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20.10MB / 476.84MB (4.22%)Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:23:31 -0400From: "" > Is that what we did last time?>>> Quoting " " :>> > Tom:> >> > The rest of team 1 made a couple minor edits to your paragraphs. I hope> > these> > are ok with you! Paragraph 4 is exactly the same as yours, but I have> > reproduced it below anyway, for completeness. I believe Stephanie will be> > sending you some additional information.> >> > Here are the revised paragraphs:> >> > Panel One: Militant Islam has spawned a series of terrorist groups, most> > notably Al Qaida, with unprecedented global reach and lethality. What is> the> >> > mix of factors fertilizing this phenomenon and causing it to spread> > globally?> >> > Panel Two: Al Qaida and its allies represent a new, far more complex> > terrorist> > organization than the relatively narrowly focused, often single issue> groups> > of> > the past. How did Al Qaida arise? Why did it evolve as it has?> >> > Panel Three: What leads a government to support terrorism? How does it> > perceive the costs and advantages of such support? Does that perception> > change> > over time? Why? Has Al Qaida's possession of substantial resources> > independent of any state changed a potential sponsor's calculus? How> > significant is the ideology of such groups, especially Al Qaida's> > revolutionary

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To: Gilles Kepel 4?Cc: "" 4J,"" 4|,"" 4f,"" 4PSubject: Re: Commission web siteDear Professor Kepel,Thank you for your e-mail. I am responding by e-mail rather than by phonebecause it is currently 3 AM Paris time.First, the entire hearing, including your panel, will occur on the 9th. (Yourpanel will be from 9 to 11 AM on the 9th. There will be two other panels laterin the day.)Second, we will pay for business class. (Thank you for graciously pointing outthat you do not need reimbursement for a hotel room.)Third, the other members of your panel are 1)former Assistant Secretary ofState Richard Murphy, who is with the Council on Foreign Relations; 2)Professor John Esposito, who is Director of the Center for Christian-MuslimUnderstanding at Georgetown University; and 3) independent scholar StevenEmerson.We will call you tomorrow (Wednesday) afternoon or evening Paris time tofinalize and confirm. Thank you!Yoel TobinStaff MemberNational Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

Quoting Gilles Kepel : ' > Dear Mr Tobin> I'm now back in my Paris office. Could you be so kind as to give me a ring> as soon as you read this e-mail, as I have to tighten my schedule if we> want to make it? It would actually be more convenient for me were it to> take place on the 9th rather than the eight.> Many thanks for letting me know asap

> All best> GK

> At 10:29 19/06/03 -0400, vous avez ecrit:> >Dear Professor Kepel:> >It was a pleasure talking to you today. If you would like to learn more> >about> >the Commission, our web site is http://www.9-llcommission.gov . As we> >discussed, I will call you shortly to follow up on our discussion today.

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> >Yoel Tobin> >Staff Member> >National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

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Panel One-SPEAKERS FO R 3 K U SET OF PUBLIC HEARINGS '

;? W hy Now?Bernard Lewis, emeri tus professor at PrincetonGilles Keppel, French scholar f"

Crenshaw. Wesleyan University in ConnecticutKaren Armstrong, independent scholar

Panel Two- Emergence of Specifiq flvoiros--Rohan Gunaratna. University of St Andrews- Al QaidaSteven Emerson, independent scholar.

>0.,Mamoun Fandy- Professor, NDU , - S sdi Islamist oppositionr?' Marc Sageman- Al Qaida1 V^v-- --x

Panel Three - States and Terrorist GroupsLaurie Myh-oie- Iraq

HPhoebe Marr- Iraq

Telhami. Professor at Maryland. H ow Arab States see costs/benefits of^/".^Sponsorship? - ) ) Richard M urphy, Counci l on Foreign Relations. U S Policies and the Rise of IslamistFundamental ism

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Subject: Commissionweb siteDear Professor Kepel:It was a pleasure talking to you today. If youwould like to learn more aboutthe Commission, our web site is http://www.9-llcommission.gov . As wediscussed, I will call you shortly to follow up on our discussion today.Yoel TobinStaff MemberNational Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

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Subject: Calling witnessesTeam 1 witness contacts:We have guidance from Lee but haven't yet closed the loop with Tom.Nonetheless, we should proceed as follows:1) We will2) Invite all 16 witnesses"?"3) Indicate to first panel witnesses that we are likely to hold the panel onmorning of July 9th, but there is a possibility that we would have their panelon Tues. afternoon July 8th.4) Guidance for the other panels follows: Panel 2, Wed. morning, time TBD;Panel 3 late-morning, early afternoon, TBD; panel 4 afetrnoon, time tbd.

The philosophy above is (a) all 16 are solid witnesses; (b) If all 16 accept,we really can't handle them all in one day; (c) If we have up to 12 or 13witnesses, we can handle them in one day.

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All: Looks good to me, with one addition. As a last sentence for each panelparagraph, please add the following: "What are your specific recommendationsfor U.S. policy?'Stephanie, Melissa: Are you putting in Philip's name on the signature line? \s that what

> Tom:>> The rest of team 1 made a couple minor edits to your paragraphs. I hope> these> are ok with you! Paragraph 4 is exactly the same as yours, but I have> reproduced it below anyway, for completeness. I believe Stephanie will be> sending you some additional information.>> Here are the revised paragraphs:,-> Panel One: Militant Islam has spawned a series of terrorist groups, most> notably Al Qaida, with unprecedented global reach and lethality. What is the> mix of factors fertilizing this phenomenon and causing it to spread> globally?">> Panel Two: Al Qaida and its allies represent a new, far more complex> terrorist ;> organization than the relatively narrowly focused, often single issue groups> of> the past. How did Al Qaida arise? Why did it evolve as it has?>> Panel Three: What leads a government to support terrorism? How does it> perceive the costs and advantages of such support? Does that perception> change> over time? Why? Has Al Qaida's possession of substantial resources> independent of any state changed a potential sponsor's calculus? How> significant is the ideology of such groups, especially Al Qaida's> revolutionary> ambitions, to potential sponsors?>> Panel Four - - What is the likely future of Al Qaida and its allies? Growing>> power? Or are they already declining? What factors will contribute to that> evolution? What exactly is the importance of US regional policies and> actions> to the future of such groups?>>>>

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> > Panel One - Since the 1960's, the Middle East has spawned a series of> > terrorist groups, most notably Al Qaida, with unprecedented global reach> and> >> > lethality. Why has the Middle East proved so fertile a ground for such> > groups? What mix of factors produce this phenomenon? Are those underlying>> > causes essentially unique to the Middle East or do they represent more> global> >> > problems?> >> > Panel Two - Al Qaida and its allies represent a new, far more complex> > terrorist> > organization than the relatively narrowly focused, often single issue> Middle> >> > Eastern groups of the past. How did Al Qaida arise? Why did it evolve as> it> >> > has? What are the stresses within Al Qaida? Are there factors which> could> > , .> > limit its future evolution? Can it adapt to those factors? Will it?> >> > Panel Three - What leads a government to support terrorism? How does it> > perceive the costs and advantages of such support? Does that perception> > change over time? Why? Does Al Qaida's possession of substantial> resources> >> > independent of any state change a potential sponsor's calculus? How> > significant is the ideology of such groups, especially Al Qaida' s> > revolutionary> > ambitions, to potential sponsors?> >> > Panel Four - What is the likely future of Al Qaida and its allies? Growing>> > power? Or are they already declining? What factors will contribute to> that> >> > evolution? What exactly is the importance of US regional policies and> > actions> > to the future of such groups?

