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    Vietnams Defence Diplomacy

    Professor Carlyle A. Thayer

    Director, UNSW Defence Studies Forum

    Presentation to Asia-Pacific Seminar Series

    UNSW@ADFA

    September 12, 2005

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    Overview

    1. Strategic Defence Dimension2. Defence Diplomacy, 1990-20043. Defence Cooperation4. Procurements and Defence Industry

    Cooperation

    5.

    Defence Relations with China andthe United States

    6. Conclusion

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    Government Spending on Defence

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    2. Defence Diplomacy

    Cold War alignments USSR, Warsaw Pact states, China, Cuba

    Non-Aligned Movement Burma, Cambodia, India, Indonesia, Laos,

    Yugoslavia

    Defence relations with more than 60countries (2003)

    33 Defence Attaches accredited 22 Defence Attaches posted

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    High-Level Exchanges

    Ministerial level (MND) Chief of the General Staff (CGS) Political General Department (GPD) Logistics Department (GLD)

    Deputy Minister Service Chiefs

    Army, Navy, Air

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    A Note on Sources

    Russian Federation, Belgium, Thailand

    North Korea, Laos, Germany

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    Major Categories of Exchanges

    Chart 1 High-Level Exchanges 1990-05

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    10

    20

    30

    40

    50

    60

    MND CGS GPD GLD SC

    Type of Delegation

    NumberofVis

    its

    To Vietnam

    From Vietnam

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    Trends in High-Level Exchanges

    Chart 2 High Level Exchanges 1990-2005

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    10

    20

    30

    40

    50

    60

    1990

    1991

    1992

    1993

    1994

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    1996

    1997

    1998

    1999

    2000

    2001

    2002

    2003

    2004

    2005

    Year

    NumberofVisits

    To Vietnam From Vietnam

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    Defence and GDP Growth

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    Density of High-Level Exchanges

    44% ASEAN

    20% Traditional Allies

    17% Major Powers

    China, United States, Japan

    8% New Europe

    11 % Other Asia, Africa, Middle Eastand Latin America and Others

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    Density of Defence Exchanges

    44 - Laos 17 - India 11 - Singapore 6 - Italy Malaysia Ukraine

    36 - China 15 - Philippines 10 - Australia France Indonesia

    4 - Poland Slovak

    26 - Thailand 13 - Russia 9 - Japan8 - Cuba 3 - Algeria Belgium

    Brunei22 - Cambodia 12 - United

    States 7 - Myanmar

    N Korea

    S KoreaAngola,Belarus,Bulgaria, Congo

    R, Mozambique,

    Netherlands, UK

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    Military Diplomacy

    Accrediting of Defence Attaches Protocol visits Staff College/National Defence Instituteexchanges Goodwill visits

    External Relations DepartmentSong and Dance Ensemble

    Naval ship visits

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    Naval Ship Visits, 1990-2005

    7 India 6 Australia 5 France 5 United Kingdom 4 Thailand 3 South Korea 3 United States 2 Italy

    2 Malaysia 2 Russia 1 Canada 1 China 1 Indonesia 1 Japan 1 New Zealand

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    Memorandum of Understanding

    Annual work plans exchange of visits, training, strategic dialogue, etc.

    Address specific bilateral issues Border security (land and maritime) MIA repatriation; Cam Ranh Bay

    Combined military activities Medical research Search and Rescue Coordinated naval patrols

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    Defence Cooperation Agreements

    Laos special solidarity andcomprehensive cooperation

    internal security,border control, MIAs China border security

    Military Region commanders Thailand maritime security Cambodia border security, MIAs

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    Defence Cooperation Agreements

    India (1994 and 2000)

    Russia (October 1998) Australia post-1999 United States (October 1996) Other DCAs

    Bulgaria, Belgium, South Korea andGermany

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    4. Procurement and

    Defence Industry Cooperation

    Spare Parts Storage Repair and Maintenance Refurbishment and Upgrading Education and Training Research and Development National Defence Industry cooperation Acquisition of new capabilities

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    Sales and Servicing Contracts

    Russian Federation (1994, 1998, 2003)Ukraine (2002)India (2002)Europe - Bulgaria, Czech, Finland,

    Poland

    ASEAN States SingaporeOther Suppliers Israel, North Korea

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    Government Defence Expenditure

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    Air Force Modernization

    Upgrade and modernise MiG-21and Su-22fighter/ground attack aircraft

    Su-30 preferred air superiority fighterFunding a major constraintMay opt for less expensive Su-22

    Upgrade of Su-27s and Su-30s with beyondvisual range air-to-air missiles

    Military communications satellite?

