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  • SEWARD PENINSULA SUBSISTENCE RAC MEETING 4/24/2019 2

    SEWARD PENINSULA RAC MEETING

    Computer Matrix, LLC 135 Christensen Dr., Ste. 2., Anch. AK 99501

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    SEWARD PENINSULA FEDERAL SUBSISTENCE REGIONAL ADVISORY COUNCIL MEETING

    PUBLIC MEETING

    VOLUME II

    Nome Mini-Convention Center Nome, Alaska April 24, 2019 9:00 a.m.

    Members Present:

    Louis Green, Chairman Tom Gray Ronald Kirk Lloyd Kiyutelluk Leland Oyoumick Elmer Seetot

    Regional Council Coordinator - Karen Deatherage

    Recorded and transcribed by:

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    1 P R O C E E D I N G S 2 3 (Nome, Alaska - 4/24/2019) 4 5 (On record) 6 7 8 CHAIRMAN GREEN: Good morning 9 everybody. We'll call this meeting back to order and

    10 go around the room and start at the Council table -- 11 well, actually I should I ask people on the phone to 12 introduce themselves so we know who's out there. 13 14 (No comments) 15 16 CHAIRMAN GREEN: People on the phone. 17 18 MR. MULLIGAN: Ben Mulligan, Fish and 19 Game. 20 21 CHAIRMAN GREEN: Thanks Ben. 22 23 Anyone one else on the phone. 24 25 (No comments) 26 27 CHAIRMAN GREEN: Okay, we'll go around 28 the room here and start with Ron. 29 30 MR. KIRK: Good morning. Ron Kirk, 31 Stebbins. 32 33 MR. SEETOT: Elmer Seetot, Jr., Brevig 34 Mission. 35 36 CHAIRMAN GREEN: Good morning. Louis 37 Green from Nome, Alaska. 38 39 MR. GRAY: Tom Gray from out back. 40 41 MR. KIYUTELLUK: Good morning. Lloyd 42 Kiyutelluk from Shishmaref. 43 44 MR. OYOUMICK: Leland Oyoumick from 45 Unalakleet. 46 47 (Pause) 48 49 MS. DEATHERAGE: This is Karen 50

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    1 Deatherage, the Office of Subsistence Management in 2 Fairbanks. Thanks. 3 4 MS. WORKER: Good morning. It's 5 Suzanne Worker from OSM. 6 7 MR. GUSSE: Good morning. Walker Gusse 8 from Bureau of Land Management. 9

    10 MS. BRAEM: Good morning. Nikki Braem, 11 Bering LandBridge National Preserve. 12 13 MS. KLOSTERMAN: Good morning. Megan 14 Klosterman from OSM. 15 16 MS. VOORHEES: Good morning. Hannah 17 Voorhees, OSM. 18 19 MR. ADKISSON: Ken Adkisson, Park 20 Service, Nome. 21 22 MS. LAVINE: Good morning. Robbin 23 LaVine with the Office of Subsistence Management. 24 25 CHAIRMAN GREEN: And Tina's over there 26 on her computer. She's busy. 27 28 REPORTER: I'm Tina, the RAC recorder. 29 30 CHAIRMAN GREEN: Thank you everybody 31 for that introduction. 32 33 So now we go to call out to the tribal 34 governments, are there any tribal governments out there 35 on the phone that have any non-agenda items to bring to 36 the table. 37 38 (No comments) 39 40 CHAIRMAN GREEN: Are there any Native 41 organizations, ANCSA Corporations that have anything to 42 bring to the table, non-agenda items. 43 44 (No comments) 45 46 CHAIRMAN GREEN: Hearing none, we'll 47 move on to our agency reports. Who's going to come 48 first here to the table. 49 50

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    1 Nikki. 2 3 How you doing Nikki. 4 5 (Laughter) 6 7 CHAIRMAN GREEN: Floor is yours. 8 9 MS. DEATHERAGE: Did somebody just join