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HI,attached are the four draft paras giving purpose fo r each panel. Pis. let meknow whpp approve;^ and I will start making calls for mvspeakers. Sorry I am'stuck at home but calling should not be a problem"." Thanks, Tom

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Dear Professor Kepel,The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States will beholding a public hearing on terrorism and the world of militant Islam inWashington D.C. next month. The Commission will be hearing from several panelsof experts, and we would be very interested in your appearing on one of thesepanels. The precise date will likely be the morning of July 9, 2003, althoughthere is some possibility that the date for your panel will be the afternoon ofJuly 8, 2003.If you might be interested in participating, please call us as soon as possibleat 202-331-4060, and ask for Tom Dowling or Yoel Tobin. (Similarly, if you areunable to attend, please inform us as soon as possible by e-mail or phone.) Wewould be happy to provide you with more information about the Commission, thehearing, travel expenses, etc. Also, if you do wish to appear, we will sendyou a formal letter of invitation later this week.Thank you for considering this request, and we look forward to hearing from you.Yoel TobinStaff MemberNational Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

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Subject: panel discussionbefore US Government comm issionDear Professor Kepel,The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States will beholding a public hearing on terrorism and the world of militant Islam inWashington D.C.next month. The Commission will be hearing from several panelsof experts, and we would be very interested in your appearing on one of thesepanels. The precise date will likely be the morning of July 9, 2003, althoughthere is some possibility that the date for your panel will be the afternoon ofJuly 8, 2003.If you might be interested in participating, please call us as soon as possibleat 202-331-4060, and ask for Tom Dowling or Yoel Tobin. (Similarly, if you areunable to attend, please inform us as soon as possible by e-mail or phone.) Wewould be happy to provide you with more information about the Commission, thehearing, travel expenses, etc.Also, if you do wish to appear, we will sendyou a formal letter of invitation later this week.Thank you for considering this request, and we look forward to hearing fromyou.Yoel TobinStaff MemberNational Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

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National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United StatesPublic Hearing July 9,2003 - Location TBD

Draft Agenda for "Terrorism, Al Qaeda, and the Muslim World"9:00 AM Hearing Commences

Opening Statement by Chairman KeanPANEL ONE: The Roots of TurmoilRichard Murphy, Hasib J. Sabbagh Senior Fellow for the Middle East at the CouncilonForeign RelationsGilles Kepel, Professor, Institute of Political Studies, Paris and author of Jihad: Th e Trailof Political IslamSteven Emerson, Executive Director of the Investigative Project and author of AmericanJihad: Th e Terrorists Living Among UsJohn Esposito, Professor of Religion and International Affairs and of Islamic Studies,andFounding Director, Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding, Georgetown University

11:00 AM PANEL TWO: Al QaedaRohan Gunaratna, Head of Terrorism Research and Associate Professor, Institute forDefenceand Strategic Studies, Singapore and author of Inside Al Qaeda: GlobalNetwork of TerrorMamoun Fandy, Senior Fellow, United States Institute of Peace and author of Saudi Arabiaand the Politics of DissentMarc Sageman, member, American Psychological Association presidential panel on terrorism

1:00 PM Break2:00 PM PANEL THREE: States and Terrorism

Laurie Mylroie, author of Study of Revenge: Saddam Hussein's Unfinished W ar AgainstAmericaJudith Yaphe, Senior Research Fellow and Middle East Project Director, Institute forNationalStrategic Studies, National Defense UniversityMurhaf Jouejati, Scholar-in-Residence at the Middle East Institute and a lecturer atGeorgetown UniversityMark Gasiorowski, Professor of Political Science, Louisiana State University

4:00 PM Hearing Concludes. Press availability to follow.

All times and panels ar e subject to change. Visit www.9-llcommission.gov fo r the most current information.


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Dear Friends:Please be advised that the 9-11 Commission will hold a hearing on WednesdayJuly 9th in Washington, D.C. The topic will be "Terrorism, Al Qaeda, and theMuslim World". We plan several panels and have invited leading experts totestify about the genesis of Al Qaeda and its future. This.' hould provide astrong foundation for the Commission's investigation and its/finalrecommendations and provide an opportunity to heighten public understanding ofAl Qaeda.We would like to hold a telephone conference call prior to the hearing onThursday, June 26 at 10:00 am EST with your groups, the family liaisons, andmembers of the team investigating Al Qaeda.Please call:1-888-857-2295Passcode: 1848646202The purpose of this call is to further explain the intent of the hearing andalso to hear your questions and concerns. Please introduce yourself at thebeginning of the call and when you speak so the Commission team can identifyyou.We would ask that you post the hearing date and topic on your web-site and, "ifyou have not done so already, create a link to www.9-llcommission.gov.A press release will be forwarded to you next week with a more specific agendaand location for the July 9 hearing.Future public hearings are tentatively scheduled for the following dates:

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September 9-10, October 14-15, November 19-20, January 29-30, Feb. TBD, MarchTBDMost of the hearings will be in Washington, although not all. We will adviseyou as soon as we can on the location and topics.If you have any questions, please call our temporary number at the NY Office at26 Federal Plaza which opened last week: 347-804-7019. The permanent phoneswill be operating soon and the main number is 212-264-1505. The new emailaddress for the family liaison is [email protected]. We wouldappreciate you including this address on all correspondence as it makestracking and response more organized for us.We look forward to your participation on the June 26th call.Emily Walker and Ellie Hartz


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Subject: teleconference summary; letter and questions sent to CommissionTo: Philip Zelikow June 28, 2003Dear Philip,Below, please find three items:* a summary of points raised during the conference call on June 26 , withAdditional clarifying comments* a copy of the letter the FSC sent to the Commissioners and staff members whoparticipated in the teleconference ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~* _a_list of questions about Al Qaeda and state-sponsored terrorism for theCommissioners and Team 1. ~~ .Carol Ashley

Notes from Conference Call with Team 1June 267 2003J ~ ,(,-.!' f . ;. 'Participants: Commission staff members: Ellie Hartz , Stephanie Kaplan, EmilyWalker, ' " " : -jream 1: Topy.powling, Nipple Grandrimo, Yoel Tobin

F J 3 C : Carol Ashley, Kristen Breitweiser, Patty Casazza, Beverly Eckert, MonicaGabrielle, Mindy Kleinberg, Carie Lemack, Robin Wiener, Lorie Van AukenFamilies of September llth: Stephen PushFamily Steering Committee Perspective1) Although there is value in a brief overview of the Al Qaeda ^and terrorisjr>_from an historical perspective, the Commission's public hearings should be moresubstantive and investigative in nature.2) To heighten public support and respect for its investigation, the Commission



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should publicly explore our government's links to Al"oaeda: " ~~* include public testimony of field agents with first hand knowledge of AlQaeda, who can speak to our government'sinvolvement^policies~and~TaiTures* suggested witnesses

" * anonymous author of "Through Our Enemy's Eyes"* Jean Charles B r i s s a r d ~ ~ ~ ~ ~^_O' Neil colleagueCT* Ray McGovern, CIA analyst for 27 years3) The Commission should publicly ask specific questions about the Al Qaeda^groupasTfrelates to September llth4) The families and the public are seeking accountability and assurances thatthe factors contributing to the terrorist attacks have been corrected so thatwe are safer now.

