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Convergence - Trkic folks in European Milieu

Osman KaratayIn Search of the Lost Tribe:The Origins and Making of the Croation NationKaraM, orum, 2003, 975-6467-07-XGoogle Books Copyright 2003 by KaraM Aratrma ve Yaynclk

Posting Foreword

The work of Dr. Osman Karatay stands apart from the mass of post-WWI works that created fresh genesis legends for the Balkan states. The polarized image outlined fairly well the checkered history, involved a vast range of sources, and had only one main drawback, it filtered in only a narrow spectrum of colors. The color-deficient image blocks the hurtful shine of the bright and allows to bring to contrast the obscure. This technique is widely used in the cloistered biological labs and in the open ranges of the hyped indoctrination. Broadly, science is objective and color-blind, but humanities suffer the mental maladies bearing on the humans, and in some instances color-blindness is an apostate vice. Since the hogwash of the ensconced histories is fairly obvious, Dr. Osman Karatay undertook a fresh look at the developments prior to the 10th century, using the shuned methods of open mind and critical thinking. It is unavoidable that a new method brings new results, and digging in restricted places uncovers evidence that bridges gaps left open by the genesis mythology.A reader will encounter too many insights to name. Among the most interesting are: reference to the work on the language of Guties, a controversial Mesopotamian horse nomadic tribe of the 3rd millennium BC classed between Trkic and we don't have a clue. Sarmats, Bashkort Yurmati, and Hungarian Gyarmats are one and the same, allophones of different times. New evidence that Hungarians were Onogurs. Ugor/Ugr is a illusionary category. White Croats and White Ours were the same people. Saragurs are White Ours, later Horvats Horvats are named after Kurbat, the corollary is that Horvats are not descendents of the Kangar tribe - Harvat - Croat.The achievement of Dr. Osman Karatay is not only in sorting out the most obscure puzzles of the past, but in bringing them up, in breaching the iron wall separating patriotic mythological speculations from reality. A reader will discover plenty of other nonconformist insights, some of them may be disputed, some rejected. That is a normal process of science. Abnormal is abstention from the deliberating process, mythmaking, and obfuscation.Page numbers are shown at the end of the page. Posting notes and explanations, added to the text of the author are shown in(blue italics)in parentheses and inblue boxes, or highlighted byblue headers. Minor editorial corrections were made to use standard English terminology and reduce grammatical ambiguity. An academic monograph in humanities has to follow few rules that prevent publication of some factual, but offensive background and information not greeted by the peer reviewers. At times, the objective understanding of that offensive background is necessary to appreciate the logics and development of the events. The obscurer is the subject, and the more unbalanced historiography debased it, the more that background is left out of the limelight. The excessive volume of the posting notes is predicated by the tactful bounds of that part of the study. Choice between spelling Kubrat and Kurbat in all modern interpretations is arbitrary. For consistency, the posting comments use the form Kurbat, consistentwith other postings on this site, while the author's form has been preserved in the author's text.