    10 on the phone, if so could you state your name, please. 11 12 MR. PAPPAS: Yes, good morning. George 13 Pappas, OSM, Anchorage. 14 15 MS. DEATHERAGE: Thanks, George. 16 17 MR. ADKISSON: Good morning, Council 18 and Chair and Council members. Ken Adkisson, National 19 Park Service with Nikki Braem, our cultural 20 anthropologist. 21 22 I'll make this very quick since I know 23 that some of the Council members have to be thinking 24 about leaving soon. 25 26 In terms of an agency report, I'd like 27 to start by just saying that the Park Service 28 historically has taken a really serious approach to the 29 work that the RAC does. We think that's, you know, 30 highly significant and valuable and a service to the 31 local residents, and keeping with ANILCA and meeting 32 subsistence needs. Normally we have a number of our 33 Staff here that at least show up for at least some of 34 the meetings and that includes Jeanette Koelsch, our 35 Superintendent, but this week she's in Fairbanks at a 36 National Park Service, Regional Superintendent's 37 meeting. And Letty Hughes, our new Park biologist, as 38 Bill Dunker mentioned, is in Kotzebue trying to finish 39 up muskoxen composition work estimates for the Seward 40 Peninsula. So they're not able to be here. 41 42 I might say that in terms of quickly 43 what's been going on with us in terms of muskoxen 44 hunting, I think it's pretty obvious from the 45 discussions that have already come up, that the 46 populations have declined significantly, that's been 47 accompanied by significant reductions in the total 48 allowable harvest that we have and it's still a -- 49 these are still dual managed hunts. On the State side 50

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    1 they're all Tier II now, unlike the past few years 2 where we had a Tier I hunt still maintained in 22E. 3 And the bulk of the permits right now are being 4 distributed through the State Tier II system with a 5 small percentage of additional permits being 6 distributed by Federal hunt managers, basically BLM and 7 Park Service. 8 9 For the 2018/19 hunt year, as far as

    10 Bering LandBridge's activities, we issued two permits 11 for the Kuzitrin River drainages hunt and neither of 12 those were filled. So no reported harvest from that 13 hunt. We issued two permits for the 22E Federal hunt. 14 Those went to Shishmaref and those were filled. 15 Because the Unit 23 southwest Buckland/Deering area is 16 for biological and management purposes is treated as 17 part of the Seward Peninsula population of muskox as 18 opposed to say the animals further north like in the 19 Cape Thompson area, we issued two permits to Deering 20 and neither of those were filled. 21 22 We're not quite sure, we were hoping to 23 get the population estimate work done this year along 24 with the composition work and take a look at the 25 situation and perhaps adjust harvest rates or allowable 26 harvest limits. We didn't get the populations worked 27 on, as Bill mentioned, so, you know, but at least we 28 may get some comp work, which will help. 29 30 There is an interesting situation in 31 that. On the State side, they put out their 32 announcements for Tier II back late in the preceding 33 year, so by the time -- and they put out who was the 34 selected applicants that were selected for Tier II, 35 those are generally announced in February, and we often 36 don't have the latest population data and the results 37 from the survey work that we do until after that. So 38 in a sense that raised some interesting questions about 39 adjusting things and how things work. The other thing, 40 as I've said, you know, when the hunts first started 41 out, they were all Federal and over the years we've 42 shifted more and more through working through the 43 Muskoxen Cooperators Group into the State system. And 44 that can work for Federally-qualified users, there's a 45 good advantage to that in the sense that if you're a 46 State permittee, the Federal system will recognize that 47 permit and you can thus use it on either State or 48 Federal land which can really work to local villagers 49 where the bulk of the animals may be located, for 50

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    1 example, on corporation lands surrounding the village. 2 It doesn't work the reverse though, so if you have a 3 Federal permit, you're stuck to using that only on 4 Federal lands, which in often cases you have to travel 5 further to get to from your village and so forth which 6 makes it more difficult to use. 7 8 So there was an advantage to that but I 9 think we still have some really strange things that

    10 have happened through the permitting system. And where 11 we're at from the Park Service, we're at the point 12 where we use our permits to try to work out any 13 inequities that don't really work to the benefit of 14 Federal users. A rough example of this would be, say, 15 in the 23 southwest Buckland/Deering area, where maybe 16 all of t