June 28, 2003Dear Commissioners:Months ago, we were told that each topic in the Commission's mandate will haveone public hearing and Al Qaeda is scheduled for July 9th. After learningdetailsof the agenda for that hearing, we have concerns that, in its current format,salient questions will not be asked publicly.To combat the lack of favorable press thus far, the Commission can use theupcoming public hearing to polish its image. Rather than expending its limited'time and resources on a strictly informational forum about Al Qaeda and state-sponsored terrorism, the Commission should schedule public testimony from fieldagents and others with first hand knowledge of Al Qaeda, who can speak to ourgovernment's involvement and policies. Asking crucial questions of thosewitnesses about interrelationships between the oil industry, our government,Saudi Arabia, the CIA and Al Qaeda will attest to the 9/11 Commission's resolveto fulfill its mandate for a rigorous investigation.We are frustrated that the administration and various government agencies arestalling and are giving only token cooperation while their possible malfeasanceand culpability remain undisclosed and, seemingly, unchallenged. Bureaucratsare still protecting their turf and no one seems to be challenging thatbehavior. Isn't this the same environment that led to September llth? Have anylessons been learned?We consider the work of the Commission to be an investigation into the murderof 3,000 people. The Commission must ferret out all contributing factors,regardless of whether they involve mistakes, incompetence or something moresinister. Then, and only then, will the full accountability we seek beachieved. Only then will the Commission be able to make cogent recommendationsfor protecting our nation from future terrorist attacks.

]Sincerely, ' rThe Family Steering Committee for the 9/11 Independent Commission



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FSC Questions about Al Qaeda and State Sponsored Terrorism

1) What connections did our government have with the terrorists prior to 9/11? )* State department negotiations with Taliban re: pipeline through Afghanistan* interaction with the Taliban and/or bin Laden* CIA training and arming of terrorists J2) What is the state of the Afghan pipeline now?* When was the deal to construct it finalized?* Who was involved?* How is the pipeline being protected?* Who profits from the connections as the pipeline passes through each country?* Who has rights to the pipeline?3) Why isn't Saudi Arabia on the list of countries sponsoring terrorism?4) Why are the FBI and CIA seeking to exclude evidence about Saudi involvementwith terrorists (See Exclusive: CIA and FBI press Congress to excludeintelligence on the Saudi role with 9/11 terrorists by Linda Robinson andEdward T. Pound: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/usinfo/press/saudi.htm )5) In what ways might our government's policies toward Saudi Arabia havecontributed to September llth?6) Why was Saudi Arabia given preferential treatment above all other

nations in immigration? (Visa Express)* What was the reason for creating the Visa Express?* Prior to Sept. 11, Visa Express permitted approximately 97 percent of Saudiapplicants to obtain visas without face-to-face interviewshttp://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,73485,00.html7) Why were bin Laden's Saudi relatives whisked out of America so quickly whenother planes were grounded after the attacks?* Who gave permission for them to leave?8) On September 9th the president had a war plan on his desk to go intoAfghanistan.* What was the origin of this plan?* Why was this plan drawn up even before the September llth1 aittacks?9) Intelligence was told in March of 2001 to back off investigating terrorists.('?J* Who gave the order?* Why?10) Why did Donald Rumsfeld, immediately after the September llth attack, say Jthat Saddam Hussein was involved?11) Does the FBI have proof that it was in fact Al Qaeda that perpetrated 9/11? /* Do they know if the names the hijackers used were their real names? '12) Did Atif Ahmad have a connection to Atta as well as to Moussaoui? J* Is Atif Ahmed a British double agent? '13) What is the truth about the arrest of El Atriss who sold fake IDs to two9/11 terrorists? There are discrepancies between the NY Times and Washington

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Post accounts of his arrest and release.Atriss is an Egyptian national who committed a crime. Why hasn't he been

deported?14) Who were the terrorist informants working with the FBI?

a.) What did the FBI learn from them? : . . , . . .b.) What were the 9/11 warnings provided by these informants?c.) What was done with these warnings to protect the American public?G "5) How did, and do, US energy policies play into Islamic terrorism?the Caspian Sea pipeline?Dick Cheney's energy task force?

s - 16) How do corporate and big business interests play into foreign policydecisions?* Enron pre 9/11; Halliburton, Bechtel pre and post 9/11?* What are the names of the companies which are getting contracts in foreigncountries and how do they influence our foreign policy? ,17) What role did American think tanks, which make policy recommendations to theadministration, play in American foreign policy decisions and the proliferationof Al Qaeda?18) Regarding sharing of intelligence pre and post 9/11:* Did U.S. intelligence agencies share information about Al Qaeda with foreigngovernments?* Did foreign governments share information with our government about Al Qaeda?* If so, what information was shared about threats within the U.S. and fromwhich countries did it come?* Who received this information and what did they do with i t ? , -* What changes have been made in sharing intelligence? ;

f 1 9 ) Why did President Bush specifically request a briefing on Al Qaeda in( August 2001?20) What is the connection between the Bush family and bin Laden?1) Regarding the Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF), which is a collaborationletween the FBI and NYPD, also at times NYS Police, NY/NJ Port Authority PD and.he US Secret Service:was the JTTF aware of 20 warnings of an impending terrorist which were

mentioned in Joint Intelligence Inquiry testimony?* What did the JTTF know prior to 9/11 regarding potential terrorist attacks inNYC and specifically, the WTC?* Was the JTTF informed of any warnings regarding the impending attacks fromagencies of foreign governments?* What was the nature of the warnings?* What, if any, security precautions were taken as a result of the warnings?* What information did the JTTF pass up the chain of command?:22) On the issue of state sponsored terrorism:* Why did Mahmood Ahmed, Director of Pakistan's secret service, the (ISI) orderSaeed Sheikh to wire $100,000 to hijacker Mohamed Atta?* What was Mahmood Ahmed's relationship with Al Qaeda? ''* Where did the money come from?* Did officials in Pakistan know in advance about the terrorist attack?* On September llth, Mahmood Ahmed had a breakfast meeting in Washington, D.C.,with House and Senate Intelligence Committee chairmen. Rep. Porter Goss andSenator Bob Graham. What were they discussing?

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23) To combat terrorism* What sanctions can the U.S. place on individuals of non-terrorist stateswho aided and abetted terrorists through funding or other means?* If there is no recourse, will the CIA continue to monitor their activitiesin the future?* Will the State Department and other allied countries seek to ban their entryinto the U.S. and their nations?* How long does an individual remain a terrorist threat according to ourpolicies?* Will those individuals be banned from doing business with the U.S.?* Since September llth, has our government developed specific policies

\regarding individual sponsors of terrorism?/ 24) Were individuals with ties to terrorists or states which sponsor terrorism

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Subject: Re: teleconference summary; letter and questions sent to CommissionThank you fo r your note and your thoughts.Quoting ashley[ 9/11 Personal Privacy | -.> June 2 8 , 2 0 0 3 . .;{/> Dear Team 1 Member,> Below, please find three items:> * a summary of points raised during the conference call on June 26, with> additional clarifying comments> * a copy of a letter the FSC sent to the Commissioners> * a list of questions about Al Qaeda and state-sponsored terrorism> On a personal note, I'd like to thank you for the work you are doing. With> the deadline looming, you must be working hard to prepare for the public> hearing. Although the conference call focused on that hearing, I want to> stress that we were not upset with you or your team's work. Rather, we were> upset about the thrust of the hearings, which should be more investigative in> nature, preferably with sworn testimony. Please forgive the raw emotions.> For us, there are still so many unanswered questions.> Carol Ashley> mother of Janice, 25> 93rd floor, Tower One

