the people who purchased but the rules of statistics say a sample size of that

size, given the total number sold, gives a high confidence rate of 95% of that data. At least

that is what someone posted on that thread (or another of these DD threads), who probably

knows more about statistics than I.

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See the thread containing the poll about defective DD Speedways. I know the respondents

are not all of the people who purchased but the rules of statistics say a sample size of that

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size, given the total number sold, gives a high confidence rate of 95% of that data. At least

that is what someone posted on that thread (or another of these DD threads), who

probably knows more about statistics than I.

I am only interested in the facts. Online surveys can't ever be trusted, ever.

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This statement "assumes" that everything Mr. Becker said is 100 % fact. I have not seen

proof of that....snipped

There were sustantiated emails from both Eric Metzger and Christopher Becker from

Dubois-Depraz with regards to the fact that

• There has never been a sale of movements from DD to invicta. Invicta is not a

customer of their company.

• Prior to this D.D. Debacle, There has been NO communication between Invicta or any

known--or appropriately identified--Invicta representative with DD.

• DD has assumed NO responsibility for any faults, claims or other issues supposedly

advanced by Invicta, or anyone else acting in their name.

• If someone else--especially an already registered customer--has purchased our

modules and resold them to Invicta, they are reponsible for any issues which may

arise. I am the only official purchase conduit for any US address, and Invicta has never done any business with me or any official DD representative.

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Yesterday, 09:51 PM

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The statement will come when both Invicta AND D-D have a statement ready.

These are two significant companies, and both are releasing statements from the top of the

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executive offices in each... it won't be overnight. Sorry for the delay.

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Your candor in the explanation reveals the nature of the relationship you ha

your viewers.

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executive offices in each... it won't be overnight. Sorry for the delay.

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Your candor in the explanation reveals the nature of the relationship you have formed with

ve formed with