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    Czech L-39C Trainers

    Nine purchased in 1992 and ten more in 2003

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    Su-22 M4Fitter

    Upgraded1994-98 in

    Russia and

    2005 inUkraine

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    10-12 Su-27s purchased in 1994

    Su-27 UBK Flanker

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    MiG-21FishbedUpgrades

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    4 Su-30 MKKsFulcrums 2003

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    PZL M-28 Skytruck

    Tenordered

    from

    Polandin 2003

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    PZL SwidnikW-3 SAR

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    Air Defence

    S-300PMU1

    2003

    (SA-10Grumble)

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    Naval Modernisation

    Protect offshore oil and gas claims Anti-shipping capability

    Match extended naval reach in South ChinaSea by other claimant countries

    Anti-submarine warfareCounter threat of Chinese submarines

    Mines counter-measures capability

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    Deterrence

    capability inSouth China

    Sea

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    TarantulClass (Type 1241)

    4 acquiredfrom

    Russia in

    1996-98

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    Tarantul3 Corvette

    TwoMolnya

    1241.8 FAC (M)

    delivered in 2005,

    eight to be

    assembled in

    Vietnam

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    Anti-shipping Capability

    Styx Missile

    Sunburn

    missile

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    BPS 500 Fast Attack Craft (M)

    2 acquired1998. BPS

    500 now

    under

    production

    in Vietnam

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    KBO 2000 Corvette

    Project 2100 Recently Cancelled

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    Yugo-Class Midget Submarine

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    Land Force Modernisation

    Main Battle TanksFinland 70 (T-54 and T-55)

    Poland (150 T-72)

    Multiple Rocket Launch SystemCzech

    Upgrade U.S. era M113 APCsSingapore?

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    T-54/55 Main Battle Tank

    850 T-54-55 and 350 Chinese Type-59 Main Battle Tanks

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    Grad Multiple Rocket Launcher

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    Short Range Ballistic Missiles?

    Scud C ballistic missileReportedly sold by

    North Korea

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    Sea

    Control

    Singapore

    Strategic

    Strike

    Seize

    Territory

    South-East Asia: Developing Military Capability to 2015

    Legend: PoorFair

    GoodVery Good

    Serious shortcomings in ability to meet roles and tasks.Can meet some roles and tasks but has some shortcomings.Can meet most roles and tasks at a basic level.Can meet all roles and tasks comprehensively.

    2015 Changing colour shows development from 2003 through to 2015.2003

    Defend

    TerritoryConstabulary

    Malaysia

    ThailandIndonesia

    Philippines

    Vietnam

    Burma

    BruneiCambodia

    Laos

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    5. Defence Relations with China

    and the United States China

    Normalisation of diplomatic relations (1991)

    Long-term Cooperative Framework (1999)

    looking to the future, boosting good neighborlyfriendship and exploring all-around collaboration

    U.S. Recovery of Missing-in-Action (MIA) remainsNormalisation of diplomatic relations (1995) Visit by Prime Minister to U.S. (2005)

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    Defence Relations with China

    First round of consultations on defensivesecurity (Beijing, April 2005)

    Chinese Commission for Science,Technology and National Defence Industrydelegation visits Hanoi (July)

    General Phung Quang Thanh, CGS, visitsBeijing (July)

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    Ministerial Exchange Visits

    Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, Hanoi, March2000 and Defence Minister Pham Van Tra, Washington,

    November 2003

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    U.S. Naval Port Visits

    USS Curtis

    Wilbur,Da Nang,

    July 2004

    USS Gary,

    Saigon, March

    2005

    USS Vandegrift,

    Saigon,

    November 2003

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    Defence Relations with the U.S.

    15th Asia-Pacific Military Medicine Conferenceheld in Hanoi co-sponsored by Vietnam andthe U.S. (May 2005)

    Assistant Secretary of Defense forInternational Security Affairs, Peter Rodman,

    visits Hanoi (June)

    Prime Minister Phan Van Khai visitsWashington, D.C. and meets with PresidentGeorge Bush ( June 21)

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    6. Conclusion

    Bringing the Military Back In Military as important domestic political actor Potential regional role Priority on naval and air modernisation

    South China Sea contingencies Rise of China

    balancing bandwagoning hierarchy norm building and regional identity

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    Vietnams Defence Diplomacy

    Discussion

    Questions and Answers

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    Military Capability

    Maritime Capabilities Maritime Patrol - 48 assorted vessels Anti-Surface Warfare - 13 ships with SSMs Maritime Land Strike - no real capability Anti-Submarine Warfare - no real capability Maritime Air Defence - no ability to coordinate Amphibious Lodgment/Marine Forces Mine Warfare - 10 assorted vessels

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    Military Capability

    Land CapabilitiesInfantry Forces - 58 Inf DivisionsCombined Arms Ground Forces

    3 Mech Inf and 10 Armoured Div, 10 ArtyBde,

    Special ForcesLand Force C3I(Command, Control,

    Communications and Intelligence)Reserves

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    Military Capability

    Air Capabilities

    Air Defence - MiG-21, SA-2/3 SAMsAA-2/8/10 air to air missiles

    Long Range Strike - Su-27, Su-30Close Air Support - Su-22M seriesTransport - An-2, An-26, Yak-40

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    Military Capability

    Other CapabilitiesChemical and Biological

    suspected Saren and mustard gas (1991) Scud B/C Short Range Ballistic Missiles

    Information or Knowledge Warfare SIGINTELINT

    Radiological and Nuclear (none)