> Notes from Conference Call with Team 1 ( ' . - > June 26, 2003 ' ' * "> Participants: Commission staff members: Ellie Hartz , Stephanie Kaplan, Emily> Walker,> Team 1: Tom Dowling, Nicole Grandrimo, Yoel Tobin> FSC:Carol Ashley, Kristen Breitweiser, Patty Casazza, Beverly Eckert,> Monica Gabrielle, Mindy Kleinberg, Carie Lemack, Robin Wiener, Lorie Van> Auken> Families of September llth: Stephen Push> Family Steering Committee Perspective> 1) Although there is value in a brief overview of the Al Qaeda and terrorism> from an historical perspective, the Commission's public hearings should be> more substantive and investigative in nature.> 2) To heighten public support and respect for its investigation, the> Commission should publicly explore our government's links to Al Qaeda:> * include public testimony of field agents with first hand knowledge of Al> Qaeda, who can speak to our government's involvement, policies and failures> * suggested witnesses> * anonymous author of "Through Our Enemy's Eyes"



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> * Jean Charles Brissard> * 0' Neil colleague (s)> * Ray McGovern, CIA analyst for 27 years>> 3) The Commission should publicly ask specific questions about the Al Qaeda> group> as it relates to September llth>> 4) The families and the public are seeking accountability and assurances that> the factors contributing to the terrorist attacks have been corrected so that> we are safer now.

> June 28, 2003>> Dear Commissioners:>> Months ago, we were told that each topic in the Commission's mandate will> have> one public hearing and Al Qaeda is scheduled for July 9th. After learning> details> of the agenda for that hearing, we have concerns that, in its current format,> salient questions will not be asked publicly.>> To combat the lack of favorable press thus far, the Commission can use the> upcoming public hearing to polish its image. Rather than expending its> limited time and resources on a strictly informational forum about Al Qaeda> and state-sponsored terrorism, the Commission should schedule public> testimony from field agents and others with first hand knowledge of Al Qaeda,> who can speak to our government's involvement and policies. Asking crucial> questions of those witnesses about interrelationships between the oil> industry, our government, Saudi Arabia, the CIA and Al Qaeda will attest to> the 9/11 Commission's resolve to fulfill its mandate for a rigorous> investigation.>> We are frustrated that the administration and various government agencies are> stalling and are giving only token cooperation while their possible> malfeasance and culpability remain undisclosed and, seemingly, unchallenged.> Bureaucrats are still protecting their turf and no one seems to be> challenging that behavior. Isn't this the same environment that led to> September llth? Have any lessons been learned?>> We consider the work of the Commission to be an investigation into the murder> of 3,000 people. The Commission must ferret out all contributing factors,> regardless of whether they involve mistakes, incompetence or something more> sinister. Then, and only then, will the full accountability' we seek be> achieved. Only then will the Commission be able to make cogent> recommendations for protecting our nation from future terrorist attacks.>>> Sincerely,>> The Family Steering Committee for the 9/11 Independent Commission

> FSC Questions about Al Qaeda and State Sponsored Terrorism

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> 1) What connections did our government have with the terrorists prior to> 9/11?> * State department negotiations with Taliban re: pipeline through> Afghanistan> * interaction with the Taliban and/or bin Laden> * CIA training and arming of terrorists>> 2) What is the state of the Afghan pipeline now?> * When was the deal to construct it finalized? ' > * Who was involved?> * How is the pipeline being protected?> * Who profits from the connections as the pipeline passes through each> country?> * Who has rights to the pipeline?>> 3) Why isn't Saudi Arabia on the list of countries sponsoring terrorism?>> 4) Why are the FBI and CIA seeking to exclude evidence about Saudi> involvement with terrorists (See Exclusive: CIA and FBI press Congress to> exclude intelligence on the Saudi role with 9/11 terrorists by Linda Robinson> and Edward T. Pound: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/usinfo/press/saudi.htm )>> 5) In what ways might our government's policies toward Saudi Arabia have> contributed to September llth?>> 6) Why was Saudi Arabia given preferential treatment above all other> nations in immigration? (Visa Express)> * What was the reason for creating the Visa Express?> * Prior to Sept. 11, Visa Express permitted approximately 97 percent of Saudi> applicants to obtain visas without face-to-face interviews> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,73485,00.html>> 7) Why were bin Laden's Saudi relatives whisked out of America so quickly> when> other planes were grounded after the attacks?> * Who gave permission for them to leave?>> 8) On September 9th the president had a war plan on his desk to go into> Afghanistan.> * What was the origin of this plan?> * Why was this plan drawn up even before the September llth attacks?>> 9) Intelligence was told in March of 2001 to back off investigating> terrorists.> * Who gave the order?> * Why?>> 10) Why did Donald Rumsfeld, immediately after the September llth attack,> say that Saddam Hussein was involved?>> 11) Does the FBI have proof that it was in fact Al Qaeda that perpetrated> 9/11?> * Do they know if the names the hijackers used were their real names?>> 12) Did Atif Ahmad have a connection to Atta as well as to Moussaoui?> * Is Atif Ahmed a British double agent?



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> 13) What is the truth about the arrest of El Atriss who sold fake IDs to two> 9/11 terrorists? There are discrepancies between the NY Times and Washington> Post accounts of his arrest and release.> * Atriss is an Egyptian national who committed a crime. Why hasn't he been> deported?>> 14) Who were the terrorist informants working with the FBI?> a.) What did the FBI learn from them?> b.) What were the 9/11 warnings provided by these informants?> c.) What was done with these warnings to protect the American public?>> 15) How did, and do, US energy policies play into Islamic terrorism?> * the Caspian Sea pipeline?> * Dick Cheney's energy task force?>> 16) How do corporate and big business interests play into foreign policy> decisions?> * Enron pre 9/11; Halliburton, Bechtel pre and post 9/11?> * What are the names of the companies which are getting contracts in foreign> countries and how do they influence our foreign policy?>> 17) What role did American think tanks, which make policy recommendations to> the> administration, play in American foreign policy decisions and the> proliferation of Al Qaeda?>> 18) Regarding sharing of intelligence pre and post 9/11:> * Did U.S. intelligence agencies share information about Al Qaeda with> foreign governments?> * Did foreign governments share information with our government about Al> Qaeda?> * If so, what information was shared about threats within the U.S. and from> which countries did it come?> * Who received this information and what did they do with it?> * What changes have been made in sharing intelligence?>> 19) Why did President Bush specifically request a briefing on Al Qaeda in> August 2001?>> 20) What is the connection between the Bush family and bin Laden?>> 21) Regarding the Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF), which is a> collaboration between the FBI and NYPD, also at times NYS Police, NY/NJ Port> Authority PD and the US Secret Service:> * was the JTTF aware of 20 warnings of an impending terrorist which were> mentioned in Joint Intelligence Inquiry testimony? '> * What did the JTTF know prior to 9/11 regarding potential terrorist attacks> in NYC and specifically, the WTC?> * Was the JTTF informed of any warnings regarding the impending attacks from> agencies of foreign governments?> * What was the nature of the warnings?> * What, if any, security precautions were taken as a result of the warnings?> * What information did the JTTF pass up the chain of command?>> 22) On the issue of state sponsored terrorism:> * Why did Mahmood Ahmed, Director of Pakistan's secret service, the (ISI)> order Saeed Sheikh to wire $100,000 to hijacker Mohamed Atta?> * What was Mahmood Ahmed's relationship with Al Qaeda?> * Where did the money come from?