Part IThe Iranic, Germanic and Slavic Theories9

Part IIBulgaric, Oguric and Other Origins of the Actors19

Part IIIPost-Hunnic Spectacle of Eastern Europe31

Part IVThe Age of Avar Supremacy in the Western Steppes40

Part VThe Years of Constant Rebellions Against the Avars54

Part VIThe Coming of the Croats to the Balkans65

Part VIIWho Were the First Croats?80

Part VIIIThe Desertion of Kuber Khan and Roots of the Serbian State97

Part IXOrigins of the Bosnian State and the Royal Kotroman Family111





FOREWORDBelieving that,- No genocide has resulted in extermination of any people, but those applying genocide have taken their place in the most outrageous pages of history,- No pressure has resulted in extermination of any will of people, but all tyrannical rules and practices have always been damned,- No injustice has provided any permanent interest to those committing it, and remained without punishment, but justice has ever became the eventual winner,- No ban on any idea has helped prevent that idea from gaining popularity, but people always have tended to think how they want,- No control over consciousness of people has led to any profitable end, but usually resulted in loss of control over masses, and,- No nationality can be imposed on any individual, but people themselves choose their communal identity, including their nationality, according to their personal views,- No other regime, but democracy (for everybody) is the best for all humanity, and will be globally preferred in the very near future,1I wrote this book, a study on an unsolved problem of the history of the early Middle Ages. This book proposes how the Croatian nation appeared about one and half a millenium ago, and defines the cast of this process as some Turks. I do never claim that todays Croats are of Turkic origin, or the Turks realized this task. The initiators only, whose activities eventually paved the way for making the Croatian nationality, were Turks in origin.A Turkish version of this book was published in the year 2000; this book is, however, a totally new one, and not a translation of the Turkish book.I have to express my gratitude to hundreds of my friends, who helped me during the preparation of both the Turkish and English editions. Staff of the library of the Turkish Historical Society found and brought patiently all the books and articles that I wanted. Prof. Emil Hersak of Zagreb brought me many valuable books, and Prof. Alemko Gluhak, also of Zagreb, kindly sent his book. Prof. Tufik Bumazovic of Sarajevo sent me many precious books on Bosnian history. Prof. Plamen Tzvetkov of Sofia exhibited great patience in replying my numerous questions about wider dimensions of the Proto-Bulgar entity. Im also grateful to Mr. Mustafa Gkgz, bibliomaniac of orum, for his help during the edition of this book. And Mr. Blent Kene, news director of the Turkish Daily News, supported me in all phases of this study."orum, August 30, 20032INTRODUCTIONIt i a factual fact that historians and historiography have up to this day dealt mostly with nations. This is not related to the so-called rise of nationalism after the so-called French Revolution, and had a similar dose in previous, even ancient ages, too. Ethnic definition started with self-definition compared to the other (we and they), as in the basic examples Helen/Roman - Barbarian, Arab - Adjem (Persian, i.e. non-Arab), Trk - Tat (Persian, i.e. non-Turk), etc.After dividing humanity into two, people realized that there were many kinds of the others, all calling themselves as we, and thus there simply started ethnic division. Classification of those wes or others coincided with searches for their origins, and so, different traditions trying to explain ethnic roots appeared. Certainly, Japhethic traditions gained more popularity than individual tribal or national myths.Ethnic studies, or indeed studies in ethnic origins never ceased, and were accelerated after the collapse of socialism, which gifted a micro-nationalism developing in a parallel way to the globalization. Main theme in these studies is to show how we are different from the others at local level, or for insiders, and to understand why they are different from the others in international level, or for outsiders. Thus, for instance, Serbian and Croatian intellectuals, in great majority, tried to make clear how it was impossible for them to live together with the other due to the ethnic differences; while intellectuals of the third parts, regardless of their sympathy to any side, tried to understand why these two people were in so antagonistic to each other. Similarly, Bosniac scholars, being mostly interested in the glory of the Ottoman time during the both Yugoslavias, started to tend to the pre-Ottoman Bosnia, of course, to show that they were not Serbs or Croats.3Being an outsider, who lived in Bosnia for three years, and traveled in the other ex-Yugoslav countries, I found myself in the mid of hard debates. A Bosniac said me: We came here (to the Balkans) in the first wave. The Serbs and Croats came later, in the second wave. A Serb tried to convince me that the Bosniacs were nobody else than the islamized/turkified Serbs, as the Muslims of Sandjak (a region of Serbia, where Muslims in majority). And a Croatian enlightened told me that the Medieval Bosnian state had been just one of the states of the Croats in Medieval.During the preparation of my monograph of Kosovo, which was published in 1998 (Kosova Kanl Ova Kosovo the Bloody Plain), I made basic readings on the Slavicization of the Balkans, as well as Medieval history of the region. I must confess how this topic, especially, and interestingly, the Croatian entity, was attractive for me.4When I first started readings in Proto-Bulgar history, I did not miss the phonetic resemblance between some versions of the name Kubrat/Kuvrat, khan of Great Bulgaria, like Krobatos of Theophanes the Confessor (Crobatus in its Latin translation by Anastasius), and Croat, name of the northwestern Balkan people (Fr. Croate, Ger. Kroate, Rus. ). Original forms of the both words also do not go far from each other:Kuvratvs.Horvat. I noted this to return later, but a footnote in the Byzantine History of G. Ostrogors