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> * Did officials in Pakistan know in advance about the terrorist attack?> * On September llth, Mahmood Ahmed had a breakfast meeting in Washington,> D.C., with House and Senate Intelligence Committee chairmen, Rep. Porter Goss> and Senator Bob Graham. What were they discussing?>> 23) To combat terrorism> * What sanctions can the U.S. place on individuals of non-terrorist states> who aided and abetted terrorists through funding or other means?> * If there is no recourse, will the CIA continue to monitor their activities> in the future?> * Will the State Department and other allied countries seek to ban their> entry into the U.S. and their nations?> * How long does an individual remain a terrorist threat according to our> policies?> * Will those individuals be banned from doing business with the U.S.?> * Since September llth, has our government developed specific policies> regarding individual sponsors of terrorism?>> 24) Were individuals with ties to terrorists or states which sponsor> terrorism involved in shorting airline and other stocks which were impacted> by the terrorist attacks on September llth?



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Notes from Conference Call with Team 1June 26, 2003

Participants: Commission staff members: Ellie Hartz , Stephanie Kaplan, Emily Walker,Team 1: Tom D owling, Nicole G randrimo, Yoel TobinFSC: Carol Ashley, Kristen Breitweiser, Patty Casazza, Beverly Eckert, Monica Gabrielle, Mindy Kleinberg, Carie Lemack,Robin Wiener, Lorie Van AukenFamilies of September 11th: Stephen Push

Family Steering Committee Perspective

1) Although there is value in a brief overview of the Al Qaeda and terrorism from an historical perspective, theCommission's public hearings should be more substantive and investigative in nature.

2) To heighten public support and respect for its investigation, the Commission should publicly explore ourgovernment's links to Al Qaeda:

include public testimony of field agents with first hand knowledge of Al Qaeda, w ho can speak to ourgovernment's involvement, policies and failures suggested witnesses

anonymous author of "Through Our Enemy's Eyes" Jean Charles Brissard O' Neil colleague(s) Ray McGovern, CIA analyst for 27 years

3) The Commission should publicly ask specific questions about the Al Qaeda groupas it relates to September 11h

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attacks have been corrected so that we are safer now.

June 28, 2003

Dear Commissioners:

Months ago, we were told that each topic in the Commission's mandate w ill haveone public hearing and Al Qaeda is scheduled for July 9th. After learning detailsof the agenda for that hearing, we have concerns that, in its current format, salient questions will not beasked publicly.

To combat the lack of favorable press thus far, the Commission can use the upcoming public hearingto polish its image. Rather than expend ing its limited time and resources o n a strictly inform ationalforum about Al Qaeda and state-sponsored terrorism, the Com mission should schedule publictestimony from field agents and others with first hand knowledge of Al Qaeda, who can speak to ourgovernment's involvement and policies. Asking crucial questions of those witnesses aboutinterrelationships between the oil industry, our government, Saudi Arabia, the CIA and Al Qaeda willattest to the 9/11Commission's resolve to fulfill its mandate for a rigorous investigation.W e are frustrated that the administration and various governm ent agencies are stalling and are givingonly token cooperation wh ile their possible malfeasance and culpability remain und isclosed and,seemingly, unchallenged. Bureaucrats are still protecting their turf and no one seems to be challengingthat behavior. Isn't this the same environment that led to September 11 ? Have any lessons beenlearned?W e consider the wo rk of the C ommission to be an investigation into the murder of 3,000 people. TheCommission m ust ferret out all contributing factors, regardless of whe ther they involve mistakes,incompetence or something m ore sinister. Th en, and only then , will the full accountability we seek beachieved. Only then will the Commission be able to make cogent recommendations for protecting ournation from future terrorist attacks.

Sincerely,

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The Family Steering Com mittee for the 9/11 Independent Commission

FSC Questions about Al Oaeda and State Sponsored Terrorism

1) What connections did our government have with the terrorists prior to 9/11 ? State department negotiations with Taliban re: pipeline through Afghanistan interaction with the Taliban and/or bin Laden CIA training and arming of terrorists

2) What is the state of the Afghan pipeline now ? When was the deal to construct itfinalized? .^ Who was involved? How s the pipeline being protected? Who profits from the connections as the pipeline passes through each country? Who has rights to the pipeline?

3) Why isn't Saudi Arabia on the list of countries sponsoring terrorism?

4) W hy are the FBI and CIA seeking to exclude evidence ab out Saudi involvem ent with terrorists (SeeExclusive: C IA and FBI press Congress to exclude intelligence on the Saudi role with 9/11 terroristsby Linda Robinson and Edward T. Pound: h t t p : / / w w w . u s n e w s . c o m / u s n e w s / u s i n f o / p r e s s / s a u d i . h t m )5) In what ways might our government's policies toward S a u d i A r a b i a havec o n t r i b u t e d t o September 1 1 t h ?6) Why was Saudi Arabia given preferential treatment above all othernations in immigration? (Visa Express)

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What was the reason for creating the Visa Express? Prior to Sept. 11, Visa Express permitted approximately 97 percent of Saudi applicants toobtain visas without face-to -face interviewshttp://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,73485,00.html

7) Why were bin Laden's Saudi relatives whisked out of America soquickly whenother planes were grounded after the attacks? Whogave permission for them to leave?

8) On September 9th the president had a war plan on his desk to go intoA f g h a n i s t a n . What was theorigin of this plan? Why was this plan drawn upeven before theSeptember 11 th attacks?

9) Intelligence was told in M arch of 2001 to back off investigating terrorists. W ho gave the order?. W h y ?

10 ) W hy did Donald Rumsfeld, immediately after the September 11th attack, say that Saddam Husseinwas involved?

11) Does the FBI have proof that it was in fact Al Qaeda that perpetrated 9/11 ? Do they know if the names the hijackers used were their real names?

12 ) Did Atif Ahm ad have a connection to Atta as well as to Moussaoui? IsAtif Ahmed a British double agent?

13) W hat is the truth about the arrest of El Atriss who sold fake IDs to two 9/11 terrorists? There arediscrepancies between the NY Times and W ashington Post accounts of his arrest and release. Atriss is an Egyptian national who committed a crime. Whyhasn't hebeen deported?



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14 ) Who were the terrorist informants working with the FBI?a.) What did the FBI learn from them?b.) What were the 9/11 warnings provided by these informants?c.) What was done with these warnings to protect the American public?

15 ) How did, and do, US energy policies play into Islamic terrorism? theCaspian Sea pipeline? Dick Cheney's energy task force?

16) How do corporate and big business interests play into foreign policydecisions?

Enron pre 9/11; Halliburton, Bechtel pre and post 9/11 ? What are the names of the companies which are getting contracts in foreign countries and how do theyinfluence our foreign policy?

17) What role did American think tanks, which make policy recommendations to theadministration, play in American foreign policy decisions and the proliferation of Al Qaeda?

18) Regarding sharing of intelligence pre and post 9/11: Did U.S. intelligence agencies share information about Al Qaeda with foreign governments? Did foreign governments share information with ourgovernment about AlQaeda?

If so, what information was shared about threats within the U.S. and from which countries did itcome? Who received this information and what did they do with it?

What changes have been made insharing intelligence?

19 ) Why did President Bush specifically request a briefing on Al Qaeda in August 2001?



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20 ) What is the connection between the Bush family and bin Laden?

21) Regarding the Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF), which is a collaboration between the FBI andNYPD, also at times NYS Police, NY/NJ Port AuthorityPD and the US Secret Service: was the JTTF aware of 20 warnings of an impending terrorist which were mentioned in Joint IntelligenceInquiry testimony? What did the JTTF know prior to 9/11 regarding potential terrorist attacks in NYC andspecifically, theWTC? Was the JTTF informed of any warnings regarding the impending attacks from agencies of foreigngovernments? What was the nature of the warnings? What, if any, security precautions were taken as a result of the warnings? What information did the JTTF pass up the chain of command?

22) On the issue of state sponsored terrorism: Why did Mahmood Ahmed, Director of Pakistan's secret service, the (ISI) order Saeed Sheikh towire$100,000 to hijacker Mohamed Atta? What was Mahmood Ahmed's relationship with Al Qaeda? Where did the money come from? Did officials in Pakistan know in advance about the terrorist attack? On September 11th, Mahmood Ahmed had a breakfast meeting inWashington, D.C., with House andSenateIntelligence Committee chairmen, Rep. Porter Goss and Senator Bob Graham. What were they discussing?

23) To combat terrorism What sanctions can the U.S. place on individuals of non-terrorist states who aided and abetted terroriststhrough funding or other means? If there is no recourse, will the CIA continue to monitor their activities in the future? Will the State Department andother allied countries seek to ban their entry into the U.S. andtheir nations? How ong does an individual remain a terrorist threat according to our policies? Will those individuals be banned from doing business with the U.S.? Since September 11th, has our government developed specific policies regarding individual sponsorsofterrorism?

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Subject: Change of witnessesStephanie, Al -- Murphy is off panel 3, and will be replaced by Dennis Ross(Washington Institute) and Rachel Bronson (Council on Foreign Relations).Melissa is collecting the particulars on their bios, and both have been askedto submit statements by OOB Monday.Stephanie -- I leave it to you to change the draft agendaAl -- I leave it to you to advise as to whether & when we send out a revisedwitness list.

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Media Advisory Al Felzenberg 202 331-4062 Page 1 of 4

nri 0x08 graphic9-11 Commission to Release Progress Report on July 8

July 2, 2003 -- Thomas H. Kean and Lee H. Hamilton, Chair and Vice Chair of the 9-11 Commission,will release a progress report to the American people at a July 8 press briefing at 2:30 PM at theWoodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington, DC.Kean and Hamilton will report on the progress of the 9-11 Commission during the past six months andindicate how the Commission intends to proceed in the coming months. The briefing will be held inJoseph H. and Claire Flom Auditorium on the sixth floor of the Woodrow Wilson Center, located in theRonald Reagan Building at 1300 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW .The July 8 public briefing will precede the Commission's July 9 public hearing on "Terrorism, AlQaeda, and the Muslim World." This one-day hearing will convene at 9:00 AM in Room 253 of theRussell Senate Office Building in Washington, DC. Chairman Kean and Vice Chair Hamilton will beavailable to press at the conclusion of the public hearing.Members of the media are required to register in advance for both events. To register for the July 8 pressbriefing, contact Al Felzenberg, Deputy for Communications, at [email protected]. Toregister for the hearing, members of the media should visit the Commission's Web site at www.9-llcommission.gov.An agenda for the July 9 hearing as well as directions to the Wilson Center follow this advisory.

National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United Statesl ; i ''Third Public Hearing July 9,2003 Russell SOB, Room 253

"Terrorism, Al Qaeda, and the Muslim World"9 AM Hearing Commences

Opening Statement by Chairman KeanPANEL ONE: Al QaedaRohan Gunaratna, Head of Terrorism Research and Associate Professor, Institute for DefenceandStudies, Singapore and author of Inside Al Qaeda: Global Network of TerrorMamoun Fandy, Senior Fellow, United States Institute of Peace and author of Saudi ArabiaPolitics of DissentMarc Sageman, Lecturer, Solomon Asch Center for the Study of Ethnopolitical Conflict, Urof Pennsylvania

1 )0 AM PANEL TWO: States and Terrorism ft^Laurie Mylroie, author of Study of Revenge: Saddam Hussein's Unfinished War Against AmericaJudith Yaphe, Senior Research Fellow and Middle East Project Director, Institute for Natio

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MEDIA ADVISORY9 - 1 1 Commission to Hold Third Public Hearing on Al Qaeda

July 1,2003 - TheNational Commission onTerrorist Attacks Upon the United Stateswill hold its third public hearing on July 9, 2003 beginning at 9:00 a.m. in the RussellSenate Office Building (Room 253) in Washington, DC.Th e one-day session will focus on "Terrorism, al Qaeda, and the Muslim World." TheCommission will hear testimony from experts on the character of the transnationalterrorist threat, the relationships of Arab states to these groups, and the phenomenon ofviolent extremism within the Muslim community. An agenda and list of panelistsaccompanies this advisory.In announcing the hearing, the Commission's Chair, former New Jersey GovernorThomas H. Kean, said: "A key Commission responsibility is to understand the enemy.Good policy recommendations will depend on a clear understanding of al Qaeda'semergence and strategy."The Vice Chair, former Indiana Representative Lee H. Hamilton, added: "There isconsiderable knowledge of al Qaeda and terrorist groups outside the government. Thissession will enable us to achieve a better understanding how the Arafrworld has viewedthis danger, before and after September 11."The hearing will be open to the public and members of the media. Seating will beprovided on a first-come, first-served basis. Members of the media must register inadvance by visiting the Commission's Web site (www.9-1 lcornmission.gov').Additional information, including prepared testimony of witnesses, will be posted on theCommission's Web site as it becomes available. Archived video and complete transcriptsof hearing proceedings will be posted on the Commission's Web site one week after thehearing's conclusion.Chairman Kean and Vice Chair Hamilton will be available to the press at the conclusionof the hearing.

AL FELZENBERG, D E P U T Y FOR C O M M U N I C A T I O N SNational Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United StatesOffice: 202-401-1725 . Cell: 202-236-4878 Fax: 202-296-5545

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National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United StatesThird Public Hearing July 9,2003 Russell SOB, Room 253

"Terrorism, Al Qaeda, and the Muslim World"9:00 AM Hearing Commences

Opening Statement by Chairman KeanPANEL ONE: Al QaedaRohan Gunaratna, Head of Terrorism Research and Associate Professor, Institute for Defenceand Strategic Studies, Singapore and author of Inside Al Qaeda: Global Network of TerrorMamoun Fandy, Senior Fellow, United States Institute of Peace and author of Saudi Arabiaand the Politics of DissentMarc Sageman, member, American Psychological Association presidential panel onterrorism

11:00 AM PANEL TWO: States and TerrorismLaurie Mylroie, author of Study of Revenge: Saddam Hussein's Unfinished W ar AgainstAmericaJudith Yaphe, Senior Research Fellow and Middle East Project Director, Institute forNational Strategic Studies, National Defense UniversityMurhaf Jouejati, Adjunct Scholar, Middle East Institute and Lecturer, George WashingtonUniversityMark Gasiorowski, Professor of Political Science, Louisiana State University

1:00 PM Break2:00 PM PANEL THREE: The Challenge within the Muslim World

Richard Murphy, Hasib J. Sabbagh Senior Fellow for the Middle East at the Council onForeign RelationsGilles Kepel, Professor, Institute of Political Studies, Paris and author of Jihad: The Trail ofPolitical IslamSteven Emerson, Executive Director of the Investigative Project and author of AmericanJihad: The Terrorists Living Among U s


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Cc: '" '4 P , " " 4F,""9Subject: July 9th Hearing Agenda / *Part(s): Q2hearing agenda.doc application/octet-stream 275.12 KBHDear Commissioners:Attached please find a draft agenda for the July 9th hearing.For lead questioners, we propose the following:Commissioners Roemer, Gorton and Gorelick for the al-Qaeda panel;Commissioners Lehman, Ben-Veniste, and Thompson for State Sponsors panel;Commissioners Hamilton, Fielding, Cleland for the Muslim World panel.(The Chair is not specifically designated)We will send briefing books to you Monday night, arriving Tuesday. Members of ITeam 1 will be in touch with you on Tuesday July 1st to set up times to meet /with you/answer questions/provide additional materials prior to July 9th /hearing. __ /Delete I Reply I Reply to All I Forward I Redirect I Blacklist I Message Source I Resume I Save as I Print Back to INBOX ^

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^NT ERNAL DRAFT ^UNTI NOT FOR DISTRIBUTIONNational Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

Public Hearing July 9,2003 Location (tentative) 253 Russell SOBDraft Agenda for "Terrorism, Al Qaeda, and the Muslim World"9:00 AM Hearing Commences

Opening Statement by Chairman Kean "PANEL ONE: Al Qaeda

/Rohan Gunaratna, Head of Terrorism Research and Associate Professor, Institute for Defenceand Strategic Studies, Singapore and author of Inside A l Qaeda: Global Network of TerrorMamoun Fandy, Senior Fellow, United States Institute of Peace and author of Saudi Arabiaand the Politics of Dissent

Sageman, member, American Psychological Association presidential panel on terrorism

11:00 PM PANEL TWO: States and TerrorismLaurie Mylroie, author of Study of Revenge: Saddam Hussein's Unfinished W ar AgainstAmericaJudith Yaphe, Senior Research Fellow andMiddle East Project Director, Institute for NationalStrategic Studies, National Defense UniversityMurhaf Jouejati, Scholar-in-Residence at the Middle East Institute and a lecturer atGeorgetown UniversityMark Gasiorowski, Professor of Political Science, Louisiana State University


Richard Murphy, Hasib J. Sabbagh Senior Fellow for the Middle East at the CouncilonForeign RelationsGilles Kepel, Professor, Institute of Political Studies, Paris and author of Jihad: The Trailof Political IslamSteven Emerson, Executive Director of the Investigative Project and author of AmericanJihad: The Terrorists Living Among U sJohn Esposito, Professor of Religion and International Affairs and of Islamic Studies, andFounding Director, Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding, Georgetown University


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National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United StatesPublic Hearing July 9,2003 Location TBD

Draft Agenda for "Terrorism, Al Qaeda, and the Muslim World"9:00 AM Hearing Commences

Opening Statement by Chairman KeanPANEL ONE: The Roots of TurmoilRichard Murphy, Hasib J. Sabbagh Senior Fellow for the Middle East at the Council onForeign RelationsGilles Kepel, Professor, Institute of Political Studies, Paris and author of Jihad: The Trailof Political IslamSteven Emerson, Executive Director of the Investigative Project and author of AmericanJihad: T he Terrorists Living Among U sJohn Esposito, Professor of Religion and International Affairs and of Islamic Studies, andFounding Director, Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding, Georgetown University

11:00 AM PANEL TWO: Al QaedaRohan Gunaratna, Head of Terrorism Research and Associate Professor, Institute forDefenceand Strategic Studies, Singapore and author o f Inside Al Qaeda: Global Network of TerrorMamoun Fandy, Senior Fellow, United States Institute of Peace and author of Saudi Arabiaand the Politics o f DissentMarc Sageman, member, American Psychological Association presidential panel on terrorism

1:00 PM Break2:00 PM PANEL THREE: States and Terrorism

Laurie Mylroie, author of Study o f Revenge: Saddam Hussein's Unfinished W ar AgainstAmericaJudith Yaphe, Senior Research Fellow and Middle East Project Director, Institute forNationalStrategic Studies, National Defense UniversityMurhaf Jouejati, Scholar-in-Residence at the Middle East Institute and a lecturer atGeorgetown UniversityMark Gasiorowski, Professor of Political Science, Louisiana State University


All times and panels are subject to change. Visit www.9-llcommission.gov for the mo st current information.


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To: " " Dear Commissioners:Attached please find a draft agenda for the July 9th hearing.For lead questioners, we propose the following:Commissioners Roemer, Gorton and Gorelick for the al-Qaeda panel;Commissioners Lehman, Ben-Veniste, and Thompson for State Sponsors panel;Commissioners Hamilton, Fielding, Cleland for the Muslim World panel.(The Chair is not specifically designated)We will send briefing books to you Monday night, arriving Tuesday. Members ofTeam 1 will be in touch with you on Tuesday July 1st to set up times to meetwith you/answer questions/provide additional materials prior to July 9thhearing.End forwarded message

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National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United StatesPublic H earing July 9, 2003 Location (tentative) 253 Russell SO BDraft Agenda for "Terrorism, Al Qaeda, and the Muslim World"9:00 AM Hearing Commences

Opening Statement by Chairman KeanPANEL ONE: Al QaedaRohan G unaratna, Head of Terrorism Research and Associate Professor, Institute fo r Defenceand Strategic Studies, Singapore and author of Inside Al Qaeda: Global Network of TerrorMamoun Fandy, Senior Fellow, United States Institute of Peace and author of Saudi Arabiaand the Politics of DissentMarc Sageman, member, American Psychological Association presidential panel on terrorism

11:00 PM PANEL TWO: States and TerrorismLaurie Mylroie, author o f Study of Revenge: Saddam Hussein's Unfinished W ar AgainstAmericaJudith Yaphe, S enior Research Fellow and Mid dle East Project Director, Ins titute for NationalStrategic Studies, National Defense UniversityMurhaf Jouejati, Scholar-in-Residence at the M iddle East Institute and a lecturer atGeorgetown UniversityMark Gasiorowski, Profess or of Political S cience, Louis iana S tate Univ ersity


Richard Murphy , Hasib J. Sabbagh S enior Fellow for the Middle East at the Council onForeign R elationsGilles Kepel, Professor, Institute of Political Studies, Paris and author of Jihad: The Trailof Po litical IslamSteven Emerson, Executive Director of the Investigative Project and author of AmericanJihad: Th e Terrorists Living Amo ng UsJohn Esposito, Professor of Religion and International Affairs and of Islamic Studies, andFounding Director, Center for Muslim-Christian U nderstanding, Georgetow n Univ ersity


Al l times an d panels are subject to change. Visit www.9-llcommission.gov for the most current information.


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Suggested Questions for

Primary Questions for Panel 1Questions for Panelists

Your book sets forth Al Qaida's global reach and worldwide threat. WhereDo you think Al Qaida stands today? Are we winning or losing the battle? Does it still pose anextraordinary threat to the US and its allies?September 11 was, from a Bin Laden/Al Qaida, perspective an enormous success. Do you havea sense of how that may have affected recruitment? Is there an upw ard trend? What, if anything,is the impact of the relative lack of success since then?Although Bin Laden's personality shaped Al Qaida, did social and political forces make th eemergence of something like Al Qaida inevitable? Or was Bin Laden the indispensable catalystfor bringing these forces together?Al Qaida draws its members from a variety of very differen t cultures. Has this m ix producedidentifiable tensions within th e organization? If not, how has it managed to avoid such problems?2) Yo ur work emphasizes A l Qaida's links with other terrorist groups. W hat areth e major Al Qaida affiliates active today ? How much of a threatdo they pose to the US? Are we paying sufficient attention?What motivates someone to join a group like A l Qaida? Wh at motivates someoneto fly an airplane into an office building in order to kill thousands ofinnocent people as well as himself?Given th e range of national origins and organizations within Al Qaida, are there signs of factionsor rivalries among its leaders? Over wh at do they differ? Personalities? Policies?Al Qaida draws significant support comes from Sou th East Asia. These are very differentsocieties from that of Saudi Arabia. Why has Al Qaida found such a willin g base in thosecountries?Is there a regional dimension to Al Qaida recruitm ent? Are there areas wh ere _ argum ents hav eth e mo st appeal? Do these areas change over time? He appears to have relatively success in theL_. Is that in fact true and, if so, why?Radical groups often form tactical alliances w ith criminal organizations. Is there an y sign AlQaida is seeking to do this? If so, wh ere and w hy ? Is there any sign that criminal or secularradical groups are themselves seeking an alliance w ith Al Qaida?


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Despite the widespread perception that Al Qaida is essentially Bin Laden's creation, wou ld hisremoval actually shatter Al Qaida? Or has it now become sufficiently organized to survive hispassing? What would a post-Bin Laden Al Qaida look like?Although Al Qaida often appears to be Bin Laden's creation, Egyptian radical m ovem ents appearto have been critical to its emergence. Is that an accurate assessment?Primary Questions for Panel IIWhat should the US be doing that it is not already doing to discourage statesupport for terrorism, and to encourage active participation by other states inthe war against Al Qaida and other international terrorist groups?

Questions for Panelists

3) In the past, you have stated that Iran "remains the main sponsor of bothShia andSunni terrorism - including AlQaida andseveral of its associategroups."You also describe a "tactical relationship" between Al Qaida andHezbollah. Could you please elaborate on the relationship between Al Qaida,and Iran and/or Hezbollah? And are these alleged relationships p urelyhistorical, or do they con tinue?Al Qaida's extremist Sunni views are openly hostile towards the Shia, whose protection Iranregards as a f undam ental national interest. How significant are these fundam ental religiousdifferences in determ ining Iranian policy towa rds Al Qaida? Are there any circumstances thatwould lead Iran to cooperate with Al Q aida? Would increasing US pressure on Iran produce sucha reassessment?There have been periodic reports of Al Qaida personnel in Iran. How would you assess thesereports? Do these reports indicate to you that Iranian policy is sh ifting? A split w ithin Iran 'sleadership? Are there other plausible explanations?Wo uld anything bring Damascus to seek cooperation with Al Qaida?Non-Iraqis appear to be an important element in the mo unting resistance our forces face there.What is your sense of Al Qaida's involvement, if any, in the inflow of foreign fighters. Beyondthe opportunity to hit Americans, are there broader goals that would motivate Al Qaidainvolvement in Iraq.Primary Questions for Panel IIIFor all of panel 3: What can the US do to promote moderate, tolerant, and pro-


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Western forces in the Islamic w orld?Questions for PanelistsWhat should the US be doing that we are not already doing to hasten the demiseof Al Qaida and its affiliated organizations?For K epel You have stated tha t the jihadists are losingthe battle for popular support in the Islamic world. W hat is the basis forthis conclusion? What can the US do to accentuate this process?Question either for Fandy, or Panel 2, or Panel 3: Does Wahabi Islam, aspracticed in and promoted by Saudi Arabia, promote hatred of Americans? Does itprovide an ideological or cultural underpinn ing or context for Al Qaida orsimilar groups?Although Bin Laden's has now added the Palestinian cause to his list of grievances, he rarelymentioned it in his pre-9/11 days. How do you explain this change? Do we see any signs that heis moving beyond rhetoric on this issue?How wo uld you describe current public attitudes in the Arab w orld and, more generally, theMuslim world towards Bin Laden? D oes public opinion distinguish between Bin Laden and AlQaida? In what ways? Do you see a trend? Is support growing? Falling? W here? Why ?Although Bin Laden couches his argum ents in religious language, he has no real credentials forissuing such jud gm ents. Have M uslim scholars challenged either his statements or his implicitclaims to religious authority? How would you categorize those challenges- forceful, reluctant?Have they weakened his appeal? C ould they be more effective ly used to counter him? W hat, ifanything, is the impact of critiques of his religious pretensions by no n-M uslim scholars?Many com men tators believe that Saudi suppo rt to foreign religious activities contributed, at leastindirectly, to Al Qaida's rise a product of S policies in support of M education. How would youassess that claim?Some argue Bin Laden is simply advocating an extreme form of views widely held in Saudisociety. In your view, how closely do Bin Laden ideas resemble those of his society? Where,other than in the use of violence, does he differ from that broader consensus?In now appears that the bulk of US forces will be withdrawn from Saudi Arabia. This wouldappear to meet one of Bin Laden's fundamental goals. How will this withdrawal affect hissupport? How will he alter his rhetoric to accommodate this change?Most revolutionary m ovements offer their picture of the glorious future to follow their victory.Bin Laden appears not to do this, focusing instead on the struggle itself. Is that a fair assessment?W hy has he chosen this approach?


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PANEL 1:Fo r Gunaratna:Your book sets forth Al Qaida's global reach and worldwide threat. WhereDo you think Al Qaida stands today? Are we win nin g or losing the battle? Does it still pose anextraordinary threat to the US a nd its allies?2) Your work emphasizes Al Qaida's links with other terrorist grou ps. W ha t arethe major Al Qaida affiliates active today? How much of a threatdo they pose to the US? Are we paying sufficient attention?3) In the past, you have stated that Iran "remains the main sponsor of bothShia andSunni terrorism - including Al Qaida andseveral of its associategroups."

You also describe a "tactical relationship" between Al Qaida an dHezbollah. Could you please elaborate on the relationship between Al Qaida,and Iran and/or Hezbollah? And are these alleged relationships purelyhistorical, or do they continu e?Fo r Sageman:[note: I know nothing about his work, am just assuming this would be anappropriate question because he's a p sychologist]:W hat motivates someone to join a group like Al Qaida? W hat m otivates someoneto fly an airplane into an office building in order to kill thousand s ofinnocent people as well as himself?For all of Panel one:What should the US be doing that we are not already doing to hasten th e demiseof Al Qaida and its affiliated organizations?[throw in question on CBRN?]For all of panel two:Wh at shou ld the US be doin g that it is not already doin g to discourage statesupport fo r terrorism, and to encourage active participation by other states inthe war against Al Qaida and other intern ationa l terrorist groups?[Note: re : Mylroie, I think there were releva nt press clips on June 27 on Iraq-


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AQ connection.]For Kepel [note: I have not read him , this is from my recollection of whatothers have said about his wo rk]: You hav e stated that the jihadists are losingthe battle for popular support in the Islamic world. What is the basis forthis conclusion? W hat can the US do to accentuate this process?For all of panel 3: What can the US do to promote moderate, tolerant, and pro-W estern forces in the Islamic world?Question either for Fandy, or Panel 2, or Panel 3: Does Wahabi Islam, aspracticed in and promoted by Saudi Arabia, promote h atred of Americans? Does itprovide an ideological or cultural underpinning or context for Al Qaida orsimilar groups?

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